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Furness Show 9-4: Greg Cosell, Danny O'Neil, Rob Rang · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in on a Friday. I didn't hear any crazy open,
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: so I guess it's not officially one of our football Fridays.
• 0:06
  Speaker 2: Not yet.
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  Speaker 1: It is a football Friday. College football week one is tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: It started yesterday. Blocked field goal. Thrilling game down with
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  Speaker 1: Georgia Tech and Colorado after you saw that. Thrilling ending.
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  Speaker 1: A blocked field goal by Colorado against Georgia Tech. Colorado
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  Speaker 1: took a late lead. Found the end zone and found
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  Speaker 1: their way in and had a lead. And then all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, just like that, Georgia Tech marched down
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  Speaker 1: the field in 30 seconds and missed a field goal
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  Speaker 1: from 45 yards out on a block at the end.
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  Speaker 1: There is nothing like college football. As broken as it is.
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  Speaker 1: As broken off the field as it is. The final
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  Speaker 1: three minutes of that game, you never see in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: You just don't. Like, you just don't. A 7-7 game
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  Speaker 1: that ended up being.
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  Speaker 1: You just don't see those games. So anyway, that was
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  Speaker 1: last night. Tomorrow we've got a full slate. We've got
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  Speaker 1: games tonight. Fresno State, USC, one of the headliners, among others. Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: of course, a full slate. Clemson-LSU is the marquee matchup
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  Speaker 1: in many people's eyes. Three games on Sunday. Two games
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  Speaker 1: are late, but the early game is the Apple Cup.
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  Speaker 1: Pre-game show starts at 4 a.m. here on 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 1: FM with a new sideline for Softee and the Honks.
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  Speaker 1: So enjoy all the coverage here if you're a Husky fan.
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  Speaker 1: And away you go with the Huskies and the Cougs
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  Speaker 1: and the Apple Cup in September. We'll get into that
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  Speaker 1: a little bit with Danny O'Neill coming up today at
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  Speaker 1: 1.20 this afternoon.
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  Speaker 4: Should be fun, a Husky and a Coug in one segment.
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  Speaker 1: Danny's a good dude, too. He's not a typical Husky.
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  Speaker 1: He's actually not a condescending jerk like most of them are.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll have him on coming up today at 1.20.
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  Speaker 1: And then Rob rang at 2 o'clock. We'll preview the
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  Speaker 1: college football weekend as it relates especially to the draft,
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  Speaker 1: and he'll talk Apple Cup with us too, Rob Will.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into that with him. Brought to you by
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  Speaker 1: Farrelly's Pizza, farrellyspizza.com, down the South Sound. Greg Cosell is
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  Speaker 1: going to join us here in about 12 minutes' time,
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  Speaker 1: his first visit of the year. What can he tell us, Anders?
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  Speaker 4: He can only tell us what the tape shows us, Ian.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I just want to confirm if that's still
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  Speaker 1: the policy or not. I'm sure we'll hear that line.
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  Speaker 1: The tape's talking to me. God, he is a beauty.
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  Speaker 1: He's a beauty. And I just want to point this out.
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  Speaker 1: Let's pat KJ on the back for a second. Greg
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  Speaker 1: does two or three national shows every week. He does,
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  Speaker 1: I think, about three or four local shows a week.
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  Speaker 1: And that's it.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like he goes parading around all the markets
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL doing as many hits as possible.
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  Speaker 1: And we've had him on the show for, I want
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  Speaker 1: to say, five. God, 15, 16 years.
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  Speaker 4: You're one of the lucky few.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm thrilled. I got lucky. I first talked to
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  Speaker 1: him when we were in Portland, and I was filling
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  Speaker 1: in when Colin Coward was our morning guy. And when
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  Speaker 1: Colin was off, I flipped from the afternoons to the
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  Speaker 1: morning show and had a few segments with Greg and said,
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  Speaker 1: this guy is unbelievable. He is unbelievable. He's really good.
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  Speaker 1: And we've got to get him on. We got to
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  Speaker 1: get him on in Seattle and made the effort, and
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  Speaker 1: he's been here with us ever since and I love
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  Speaker 1: having him on. So he'll join us coming up at 1220.
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  Speaker 1: We'll just talk Seahawks mostly. We haven't done enough of that.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of a weird week with them having three
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  Speaker 1: days off, and now they're back at it. And I
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  Speaker 1: guess today would be technically, what, a Tuesday? I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know what day it is for them. Monday's a Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday's a Wednesday, as our good friend used to say.
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  Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh, yeah. Monday's a Tuesday, Tuesday's a Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday's a Thursday. But with a Wednesday football game, The
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  Speaker 1: schedule's a little bit off, but we'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about the Patriots. We'll probably replay a chunk
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  Speaker 1: of that coming up on Wednesday, the day of the
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  Speaker 1: game as well. So all that up. I'll wait till
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  Speaker 1: 1 o'clock, but we have kind of an interesting soundbite
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  Speaker 1: from Bryce Miller last night with Softie and Fane. Disturbing,
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  Speaker 1: I'd say, in some ways.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got it. If you want to go.
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  Speaker 1: We'll play it. Because I want to jump in. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to run out of time here in this segment,
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  Speaker 1: I think. We'll spend some more time on that coming
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  Speaker 1: up today. at 1 o'clock. Just a real quick thought
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  Speaker 1: on them. Anders and I were doing the math here
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  Speaker 1: before the show started. Every time you think they're in it,
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  Speaker 1: then they lose a game to the A's. Now, they
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  Speaker 1: could go back and win the next three against the A's,
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  Speaker 1: and you feel a lot better about yourself, right? Yep.
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  Speaker 1: What gives you any indication they're going to win three
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  Speaker 1: straight against the A's?
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  Speaker 4: That would be nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So let's do some math. Now, this isn't radio
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  Speaker 1: math because we did it before the show, so it's
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  Speaker 1: not on the fly. You guys won't have to suffer
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  Speaker 1: through that. But, Anders, I've kind of thought all along
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  Speaker 1: to win the division, you probably need to be 82
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  Speaker 1: and 80. Yeah, I agree. That might be the bare minimum.
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  Speaker 1: But let's take it a step down. Let's say it's
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  Speaker 1: 81 and 81, right? 81 and 81.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: The Mariners would have to go... 15-6 the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the way. 15-6 the rest of the way to get
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  Speaker 1: to 81-81. Now, I'm going to take Texas out of
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  Speaker 1: the equation. For then that to be good, you would
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  Speaker 1: have to hope Houston would go 9-12 the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the way. Or worse.
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  Speaker 6: Or worse.
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  Speaker 1: And you've got the tiebreaker on them. So the Mariners
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  Speaker 1: go 15-6, the Astros go 9-12, you're 81-81 and you're
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: That's if Texas doesn't go on a run either.
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  Speaker 1: And here's the... Because we were doing this math, and
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  Speaker 1: that was the problem. Texas is... So you're six behind Houston,
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  Speaker 1: but you're five behind Houston because you have the tiebreaker.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: We can look at it that way. You're four behind Texas,
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  Speaker 1: but you're actually five behind Texas because they have the tiebreaker. Correct.
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  Speaker 4: So really, you're five behind both teams.
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  Speaker 1: And you're four and a half out of the wildcard spot,
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  Speaker 1: but you're The wild card's going to go to a
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  Speaker 1: team above 500.
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  Speaker 4: It's just there's a bunch of teams there.
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  Speaker 1: There's a bunch of teams, and someone's going to end
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  Speaker 1: up above 500.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So then you're talking not just going, at that
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  Speaker 1: point you're not just going, what did I say earlier,
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  Speaker 1: 15 and 7?
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  Speaker 4: 15 and 6.
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  Speaker 1: 15 and 6. Then you're probably having to go 16
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  Speaker 1: and 5, 17 and 4, probably for the wild card?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just, again.
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  Speaker 1: Are you going to lose only four or five more
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  Speaker 1: games the rest of the month?
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  Speaker 4: No, they might lose four more games this week.
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  Speaker 1: It's a maddening season, man. It's a maddening season. They
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  Speaker 1: could still find their way in, maybe. That could happen,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. Miracles could happen. But then you have a
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  Speaker 1: game like last night, and you just... I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what's missing, honestly. Montes looks great at times, but we
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  Speaker 1: also saw the other side of Montes last night. The
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  Speaker 1: swing and miss is there. Boy, when he... The foul
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  Speaker 1: ball he hit was terrifying.
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  Speaker 9: It's true.
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  Speaker 1: I think it broke a seat down the first baseline.
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  Speaker 1: I think it shattered a seat. That's a hard thing
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  Speaker 1: to see.
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  Speaker 4: And the fact that he had in his one hit
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  Speaker 4: of the night, the RBI in the first inning, on
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  Speaker 4: a broken bat that almost got caught by the left fielder.
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  Speaker 4: That tells you how much power this guy has.
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  Speaker 1: It's insane. So we got all that going on. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let's do this. We'll get back to them at 1 o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk a little football. How about if we check
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  Speaker 1: in with Greg Cosell? We're a few days away from
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks and the Patriots, but it's time to talk
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  Speaker 1: with Greg Cosell. That's coming up next.
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  Speaker 7: Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the Huskies, Kraken,
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  Speaker 7: and the 12th man. Brought to you by Seattle's closest
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  Speaker 1: All right, here you go, NFL music. And here on
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  Speaker 1: this Friday, we're at the Snoqualmie Casino and Hotel. Ladies
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  Speaker 1: and gentlemen, he is back for another year. Greg Cosell.
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  Speaker 1: NFL Films, ESPN matchup show, the guru of all film study.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we have spoken since right after the draft.
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  Speaker 1: We let him go for the summer. He said, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I can only handle you so much. I don't see
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: Jessamyn there anymore. She's doing the show before yours. I know. Anders,
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  Speaker 1: don't be offended, buddy. I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone says that about Jess compared to me, so it's
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  Speaker 4: not abnormal.
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  Speaker 1: Hi greg how are you.
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  Speaker 10: Uh doing great i can't believe it's here um you
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  Speaker 10: know i it's funny i pretty much watch tape of
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  Speaker 10: some sort almost every day this summer i probably watched
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  Speaker 10: about 120 college players of which i'm sure 95 of
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  Speaker 10: them will be in the draft and then uh And,
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  Speaker 10: of course, some of them might be back in college,
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  Speaker 10: you know, the way the new ruling is, you know,
• 9:02
  Speaker 10: that's the way it is. Now you can, you know,
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  Speaker 10: I guess you can be 35 and go back to college.
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  Speaker 10: But anyway, yeah, the last month or so, I've just been,
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  Speaker 10: you know, grinding, rewatching a whole bunch of NFL stuff
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  Speaker 10: to get back in the groove. And, you know, just
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  Speaker 10: especially teams that have the same coaching staff. Because when
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  Speaker 10: it's a new coaching staff, you never know what kind
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  Speaker 10: of changes will be made unless it comes from the
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  Speaker 10: same kind of school. Like, for instance, with the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 10: with Brian Fleury, it's essentially the same school of offensive
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  Speaker 10: philosophy that Kubiak came from, which is the Kyle Shanahan school.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to get to that. We'll get to
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  Speaker 1: that in a minute. You mentioned the college guys. Let
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  Speaker 1: me just start with kind of a refresher for us
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  Speaker 1: here in Seattle because it's been a while. When we
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  Speaker 1: last spoke, you were telling us that we talked about
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  Speaker 1: Jadarian Price and who the Seahawks drafted in the first round,
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  Speaker 1: the second Notre Dame draft pick of a running back
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  Speaker 1: in the first round behind Love, obviously, going to Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't see Jadarian Price. He didn't play in the preseason.
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  Speaker 1: He was banged up a little bit, but he's healthy
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  Speaker 1: as far as we know, and he will be the
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  Speaker 1: starter and the lead running back for Seattle when they
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: take the field on Wednesday against the New England Patriots. Greg,
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  Speaker 1: what do you recall? What can you tell Seahawks fans
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  Speaker 1: about what you saw on tape during his tenure at
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame at Jadarian Price?
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  Speaker 10: Well, he had 113 rushes last year at Notre Dame, Ian,
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  Speaker 10: and I watched them all when I did them prior
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  Speaker 10: to the draft. And obviously, so people understand, I don't
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  Speaker 10: know who's going to draft players when I watch them.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, they.
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  Speaker 10: Obviously drafted him. Um, I thought what immediately stood out
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  Speaker 10: with Price was his decisiveness as a downhill runner. He,
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  Speaker 10: I thought he had sudden short area burst. I thought
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  Speaker 10: he had explosiveness. Um, I wouldn't call him loose-hipped, and
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  Speaker 10: I'd say he's a little stiff, but he did have
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  Speaker 10: quick feet. He could make sharp, controlled cuts at the
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  Speaker 10: first level of the defense. I didn't necessarily see him
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  Speaker 10: as a true home-run threat, but I don't think that's
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  Speaker 10: a critical trait for a running back in the NFL.
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  Speaker 10: But I think there were times that he did run
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  Speaker 10: away from second- and third-level defenders, even though he's not
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  Speaker 10: Jameer Gibbs or that kind of bag. But I think
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  Speaker 10: he certainly has enough juice. I really liked the way
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  Speaker 10: he ran. I thought he was competitive. I thought he
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  Speaker 10: was physical. I thought he was tough. You know, and,
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  Speaker 10: you know, I guess I saw him as a guy,
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  Speaker 10: and here was my final line in my transition. I said,
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  Speaker 10: my sense is Price will be seen as a higher-level
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  Speaker 10: volume complement as opposed to a foundation back that is
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  Speaker 10: the starting point of an offense, but it is certainly
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  Speaker 10: possible that he could be seen as a feature back
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  Speaker 10: depending on a team's offensive philosophies. Obviously, the Seahawks see
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  Speaker 10: him as a feature back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. Charbonnet is going to miss a few games.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like Helani is going to be the number
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  Speaker 1: two guy for now. Let's get to the offense itself
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  Speaker 1: because you mentioned Brian Fleury. We go from Kubiak here
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  Speaker 1: in Seattle, who then now is the head coach of
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  Speaker 1: the Raiders, and they bring in Brian Fleury, first-time play caller,
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  Speaker 1: former assistant coach with Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco, and
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  Speaker 1: while we don't know really what Fleury's about as a
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  Speaker 1: play caller overall, you can kind of fill us in
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  Speaker 1: a little bit on the philosophy and maybe kind of
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  Speaker 1: what to expect from this offense. Is it much the
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  Speaker 1: same as we've seen?
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  Speaker 10: Well, let's put it this way. I think what you'll
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  Speaker 10: see conceptually and from a methodology standpoint, I think you'll see–
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  Speaker 10: the same thing. The thing that I always think about
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  Speaker 10: when you have a new coordinator is not necessarily how
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  Speaker 10: it's taught, because it'll be taught in a very similar
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  Speaker 10: fashion as to what Kubiak did. The question always then comes,
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  Speaker 10: and there's no way to know this until you play
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  Speaker 10: the games. And it's even hard then because, you know,
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  Speaker 10: you and I are not sitting in the meetings during
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  Speaker 10: the week, but then it comes down more to the
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  Speaker 10: specific calls.
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  Speaker 1: In a game.
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  Speaker 10: You know, uh, how you go about putting together the
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  Speaker 10: game plan. The concepts will be very similar. The whole
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  Speaker 10: structure will be very similar. But what, you know, what's
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  Speaker 10: the game plan going to be against specific opponents? And
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  Speaker 10: what are the calls going to be, you know, in
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  Speaker 10: a given game versus a specific opponent? And those are
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  Speaker 10: the things you don't know for sure. And it's very
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  Speaker 10: hard to know the answer to that. And sometimes, you know, obviously,
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  Speaker 10: if all of a sudden week one, and obviously it's
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  Speaker 10: a big matchup, it's a Super Bowl rematch, you know,
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  Speaker 10: let's say it doesn't work out great. I'm sure a
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  Speaker 10: lot of people are immediately going to rip Brian Flurry.
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  Speaker 10: And that, you know, that's just, coaches know that that's
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  Speaker 10: the nature of the business. But, you know, and that's
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  Speaker 10: why watching the tape for me is so important because
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  Speaker 10: sometimes plays don't work, not because it's a bad call,
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  Speaker 10: but because maybe the, you know, the right guard just
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  Speaker 10: missed a block and they had a big play that
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  Speaker 10: was there, but the right guard missed a block or, well,
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  Speaker 10: you know, you never know the reasons until you really
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  Speaker 10: see the tape in detail. But to me, it comes
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  Speaker 10: down to, the specific way he goes about game planning
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  Speaker 10: specific opponents, and then the calls within a given game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hugh, your friend Hugh Millen and I were talking
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  Speaker 1: about this a couple weeks ago, and one of the
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  Speaker 1: things he's looking for is tempo and things like that
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  Speaker 1: and all those things. And until you get into a
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  Speaker 1: real game, you don't know. We spent the offseason hearing
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  Speaker 1: a lot up here in Seattle, not about the Seahawks title,
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  Speaker 1: but about what the Rams are doing. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to get to that now, but what I want to
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  Speaker 1: do is I'll let maybe you can kind of wax
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  Speaker 1: poetically and in your own way about what you see
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  Speaker 1: in the film. about a couple guys that we're expecting
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  Speaker 1: big things from again this season. And I'll just talk.
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  Speaker 1: We just saw Hard Knocks. It just finished up. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you watched it, but all the Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: fans did. One of the overriding themes was Jackson Smith
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  Speaker 1: and Jigba, the route runner that he is. They did
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  Speaker 1: a graphic one, so it looked like he's like 18
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba's running around. But who and what
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba was and the chemistry he had
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  Speaker 1: with Sam Darnold last season. And that's something that Brian
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  Speaker 1: Fleury inherits. You watched all the Sam Darnold tape. You've
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  Speaker 1: watched all the JSN tape. What is it about those
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  Speaker 1: two guys that was just so magical last year and
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  Speaker 1: maybe separates them from some other combinations?
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  Speaker 10: Well, you know, it's funny. I mean, look, we know
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  Speaker 10: Smith and Jig was a great player. I don't think
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  Speaker 10: I'm going to add to that. I mean, obviously he's
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  Speaker 10: got unbelievable route quickness and separation quickness and a little
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  Speaker 10: more vertical juice than people probably thought when he came
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  Speaker 10: out of Ohio State. But You know, I watched a
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  Speaker 10: ton of Sam Darnold over the last couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 10: probably 250 dropbacks from a year ago. And to me,
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  Speaker 10: the Seahawks pass game was an outstanding mix of scheme
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  Speaker 10: and talent. Darnold's a really high level thrower. And I
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  Speaker 10: thought the route concepts and combinations really did an excellent
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  Speaker 10: job of presenting clean, defined reads and throws, even when
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  Speaker 10: Darnold needed to work through progressions. And I thought he
• 15:46
  Speaker 10: did a really good job with that. But obviously, you know,
• 15:49
  Speaker 10: we talked about this during the season that two years ago,
• 15:52
  Speaker 10: Smith and Jigba played predominantly in the slot. Last year,
• 15:55
  Speaker 10: he played close to 80% as an outside receiver. So
• 15:59
  Speaker 10: he really can do anything that you ask him to do. So,
• 16:03
  Speaker 10: you know, there's no issue with Smith and Jigba. I
• 16:05
  Speaker 10: just think that, and again, this gets back to, you know,
• 16:08
  Speaker 10: Brian Flurry to some extent, but I just thought, you know,
• 16:11
  Speaker 10: what they did in the games with their concepts was so,
• 16:15
  Speaker 10: so good. Now the concepts won't change. because, you know,
• 16:19
  Speaker 10: as I said, it's the same sort of school and
• 16:21
  Speaker 10: philosophy of offense from Kubiak to Fleury. But I thought
• 16:25
  Speaker 10: the Seahawks pass game was really well-schemed, well-designed. Darnold is
• 16:31
  Speaker 10: a fun watch. Now, again, you know, I have a
• 16:34
  Speaker 10: certain view of the quarterback position that comes from a
• 16:36
  Speaker 10: lot of years of experience and a lot of, you know,
• 16:39
  Speaker 10: being taught by people smarter than I. But to me,
• 16:43
  Speaker 10: that's That's what a quarterback looks like. I mean, he's big.
• 16:46
  Speaker 10: He's 6'4. He's 225. He throws the ball really well.
• 16:51
  Speaker 10: One thing that constantly stood out to me watching Darnold,
• 16:55
  Speaker 10: I thought he did an excellent job marrying his eyes
• 16:57
  Speaker 10: and his feet when he worked through progressions. You know,
• 17:00
  Speaker 10: so many quarterbacks, when they work through progressions, they end
• 17:03
  Speaker 10: up throwing a little off balance. They don't step to
• 17:06
  Speaker 10: their throws. I thought he did a really, really good.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Job with that. I love that. Greg Cosell joining us
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: weekly visit. Love having Greg on every week. Seahawks offense
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: largely intact from a year ago. They'll have Rashid Shahid,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: who's a lot more a part of the offense. He
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: never really kind of got acclimated to that part of it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: We believe Torrey Horton will be okay at some point.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: We think he might even be ready for Wednesday. Who
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: knows what's going to happen there. It's a familiar matchup.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: When did you think you'd ever.
• 17:36
  Speaker 10: Say that he'd be ready for Wednesday? Did you ever
• 17:38
  Speaker 10: think you'd be saying that about an NFL game?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Greg, I mentioned this last week or maybe earlier this week.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Of all my years covering this team and lucky enough
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: to go all across the country covering this team, I
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: thought I'd seen it all when I covered a game
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday night football in L.A. in SoFi in I
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: think it was 2021. Tuesday night football. I thought that
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: was odd. Now we have Wednesday night football. So, no,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I never thought we'd have that. I never thought we'd
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: have that.
• 18:09
  Speaker 10: Can I mention one player on the Seahawks offense that
• 18:12
  Speaker 10: I think is such a glue player?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Let me ask. Let me guess. Is it A.J.
• 18:18
  Speaker 11: Barner?
• 18:20
  Speaker 10: Yes, it is. The more I watch their offense, like
• 18:25
  Speaker 10: I said, the great thing about the offseason is I
• 18:27
  Speaker 10: can sit and watch 250 dropbacks by Darnold over the
• 18:31
  Speaker 10: course of a couple of days. I can't do that
• 18:33
  Speaker 10: during this season when I have to get through as
• 18:34
  Speaker 10: many games as possible.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:37
  Speaker 12: A.J.
• 18:37
  Speaker 10: Bonner, to me, is one of those glue guys. Like,
• 18:41
  Speaker 10: you know, he's not going to catch 80 balls. He's,
• 18:43
  Speaker 10: you know, probably not a lot of people around the
• 18:46
  Speaker 10: league know who he is. They might know him because
• 18:48
  Speaker 10: the Seahawks won the Super Bowl so that, you know,
• 18:50
  Speaker 10: they've seen him on TV. But, you know, I just
• 18:53
  Speaker 10: think he's a really, really important piece. He lined up
• 18:57
  Speaker 10: as an attached tight end on about 80% of his snaps.
• 19:01
  Speaker 10: He's really important in the run game. He's kind of
• 19:04
  Speaker 10: a an interesting player in the past game. Like I said,
• 19:07
  Speaker 10: he's not going to get 100 targets, but it's not
• 19:10
  Speaker 10: as if he's a non-factor in the past game.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: How about that? We must have been doing this for
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: a long time if I was able to guess that
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: out of 11 guys, huh? Are you impressed?
• 19:20
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I just think he's a really, really solid... You know, look,
• 19:24
  Speaker 10: every team... it's kind of a shame what happened to
• 19:27
  Speaker 10: Jake Bobo because I remember seeing when Bobo and, and,
• 19:30
  Speaker 10: and hard knocks when Mike, I think it was Mike,
• 19:33
  Speaker 10: was it Mike McDonald or was it someone else?
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I might've been his coach. Yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: It was the receivers coach.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 19:41
  Speaker 10: And, you know, and then he was talking to him
• 19:43
  Speaker 10: just about that, that you're a glue guy and you're
• 19:45
  Speaker 10: so important to the team. And then unfortunately tears up
• 19:48
  Speaker 10: his knee and he's done for the season. But, every
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: team needs guys like that. You know, we all talk
• 19:53
  Speaker 10: about the Darnolds, the Smith and Jigbiz, you know, the
• 19:55
  Speaker 10: stars on defense, and they've got a lot of them.
• 19:57
  Speaker 10: But every team needs those kinds of players. They're really
• 20:02
  Speaker 10: important players. And everybody in the locker room, the coaching
• 20:05
  Speaker 10: staff in the building knows who those players are.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: That's why they paid him, and he was going to
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: be on this team and our best go out. He's
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: one of our favorites in the media. He's one of
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the best guys to talk to, and it's a sad
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: thing for him. Just real quick on New England. For
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: folks just tuning in, normally on a Friday, we would
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: be previewing a game on a Sunday and going through
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the opponent and really kind of doing that. We're not
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: doing that today. It's more of a kind of a
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: preview of the Hawks. Same matchup as the Super Bowl.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Are we going to see, do you think, a similar
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: team that we saw on defense from the Patriots in
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl?
• 20:39
  Speaker 10: Knowing Mike Rabel, and I have been around him at
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: Titans training camp when he coached there, you know that
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: he seethed all offseason because the thing that probably, going
• 20:48
  Speaker 10: beyond the X's and O's, what stood out to me,
• 20:51
  Speaker 10: particularly watching the tape, I mean, I was in the stadium, obviously,
• 20:54
  Speaker 10: but then coming back and watching the tape, what stood
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: out to me is that the Patriots on both sides
• 20:59
  Speaker 10: of the ball were physically beaten. I mean, the Seahawks
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: beat them up physically. And I'm not sure people expected that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: You know, it's one thing to, you know, Smith and
• 21:08
  Speaker 10: Jibgen making plays or, and obviously he didn't make a
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: ton of plays in that game, but the game didn't
• 21:12
  Speaker 10: require it. You know, it's one thing if those kinds
• 21:16
  Speaker 10: of things happen where great athletes make great plays, but
• 21:19
  Speaker 10: they were physically handled on both sides of the ball.
• 21:22
  Speaker 10: And that's normally not what happens to a Mike Grable team.
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: So you know that That's something that I guarantee from
• 21:28
  Speaker 10: the day the schedule came out that has been talked
• 21:31
  Speaker 10: about in that Patriots building. And, again, my guess is
• 21:36
  Speaker 10: the game won't play out exactly that way. You know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: I'm not a predictor of games, as you know, Ian.
• 21:40
  Speaker 10: I'm not going to sit here and say, well, who's
• 21:42
  Speaker 10: going to win and all that. I don't do that
• 21:43
  Speaker 10: because there's so many variables. But I guess I'd probably
• 21:47
  Speaker 10: be surprised if it was a physical mauling the way
• 21:50
  Speaker 10: the Super Bowl was.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I would agree. This is Greg Cosell joining us. Other
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: side of the football. By and large, Seattle pretty intact
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: from last season on the defense. They lose Reek Wollin.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're a little thin at that cornerback position. They
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: got Julian Neal, a rookie, and Avery Smith, the kid
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: they picked up from the Chargers. But they lose Kobe Bryant.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: But they honestly probably– I know you like Ty Okada
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: and Julian Love back there. We think Nick Imanuola.
• 22:19
  Speaker 10: It would happen to Bud Clark, though, because I like
• 22:21
  Speaker 10: his tape a lot. I'm sure he would have gotten snaps.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: That defense, they do add Dante Fowler on the front.
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what juice he has left in
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: the tank, but we'll see. But what is it about
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: the Mike McDonald defense? You watched 32 defenses around the league,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: and you're watching tape on all 32. What separates the
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald defense from the other 31?
• 22:44
  Speaker 10: You know, it's a fascinating point because they're a defense
• 22:47
  Speaker 10: that's not necessarily like a heavy blitz defense. You know, that's–
• 22:51
  Speaker 10: That's not the way they play. And I did look
• 22:55
  Speaker 10: at them this offseason as well because I was just
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: really curious. Here's what stood out to me. I thought
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: on third down, and I think they were the number
• 23:04
  Speaker 10: one third down defense in the league.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Is that correct?
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: I thought on third down, and that's such a critical
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: down in this league, as you know. I mean, they
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: had a lot of things that stood out as I
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: kept watching play after play. So there's certain tactics. They
• 23:21
  Speaker 10: lined up what we call loaded fronts pretty much consistently
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: on third down, meaning they had three defensive linemen to
• 23:28
  Speaker 10: one side of the offensive center. And then they stunt.
• 23:30
  Speaker 10: They were a high percentage stunt defense with their defensive line.
• 23:35
  Speaker 10: And what they did is they changed their coverage look
• 23:38
  Speaker 10: from pre-snap to post-snap. They were really, really good at
• 23:42
  Speaker 10: dropping D linemen out into underneath coverage, which was foundational
• 23:47
  Speaker 10: to many of their coverage to their pressure concepts, and
• 23:50
  Speaker 10: that can cause problems for quarterbacks. And don't forget, in
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: a game of milliseconds, that's a big deal, because if
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: the quarterback just for a second feels like he's uncertain,
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: that's a big deal. They were very multiple on third
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: and long with their pass rush tactics and their changing
• 24:07
  Speaker 10: coverage looks on the second level and on the back end.
• 24:11
  Speaker 10: And then, of course, when Witherspoon came back from injury,
• 24:14
  Speaker 10: I think it was week nine, they played dime on
• 24:16
  Speaker 10: more than 25% of their snaps. And that became kind
• 24:19
  Speaker 10: of foundational to the way they played. It was the
• 24:22
  Speaker 10: third highest percentage in the league. But I got to
• 24:25
  Speaker 10: tell you, another player, we talked about A.J.
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: Bonner.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: There's a player on defense.
• 24:29
  Speaker 10: And I actually had this conversation with a very good
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: friend of mine who's a scout on a team in
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: the league. And he was tasked this offseason with evaluating
• 24:37
  Speaker 10: every starting corner in the league. You know, that's what
• 24:40
  Speaker 10: teams do. They ask their scouts to do those kinds
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: of things in the offseason. And he validated what I thought.
• 24:47
  Speaker 10: And I didn't tell him what I thought. I asked him, hey,
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: who are the guys in your study that were not
• 24:51
  Speaker 10: the obvious guys that really stood out to you? And
• 24:54
  Speaker 10: one of the first names he said was Josh Jobe.
• 24:58
  Speaker 10: And you know, beginning two years ago, he and I
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: started talking about Josh Jobe and how good he was.
• 25:03
  Speaker 10: And predominantly, he was playing in the nickel then as
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: an outside corner. And then he clearly beat out Wolin,
• 25:08
  Speaker 10: which is why Wolin's not there anymore. probably among other
• 25:12
  Speaker 10: reasons as well. But Josh Jobe is a really solid
• 25:16
  Speaker 10: NFL corner, and I'm not sure a lot of people
• 25:18
  Speaker 10: think about him that way, but he is an important
• 25:21
  Speaker 10: player in the context of this defense because one of
• 25:23
  Speaker 10: the things they do a lot of is they play
• 25:26
  Speaker 10: a lot out of a two-shell, two-high safety structure, and
• 25:30
  Speaker 10: they take that boundary safety because Jobe's the boundary corner
• 25:34
  Speaker 10: and They take that boundary safety and they basically what
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: we call poach him or bring him inside. So they
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: let Joe play what is essentially zero-man coverage with no
• 25:45
  Speaker 10: safety help. And there's no way Mike McDonald would let
• 25:48
  Speaker 10: him do that if he didn't think he could handle
• 25:50
  Speaker 10: that responsibility.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I wonder if that changes on Wednesday because last night, check,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the Patriots have a new wide receiver that we didn't
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: see in the Super Bowl who's pretty good, right?
• 26:00
  Speaker 13: A.J.
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: Brown, who's a boundary X. And that'll be interesting to
• 26:03
  Speaker 10: see what happens in that game because he'll be their
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: boundary X.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Will Campbell kind of had his issues against Seattle in
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: that game. And the Seahawks, I mentioned Fowler, they re-signed
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Derek Hall. They made the decision, Hall over Moffay, kind
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: of like Job over Wolin probably. They also re-signed a
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: guy by the name of Leonard Williams. You've heard of him,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: pretty good player. So that defensive front, you mentioned it,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: both sides of the line, that Super Bowl, the defensive
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: front for Seattle. Riley Mills, ladies and gentlemen, made his
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: appearance in the Super Bowl as well from Notre Dame.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: In studying a lot of these teams that play too
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: high shell as a foundation, and Seattle's one of them.
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: They're not in the Vic Fangio school, which most people
• 26:49
  Speaker 10: talk about with the too high safety structures, but Seattle
• 26:52
  Speaker 10: played predominantly out of a too high shell team. The
• 26:56
  Speaker 10: argument could be made that de-tackle has become one of
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: the most, if not the most important position for these defenses.
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: And I'll tell you why. Because now you're not, now
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: a safety is not in the box. So you have
• 27:10
  Speaker 10: one less gap player in the run game. So now
• 27:14
  Speaker 10: the de-tackles are absolutely critical. I mean, look at a
• 27:18
  Speaker 10: team like the Eagles, the money they just spent on
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter. Look at you mentioned Riley Mills,
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: who's now the fourth guy. You know, they have a
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: group of the tackle starting with Williams and Murphy who
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: are phenomenal. Murphy was had a great year and Williams
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: is Williams. And, you know, obviously, Jared Reed has been
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: a really solid NFL player for a lot of years.
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: And then Riley Mills, a player I really like coming
• 27:41
  Speaker 10: out of Notre Dame and then unfortunately tore his ACL
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: late in his last season. But they could have a
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: four-man rotation at D-tackle. But it all starts there because
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: now with one less player in the box, those D-tackles
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: are so, so critical in stopping the run, which obviously
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: Seattle does well.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Well, Greg, it's a good start for us because every
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Friday we will be checking in with you. Next Friday
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the game will have been played. So what we'll do
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: is we will recap what you saw a little bit
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: and look ahead to– But we'll kind of recap. And
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I think what I'm actually looking forward to, Greg, next Friday,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: is when we do discuss what you saw on Wednesday,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: is kind of getting a feel, maybe, I'm assuming in
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: a regular season game, you'll have a little better feel
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: for the Brian Flory offense after one game, too, right?
• 28:29
  Speaker 10: Without question. You know, look, we all understand Ian, that
• 28:35
  Speaker 10: preseason to coaches and players is so, so important. So,
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: so important. And believe me, I've been to camps throughout
• 28:42
  Speaker 10: my career, and the importance for these players is just astronomical.
• 28:46
  Speaker 10: So I am not downplaying it at all. Just for me,
• 28:49
  Speaker 10: as far as tactics and schematics and those kinds of things,
• 28:53
  Speaker 10: it doesn't help me as much. But for the players
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: and the coaches and their evaluation, I mean, it is absolutely.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Critical, clearly.
• 29:01
  Speaker 10: And it's these guys' lives. So I'm not downplaying it
• 29:04
  Speaker 10: at all.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: When's the first matchup show?
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: Well, I'm going to tell you I'm very excited about
• 29:11
  Speaker 10: it because now that ESPN and the NFL Network have merged,
• 29:15
  Speaker 10: I guess would be the right term, we're going to
• 29:17
  Speaker 10: be on six times on a lot of weeks starting
• 29:20
  Speaker 10: week one because we're going to have three airings on
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: ESPN and three airings on the NFL Network. So I
• 29:26
  Speaker 10: know people these days don't necessarily watch a lot of
• 29:28
  Speaker 10: shows when they're on. but there's so many more opportunities now.
• 29:32
  Speaker 10: Now you can obviously DVR it or whatever people do
• 29:36
  Speaker 10: these days, but the fact that we're going to be
• 29:38
  Speaker 10: on six times most weeks, I'm really pleased.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, if people want to see Greg Cosell's smiling
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: pretty face with makeup and a tie on, then make
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: sure you tune in and you'll get some good football
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: knowledge mixed in as well, right?
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: Well, I appreciate that, even though I do have a
• 29:52
  Speaker 10: face for radio, Ian, but thank you.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Jessamyn says hi, by the way. Jessamyn says hi. Oh, good. Good.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I say hi back, of course, always. You got to
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: text me. Say, make sure you tell Kosel I said hello. So, yeah,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: she just bailed on us, right, Anders? Anders, she just
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: bailed on us. Yeah, she did.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: She wanted to go to a more professional radio show.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Apparently that's what happened. Yeah. Listen, Greg, I'm thrilled to
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: have you back. You do a handful of these across
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: the country, and us here in Seattle Seahawk fans are
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: better off every week hearing from you, and thrilled to
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: have you back again this year, my friend. Thank you.
• 30:29
  Speaker 10: Oh, no, great to be back. Really looking forward to it. And,
• 30:33
  Speaker 10: you know, let's hope people remember. And I know it's
• 30:35
  Speaker 10: a new season. You never know what's going to happen.
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: But the Seahawks are Super Bowl champions until they play
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: a game.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: We've got to remind the rest of the national media
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: that because I think the Rams have already collected their Lombardi. Please.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I'll let Andrew wax on about that. Greg, thank you.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week after game one.
• 30:52
  Speaker 9: Thanks, guys.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Greg Cosell joining us here. We'll take a break.
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  Speaker 1: they will be open early, 9 a.m., Saturdays and Sundays
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: starting next weekend. Not this weekend. Starting next weekend. 11
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: o'clock tomorrow. Breakfast served all day.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's my favorite. When they do that, that's good stuff.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: May have actually had breakfast here earlier today, Anders.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Went with the touchdown. That would be eggs over easy.
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Sausage patties.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: I'm a huge breakfast food guy. I'm not going to lie.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Thick bacon.
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Hash browns. I substitute an extra thing of hash browns
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: instead of having toast.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Very healthy breakfast for me.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Well done.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Well done. Need a nap, but yeah, good stuff here.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: These guys do a great job as well. Good stuff
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: from Greg Cosell. The NFL season starting, as we were
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: joking on Wednesday, is still odd, but it does.
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: And.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I think it just ended a really important game for Seattle.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: A really important game for Seattle.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: I tell you, when Greg was talking about Mike Vrabel's
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: thought process with that, I think a lot of people,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: rightly so, thinking about the Rams, but this first game
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: kind of scares me a little bit. I could totally
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: see the Patriots wanting absolute revenge after what happened in February.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: They have a better team this year, no doubt. I'm
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: curious as to how they'll respond and if the Seahawks
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: will be ready. They've had a lot, not distractions, but
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl champs. You're going in with a target on
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: your back.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. That's a good point. And you
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: look ahead, they go New England, and then they've got
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: back-to-back road games, Arizona and Washington. I can guarantee you
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Washington's not going to be as bad as they were
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: last year.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Correct. I totally agree with that.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: That's just not going to be the case. 10 a.m.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: game on the 20th. But Arizona, that should be one
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: of your easiest games of the year. For sure.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to emphasize the word should. Should. It should be.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: We all know that place can be weird.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Very weird. So you've got to get off to a start,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: want to know. We talk about it every year on
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: this show, over and over and over again. People get
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: tired of it, I'm sure. The right-hand column in the
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: NFL is all that matters. Yes, it is. And you
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: cannot get past six or seven. Probably six. And if
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: you want to win the division, you can't get past
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: three or four.
• 34:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: That's just the way it is. With the division win
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: comes home field advantage. Without it, you're on the road
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: for the entire playoffs. We just talked about the Mariners
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: in the first segment today and what it's going to
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: take to get to the playoffs. What do we come
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: up with? 16-5, right? Maybe 16-5, 15-6 gets you to 500.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Think about that. Only six more losses on that right-hand column.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: When we come back, Interesting comments yesterday on the Softie
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Mahler-Richard L. Fane show. It's afternoons 3 to 7 here
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: on KJR if you haven't heard it. But interesting comments
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: from Mariner pitcher Bryce Miller. Team's kind of living in
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: the past. A little disturbing. We'll hear those next.
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: Now from the Star-Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR FM
• 35:02
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• 35:04
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• 35:06
  Speaker 1: first game of the series yesterday. The Athletics 7-4. Season-high
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: 18 strikeouts. More in a moment on that. Logan Gilbert
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: does go tonight for Seattle. Apple Cup Sunday, 1 o'clock
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: here on KJR. NFL Pro Football Hall of Fame made
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: sweeping changes to its selection process, including a significant reduction
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: in the number of selectors and the elimination of a
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: separate seniors category.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: Is that good for the Mike Holmgren hopes?
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: We think. We'll get more clarity on it Monday when
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Sandow jumps on with us. And then... Daquan Wright, Xavier Harris,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: cleared to return to college football after a court order
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: on Thursday, late Thursday in Alabama. They play for LSU.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Will they play this weekend?
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: It's quite a risk if you're LSU.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Might be a risky move, LSU Lane Kiffin. I don't
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: think he cares. And finally, Jacob Melanson, Kraken winger, has
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: signed a three-year contract extension to remain with the team. Actually,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: he was already under contract, but just an extension to
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: his final year, I believe, of his deal. Here we go.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: All right, we're back. It's the Oklahoma Casino Hotel. Ian Furness,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Anderson Hurst, back in the studio. Great to be at
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Hawks Peak, 60-plus TVs. It's a place to be watching
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: your college football this weekend, NFL in college next weekend,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: on through the college NFL seasons. Great spot here. The hotel, awesome.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: If you're a diehard fan and want to come up here,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: you know what? Get after it a little bit. Get
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: a room in the hotel. Beautiful hotel rooms. Get some food.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Have some fun. Make it a weekend. Enjoy your football.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: All here at the Oklahoma Casino and Hotel. SNOCasino.com to
• 36:36
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• 36:40
  Speaker 1: to some conversation about football, Danny O'Neill is going to
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: join us at 1.20. Rob rang at 2 p.m. today.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Let's wrap up the baseball real quick, shall we? We shall.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: We shall. Pre-game yesterday, Bryce Miller was on with Softee
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: and Fane. And Anders is going to play this sound,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: but I'm just going to let him play it, and
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: then we'll react to it on the other side. Go ahead.
• 37:05
  Speaker 14: Coming into this season and spring training and just about
• 37:09
  Speaker 14: every single meeting that we've had as a team up
• 37:12
  Speaker 14: until about a month ago, it was every single time,
• 37:16
  Speaker 14: you know, it comes up of, oh, you know, last
• 37:18
  Speaker 14: year we did this last year. We were in the
• 37:22
  Speaker 14: ALCS last year. We almost went to the world series.
• 37:25
  Speaker 14: And I think there comes a point where we recognize that,
• 37:30
  Speaker 14: you know, we had a good season last year and
• 37:32
  Speaker 14: we have expectations that we want to meet and but
• 37:36
  Speaker 14: there also comes a point where you've got to let
• 37:39
  Speaker 14: go of that. This is a new season. What we
• 37:41
  Speaker 14: did last year has nothing to do with what we
• 37:43
  Speaker 14: do this year, and we've just got to go out
• 37:46
  Speaker 14: there and play. It wouldn't have mattered if we were
• 37:49
  Speaker 14: in the World Series last year or not. That's not
• 37:51
  Speaker 14: going to change the results that we have this year,
• 37:54
  Speaker 14: and I think that's something that we kind of, as
• 37:58
  Speaker 14: a team, talked about in our last meeting was like,
• 38:02
  Speaker 14: all right, whatever happens, Our expectations were whatever happened last year,
• 38:06
  Speaker 14: it's done. We can't relive it. We're living now. We're
• 38:11
  Speaker 14: living in a new season with new difficulties and new opportunities.
• 38:18
  Speaker 14: It's time to move on and go out and win
• 38:23
  Speaker 14: today and win this series, win this month, and get
• 38:26
  Speaker 14: into the postseason and make a new story.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: What are you reading to that?
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: I think that's very wise, first of all, from Bryce Miller.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: And I think that kind of plays itself out on
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: the field. You can tell these guys I've said this
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: multiple times this year. This isn't what Bryce is saying,
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: but I'll take it a step further and say these
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: guys kind of just thought that they could show up
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: day after day and their talent would kind of show through.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: And they would end up winning the AL West. They
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: were listening to all the narratives that everyone was talking about.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: That the AL West wasn't good this year. And that
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: the Mariners were by far the most talented team in
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: the division. And they're kind of playing like that. And
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: the fact that we're now... Now it's go time. We've
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: got to figure out what we're doing and go on
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: a run here. That tells you that there wasn't any
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: sort of urgency for this year, in 2026, for the
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: majority of this team. That's how I kind of view
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: like they've been playing for.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: The entirety of the year as well. So, one one
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: thing i i agree and this whole living in the
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: it's also the kind of the theme of the organization
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: is to live in the past yeah like it's very
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: on brand yeah it's really is it's about as on
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: brand mariners as you can get 95 01 We're living
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: in the past. No organization that has done less lives
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: in the past and celebrates the past more than these guys.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: It's the reality of it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: It ticks me off.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, right, wrong, that's until you win a
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: World Series, that's what you have. But they do live
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: in the past, and this current team being haunted by that.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I would actually make an argument right now that living
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: in the past, including last year, at this particular time,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: may not be a bad thing. Because a year ago,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: in terms of the same number of games, they were
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: three and a half games out of first place. A
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: year ago right now.
• 40:25
  Speaker 9: That's right.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: And we all know how finished they ended up winning
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the division. Now, they were also sitting in a wild
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: card spot, comfortably in a wild card spot at that point.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: So it's a little bit different. You had two ways
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: to get in. It felt like, okay, maybe if you
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: don't win the division, you're going to get in Via
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: the wild card. That's not probably going to be the
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: case this season. But you're only a couple games behind
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: last year's pace. Right. In terms of where you were.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: So maybe living in the past has been haunting them
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: all year. But maybe now the message is, hey, we
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: were three and a half out last year at this
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: time with 21 to go.
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 40:59
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: So maybe that's okay. But it was when, you know,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I missed it live. I got in the car right
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: after an appointment. And Softie, I hear Softie talking about it.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I'm going, what? hell, we've got to talk to them
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: about this. I think it was right they had Jerry
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Brewer on afterwards and they talked about it. It's very
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: much living in the past. Very much living in the past.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: That's a hard thing to do. That's a hard thing
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: to be haunted by. I think part of that is
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: just the expectations were so high this season and rightfully so.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: They should have been high. Higher than they've ever been
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: for this organization. It doesn't erase anything. It this has
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: just been probably the most frustrating year from a fan standpoint,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: from what we hear from fans, and even friends that
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: we talk to, right? Would you agree? This is about
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: the most frustrating season of Mariner baseball that any of
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: us can remember.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Probably in my lifetime, to be honest.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: And yet they still have the opportunity to flip the script,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: change the narrative, turn it all around, softy term coming,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: wait for it, three, two, one.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: There's the wait for it, by the way.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I know. It's all in front of us. It's all
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: in front of them. How often do you hear them
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: say that? Yeah, it's a lot. Everything's in front of
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: you right now. I mean, it's true, though.
• 42:15
  Speaker 9: It's true.
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: But then you have a game like last night.
• 42:18
  Speaker 9: Like, really?
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: That was what we had last night?
• 42:21
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: After a big series in Boston where it feels like
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: the offense wakes up.
• 42:26
  Speaker 15: And, yeah.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: And the offense. I guess in a sense yesterday.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Not good enough. Absolutely not. No, you look at the
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: four runs and you're like, oh yeah, they were okay,
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: but as bad as the A's pitching is.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the thing with last night. This is what
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I would argue with last night is the following. You
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: got like the, and I think it was Ryan Healy
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: mentioned it on the broadcast and he was so true.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: He was so right. When you have that long coast
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: to coast trip and they had a, you know, not
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: to give an excuse, but they had that weird schedule
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: where Instead of playing a true day game, they put
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: it at 4 o'clock Boston time. Right. You know, like, what?
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: That's nice. That's nice. Thanks, schedule makers. Now, this is
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: the last thing that you can wait about the schedule
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: considering what they have left on their schedule. Nobody's got
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: a softer schedule. But the weird thing was they came
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: out and they scored three in the first. Like, they
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: got on top early. A's got the one. They come
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: back and take a 3-1 lead. And you're like, okay, well,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: we're good. Here we go. And then they didn't score
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: again until the sixth. And by then it was... too little,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: too late, because they gave up the... I mean, it
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: was a two-run game. They made it within one, and
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: then obviously what happened with the eighth and ninth with
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: the A's knocking them out. And then you talk about
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: some of the at-bats. Josh Naylor, 0 for 5 last night.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Cal Raleigh was 1 for 4 with two strikeouts. Naylor
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: had two strikeouts. I mean, everybody had a strikeout. They
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: had 18. I mean, Crawford's the only guy that didn't
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: strike out. But you look through the lineup, and there
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: were some guys you would expect more from. Julio, 1
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: for 4. Left a number of runners on base. Your
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: best players have to be your best players, and that
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: wasn't the case last night. Against, frankly, not a very
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: good baseball team. It's been that way all year long, Ian.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Besides Randy. Randy's the only one that you can say
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: has done his job offensively this year. Really.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: You can say Dom as well, but from your guys
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: that you expected going into the year to be playing
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: every single day and be a big part of this offense,
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Randy's the only one that can say that.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: That's just pathetic, man.
• 44:20
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: It's pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: But it's still something you can turn around. I'm going
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: to say that until it's over. Ian, stop it.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: I can't do it anymore, man.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I know everyone wants to jump ship. I know. But, guys,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: do the math. They're there. They're there. And they're not
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: competing against a juggernaut of a team. It's not like
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: they're in the same division as a dynasty big red
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: machine team or early 70s A's.
• 44:49
  Speaker 12: No.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: No. They're playing in this just absolutely mushy middle, meh,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: American League.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Meh.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Meh. What did they call it last year in the hockey?
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: The pillow fight that was the Pacific Division?
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: God, so true.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Well, this is worse.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: This is AOS, yeah.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: At least teams were above 500. That's true. Very true.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: That's not the case here. Anyway, good stuff. By the way,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: the interview with Bryce Miller was great yesterday.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he did a good job.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: He's a good interviewer. He's great on that front. So
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: you can go check that out, the podcast page for
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Softie and Fane, if you want to hear the whole thing. Okay.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: We'll take a break. We'll come back in a second.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: We've got to check in with Danny O'Neill. I should
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: mention 49451. That is the Tacoma Dodge text line, 49451.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Fire off your thoughts, your comments, your questions, concerns. Obviously,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: talkbacks are welcome as well. Boy, I'd like to hear
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: me a softie heading into the Apple Cup weekend, wouldn't you?
• 45:48
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't you like to hear softie?
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: Would love that.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Or Seattle Pacific alum, furious, I'm a husky, Feltz. Fire one, two.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Furious Feltz, FIFA Feltz.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Serious Feltz.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Serious Feltz.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Serious Feltz might have been the best one, right?
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I still like FIFA Feltz the best. FIFA Feltz.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: That was my favorite.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: FIFA makes me feel like there's something dirty going on
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: there because FIFA is corrupt. Jackson's right in the forefront
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: I just think it was his excitement for the World
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Cup coverage at the time was very palpable, I should say.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'd say borderline unhealthy, but that's just me. Fair enough.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: All right. Danny O'Neill, the dang apostrophe. He is standing by.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: We'll check with him coming up next.
• 46:37
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  Speaker 11: I'm good. How are you, Ian?
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I'm good. I hear you're going to the U.S. Open
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: at some point over the next few days out there
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: in New York City, Flushing Meadows, Long Island, the former
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: home of one Jessamyn McIntyre. I know it's a big
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: thing for my guy, Andrew. I'm not a tennis guy,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: but I know for a lot of people, even if
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: you're not a tennis person, it's a bucket list thing.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: What's that all about?
• 47:35
  Speaker 11: It's very fun.
• 47:37
  Speaker 16: When I'd never gone to a tennis tournament before, I
• 47:40
  Speaker 16: guess there had been one. I'm not sure what level
• 47:43
  Speaker 16: on the tour it was when I lived.
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: In California in high school.
• 47:46
  Speaker 16: But the first time I went to the U.S.
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: Open, it would have been 2021.
• 47:50
  Speaker 9: Actually, the first year that I went to the U.S.
• 47:54
  Speaker 16: Open, I was standing on the subway platform waiting to
• 47:58
  Speaker 16: take the 7 train back to Manhattan when I saw
• 48:00
  Speaker 16: that Montana had beaten the Huskies.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, God. Oh, God. All right.
• 48:06
  Speaker 11: I was coming back. I just watched.
• 48:08
  Speaker 16: It was the it was the women's final. Emma Raducanu
• 48:11
  Speaker 16: had played Layla Fernandez. And yeah, that was that was
• 48:15
  Speaker 16: very devastating.
• 48:16
  Speaker 11: I love it.
• 48:17
  Speaker 16: Watching tennis is really fun. It's a different sporting experience.
• 48:21
  Speaker 11: The and the.
• 48:23
  Speaker 16: Crowd's a little quieter, but people get a little rowdier
• 48:26
  Speaker 16: in New York and. You've just got all these matches
• 48:29
  Speaker 16: going on. So the first week really is my favorite
• 48:31
  Speaker 16: part of the tournament.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I love it. Well, have fun with that. Danny O'Neill
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: joining us. All right. Before we get to Seahawks and
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Mariners maybe and everything else, it's Apple Cup week. We're
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: supposed to hate each other. I hate you, Danny O'Neill.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I just hate you.
• 48:47
  Speaker 16: I felt there was a little tinge because we've talked
• 48:49
  Speaker 16: about this before. I'm one of those Huskies that feels
• 48:53
  Speaker 16: a lot of regret. and sadness over the departure from
• 48:57
  Speaker 16: the pac-12 and kind of really feel that it was
• 49:02
  Speaker 16: we abandoned the kooks and i know the i know
• 49:05
  Speaker 16: the rationale and the explanation right or right it you
• 49:08
  Speaker 16: had to do it for washington's sake it's the right
• 49:10
  Speaker 16: move but there was still just like it's it's it's
• 49:13
  Speaker 16: felt wrong but this year for the first time and
• 49:16
  Speaker 16: it was when the when the controversy started stirring up
• 49:20
  Speaker 16: about the band and where the Coug band was given tickets.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:23
  Speaker 16: And I felt a little flash of the old condescending
• 49:26
  Speaker 16: Husky in me, which was like, Oh, you guys could
• 49:29
  Speaker 16: work the stairs to be able to walk down for
• 49:31
  Speaker 16: the halftime show. It was, there was just, it was
• 49:33
  Speaker 16: a little glimmer of, Oh yeah, this is, that's how
• 49:36
  Speaker 16: we're supposed to feel this time of year. It, I,
• 49:40
  Speaker 16: I don't want to say I've accepted what's happened because
• 49:45
  Speaker 16: there's a big part of it that still makes me sad.
• 49:47
  Speaker 16: I do feel better about the game this year than
• 49:50
  Speaker 16: I have the past two years.
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: I feel better about that part.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? You feel better about
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: the game?
• 49:55
  Speaker 16: I feel the Cougs are in a better place. Last
• 49:58
  Speaker 16: year when this game was played, you're coming off the
• 50:02
  Speaker 16: North Texas game.
• 50:04
  Speaker 11: You've got a new coach, did not appear to know.
• 50:06
  Speaker 16: What he was doing when it came to picking a quarterback.
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: And it looked like the bottom was falling out.
• 50:11
  Speaker 11: And then to the Cougs credit, they rallied and were
• 50:15
  Speaker 11: really competitive.
• 50:17
  Speaker 16: In my mind, especially when you view what happened those
• 50:20
  Speaker 16: first couple games, how competitive they were at Ole Miss,
• 50:24
  Speaker 16: like really showed some starch. I think it's lame that
• 50:27
  Speaker 16: Jimmy Rogers left. And I think that's a reflection on him.
• 50:31
  Speaker 16: But I think the buyout and the money that came
• 50:33
  Speaker 16: from that and getting Kirby Moore, I feel like while
• 50:37
  Speaker 16: we don't know more about the Wazoo program necessarily because
• 50:41
  Speaker 16: it is a first-year coach, it feels to me that
• 50:43
  Speaker 16: Wazoo is in a much better place right now than
• 50:45
  Speaker 16: they were 12 months ago.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I think they're in a better place, and we wouldn't
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: have known because we had to have some context to
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: look back on. I think you're right. I think one
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: of the things with Rodgers, and I've had my say
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: about him on the air enough times, but wasn't invested,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: wasn't buying in, which is fine. And, you know, there's
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: stepping stone jobs all across the country. And that's just
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: the reality. I mean, there's very few schools that don't
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: have the ability to say, or that have the ability
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: to say, we're not a stepping stone school. Case in point,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Caitlin DeBoer took your school to the national championship game
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: and then left for a bigger program. There's almost always
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: a bigger program unless it's three or four programs in
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: the country. I didn't have a problem with Jimmy. I
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: had a problem with Jimmy Rogers, period. And you're right.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: He just wasn't. He was never invested. He was never
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: invested in anything Washington State. He had good enough players
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: still around left over from Dickert, brought a few guys
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: from South Dakota State. They were competitive, but it just, yeah,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: it was, I would say the thing, and I don't,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: our guys may get their doors blown off on Sunday.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I know this is a big point spread. Danny, I
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: think you're right. I think we're in a better spot
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: moving ahead. It may not show up at 1 o'clock
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: on Sunday at Husky Stadium against a ranked Washington team.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: It may not show up there, but I think long-term
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: we're better off. If nothing else, you can see the
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: retention that Kirby Moore had and guys not going down
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: to Iowa State with Jimmy Rogers. I think that says
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: all you need to see. I like Dickard, but Dickard
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: mailed in the second half of his last season. I
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: think Rogers did the same thing and That's hard, man.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: So hopefully we have a guy here for a couple years.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: And obviously Jed's third year with, you know, DeMond, whether
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: he wants to be here or not, it doesn't matter.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: It's an elite quarterback and good offensive line and really
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: good defense. I mean, I think there's good stuff down
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: the road for probably both programs.
• 52:38
  Speaker 16: Well, it'll be very interesting to see because Washington this
• 52:41
  Speaker 16: season should be positioned to, like, look, the idea of
• 52:45
  Speaker 16: go compete for a playoff spot, That wasn't realistic the
• 52:49
  Speaker 16: past couple years.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: No.
• 52:52
  Speaker 16: It is this year, and that'll be the expectation. And
• 52:54
  Speaker 16: then you talk about stepping stone jobs. Nobody knows what'll
• 52:57
  Speaker 16: happen after that. If they're as successful as people like
• 53:00
  Speaker 16: me hope, if they're able to win 10 games, if
• 53:02
  Speaker 16: they do get into the playoffs, what does that mean long-term?
• 53:04
  Speaker 11: I have no idea, but it should be. I'm excited
• 53:07
  Speaker 11: to watch it out. I will say.
• 53:10
  Speaker 16: I don't think there's going to be a lot of
• 53:11
  Speaker 16: patience with DeMond. If the score is 13-6 at halftime
• 53:15
  Speaker 16: and things haven't looked great, I think you might hear
• 53:18
  Speaker 16: some grumbles. I don't think there's going to be a
• 53:20
  Speaker 16: ton of patience with DeMond this year from the home crowd.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Daniel O'Neill joining us. As a Husky alum, what are
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: your feelings about Jed Fish?
• 53:32
  Speaker 16: I think that Jed has done a really good job
• 53:35
  Speaker 16: of rebuilding relationships or building relationships.
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: With the local high school programs.
• 53:41
  Speaker 16: I've really been impressed with that.
• 53:43
  Speaker 11: I think he's an exceptional recruiter.
• 53:46
  Speaker 16: I think he's done a really good job after walking
• 53:49
  Speaker 16: into a really tough situation. I don't know how, I
• 53:56
  Speaker 16: think he has bigger expectations of what kind of support
• 54:01
  Speaker 16: he should be getting than he might ever get at Washington.
• 54:05
  Speaker 16: I think that that and look, that's a that's a
• 54:08
  Speaker 16: fair question of what does it take to compete in
• 54:10
  Speaker 16: the Big Ten? I think that I think that Jed's
• 54:14
  Speaker 16: got a pretty big vision for what it would take
• 54:17
  Speaker 16: for Washington to do that. And I like and approve
• 54:21
  Speaker 16: of the job he's done. I'm not sure how long
• 54:24
  Speaker 16: it's going to last here. And I might might turn
• 54:26
  Speaker 16: out to be wrong when they took that huge first
• 54:28
  Speaker 16: step forward in Kalen DeBoer's first year. and you saw
• 54:32
  Speaker 16: a lot of money step up in terms of NIL
• 54:35
  Speaker 16: support for Penix and Roma Dunze and Troy Paotano. They
• 54:39
  Speaker 16: kept a lot of guys after that season, and maybe
• 54:42
  Speaker 16: there's a similar uptick here, but my honest feeling as
• 54:47
  Speaker 16: a Husky fan is that if it goes as well
• 54:51
  Speaker 16: as everybody hopes it might this year, that you very
• 54:54
  Speaker 16: well might see a similar situation where he ends up
• 54:57
  Speaker 16: somewhere else, and I don't I kind of accept that
• 55:01
  Speaker 16: as the nature of contemporary college football. And that's what
• 55:04
  Speaker 16: Washington has signed up for by going to.
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: The, to, to the big 10. Like this is, they
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: were part.
• 55:10
  Speaker 16: Of that decision and this is the little big bank
• 55:14
  Speaker 16: take little bank world that's there. But I think he's
• 55:16
  Speaker 16: done a really good job and I think he has
• 55:19
  Speaker 16: some pretty high expectations.
• 55:20
  Speaker 11: And to be honest, I don't think is entirely happy.
• 55:23
  Speaker 16: With how much the infrastructure support and the funding and
• 55:26
  Speaker 16: the level of, of, of, just money that they have
• 55:30
  Speaker 16: available for players.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I think it's a, it's the dynamic on the West coast,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: as opposed to the Southeast, for example, or even some
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: of the upper Midwest schools, it's just a different feel,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: you know, in terms of what you're going to do for,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: you know, for the program in terms of finances and,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: you know, the ones that Texas tech or Oregon that
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: have true whales, like one whale that supports the whole thing.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: That's one thing it's, it's, but there's this, it's inherent
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: in the, in the culture in your, in your society
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: or community, in the area of the region you're in that,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: you know, like what, Schools like ours, honestly, it's probably
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: the one thing they have in common is you're, you
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: played in the pack 10. I'll use that for example.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: I don't even want to think about the 12, but
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: let's just think about the pack 10. You played in
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: the pack 10 and you recruited kids from your own state.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: And then you got whatever's left over in California from USC, right?
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: That's what you did. And you were always good enough
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: to compete with pretty much everybody in the country. maybe
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: not win national championships on a regular basis, but you
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: were always in the top 25 and you were one
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: of those programs. And all it costs the fan, Danny,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: all it costs the fan was season tickets and maybe
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: a seat license or a parking pass, right? That's what
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: it cost you as a fan. And you were good
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: with that. And maybe you donated to the athletic fund,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: but that was probably in the form of a seat license.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: So you sat at the 40 as opposed to the
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: 10-yard line. Well, as we all know, things have changed.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: And I don't think we've evolved on the West Coast
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: enough And let's be honest, Oregon gets a lot of
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: credit for having all the money. No, they've got Phil Knight.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: You know, like that's the thing. We're just not used
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: to spending money to support our football program as opposed
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: to a place, even Texas Tech, right? It's Texas. I mean,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: the dude that's supporting Texas, Campbell, whatever his name is,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech, he probably sat there and he probably built
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: like three high school stadiums so his kids could play
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: him Steve Ballmer-like, right? I mean, so that's just a
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: different way of thinking, I guess, is my long-winded way
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: of saying that I give a little bit of a
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: pass to whether it be Husky fans or anybody else
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: on the West Coast, because we're just not used to that.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: We weren't handing out, well, Tosh LaPoi was. But outside
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: of Tosh and his $ 100... His $ 100 Styrofoam cup. We
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: weren't used to doing that. Or Billy Joe playing golf
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: out at the old Tyee course and getting money for it. Like,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: by and large, we weren't handing out money to, you know,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: boosters weren't handing out money as the kids were walking
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: through into the locker room.
• 57:42
  Speaker 16: As someone who has, since the time I've been in school,
• 57:45
  Speaker 16: said I will willingly take two years of probation for
• 57:48
  Speaker 16: a Rose Bowl, I tend to see cheating as somewhat
• 57:52
  Speaker 16: endemic and a part of college football that I don't
• 57:55
  Speaker 16: know if you're ever going to flush completely out and
• 57:57
  Speaker 16: there are cultural differences in different parts of the country
• 58:01
  Speaker 16: about how that has happened and gone about i do
• 58:04
  Speaker 16: like the idea of balmer though because he might have
• 58:06
  Speaker 16: some time on his hands maybe we could get him i.
• 58:09
  Speaker 13: Would have absolutely no complaints to have someone like look
• 58:13
  Speaker 13: man you're not going to have an adam silver breathing
• 58:16
  Speaker 13: down your neck pablo torre isn't going to come out
• 58:18
  Speaker 13: of here and do any sort of podcast i i
• 58:20
  Speaker 13: think what you say what you say is right and
• 58:23
  Speaker 13: It's very interesting to see what has happened.
• 58:26
  Speaker 16: Texas Tech and Indiana are two schools who have vaulted
• 58:30
  Speaker 16: themselves toward the top. And in the case of Texas Tech,
• 58:34
  Speaker 16: that has really been through the donations of Cody Campbell.
• 58:38
  Speaker 16: He has upped the amount of money that's available. We'll
• 58:41
  Speaker 16: see if they have a quarterback this year. They certainly
• 58:44
  Speaker 16: tried to fix their problem with quarterback, but that became
• 58:46
  Speaker 16: an issue in and of itself. Indiana is a school
• 58:51
  Speaker 16: that When they hired Kurt Cignetti, I think people that
• 58:54
  Speaker 16: knew football thought that was a really good hire, but
• 58:56
  Speaker 16: it wasn't this sort of game changing. They went and
• 59:00
  Speaker 16: dropped a million dollars, millions upon millions of dollars to
• 59:03
  Speaker 16: get the best coaching prospect. Now, with the success they've experienced,
• 59:07
  Speaker 16: you've seen an uptick in the donations and now you have.
• 59:10
  Speaker 16: Mark Cuban tied in there, but you also have Kurt
• 59:12
  Speaker 16: Cignetti didn't want to go.
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: To a different job.
• 59:15
  Speaker 16: Like he, yes, he is extremely highly paid at his
• 59:18
  Speaker 16: job and where he is, but he also didn't say
• 59:20
  Speaker 16: I'm going to go and get to the biggest flashiest
• 59:23
  Speaker 16: place I can because like Kalen DeBoer did. And there's
• 59:27
  Speaker 16: part of me, like maybe Jed will ultimately see Washington
• 59:30
  Speaker 16: as this is the place that I can win a
• 59:32
  Speaker 16: national championship. He also might be more along the lines
• 59:35
  Speaker 16: of other coaches and I'm not begrudging him because if
• 59:38
  Speaker 16: you sign up to go to a place with more resources,
• 59:41
  Speaker 16: ask Kalen DeBoer about the additional scrutiny or the fairness
• 59:44
  Speaker 16: of that.
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: Scrutiny that you face.
• 59:46
  Speaker 16: There's a part of college football that is now, it
• 59:50
  Speaker 16: resembles the NFL in some ways, And then in other ways,
• 59:53
  Speaker 16: not at all. Because the one thing that you don't
• 59:55
  Speaker 16: have in the NFL is people don't go poaching coaches.
• 59:58
  Speaker 16: That doesn't happen. And that absolutely happens in college football.
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• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: say it's pro football and all this kind of stuff
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: every morning. There's a great I think it was with
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: the ball brothers. Max Crosby was on with them a
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago and he was just killing kids going,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I got these dudes coming into the locker room. Now
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: they went to four schools in five years. They thought
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: they were pros as an 18 year old freshman. That's
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: not pro football. And he went on and on and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: he's right. It's not pro football. And one of the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: reasons is what he was saying that, you know, like
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: I can't trust a teammate that's going, you know, always
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: looking for something else. Right. But in college, that's what
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: it is. You're always looking for the next best thing.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: And the coach is getting poached. Like, A contract besides
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: the buyout money for the school means nothing in college football.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Washington enforced a contract with DeMond last year, and that's
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: the first contract. Honest to God, I feel like, Danny,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: that's the first and only contract I've seen in college
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: football that was ever enforced or mattered. And you don't
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: have that in the NFL. You don't have guys– Mike McDonald's–
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Jerry Jones isn't calling Mike McDonald in the middle of
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: the season saying, hey, man, are you interested in coming here?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: And then Mike McDonald mailing in the second half of
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: the season like, I've seen it happen twice with Dickerton Rogers.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: That doesn't happen, right? But it does in college football.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: They're so different. I'm glad you brought that up because
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: if Jed has a great year and people want to
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: get him, they're going to have to wait. They're going
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: to have to wait. Well, except for they don't because
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: of college football. Away you go. He might have the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Florida job before he plays in a college football playoff game.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 16: It is one of the ways, and there are many
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 16: ways in which college football coaches can be breathtakingly hypocritical,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 16: but As that sport moves in the direction it is,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 16: I absolutely believe that you need to have contracts that
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 16: are enforceable. And there's nothing stopping those from happening other
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 16: than the power that college coaches and their agents or
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 16: the one super agent in Jimmy Sexton wield in saying like, no,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 16: it needs to have the flexibility to be able to
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 16: get out of it.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: And I think that's a pretty unsustainable system. We'll see.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 6: Maybe it continues to function there.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 16: But college coaches wanting to have that flexibility whilst then
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 16: trying to tamp down the ability of players to transfer.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 11: And then, oh, by the way, they're also going to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 11: be clamoring.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 16: This SEC fight over whether guys who've been drafted into
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 16: the NFL or signed professional contracts should be able to
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 16: play is one of the single most.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: Hilarious fights ridiculous things.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 16: And the latest news, the fact that the SEC is
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 16: going to sue LSU over its attempts to do that
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 16: is just, it epitomizes how insane the entire system is.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: It is nuts, is it not? Danny O'Neill joining us
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: for a couple more moments. You wrote a column this week.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: I love, I'll always love how you tie things together.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Expired milk and Jason Myers. Well done.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: Well done.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 16: I'd feel a little bad because I like Jason Myers.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 16: I do, but I do tend to feel like once
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 16: a kicker goes bad, like you can't wait for him
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 16: to like fix himself.
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  Speaker 6: You, it has to be like spoiled milk.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 11: You need to toss it.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 16: And as you sit there and I do this sniff
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 16: in the milk carton to see like, Oh, is it
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 16: still good?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 11: And you're like, ah, it smells kind of sour, but
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 11: maybe it's just my mind.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe it'll really be okay.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 16: The longer you spend, sitting there sniffing and trying to
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 16: figure it out, the more that's telling you, you should
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 16: just toss it and go on your way.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm with you.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 16: That last field goal he missed against, I know it's
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 16: the preseason, but God, that wasn't even close.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Wasn't close. So I think I can speak about this.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I know it happens during practice and we're not supposed
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: to report during, but like one of the, a couple,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: at least twice, when we were doing shows out at
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: the Virginia Mason Athletic Center, and this was like, they
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: would bring the, the, the, and you know, where we sat,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: you know, where you guys used to sit that, that
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: area right next to the wall.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: And there was one day I'm sitting there and it
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: actually happened more than once, but the one day really
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: stood out. Those were watching, they brought the goalposts right
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: down to that kind of the Northwest, Northeast corner, I guess,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: kind of close to like right between where the two
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: radio stations are. And, and they were just the three
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: specialists were there. and Myers was kicking field goals. And
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: no word of a lie, Danny, I think he missed
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: like 10 straight. I said to Anders down the line,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, God, he must be working on something. He's
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: got to be working on something. This has got to
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: be the golfer on the driving range. It just looks awful,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: but there's a reason because you're doing this or that.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: And it was just like miss, miss, miss.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: Almost one almost hit me. It was missed so bad. Whoa.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Like what's going on here. And then all of a
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: sudden he goes out in the preseason. He's awful. Like
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: he wasn't just Kansas city game. It was a couple,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: like he missed a few and I'm like, what the
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: hell's going on here. And so I'm glad you wrote
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: that because I don't think there's a more fickle thing
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: in sports than the kicker. And I'm glad you mentioned
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: it because I know they can say like McDonald can
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: profess his, his confidence in him after the game, but
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: He goes out there against the Patriots and is like
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: one for three on field goals or misses a couple.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: There's going to be guys in the VMAC on Monday.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: They're going to be trying dudes out. Hey, we love
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: what you did in the playoffs. Super Bowl, that was great.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: You're not good enough anymore. It's crazy.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it is.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 16: And it's just this exceedingly important position, especially.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: In the NFL. Yes, in today's NFL.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 9: It is volatile.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: It's one of the spots where.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 16: You can go from being really good to all of
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 16: a sudden you kind of just can't get out of
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 16: your own way. And then I'm definitely of the belief
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 16: that it gets in everybody's head, including the kicker. And
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 16: when that happens, I mean, it's I just remember how
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 16: much I enjoyed. kyle shanahan's reaction last week all week
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 16: one yeah when nick moot missed that field goal because
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 16: that was a guy they drafted in the third round
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 16: they stuck with him the whole.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Year moody yeah jake moody yeah jake yeah jake moody
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: yeah that was well he yeah oh god he lost
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: his mind.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 11: And then i'm like a year later i'm wondering if.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 16: It's gonna be the exact same thing maybe i shouldn't
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 16: have laughed so hard but I think all signs are
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 16: that Jason Myers is going to be the kicker, so
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 16: we're all just going to cross our fingers, plug our nose,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 16: and hope the milk is good.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: I'm just looking through because, I mean, as great as
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Hauschka was, right? Let's see. He missed four his last
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: year in Seattle. And I think it just came down,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: but that was, yeah, it was, yeah, he missed four.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: But he still made 89%. Went to Buffalo, had one
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: good year in Buffalo, and then it just dropped off.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: He was sub-80% his last two years in Buffalo with
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: the Bills was Hauschka. And that's not good in today's NFL.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: And so, like, right? Like, that's not good.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 16: I remember Pete talking about it, where they're like, the
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 16: ball's just coming out so low.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: Like, he didn't like how it was. And then there
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: was that 6-6 tie.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, God. The worst game in the history of man
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: in Arizona. That was awful. Yes.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 16: And Hauschka had a tough time kicking in Arizona.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: He didn't like Arizona.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 6: No, he did not.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: But, God, he just hooked that last one.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 16: And I guess afterward, he was talking, and I heard
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 16: this secondhand, but he was explaining how something about the footing.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 16: And John Ryan just looked at him and goes, dude,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 16: you didn't even hit the net.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was bad. John Ryan, true speaker. You know
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: the red flag for Hauschka now that I look at it?
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: He missed six extra points his last year in Seattle.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 11: Yep.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: That was it. Thanks for coming. That's the coal in
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: the canary mine, man. That is the coal in the canary.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go. What do you guys got going?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Tell me about the dang apostrophe.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 11: It is a newsletter that originates out of New York City.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 16: I can guarantee next week I'm writing about the shame
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 16: stickers that get affixed to cars. for breaking parking rules.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 16: They've started putting stickers on cars here in New York.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 16: It should be pretty funny. And I've got a sports
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• 1:08:33
  Speaker 16: and I will send you periodic missives from the city
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 16: that supposedly never sleeps.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: The thing here in Seattle now in our area is
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: everyone rides around, even if your kids are graduated or infants,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: saying they have these stickers on their cars that say,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: student driver, please be patient. And I'm like, no, you're
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: just a bad driver. You're trying to give yourself an
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: excuse because you're a bad driver. You don't have a
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: student driver. It's either that or baby on board. Baby
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: on board and you're like seven. years old and you're
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: not a grandparent. Yeah, like shut up.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: Stop it.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Leave me alone.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Have a great time at the U.S. Open. We'll talk soon.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 9: Sounds great.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: Take care of you.
• 1:09:08
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• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: because a couple things I want to hit on. Not
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: normally something we would do until training camp starts this
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: time of year. With football going on, we're going to
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: hit a couple things. One, we mentioned this in the headlines,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: Jacob Melanson signed a contract extension. High energy guy, try
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: hard guy, fourth liner that you just, you want those
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: kind of guys on your team. And he's going to be,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: you know, Greg Cosell talked in the noon hour about
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: wanting guys like Jake Bobo on your team. Like there's certain,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: you know, those glue guys, however you want to call it.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: You want to have those guys on. So Mellie, good
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: for him. Signed a three-year extension. He'll be here for
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: a few more years. Gives them a little juice, a
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: little jam that sometimes they were lacking. So good for him.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: The other thing came out today. I just want to
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: hit on this real quick. Emerald City Spectrum, Josh Frogelund,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: who's the Kraken writer for Corbin's site, Emerald City Spectrum,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: had a story with the agent for Shane Wright today.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: basically saying he's committed to Seattle, we'll see what happens, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: He pointed out again that Kurt Overhart's the agent for
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Shane Wright. Remember the story, Anders? The Kraken had promised
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: to move him this summer and all these things. And
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: I've told you this, I'm going to say it again.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: That is 100% not true.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 9: False.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: They never said, we promise we are going to trade you.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: No GM in any sport would promise that and make
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: it public for the agent to say that because what happens?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: No juice.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: No juice.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: No leverage. Nothing. And not like Shane had a big
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: trade market anyway. He hasn't lived up his potential. So
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: he's here to start the season. He could get traded.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: He could get traded. He could get traded. But if
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: you stop buying the nonsense that he was told that.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Botts never told him that. Just so-called insiders. That's like
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: having Ramona Shelbourne as your insider. How did that story
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: turn out, Ramona?
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: Not great.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: You and ESPN kind of got taken to the cleaners there.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: Got taken to the woodshed on that one. Anyway, that's it.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: You had a thought on Wright.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's just.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Frustrating watching him?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and all these hockey people, whether it's teams that
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: are wanting to trade for him, thinking that there's something
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: there that's untapped, I've never seen it. I'm not going
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: to lie. And maybe that's me being a very naive,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: not a hockey scout or anything like that, but everything
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: that I've seen, there's just been nothing that stands out
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: to me with him. I don't know.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: They need him to pop this year, or they do
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: need to move him. It's one or the other. Because
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: it's not healthy all the way around. Maybe he'll take
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: that step. He's still only 22 years old. I mean,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: he's a kid. I've mentioned this before and I'll say
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: it again. Hey, Eddie Olchek's on the TV right now.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: What's up, Edzo? A guy like that, if he doesn't
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: take steps forward, then you do move him. Health for him,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: healthy for the organization, away you go. That's what you
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: can do. But I think there's a to me there's
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: a concern two ways. One is he peaked when he
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: was in juniors at 16, 17, you know, like he
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: just peaked at that age. That happens. I mean, if
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: anybody who's got a kid or a kid that plays
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: youth sports, how many of those kids that were like
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: middle school, freshman year in high school were like the,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: the dude, right. Or the girl. Of course. And then,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: and as you probably played with and against these types
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: of kids.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: A hundred percent. The guy has a mustache when he's
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: 12 years old.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: And then, I mean, I remember hearing the story, I
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: think it was Hugh told me, about Dylan Morris, the
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: quarterback for Washington. Dylan Morris had a mustache in ninth
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: grade at Graham Kapowson or wherever he went to high school.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Never grew, never got bigger. That happens, right? And maybe Shane,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: one of those guys that peaked early and that's what
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: it is. Or maybe he's just still very young and
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: there's something there and he's going to pop this year.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: And if he does, then How smart did the Kraken
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: look for not moving along the way? I don't know
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: what's there, Anders. I don't either. I really don't know.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know either. I'm not going to pretend to
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: be a scout. I don't see him doing anything exceptional.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: It's not like he is incredibly skilled and just can't
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: find the shot. It's not like he has just a.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: I think he's a pretty good... I think he's got
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: the potential to be a pretty good playmaker.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: I think he's got the potential. I think he's got
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: a pretty decent finish when he gets opportunities. Saw that
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: two years ago.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: He doesn't skate around anyone, though, either.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: He's a pretty good skater. He's a pretty good skater. Yeah.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: But it just hasn't translated. Yeah. We all can agree
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: it hasn't translated. But good story. Go read Emerald City Spectrum.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: I'll just warn you once again, that was never promised
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: that he was going to get traded. Because if it did,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: they broke their promise. And that wouldn't be good either.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 9: Okay?
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: So that was a promise. Use your head. A little
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: common sense as well.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 9: 4-9-4-5-1.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: It's going to be on your text line. Should we
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: talk some college football?
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 9: Let's do it.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: I'm listening carefully with my app in hand as Rank
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  Speaker 4: You'll get it eventually.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like it was written down for me. It's
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  Speaker 1: almost like it was written down. Maybe I would know
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  Speaker 1: better next time. All right, let's go to it. Here
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: we go. Mariners lose the first game of the series
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: to the Athletics yesterday 7-4. That didn't make us happy,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: did it? No, not at all. Not at all. They
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: lose that game, but they get a chance to get
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: back at it tonight. Logan Gilbert's on the mound. I
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: like their chances with Logan Gilbert on the mound. Do
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: you like their chances with Logan Gilbert on the mound?
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, about more than usual.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: Okay. That's good. I don't like your lack of enthusiasm
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: for that.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: It's just, I can't do it much longer, man.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Apple Cup Sunday, 1 o'clock here on 93.3 KDRFM.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: Pre-game show starts at 6 a.m. with Softee and the Hawks.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: NFL Pro Football Hall of Fame has made sweeping changes
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: to its selection process. That includes a significant reduction in
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: the number of selectors and the elimination of the seniors
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: category being separate. Mike Sando joins us starting his weekly
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: visits on Monday. He's part of that committee. We'll have
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: him explain what this means coming up Monday at 2 p.m.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: on the radio show. Anders, I've got a score update
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: for me for Major League Baseball.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: Hey, there you go.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: Detroit and Cleveland are tied at 6 in the top
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: of the 6. Why is that relevant? Why?
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  Speaker 4: Because I told you not to live bet that.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: Even though it was a 4-0 deficit for Cleveland, and
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: they've been roaring back to tie it at 6-6. So
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not happy with you right now.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 9: Don't listen to me.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: That's readily apparent. High school football final score last night.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: A couple of them. Skyline beat Covington High School, a.k.a. Kentwood.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: That's a good day for football. Sorry, Kentwood. And Tahoma
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: with a big win over Eastlake, the other school up
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: on top of the plateau there. Attaboy, Zach Myers and
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: Tahoma Bears. You want your score mentioned?
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  Speaker 2: Well.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Send me a text someday. All right, 49451. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: to it. Rob Rank talking college football right now.
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• 1:17:29
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  Speaker 1: All right, 2 o'clock hour, Friday afternoon. Well, not the
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: eve of college football starting. We had college football last night.
• 1:17:48
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  Speaker 1: This is our first official visit with one Rob Rang. Actually,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: we kind of had one last week, but this is
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: really our first big one, first big weekend. If you're
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: new to this show, for the last, what, 15 or
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: so years, Rob and I convene on a Friday. He
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: tells us about some of the big college games and
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: some of the prospects to look for. It's never too
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: early to talk NFL draft, so we're going to do
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  Speaker 1: How are you?
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: I'm doing very well.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: Ian, how are you, sir? I'm ready to go. Let's
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: get some stuff going. We got a lot going on.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: Let me start first. We'll just jump ahead to Sunday.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Let's get to the Apple Cup. Washington, Washington State. It's
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: different on a lot of levels. One of those levels
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: would be the fact that it's a Sunday. It's September,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Labor Day weekend. It's not a conference game. etc. We
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: go through all those things. Let's just talk about some
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: of the players that we're expecting to see, and I
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: know UW has far more prospects for the NFL than
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: Washington State does, so let's start with Washington first, and
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: then we'll get to a couple guys for Wazoo, and
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: it sounds like Washington's got some boys up front this year.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: They really do, Ian.
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  Speaker 15: As you said, you and I have been working together,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 15: previewing every weekend's college football games for an awful long time.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 15: I've been very fortunate to have had some perspective of
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 15: the University of Washington being invited in and seeing how
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 15: they practice and operate for several different coaching staffs now.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 15: And I can tell you this, this is one of
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 15: the better offensive lines I've ever seen at the University
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 15: of Washington. There's three upperclassmen that I want to make
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 15: sure that we talk about. And I say upperclassmen because,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 15: you know, of course, we live in this era now,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 15: you know, where guys with six, seven years of college
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 15: eligibility are still playing college ball. And so I, as
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 15: we talk today and in the future episodes this year,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 15: I'm always going to try to mention players as you know,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 15: a fourth-year junior or a fifth-year senior, whatever the case
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 15: might be. So that way, you and I and the
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 15: Seattle Seahawks and everybody else out there, we have a
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 15: feel for if these players might be eligible for this
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 15: upcoming year's NFL draft. I want to start off the
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 15: conversation real quick. As far as on the offensive line,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 15: with the left tackle, excuse me, right tackle, Drew as
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 15: a party, this is a fifth-year senior.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: He's the right tackle. He's 6'7, he's 320 pounds.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 15: And just his physicality is really what stands out about him.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 15: Anytime you're talking about an offensive tackle who's 6'7, Ian,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 15: a lot of times... Those guys are really, really high-waisted,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 15: and that leaves them vulnerable to bull rushers.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: They often don't have much lateral agility.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 15: He's got enough agility and enough balance to be able
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 15: to remain at the right tackle spot. And if a
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 15: team ever wanted to move him inside the guard, he
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 15: certainly has the power to push people. So to me,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 15: that is going to be a big part of what
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 15: the University of Washington is going to be looking to do,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 15: is just run the football right off of their right side,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 15: I think at the right guard next to him, Garen
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 15: Hatchett is a player that people should also be familiar with.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 15: And Garen Hatchett actually is a local Washington State area product.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 15: He and his brother, Landon Hatchett, the center, who is
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 15: unfortunately out for the Apple Cup due to coming back
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 15: from a broken right wrist suffered a year ago. But
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 15: when Washington is really rolling and they have those three veterans, again,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 15: Drew has a party at the right tackle position, the
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 15: right guard, Guerin, Hatchett, the center, Landon Hatchett. The two
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 15: Ferndale natives, being the brothers there in the middle of
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 15: four of the Huskies, I really think that they have
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 15: as powerful a run-blocking offensive line as I've seen in
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 15: awful long times. I'm really excited to see what the
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 15: Huskies might be able to do in terms of just
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 15: running the football down opponents' throats.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, with the Hatchets, as you mentioned, one of them's
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: out and Garen Hatchett kind of almost I don't know
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: if he's been beaten out. We'll see what he ends
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: up doing, but he's a big boy. Hatcher Brothers has
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: been there for like eight years. They're listed as seventh-year players.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: What the hell? How are we doing this? What in
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: the name of Juan Garcia are we doing there? They're starting,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: I believe, if I'm not mistaken, isn't it a true freshman?
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: They're starting a left tackle, Cody Green. as well. But
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: they are big up front. Washington is on that offensive line.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: And I just kind of think back, that team that
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: went to the National Championship game before losing to Michigan,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: that offensive line felt like almost all those guys went
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: to the NFL, didn't they, Rob?
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: They did. And that's the thing.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 15: It's been a tradition for Washington to have quality players
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 15: drafted into the NFL. Of course, we've seen some guys.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 15: I mean, some first-round selections as Morris Trophy Award winners.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 15: I think Caleb McGarry in.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: The right tackle.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 15: And Troy Fautano at the left tackle spot, both of
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 15: them wound up having, you know, still having in the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 15: case of Fautano, a quality NFL career. And Caleb McGarry
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 15: was a very good player for the Atlanta Falcons for
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 15: a long time since he's retired. It's been a strong
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 15: tradition at the University of Washington. But again, to me,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 15: what's exciting about this is it just feels like they
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 15: have greater depth. You mentioned some of the young players
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 15: who might even be able to jump ahead of some
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 15: of these veteran players. I think when it's all said
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 15: and done, however, that some of these veteran players, if
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 15: they don't start for the University of Washington this year,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 15: like a Garrett Hatchett at right guard, for example, one
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 15: of the more powerful run blockers I've seen as far
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 15: as interior offensive linemen so far this year. If they
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 15: don't start for the Huskies, that's a testament to the
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 15: young talent that they're already developing. And these are players
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 15: that are going to get their opportunity, say, in the
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 15: East-West Shrine Bowl or a senior role, something like that,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 15: where they're really going to turn some heads and be
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 15: a so-called surprise. But I'm telling you right now, it's
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 15: no surprise. NFL teams know who these players are, and
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 15: they have a pro future.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: It's funny. I'm looking at their depth chart right now,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: the one that they released for the game notes this week.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: And you started the conversation off by talking about what
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: year guys are. I guess that's the thing now, right?
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: We have to get away from saying what we used
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: to say. He's a redshirt freshman. He's a fifth-year senior.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: He's a third-year. a redshirt junior. They're listing these guys
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: by the year. Fourth, fourth, first, first, second, fourth, fifth.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: That's how they list them. So let me talk about
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: one of the guys that's a fourth-year player. Jacob Lane
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: is their edge rusher, number 48 from Puyallup.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm really excited about Jacob Lane. This guy is 6'4,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 15: 260 pounds. As you mentioned, he grew up playing in Puyallup,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 15: specifically Emerald Ridge High School. I mentioned before, with the
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 15: two brothers, the Hatchet brothers from Ferndale High School. It
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 15: just makes it that much more enjoyable for me as
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 15: the Mount Tahoma teacher and alum that I am. When
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 15: you see the local high school prospects, you know, really
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 15: playing pro-caliber ball. With Jacob Lane, look, I mean, this
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 15: is a young man who's not coming out of nowhere.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 15: I mean, he led the Huskies a year ago in
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 15: quarterback pressures, tackles for loss, and sacks. But he only
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 15: had four sacks a season to go in a And frankly,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 15: I think that that number might double this year and
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 15: that he is going to become one of the real
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 15: breakout stars in the entire country. He has some burst,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 15: some bend, a twist. He really is a really nice
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 15: dip and rip move where he gets under the pads
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 15: of tackles and is able to turn the corner and
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 15: still maintain speed.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: That is a trait that.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 15: We talked about so many times with the Conor O'Toole's
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 15: and the Jalen Gaines' edge rushers for the Seahawks who
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 15: have the ability to get those quick wins. I think
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 15: that Jacob Lane is the guy who is going to
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 15: get some of those quick wins this year.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: He's going to pad his numbers.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 15: And he's another one that people across the country maybe
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 15: haven't even heard of Jacob Lane. But they'll be talking
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 15: about him when we get to our NFL draft conversation, say,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 15: in February, March, and April.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: All right, Rob Ryan, joining us, brought to you by
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: Fro's Pizza. Cougs, this is where one of the things
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: has changed over the years. First of all, great unknown.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: We have no idea. We know the running backs or
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: some veteran guys have been around for a couple years.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: Outside of Voorhees, they're all second, first or second year guys.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: Tony Freeman's kind of their bigger name as far as
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: the offense is concerned. He's a slot receiver. I don't
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: know if he's an NFL product or not.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 15: Well, he's listed at 5'8 and 174 pounds, and he
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 15: might even be smaller than that. So it's obviously very
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 15: difficult to make it into the NFL at that height.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 15: He's a slot receiver. He's a return man. He has
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 15: dynamic athletic ability. He can make people miss. And for
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 15: a smaller... receiver in terms of stature. He certainly plays big.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 15: I mean, he jumps back into contact to try to
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 15: make the catch or get the pass interference flag. And
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 15: so I just respect that element of his game. He
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 15: might be small, but that's, you know, he's got some.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: Fight to him. So he's an intriguing player.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 15: And then of course the quarterback, Caden Pinnock, uh, You know,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 15: the UC Davis transfer, another one who's pretty small, 6'195,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 15: but he is a little thicker than his listed size suggests.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: He's got good overall weight distribution.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 15: I would argue that he's got more of an average
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 15: arm when it comes to major college football than an
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 15: overpowering arm, but it's not a weak arm.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: He can make every throw.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 15: He's got some talent to him, and he certainly has
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 15: some moxie to him as well. I think that he's
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 15: going to be an awful lot of fun for Coug
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 15: fans to watch. So I'm excited about the offense that
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 15: could be for Washington State this year.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to some of the other games.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: We'll start on Ole Miss and Louisville coming up on Sunday,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: I believe that game is. And let's talk about all
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: the stuff going on in the offseason. Doesn't it feel
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: like a distant memory that we were talking about? Is
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: Trinidad Chambliss, the quarterback from Ole Miss, is he eligible
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: to play? And with everything else that's going on, we'll
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: get to LSU and Clemson in a minute. Trinidad Chambliss
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: is kind of the main show for that game. What
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: do you see from him?
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 15: Well, Trinidad Chambliss is just one of the biggest stories
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 15: in all of college football. As you said, Ian, we
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 15: kind of started the show talking about these, you know,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 15: fourth-year juniors or fifth-year seniors.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: Or whatever the case might be.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 15: You know, this is a guy who's, you know, He's
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 15: 25 years old. He is entering his sixth season of
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 15: college football. His first four seasons, he was actually at
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 15: Ferris State, and he was a backup in three of
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 15: his first four seasons. Three seasons at Ferris State, and
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 15: then the one season last year, Ole Miss, he was
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 15: actually the backup. The anticipated starter for the Rebels got
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 15: hurt in week two. Trinidad Chambliss takes over the job
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 15: and becomes a superstar. He was a superstar that one
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 15: year at Ferris State. He was the backup the one
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 15: year that he was a starter. They just went and
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 15: won the D2 National Championship.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: So, again, this is a.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 15: Guy that when he is on the field, then he
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 15: has been undeniably one of the best players on the field.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: That's it. Again, he's older. He's 25 years old.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: He's smaller.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 15: He's six foot, 210 pounds. There's so many just obvious
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 15: knocks on this young man. But when you watch him
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 15: on tape, Ian, the maneuverability, the accuracy.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: The poise, the clutch play.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 15: You know, I remember a certain guy, Russell Wilson, who
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 15: was bandied about as being too small to play on
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 15: the big stage. And then whether it be in the
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 15: college level, the pro level, for the most part, every
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 15: time in the biggest of big moments, he typically stepped up.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 15: And that's one of the things I think with Trinidad Chambliss,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 15: I think that he is one of the biggest storylines.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: Of this class.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 15: We know we always talk about the quarterbacks. Everybody's going
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 15: to be talking about Oregon's Dante Moore or Texas's Arch Manning.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 15: You're going to hear the same names over and over
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 15: and over again. To me, one of the huge storylines
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 15: this year, if all these underclassmen quarterbacks do in fact
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 15: come out for the NFL draft, then we're going to
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 15: see a historic class. Trinidad Chambliss doesn't have the ability
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 15: to come back to school anymore.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: This is it for him.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 15: And I think that he is a guy that certainly
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 15: deserves to be in that day two conversation just based
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 15: on what he's already demonstrated. But I think he's got
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 15: a chance to actually sneak into the later portion of
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 15: of the first round. And so to me, he is
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 15: the player of all the players.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: And all of college football. There's almost like a must.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 15: Watch because you have to be evaluating him just because again,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 15: his game does translate to the NFL and he's a
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 15: polarizing player just because of the size and age.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: What about Q1? While Lacey, they're running back.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 15: Dynamic player, also a little bit undersized, but my goodness,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 15: he's a player who led the country in, or led
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 15: the SEC in rushing touchdowns and in rushing attempts. And
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 15: that was one of the things that really surprised me
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 15: is that anytime we're talking about a back who is 185,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 15: 190 pounds, then the question is going to be, okay,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 15: he's dynamic, but can he be a bell cow? I mean,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 15: is this a guy who is more of a George Helani?
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 15: You'd like to see him play. eight to ten uh
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  Speaker 15: you know get eight to ten touches in a game
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 15: or is this a devon hn uh for the miami
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 15: dolphins who is now you know one of the highest
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 15: paid backs in all the nfl just because of his
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 15: explosiveness while he's undersized he's still a true bell cow
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  Speaker 15: back i think that kiwan lacy can be that bell
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 15: cow back and he proved it last year by leading
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 15: the scc in touches he didn't have any injuries throughout
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 15: the entire season if he can do it again this
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 15: year ian I don't know that there's a running back
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 15: in this entire draft class who can match him in
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 15: terms of big play ability. And again, if he can
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 15: prove that he can remain durable in terms of.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: Toughness as well.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: Who's got the running back advantage in that game? Louisville
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: with Isaac Brown or Ole Miss with Lacey?
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, I still think it's Lacey.
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  Speaker 15: And I just think that, again, it's not just in
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 15: terms of their individual talent. I think it's in terms
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 15: of their fit with the offense and the fact that
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 15: he has Trinidad Chambliss next to him who's Again, not
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 15: only a dynamic quarterback as far as passing, but a
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 15: dynamic runner as well.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: Louisville is loaded.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 15: I mean, they've got, I believe they have like 16
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 15: players who are on the East-West Shrine Bulls top 1,000 list.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 15: So again, this is a list that is compiled by
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 15: one of the preeminent all-star games in all of college football.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 15: Their staff, led by Eric Galko, is one of the
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 15: best in terms of it's full of former NFL scouts
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 15: who are putting together this list. And again, for Louisville
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 15: to have that number of players, they are talented. They're
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 15: going to test Ole Miss. But I just think between
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 15: Lacey and Chambliss, the quarterback position, Ole Miss's skilled position
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 15: talent is just too much.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: Good to know as I sit here at Snoqualmie Casino. Okay,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: biggest game of the weekend, Rob, LSU-Clemson. God, it's big
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons. It's big because it's LSU-Clemson,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: 4.30 Saturday on ESPN. It's also big because of all
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: the stuff going on with Lane Kiffin and LSU and
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: bringing guys back from the NFL and Dabo Sweeney from Clemson.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: He's got a little bit of pressure down there and
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: also him being critical of said things, bringing back guys
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: from the NFL. But who are you watching? I heard
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: there's an edge rusher to keep an eye on this game.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 15: Ian, with Clemson and LSU, again, I mentioned that East-West
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 15: Shrine Bowl numbers. And look, just to put this in perspective,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 15: University of Washington has 10 players on that East-West Shrine Bowl.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 15: Washington State has three players on that East-West Shrine Bowl.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 15: They're top 1,000 prospects. LSU has 21. The only team
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 15: that has more than that is the reigning champions, defending
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 15: champion Indiana Hoosiers.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: We have 22. So LSU is just absolutely low. And
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: say what you will about Lane Kiffin.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 15: He certainly has made himself into a bit of a
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 15: villain from a lot of people's perspectives. The man can
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 15: flat recruit and coach, especially offensive football. So I think
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 15: for LSU, what we've got to focus in on is
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 15: the quarterback, Sam.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: Levitt, previously at Arizona State.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 15: I think that he's going to put up eye-popping numbers
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 15: in Lane Kiffin's offense. I mentioned 21 players on that
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 15: East-West Shrine list. Four of them are wide receivers. None
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 15: of them were at LSU originally. They were all transfers in.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 15: The guy I want to talk about is a tight
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 15: end who actually is born and raised, so to speak, LSU,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 15: and that's Tredez Green. and this guy is six foot seven.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 15: He's 237 pounds. He looks like a power forward out
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 15: there playing. Uh, he doesn't have the, the, the production
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 15: to this point where you'd be like, Oh my goodness,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 15: this guy's a.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: First round pick.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 15: But I am telling you that this guy's athletic traits
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 15: are dynamic.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: He is going to be a first round pick. He,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: he is just fantastic.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 15: I mean, it, everything that the Seahawks are excited about
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 15: with their young tight end, Elijah Arroyo, former wide receiver,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 15: kind of making that tight end move. That's exactly what
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 15: you get with traded as green, except green is even
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 15: more athletic. I just think that, uh, again, they are
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 15: going to be as high powered of offenses as you're
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 15: going to see in all of college football.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: So they're worth the.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 15: Price of admission just to watch the young NFL talent
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 15: growing up around them. And then you mentioned the pass rushers, uh,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 15: at Clemson will help is the player that I think
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 15: we should be talking about.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: Look, we, We do this show, of course.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 15: And so many of our listeners and followers, and thank
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 15: you to all of them, they listen because they want
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 15: to know what.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks might be thinking.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 15: It's clear. Seattle needs to get themselves young defensive ends,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 15: young edge rushers for the future just because of the
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 15: fact that they have some guys, like Demarcus Lawrence, who
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 15: turned to us, who are kind of towards the back
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 15: end of their respective careers, will help to me. is
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 15: a guy I think that is going to check the
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 15: box for John Schneider. He's going to check the box
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 15: for Mike McGaughan.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: He's 6'6. He's 260 pounds.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 15: A lot of Seahawks fans out there are kind of,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 15: you know, hoping the Seahawks are going to pull off
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 15: some miraculous trade at some point for a Max Crosby.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 15: Why trade for a Max Crosby when you can get
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 15: a younger version of him? And that's exactly why I
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 15: think with Will Held. Again, 6'6, 260 pounds. Last year,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 15: this time, we were talking about guys like Peter Woods,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 15: who wound up being a first-round pick.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: T.J.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 15: Parker wound up being a an early second-round pick to
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 15: the Miami Dolphins. One of the reasons why they didn't
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 15: go as high as maybe people were thinking originally is
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 15: because Will Helt, number 13, was the best defensive player
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 15: for Clemson last year. I think that he is another
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 15: one who was good last year and could be even
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 15: better this year.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: But, of course, he's got to prove it.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 15: Everybody is going to be focusing in on number 13
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 15: after focusing on the two NFL prospects, Woods and Parker,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 15: a year ago.
• 1:37:28
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• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: I heard you, Corbin, I'm a man. Turbo, have a
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: new thing going on. Tell me about it real quick.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 15: Yeah, we got the triple option, which is an all-new podcast.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 15: It's going to be housed at Emerald City Spectrum and
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 15: on KGR's website as well. And we're really excited about it.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 15: I mean, the reality is that there are a lot of–
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 15: There's a lot of quality Seahawks analysis available. What we
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 15: think is that we've got something pretty unique here. We're
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 15: going to have the perspective of a former player, of course,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 15: and Robert Turbin, the Super Bowl champion. We have the
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 15: perspective of Corbin Smith, our buddy, who's at the Virginia
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 15: Mason Athletic Center and goes.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: To every game.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 15: So he's got the beat writer perspective. And, of course,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 15: my perspective as a scout for the BC Lions and
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 15: NFL draft analysts for, for Fox sports and for your
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 15: own fine program as.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: Well, sir.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 15: So we're excited about our, our opening show is tonight, 7. P.M.
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  Speaker 2: Pacific.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 15: You can check on Twitter. There'll be probably 45 tweets
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 15: from Corbin in the next hour or so. So, so
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 15: I'm sure that there'll be plenty of opportunity to, to
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 15: see Corbin, whether it be Thursday's show, Friday's show, or
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 15: anything in the future, please feel free to check it
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 15: out and give us a like on Facebook or.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: Twitter or YouTube or anything else.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 15: But I can promise you, we will be breaking down
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 15: the Seahawks from different perspectives than anybody else available.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: I love it. We're going to be talking more and
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: more about this show with Corbin every week, with you
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: every week, and great to have Turbo on. Really excited
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: that us here at iHeart involved as well, which is
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: even better. So much more to come on that. In
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: the meantime, my friend, thank you so much. We will
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: check in with you next week. And crazy to think
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: when we check in with you next week, we'll be
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: week two of the college football season. Crazy enough. Crazy stuff.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you then, man. Have a great show tonight.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: Thank you, sir.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Ian.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: That is our guy. Man, Rob Rang, love these Friday conversations.
• 1:39:35
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• 1:39:37
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• 1:40:02
  Speaker 12: Mayor of maple valley calling in on his own show
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 12: just wanted to speak one more time to the fans
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 12: of our local baseball team and point out that the
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 12: mariners are there they can still win their division they
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 12: don't wait for it play anybody with a winning record
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 12: the rest of the way so win tonight or tomorrow
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 12: against the a's and you're there.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: All right, like this is getting out of control. How
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: many impersonators do we need? A lot.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: Give me more.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: Keep going.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 5: Ancient Mariner here. Very seldom do I ever agree with
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 5: the analytical Anders because I disagree with him about analytics.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: But that's another story. Ian, give it up.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: There is nothing redeemable about the 2026 Seattle Mariners.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: Let it go.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 5: Let them lose. Let them go to the dog pile.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 5: Hopefully we'll get a new president, GM, and manager.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: Anders the analytics. Analytics Anders. I like that.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: Analytical Anders, yeah.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: Analytical Anders. Ancient Mariner, there's no doubt in my mind
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: that Ancient Mariner has no room, no headspace.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 9: For analytics.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: No bandwidth at all for analytics.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: That makes sense.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 9: You know what?
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair. He's slumming down at some dive
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: bar in Ballard right now. Like, I'll tell you what, man.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: Back in my day, Rupert Jones, best center fielder ever.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: Mike Cameron sucks. I don't know that.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 9: Julio, whatever.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. One more. Next one.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 8: Hey, Dan Wilson here. Tough one tonight, you know, you know.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 8: Real tough game, you know. We fought hard, thought the
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 8: guys fought back, you know, really, really tried hard, you know,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 8: you know. They did listen, and we played Bazzardo for
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 8: the 85th game in a row, you know, you know.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 8: Tough one night for Bazzardo, you know. I think he
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 8: looked good, and I got kicked out of the game,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 8: you know, you know.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: But it was tough.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 8: Ended up in Jerry's office, JD, I call him, and
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 8: gave him a nice back rub. We watched the game
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 8: together and talked about the analytics for next game, you know,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 8: you know, you know, you know, you know.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: So hopefully it's not a tough game. Hopefully it'll be
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: a good one tonight, you know, you know. Oh, very good.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: Well done. Well done. I'm going to just read one text. Ian,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: those student driver stickers are an epidemic that works swing shift.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: And saw three of them after 11 o'clock last night.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: Didn't know so many student drivers were out that late. Exactly.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: You would think, you know.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: The dumbest sticker in the world. Just put your head
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: through a wall if you want to put that. Just
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: put your head through a wall next time. You know,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: or give your head a shake.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 4: Give your head a shake. That's another Ian Furnessism.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: I want to do something here real quick. I forgot
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: about this. I was going to do it earlier, and
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: we just were jammed. It's weird. A Friday football show,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: and we're just jammed, right? Yep. But this coming Monday,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: at this particular time, you know what it is, Anders?
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: Fact or fiction? Oh, yes. You of all people should know.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 9: I do.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 4: It's your favorite thing of the year. I had to
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: get my head a-shaking to make sure.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: You're in charge of it again, right?
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 9: Yes, I am.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: Let's get that spreadsheet going. Let's go. Coming up on Monday,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: it's our first Factor Fiction Day. I know Softie does
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: it at 3.35. We do it at 2.35. I don't
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: know when the other shows do it.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: Same time, 7.35, 11.35, 2.35.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 7: 7.35, 11.35, 2.35, 3.35.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: So what you do is we'll give you a game.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: If you agree, you'll text FACT to 49451. If you disagree,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: you'll text FICTION to 49451. You get a point for
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: every correct answer.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 4: The winner who has the most correct points at the
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: end of the season, it's a 14-week contest, will win
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 4: a grand prize of $ 10, 000. $ 10, 000 weekly prize? Yes, and
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: our weekly prize, so every point that you score is
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 4: put into a hat, so to speak, a metaphorical hat,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 4: and we pick out a random one, so the more
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 4: points you get in a week, the more chances you
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: have to win, but you just need one, and you
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: can win $ 1, 000 every single week.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: Some people think on our radio station it's about who
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: has the most wins and losses.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 6: It's not.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: It's about who has the most people texting in on
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: their show. And, Anders, can you confirm who has, on average,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: the most people, the most listeners participating?
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: I will confirm that for the past three seasons, the
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 4: Ian Furness Show has been the highest number the greatest attendance,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: if you will, most people playing. We lead the league
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 4: in attendance on our show. And or participation, however you
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: want to look at it.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Now, I'm not worried about wins and losses. I
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: just want to make sure you, the listeners, are being
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: serviced correctly. How selfless of you. That's what I am.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: I'm a selfless individual. I want to make sure you
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: guys are getting taken care of. It also tells me
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: a lot about our listeners. Yeah. This is the This
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: apparently is where all gamblers go. We know our demographic.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: And if you guys could have heard us in the break, Anderson,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: he just bullied me into making a Mariner.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: Bullied you? I literally just nudged you in a direction.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: And I did it.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 4: And you did it.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: We only do football, but this would be an example
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: of fact or fiction. We'll see if we can get
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: some text. Ready?
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: Ready?
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Logan Gilbert on the mound. I just went with
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: the runs. Mariners, minus one and a half. They've got
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: to win by two or more. Fact, 49451.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 4: Fact, if you agree. Fiction, if you disagree.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: Fiction, if you disagree.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 4: It's a practice round, guys. Just so you guys know.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 4: It's a practice round.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: Practice round.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 12: 49451.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: Mariners, minus one and a half.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: Don't text back that you're not getting a bounce back
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 4: either because we haven't started yet. This is a practice round.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: This is a practice. We're doing a practice here. Mariners,
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: minus one and a half. Fact, 49451. If you disagree, Fiction49451.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: Text it right now. We'll see how many people figure
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: it out and agree. I went fact, by the way.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: I went Mariners minus one and a half. Anders bullied
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: me into that pick. Yes, I did. Uh, facts so far.
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  Speaker 1: We'll go and see. People will believe. All you guys
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: say you don't believe in the Mariners, everyone's believing right now.
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  Speaker 4: I've been saying facts.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: Weird.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 4: I'd do fiction. I have zero faith.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: In this game. You are a hater, sir.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: I am.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: You are a.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, as someone who has to do a postcast
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 4: after every single one of these godforsaken things every night,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: it's getting really frustrating.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: Is it? It's getting hard for you.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's a fiction. First fiction just came in.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah!
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: Let's go. First fiction just came in. Mariners minus one
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: and a half. Fact, 49451. If you disagree, fiction, 49451.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can still think they're going to win.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: You're just not going to win by two. They're going
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: to win only by one round.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 4: Exactly. So even more reason to go fiction.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: God, now they're all going to... This is the gambling
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: show of records.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 9: This is.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: The degenerate show of records.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: Ian is a Mariners apologist. Fact. It's true.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 4: He is, guys. He's still on the bandwagon. I can't
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 4: get him off of it.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: Hey, Martinez, Kmart, are you listening to that? All the
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: grief you give me about being negative and mean to
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: your baseball team, and people are calling me the Mariners apologist. Huh?
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: My, how things have changed over the years. My, how things. Oh,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: now all the fictions are coming. Fiction with a bullet.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: Love it.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, did I hear Funson texting starting
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: time is noon? Yes, it is. Ryan and Scottsdale. Because
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: the show starts at noon now. I don't know if
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: you guys know that. They switched it. No one told
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: me or Anders or anybody else. One day we showed
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: up to do a show at 1 and there was
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: like an hour of dead space. They said, no, you're
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: supposed to be here at noon. Oh, I remember what happened. Okay,
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: so we'll start now. Okay, a lot of fictions. Yeah,
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: there it is.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 4: There's the just terrible Mariner fandom that I know. M's suck.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: Then, there it is. Portland Sucks is thrown in there
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: Love it. Sorry, I didn't mean terrible Mariner fandom. Fandom
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: of the terrible Mariners.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: I should say. They literally lose more. Guys, Logan Gilbert's
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: pitching tonight. That's why they're gonna win this thing they're
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: gonna go away all right just trust me they're all
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: fictions now like you guys were taking it serious all
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: texted early now we got like 100 fictions in a
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: row okay yep yep.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: Whatever we also have all the numbers on what percentage
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 4: east each host gets agreed on and sometimes when it's
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 4: in like the low like 30 that's like yikes everyone
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 4: disagrees with your pick That's what this one would be.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this would be, this would be, this would be,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: you know, bet it now, thank me later type of
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: guy in terms of people disagreeing. That's what that would be.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: Okie dokie. You guys are being that person. Okay. By
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: the way, what I would urge you guys to do
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: is just every five minutes, text fact or fiction, just
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: one word for the next two hours.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 4: Do it.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: That'll make Jackson's life really fun.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 4: And Softie will love it.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: Softie joins us next. Your text message screen up on
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: your computer. Is he there? Talking to me. Do you
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: have your text message machine up?
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 9: Text messages?
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 15: No.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 3: I'm not allowed to look at text. I've been told
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: by Jackson Phelps.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 4: Jackson's actually confirming that report.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: Is he? Wow. You're not allowed to look at text.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: Why can't you look at text? I don't know, man.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: I just do what I'm told.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: Jackson says he wants it to be a surprise.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 9: Jackson's like my wife. I'm afraid of him. I just
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 9: do what I'm told, man.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: All I see is fiction right now, Anders, by the way.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: It's our first, you know, we did a little, I
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: know you love preseason football.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: Preseason football, baby.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: We did a little factor fiction preseason. We did preseason
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: factor fiction. Ready?
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: Mariners minus one and a half. Fact.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 9: Tonight, fact. They're going to win tonight.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: Fiction. There you go.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 9: Gilbert will shove tonight.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 4: That's my– Yeah, but the offense will get two hits. Strikeout.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 9: They're going to shove.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: Anders bullied me into making that bet here at Snoqualmie Casino.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 9: Good for you. There you go.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: So I went with it, but people were making me
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: feel bad about it.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: Well, I got suckered into taking the M's plus 500
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: to win the West about four days ago.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: Wow. What do you think it is now here? Let
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: me see.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 9: Plus one million.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 11: Let me see.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: What'd you say, plus 1 million?
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 3: It was plus 180 a week ago. Why does it
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: feel like last night was a huge fatal blow for
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 3: these guys?
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: It didn't feel good. I thought, well, because I think
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: people are going into this thinking, well, they'll win four
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: straight against the A's.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: Or at least three of four. Well, you could still
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: win three or four, but it seems a lot more unlikely,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: does it not?
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 9: Well, they're going to wake up at some point in time,
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 9: I think. I don't know.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, just running the numbers. So Astros have 21 left.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 3: We have 21 left. Let's just say for giggles they
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: go 11 and 10 the rest of the way. M's
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: have to go 17 and 4 in their final 21
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: to catch up.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: Wow. We were doing some math earlier, and it just
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: does not look promising. But there's still a chance, David.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: I don't like having to do math, by the way,
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 3: at all.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: No, I know.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: We did it off the air. 15-6 to go 500,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 4: by the way.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 15-6, and you've got to hope they go 9-12.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 9: If they win the division, they're going to win it
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 9: under 500.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 4: You think so?
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 9: I'm saying the Mariners, if they do win it. If
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 9: they win the division under 500?
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 4: You think their only chance to win the division is
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: if the Astros basically poop themselves the rest.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: Of the way?
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 9: I think they'll be 80-82 if they win the West.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: So the Astros then would have to go 7-14. Correct. Correct.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: Why does that seem really unlikely?
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: Look, right now I just don't feel good about any
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: of it, all right? I don't feel good about any
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: I've got a source out there.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 9: You've got no sources?
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: I have a source. I don't know where you were
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: at earlier today, but I have a source earlier today, quote,
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: Softie is screaming at somebody right now on the phone.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: Who are you yelling at? What did Jackson do?
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 9: I don't know. I was screaming at nobody.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's whispering for Softie in his eyes.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: You know what? It might just be you talking in
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: a normal voice.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 3: Is your source happen to be an ex-Cougar offensive lineman?
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: Softie yelling at someone right now in a parking lot.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe on the phone. I said, oh, cool. Is that
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: an ex-Cougar that sent you that text? I'm just telling,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: I don't, listen. Much like Ramona Shelburne and Ian... Much
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: like Ramona Shelbourne and ESPN and their great reporting, I
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: do not reveal my sources.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 9: You can't go anywhere, man. There's no privacy anymore.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to point out, you're a big deal.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: You've got to behave yourself. All right? Can you just
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: behave yourself? You know what?
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 9: Listen, I may be a big deal, and I agree
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 9: with that. I'm a big deal.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: You are a big deal.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 9: But I'm also a person, man. All right?
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: I have emotions.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 9: I have emotions.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: I get angry.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 9: I get mad. Just like other people get mad.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 9: Jeez.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: I'm a real person, too, man. I may be a
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: big deal. I'm now the sideline reporter for Husky Football.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: But I have emotions, too, and sometimes I get upset.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: I get upset.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 9: People are coming up to me like, hey, this is
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 9: so great. Congratulations. It's like, did I win the lottery
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 9: or something?
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, am I missing something here? Listen, listen. I
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: need you just to be careful. What's the big deal?
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: We need you around for a while. We don't need
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: you having a medical emergency because you're mad at somebody,
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: whether it be Billy Knotts or whoever it is. I'll
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: tell you this. It was not Billy.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 9: It was not Billy?
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha. Then what other ex-Cougar bum texted you?
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: Let's see.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 9: I'm going to go over the list of Cougar bums
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 9: that I know. I'll be texting you on the side
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 9: to figure out which one it was. I just know this, Anders.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 9: I know this. Those Cougar bums that I'm talking about?
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: None of them are going to the game on Sunday.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 15: None.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: They don't like your stadium. Are going. They don't like it.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 4: The greatest setting in college football?
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 9: Unbelievable, man.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: I think that's a very subjective thing.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 9: You guys are just tapping out right and left.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. We'll see.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 12: All right.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: Well, speaking of Cougs, ex-Cougs, Pat Jones on the show today.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 3: In like five minutes.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: Did my connection just fall off, Anders? I think it
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: might have. And then Chris Peterson is going to join us.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're purposely being late for that?
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 9: He'll be with us tonight. We mill it tonight.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do a filibuster here. If I do a
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: filibuster here, do you have to cancel that first segment?
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 9: No, we got to go. We got to go.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 9: See you.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: Hey, good luck in your new job this weekend.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 9: See you. Thanks, pal.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: For the mild-mannered and marginally objectionable Ian Furness, this is
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: Paddle Day saying so long, everyone.