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Confronting Evil · Clay & Buck Recommendations

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  Speaker 1: What I write about in Confronting Evil is collective evil,
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  Speaker 1: where you have fifteen people that we spotlight inside the
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  Speaker 1: book that achieved enormous power, and they did so in
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  Speaker 1: a variety of ways. But everyone knew they were evil.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like a debate about it. And yet they
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  Speaker 1: were able in their situations. The Ayahtola and Iran Hitler
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  Speaker 1: in Germany, Stalin and Putin in Russia. They were able
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  Speaker 1: to get to a position where they killed millions and
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  Speaker 1: millions of people untold suffering. That was my fascination. Now
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  Speaker 1: I've covered a lot of stories of my fifty years
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  Speaker 1: in journalism and a lot of heinous serial killers. I
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  Speaker 1: chased Ted Bundy from coast to coast right he was
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  Speaker 1: one of the worst ever. And my opinion on it
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  Speaker 1: is very simple. These are psychotic people. They're psychopaths, and
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  Speaker 1: they will commit as much damage as they can. They
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  Speaker 1: are evil, and society is an obligation to punish them
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  Speaker 1: as much as possible. But it's not at the level
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  Speaker 1: of what I'm writing about in my upcoming book.