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Out of Bounds W/ Dr. Mike "Quick" Outten, Wk #9 NFL 2026 · Bears Banter Talk Show

0:29
SPEAKER_00: Man, you know, hey, we still still getting it on, getting it on, getting it on.
0:35
SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Out of Bounds with Dr.
0:37
SPEAKER_00: Quick.
0:38
SPEAKER_00: Of course.
0:39
SPEAKER_00: I'm Dr.
0:40
SPEAKER_00: Quick, my executive producer, but now Muhammad Nutty.
0:43
SPEAKER_00: What's up, team?
0:44
SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
0:46
SPEAKER_00: What's up, Q?
0:47
SPEAKER_00: Man, we got a lot to talk about as usual.
0:50
SPEAKER_00: You know, we got a lot to talk about.
0:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we got to start off early.
0:54
SPEAKER_00: Hey, if you're out there, make sure you turn your hat to the back so we can get into it.
1:00
SPEAKER_00: Man, we always start off with the Bears and the Bears recap.
1:05
SPEAKER_00: Bears beat the Buccaneers 27 to 24.
1:08
SPEAKER_00: That's probably the ugliest game that we've had in a very long time around here in Chicago.
1:12
SPEAKER_00: But it was one that we needed because that was a game that really challenged us and challenged who we were as a team.
1:20
SPEAKER_00: And you know, I said it yesterday on Bears Banner.
1:24
SPEAKER_00: That was a signature win for us because we have not been challenged all year.
1:29
SPEAKER_00: Most of our games have been dominant blowouts and things of that nature.
1:35
SPEAKER_00: So we needed this game to actually account for some of the stakes that we some of the mistakes that we you know had and some of the things that we're going to need in the playoffs in order to potentially win a Super Bowl.
1:50
SPEAKER_00: So you know, Caleb throws four interceptions, and normally when a team has five turnovers, it's normally a blowout for the other team.
2:00
SPEAKER_00: But you know what rhymes with Bucks sucks.
2:04
SPEAKER_00: So the Bucks sucks.
2:05
SPEAKER_00: They offense sucks.
2:07
SPEAKER_00: They only can run the ball, they couldn't throw a pass.
2:10
SPEAKER_00: Baker Mayfield is seeing ghosts right now because the Bears was all in his doo-doo the other day, and the man just could not get it done.
2:19
SPEAKER_00: So the Bears, let's see, Caleb had 22 for 37 attempts, 279 yards.
2:25
SPEAKER_00: So he still almost threw for 300, even though he threw for four receptions.
2:29
SPEAKER_00: Uh he had what two touchdowns to Rome and to uh to uh Luther Burton.
2:36
SPEAKER_00: What was interesting, interesting on the Rome touchdown was that if you saw the video, Rome dedicated his touchdown to Cole Komet.
2:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:47
SPEAKER_00: He said, Cole, we love you, boy.
2:48
SPEAKER_00: We told you we love you.
2:49
SPEAKER_00: And that's that's a teammate.
2:52
SPEAKER_00: You know, that I've said all the time that the Bears play together and they play for and with each other.
2:59
SPEAKER_00: So the other thing that uh his his percentage went down this week, 59, 61 passer rating, man.
3:08
SPEAKER_00: Look like a rookie for his first time ever being in the game.
3:12
SPEAKER_00: What's really concerning is Swift only had 12 carries, 31 yards.
3:17
SPEAKER_00: We did not run the football.
3:19
SPEAKER_00: Ben said that was not a part of the game plan.
3:23
SPEAKER_00: So we had to take it for what it's worth, you know.
3:26
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, uh, yeah, you know, and then we had uh Burton has Burton has seven catches for 97 yards, which is three away from a butt.
3:39
SPEAKER_00: So Dunze had four catches, 60 yards.
3:42
SPEAKER_00: So overall, you know, them first two drives, man, they came out looking like gangbusters, right?
3:48
SPEAKER_00: It was like, man, this team here is just so dominant against the Bucks.
3:54
SPEAKER_00: The Bucks was the number one defense at the time when we played them.
3:58
SPEAKER_00: Knew it was gonna be challenging, but them first couple drives, man, it looked like we we we got something.
4:06
SPEAKER_00: Just just let's just say put it like that.
4:09
SPEAKER_00: Um we just had to put it together.
4:12
SPEAKER_00: And what's very interesting is this defense is who won this game.
4:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, been I've been very critical of uh Jalen Johnson, and he came through with a touchdown interception for a touchdown, what we call a pick six, first of the year.
4:34
SPEAKER_00: And so the Bears have this bye week.
4:40
SPEAKER_00: What's interesting now is that we are starting to get mostly everybody that's injured back now.
4:49
SPEAKER_00: So this team, we've been dominant without a lot of key pieces, but now let's see where we are when everybody starts to return.
5:00
SPEAKER_00: Dio's supposed to return, Muhammad's supposed to return, uh Monangas return.
5:08
SPEAKER_00: So with those three critical pieces, let's see where we are now.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: And all of this starts with the NFL trade deadline was today.
5:20
SPEAKER_00: Bears didn't make any moves at the trade deadline, but we got the most critical piece that we needed about two weeks ago in Jeffrey Simmons.
5:31
SPEAKER_00: And you can see the impact of that trade already.
5:36
SPEAKER_00: Everybody's flying around the ball.
5:38
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you look at the game, he's been double and triple team, which allows everybody else to fly around and make plays.
5:47
SPEAKER_00: Case in point.
5:48
SPEAKER_00: You look at Devin Bush now.
5:50
SPEAKER_00: Devin Bush is is playing out of his mind because he doesn't have to worry about linemen coming to scoop block him or block him at all because Jeffrey Simmons is taking up that block.
6:02
SPEAKER_00: Now, you saw that one time they tried to block him man to man, right?
6:06
SPEAKER_00: That was the second.
6:07
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
6:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you you really can't block him man to man because if you do, something bad is going to happen.
6:15
SPEAKER_00: You know, he takes up a lot of space out there, he takes up a lot of blocks, and now Montez Swift looks like he's on PDs all over again.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
6:26
SPEAKER_00: Because he he he's out there bawling, Booker's out there bawling, Grady Jarrett's out there bawling.
6:34
SPEAKER_00: I mean, so just implementing that one piece, and I know everybody, oh, we need to get Khalil Mack.
6:42
SPEAKER_00: No, we don't because before Dio got hurt, Dio was balling, right?
6:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and now Booker, Austin Booker is your rotational player at defensive end who eventually will be the starter in the next year or two.
7:00
SPEAKER_00: I mean, what else do you want?
7:02
SPEAKER_00: We didn't need Khalil Mack because we got it now.
7:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree with you.
7:07
SPEAKER_01: Uh I'll jump in right there on the Khalil Mack thing.
7:11
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
7:12
SPEAKER_01: It this is the reason why fans are fans and GMs are GMs.
7:16
SPEAKER_01: You you know what?
7:18
SPEAKER_01: He just doesn't swing at this Jeffrey Simmons thing out of just waking up one morning when the trade line deadline and say, Hey, I think I'll try to get Jeffrey Simmons.
7:27
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't happen like that.
7:29
SPEAKER_01: He already been playing this, right?
7:31
SPEAKER_01: It's a mountain of you can execute it.
7:33
SPEAKER_01: He got rid of Javon Dexter, and all all us who pay attention was like when he got up his sleeve, right?
7:40
SPEAKER_01: We we know it's like okay, but you know, some of us, because we don't know what the plans are, we say, Okay, maybe he's looking at uh the uh the rookie they got, he's gonna be a little bit more productive.
7:51
SPEAKER_01: I'm about to just say he was already making space for it.
7:54
SPEAKER_01: He just wanted to uh wait till that time come where he could, you know, make that pitch.
7:59
SPEAKER_01: But like I said, that's why GMs are GMs and fans are fans because I always laugh and say, hey, if you listen to fans, they have you cut the whole team out of every game and fire all the management, the coaching staff, regardless of what contracts are, and you'll be able to sign everybody like you playing Madden game, but it don't work like that in real life.
8:18
SPEAKER_01: But as far as the game on Monday, uh not Monday, yeah, it was Monday, Sunday, Sunday night.
8:24
SPEAKER_01: Wow, days moving out, yeah.
8:25
SPEAKER_01: Sunday night, yeah.
8:26
SPEAKER_01: Sunday night.
8:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you know, it was a real good game as far as the way it started out, but you know, it was a good game overall.
8:34
SPEAKER_01: You know, it might not as a fan of the Bears, you know, uh go the way you thought it was gonna go because it looked so dominant at the beginning.
8:42
SPEAKER_01: But if you could deal with adversity and still find a way to win, then that's how you know if your team is tough, right?
8:51
SPEAKER_01: Because we watched a team two years ago, you know, some of the same players and a whole lot of new players.
8:58
SPEAKER_01: Let any adversity happen.
8:59
SPEAKER_01: You had a false star, man.
9:00
SPEAKER_01: You don't end up hiding the pond, right?
9:02
SPEAKER_01: Because things would just fall apart.
9:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's it.
9:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and so pose has been manipulating this roster for a very long time.
9:16
SPEAKER_00: We had a conversation the other day and why Justin Fields is not here.
9:22
SPEAKER_00: Uh, as far as Pose knew after a certain time that Justin Fields wasn't gonna be the quarterback here.
9:29
SPEAKER_00: If you remember, he traded that number one pick to Carolina for their number one pick next year.
9:37
SPEAKER_00: And he took their wide receiver, he took DJ Moore, the only weapon they really had, and said, I'll trade you this number one pick for your number one pick next year and DJ Moore.
9:49
SPEAKER_00: And so he knew that there was a possibility that they'll be in number one or number two in the draft the next year, right?
9:58
SPEAKER_00: And so, in doing that, that was the same year, like you said, Caleb Williams won the Heisman, and they have been following him.
10:07
SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, I posted something on Facebook the other day.
10:10
SPEAKER_00: Matter of fact, we had 27,000 views on that post about Caleb Williams and Justin Fields.
10:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh, if if Justin would have got the resources that Caleb got, where would we be?
10:22
SPEAKER_00: 27,000 people looked at that post.
10:26
SPEAKER_01: That's a lot of people, but it's hey, and let me say one thing quick, real quick.
10:30
SPEAKER_01: Sunday in Sunday game in Kansas City, Dave brought Justin Fields in for a quarterback sneak.
10:39
SPEAKER_01: He fumbled.
10:41
SPEAKER_01: I love Justin Fields, but one of the things I criticize him for constantly is fumbling.
10:48
SPEAKER_01: He has almost nearly fumbled in every game he appeared in.
10:53
SPEAKER_01: With that fumble, he has to be about somewhere between 57 and 59 fumbles.
11:01
SPEAKER_01: He's only played in maybe 61 games.
11:04
SPEAKER_01: Now, I know somebody's gonna look at loss fumbles and say, Oh, he's only lost the ball about 14 times, but all those fumbles on the ground result in negative plays, longer downs and distance, etc.
11:17
SPEAKER_01: You should not be whatever six years in the league, and you can't even take a quarterback sneak without fumbling it, you know.
11:23
SPEAKER_01: But anyway, quick, that was it.
11:24
SPEAKER_01: That's why I wanted to share that.
11:26
SPEAKER_01: Uh I already know who I would have taken.
11:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, he played for that one play, and and and I was like, man, it must be in the fourth quarter because he he's got a history of fumbling in the fourth quarter, and so right, uh man, but right now, hey, the Bears are in first place, seven and two, leading it leading the best conference in the NFL right now, the NFC North.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: I believe that all four people are going to make the playoffs, uh maybe not Minnesota, not sold on Minnesota.
11:56
SPEAKER_00: They're not good.
11:57
SPEAKER_00: You saw last night, they they just brought in uh who is that Kirk Cousins?
12:02
SPEAKER_00: They just brought him in agent ever.
12:05
SPEAKER_01: Man, he got the best agent ever, man.
12:07
SPEAKER_01: That man keeps a job.
12:13
SPEAKER_01: Y'all movies, hire Kirk Cousins agent.
12:17
SPEAKER_00: Man, that man keeps a job, man.
12:20
SPEAKER_00: He he he like a uh Tyler Perry actor, man.
12:23
SPEAKER_00: He just go in every other different movie and just keep getting paid.
12:28
SPEAKER_01: Man, that man keeps a job, but he gets paid, he getting paid by three teams right now.
12:34
SPEAKER_01: Man, hey, Minnesota's still paying on money, right?
12:36
SPEAKER_01: Well, Minnesota money now, Atlanta paying on money, and the Raiders uh still paying him.
12:43
SPEAKER_01: So he's right now, he's getting paid by three teams.
12:47
SPEAKER_01: Man, they got the best agent.
12:49
SPEAKER_00: Man, I know man.
12:51
SPEAKER_00: I I need to call up his agent and see what's happening.
12:53
SPEAKER_00: I'll be like, hey man, I got this uh podcast I want to talk to you about.
12:58
SPEAKER_00: Maybe we can get this thing worldwide, you know what I'm saying?
13:02
SPEAKER_00: Maybe we can get it out of there.
13:04
SPEAKER_00: But hey, good thing that like I said, the bears are coming off the bye week, they'll be they'll be going into the bye week, not coming off, but we get some major factors back.
13:12
SPEAKER_00: That's why the bears didn't make a move in the in the um by the trade deadline, like I said, and we're still waiting on Kobe Bryant to come back, yeah.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: And so once Kobe Bryant comes back, we'll be able to move Cam Lewis back to corner, inside, outside, corner, and we'll be able to do some things that we aren't able to do right now because our defensive backfield is depleted, so we had to move him to safety, and he's been playing well, he's been hitting everybody, everything that moves.
13:41
SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, you know, we talked about the trade deadline a little bit.
13:45
SPEAKER_00: Uh, couple pickups, nothing really major.
13:47
SPEAKER_00: I did see Downs get picked up today from uh he got picked up, he was in Indianapolis.
13:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, that was a that was a good pickup for the and hey Jacksonville been working.
13:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Jacksonville.
14:01
SPEAKER_01: Uh they gave they they they throwing the guntler down because they gave up quite a few picks today to uh acquire matter of fact, two players, I believe.
14:12
SPEAKER_01: Um I think they gave up a first.
14:15
SPEAKER_01: I can't remember who the player was.
14:16
SPEAKER_01: They gave up a first, and I think a third, and then they gave up uh I think a fourth or fifth, whatever it was, for another player, right?
14:26
SPEAKER_01: So they uh they willing and dealing.
14:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and right now, I mean, you know, the the AFC with Baltimore being down, you know, that works out for them.
14:39
SPEAKER_00: But uh surprisingly, man, the Steelers keep winning.
14:44
SPEAKER_00: The Stillers keep winning.
14:46
SPEAKER_00: Uh the Browns lost this week, but the Browns is still in it some kind of way.
14:51
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
14:53
SPEAKER_00: What the I don't know what's going on, but they still in it.
14:56
SPEAKER_00: Um the Rams got Miles Garrett back, so you know, be careful with the Rams.
15:02
SPEAKER_00: And and so, but Puka Nakua's out.
15:06
SPEAKER_00: Now you got Puka Nakua out, Devontae Adams out.
15:09
SPEAKER_00: You know, I almost gave Sean McVay the Rudy Pooh award because that game was kind of in hand, and he got Puka Nakua hurt.
15:18
SPEAKER_00: I think Puka Puka's out for a couple weeks now with a knee injury.
15:24
SPEAKER_00: So Sean McVay, you know.
15:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's been battling some injuries all year.
15:30
SPEAKER_01: So you get late in the game like that, just take take your star plans out.
15:35
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
15:35
SPEAKER_01: Talking about that Green Bay did the same thing, yeah.
15:38
SPEAKER_01: They was down to the last two minutes of the game, up by whatever it was, like 30 points or whatever.
15:44
SPEAKER_01: They still throwing bombs and showing off, right?
15:46
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's that's that's the only thing they got on the offense.
15:49
SPEAKER_00: No, that's that's it.
15:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's all and uh Jacobs is hurt again with a uh broke thumb.
15:55
SPEAKER_00: So I mean that didn't help them because they can't run the ball no way, so it didn't even matter.
16:00
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, but I want to talk about uh I'm not sure if you were able to get that play from the Notre Dame Miami game.
16:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I have it, I have it.
16:10
SPEAKER_00: All right, yeah.
16:11
SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna go we're gonna go to the blow the whistle segment of the of the show.
16:15
SPEAKER_00: All right, we blew the whistle, we're going to the blow the blow the whistles, too short, right?
16:25
SPEAKER_00: So this is the play that's been showed all over the country.
16:28
SPEAKER_00: Uh and that you you ask 50% of the fans, they say, Oh, he caught the ball.
16:33
SPEAKER_00: You ask the other 50%, he didn't catch the ball, you know.
16:36
SPEAKER_00: So on the blow the whistle segment, this is a segment where most of you guys know that I am a football referee.
16:45
SPEAKER_00: So we'll break this play down and show you why this was called a no catch.
16:51
SPEAKER_01: Okay, let me know when you want me to pause.
16:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let it go.
16:54
SPEAKER_00: Let it go.
16:59
SPEAKER_03: Touchdown.
17:01
SPEAKER_03: What an effort, and what a throw from Mensa.
17:04
SPEAKER_00: Let's see if they show the other angle.
17:07
SPEAKER_00: Okay, the hurdle.
17:09
SPEAKER_01: Hey, whenever you get up and walk away, you ain't got the ball, you ain't throw it down.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: I already stopped.
17:14
SPEAKER_03: very similar to the touchdown that we saw Faison Make catches gets one foot down, clean, maintains.
17:24
SPEAKER_00: The ball, the ball moves at that.
17:28
SPEAKER_00: If you could rewind that just a little bit.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
17:33
SPEAKER_00: So as he comes to the ground, the ball moves.
17:38
SPEAKER_00: Right.
17:39
SPEAKER_00: So one thing, the definition of a catch is voluntary control and release.
17:45
SPEAKER_00: So you have to have control of the football.
17:47
SPEAKER_00: If that football moves at any instant, you do not have control of that football.
17:53
SPEAKER_00: Right?
17:54
SPEAKER_00: Go a little bit further.
17:56
SPEAKER_00: Okay, let me catches it, gets one foot.
18:00
SPEAKER_00: Right there.
18:01
SPEAKER_00: Right?
18:01
SPEAKER_00: The ball is moving at that particular point.
18:05
SPEAKER_00: Right.
18:05
SPEAKER_00: So now you have to regain possession of the ball.
18:10
SPEAKER_00: And so, like I said, voluntary control and release.
18:14
SPEAKER_00: Now, how does the ball come out?
18:17
SPEAKER_00: Go ahead and go ahead and run the rest of it.
18:22
SPEAKER_03: Maintains the ball through the catch to the ground.
18:26
SPEAKER_03: Touchdown, Miami.
18:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so you you cannot listen to the analyst in these plays because the ball moves then and he does not re-establish his foot matched up on a safe back down on the ground in the field of play.
18:43
SPEAKER_00: You can you can stop it.
18:45
SPEAKER_00: So he has to have him on that route.
18:49
SPEAKER_00: Once the ball, once he he goes, he has the ball for a second.
18:54
SPEAKER_00: Then as he's trying to gather the ball and gather himself, the ball moves.
18:59
SPEAKER_00: Once the ball moved, he has to regain and touch back inbounds.
19:05
SPEAKER_00: His foot is in the air once he gains possession of the ball.
19:10
SPEAKER_00: Then the ball comes out again.
19:12
SPEAKER_00: So this is not the NFL where you have to survive the catch, survive a player, survive the ground.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, but you do have to still maintain possession of the ball.
19:27
SPEAKER_00: Once again, voluntary control and release.
19:32
SPEAKER_00: That means that you have firm possession of the ball, you controlled it and released it.
19:38
SPEAKER_00: That was not control of the ball because the ball moved.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: All right, if you had any questions, put in the chat, I'll answer it, and that's what it is.
19:50
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, you know what, quick, thanks for the explanation because you know uh what I can see when I see people commenting on their one, they have a perception of they parley got messed up.
20:08
SPEAKER_01: Okay, he's on my fantasy team.
20:11
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm saying different things of why they're arguing.
20:13
SPEAKER_01: It ain't really sometime about the play, they're upset about the other things.
20:18
SPEAKER_01: And as many times this can happen to play like this, I am confused why people don't realize this is not a catch.
20:25
SPEAKER_01: It's not like it's a rare moment.
20:27
SPEAKER_01: We just hit a similar situation last week in the NFL, and people were saying the same thing.
20:33
SPEAKER_01: So after a while, you should realize what they what is a catch.
20:36
SPEAKER_01: You may not know all the language as an observer or watcher of sports, but you should know uh on the NFL, and maybe a little bit more, you may be a little foggy on the college, right?
20:47
SPEAKER_01: Because you know, the one foot rule, and you know, you may not know all the, but I don't know.
20:51
SPEAKER_01: I I don't see how people thought that was a catch, you know, based off what I've been saying in the in the film, right?
20:56
SPEAKER_00: And then this play goes to replay, right?
21:00
SPEAKER_00: Yes, so so now it goes to replay, where you have two people up there that are looking at this play, slowing it down, getting it from every angle they can, and it comes back, no catch, and people are still, no, no, man, they don't know what they're doing, man.
21:20
SPEAKER_00: They don't know what they're talking about.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: You have guys that are sitting up there with a rule book, right?
21:26
SPEAKER_00: And different monitors, right?
21:29
SPEAKER_00: Watching games and all that, they're sitting there watching that particular game, and they're saying, no, that that's not a catch, right?
21:38
SPEAKER_00: So, no matter how you feel about the actual game, like you said, your parlay, your your fantasy, and all of that, you cannot circumvent the rule.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: So that that's basically what it is.
21:55
SPEAKER_00: And and believe me, on that play, they got buzzed.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: To stop the game, so they could take a look at this particular play to see if it was a catch or not.
22:07
SPEAKER_00: It was ruled and no catch on the field.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: Right?
22:12
SPEAKER_00: And it was like it's a touchdown.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: No, no catch.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: And so, like I said, people just want to argue sometimes to argue because I mean if you want to argue that much, man, take the class and become a referee.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: You can really see what work goes into it, man.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: We gotta take a you gotta watch videos, you gotta take a test, you gotta be in these meetings, these Zoom meetings and stuff.
22:40
SPEAKER_00: Time in and time out all the time.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: And people who just watching football for the fun of it think they know more rules than you do.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: Now, yeah, don't get me wrong, everybody don't have the same ability and capability, but we're talking about Notre Dame and Miami.
23:03
SPEAKER_00: The guys that were on that game were on that game for a reason, you know.
23:08
SPEAKER_00: So I just I don't understand sometimes, and and I just be like, you know, this makes no sense to me because, like I said, people just want to argue for the sake of arguing calls.
23:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and quick, and also I believe, too, is uh and you know, I know you the ref, you the expert at this, is uh when people see a catch, I think a lot of times they don't realize that a catch in the playing field is different than a catch in the end zone and by sideline.
23:44
SPEAKER_01: Right.
23:45
SPEAKER_01: So if you fell, like I was thinking about last week, the guy fell down when he caught the ball.
23:51
SPEAKER_01: If he had fell inbounds and the ball was on his chest he inbounds, he got control.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: But if you fall out of control and you found fall on the white line, you found on the white line, when you gain control, you are actually out of bounds.
24:03
SPEAKER_01: So I think sometimes I see where people don't understand that if you lose control and fall out of bounds, you're out of bounds.
24:10
SPEAKER_01: If you lose control, but the ball is still like upright this way or something, you know, don't touch the ground, you are still in a playing field.
24:16
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, you might have seen plays that look similar, but the play the guy was in the playing field, you know, versus falling out of bounds.
24:24
SPEAKER_01: So I think I see a lot of that, then also I think I hear people mix in rules what they say the ground cannot cause a fumble, but they're mixing it up with the wrong with the wrong thing.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it's it's a lot that goes into it, and you have to each play is different.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: So people, man, he just did that last week.
24:46
SPEAKER_00: Every play is different, every circumstance is different, and so you have to break down each play to say, What about this?
24:55
SPEAKER_00: What about this?
24:56
SPEAKER_00: What about this?
24:57
SPEAKER_00: And then it gives you the answer to how to rule on a play, and it's got to be done like that.
25:03
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I don't know how many passing plays I ruled on.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: I work back judge, which is the deepest guy on the field, who primarily works passing plays, and so that stuff becomes hard, and you have to rely on the crew in order to get the information that you need.
25:21
SPEAKER_00: On that particular play, there was a guy that was watching in a seven-man mechanic, eight-man mechanic.
25:27
SPEAKER_00: There was there was a deep wing and there was a short wing.
25:30
SPEAKER_00: There was one who took the catch part of it, and there was one who took the feet to come up with one answer.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't just one person, one guy looked at the feet, the other guy looked at the catch.
25:43
SPEAKER_00: When did the catch happen?
25:45
SPEAKER_00: Boom, boom, boom.
25:46
SPEAKER_00: And you could you can almost simultaneously look at it together and rule at the same time.
25:52
SPEAKER_00: So that's we don't know that, right?
25:54
SPEAKER_01: We don't know that when we're watching it, you know that.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I had no idea that happens, so yeah, I'm sure most people don't.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and that guy, so it's 22 people on the field.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: Everybody has a primary man who they're watching.
26:12
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, the the widest wide receiver is the field judge and the deep judge.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: Those two guys are the the two deep.
26:20
SPEAKER_00: There's two people on every sideline, right?
26:22
SPEAKER_00: So you got one that's working deep, one that's working short, the short wing, deep wing.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: And so those two work in conjunction, but the deep wing always has the widest guy, right?
26:33
SPEAKER_00: And then you get the back judge who's deep in the middle, who picks up the number two guy.
26:38
SPEAKER_00: Then the short wings pick up the trips guy, or the back that comes to that area, so everybody has a guy.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: Umpire has the guard, center guard, the referee takes the tackle, center judge takes the other tackle, they work in conjunction together.
26:53
SPEAKER_00: So there's yeah, and just like in basketball, we referee the defense first.
27:00
SPEAKER_00: How did that guy get filed?
27:01
SPEAKER_00: How did he get to the ground?
27:02
SPEAKER_00: How all that other stuff.
27:04
SPEAKER_00: So that's right, that's what we do, and those are some of the the the parts that people don't know.
27:09
SPEAKER_00: They man, you're crazy, man.
27:12
SPEAKER_01: You can't see you can't see the tank, man.
27:16
SPEAKER_01: They gambling, they're gambling, it's a few.
27:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so those are some of the things that happen, and you know, I probably gagged too much.
27:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, if you want to know more, it costs$59.95.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: Uh so we'll do a we'll do a uh referee for dummies video to come out very soon.
27:38
SPEAKER_00: Right.
27:39
SPEAKER_01: I do want to mention one college thing.
27:40
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry if you don't mind.
27:42
SPEAKER_01: Go ahead.
27:43
SPEAKER_01: And Trinidad, I'm I you know, I follow him just like you.
27:47
SPEAKER_01: Man, I oh miss, man, they got they got spanked, didn't they?
27:52
SPEAKER_00: They got spanked.
27:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they got model how to get a first down, man.
27:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it and it's coming down to that.
27:59
SPEAKER_00: Uh the CFP came out with the the rankings last week, and people are still jockeying for position in the rankings because I think what we're still at the top 12 that get in, and so they came out with the top 25 last week.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: Ohio State lost bad again.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: Uh Miami lost.
28:18
SPEAKER_00: So now that shuffles the process of where everybody is, and so right now, if you're in the middle of the pack, man, you just hoping a couple guys lose and you can keep winning.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: But most of the list is uh Big Ten and SEC schools, yeah.
28:33
SPEAKER_00: That's on the on the list.
28:34
SPEAKER_00: You had Miami, I think, which was the only ACC school in the top 25.
28:39
SPEAKER_00: That was it.
28:40
SPEAKER_00: So everybody else came from somewhere else.
28:42
SPEAKER_00: You had uh BYU in Utah that was on there, and they played uh this past weekend.
28:48
SPEAKER_00: So um, you know, that's that's kind of where we are.
28:54
SPEAKER_00: So it's still we'll have we'll have a little bit more on that in a couple weeks when everything kind of shakes loose and shakes up.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, because it right now, you see the list, you be like, man, why is this team over this team?
29:06
SPEAKER_00: Because Alabama was ahead of Tennessee who actually whipped Alabama.
29:11
SPEAKER_00: So it's like, wait, why is this team?
29:12
SPEAKER_00: Then they strength the schedule, who you beat, uh how many ranked opponents you beat, and all that type stuff.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: So, like I said, we'll have more on that in the upcoming weeks.
29:23
SPEAKER_00: But, you know, hey, that's where we are with that.
29:27
SPEAKER_00: Um wanted to get into talking about something that everybody's talking about, you know, uh in our area.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: First, I want to talk about some IHSA football.
29:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, so now the IHSA moves to the quarterfinals, which means there are eight teams left in each of the eight brackets.
29:50
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so there are eight classes in the IHSA, and like I said, there's eight teams left.
29:56
SPEAKER_00: So that's a total of 64 teams that are left battling for a chance to raise that trophy at Illinois State the weekend of uh Thanksgiving starting that Friday and that Saturday.
30:07
SPEAKER_00: Uh we are we have a my crew has a quarterfinal game.
30:11
SPEAKER_00: Hey, if you watch the Bears game, if you watch the Bears game and they did the uh game ball to Sandy Natius, my crew was on that game, and I'm running across the screen on NBC, man.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: Man, I'm I'm doing it, man.
30:28
SPEAKER_00: Running on channel five, and I I had I went to the washroom for a second, all of a sudden my phone was blowing up.
30:33
SPEAKER_00: Man, y'all on TV, y'all on TV, you know.
30:36
SPEAKER_00: Hey man, y'all on TV.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, hey, we trying to got to go to the uh to the next part, and uh, you know.
30:51
SPEAKER_01: They just put you on mute somehow.
30:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:54
SPEAKER_00: I had to go on mute for a second, man.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: My dog started going crazy, man.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, they background going crazy.
31:01
SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, so we we actually was on the Bears game uh when they featured St.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: Nations and Maine South Um doing that doing that uh you know that that uh broadcast, which was cool.
31:15
SPEAKER_00: Really cool see yourself running on the screen and everybody, the whole nation's looking, so it's it's pretty cool.
31:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we do have another game this week, so we we're still working.
31:24
SPEAKER_00: This is our last game, and a lot of people like, man, I want to get to that state finals.
31:28
SPEAKER_00: I'll be like, Man, it's cold outside by the time the state finals.
31:32
SPEAKER_00: You know, last one we worked was at 24, it was nine degrees, bro.
31:36
SPEAKER_00: I was like, Man, I don't even want to be out here.
31:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it was freezing.
31:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so hey, so I was able to uh uh edit your microphone, so you you may not have to worry too much from the background noise.
31:49
SPEAKER_01: I was able to edit your mic the microphone where it's a function called edit background noise, so that you know you may hear the dolls, but it may not come through now.
31:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I couldn't hear myself.
31:59
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, man, what's okay, dude?
32:01
SPEAKER_01: I can't do nothing about that.
32:03
SPEAKER_00: I'm like that's the bros.
32:07
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
32:10
SPEAKER_00: You know, it is achievement week, you know.
32:12
SPEAKER_00: Right in November, let's take a Q out on a date.
32:16
SPEAKER_00: Let's take a Q out on a date month, you know, do something special for the bros, month.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right, right.
32:22
SPEAKER_01: Hey, we actually need my anniversary coming up too, man.
32:25
SPEAKER_01: I went over 84, 1117, man.
32:28
SPEAKER_01: So I'm about to hit 40, 40, 40, 42, 42 years, 42 years.
32:35
SPEAKER_00: Congratulations, man.
32:37
SPEAKER_00: Congratulations.
32:38
SPEAKER_00: Vacuiversary is tomorrow.
32:40
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, okay.
32:45
SPEAKER_00: You know, hey, hey, it's party time, party time somewhere.
32:48
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
32:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so um, hey, let's dig into it.
32:55
SPEAKER_00: Okay, man, it's right in our face.
32:59
SPEAKER_00: A lot of people have been calling and texting and trying to figure out what's going on.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: Um yesterday, uh, coach Chris Jones.
33:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Chris James.
33:11
SPEAKER_00: Why I say Chris Jones?
33:12
SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking about one of my referees.
33:14
SPEAKER_00: Chris James from Morgan Park was terminated.
33:19
SPEAKER_00: And you know, it hit a lot of people the wrong way.
33:25
SPEAKER_00: You know, Chris has Chris has put in a lot of work over there in Morgan Park.
33:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh the the principal, uh, Daniel Kuzma has not really given a cause for the termination.
33:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, yesterday uh Chris put up something that said that the principal had told the kids that they're not playing in the city playoffs, uh, the Prep Bowl playoffs, in which Morgan Park was scheduled to play on, I think it was Friday.
33:58
SPEAKER_00: And he pulled them from the playoffs, uh, locked the locker room door.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: Uh they said that he had taken away the access, a huddle, and all of that.
34:09
SPEAKER_00: And let me just say this the principal locked the locker room door, but Chris James built that locker room with his own bare hands.
34:18
SPEAKER_01: Oh no, okay, there you go.
34:20
SPEAKER_01: You freezing up.
34:21
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
34:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I still see myself rolling, but uh Chris James built that locker room with his own hands, uh, had a lot of stuff come in.
34:31
SPEAKER_00: He gets a lot of donor money from alumni and other places to actually take care of his players and to you know do the things that he needs to do for his team.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh CJ is a guy who played at the University of Illinois.
34:48
SPEAKER_00: He's an alumni of Morgan Park, played at Morgan Park under legendary Hall of Fame coach Lexi Spurlock.
34:55
SPEAKER_00: And so he came back to his alma mater and decided to, you know, this is where he wanted to be.
35:05
SPEAKER_00: So he came back in 2018 to take over.
35:11
SPEAKER_00: He has taken Morgan Park to the last six IHSA state playoffs, won a city championship last year, and won the quote-unquote city championship this year out of the red divisions.
35:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh, they were the Prep Bowl representative last year.
35:30
SPEAKER_00: He's gone to the quarterfinals in the state playoffs.
35:34
SPEAKER_00: He's gotten several kids into uh colleges all across the country playing football.
35:42
SPEAKER_00: Some are even playing Division I football.
35:44
SPEAKER_00: There's a video circulating this weekend from who we call the uh the uh the skinny reaper, Chris Durr.
35:54
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you saw that bubble screen from Maryland and uh who is that Maryland and Purdue, where the kid took the bubble screen and juke everybody, took off 80 yards up the sideline.
36:06
SPEAKER_00: That kid is a product of Chris James.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: No, okay.
36:09
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: So this this really hurts the community because it takes a long time to build these programs.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: It takes a long time to get you a coaching staff, it takes a long time to get these players, it takes a long time to get these parents behind you, and it takes a long time to build a culture of winning, you know, of playing good football, being respected across the state, and this is one that actually hurts more because a lot of people don't know Chris was up for the HF job a couple years ago.
36:56
SPEAKER_00: It was really his job, it was his job to take, but he decided to stay home at Morgan Park to continue to develop the kids in Morgan Park and stay in CPS.
37:11
SPEAKER_00: It was his job, it was his job to take.
37:13
SPEAKER_00: It was his job to say yay and nay, and he decided to stay at his school where he was alumni, and for him to be treated in such a such a manner and not even have a meeting, you know, just say, hey, come bring your keys and turn your keys in, it's something that's that's not sitting well with a lot of people.
37:37
SPEAKER_00: Morgan Park students had a walkout today at 10:30, where they walked out in support of Coach James, and these parents and these kids deserve answers.
37:50
SPEAKER_00: You know, the the one thing that's really disturbing about this whole thing is that we always say it's about the kids.
38:00
SPEAKER_00: That's a damn lie.
38:01
SPEAKER_00: That's a damn lie.
38:03
SPEAKER_00: Because if it's about those kids and you got a problem with Chris James, then you should have somebody else coach those kids.
38:12
SPEAKER_00: You're taking away opportunity, yeah.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: You're taking away opportunity for these kids that last a lifetime, yeah.
38:20
SPEAKER_00: And so you're gonna be the guy that puts a hundred kids on the streets this weekend.
38:28
SPEAKER_00: You're that guy, you want to be that guy.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, hey, quick, that is such a valid point.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: Look, you was a champion in high school.
38:38
SPEAKER_01: I got to a championship game and lost, but that even though we lost, that's a lifelong memory for me, for my high school team as a player to get that, and to rob those kids of not know they got the championship, but to rob them of that prep bowl opportunity because of whatever whatever the reason was, but the kids still earn the right to play in that game.
39:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I I don't I don't I don't like that.
39:05
SPEAKER_00: Since since 2018, Chris has been uh 55 and 24 overall record.
39:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh he's played some of the uh he's played in some of the biggest games.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: Last year they lost to uh Downs Grove North, who's one of the premier teams in the area.
39:23
SPEAKER_00: Morgan Park lost to them by like a field goal, a last second field goal.
39:28
SPEAKER_00: And you're you're building up these programs, right?
39:33
SPEAKER_00: And to have somebody take that away from you because you don't agree with their coaching style or their vision as far as football.
39:42
SPEAKER_00: Hell, you're an administrator, you don't have a damn vision of football.
39:46
SPEAKER_00: You got a vision of how to run a school.
39:48
SPEAKER_00: You can't tell a guy who is and Chris played at the University of Illinois, he played in the Big Ten.
39:55
SPEAKER_00: So you can't tell a guy that played in the Big Ten how the hell to run a football program.
40:00
SPEAKER_00: You could tell him maybe how to run a school, but you can't tell him how to run a football program and what's best for the football program.
40:07
SPEAKER_00: Now, if there's some other underlying things, then you need to make that known.
40:11
SPEAKER_00: The principal has not made a statement at all.
40:16
SPEAKER_00: But how do you tell these kids that you know, hey man, you know, we're just gonna forego the rest of the season, and you know, this is the semifinals for the pre bowl playoffs this weekend.
40:31
SPEAKER_00: So potentially they they would have played in the semifinals this weekend.
40:36
SPEAKER_00: If they won, they'd have played next weekend, and then they would have played in the pre bowl on Friday after Thanksgiving.
40:44
SPEAKER_00: So you rob these kids of this opportunity, like I said, that would have lasted them a uh a lifetime.
40:51
SPEAKER_00: Man, these parents are outraged, and they should be.
40:54
SPEAKER_00: They should be, they should be up there still right now, waiting on this dude to get to work.
40:59
SPEAKER_00: And then you we have a copy of Chris' statement as well.
41:03
SPEAKER_01: I just want to put it on the screen.
41:04
SPEAKER_01: Let me how much of that.
41:06
SPEAKER_01: Um remove that one.
41:08
SPEAKER_01: There we go.
41:10
SPEAKER_01: Leave that lead up there.
41:11
SPEAKER_01: You know, if you get opportunity, if you're viewing this, you'll be able to read it.
41:15
SPEAKER_01: Go ahead, quick, quick.
41:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I can read it.
41:17
SPEAKER_00: Say thank you to all the families that trusted our staff with the development of their young men.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: That means the world to me, and I would never take it for granted.
41:26
SPEAKER_00: In the words of great Uncle Elroy, y'all started this barbecue.
41:32
SPEAKER_00: And I did not intend for it to end this way, and so the principal had been pressuring him from what I heard.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: He was pressuring him to make a decision on if he was gonna come back next year and things of that nature.
41:46
SPEAKER_00: But again, that has nothing to do with the players at Morgan Park.
41:52
SPEAKER_00: These kids have been practicing all year, weight wound, track, running, you know, lifting weights, all that stuff, and trying to get ready, and that's that that's one of the goals for the football program, right?
42:10
SPEAKER_00: And so you take that away from the kids.
42:15
SPEAKER_00: Now, I always say that what I always say, and that's right, that's right, Jawan.
42:24
SPEAKER_00: That that happened at Phillips.
42:26
SPEAKER_00: That it basically happened at Phillips.
42:28
SPEAKER_00: Um, after you, though, that happened with with Joe at Phillips, and so now you know Phillips was 0-9 this year, and so same thing happened to us at Julian.
42:39
SPEAKER_00: Our coach, the immortal JW Smith, Dr.
42:42
SPEAKER_00: J.W.
42:43
SPEAKER_00: Smith, got into it with the principal, and now he was no longer coaching.
42:48
SPEAKER_00: And we had just one city in the prep bowl the year before and returned a lot of players back, and now you leave these kids in shambles, right?
42:58
SPEAKER_00: Now you done ran off the coach, and now the kids is dead.
43:01
SPEAKER_00: Well, who you get who you got coming in?
43:03
SPEAKER_00: Mike Tomlin next year?
43:04
SPEAKER_00: Who you got coming in to coach?
43:06
SPEAKER_00: You got Mike Tomlin coming in, you got Dave Wands there.
43:10
SPEAKER_00: Who principal Kuzma?
43:12
SPEAKER_00: Who you got coming in to coach that's gonna be better than this guy, right?
43:16
SPEAKER_00: Who you got?
43:17
SPEAKER_00: This he's running the top team.
43:21
SPEAKER_00: And this listen, ladies and gentlemen, this was the number one team in Chicago Public School.
43:31
SPEAKER_00: This was the cream of the crop, the coup de gra.
43:35
SPEAKER_00: We we only got a couple now.
43:37
SPEAKER_00: We got a couple of teams, and this was one of the top ones.
43:42
SPEAKER_00: And the reason why I could say that is because they beat all the other ones that was the top ones.
43:47
SPEAKER_00: So this was the top team, and now you get rid of the coach and you don't make a statement.
43:54
SPEAKER_00: Like, like, what are we doing here?
43:56
SPEAKER_00: What are we doing?
43:57
SPEAKER_00: Like I said, we we say it's about the school.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: We said it's about the kids, we say about the culture and all that.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: Man, that's BS, man, because it is really about who got the biggest ego.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: I'ma show you.
44:11
SPEAKER_00: You ain't you don't run my school.
44:13
SPEAKER_00: And so a lot of times, man, a lot of times these coaches do run these run these schools.
44:22
SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
44:23
SPEAKER_00: Uh Juwan said, know what happened during our championship run.
44:27
SPEAKER_00: Nobody knew about it.
44:28
SPEAKER_00: We had a principal for a few months that did the same things.
44:32
SPEAKER_00: She got lifted.
44:34
SPEAKER_00: Well, and here's the here's the other thing about this principal.
44:38
SPEAKER_00: You know, these guys, they sign these contracts now.
44:40
SPEAKER_00: And just you know, just being a uh a fly on the wall, find out that this principal re-signed a four-year contract for almost 150,000.
44:50
SPEAKER_00: So that's$600,000.
44:52
SPEAKER_00: And this dude probably ain't going nowhere.
44:55
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I'm still trying to figure out who the hell he got coming in, though.
45:00
SPEAKER_00: That's what I want to know.
45:02
SPEAKER_01: Right.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: Because this type of stuff happens, and they start bringing in their own people.
45:08
SPEAKER_00: This happened at Morgan Park before when I talked about Coach Spurlock.
45:11
SPEAKER_00: They got rid of Coach Spurlock and brought another guy in.
45:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh, it was the I can't remember the guy's name, but he was the brother of one of the bears at the time.
45:20
SPEAKER_00: Came in from Michigan.
45:22
SPEAKER_00: Man, dude couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.
45:26
SPEAKER_00: And Morgan Park, it showed, and I think that guy was there for two years and then he left.
45:32
SPEAKER_00: And then uh Wesley Yates went over there to try to revitalize the program.
45:37
SPEAKER_00: But when you bring in one of these guys that don't vibe with the kids, because now guess what you're about to have now.
45:44
SPEAKER_00: These kids, man, dude, we already got a transfer portal.
45:47
SPEAKER_00: Let's just call it what it is.
45:48
SPEAKER_00: We got a transfer.
45:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you got a transfer, yo.
45:51
SPEAKER_00: The high school transfer portal.
45:53
SPEAKER_00: And I talked about this in a show, a previous show.
45:56
SPEAKER_00: These Catholic schools are sitting back, like, come on, come on over here.
46:02
SPEAKER_00: Let me show you how we can treat you too.
46:04
SPEAKER_00: Come on, we can show you better.
46:06
SPEAKER_00: They they sitting there like, man, because these kids ain't gonna do no but transfer, they're gonna transfer to another school, especially if you bring in the wrong guy.
46:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, hey, quick, even when you talk about, and I know I showed the flyer or the walkout, uh, the the students in the school are affected by it as well, especially if you have when you have a good program that's winning in whatever sport it might be, that becomes part of what you brag about as a student, right?
46:35
SPEAKER_01: Even if you don't participate in the sports, right?
46:38
SPEAKER_01: That's part of your social life.
46:40
SPEAKER_01: You look forward to the to the games, you look forward to the homecoming game, right?
46:44
SPEAKER_01: If it's football season, and when you graduate, that's part of your long-term memories as well, and maybe some of your fondest memories of high school.
46:53
SPEAKER_01: I have classmates right now.
46:54
SPEAKER_01: I graduated, I've graduated 43 years ago out of high school.
46:58
SPEAKER_01: I have classmates right now who every once in a while be like, Man, y'all made our high school experience so much fun.
47:05
SPEAKER_01: And they talk about the football team, like man, you know, they like you know, sometimes they're like, Yeah, we kick butt, right?
47:11
SPEAKER_01: So you are harming the other kids, it's not just the players, you're harming the students there, and that's why the students staged a walkout, they're upset about it.
47:20
SPEAKER_01: You rob even them of those moments to be able to uh cheer on and to have those lifelong memories as their um school become you know keep winning games, yeah.
47:33
SPEAKER_00: And and and just even even the brag and rights of different schools versus other schools, right?
47:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I told you I met uh Fred Crosby the other day from Limblown, he was the running back that played in Limblown, number 34.
47:48
SPEAKER_00: We played against each other in the playoffs back in 1991.
47:54
SPEAKER_00: We played against each other in '91.
47:57
SPEAKER_00: We met each other.
47:58
SPEAKER_00: We met it because he's the bros, and I'm the bros, and we met each other as the bros.
48:03
SPEAKER_00: What school you went to limbloom?
48:05
SPEAKER_00: I went to Judah.
48:06
SPEAKER_00: When you play, I play.
48:07
SPEAKER_00: We was like, hey man, you remember that game we played, man, in the mud over there, stack man, yeah, man.
48:13
SPEAKER_00: You remember that, man?
48:14
SPEAKER_00: And so those are the things when you become friends with guys later on in life.
48:20
SPEAKER_00: I had a I had a uh a college guy that went to Mississippi Valley with me, named Lee Roddy.
48:26
SPEAKER_00: He runs the South Highland Jets, right?
48:29
SPEAKER_00: And so Lee played at Bogan.
48:32
SPEAKER_00: Lee hated Julian because Julian beat them three years in a row for the city championship.
48:39
SPEAKER_00: So when we were at school, that was all we talked.
48:42
SPEAKER_00: If I if I call Lee right now, man, hate you Julian dudes, man.
48:45
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
48:46
SPEAKER_00: Man, dudes, man.
48:48
SPEAKER_00: And so those are some of the things, man.
48:51
SPEAKER_00: But you know what?
48:51
SPEAKER_00: Love him as my brother, man.
48:53
SPEAKER_00: We just, you know, man, hate you Julian dudes, man.
48:55
SPEAKER_00: What's up quick, man?
48:56
SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
48:57
SPEAKER_00: And then we get to talking, right?
48:58
SPEAKER_00: And so we start talking about games and all that type of stuff.
49:02
SPEAKER_00: And hey man, remember in the city championship, man, this what happened, and and remember this and that and that.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: And so those are things that we talk about, like even the camaraderie of the players, because some of these players are going to be future coaches, right?
49:19
SPEAKER_00: Some of these players may be future people in administration or things of that nature.
49:24
SPEAKER_00: I meet people all the time that I played with, I played against, and those are the experiences that we had, man.
49:30
SPEAKER_00: We'll we'll remember home at class, we'll remember that we remember the games, we remember the the experiences, man.
49:38
SPEAKER_00: We remember when Julian played finger, man, back in, I think it was my sophomore year, man.
49:43
SPEAKER_00: And they got the uh finger people got the fighting with the police, and somebody stole on the horse, man.
49:48
SPEAKER_00: We remember that stuff, right?
49:50
SPEAKER_00: Those are things that we remember, man.
49:53
SPEAKER_00: We don't remember, you know, and you you're robbing these kids because it's called extracurricular, right?
50:02
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
50:03
SPEAKER_00: in cj's in cj's letter he talked about how the baseball coach quit girls basketball coach quit Because of the administration that's there that's bucking against everybody trying to create a program at the school, right?
50:25
SPEAKER_00: And so it shouldn't be that way because people don't realize a lot of these kids go to these schools because of the athletic programs at certain schools, that's why they go there.
50:39
SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, we we gotta figure out a way to try to figure out, but we're gonna be still waiting and and without into the ground to find out a little bit more about this story because it's gotta be more.
50:52
SPEAKER_00: You can't just say, hey, well, you can because you're the principal, and being a coach ain't a union position, and you can put whoever you want to in that position, as long as they clear and all that, you can put whoever you want to in that position.
51:05
SPEAKER_00: It's not a it's not like I said, it's not a union position, so you can get fired any any anytime, but you got it gotta make sense.
51:13
SPEAKER_00: You can't how you fire the guy that's leading CPS football and don't come out and say nothing.
51:22
SPEAKER_00: That means that if you haven't said nothing by now, your school is in shambles.
51:28
SPEAKER_00: And somebody made a post on one of my posts.
51:32
SPEAKER_00: Hey, how them kids go to school and walk around the school every day, and have the principal try to figure out why the attendance numbers are so low.
51:42
SPEAKER_00: They got an answer for that stuff, right?
51:46
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, what are we doing?
51:50
SPEAKER_00: I I I don't, I still don't understand.
51:52
SPEAKER_00: And what's what's really weird about this whole situation, it's it's harming the kids.
52:01
SPEAKER_00: Like, right?
52:01
SPEAKER_00: We like I said, we everybody's always talking about this.
52:04
SPEAKER_00: It's for the kids, it's for the kids.
52:07
SPEAKER_00: No, it's not, it's not for the kids.
52:09
SPEAKER_00: Grown-ups ruin kids' experience every time.
52:15
SPEAKER_00: They ruin the kid's experience every time, man.
52:20
SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna get on to the rest of the show.
52:23
SPEAKER_00: But you know where we at right now, dog.
52:25
SPEAKER_00: We gotta get since we talking about this video.
52:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, we gotta give away the Rudy Pooh Award.
52:31
SPEAKER_00: We already know who's getting it.
52:33
SPEAKER_00: We gotta give it away.
52:34
SPEAKER_00: Hold on, let me let me let me bring up the video before you announce it.
52:49
SPEAKER_00: The Rudy Pooh candy ass award goes to the person who has cost their team the most, who has fumbled the bag, who has made the mistake of the week, and that person is none other than Principal Daniel Guzma Kuzma from Morgan Park High School.
53:09
SPEAKER_00: Man, how do you fire the number one coach in the city?
53:14
SPEAKER_00: The number one coach of the number one team in the city.
53:18
SPEAKER_00: You don't give no explanation, you don't answer any questions.
53:22
SPEAKER_00: The news media has been calling you, and everybody that I've heard from the news says he has not gotten back to us.
53:29
SPEAKER_00: So, Daniel Kuzman, you are this week's Rudy Pooh candy ass.
53:35
SPEAKER_00: Rudy, you know what?
53:38
SPEAKER_00: This food is up the street.
53:39
SPEAKER_00: I can actually drop your award off.
53:41
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know what?
53:41
SPEAKER_00: Let me let me get it.
53:42
SPEAKER_00: I can get that ward to uh to Brick over there at the school.
53:45
SPEAKER_00: He can drop it off in the principal's mailbox for me.
53:48
SPEAKER_00: You know, you can get that over there.
53:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
53:52
SPEAKER_01: So no, we we have supplied.
53:56
SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah.
53:57
SPEAKER_00: Send us your uh send us send a video with your acceptance speech.
54:01
SPEAKER_00: Um, because right, yeah, this this really doesn't make any sense.
54:06
SPEAKER_00: We'll have more.
54:07
SPEAKER_00: I'll be posting on my page as it becomes available.
54:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh we'll be sticking close to this story here because, like I said, we all want answers to it.
54:18
SPEAKER_00: People have been upset all over Facebook, all over uh Instagram, Twitter.
54:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh, the the news has been following this story, probably be on tonight at 9 and 10 on the different networks.
54:33
SPEAKER_00: And we just want answers, man.
54:36
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I can't make you keep him as a coach, but my concern more than that is why are these kids not playing?
54:46
SPEAKER_00: You are going to let a hundred kids loose on the weekends in the city of Chicago, at least when one thing about football is that we know where they are at practice.
54:57
SPEAKER_00: Most of the time, you at school, most of the time.
55:00
SPEAKER_00: You're at the school, you're when you're playing games, you're with the coach.
55:04
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, he'll answer the questions that let me tell you something.
55:10
SPEAKER_00: I know some of them LL um LFC people, and I know some of them alumni people at Morgan Park.
55:18
SPEAKER_00: They finna eat his ass up.
55:20
SPEAKER_00: They I feel sorry for him walking in that room.
55:24
SPEAKER_00: Because I don't know if y'all know, but Miss Parker, listen, they finna eat him alive in that meat.
55:34
SPEAKER_00: He might send a video, uh, a video response to that meat.
55:39
SPEAKER_00: He may not want to walk in there.
55:42
SPEAKER_00: That's hey, that's shark, that's shark water right there.
55:45
SPEAKER_00: He he may not want to go up in there.
55:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but but my question is too, if you say he's gonna answer at the LSC meeting, why you why you taking so long?
55:55
SPEAKER_00: What what are you what are you hiding?
55:58
SPEAKER_00: Seem like you hiding something, you know.
56:01
SPEAKER_00: So, hey, enjoy your Rudy Pooh award for the week, principal.
56:07
SPEAKER_00: That was the dumbest damn decision I done seen in a very long time.
56:12
SPEAKER_00: We have had a very bad year in CPS sports so far.
56:18
SPEAKER_00: With the with the pan of the referees, with this.
56:23
SPEAKER_00: I mean, and it's only November, man.
56:25
SPEAKER_00: We started school in August.
56:27
SPEAKER_00: It's three months in, man.
56:29
SPEAKER_00: We've had more headline stories this year than any other year so far that I can mention.
56:35
SPEAKER_00: It's it's unbelievable.
56:38
SPEAKER_00: And we ain't even started basketball yet.
56:40
SPEAKER_00: Y'all know that's when the news really hit with Chicago.
56:44
SPEAKER_00: So yep.
56:47
SPEAKER_00: But you got anything else, Don?
56:51
SPEAKER_01: It's disappointing to hear that story in typical uh CPS fashion.
56:57
SPEAKER_01: They issue a statement saying we don't deal with uh personal matters, and they do and in some cases it's principals who have been wrongly fired, and CPS be the culprit of the firing, etc.
57:11
SPEAKER_01: In cases like this, is at the at the school level and CPS does the same thing.
57:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I wish we could have got intervention from you know, maybe City Hall or something, to say, hey, let that man coach that and let them play that game, but that that's not gonna happen at this point, and which is disappointing.
57:33
SPEAKER_01: And uh as much as children are having different issues through the summer, you know, with the takeovers and stuff, one thing that high school coaches are able to do, whatever sport they coach, they're able to get uh a bunch of children from different backgrounds, economic status, different neighborhoods to participate in a sport and play together.
57:59
SPEAKER_01: And to and if you're in an environment where you're able to get all those same kids to be able to win, and a lot of times, even though sports get those, you know, hey, I was a C student until I you know D sometime until I start playing sports.
58:14
SPEAKER_01: That was the motivation there.
58:15
SPEAKER_01: So a lot of times, even with sports, it it helps individuals maybe uh pay more attention to school.
58:21
SPEAKER_01: So it's disappointing that they would just do that and a principal, and then you know, then put off the uh talking about it until a week later, pretty much.
58:31
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes the 18.
58:32
SPEAKER_01: Today is the 10th.
58:34
SPEAKER_01: I think it happened yesterday.
58:35
SPEAKER_01: So you you're putting it off for a whole week.
58:37
SPEAKER_01: After that, everything is over anyway, as far as the season is over.
58:41
SPEAKER_01: Uh, because you the game already took place.
58:43
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1:00:36
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1:00:38
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1:00:42
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1:00:46
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