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CALL IN SHOW! Passport Bros and Empathy: Do Men Really Need It? | Brian's Badger Lodge · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger or Radio. My name is Brian
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  and this is the Badger Lodge. It's our call in show. Try to
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  do it once a month at least, where you guys can call in and
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  Get an idea of what it is you're calling about, and then post
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  do, The link is in the description to our discord. We just want
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  to encourage conversation. This is not a one way street, and conversations my
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  favorite thing, so I link is in the description. Now I tried usually
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  to find something to talk about on these shows. So today I want to
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  talk about passport bros. Because passport bros Is in it's it's sort of in
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  the conversation, you know, like various people on from different perspectives are discussing
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  passport bros As a concept, their feelings on it, their opinions, and
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  so on. So I guess before we jump jump into passport bros, I
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  thought I would we need we need some definitions and kids, you don't know.
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  So Urban Dictionary obviously passport bros Is like internet thing. So the Urban
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  Dictionary describes or defines passport ros is as following. The passport ros are men
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  who have chosen to seek out foreign women, typically from other countries, for
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  relationships. They believe that Western women have been influenced by cultural and societal pressures
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  to behave in a certain way that is a feminist way, but they're not
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  really making that plain for some reason, and that by seeking out foreign women
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  they can find a more authentic, fulfilling, and harmonious relationship. This is
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  seen as a way to restore the natural balance between masculine and feminine energy and
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  to avoid the wickedness which they put in quotes of Western women. And obviously
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  women have thoughts and opinions on passport ros. So I thought, I have
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  a series of clips of women reacting. So I guess we can like make
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  it, put it in a more a simpler way. Okay, think of
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  it like this. Passport Ros is like Mike Tao, but with a little
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  bit more hope. So Mike Tao usually just avoid women altogether, and that's
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  fine, that's their choice. Passport Bros basically are like they're saying, Okay,
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  I'm gonna avoid Western women. I'm gonna go to another country, at
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  least one that's far removed from the places like the United States, the UK,
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  Europe, Canada or whatever. So they might go to South America.
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  For example, step Bruley is in South I think he's in He's not in
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  America, but he's like in either the Caribbean or South America somewhere, and
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  he is his life is a lot better there. For example, people go
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  to Thailand, they go to Asia, they go to Japan, they go
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  to maybe parts of the Nordic you know, parts of the of the world
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  or whatever, and they try to find a good woman there. So that's
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  why they call them passport Bros. And I think it's you could say,
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  it's kind of a milder version of Miketo Monk, where miktoo just completely avoid
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  women altogether. So anyway, this has become a growing phenomena, growing popular
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  phenomena, and it's understandable because most men, you know, legitimately want to
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  get married and you know, start a family, and they think if they
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  can find a woman that hasn't been influenced by Western feminism, which is essentially
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  what this is about, then they would be more successful and happier. So
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  let's look at some women's takes on passport Bros. I'm gonna play a clip
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  here. Port bro was until one of my recent videos did well. Now
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  I have a misfortunate of knowing what the fuck that is. And my only
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  question is who's going to tell them? Who is going to tell these men
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  that American women are some of the last demographics of women to catch up with
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  what worked we're talking about right now? Do you think Russian women are going
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  to put up with your ship? You think Asian women are going to go
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  fifty fifty with you on the bill? Do you think French women are going
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  to sleep with you just because you showed up. Oh all right, so
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  bitter angry American woman. This is an example. This is been It's been
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  from Western women, especially American and Canadian women. This has been the general
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  tone of the reaction to men who are using their own resources, their own
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  time, their own money to essentially find a woman outside of the country.
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  Not a new concept, been doing it for literally since time memorial. So
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  I don't know if she's got more to say, I'll play some more of
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  this one. Who's gonna tell him? The reason why you can't find a
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  additional woman in America anymore is because there's no such thing as a traditional home
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  or family structure because of the way our economy is fucking us all over right
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  now. I gotta say something, No, that's not why. It's the
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  sexual revolution. It's feminism. It's not the economy, it's the welfare state,
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  it's the government, etc. But of course, you know, women
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  they can't, they don't know, they don't know who to blame. But
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  it's never them. And I think it's ironic that American women in response to
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  this, are going, oh, I can make my own money and I
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  don't have to have kids and go through the painful process of labor and raising
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  children alone. And I don't have to pretend to like someone's grubby little son
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  in order to make ends meet, in order to survive. I have literally
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  all the options of the world. Oh, I'm gonna be a career woman
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  and I'm going to be alone. You are and be alone. I'm sorry,
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  I just realized that my camera is like behind. I'm sorry, guys,
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  hold on a second. I'm gonna move this behind in front of the
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  restream thing. Okay, there we go. Hello, Sorry about that.
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  Woo. Yeah, capitalism is doing it. Of course it is, of
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  course. Okay, let's let's play a little. I think she's still going
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  Jesus Christ. This goes on for a while, okay. And men's response
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  to this is better renew my passport, because you guys are the ones who
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  are afraid to be alone. You guys are the ones who would rather go
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  to fly to a foreign country and find a wife than be alone. We'll
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  check back with her in like ten years and see how she's doing. No.
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  No, The thing is, human beings generally need each other, like
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  we are social beings. We have always been social beings. There is the
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  occasional outlier, but in general that is the case. And this woman is
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  just she's really just talking to herself. She's telling herself it's gonna be okay.
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  If only women had ever stopped to ask themselves, if men are fleeing
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  to other countries to date women outside of this country, what are we doing
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  wrong? But they're not. They're just like, oh, you're mad because
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  I'm girl bossing and I'm like getting it done and all of that. Okay,
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  So anyway, here's another video. This woman is in a Bangkok airport
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  and she is noticing, well, this is what she notices. She's in
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  Bangkok, Thailand. Okay, honestly, the amount of white dudes with Thai
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  women that are waiting support international fights. It's an assert It is crazy.
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  Not that she says, a lot of white men. Hold on a minute,
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  black men from America they can't get in, No, so they go
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  to third world countries. Is I haven't seen a white yet? Are there
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  white men in this because I feel like it's only I guess it's a Western
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  main thing, not just black men. Right. Half of the couples in
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  this airport right now are beautiful thigh women with super basic white dudeens. So
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  I love that this guy, this just gentlemen here points out that it's not
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  white dudes, it's just Western dudes. So the race nothing to do with
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  it. I think there should be obvious to you, guys. You can
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  see this clear's day. The racial thing is a distraction. There's just men
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  and the women that are supposed to be there, you know there. I
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  guess you could say traveling partners or whatever. The but in life they are
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  just dogging them. And now these men are like, you know what,
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  I'm gonna go somewhere else. So here's another one. This is on the
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  Whatever podcast. I just want you to see the pattern. Okay, I
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  deserve to have a traditional wife. They want to be a passport bro.
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  And I'm like, Bro, you're fat, you're broke, you don't deserve
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  a traditional wife. You need to level up the same way they want a
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  traditional girl. The girl she's gonna be way more traditional back in my country.
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  So trust me, she's not marrying you for love. She's marrying for
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  your green card. So are you against passport bros? Or I understand the
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  fundamentals of it for those who have done everything in life to make sure they
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  are a man. But if you're not a man, I don't think you
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  deserve that. Honestly, if you don't have your life together, what makes
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  you think you know how to appreciate a traditional wife. If some other guy
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  who's living here who's never had an idea of what a male figure is in
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  his life, he's going based off whatever little content he picks from the internet,
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  he's saying, well, I want a traditional wife. But therefore he
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  doesn't even have like a credit score, he doesn't even have like his his
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  life in check. He's still m the hoopie from high school that you want
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  a traditional girl, Like, what happens when you bring that girl over?
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  Yeah, you're gonna basically make her a Western woman and she's gonna realize that
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  this guy doesn't have a ship together. Now she's gonna cheat on you.
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  So pretty pretty negative way of looking at it. I think that it's true
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  that if a passport bro brings a girl back to America the women here are
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  or to Canada or whatever the West UK, the women are probably going to
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  corrupt her. I remember an Nie Murphy joke like this is from I think
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  it was from raw his bit that he did. So this was like nineteen
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  eighty five, nineteen eighty six, something like that. Eddie Murphy did a
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  joke where he was talking about how hard it is to find a good woman
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  and that he would wanted to travel to Africa to like some like you know,
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  try excuse me some tribal part of the of the continent. Whether women
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  don't know anything about the West, they don't anything about feminism, they don't
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  know anything about it. Uh and and you know, pick up one of
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  those. I think he jokingly called her umfu foo Okay, and he told
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  the story of like he turned into a bit that he did on the stand
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  up. This is the mid eighties, Okay. He brings her back to
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  America and she is like, you know, totally everything whatever whatever he wanted,
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  right, and then like he because she stays home, she takes care
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  of the house, she raised the kids, et cetera. Eddie gets to
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  go to work and they have like a copasetic relationship. Everybody's happy. And
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  then the neighbor women come over and they start talking to her and they start
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  feeding her info and you're like, do you realize you could take half his
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  shit? Did you realize you could take half his shit. And then and
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  then Eddie comes back and she's like, Eddie, you know, I want
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  to have Eddie, what have you don formulately? And that's the joke.
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  And this is like the nineteen eighties, so so we knew we knew about
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  this, okay, And and it's true. I mean, I think that
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  with the passport, bros, you have to either stay over there, you
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  know, work remotely and stay in whatever country you're gonna go to if that's
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  what you're gonna do. But I'm okay with it, man, Like you
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  know, I say, guys, do if you think you can do it
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  and you think it's worth it, then I say, fucking go for it.
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  Just do it right. These women they're they're not your friend. You
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  know. I'm gonna play. I got two more clips from this to play.
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  So this is Lauren Chen. Now, Lauren Chen did a video about
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  it, and I gotta say Lauren Chen was pretty supportive. But I'm gonna
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  tell you why. But first let's play a little bit of this. But
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  do you think so many men are traveling overseas to find wives? In other
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  countries? Men are traveling overseas to finding wives the other good why I'm right
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  here, I'm single. No, hey, I want to be married.
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  They are traveling overseas to countries that have less money and less education. It's
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  because they want a woman who is dependent on them for their livelihood, for
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  their resources, to have a good life. And I don't think that that
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  is a good thing. This Passport Bros video going around, We're American women
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  are getting kind of upset. What are we going to escape this mentality?
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  She said that these bros are not marrying foreign women because they speak a little
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  English or because they have a lack of education. So there is so these
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  Western women and you notice that it doesn't matter what they're racist. They're Western
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  women. They're American, they're Canadian, they're from the UK, whatever.
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  They are convinced that if you are a passport bro, you're only doing it
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  because the women in those other countries are inferior. That's what they're saying.
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  They don't say it, but that's what they're saying. Okay, they're saying
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  that these foreign women are uneducated because I mean, of course, like one
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  would hope, because when you go to school in the West, what they're
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  calling an education is really just feminist propaganda, right, So they're saying,
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  these women aren't woke, therefore they're gonna love their men anyway because they're more
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  nourishing and more caring. You're describing a maid a free lift and one for
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  the rest of your life at that. Have you noticed that the ones who
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  are chanting passport bros. Are the same ones that are also chanting about how
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  they don't want to pay for dates. So they basically want you to believe
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  that they can't afford dinner, but they can afford a passport and a flight
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  out of the country. Let's talk about passport bros. All right. So
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  let me just say, because I know people want to Lauren Chen not okay
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  with the way these women are raging. And I think the primary reasons I
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  like Lauren. I've had her on the show before, but it's a long
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  time ago. The reason why is because Lauren is herself an immigrant. So,
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  like, what they're doing is they're they're they're criticizing men for going out
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  with foreign women because foreign women at least the logic is that these foreign women
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  have different values that are more compatible with what these men are looking for,
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  right, because what these men are most of these passport bros, they're they're
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  not just like I guess some of them are going out there just to like
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  get their dick wet. But I think a lot of them are looking for
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  like wife material, and they're not finding wife material in the West. Sorry,
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  but that's just what it is, right. All of these women out
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  here are trying to boss girl or girl boss their way through life. They
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  don't want to get married. They put things off, they're taking birth control,
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  they're they're you know, sleeping around, they're doing all this self destructive
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  shit. And the men that are, I guess you could say, like
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  the men that are looking for something real, they're not seeing it there.
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  So and of course these women are angry and and it blows my mind because,
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  like, just to be clear, this isn't. This isn't I was
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  gonna say this, This isn't because they're like left wing women or anything.
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  This is just women. Let's like take the politics out for a second.
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  It's just women. And I will prove it because here is Brett Cooper trying
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  to explain what a passport bro is to Ben Shapiro, and I don't know,
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  you know. Brett Cooper is a Daily Wire host that has her own
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  show. She's a zoomer, and although she is generally in support of the
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  existence of passport bros, she does kind of roll her eyes at the idea
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  that Western women are lost. So let's let's hear that passport bros. What
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  is a passport? Okay, Passport bros are men that are so fed up
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  with Western women because we're all apparently so woke and so terrible, and Western
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  women don't want to be wives that they are now going to other countries to
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  find wives. Right, So you can see that she's kind of putting in
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  in quotes. I think. I think there's a part of her that's annoyed
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  that that's a thing that exists. But again, this is the mistake that
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  like just about everyone makes, which is that men have to do something like
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  that. Men are supposed to be doing something different, And the truth is
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  is that it's women that have to do something different. It's women that have
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  to take a look at themselves in the mirror. It's women that have to
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  make a change. You know, there's a guy I like a lot.
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  His name is LP, and LP runs a channel called I Hypocrite. You
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  may have heard of Hypocrite. He used to do MRA stuff like a long
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  time ago, and but he's sort of moved away from that. He's like,
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  you know, he's got different things going on, but he still occasionally
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  talks about men and women. But he's a lot more trad these days.
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  And not only him, a lot of a lot of trads have said this
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  too, and I and I find it laughable because here we are. They
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  have said that, oh, this is like I think another guy that says
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  this is Michael Noland, some of the like kind of paleo Kon type guys.
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  They'll say that if men lead, women will follow. So basically,
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  if men just say this is what I want, this is what we're going
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  to do, then the women will just follow. And the truth is that's
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  not happening. And I told LP about it. I said that there have
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  been studies that have come out. I don't have them in front of me,
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  but we might, I don't know. We might cover this on another
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  show. There are studies that have come out that show that the Generation Alpha
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  and the Zoomers, the men are moving further to the right and the women
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  are moving further left, which means the women are not following suit. And
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  that divide is growing, and it seems like women are just interested in rebelling,
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  rebelling against everything masculine, all men. And so when men say,
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  well, I guess I'm going to go be a passport bro, it's like
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  the women react to that, and the same way they do to Mike Tao.
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  They get angry because they don't even though they don't want anything to do
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  with them. They'll say, oh, I don't want anything to do with
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  you because you're a loser and all these other things. But they don't want
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  you to go and do your own thing. They want they want you to
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  want them so they can so they can project you. And I'm sorry,
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  but that's what's happening. And you know, LP came to the realizations like,
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  it doesn't look like it's gonna it doesn't look it's gonna happen. You
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  know. He jokingly said, we're gonna have to oppress these women. But
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  I mean, obviously that's not gonna happen. And one of the other reasons
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  for this too. This is another reason that I think is somewhat within reach.
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  And I don't know how you guys are gonna feel about this, but
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  something has to be done about simps because I think simps are the problem right
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  now. Like if there were, if there was so little simping that men
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  were all either just saying these are my standards or they're just not getting involved,
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  I think that would be enough of a kick in the ass for women
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  to change. But as long as there are simps, then this won't change.
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  So we have to end simping. I don't know, like we need
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  like a hashtag or some kind of tagline, but that's where I'm at right
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  now. There shouldn't be no simping. That has to end because that is
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  what enables this bad behavior. And the men that are like the commie men
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  and the male feminists, those are the worst of the simps, the worst
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  ones. So to me, that's gotta go. I have sympathy, bro,
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  I'm sorry that you're like in this spot where you feel like you need
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  to white Knight for women. You want to be the one good man,
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  but you got to stop it because you're making it worse. Women will never
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  figure out that they are the problem. I don't know, I don't know.
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  The simping has to stop, So death to simps. Well, I
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  don't want to kill any sims, but like no simping, Like, if
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  you see simping, you have to, like, you have to troll that
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  person. You have to tell them no, Okay, simping has to end
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  because women are not doing what they're supposed to be doing. They're not they're
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  not even listening to men. They're like you again. The Barbie movie has
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  made over a billion dollars. It overtook The Dark Night. I think it
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  overtook like some other really big movie recently in terms of how much it's made.
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  This is despite everybody knowing what the message is. You know, it
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  just it just tells you what women think about men. That's like all you
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  need to know. Right, that has to stop. So there was that,
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  and I don't see any calls. So guys call into the show.
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  Give me some thoughts on what do you think about Passport bros? Do you
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  think that it's cringe? Is it based? Is it like you? Are
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  you a passport bro? Do you know somebody you know? I mean I
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  want to know, But yeah, Lauren Chan though you know, in her
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  defense, she did make a VI. She's the only person, the only
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  woman I saw. Maybe Pearl did too, but I haven't seen a video
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  on her on it in a while. That was like, I get it.
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  I know why men are doing this. And of course she's because she's
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  half Chinese and she was I think she was born in Canada, but or
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  born in China and came here. I don't know, but her father is
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  Chinese from like you know, Beijing or something, and the I could be
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  wrong about that, don't don't bother correct him. I just know he's Chinese.
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  He married a Western woman and came here, so he was a passport
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  bro in the other direction. Don't know if that was a mistake, but
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  you know, there there is that. I mean. Oh so I got
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  a message from High Inquisitor swash Berry and he says, I think that a
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  lot of these women are talking about with regard to passport brows raises an interesting
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  question that none of them seem to be asking. What do people want in
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  a partner that they're willing to work hard to acquire? Well? Yeah,
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  I mean, what are they looking for that they're willing to get a passport,
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  get on a plane and fly to another country just to meet someone?
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  Like? That's how that's that is? Is that how hard it is out
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  here is and how bad it is? Like I'm glad I'm married, man,
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  But I could see that, like if if if my wife and I
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  ever got a divorce, and I don't, I don't, you know,
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  knock on wood, I don't see that happening because we love each other so
• 23:56
  much. But if that were to happen, man, I wouldn't. I
• 24:00
  would I'd be done. I wouldn't try again, I'd be I'd walk out,
• 24:03
  I'd be done with relationships, right because, like I mean, guys,
• 24:07
  you know you you you definitely like one of the things that sho on
• 24:11
  head. And this is another thing I'm it's kind of calling back to the
• 24:15
  Chuan Head video Sho's somewhat loneliness because this passport browth thing is kind of like
• 24:18
  one of the solutions. Right. So one of the things that Chuan Head
• 24:25
  mentioned was how bad dating apps are. And I don't think that dating apps
• 24:30
  are. I don't think they're they're a problem. I think that what you
• 24:36
  what you have to assume if you're a man on a dating app, is
• 24:38
  that most people on dating apps are not there looking for marriage material or whatever
• 24:45
  long term serious relationship material. So if you're just there to get your dick
• 24:49
  wet, good luck. I wouldn't fuck with it. But if you are
• 24:53
  looking for something serious and you're on a dating app, you just have to
• 24:56
  make that the first sentence in your fucking profile, like I am looking for
• 25:00
  wife material, I'm looking for someone to marry, right or whatever, if
• 25:04
  that's what you want. And I think that will eliminate most of the thought
• 25:10
  ary that goes on right off the bat. I don't think you're gonna have
• 25:12
  to deal with thoughts, at least thought as much. You know, there
• 25:15
  are definitely reformed thoughts, like women that are trying to like get their ship
• 25:19
  straight. No kids with other men, no thoughts, no X thoughts.
• 25:29
  But anyway, Yeah, she mentions how bad dating apps are in terms of
• 25:33
  what women are choosing because women are picky and that's not something we can really
• 25:37
  do anything about. But it's gonna it's gonna in a way, it's gonna
• 25:41
  take women putting other women in their rightful place. This is another reason why
• 25:47
  I like Pearl, because she's intentionally triggering women online. She just tried to
• 25:51
  figure out what's gonna piss them off the most, and she just does that
• 25:55
  And I'm okay with that. I think that, you know, it's like
• 25:57
  somebody has to do it, and I don't think like if a man did
• 26:00
  it, they wouldn't listen to them. But if a woman does it,
• 26:04
  there it's gonna ruffle some feathers for sure, but maybe they'll hear something that
• 26:08
  they needed to here. So anyway, please call in. I'm gonna uh
• 26:15
  that we could go to the link in the description, join us in the
• 26:18
  discord if you want to say something, even if you just want to make
• 26:22
  a comment about this. Uh, this today's show is probably only gonna go
• 26:25
  for like an hour because I got some other stuff that I have to do.
• 26:30
  But hopefully somebody will call in and yeah, we'll hopefully we'll see you,
• 26:36
  see you guys soon. So let's there's okay, so the other thing.
• 26:41
  So that's it for Passport Roads for now. I say, you know,
• 26:45
  good luck, dudes. I hope that this works out. And you
• 26:49
  know, maybe, I mean, I think I met Lauren Chann a couple
• 26:52
  of times, and she seems like a really sweet girl. I you know,
• 26:56
  like there's some she's not completely red pilled on the feminist question. At
• 27:00
  least she wasn't when I talked to her last, which was like a few
• 27:03
  years ago. But she is not afraid to like sort of walk that path,
• 27:10
  whereas somebody like Shoe, for example. She's known about what we do,
• 27:14
  she's known who we are for like a long long time, and she
• 27:18
  hasn't really said, hey, you should check out the honey Badgers like on
• 27:22
  her video. I went to the links of the description and they were like
• 27:26
  Sean and Jen like, I know I've said this before, but like these
• 27:27
  are like male feminists, like super male feminists, Like please don't go to
• 27:33
  male feminists for help. They're the thing that has to stop. Those are
• 27:36
  the simps. The sims have to go. Men have to self actualize.
• 27:41
  Sims are not gonna help them, They're just gonna make them serve women.
• 27:44
  You know who else it was like the it was like a minister of Scotland.
• 27:48
  I forgot his name, but he wrote a piece for The Guardian I
• 27:52
  read on the after show yesterday and he was like, I'm gonna be with
• 27:56
  the new Andrew Tate for the Left for men right, And all he's doing
• 27:59
  is saying, men, you have to, like you have to apologize to
• 28:02
  women for rape culture, and you have to like, you know, you
• 28:04
  have to like step in when other men say things or do something sexist.
• 28:08
  Every man is guilty of this. Blah blah blah. It's so useless.
• 28:15
  You know, thou shalt not simp the eleventh commandment. That's what it should
• 28:21
  be, all right. So that was the first thing I wanted to talk
• 28:26
  about. Hopefully somebody will call in. Link is in the description takes you
• 28:30
  into the discord, go into the screen room, talk to Squash, tell
• 28:32
  him what you want to say or ask or whatever, and then he'll bring
• 28:36
  you on to talk to me. All right. So the other thing I've
• 28:38
  been thinking a little bit about, and my wife I think she made an
• 28:44
  interesting point about this. So this is also about Shoe on Head's video because
• 28:49
  I had to think about it. Okay, So the does this talk about
• 28:53
  the empathy gap or the fact that these men who are lonely are getting empathy?
• 29:00
  And I know this is hard, but I do wonder if Well,
• 29:07
  here's what I think, and I'm going to ask you as a question.
• 29:10
  Okay, I think that empathy like just saying I feel sad because you're sad.
• 29:18
  I don't think it's useful. I think it's just virtue signaling, because
• 29:22
  like Shoe isn't gonna do anything for these men. She's just saying, look
• 29:26
  at how sad these men are, and she shared a bunch of like comments
• 29:30
  from her comments section, and she's asking for sympathy for these men that are
• 29:37
  lonely. And I get it. I've been lonely before, and I'm sure
• 29:40
  that a lot of you guys have been lonely at some point, if not
• 29:42
  everyone, at some point in their life. But the thing is is that
• 29:47
  is the acknowledgement of that really helpful. So and I think that when people
• 29:55
  like Shoe or others simply share, look at how sad this guy is,
• 30:00
  but they don't actually have a real solution. And I think a lot of
• 30:04
  the reasons why is because the solution is something they don't want to confront,
• 30:08
  you know, like I don't know, maybe I should be helping him make
• 30:15
  friends, or maybe I should become his friend or whatever it is, right,
• 30:18
  they don't want to confront that. Or the real tough one is that,
• 30:22
  you know, I have to look at what women are doing to these
• 30:26
  men, you know, where what are what are women? Where are their
• 30:29
  standards at? Why are they only going for the top one percent? Why
• 30:32
  are they shooting on all these other men? Why is there so much missentry
• 30:36
  in like our media, in our education, in our entertainment, it's everywhere.
• 30:41
  No, they don't ask that, they're just like, he's sad.
• 30:44
  We should feel sad too. I am a great person because I pointed out
• 30:48
  how sad this guy is. That's not useful. That's what women do for
• 30:52
  other women. You know. It's like in the movie Midsummer where the main
• 30:57
  character is like, she like, I don't know, she like starts crying
• 31:03
  because she finds out her boyfriend cheated on her when actually her boyfriend was raped
• 31:07
  by another woman and they made her watch or something. But of course she's
• 31:11
  man at hymn for it, and she starts crying in anguish, and all
• 31:15
  these other women run in and they all may go group hug and they all
• 31:18
  cry together, which is like this sick, twisted like empathy that doesn't mean
• 31:25
  anything, And they think that this is somehow it's not don't even think it's
• 31:29
  good for women, but it certainly isn't good for men. Men don't want
• 31:33
  that, do you guys? Remember that video of the trans men that was
• 31:38
  on TikTok and he's crying and he's saying, it's so lonely to be a
• 31:41
  dude. And yet you know also saying well, I get that men,
• 31:45
  like especially white men, have privilege or whatever. It doesn't change that,
• 31:49
  like this is so useless. Number one, you know, biologically female,
• 31:53
  so obviously more likely to cry. Men are not that way in general.
• 31:57
  I mean, some of you guys are all sensitive, and I'm not shitting
• 32:00
  on you. I get it. You know, we all we're not all
• 32:04
  like the same. But the fact is, in general, men don't heal
• 32:08
  the way women heal, which we've talked about. I talked about it with
• 32:14
  you know, guys at work in therapy and psychology, but we've also talked
• 32:19
  about on the show. We've looked at studies. We know that, like
• 32:22
  there's a reason why there are men's shelters and not like men's you know,
• 32:27
  cry rooms or whatever. And so then like when someone says, look at
• 32:32
  how sad this guy is, I just don't think it's useful. But I
• 32:36
  will ask you. So, I have a poll here ready to go.
• 32:38
  I'm going to send it through and you guys, let me know what you
• 32:43
  think. How useful is it to empathize with men's struggles? Do you think
• 32:50
  it's good because maybe it's a starting point to solving these problems, because I
• 32:53
  could see that it sort of begins with an acknowledgement or recognition that there is
• 32:59
  a problem them. So one of the things that Lindsay, my wife Lindsay
• 33:04
  said was that we shouldn't necessarily be coddling men. We can't change the fact
• 33:10
  that society's society values men's like health and life less than women. And I
• 33:17
  think she's right. I think that's just a reality. But that doesn't mean
• 33:21
  that we and she's not saying that we shouldn't care about men, but she's
• 33:23
  saying that, like as a group, maybe individual men that you know in
• 33:28
  your life, but I think as a group, the best thing to do
• 33:30
  is to first of all, we have to acknowledge men's contribute to the society.
• 33:35
  We have to acknowledge that men are necessary. We have to acknowledge what
• 33:38
  men's like, what men bring to the table, and we have to give
• 33:42
  men a purpose, like something something that allows them to feel like they have
• 33:51
  a purpose, some fulfillment. Right. So I think I think that I
• 34:00
  think that that is what I think. I mean, again, I'm not
• 34:04
  saying that we should not give a shit about men, not at all.
• 34:07
  I'm saying that simply saying I don't know, like just pouring on empathy.
• 34:14
  It doesn't it's it's not the way men do things right. So, uh,
• 34:21
  anybody want to call in Swash do you have? Do you have anything
• 34:24
  you wanted to anybody? Because I see a couple of people in the screening
• 34:28
  room, so I want to know if anybody's gonna call in here. I'll
• 34:31
  read some comments, send super chats and super chats two guys. I'm I'm
• 34:36
  down with that. I'll read them and I'll add my thoughts. So,
• 34:40
  but I do think and here's another thing too, I'm trying to how do
• 34:45
  I put this. I know that you guys are not you're not religious,
• 34:50
  so but I think that one of the things that is beneficial to having something
• 34:58
  like what Jordan Peterson calls like the finite, it lets men look away from
• 35:01
  women and towards something higher. Because I think that simping comes from like this
• 35:07
  sort of feminized, secularized society where women are the ultimate good and men are
• 35:14
  supposed to serve them. And this is exactly what a lot of women would
• 35:17
  like. But maybe if men were like looking at something beyond themselves, it
• 35:22
  doesn't have to be God, but like something else, something like do you
• 35:25
  want to serve or do something useful to our society or civilization or something,
• 35:31
  or if you have kids, you know, I think your kids should come
• 35:35
  first. Right, Maybe if they were doing that, simping would die.
• 35:39
  I don't know, I could be wrong, but that's just like what I'm
• 35:43
  thinking. So salt Peter Taffy says men need empathy, but they do not
• 35:50
  need demonstrations of empathy. Empathy should inform meaningful action. Yes, yeah,
• 35:54
  I think that's right. Well, no, yeah, for sure. Like
• 35:57
  you know, when the trans man was crying, there was another video that
• 36:04
  another guy made. It was like a I don't know what you call it,
• 36:06
  a stitch or whatever, where you make a TikTok that attaches to the
• 36:08
  end of the other TikTok. I don't use TikTok, but I think that's
• 36:12
  what they call it. But anyway, and basically you have this guy and
• 36:15
  he's like, you know, I didn't know it was so lonely, right,
• 36:19
  and he used to crying and shit. And then this other guy,
• 36:21
  like a real man, like a like a man born male comes on and
• 36:24
  he's holding on a hammer and he's like, take this and go build something.
• 36:30
  Make yourself useful, and you'll feel better. And I think that and
• 36:32
  that was a man saying that, and I think that that's kind of like
• 36:37
  true. Like I think that's how men sort of like you know, they
• 36:40
  heal. Like like it could be you create some art, you write a
• 36:45
  song, you build something, you fix something, you work on your car,
• 36:50
  whatever it is, right, you do some drywall, I don't know,
• 36:52
  like whatever, you cook something, you bake something. You basically use
• 36:57
  your hands to do something that you think is he was full, either to
• 37:00
  yourself or to someone else. And I think that that is, like it's
• 37:04
  better than just crying into a hanky for like however long. I don't think
• 37:08
  that's how men work like cry. I mean I talked to my father.
• 37:13
  It was Father's Day weekend, so I don't know, like a couple of
• 37:16
  months ago, and my father, I you know, he's been in a
• 37:21
  nursing home for a while. And when I remember him from my childhood,
• 37:29
  my father was very athletic. He played basketball like all the time. He
• 37:34
  was tall, he was like he was muscular, nothing like me, and
• 37:40
  you know, and he watched the game. He was just like a big
• 37:44
  into sports kind of guy. My my brother, my middle my younger brother,
• 37:49
  who was the middle brother, he was more like he took more after
• 37:51
  my father. I was more like my mom. But he ended up in
• 37:55
  the hospital because he had a lot of problems. Things he didn't attend to.
• 38:00
  He had a number of strokes, and so I didn't really see him
• 38:06
  very much because and then when COVID happened, I used to see him like
• 38:08
  once in a while, but then COVID happened and they locked down the nursing
• 38:15
  home, so I couldn't see him at all. And like in that time,
• 38:19
  I think, like my brother, my baby brother, he got married
• 38:23
  and there was a wedding and my father wasn't able to come, and like
• 38:28
  there were you know, there were weddings and funerals, and my father wasn't
• 38:31
  like basically nobody could go to anything. So we kind of missed out on
• 38:36
  a lot of that. And then I got to talk to him around Father's
• 38:39
  Day and he just wanted to talk about what he remembered about me from when
• 38:45
  I was a child, and it was stuff that like I couldn't remember any
• 38:49
  of this, he remembered it, like every memory. It was clear as
• 38:52
  day in his mind, and I broke down. I cried because but like
• 38:58
  I cried while I was on the phone with him. They were manly tears.
• 39:00
  Though they were manly tears. But still point is, though I'm not
• 39:04
  against that because but that was like a meaningful thing, right, like talking
• 39:08
  to my dad, who I think isn't gonna be with us for much longer.
• 39:14
  That was like really important. I had to thank my mother afterwards because
• 39:17
  she was the one who put me in touch with them. Even though my
• 39:20
  mother and father are like, you know, they're not really together anymore,
• 39:22
  but they're still like really good friends. Like my mom visits him all the
• 39:27
  time, so and they kind of, you know, fix their problems.
• 39:30
  But they're so old now, it's it's not necessarily romantic. So like it's
• 39:36
  not I'm not against any of that. I'm just I'm just like there's just
• 39:39
  a difference between like when it's appropriate and when it's sort of like I don't
• 39:45
  know, extra so all right, high inquisitive Swashberry says Totem see's a strong
• 39:52
  connection between passport pros and in cells, and it's interested in talking about how
• 39:55
  difficult it is for a lot of these men to find a woman. All
• 39:59
  right, So I'm gonna bring totem in here. Who's t use that?
• 40:04
  I don't know who that is? But then they okay, I'm gonna bring
• 40:06
  totem in here, So get ready and here we go, bring them in.
• 40:12
  So hello totem, Hello sir, how are you doing? I'm good?
• 40:15
  How are you? Yeah? I'm fine? All good? All right?
• 40:20
  So what are your thoughts? What are you going to say about the
• 40:22
  in cells the passport bros. Yeah, I think I think this passport bros.
• 40:27
  Thing, as you alert to a bit previously, it's really nothing new,
• 40:31
  and I think it's related to insult them. I think many of these
• 40:37
  guys are actually just in cells and they need to find any woman. And
• 40:45
  yeah, so they go to Southeast Asia. They even call this sea maxing
• 40:51
  in the in cell community. Oh really, sea maxing. That's pretty dope.
• 40:55
  Yeah, Southeast Asia maxing because they, yeah, they have these I
• 41:00
  don't know how much you know about insults, but they have these terms of
• 41:04
  maxing, which means, like you, I do. I know about some
• 41:07
  of it. I know about some of it because I know about trans maxing,
• 41:12
  looks maxing, things like that, but I never heard Sea Maxing,
• 41:16
  That's that's funny. Yeah, it's it's actually one of the like aside from
• 41:22
  looks Maxing, I would say it's like the second most suggested solution for installt
• 41:29
  on is to just go to Southeast Asia and find a woman there. Yeah,
• 41:36
  I mean, and again the fact that it upsets American women so much
• 41:39
  is hilarious. It's like it's like, you know, it's funny because they
• 41:44
  don't want these men, but they don't want these men to go find someone
• 41:47
  else either, you know, like you know, like I didn't have the
• 41:51
  clip here, but I showed like these like Normi women that are mad at
• 41:58
  at these like you know, Passport Bros. But then there's also feminist women
• 42:02
  like Laura Bates, Like I don't know so many others that that are also
• 42:07
  mad at Passport bros. Even though they think that those guys are dangerous,
• 42:14
  you know. I even I even ask like one I was like, because
• 42:16
  they were they would say the same thing about They basically say passport ros and
• 42:20
  Miktao interchangeably, like they're the same thing. And and I think it's I
• 42:24
  think it's probably more true what you're saying because an in cell is basically a
• 42:31
  guy who you know, really wants to be in a relationship with a woman,
• 42:36
  and miktoo, at least on paper, they don't. Although I say
• 42:39
  on paper because some of them probably really do and they're just struggling. But
• 42:45
  but yeah, you know, the feminists don't want Migtao. They think they're
• 42:50
  dangerous and misogynistic, et cetera. But they also don't want migtow to like
• 42:52
  go away. It's for some reason. They also really dislike insults, even
• 43:00
  though they don't mean they are not really attracted to insults, but they still
• 43:07
  hate them. And the way I don't know. Yeah, it's yeah,
• 43:12
  it's hard to wrap rap your head around logically. Yeah, I think you're
• 43:15
  right. There's a tweet I have here. Let me see if I can
• 43:19
  put it on the screen. It might not show up very well from William
• 43:23
  Costello, and he says a study of self identified in cells has revealed,
• 43:29
  because maybe you know what this is three distinct clusters based on their beliefs,
• 43:34
  externalizers who blame society, hopers seeking improvement, and internalizers who blame themselves and
• 43:42
  experienced intense emotional distress. What do you think about that? Are you are
• 43:52
  you a member of the in Cell forums by any chance, I mean kind
• 43:58
  of yeah, I'm I wouldn't say I'm an insult myself, but I find
• 44:02
  it especially this idea of the black pill and how looks relates to how you
• 44:08
  get treated in society and all of this, because that's that's a big part
• 44:15
  of the in cell ideology or whatever you want to call it, even though
• 44:22
  it's not really an ideology, it's like this, they call it a black
• 44:24
  pill, which is about yeah, like looks and status and all of these
• 44:30
  things that it will really determine how people treat you. So if you're a
• 44:36
  bad looking guy, you kind of have this effect that anything you do will
• 44:39
  be seen as kind of creepy. Or if you're short, for instance,
• 44:44
  it will be like a Napoleon complex if you show up in like a nice
• 44:49
  care or something. But if you're like a good looking tall guy and you
• 44:52
  show up show up in a nice care, it's like, yeah, cool
• 44:54
  guy in nice care. You know. So, And I'm not sure exactly
• 45:00
  what William I mean he's citing something and unfamiliar with him as well, because
• 45:05
  he's done studies on insulls and oh really from yeah, yeah, he's he's
• 45:10
  a good, good source if you need some information on the topic. Yeah,
• 45:15
  I just I just found him, so I will definitely look into it
• 45:19
  more. Go ahead, Yeah, I have a I'm reading the text again.
• 45:27
  And externalizers who blame society hopers seeking improvement and internalizers who blame themselves and
• 45:34
  experience intense emotional distress. I don't I don't think that it's internalizers alone that
• 45:40
  experience. And I mean it might be poorly worded, but I don't think
• 45:44
  it's correct. I think that if you, well, if I look at
• 45:49
  this, I think the Hoper path is probably the best path, but it
• 45:52
  shouldn't be with the goal of like finding a woman. I think that the
• 45:58
  hopers should work on enough and then go you know, s Oe Maxing,
• 46:06
  it was se O or s o E. I don't know se A Sea,
• 46:09
  So yeah right right Sea? Yeah, because like I mean, yeah,
• 46:15
  yeah, go ahead, we're gonna say yeah. I mean, I
• 46:17
  agree there. You should always be the best version of yourself, as JBP
• 46:22
  would say, I guess, and yeah, if not for getting a woman,
• 46:27
  at least for yourself like Steah fit and having a decent career and friends
• 46:32
  and family and stuff like this. So, but I mean the problem is
• 46:36
  it can it can be hard if if women are not interested in you,
• 46:40
  because it's a big, big part of life. I would say to to
• 46:45
  have relationships and absolutely that you're attractive to the other sex. Yes, I
• 46:52
  mean obviously it's good for your ego. But I think that well, I've
• 46:57
  I've said this many times. I think that the first step if you're a
• 47:00
  man is improve your relationship with yourself. So like, don't get into like
• 47:05
  nihilism and self hatred and stuff like that. Just like work on whatever you
• 47:09
  can. Don't be in a rush, don't expect like results overnight. Just
• 47:15
  do just do that. Learn something, take it interest in something that that
• 47:19
  has like some value. Don't like master a video game or something, because
• 47:22
  I mean, I video games are fun. I love them, but like
• 47:24
  they're not a measure of like your ability to contribute to society. But maybe
• 47:30
  maybe you want to design one. Maybe whatever, right, I would do
• 47:35
  that, work on the self, and then while you're at it, if
• 47:37
  you don't already have some friends, build like some friends, build some community
• 47:43
  and not like online friends. I mean you can have those, but like
• 47:46
  in real life if you can, like you know, I am not that
• 47:50
  I'm in the situation, but I moved here to Rowan up Southwest Virginia,
• 47:55
  ron Ke, Virginia. I didn't know anybody, right, I mean,
• 48:00
  the only person I knew was Paul Elam and he's kind of on the other
• 48:02
  side of town, and we're both pretty busy, so we don't really see
• 48:06
  each other very much, although I am hoping to see him this weekend.
• 48:08
  I don't get to see Paul very much. But he's the only person I
• 48:10
  know around here, and I don't even really know him, know him,
• 48:13
  like we've never you know, we've only done this, like talk to each
• 48:15
  other in the context of this kind of content, but over time. Because
• 48:21
  my wife was the same way. She was like, you know, oh,
• 48:23
  well you don't know anybody around here. And I say, well,
• 48:25
  that's okay, We'll give a time. Because what happens is you get out
• 48:29
  of the house, you go touch grass, you you go, you know,
• 48:31
  to just going about your business. And especially if it's in a smaller
• 48:36
  city like this one three hundred thousand people, you will come across the same
• 48:40
  faces and you know, and I did so like there's a couple of people
• 48:44
  who live in the neighborhood that i've I've met. There was a maintenance guy
• 48:47
  that came in here because there was a leak downstairs from my apartment and he
• 48:52
  was checking to see what the problem was. And I've never seen him before,
• 48:55
  but he looks just like Oliver Anthony, like red, like a ginger
• 48:59
  guy without a big old beard. I thought it was him. I was
• 49:00
  like, oh, what is he doing here? But because you know that
• 49:05
  guy's in Virginia too, But anyway, he came in here and he fixed
• 49:09
  the like there was a leak or something in the air conditioning unit in my
• 49:15
  apartment. And the air conditioning unit is in here. It's like right the
• 49:17
  doors, like right behind me. And when he was in here, he
• 49:22
  had to mention as a like later I saw him later on cleaning up around
• 49:27
  here and he said, oh, you know, I noticed because he approached
• 49:30
  me. I was walking Jojo. He said, I noticed that you have
• 49:32
  a bunch of Dungeons and Dragons books on your shelf, because I do there
• 49:37
  you can't see them. They're over there, and oh yeah they are.
• 49:38
  They were like, yeah, you can see the shelf behind me. And
• 49:40
  I was like, yeah, you know, because like when I was younger.
• 49:44
  I used to play a lot of D and D with my friends.
• 49:45
  I kept the books because you know, you never know, but I'm not
• 49:50
  doing any of that at the moment. And he we he and I struck
• 49:52
  up a big conversation. It turned into it was it started off about that,
• 49:57
  but then we were talking about like that I was a rance planned from
• 50:00
  like I moved here from Chicago and he had moved here from Texas, and
• 50:04
  like why we came here, and like all the stuff that was going on,
• 50:07
  and he clearly had stuff on his mind, like stuff that he had
• 50:08
  been wrestling with it he didn't want to bring up, like you know,
• 50:12
  that he didn't like what happened in twenty twenty, That he didn't like the
• 50:15
  COVID lockdowns, that he didn't like the George Floyd riots. He did that
• 50:17
  all these things that he took issue with, And I was more than happy
• 50:21
  to hear him out and listen to him. And I mean, you know,
• 50:23
  his name is Richard. He's a cool dude. I'm probably gonna see
• 50:28
  him again. And that's just one example. I've met a number of people
• 50:30
  of different walks of life, of different ages, and I think that this
• 50:36
  is what like when men flourish is when they're doing stuff like this. I'm
• 50:38
  talking to a dude about like dude shit, and it's just really cool.
• 50:43
  And I think that when a man can when a man is doing that and
• 50:46
  he's sort of comfortable, you know, with like minded friends, you don't
• 50:51
  feel like you have to like hide a part of your cell or whatever you
• 50:54
  will. I think you develop social skills really well because you know, you
• 51:00
  might not believe this, but I used to be crazy introverted, like it
• 51:02
  would give me panic attacks. And then and then like you know, you
• 51:07
  you don't even think about women anymore, because I think one of the things
• 51:10
  that really haunts men that are alone is that they're always thinking about how they're
• 51:15
  alone and that and that makes it worse and you know, and it kind
• 51:20
  of like puts them in a worse situation. So if you're not thinking about
• 51:23
  women all the time, if you're not thinking about whether or not you know
• 51:27
  what she's gonna think of you, if she's gonna find you creepy, you
• 51:30
  just to stop worrying about that. I mean, yeah, women, they
• 51:31
  have a problem with that. They're you know, they've been wired to say
• 51:38
  they're they've been wired to fear men, but you don't have to like let
• 51:43
  their paranoia affect you. You just be you, right, and I think
• 51:46
  it will work out. So anyway, long story short, sorry this went
• 51:51
  along. But build a good relationship with your cea. I build a good
• 51:53
  relationship with yourself. Then build a good relationship with other men as friends,
• 51:58
  platonic whatever, and then just don't worry about the rest. I mean,
• 52:01
  you know you will. You will be able to let's say, you'll be
• 52:07
  better at discerning you know, the virtuous women from the rest of them.
• 52:13
  I guess so yeah. And also I mean I agree one percent. And
• 52:17
  I would also say that like when you meet especially women also in real life,
• 52:22
  they are much I don't know. It seems like they are more saying
• 52:25
  when you talk to them, like when you meet them in real life than
• 52:30
  like when you see a tweet or you match with someone on Twitter sorry Tinder,
• 52:35
  and like this online anything online becomes a bit I don't know, brings
• 52:43
  up that well. Yeah, I mean, like people are putting on their
• 52:46
  online like identity, I guess, or or we tend to interpret what they're
• 52:52
  saying is different from how they actually are. Always people are different in person,
• 52:55
  like always, you know. So anyway, what am I gonna go?
• 53:00
  I see some more people in the chat, hopefully they'll call in.
• 53:04
  So I don't know if you have any final thoughts you wanted to say.
• 53:07
  I nothing, really, I mean, thanks for thankful just having me on
• 53:10
  the stream, and yeah, all right, thank you. All right,
• 53:15
  I'm gonna move you back into the screaming room. H and thank you so
• 53:17
  much. So I'm waiting to see I see like a like at least three
• 53:22
  other people waiting to come in here. So I might go till six twenty.
• 53:30
  If if somebody comes on, I'll probably go for a little while longer.
• 53:34
  If nobody does, then I'm not I'm not gonna sweat it. So
• 53:39
  anyway, Uh so let's see, Uh, George Floyd was murdered. I'm
• 53:46
  not gonna believe the forensics pathologists of the police hired. I believe the other
• 53:50
  forensic pathologists. I mean, you can believe whatever you want. It doesn't
• 53:52
  justify burning down cities though. So I don't know what it is you're saying,
• 53:57
  to be honest, I I don't get what that means. I mean,
• 54:00
  does that mean that the guy you know, the people the twenty four
• 54:01
  people who were murdered, the thousands of injuries that that people suffered, and
• 54:07
  the cops suffered, the billions of dollars in damages to people's property and businesses.
• 54:13
  Is that is that acceptable? Even if Chauvin did murder him on purpose
• 54:16
  because he felt, like, you know, after ten years working in that
• 54:20
  community, he wanted to kill a black guy, does that really justify all
• 54:22
  the damage? Because that's really the question. So anyway, does anyone have
• 54:30
  any other thoughts? Does anybody want to call in? I see a swash?
• 54:37
  Is there anyone gonna come in? Or what what's going on? If
• 54:40
  not, then I might have to wrap up the show in like five minutes
• 54:44
  because I don't want to be lingering. But what thoughts? I guess So
• 54:52
  I'll look at the I'm gonna close this pole so it looks like you guys
• 54:53
  are saying it's somewhat useful. I think I think that's right. I mean,
• 54:58
  I do think that, like obviously, some empathy is necessary to start
• 55:01
  change. I just think that if you're only doing that, then to me,
• 55:05
  that's his virtuas signaling. This is something that Nick said that I agree
• 55:08
  with. You know, I know that Nick doesn't like me very much right
• 55:13
  now. But I think that he's right on a lot of stuff. So
• 55:17
  yeah, that's just uh what I think. I think that you know,
• 55:22
  it starts with empathy, that's like a first step, but after that it's
• 55:29
  it comes down to, uh, you know, like what what are you
• 55:31
  going to do to help him? And what are those men gonna do to
• 55:34
  help themselves? Because I think on some level, you know, Paul Elam
• 55:37
  always says there there are no victims, only volunteers, and I think that
• 55:42
  that's right as well. And I think that we have to kind of understand
• 55:46
  that right because we you know, the feminists are the ones that use victimhood
• 55:51
  for everything, and I don't think we should be doing that because I don't
• 55:52
  think it's useful. So uh, okay, I don't think anyone else is
• 56:00
  gonna call in. I don't know. I'm gonna let me ask Swash if
• 56:06
  anyone else is coming on, so I could anyone else coming? Otherwise I'm
• 56:17
  gonna wrap it up if anybody If no one else is coming, So okay,
• 56:27
  he's typing something. Let's see what he says. Anybody sent a super
• 56:30
  chow. I'm in a check real quick to see like sometimes I don't get
• 56:35
  them and I don't see them. So no super chows cool. Albert Data
• 56:47
  retro gives his two dollars. Canadian says Paul is wrong. Okay, well,
• 56:52
  feel free to make the case. I mean, I think that like
• 56:57
  wanting to help someone is fine, but I wouldn't use victimhood tactics. And
• 57:05
  plus, I don't know if you guys know this, but victimhood tactics don't
• 57:08
  work well with men. I mean, it's just the fact I think that
• 57:13
  we've evolved to be less sympathetic to men, and I'd like that to be
• 57:17
  different, but I don't see that changing personally. So Ta wanted to talk
• 57:23
  about how it's not just in cells become passport bros. And it's become increasingly
• 57:28
  difficult to find women in the West. Yes, okay, I'm gonna bring
• 57:30
  Tea in and get his take. Tea's take, I'm gonna move him in
• 57:37
  there and here we go. I'm gonna bring Tea. I just talked long
• 57:42
  enough to create lags so that he'd be ready, because there's all there's like
• 57:45
  a five second delay. So all right, Tea, welcome to the show.
• 57:49
  What's your take? My take is that the pass poort bros. Not
• 57:57
  just for insells. Yeah, a lot of people are just looking to have
• 58:01
  like a real connection with someone that's not shallow like thing that's backed up with
• 58:07
  a big state mechanism behind it. Imple that a lot of it. Yeah,
• 58:13
  I think that's right. I mean, I think that's a lot of
• 58:15
  guys making a logical choice, right, I mean that's what it seems to
• 58:22
  me. U are you Are you a passport bro or no any or are
• 58:27
  you coming one? You are? I'm gonna be heading the East, my
• 58:32
  bros. And uh yeah, all rights? Are you at where you go?
• 58:40
  You? I mean, if you don't mind sharing? Where are you
• 58:43
  going? Philippines? Playing on the Oh? Yeah, here the Philippines.
• 58:46
  The women are beautiful there. I don't know if you guys like Filipino women,
• 58:52
  but and there, and there are a lot there are a lot easier
• 58:54
  to deal with in like South Korean chicks and Japanese chicks are super materialistic,
• 59:00
  so right, and you know they also have strong belief in God in the
• 59:07
  Philippines as well, Yeah, which helps. I think, are you God
• 59:12
  pilled as well? Yes? I'm followed of Jesus, so I encourage everybody
• 59:16
  learns much as Cain about Jesus. Yeah, all right, all right,
• 59:22
  and okay, so let me ask you this. How does it work?
• 59:24
  Like? Are you talking to someone and you're gonna go see her? Or
• 59:28
  are you just going down there and you're just gonna walk around go like I
• 59:31
  don't know, go where the girls are at, go to church, trying
• 59:36
  to pick somebody up? Like what's the plow? Does this work? In
• 59:38
  case anybody is wondering, well, I'm planning to be a preacher, so
• 59:44
  really or women I'm going to you know, I'm open to it. Should
• 59:49
  I find like you know, the unicorn, which may or may not exist,
• 59:55
  We'll see how it goes. Okay, so you're you're you are?
• 59:59
  Are you how for many years? So? Mm? So you're you're training?
• 1:00:05
  Is that how it works? Training to be a teacher, a preacher?
• 1:00:07
  Preacher? Oh I want to be, but you know, I'm just
• 1:00:12
  kind of starting now. So I see. But that is this is something
• 1:00:15
  that you're looking in at getting into and what denomination? Because I know that
• 1:00:21
  not all denominations allow priests to get married, although some do. Right,
• 1:00:28
  No, the Bible I think it says that, you know, get married.
• 1:00:31
  I like Catholics, Catholic believing independent. Yeah, Catholic priests can't can't
• 1:00:38
  get married. I know. Oh yeah, that's that's how I was raised.
• 1:00:43
  But I've left that faith. So yeah, okay, but yeah it's
• 1:00:47
  uh, you know, worked in the corporate world for a while and then
• 1:00:53
  come to Jesus moments like Okay, well, I guess I'll just go to
• 1:00:57
  the Philippines and you know, good fishing. When every day I can just
• 1:01:00
  chill read a Bible, it's a little all right, man, sounds good.
• 1:01:07
  I'm I'm, i I'll you know, I'm I'm. I'm hopeful that
• 1:01:12
  things will that that's gonna work out for you. I hope that you you
• 1:01:15
  know, my brother, I have a baby brother. He was he is
• 1:01:19
  with a Filipino girl he met in high school and he's like, you know,
• 1:01:25
  he's like forty now. So I mean that's that's been good for him.
• 1:01:30
  And yeah, it's definitely not an insult thing though, because no,
• 1:01:34
  I don't think it is. No, No, I don't think he's moving.
• 1:01:36
  Soldiers have married the locals everywhere they go, you know. Yeah,
• 1:01:39
  that's right. Movement. Yeah, you could say that the military bros are
• 1:01:45
  passport bros. Right in a way. Yeah, it's you know, it's
• 1:01:49
  not wait, the same situation, but I would you know, it's comparable.
• 1:01:52
  I would say, yeah, yeah, dope. All right, man,
• 1:01:57
  Well that sounds good. Do you have any final thoughts or anything else
• 1:01:59
  you wanted to say before I send you back. I'm gonna get the next
• 1:02:01
  caller, not really just keep it up bad just you know that was that
• 1:02:07
  story yesterday? Really, I mean that was pretty that hit me pretty good
• 1:02:13
  yesterday. Man. So which one the murderer? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:02:17
  yeah, the baby murderer? Yeah, yeah, it's what happens when
• 1:02:21
  you you know, that story is still going, like there's people like trying
• 1:02:23
  to defend her. It's fucking crazy, man. It's just it's just there,
• 1:02:29
  like it's like female evil. Nobody wants to look at it. It's
• 1:02:32
  just it just scares them too much. Maybe maybe they're like thinking about their
• 1:02:37
  mother. I don't even know. But yeah, it's tough, man.
• 1:02:39
  I've I've had to I've had to go through some dark stories doing this job,
• 1:02:45
  you know, and somehow I stay like saying, so I don't know,
• 1:02:50
  all right, t Well, I'll I'm gonna send you back. Thanks
• 1:02:53
  so much. Tell me fish. Oh Fish. Oh hey, man,
• 1:02:58
  you're you're in the you're in the chat. Okay, Fish, Well thanks,
• 1:03:00
  and I'm good luck to you. And you know, stay, I
• 1:03:05
  don't know, stay awesome, bro, two guys, all right, get
• 1:03:08
  easy later. Okay, that was that was kind of wholesome. U Zarians
• 1:03:15
  gives us, well, he didn't give us anything. Zarynx wants to come
• 1:03:19
  in. Yeah, I'm so used to reading his super childs Zarns says.
• 1:03:23
  According to Swash, Zarenx thinks the issue with simping is that we put love
• 1:03:28
  first, and that's not necessarily the first thing you should be looking for in
• 1:03:30
  a relationship. Okay, I'm gonna bring Zaranks in here. He's he's an
• 1:03:36
  old old head, you know, of the friend of the channel. Been
• 1:03:39
  here for a while. I'm gonna move him in here. All right.
• 1:03:44
  Hey, Zaryanx, what's up? How are you doing? Oh? Hey,
• 1:03:47
  Brian, how you doing? I'm good? How are you? I
• 1:03:50
  already asked you that. What are your thoughts on what you're gonna say about
• 1:03:54
  love and simping? Oh? First, I want to say a long time
• 1:03:59
  listener, first time caller. Yeah, I know I've seen you in the
• 1:04:02
  chap for a long time. It's about time, he called in. No,
• 1:04:09
  I've been thinking about this idea, right, and I think it might
• 1:04:14
  address the issue with simping, the issue with with relationships and all that.
• 1:04:21
  I've been told that I maybe made it complicated. And I address this to
• 1:04:27
  coach Greg Adams before and he thought that I maybe wanted people to look at
• 1:04:32
  things like like an arranged marriage. But I don't want people to I'm not.
• 1:04:41
  I don't want people to think of it as an arranged marriage. I
• 1:04:44
  want people to approach it that way. So my thing was what do you
• 1:04:50
  need in in terms of a romantic relationship? And I and I thought,
• 1:04:57
  okay, you need what you need in every relationship, So you need trust,
• 1:05:02
  accountability, responsibility, respect. And I think I've presented this before to
• 1:05:08
  HBr in a super chat and I've added, you know, resilience as as
• 1:05:15
  a through line. And it's noticed that I've mentioned all those five things,
• 1:05:20
  but I haven't mentioned love yet. Yeah, so I think love should be
• 1:05:25
  the last thing. I think. I don't think you could love someone if
• 1:05:29
  you don't have the other things first anyway, like you would need them as
• 1:05:31
  prerequisites. Right, you can't love someone you don't respect or get respect from
• 1:05:38
  exactly. But I think a lot of people put love first before everything else,
• 1:05:43
  and it's like, well, you you have to give some you know,
• 1:05:46
  you have to trust someone first. And I think I got this from
• 1:05:51
  Jordan Peterson's like, you trust someone and then you see how they respond with
• 1:05:57
  that trust, you see how they handle it, and then you give him
• 1:06:00
  a bit more each you know, each time, and yeah, that walls.
• 1:06:04
  So then you have the accountability that that comes with that, and then
• 1:06:08
  the responsibility, you know, the the showing of how you can handle it.
• 1:06:14
  Yeah, and and then that would build respect, and it would build.
• 1:06:19
  It will it will, it will build and bring respect not just from
• 1:06:24
  outside but from from within as well, and then from you get the love.
• 1:06:30
  Yeah. Yeah, man, it makes perfect sense. That's I think
• 1:06:33
  that's a great model as a great model. You know, I didn't know
• 1:06:38
  now that you're saying that, I didn't know that I kind of was doing
• 1:06:42
  that, but it was like sort of unconsciously when I uh started dating Lindsay,
• 1:06:47
  I was I wasn't like I I you know, I was flirtations and
• 1:06:51
  ship, but I was like very like trying to be really observant because you
• 1:06:57
  know, even I don't know if you guys know, but even when in
• 1:07:00
  that claim to be like, you know, on the side of men's issues,
• 1:07:03
  which is how Lindsay got involved in this, that doesn't like they're they're
• 1:07:08
  there yet to be tested. You know. This is why there's a lot
• 1:07:11
  of women in this space that have kind of moved away from us because they
• 1:07:16
  couldn't take the you know, the the amount of pain and by extension anger
• 1:07:23
  that comes out of these like sort of men's rights or red Pills spaces,
• 1:07:28
  and it gets under women's skin after a while because they can't. They're you
• 1:07:30
  know, they just want us to be more agreeable or submissive or whatever,
• 1:07:35
  and a lot of these men are just not like that, and so you
• 1:07:39
  get like, you know, Sidney Watson moved away from this, Natty moved
• 1:07:43
  away from this, and there's others too. I'm sure you guys can think
• 1:07:47
  of some other examples. So, but like once, like they you know,
• 1:07:53
  the women who were willing to stick it out and and reciprocate these things
• 1:07:57
  that you're talking about, zair aans I think that's how you know, you
• 1:08:00
  got, like, you know, a person worthy of your love and hopefully
• 1:08:05
  you know you're worthy of theirs because you're giving them the same thing. Well,
• 1:08:09
  that's where the resilience comes in. It's like, yeah, you know,
• 1:08:13
  it's like you're testing them, they're testing you as well, and it's
• 1:08:16
  like what George says, like you like, no one really should want to
• 1:08:20
  like stick with you if, like, you know, with all your problems
• 1:08:25
  and everything. But if they do, it's like, Okay, maybe check
• 1:08:29
  that out. And I think that's where that whole that you know, trust
• 1:08:34
  what you like, look at what they do, not what not, listen
• 1:08:38
  to what they say. I think that's where I think that's where that makes
• 1:08:43
  sense. So you're not you're not just you know, projecting your own ideas
• 1:08:47
  and then building on what is essentially a facade that's just you know, waiting
• 1:08:53
  for that last feather to knock it down. Yeah truth. Yeah, man,
• 1:09:01
  thanks for calling. Do you have any other thoughts that you wanted to
• 1:09:05
  share someone else? If I have anymore, I probably just blanked on them,
• 1:09:11
  so well, be sure to call us back next time I do this.
• 1:09:15
  I'll do one in September and hopefully you'll call in again. I don't
• 1:09:18
  know what we'll be talking about by this time, but you know, because
• 1:09:25
  I'm always trying to find new things. But I think this Passport Bros.
• 1:09:28
  Thing was super interesting because it's like, basically, I'm looking at what what
• 1:09:32
  is on the lips of people in the social media space, what happens to
• 1:09:38
  be trending that has to do with men or could like, for example,
• 1:09:42
  let me let me put something else out there. And I didn't want to
• 1:09:45
  make this a topic because I'm still mulling it over a little bit. But
• 1:09:49
  you have this, uh, what's the name of the guy, the country
• 1:09:54
  singer that like has the really hit the big hit song patrick a Thing Albert
• 1:10:00
  What? Oliver Anthony? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oliver Anthony. Right,
• 1:10:03
  So Oliver Anthony got this big hit song. And I saw this video
• 1:10:09
  that this other guy made where he took a bunch of clips of people reacting
• 1:10:15
  to the song and compiled it all together so that it plays the entire song.
• 1:10:19
  But you see it, you know, like with all these other like
• 1:10:23
  sort of YouTube reaction video people that are reacting to it, and they're all
• 1:10:28
  and they're all, you know, like getting into it and everything. And
• 1:10:30
  of course what the YouTuber was trying to do was show that this wasn't a
• 1:10:35
  song for white men, because that's what the media is saying, right,
• 1:10:40
  So he's got like there's like black guys and they're and you know, and
• 1:10:43
  they're like getting into it, and they're some of them are like wiping tears
• 1:10:45
  from their eyes. And there's like Asian guys, and there's Latinos and Indians.
• 1:10:50
  But but the one thing that and that was kind of the point,
• 1:10:54
  and that's what a lot of people saw. But what they didn't see that
• 1:10:58
  I saw was how many of them were men, which was like the overwhelming
• 1:11:02
  majority. I think when there was a woman reacting, there was only one
• 1:11:05
  video of a woman reacting alone, and it looks like she was doing it
• 1:11:09
  for her audience because she looked kind of like an ethought. And then there
• 1:11:13
  was like one or two videos where there was a woman with a man,
• 1:11:15
  or with a couple of men, or with her father, and but it
• 1:11:19
  was the men that were mostly resonating with this music, and I thought that
• 1:11:24
  was I think that's the more interesting takeaway because when you look at what the
• 1:11:29
  the sort of sentiment that's being expressed, especially because there's literally a lyric in
• 1:11:33
  there about men that I can't remember, but I remember hearing it and saying,
• 1:11:38
  oh, it tells you that, like, you know, despite all
• 1:11:42
  of the other differences, like the unifying sort of you know thing is that
• 1:11:46
  there are men that are dealing with these problems. And I think that part
• 1:11:50
  of that it's it's all connected, right, the loneliness thing and the passport
• 1:11:56
  bros Thing and and all of the other stuff. It's I think it's all
• 1:12:00
  like connected. There's like a there's like a ah, there's like a song.
• 1:12:05
  No pun intended that that all men are singing together about their struggles and
• 1:12:12
  about how much you know, the abuse that they're dealing with on in every
• 1:12:16
  corner of their lives from the moment they're born till you know, they go
• 1:12:19
  in the grave. So I that's my takeaway from that song. And I
• 1:12:26
  don't know what you think about that, but well that brings up the what
• 1:12:31
  you said, uh, that you're that Lindsay that Lindsay mentioned that she doesn't
• 1:12:36
  think men should be coddled. Yeah, And I think number one, that's
• 1:12:44
  that speaks, you know, that speaks to how we we address women a
• 1:12:49
  lot of the time we talk. Yeah, Lindsay doesn't like that either.
• 1:12:55
  She doesn't like women getting coddled either just to be fair, So I'm not
• 1:12:59
  saying that she does no, I mean, I just want to make it
• 1:13:00
  clear for the audience they know that Lindsay's not like necessarily saying that women should
• 1:13:04
  be She doesn't like when women are. She hates it when she gets coddled
• 1:13:08
  at work because she's the only woman that works in her job and the men
• 1:13:12
  are like, you know, they're trying to do stuff for her, and
• 1:13:15
  she's like, just you know, I can do this, right, But
• 1:13:17
  Lauren Brooks is like that too, but go ahead. Yeah. So I
• 1:13:23
  think I've mentioned this, I don't know how many times on Twitter, you
• 1:13:27
  know, that there's not enough compassion for men. And I've even refer you
• 1:13:30
  know, it's like it's not toddling, right. I think I said a
• 1:13:34
  super chat how and Alison responded to that, and it's like it's like men
• 1:13:44
  want compassion. That's pretty much it. Yeah, that's the one thing that
• 1:13:48
  we don't have that that would be great if we did him, yes,
• 1:13:54
  And it's like if we had that, it would it would it would it
• 1:13:59
  would mean the war, it would mean we would like whatever superpower we like
• 1:14:05
  we we have that we haven't unearthed yet that yeah, and we've just like
• 1:14:15
  we we probably you know, be in the star, you know, be
• 1:14:18
  sailing the stars and all that. I think if we were to stop,
• 1:14:27
  I don't know if we can come up with another word, because I think
• 1:14:30
  compassion than coddling. I think I think it's different though, no, compassion
• 1:14:39
  is different, but I think we'll here compassion. They think, well,
• 1:14:44
  if you you know, if you say, well, this woman needs compassion,
• 1:14:48
  they you know, people are like, oh yeah, absolutely, But
• 1:14:51
  if you say this man needs compassion, they start thinking I'm not going to
• 1:14:55
  treat this guy like a woman. M hm. That makes sense, Yeah
• 1:15:00
  for sure. Yeah, so I think maybe we need another another term for
• 1:15:06
  compassion, so you can you know, get it across that. You know.
• 1:15:12
  It also certain it also helps men because as it is right now,
• 1:15:16
  the whole you know what shoe on head and you know what the video she
• 1:15:23
  puts out and everything, it's like it's all it's all virtual seekingly Yeah,
• 1:15:29
  it is, You're right, it is that's true because she she she this
• 1:15:34
  is how I know because that what she basically says. I made a video
• 1:15:39
  about this, I think on on Honey Badger Arcade. But you guys should
• 1:15:42
  totally subscribe to because we're gonna be doing a lot of fun stuff on there.
• 1:15:45
  Sometimes you just want to, like unwine to have some fun. Honey
• 1:15:48
  Badger Arcade is where the fun is. But anyway, I pointed out that
• 1:15:54
  she contradicts her her message because she says, oh, the left, you
• 1:15:59
  know, because she's on the left, and she looks at lefty Twitter because
• 1:16:00
  that's where she spends her time. She's like, the left is you know,
• 1:16:04
  they're they're not helping men, but when they are helping men, they're
• 1:16:09
  just trying to recruit them, like how do we get them? But then
• 1:16:13
  at the end she basically says, I know a bunch of lefty guys that
• 1:16:16
  want to care, that care about men, And then when you click on
• 1:16:19
  the videos, they're trying to recruit them. So and they're using they're basically
• 1:16:24
  just feminists, like they're just using feminist language. I mean not basically feminists,
• 1:16:27
  they are feminists, and they're basically saying toxic masculinity, you know,
• 1:16:31
  show your feelings, bro, and all these other feminist things about men.
• 1:16:35
  And I just I think that at the end of the day, she is
• 1:16:40
  either too agreeable to actually say what needs to be said, or she is
• 1:16:45
  okay with you know, men not getting like what they might need, which
• 1:16:50
  is not what women typically want. And yeah, I don't think it works
• 1:16:57
  so like I think that it's it's virtue. It just comes across as empty
• 1:17:00
  and shallow. Let me see if I if I can give her, maybe
• 1:17:05
  you know, the benefit of the doubt, which I'm not really well at
• 1:17:10
  least she's talking about it. I'll say that, Yeah, I'm not really
• 1:17:13
  inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. I don't watch much of
• 1:17:15
  her content, but you know, it's like she comes down on feminism,
• 1:17:20
  but at the same time, like you, like you said earlier or in
• 1:17:25
  another video, that she opens the door for only feminists to actually you know,
• 1:17:30
  be the ones to basically be the saviors of us. And it's like,
• 1:17:36
  do you not see that? Yeah, well, to some degree,
• 1:17:41
  all women are feminists to some degree, like very okay, very few are
• 1:17:45
  not, like you know, Alison, Karen, obviously my wife, there's
• 1:17:49
  a few others, but like most like ninety nine percent of women are feministists
• 1:17:55
  some degree. That's why I shared the Brett Cooper thing, because you know,
• 1:17:57
  Brett Cooper is ah, I guess a trad con woman on the Daily
• 1:18:01
  Wire, but she was even a little annoyed with a concept of passport bros.
• 1:18:08
  Right, So, and of course like she still she does support it.
• 1:18:12
  I didn't play the rest of the clips. She does support it overall,
• 1:18:15
  but I think that she would prefer that men manned up. And that's
• 1:18:18
  kind of what all feminists want. They want them to to to admit that
• 1:18:23
  they're terrible people, but they also want them to man up and deal with
• 1:18:26
  the abuse. And I think that to some degree, they all have a
• 1:18:29
  line. It's just a matter of where it gets crossed, right, And
• 1:18:31
  I think Shoe has a line too. Well. I mean, consider consider
• 1:18:35
  you know, these are a lot of this, a lot of the people
• 1:18:40
  that are making these comments, right, they still refer to you know,
• 1:18:44
  modern feminism or modern third feminism. Yeah, they'll say for a third wave
• 1:18:47
  feminism, modern feminism. I know, I've seen it. And that's that
• 1:18:51
  that's one thing that gets on that gets on my nerves, you know,
• 1:18:56
  they well it annoys me, Yeah me too. Why they are you focusing
• 1:19:01
  on just one aspect or one supposed aspect? Yeah they haven't. Well,
• 1:19:08
  you know what, you know what these people are doing, right, like
• 1:19:10
  when they do that, they're basically trying to protect the status quo of feminism
• 1:19:15
  of whatever period they think was the best. So it's either the nineties or
• 1:19:20
  the seventies or the suffrage movement. They're they're, they're always they move the
• 1:19:26
  goalpost to like when was I not upset with feminists? Okay, that's where
• 1:19:30
  I want to go back to. But it's like it's it's not but it's
• 1:19:32
  you know, it doesn't It doesn't really address the core issue, but they
• 1:19:36
  don't want to. They just they're they're they're they're just guard they're just guarding
• 1:19:40
  the status quo. The only I think that MRA's and and I you know,
• 1:19:45
  hesitate a little bit to use that term, but MRA's because you know
• 1:19:49
  who we're talking about when we say that, they're the only ones trying to
• 1:19:51
  do something different, you know what I mean, Like the only ones that
• 1:19:56
  are like can we just remove all of this man hatred shit? This read
• 1:20:00
  like like like look at this in a in a way that is first of
• 1:20:03
  all true, you know, and and and then like move from there instead
• 1:20:08
  of like, well I liked it when we thought patriarchy existed in the in
• 1:20:11
  the sixties, or when patriarchy existed in the nineteen hundreds, or when patriarch
• 1:20:15
  exists in the nineties, like I liked it then No, No, that's
• 1:20:20
  the thing most of these people, most people believe that, especially women,
• 1:20:25
  well no one wants to really deal with the core of anything. I mean,
• 1:20:29
  you look at it. They don't want to get to the root of
• 1:20:31
  any issue. You look at what Dennis Prager's video where he had what's his
• 1:20:40
  name, Brad Wilcox talking about, you know, and get married and you'll
• 1:20:44
  make more money. It's like he didn't realize he didn't understand why so many
• 1:20:48
  make tower upset. It's like, oh, because they're not. They don't
• 1:20:53
  want to. They don't want to, you know, address the issue.
• 1:20:56
  And you look at I mean, how many time have I have I super
• 1:21:00
  chatted in you know, the you know, the issue with Leah Thomas and
• 1:21:04
  everything, like you know Leah Thomas, whether he she you know, is
• 1:21:12
  a genuine well they're not genuine anymore apparently, but whether they were genuine about
• 1:21:19
  you know, being you know, transgender or not, it's like they serve
• 1:21:24
  as as a means for feminists and traditionalists to work together to to uh you
• 1:21:30
  know, just basically ignore the actual issue with men and like being like there's
• 1:21:39
  a woman who's who's you know, crying, let's tend to her. And
• 1:21:44
  you see it with uh with Carl Benjamin Sarka on a vocado, I know,
• 1:21:49
  I know, I'm and like I have like a backlog of things I
• 1:21:53
  want to respond to. Uh. The Lotus Eaters had a feminist on and
• 1:21:59
  they I think, I think it's just mainly it's a blind spot. I
• 1:22:02
  think mainly, and I know I'm being charitable, but like because in a
• 1:22:06
  way I'm like, Carl, you should know better, but I think it
• 1:22:10
  is a blind spot mainly where they're like, again, it's this thing where
• 1:22:14
  it's like I want to go back to what feminism was like in the nineties,
• 1:22:16
  because in the nineties I wasn't I wasn't as angry at feminists, so
• 1:22:19
  they must have lost control at that point instead of, like like you said,
• 1:22:23
  looking at the root, because like, I think that in general,
• 1:22:27
  our entire society has become more feminist. Like no, and I don't care
• 1:22:30
  where you are in the political spectrum, that's irrelevant. Where our whole society
• 1:22:34
  has moved more towards feminism if you're on the left, you're really far left,
• 1:22:40
  and if you're on the right, you've actually moved left, like you're
• 1:22:43
  actually left of center now. So I think that, and it's because it's
• 1:22:46
  become feminine oriented. It's it's female values are prominent, like the women is,
• 1:22:54
  the women's comfort has become the highest good, and so are and so
• 1:23:00
  you get people like that are so they think they're arguing on opposite sides of
• 1:23:05
  something and they're not. And it's all about like who likes women more?
• 1:23:10
  And that's why you have the intersectional and the turf thing going on. And
• 1:23:14
  you know, it's obviously got nothing to do with me because nobody's addressed the
• 1:23:17
  core problem. I mean, and look, I'm not for men transitioning because
• 1:23:23
  I think it's gonna end badly for them. I don't want that to happen.
• 1:23:27
  But I'm my my concern is not women's bathrooms or sports. My concern
• 1:23:31
  is those that those men's health, specifically their mental health. Right, So
• 1:23:39
  that's what that's my take on it. You know, I don't want things
• 1:23:42
  to get worse, but I'm you know, I'm just one guy, so
• 1:23:45
  I'm going to get worse. But oh yeah, but this is why I
• 1:23:50
  I don't, you know, chime in like like others like Zoobie or whoever
• 1:23:56
  you know, or change, you know, talking about women. You know,
• 1:24:00
  men should stay out of women's you know, bathrooms and everything. I'm
• 1:24:03
  not saying that men should be there. I want women to actually address it
• 1:24:10
  because a lot of people they keep focusing on on men being the problem,
• 1:24:14
  and I'm like, it's feminist that made this possible. When when remember when
• 1:24:20
  Milo said said, you know, oh, white gay men, when the
• 1:24:26
  marriage thing passes, you're all going to fall back, you know, to
• 1:24:30
  the bottom of the of the progressive stack. And that's exactly what happened.
• 1:24:33
  Ye And when it happened, gay women didn't have a cause anymore. So
• 1:24:39
  what happened next trade went exactly. Yeah, yeah, I know, it's
• 1:24:44
  all. Well, that's the thing, like it's a never the dialectic never
• 1:24:48
  ends. And that's why, you know, like you But again, people
• 1:24:51
  don't even know when the nippit in the bud. I probably should have been
• 1:24:55
  a while ago. Anyway, Zarius, I should wrap it up here.
• 1:24:59
  So do you have any final, final, final thoughts? No, I'm
• 1:25:02
  good, all right, all right, Well I hope you call back.
• 1:25:05
  Thanks so much, man, super based. Everybody in this chat is fucking
• 1:25:11
  based of shit for the most part. And I'm gonna move you back into
• 1:25:15
  the screening room and I'm gonna wrap the show up. So, uh,
• 1:25:20
  Swash is be bad sad gonna say anything or if he is, let me
• 1:25:27
  know otherwise I'm gonna close it out. But a couple of little announcements first.
• 1:25:32
  First of all, thanks guys so much for coming on. This was
• 1:25:34
  actually better than I thought it was gonna be. I hope that you guys
• 1:25:39
  have some things you want to add, like some thoughts you have in the
• 1:25:42
  comments about this, and let me know the other thing I wanted to say
• 1:25:46
  a couple of things. If you are in our discord on Saturday morning,
• 1:25:51
  at nine thirty am Eastern time, I'm gonna be streaming episodes of my favorite
• 1:25:58
  anime, JoJo's Bizarre Venture. I'm currently on season the second arc, which
• 1:26:03
  is Battle Tendency episode four or five, so about halfway through. If you
• 1:26:09
  want to watch it with us, I don't know if it's accessible to everyone,
• 1:26:15
  but try going to Badger Nation dot online that lets you get into some
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  of the discord for free. That's our official Discord, or you can become
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  a Badger by going to feed the Badger dot com. Saturday morning, nine
• 1:26:26
  thirty am. I'm gonna be playing. I'm probably gonna get through like maybe
• 1:26:31
  four or five episodes, so I might finish it, depending the at least
• 1:26:36
  battle tendency, and then we're gonna start start Us Crusaders the week after that.
• 1:26:41
  So that was the one thing I wanted to say, Joe Jolli Bizarre
• 1:26:43
  Venture on Saturday nine thirty am, be there. It's gonna be great,
• 1:26:46
  and then also on Saturday after that. I was gonna do it today,
• 1:26:53
  but I'm not going to After that. Saturday, like probably around twelve or
• 1:26:58
  one, I'm going to be probably like one o'clock. I'm gonna be streaming
• 1:27:03
  on my gaming channel, Honey Badger Arcade. Look it up, Honey Badger
• 1:27:06
  Arcade, and I'm gonna be streaming never Winter Nights two and I'm gonna be
• 1:27:12
  building. So I've never played this game before. It's completely like I've had
• 1:27:15
  it in my library, but I've never played it. I don't really do
• 1:27:18
  a lot of gaming anymore. Occasionally, I like get in like an hour
• 1:27:21
  or something, but that's about it. So I'm gonna be running or playing
• 1:27:26
  never Winter Nights too. But here's the thing. Okay, so it's an
• 1:27:28
  old Dungeon Dragons video game, but I'm gonna build an entire party, and
• 1:27:33
  the party members are all gonna be based on Badgers. So there's gonna be
• 1:27:36
  a Karen character, an Alyson character, a Hannah character, and so on
• 1:27:41
  as many as the game will let me. And I'm gonna build the characters
• 1:27:45
  on Saturday, and I want you guys to help me build the characters.
• 1:27:47
  So that is gonna be well, you'll see the stream. I'll set it
• 1:27:50
  up Saturday morning, probably around one o'clock. I'm gonna go for about an
• 1:27:55
  hour and a half and maybe maybe two hours and yeah, join us there.
• 1:28:00
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• 1:28:05
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• 1:28:13
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• 1:28:16
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• 1:28:20
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• 1:28:28
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• 1:28:30
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