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INTERVIEW: Brandon T. Jackson On Returning To Hollywood, Comedy Career, Cult Community, Spiritual Journey +More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning, Breakfast Club Morning,
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamage the guy.
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  Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club Low on the rosa fillin
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  Speaker 2: in for Jess and you got a special guests in
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  Speaker 2: the building. Yes, indeed he's on the new.
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  Speaker 1: Show on b E T Plus call Webers The Family Business,
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  Speaker 1: New Orleans, which you're streaming right now.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, we have Brandon T. Jackson. Welcome brother,
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  Speaker 2: We're back.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing my brother?
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  Speaker 2: Very well, very well excited. Uh show's doing good. So
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  Speaker 2: you know people are liking that.
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  Speaker 3: Call Weber's the family. What brought you back to Hollywood?
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  Speaker 2: A nigga's gonna have that?
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  Speaker 3: What brought you back to Hollywood?
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  Speaker 2: You know what's so much? It's so funny because when
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  Speaker 2: you when you go out and do a spiritual journey,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you and you learn and
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  Speaker 2: you aggregate people and you realize that it's like God
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  Speaker 2: gives you a gift, right to use. And when it
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  Speaker 2: gives you a gift, you're not using it. You could
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  Speaker 2: you can go crazy and you can you know, you
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  Speaker 2: can like get depressed. You can start and I think
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  Speaker 2: my gift. This is something that was given to do
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  Speaker 2: a purpose that's bigger than just acting. So I saw
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing, you know, trying to aggregate, you know,
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  Speaker 2: our people together, to come together economically. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: the first one to try, and I want to say fail.
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  Speaker 2: But you know it's like artists were artists. What what
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  Speaker 2: he gave me I believe to to to be alike.
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  Speaker 4: How the industry changed, meaning like for good for better art.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I never Here's my issue. The whole
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  Speaker 2: nominati cut off my gas. Everybody blaming something fictitious in
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  Speaker 2: my sense, not I don't you know the whole you know, do.
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  Speaker 3: You have to sell your soul to be in Hollywood?
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  Speaker 3: Is what I'm saying. Question do you still have to
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  Speaker 3: sell it? Now?
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying, I don't feel like it's like that. I
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  Speaker 2: wonder spiritually. I feel like whatever you would do to
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  Speaker 2: to uh, to get where you gotta go, you gotta
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  Speaker 2: find what energy is pushing you. My energy was always
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  Speaker 2: the most high, you know period. I mean my dad
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  Speaker 2: told me this too. He's like you you got my blood,
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  Speaker 2: my prayers, your grandmother's prayers, your grandfather's prayers running through
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  Speaker 2: your veins. So when you do these other things, your
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  Speaker 2: ancestors are calling for you not to do, so it
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  Speaker 2: won't work. You know what I'm saying. I've been to
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  Speaker 2: many you know, dark places in life, and I just like,
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  Speaker 2: don't it don't work for me? You know, I tried comedy.
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  Speaker 1: It's comedy your safe place because you're doing acting, and
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  Speaker 1: you totally dove into comedy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's funny, I've been I've been doing
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  Speaker 2: stand up since I was fortunate. I actually started doing
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  Speaker 2: stand up in church. A lot of people think I
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  Speaker 2: went and started doing I started as doing comedy and
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  Speaker 2: then I got the movie Roll Bounds.
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  Speaker 3: You said in church.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I started in church.
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  Speaker 3: You get up in front of the congregation.
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  Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, I was clean. I was a clean comedy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I'm still relatively pretty clean, but not you know,
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  Speaker 2: I could do better. But with my dad, he don't
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  Speaker 2: like one to my shows. But uh but uh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I talk about this in Chestnut. I got a new show,
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  Speaker 2: we Shopping new. Well, it's really good. I actually I
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  Speaker 2: would like you to watch it because you're a tough critic. DJ.
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  Speaker 2: He's seen me perform, he's seen me do well. He's
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  Speaker 2: seen me bomb, He's seen me get stendovations, everything, but
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  Speaker 2: you never seen me do comedy. I would like that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna send that to you. Just called chest out.
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  Speaker 2: We shopping in Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, everybody. So it's it's
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  Speaker 2: it's looking really good. But yeah, comedy is it was
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  Speaker 2: my safe place when I was going through the whole
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  Speaker 2: spiritual journy. I actually talk about it, and the whole
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  Speaker 2: thing is about that, you know. I thought, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's no disrespect.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought at one time he was gonna quit
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  Speaker 1: comedy because I've seen a couple of shows with Brandon
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  Speaker 1: go up and this was right after everything and bomb.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way Brandon is coming back
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  Speaker 1: after and this is the bomb that you like? Charlamane
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  Speaker 1: like bomb, like the bomb.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I got two types of comedy I like.
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  Speaker 4: I like when I think somebody is really funny and
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  Speaker 4: really making me think I'm just I'm actually just watching,
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  Speaker 4: like I'm not laughing, you know. I like to catch everything. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: But when somebody's bombing, yeah, you love it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why.
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  Speaker 4: I think I like watching the person try to figure
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  Speaker 4: it out. That's what makes me.
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  Speaker 2: But New York bomb is a different from a regular
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  Speaker 2: New York is a different. They they don't want to
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  Speaker 2: even let you get it out, like if you if
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  Speaker 2: you if you bomb in New York. Yeah, you could
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  Speaker 2: say it's like it's it's acceptable because the New York
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  Speaker 2: bomb is like you might be good in another city, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: It was a tough audience, y, but I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to say that. I don't want to say bombs every time.
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  Speaker 1: But no, no, no. The DJ for his set at
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  Speaker 1: least fifteen times.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, does we're do it on tour?
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  Speaker 3: So I did. Everybody said, got you guys, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Even for years though he seemed he that's what he saw.
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  Speaker 2: New York is the is what I got good. Michael
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  Speaker 2: shout out to him. He actually trained me to get
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  Speaker 2: good because I wasn't wronging them where I was doing
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  Speaker 2: all the movies. So it was Rocky three, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like like then that's he was seeing
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  Speaker 2: that moment years ago.
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  Speaker 3: You was rich a little bit, and that's like in.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen, sixth thing. But now that's you know, that's
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  Speaker 2: that's old.
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  Speaker 1: You stay with it though, because it's like you've seen
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  Speaker 1: that and it would take a lot of heart from comedians.
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  Speaker 1: I'm resilient and plus I already know, like I know
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  Speaker 1: what's going to have a waiver.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's the old thing.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen people comedians head down this, but you always
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  Speaker 1: head up.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get him next time. But what gave you that?
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  Speaker 2: Because I know I known fundy him, I don't have
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  Speaker 2: to try to be fun. I'm a funny person, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's just about connecting material to
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  Speaker 2: have a story at the time. So now I have
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  Speaker 2: a story how I left Hollywood for seven years, actually
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  Speaker 2: joined a religious called Achmock but Doc and had to
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  Speaker 2: come back. And Terrence Howard saying me, that's funny. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? That two stories Somewhat it's just fabricated,
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  Speaker 2: but it's pretty pretty true. No, you gotta watch it.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta watch it.
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  Speaker 4: Terence seems like he's still in the coat right now.
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  Speaker 4: I love Terrence. Though Arreens is smart, I totally agree.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's put this number in the calculating five
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  Speaker 4: five f Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But you know why I.
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  Speaker 4: Respect guys like that is because they're at least trying
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  Speaker 4: to figure something else. They're just not what has been
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  Speaker 4: told to us all of these years. And if there's
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  Speaker 4: another ways, just show me.
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  Speaker 2: He's dealing in the it's it's deep man, quantum, the
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  Speaker 2: quantum realm, and that's when you start talking about quantum
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  Speaker 2: physics and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: It's a different game. You're talking different language. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we keep talking about Republican Democrats. Y'all better worry about
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  Speaker 2: these computers. This is this is about to get real.
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  Speaker 2: I have a tech company that that run and that
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing and these I have machines right now building
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  Speaker 2: machines by itself. Like he's in that realm and he's
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  Speaker 2: talking about stuff that people don't understand. So I know,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I talked to him yesterday, sent me a
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  Speaker 2: forty page book about what he was talking about. I
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  Speaker 2: don't understand any of it. Yeah, I read it. It's
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  Speaker 2: all numbers and stuff.
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  Speaker 5: So did you ready? I was gonna ask you. So
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  Speaker 5: when you send that, Michael's helped you bring your raw back.
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  Speaker 5: What how do you do that?
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  Speaker 2: Go to Jamaican clubs at three in the morning, do comedy.
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  Speaker 2: Go do that? See what happens. They're gonna play the
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  Speaker 2: whistles on you. In New York. Go to Harlem at
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  Speaker 2: three in the morning do comedy. Be the fifteen thousand
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  Speaker 2: person up and get booed, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: and then then go do New York is the place
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  Speaker 2: you get great period Detroit, and from Detroit and Detroit
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  Speaker 2: to place you you have the flavor. But New York
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  Speaker 2: is a place you just you just They not gonna play, don't.
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  Speaker 2: They don't care. They got too many people. So we
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  Speaker 2: would go to the comic clubs every night, every night,
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  Speaker 2: all night, all night, all night. I'll be up to
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  Speaker 2: five in the morning. Now go shoot my show called
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  Speaker 2: dead Beat at the time, South Far Long Dead Beating.
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  Speaker 2: From there, I will go to the clubs all night,
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  Speaker 2: all night and we rip, say until you get standing ovations,
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  Speaker 2: and then then I start. He's gonna be mad at
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  Speaker 2: I start killing it because that would take I took
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  Speaker 2: his style too, because he has a New York style
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  Speaker 2: where he hit you like this, you see rip you
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  Speaker 2: know me. I'm an actually an actor style where I
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  Speaker 2: act out. I'm like a Richer and Eddie. Well, you
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  Speaker 2: got to listen to the act out. New York don't
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  Speaker 2: want to see an act out. They're more punchy, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean. That's a style.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, makes you play I think
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  Speaker 3: a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't. I mean, I'm in I love I'm
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  Speaker 2: in Michigan most of the time.
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking about when you you're from the Triple, when
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  Speaker 4: you was out there doing the Hollywood thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it did. Yeah, it made me, It made me up.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm it's you know, I was so I blew
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  Speaker 2: up at nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: Man, you think it came too fast for you?
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  Speaker 2: No, I believe on the personal level, yeah, I believe
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  Speaker 2: that I didn't stick to my core energy of what
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  Speaker 2: brought me here. I believe that when you centered in God.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't like preaching and I don't like you
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  Speaker 2: better be afraid to testify. No, I know, but it's
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  Speaker 2: like sometimes people get on the radio, they always want
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  Speaker 2: to preach the stuff, but it's like, it's really the
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  Speaker 2: core of who I am. And I literally made a
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  Speaker 2: promise to God when I was a kid. I said,
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  Speaker 2: you make me famous, this is what I would do
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  Speaker 2: for you. Like, so, if you say, is there is
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  Speaker 2: there a energy pool? I do believe people do make
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  Speaker 2: dark covenants and different things. And I do think people
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  Speaker 2: make light covenants. In this case, my my covenant was
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  Speaker 2: was was was it light? I was always I was
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  Speaker 2: given the God as a child, you know, and symbol
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  Speaker 2: style you know what I mean with the anointed oil
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  Speaker 2: with so when you go like that, but you you
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  Speaker 2: can't get away from that. I tried. I tried it.
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  Speaker 5: And so during your breakaway from Hollywood, and that was
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  Speaker 5: your focus, Like I mean, I know, I saw some
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  Speaker 5: quotes that you said you wanted to just build community
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  Speaker 5: as well, kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of yeah, I know, the community center in the community
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  Speaker 2: to show up. So I'm back. I was. I tried, y'all,
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  Speaker 2: ain't even popular. I gave hundreds of thousand dollars to
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  Speaker 2: this dude, this cult leader. We sup will to build
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  Speaker 2: a community. I I don't know what's about us trying
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  Speaker 2: to build a community together where it's like this forbidden
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  Speaker 2: thing in the matrix and I just want to challenge it.
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  Speaker 2: And I realized that it's not really because we blame
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  Speaker 2: a lot of other nationalities and we got you, oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, we do though, But at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: it's like I dealt with only us for a long
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  Speaker 2: time and for seven years, and I realize that we
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  Speaker 2: have to like I went, I went, I went, I
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  Speaker 2: went to the mount the top. You know, we'll talk
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: about what you're talking about because a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: might not know.
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  Speaker 1: So you decided to try to it a cult, So
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  Speaker 1: you decided to Was it joining religion?
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  Speaker 2: Was it? No? It wasn't that. It's just the way.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say religion. It was more so understanding leaders
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  Speaker 2: that take the Bible and twist it to to control people.
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  Speaker 2: I would say, you know what I mean, that's what
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  Speaker 2: you were in. I didn't know I was in it.
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  Speaker 2: You never know when you're in the now. You know truth,
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  Speaker 2: You learn truth, want truth when people when people tell
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  Speaker 2: you the truth, but then they take that truth for
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  Speaker 2: their own power. That's when the truth is not. The
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  Speaker 2: cult is not the problem. The teachers are usually the problem,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? The shepherds that that say, okay,
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  Speaker 2: now that you know this, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: They start to you know, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: give me a wife. He becomes like, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 2: what you know what I mean? Did they ask you
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  Speaker 2: what you know? What's funny?
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  Speaker 6: You got a wife?
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  Speaker 2: Now a wife? Now listen, I'm I'm I'm not If
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  Speaker 2: you don't road bounds was a long time ago. I
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  Speaker 2: don't got four children. I'm grown, I.
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  Speaker 6: Got kids, and I thought, let's get back to the
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  Speaker 6: first question.
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  Speaker 3: I feel comfortable talking about it. That's cool to know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to save it for the special, but we
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  Speaker 2: could talk. I wish, I wish this was an interview
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  Speaker 2: for the special, but because I talk about it as special.
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  Speaker 6: But we can bring it back to the I'm trying not.
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  Speaker 2: To say jokes that's in this special. You see me,
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  Speaker 2: and that's why I'm pandering because I'm like that was
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  Speaker 2: poking a little bit, but like so, but you really
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  Speaker 2: want to know that the dramatic part of it, it
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  Speaker 2: was more. It was more so. Uh uh, it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: the whole time seven years I was in the call.
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  Speaker 2: I literally was. Uh. I started when you when you're
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  Speaker 2: trying to go and build our community together, there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of trauma. And I think people when they hold
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  Speaker 2: on to the truth and and and understanding of some
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  Speaker 2: certain scripts that they didn't put trauma on people. Is
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  Speaker 2: it the best way I can say it. Yeah, so,
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  Speaker 2: and the person wouldn't say he's in a cult, but
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  Speaker 2: he's definitely a cult.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: She asked about you know your wife and you know
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  Speaker 1: there's a video of online talking about you re dated.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah it was your ex wife technically.
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  Speaker 2: Actually.
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  Speaker 6: I was where you are?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, did you figure that out? I'll be back together,
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  Speaker 2: are we? Babe? Now I'm joking calling the babe. That's
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: y'all locked in listen. You know it's funny. We we
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  Speaker 2: we try to keep everything very private now because we
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  Speaker 2: people can just get into were but we definitely are
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  Speaker 2: a family, and we definitely are. We love each other
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  Speaker 2: very well, very much. And I would say that for me,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that I didn't give her the best
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  Speaker 2: version of myself. I would say that.
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  Speaker 6: That's very interesting to hear you, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: I'm very proud of you to hear you say that
• 12:55
  Speaker 5: accountability is hard sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be accountable. I was, I was. I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't a I wasn't the best husband, and not because
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  Speaker 2: I was. I was just gone. It wasn't the guy
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  Speaker 2: she met, you know what I mean. I was achmach badac.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what my name was at the time.
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  Speaker 3: So you was like Martin, it was.
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  Speaker 2: That's not how she met. So you know, it's like,
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  Speaker 2: we can't eat this, we can't do that. Yeah, sit
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  Speaker 2: down and all the submissive stuff. It's like you women
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  Speaker 2: and men submit to love. I learned we got to
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  Speaker 2: submit to love and love is is what's the key.
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  Speaker 2: And when I say that is selfless sacrifice, that's love.
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  Speaker 2: When you don't want to do something and you do
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  Speaker 2: it because you love that person. I think that's the
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  Speaker 2: lesson I've I've learned and I'm still learning because sometimes
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  Speaker 2: i'm I'm I'm very generous, but I'm not selfless, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? How did you get back to Brandon?
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  Speaker 2: Some prayers? My mama, Jesus bring the mouth?
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  Speaker 3: Jesus said, what did God say? Like, I'm really interesting?
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  Speaker 2: Said, I went to the mouth the top and I
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  Speaker 2: seen it. I seen I've seen it light. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen the whole thing. I was in. I was
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  Speaker 2: in the Holy land and God spoke to me on
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  Speaker 2: the mountain top and you know what he said to me.
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  Speaker 2: He said, get back to work, niggad, get back to work.
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  Speaker 3: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 2: I said, go back to work. I was done, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: And you do workman, acting yes.
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  Speaker 2: And I do the whole thing. So you said get
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  Speaker 2: back to work, and I felt it and I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: it's time.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: And it is cool because now I know my source.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: So what did God say to you that made you
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  Speaker 2: step away? Then he just ripped everything from me. He's
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  Speaker 2: ripped it. It's like just ripped it, like just as
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: fast as he gave it to me. Now I think
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: about this, I did three minutes laugh factory right and
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: became roll Bounce was my sec my first audition, got
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: an agent at CIA right from one one.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: It was a miracle, the fact that I made it
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: because they was coming to see another comic at the
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: time and then they were like, what you know, you
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: killed that set, you got a stand in ovation. Here's
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: a card. I'm like, what's cod agency? And they know
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: what COD was?
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: C A A right yeah at the time. And then
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: oh my agents got me too. So it's ridiculous. But
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: that's another story. Now now you know, I'm at buck Wall,
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: shout out to them. But I'm saying back in the day,
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: but that was the start of like the way the
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: cosmic stuff happened, where I got moved to this to
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: that and then it just it just it just it happened.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: So fast, and it was like cosmic. It was like, Okay, Boom,
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: now you got audition with Rollbounds. Now you get Boom,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: got that movie. Now you go wilding out. Nick Cannon
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: is showing you wilding out on the set of Rollbounds.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Now you on that. Then you get an audition for
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Tropic Dunner. You don't get the park. Then they call
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: you back.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: And then you get the park.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? It was always it was
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: always like that.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: I member on Club Cat Williams said you you only
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: became successful after dressing like a woman.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's the whole woman dressed thing. I'm so it.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: It's so hilarious to this conversation that never leaves the internet.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: By the way, I'm trying, I gonna give yall sound by.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: I've come here and give y'll y'all sound by. You know.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: The cool thing about Kat Williams, he he has a
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: cool way of of of of of getting people to listen.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: He has a really strategic way of saying things that
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: make people go. Is that true?
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: And he has a cool way of selling tickets doing that.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: He sold so many tickets. He sold my tickets with
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: that ship for real. When he said that my whole
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: tour was old, I was like, thanks, Kat, So it's
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: kind of like one of those things where no dress thing,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: you know. I'm so I'm so partial to the to
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: how you look at things, you see it. So, so
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: you have this error and I'm just gonna give your
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: history Martin Lawrence, uh missed out fire all this stuff
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: in the nineties were there was no Internet. Everybody's blind
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: to it, right, and then after that era you have
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle comes out on Oprah and says this thing
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: that's that was the start of it, saying what I'm saying.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: So no one knew the conspiracies or whatever it is
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: about this. Now think about it, a kid growing up
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: in the nineties, right, Brandy Jackson watching everything, I'm watching,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I'm watching Martin watching everything. Mark Johnson, Ma, ma, ma,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: you know middle Internet. So you look at you have this,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: this this knowledge of you of these things. You know
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: you're looking at it. If there was something wrong, why
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: don't we as men come to that person and say, hey,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: hey man, look you should do some research on this.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I believe this is a dark energy with that, you
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Uh, Kat never did that. I
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: respect him very much, but he never mentored And that's
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: why the mentorship in our in our community sppecial to
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: be black man, we don't. We just want to say
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: things in the media instead of calling somebody up. So
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: what is your attentions to really save me and help
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: or is your attention to bash my brand? So you're
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: gonna look better because when Martin came to me and
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: said this play is played in the movie, I was like, yes,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I'm twenty five, pay me three million dollars to work
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: with Mark Lawrence. You know what I'm saying. He had
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: this big ring, He's eating steak. I'm like, I want
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I want to you know what I mean, You're twenty five.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I need that move at twenty four, fresh off Tropic thunder.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: So it's like, no one's thinking about any of that stuff.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: So and that was the case because he said on
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: the interview, Zach words was he said, y'all don't want me,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: y'all want Brandony Jackson, right And I'm looking at him
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: on that I'm like, so, wait, you knew they were
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: gonna come for me, right like, and you told them
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: to kind of you tipped them and say, y'all need
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: to go get brandity Jackson. So was that kind of
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: pimping me out to the illuminati or was there in
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: his mind?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Or what do you feel like commedians were in addresses illuminati?
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying, that's what he's saying.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: What do you think though?
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: What do I feel? I feel that? I feel that.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't, That's what I'm saying. I don't.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: It's it's missed out fire lumin It's like someone is
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: black as a little like, I don't know what it's us.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: It's Luminadi, but one of white people is comedy your point.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I'm older than you, I'm forty six, But when I
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: was younger, I just thought it was funny. Yeah, I
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: thought it was nothing else, not even gay, like not
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: even it just was I just thought it was funny.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: I feel like when I moved to la Is when
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: I started hearing that like black men wear a dresses
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: whatever whatever, and I was like, what, I just thought
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: it was funny too.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I see both points to the defense. I never in
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: our dramatic arts, uh doing the history, we never had
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: those type of that came from Greek and Roman Greco Romans,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So if you're saying you're
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: going to be pro black and pro this, and this
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: is what we are, this is what we do, that
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: was never our art form doing that, far as as
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I can study, when I study ancient art, ancient folk tales,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: ancient storytelling, we never did that as far as I know.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: So when people say, hey, look that is a Greek
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Roman situation, then you know that could be that's an
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: argument there because we probably learned it from them. So
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: if you if you're saying this is how our nationality
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: and what we do and we're sticking together, then there's
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: an other nationality said, we're Americans and this is just art.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: So I've I just say this. People think that I
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: think I said it's one of the interviews that the
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: dress ruined. I think they actually they.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Say you said that, you said it was you said,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: you said your career went downhill after the Big Mama's House.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: You believe it was cursed because nothing went right since
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: then since you wore to dress.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: And that's yeah, but you got to look at it.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: That's also my mind was in a certain place too,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: So I would say, right, I would say when I
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: was straight away from my principles. It is one is
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: when when when things got bad on my personal life,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: you can't blame as I'm saying, you can't blame uh
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: you know your agent, you know what I mean, or
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: whatever people like to blame Hollywood. You know what I mean.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: It's not Hollywood. Is what you do with the power.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: And once I learned that, I'm like, it's not it's
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: no hoghywods. No to me, it's no invisible goals that's
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: trying to it's like God universe what they want to
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: call it. I say, Most High gives you, uh, it
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: gives you a choice to go down these these these
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: pathways to learn. And I don't really believe there's any
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: wrong choices. I believe that you're learning a lesson that
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: you have to go to get to where uh, the
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Most High wants you to be, to learn as a
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: human because we're still learning. Were still we don't know
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: the extent of God's love and we don't know this
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the extent of his judgment. We just don't know. So
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: if you have these lessons you're learning, I know I
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: would never do it again. Well, who's helping branding right now?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Going through all these and the ups and downs and
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: the pitfalls, to make sure that you mentally are okay,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Like who's helping you out during that process, because just
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: talking to it seems like it was it's been a
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: lot on a on a young kid in the industry
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that's like, I don't know who's helping branding if anybody you.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Know what my my my father, I got, I gotta,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I gotta. I got an amazing father and mother that
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: that just I can talk to like it's not you
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? And my fast nine of us.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I caught my brother up. Like, I met Holly Bury
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: the other day and I told her the picture. Yeah,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I told her, so listen, I'm taking you can't you
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: can't have me, no frudo, I was. I was so
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: nervous man. When I met Holly, I read it off
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: five movie titles for to remember who I was. She
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: know who the hell was? She was like, was like
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: was out there like I was like a big mama.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: She's like huh and She's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: traffic thunder that was. She was like, which black guy.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, well, you a lot younger. I
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: was like younger, Holly Berry, I feel. I mean, I
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: was just happy to take a picture where her. She's beautiful, man,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and she's very sweet, very very nice. I mean, I'm
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: not that that. It doesn't it doesn't bout Honestly, I
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: hate to say it, but I really don't care too
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: much anymore about that stuff. The stuff they got to
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: do it fine, Holly Berry is you know what I'm saying,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Like she's her as a human. You know, I don't
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: because she was so dope fine man. At first, I'm like,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: damn Barry, you know, And I'm like, and I saw
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: myself rattling off these things. I could see her face
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: like just say what up? You know what I mean,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: like high my own. When I saw that she was normal, by.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: The way, that very what starts.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Media.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I was nervous, bro, I was. I was so nervous
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: when I was nervous, man, what was she She was
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: in the in the Delta one skylu what yeah?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Wow?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: So she was there for a minute you could have
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, she had a boyfriend, and and I'm I'm
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm taking right now.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: You said you mentioned your brothers and your father. What
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: did they say when you put on the dress.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, no one said anything. No one said nothing
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: until Cat Williams said something.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Wondering. Didn't bother you, It never bothered you.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: And tell somebody said something about because that's the most
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: fascinating to say. When people have no problem with something.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Your conscience is fine with it, you know, your spirit
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: is cool with it. But as soon as somebody else
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: said something, now you like.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it wasn't just that. It was more so
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: my ro stayed in Atlanta for like eight months after that,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: just doing music. I don't I lost my mind on
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: that movie. I don't know what happened, you know what
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I mean. I think it was definitely was something that
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: wasn't right on that movie. I will say spiritually, I
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: will say that now I can't explain it, bro, because
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: because I stayed, my agent called me, we got this
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: new Bro. If you find out the stuff I turned down,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: tell us nice, it's depressing. But if you find out
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: stuff I turned down while they were getting me to
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: try to get out of Atlanta, my manager had to
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: get me out of Atlanta and move me. I had
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: this big penthouse. It was just wol was wild and bro,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I don't even know why I don't know if I
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: was subconstantly trying to escape stuff. But then that's when
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I had my first my first daughter. You know, I
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: can't talk about it because you know, I don't like
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: no court stuff coming over here, crying on here like
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: tyres and stuff. But I don't want to have I
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: got it. We have the same issues that you know.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to I can't say too much, but I
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: would say this that that started my legal battles personally.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: That movie when it came down to me having a child,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: going through child support court, going through all that stuff.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: That was That was the movie that that happened. But
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: that could have been because exactly could have been mean person.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: You're doing it with, Martin.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: It was a big movie.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: It was promoted everywhere in a lot of ways. It's like,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: oh he going on it.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Just understanding the impact of all of that as somebody
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: who you weren't like you said you didn't have like
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: no one called you and said, hey, this is how this.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Is going to go to one mentor cat None of
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: the mentor does they saw us talking to the media.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Just you gotta I have a whole mentorship program that
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I do. Uh, it's called making the brand where we're
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: building businesses and really teaching financial literacy. I do that
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: now because nobody be telling us how to do this.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: I get it now.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: Though It's kind of like you're navigating a room in
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: the dark trying to find the light, like the light switch,
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: when somebody's literally over there at the light switch, and
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: they're like, oh, he'll figure it out because you're doing well.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: And that's tough.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: You know what I said, who did mentor me a
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: little bit? Simbad was He's a great great MENTORBA Simbad
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: is one of the dopest and his brother Mark Atkins,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: he was one of the first ones that would showed
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: me around. That was that was the guy that was
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: really showing me how this works. And you know, he
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: he was the only, like I would say, the only
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: mentor I had. But you got nineteen. My dad didn't
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: know nothing about Hollywood and how things go. And then
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: you know, you and not not making excuses, but we
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: don't mentor other talents and and even financially, you know,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: you know, I've been through so much where I lost
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: everything with my you know, that lottery ticket scene was
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: real in real life. You know what I mean I
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: went broke, I lost everything, and then God just restored it.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I mean I'm rich again. I mean the praise God.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I'm making a lot of money and it's a blessing.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that to to brag, but it's like,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: as as as quick as it left, it came, it
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: came back.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: I wonder, right, because you know, I've seen you reference
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: to Scripture Deuteronomy twenty two five and you said that's
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: one of the like, I guess that paraphrasing, but that
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Scripture kind of forbids.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Cis gender men from wearing women's clothes. Getting that right?
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Say it again? I'm rusty right now?
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: What does that?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I think it's Leviticus.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Is it Leviticus?
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, but it's a line from the Bible that some
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: people believe for bid cis gender.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Men from wearing women's what.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: What's the it's twenty twenty five.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I thought it was Deuteronomy twenty twenty.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Now it's Leviticus.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Vinic is Alsouteronomy.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a state a woman shall not wear a man's garment,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: nor show a man put on a woman's clothes. In
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Anyone who does such things is an abomination to the Lord.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Your God scripture, Yeah, court the scripture.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: So why didn't hurt other people? Other people's careers?
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. No that that whend that
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: when I caught that.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: This on comedy hype.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I'm saying, but why did Why didn't other
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: people put the dress on? It didn't hurt their careers?
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: So why do you think it? Why do you think
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: God cursed you?
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I mean that's old, that's old something, but I believe
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I cursed myself with with with when it comes down
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: to not following you, I'll tell you this. If you don't,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: if you don't follow the ways for me, if I
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: don't follow the ways and the most I tried it,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I believe you. I'm saying my ship went down. You
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: test that anymore. But I would say I can't say it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I can't say what God's special. We don't know God's
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: grace and his love for other people. I can't say
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: what he told you to do. And he never told
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: me not to wear a dress, you know what I mean,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: not like that. He never said that. He never told
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: me not to work with Martin, But he what I
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: would say is that once I had, once I learned
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: that scripture, that's when I started to realize was it this?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: And I think it I was on a lot of
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: pre interviews while learning learning the learning scripture, and I
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: think I was talking too much on the internet without
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: getting full knowledge of the of the things. Maybe it
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: was maybe maybe it was, maybe it was that, maybe
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: it wasn't. But I would say this, I would say
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: that that experience brought me to a place where I
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: got closer. I got closer with God to understand his mercies.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I know it's mercies and I know it's judgment from
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: for me, So I can't say, uh. I mean, I've
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: seen some people sniff cocaine and go up. I mean,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: you know, you know what I mean.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Did you ever get caught into that that that Hollywood
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: life of the drugs and drinking?
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: And I don't do not. I mean I drink, but
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: like sometimes you know what I mean. I might have
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: a drink after this, but we don't get drunk. I mean,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know I smoked weed. I mean it ain't not.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: But now I'm more like, you know, I'm kind of
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: on my health stuff now. But that mean who didn't.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I never got into the extra drugs, you know, I
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: mean for.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: What I have a question now, because it seems like
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: you're in a lot, like you're in a more restored place.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He restores my soul, right, Yeah.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: I mean it gives me. It feels like you're kind
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: of working through things or have work through things. Have
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: you had a conversation with Cat Williams at this point
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: about the stuff that was said or what I've.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Been trying to have a he keep running around the internet.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I can't get Cat called me like it's easy. It's not.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I could were you'll cool before. I've always been a
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: fan of Cat, he said, never meet your heroes. I've
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: always been a fan. I love Kat Williams. Like it
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: hurts me to hear him say these these are my mentors,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean before? No in my in
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: my head in the media, like these are my my
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: comedic mentors. I'm studying these like these are people.
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: You're looking up to know?
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Why you though?
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Why did he Why do you need to my mom?
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Like Cat always talking about you. I'm like mam and
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: everybody everybody he did, but he been talking about me
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: for years, Like it's been since we was since I
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: was like twenty three twenty four.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: He said, it's been like twenty some years, right, you
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: keep going with it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what, Like, I don't know, man, but I
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: would love to sit down and have a conversation with
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Cat Williams just to be like, Nick, why, what's the problem?
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: If whatever his reason is it is like, I mean,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I really don't I really don't care, but I really
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: wouldn't know, Like why you keep talking? What's the what
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: is the social media are a llure of of me?
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Talk about somebody else?
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: You think if the person Jackson franchise would have went
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: a different way? I mean that's Perthie Jackson personally? What
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: was the person was frustration Press Jackson?
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah Jackson?
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: If that franchise would have win a different way, you
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: think things would have been different for you? What you
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: mean if they would have had more success? What do
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: you mean different from me career wise? Because everybody was
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: saying that was supposed to be like the next Harry
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Potter franchise, and I mean you see would have did
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Potter different?
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Daniel Radcliffe like, what you think that would have been
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: the same for you.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I have fun. We did that Vancouver
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: and we had a good time. I mean nothing. I
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: love my path. My path is dope. Like who the
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: comeback kid? That's about who wants to watch somebody on
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: top all the time.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Michael B.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Jordan always got muscles. You know what I mean. I
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: love it. I mean all the time. You know what
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I mean. Like you know what I mean. Like even
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: even Jonathan Majors, you know what I mean. He like
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: he's coming back and doing his resilience. It's all about
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: what story. I believe. I believe we actually write our
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: stories too. I believe subconsciously we co write with God personally.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: This is my saying is I want none of y'all
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: people to hit me up like God ain't the Bible
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: but Ible. I would say that we're co creators with
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: our decision making to learn the best thing. I think.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I actually, I think subconscously I wrote this story. You know,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I don't like to man, it's not fun to watch
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: somebody the hero God of the flawed hero. You know
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm the flawed hero. I might get
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: drunk sometimes, you know what I mean. I wore a
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: dress and got mad and got on the internet and
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: said everyone's going to hell. And then you know what,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I mean to come back with a number one TV show.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: That's that's the cool ast story.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's interesting because it feels like you've made
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: your own choices every step of the way.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I did, probably not knowing.
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: I got to say. Some of it seemed like on
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: an accident.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I think it's instant. I think it's God leading me.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: And then they said that they say lead you in
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: the path of rights, not to get so deep, but
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, like he he has and even when I
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: make mistakes. That's why I say, I can't say why
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: that didn't curse somebody else can say why is this?
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: And I can't say it really cursed me because in
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: that interview I was deep in new understanding. When you
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: have new understanding, you're not supposed to even speak out
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: about that. So I would even I would say that
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: that that movie led me down a path for me
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: to learn whatever lesson I need to learn, whether it's humility,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: because I mean people said that back in the day,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I was cool, but I was very arrogant. Arrogant but
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I was just I mean, I grew up in a
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: two parent home. My dad owns a network. You know
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. He put confidence in faith in me.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: So I was never trying to be uh. And that's
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: the thing about black legacy. We say we want family, business,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: want legacy, but then when we all, when people see it,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: they want to talk against it. Everybody want that ship.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I watched I watch this ig like like and my
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: my wife be I can't spend like that yet y'all
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: don't know the way. The way yo, that y'all be
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: y'all be killing it. I love, I love my family. Listen,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love I work for them. I
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: know me too. I'm trying to get on your level.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying what you what you do is it's
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: so dope. You know. It's such an inspiration for people
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: with family, family man, you know what I mean. And
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: we need to see that that legacy, you know, you
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. We want to see our kids
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: live great too.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of people that didn't show that.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Like you know, talk all the time about raising our kids.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: There's no instruction manual, so you've got to figure it
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: out on your own. Same thing with relationships, there's no instruction,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: manual love. A lot of times you think you're dealing
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: with it by yourself. So when you do things, whether
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: it's infidelity or insecurity or whatever may be raising your kids,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: there is nobody to be like, damn, I fucked up?
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Is it just me? So that's why I put so much.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I put the good love and I write you know,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: the books.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Real Life, Real the Family, Real Life, Real Love, because
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I want people to know that you're not the only one.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: You make mistakes, and it's okay to come backast people say,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: and he'll make fun of me, and shit, make fun
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: of me, but it's all love regardless.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I know that these people love funny.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Nobody makes fun of you. You're just goofy.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: They thought I was arrogant. I was walking in legacy.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: You see the confidence that his kids have. They walking
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: in legacy. They can say, my my father's there, my father.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I was that my my grandfather. Horace Jackson got rest
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: and so he got We got streets named at them
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: in Detroit. You know what I mean. We just build
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: a school in Ghana, Horace Jackson's Technology uh University in Ghana,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Like we gotta do these things where it's not just
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: about being famous, wearing sunglasses, smashing chicks. It's trying to
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: build legacy, and that's what I'm on. I'm not trying
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: to just be Okay, I'm Brandie Jackson, I'm past, I'm
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Brandie jacks and stuff. We're trying to build family and businesses.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I know that's a plug, but that's what we're doing,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: family and businesses. Bro, you know what I mean.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Legacy.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: But you're right, and I mean it's good to see
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: you back in a mentally healthy, emotionally sound space.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I think so anyway, I.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Think it's dope, and that's that's why I don't even
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: really want to talk to you, because I really want
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: to see your stand up because I feel like all
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: the answers are in the stand up and then we
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: can have a deeper conversation.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's. It's it's. It's it's funny because it's
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: drama and I'm funny. I'm not really. I was talking
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: to my agent about this. I'm funny in a drama.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: If you notice everything I've done. That was like, I mean, honestly,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to say this, but I don't care.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I don't think big Mamaself is a good movie. I
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: think it's horror movie personally, Remember exactly.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: Why do you think it's a horrible movie.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: It's a good movie because because when you have a
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: tropic thunder palette offense, when you're around those dudes that
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: are writing like like like Danny McBride just in the row,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: they writing the highest octane of high level satire. Mail Brooks.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: When you study comedy slapstick, I don't like slapstick. I'm
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: not good as a slow.
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: Bar comedy like it was like easy punch.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: It's slap I'm not a slapstick artist. I'm funny in
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: a drama. You know, the best was that was Eddie
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: was always funny in dramas. Beverly Hills Cop is a drama.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Martin does better, and he actually both. He does great
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: slapstick because this whole show was slapstick.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: But Martin's of the best physical comedians.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, physical comedians, but he can do both. Martin and
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: the drum. Bad Boys is a drama.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Life was a drama.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Was the drama. So when when that's why I'm like
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Big Mama, slapstick it, you know, it's not it's not
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: challenging it's phoning it in, getting the check, dressing up.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: So but now with this, this film I have with
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: family business, I mean it's people like, man, you go
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: acting this. I'm like, it's good. I know. You can
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: do drama like dramas. Drama's easy. Comedy is hard. So
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I think I'm I'm the king of drama. Y I
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: would say, I can do both. I can do drama comedy,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Very evenly.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: What's special it's called chest out drama is more of.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I would say. I mean, it's it's not like it's
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: not as heavy as as Jamis was, but it's it's
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: definitely it's the through line is drama. You know what
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I mean. Leaving your wife and going to damn Nashville.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, and in white coats and sheets and stuff,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: and your wife is sitting at home like, you know
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: what I mean, where's my husband at? When does that
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: come out? When can we see that? If y'all keep
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: shouting out, we get a great deal. So we're negotiations
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: with like two networks right now. So I just like,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't I mean Netflix, y'all. Y'all said,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: y'all must have been eighteen billion. Kind come on, I
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: really I really like Netflix because I think they know
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: what to do. Amazon's been great with specials lately, you know,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, it's funny people get people had
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: on Toby. First of all, I love Tooby. Movies Club
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: is on Toby. I know, yes, love to Be. I
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: gotta deal with to Be. Actually, and my bros are
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: people Detroit are making mad beautiful and they're owning their piece.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: So directly, yeah, meet, I loved you.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I love Toby. To Be is great too. At first,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: it was, you know, it kind of got random, like
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't getting Dinzel Washington. You get Denzel Washington, you
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, be some bouleg Denzel. And then uh,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: you know Ethan Hank, Evan Falcon. Uh sorry, so the
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: eating honk but no. But now it's like, I feel
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: like we laugh at that. But then you start seeing
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: all these producers come up, you know what I mean, Detroit,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: all my bros. Shout out to Dennis reed Man, Robinson,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: all these guys that that are killing in the film game,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: and Tooby is definitely an option. I love Toby. To
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Be is great there. They're definitely an option with that,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: so I could keep my ownership. You know what I'm saying.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: So's we'll see. But with the special therapeut you oh
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: hell yeah, yes, yes, and uh you know, you know
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: I would say Terrence. Me and Terrence talk a lot,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: no see, Terrence Howard, we talk a lot about how
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: we're not understand both pisces. So a lot of people
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: don't understand you know, the vicious fishes, right, we got
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: one fish that you know, I would say it's very
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: composed and the other fishes little crazy, I would say, crazy,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: but emotional them. And we talk about how we were
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: misunders I'm eccentric, so we're misunderstood, you know what I mean?
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: So when I went out one Terrence, me and him,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: you know, we talk a lot about know what he
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: goes through, how he no, he's just like he's actually
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: right about what he's said. But nobody he's in the
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: special Actually.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think you're misunderstood. People just don't know
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: the story. You got seven years on Terrence, I'm talking
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: about you. Yeah, I got seven years to fill in,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: and I think that's the specialist.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Going to do it.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: We only knew what we saw, like media wizing like
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: little bits of things here and there like sodom. Yeah,
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: when you were in you would say the boy would
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: go it would be everywhere.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I don't even know that.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: And you don't want us to listen to YouTube YouTube,
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: Crazy.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I knew he was gonna go here too in this MBI.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I'm happy you did because no one really actually talk
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: about you know, where have I been in that in
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: that layers and and even to be mature enough to
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: to speak about it in a way where I'm not
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: emotional about it and not hurt. I'm healed and to
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: see uh, to see where I'm at now is a blessing.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: But I would I would say this that I would
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: say that I would. It was a spiritual hazing. Also,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I think God was was was was testing me. He
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: does this a lot with with people, and that's you know,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I only say I hate that word chosen, but people
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: that he has a purpose for. He'll rip everything from
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: you to see if you're still going to be with him,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: if you love and I don't even say him, but it,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: if you love it or the most high, if he
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: loved more than your your your career, more than everything
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: more than your family. And he did it to Joe.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: He ripped everything from it. And I guess I I
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: think I passed that. I don't want to go through
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: that again. I'll tell you that.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Did you see Kyrie Irvan nothing that when he towards
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: a c l.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: In his eyes and he went to the free throw line,
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: and you know, because he had to take the two
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: shots before he exited the game. He hit one and
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: right before the second he said, thank you God. Wow
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: with the tory, they said he knew something was completely wrong,
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: probably knew this is really bad injury.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: He said, thank you God. Yeah.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: So just like you know, we like to give praise
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: to God when things are going good. But if you
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: really truly are believing, if you really truly have faith,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: you gonna thank God when things are good and bad
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: so called back Because I don't believe either. I don't
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: believe it's so called good also called bad. I believe
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: everything is just part of a process.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm learning, That's why I'm getting to that.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I'm that, Yeah, you want a journey.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: We don't want a journey. You had a different chapter
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: in your life right.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: Now, BTJ be the journey right now, How did all
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: of this the stuff that you went through and then
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: once you're healed, like then you come back to acting
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: with like family business, how do you what are you
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: channeling from all of this in your role now? Because
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: I think in this role, I was more surprised to
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: see you be like serious the bad guy like not
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: but like there's like guns and it's like like, I
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: don't know, you were just always so clean to me
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: in like a lot of the work that you Yeah, like,
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: so how are you channeling that or is that even
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: a thing?
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: In the family business New Orleans?
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: You know, you know, it's funny because we had a
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: we had a my dad had a shoe company called
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Wayne T. Shoes back in the day in Detroit the
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: middle Detroit place get robbed and stuff. But we were
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: running the store. That that is the like even though
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I grew up in the hood and the suburbs, I
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: would say, my, my, my, my, my seven mile Woodward
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: businessman watching my dad run a business. Guns, you know
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: what I mean. I won't say too much, but like
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: people try to rob the we had the gators and
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: every people try to Coolie's and all that. People try
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: to rob them. You know we would have you know,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: we would have to you know, chase them off and
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: do this. So I remember the times that my dad
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: would you know. I remember this one time, this trucker
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: pull pull us over my dad hopeing he'll get mad
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: with telling story because my dad was, you know, he
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: from the streets before he became a pastor, drug dealer
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: before he became a pastor, which is most Detroit preachers,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: so he still had that edge and everything. So I
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: remember one time this truck uh pulled us over, I
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: mean run us off the road. My dad's like five
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: a's like my size five eight. And I watched him
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: pull this trucker out, his white truck or the trucker
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: at out of the freaking car. He was like six
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe six two sixty three, pulled him on the
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: ground and I was like, nick, I can't say the
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: n't word right. He said, He was like, nigga, have
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: you ever mess with my family? I was like, yo,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: so I swim My dad roar as a lion, and
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: the dude was he was jacking him up. My mom
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: was like, stops. So I'm challenged. I'm channeling my father kind.
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: Of character in the show he's very yay.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I'm channeling that that energy that is really not mine.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: It's really my dad's energy. Because I grew up pretty,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: you know, pretty pretty cool. You know, I didn't really
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: have I'm not gonna be like I'm I grew up nice,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: but we also grew up running businesses in Detroit. The
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: church was over here, the shoe store was across the street.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I had to wash the shoe store. I have to
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: shine the shoes, I had to wash the register. So
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: that I grew up in the family business. So I'm
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I'm challenging. I'm channeling that. The white side you see
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: is my West Bloomfield, you know, all white neighborhood. I
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: got both, you know what I mean. That's kind That's
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: why my jacket probably looked like this. I got I'm
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: a variation of things, you know what I mean. So
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: we look forward to seeing you.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: And Chris Webber is the family business as a Christmopher,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: call Weber and also when we when you're special, come on, come.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Back up so we can talk about that specially. I
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: would love to. I'm listen and I'm it's fine. You
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: give me your honest opinion. I've I've what I would say, I.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: I screened it for a lot of people, and it
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: got it got in a lot of festivals, and it's
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: my agent said, don't put in the festivals because we
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: want to present it, you know, a certain way. But
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: it got a lot of good reviews from a lot
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: of people that watched it. So actually your opinion actually
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: counts to me in comedy because I know you're tough,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: You're you're you're a tough critic. You're analytical too, so
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: I can see what you're like watching you know, like
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: when they bomb and watching people figure it out.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: I love dramedy, drama, dramedy specialist like I love uh.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: I think Neil Brennan did a phenomenal job with three mics.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah he did with that. I love Kevin Hart's last one,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: The Reality Check.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: I thought that was really good. And I like Andrew
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Schultz new one in Life.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah Andrew, because he's talking about him and his wife's
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: difficulty of having a child, but it was his fault. Yeah,
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: he had the Week's for him and I liked. I
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: like seeing people process their traumas through comedy.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: My next one's classy Rebel. I want to I want
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: to talk about. I'm talking about the the world. Man.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: I'm just tired of the viewpoints of politics on us.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: I thinking like a little political in this next one.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: I remember, I remember you said you hate the fake.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: WoT fake?
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I hate the fake. I hate fake revolutions like, if
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: we gonna do it, let's do it. I don't like
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't do fake because I was ready.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I was the only one ready to really ride. That's
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: why I was ready to go, y'all. I created my
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: own currency. I was we was going, and nobody came.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: I was the only one. You had a whole Yeah,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: we had a whole thing. No, it wasn't crypto. It
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: actually could still work if you do it right.
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: But what was it?
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: It was called love notes? He remember that love notes.
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: Like usher Bucks?
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it's not.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Where do you spend them?
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Well, the infrastructure for it was it wasn't gonna actually
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: stimulate the American economy and our own economy at the
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: same time. So it was it was actually, I don't
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: want to actually give this a weakness. Mandy might try
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: to do it, but I give enough away. I would
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: say that because I'm not gonna give you the infrastructure,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: but the way it would work, we actually could pay
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: things forward for people and from their businesses. It was
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: creating the ecosystem for African Americans without hurting because when
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: you when you just take your own and say we're
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: gonna be all stappary, forget that, they always shut that down.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: So it was like, how do you barter with all Americans?
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: How do you barter with uh white Americans? And how
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: you bortered with because you still got to do business.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: So in this case, it was like, let's not be
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: just fully Marcus guard be in a situation. Let's stimulate
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: our economy, you know, in our ecosystem, but let's also
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: take it and out their ecosystem. So it was more
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: of a coupon system that that paid things forward for
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: people that created economists called love notes, So it was
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: selfless sacrifice of love notes. You can you can pay
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: things forward. And we had a little card and everything
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I got, I got the whole financial system to help
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: the backman everything and then and then.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: I would pay to listen to a full conversation between
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: you and Terrence Hout. I know you told Terrence I
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: got the math for that.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, well, he actually does. I
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: got the math that it actually works too. If you,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: if you really it's it's we're actually free. If you really,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: if you really know the knowledge of it were we're
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: actually free. Guys, We're not.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: Really.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I don't think we're in captivity. I agree, Brandon T. Jackson.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate you for joining us. Thank you, sir.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: in the morning.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: Break as Club