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- 0:00Larry Wilson: Hi, this is Larry Wilson and this is How to Talk to Humans.
- 0:04Larry Wilson: This is the podcast that shows you how to improve your communication skills.
- 0:10Larry Wilson: Are you looking to get a better job?
- 0:12Larry Wilson: Are you looking to find a relationship?
- 0:15Larry Wilson: Are you trying to do things in your life that have frustrated you and eluded you so far?
- 0:22Larry Wilson: I can show you so easily how to change that.
- 0:25Larry Wilson: Now, I can only do it with humans.
- 0:27Larry Wilson: If you're looking to deal with vampires or zombies extraterrestrial, this is not the show for you.
- 0:33Larry Wilson: But if you're really looking to improve your communication skills, I can show you what I've learned for 40 years in the show business working with the biggest celebrities and superstars in the world.
- 0:47Larry Wilson: And their secrets are unbelievable.
- 0:52Larry Wilson: What I'm going to be teaching you during the course of this podcast every week are tools that you can use to communicate toward success.
- 1:05Larry Wilson: One of the people in this group said, uh made a comment to me, not in the training, but privately, said, uh, said, you know, it's weird, certain stuff you've been talking about for like 10 or 12 years, I now see is starting to come true.
- 1:22Larry Wilson: Like I'm seeing it come up in the news about communication stuff.
- 1:26Larry Wilson: And I said, well, it's not that it's starting to come true.
- 1:30Larry Wilson: I think it's always been true, which is why I was teaching it and presenting it, but it's now being um corroborated by other sources, by someone who did a university study about something said, oh, you know, we found that uh people who actually make eye contact on camera are able to close more business dealings than people who don't.
- 1:56Larry Wilson: And I'm thinking, well, yeah, of course, right?
- 2:00Larry Wilson: Or something about uh people who are actually listening to clients and then are able to address what the client has said in a way that shows you really saw them, you really heard them.
- 2:17Larry Wilson: Little tiny things like this.
- 2:20Larry Wilson: People who are employing empathy.
- 2:22Larry Wilson: They were saying to me, you know, it's so weird that you kind of saw this uh coming way before anyone else did it.
- 2:30Larry Wilson: And I, you know, I'm pleased when people see the power of what I'm presenting here.
- 2:36Larry Wilson: But it's not that I uh saw something like I'm some great prognosticator, that's not really what it is.
- 2:45Larry Wilson: I just go by what I see works.
- 2:50Larry Wilson: That's all.
- 2:52Larry Wilson: I don't have special uh training besides my life experience, I don't have uh university studies backing me up, I don't have advanced uh degrees to um act as some kind of resume for myself or bona fides, you know.
- 3:15Larry Wilson: I I just have spent my whole life exploring this and accumulating things that work, and it doesn't matter to me who said it or where I learned it.
- 3:31Larry Wilson: Sometimes you know from things you've heard in this training, sometimes they're very interesting where I learned them.
- 3:37Larry Wilson: And it's somebody you might not expect to have taught me something, but it doesn't really matter.
- 3:44Larry Wilson: What matters is does it work or not?
- 3:47Larry Wilson: And I guess it comes down to more does it work?
- 3:51Larry Wilson: Is it easy and can other people do it?
- 3:56Larry Wilson: Well, oddly enough, all these things that have been accumulated into Wilson method, that's what they all have in common.
- 4:06Larry Wilson: They're really easy.
- 4:09Larry Wilson: Anyone can do them, and they work so I only say all that by way of saying, because I promise you some laughs here.
- 4:21Larry Wilson: There's been a trend recently, and those of you who are on social media, I'm I assume people see similar feeds to what I see.
- 4:30Larry Wilson: Maybe not, you can tell me if you have no idea what I'm talking about.
- 4:35Larry Wilson: I see a lot of stuff on social media, I know it's on Facebook, I know it's on Instagram, of comedians doing what they now call crowd work.
- 4:48Larry Wilson: Now, there's nothing wrong with calling it crowd work, and Glenn is giving me the thumbs up again, because he knows we used to call this ad-libbing.
- 5:01Larry Wilson: In other words, something unscheduled in your show, something that was not part of the show.
- 5:10Larry Wilson: It could be that uh someone in the audience burped really loud, or could be some in the audience laughed at something that was wildly inappropriate.
- 5:23Larry Wilson: But whatever happens in the audience, I mean, sometimes some in the audience might say something to you, uh, might challenge you or criticize you or insult you or heckle you.
- 5:34Larry Wilson: But what they now call crowd work meant that the skilled and experienced performer simply effortlessly rolled with the punches and included that in their performance.
- 5:52Larry Wilson: You know, uh it could be made as a joke, it could be made really seriously, could be done a number of different ways, but it's the difference between someone who freezes like a deer in the headlights because that wasn't supposed to happen.
- 6:09Larry Wilson: Uh uh I don't have a script for what I say now.
- 6:13Larry Wilson: Well, but you're human, aren't you?
- 6:16Larry Wilson: I'm hoping you're human.
- 6:19Larry Wilson: I'm hoping that you've taken enough information that you know you have everything you need to be able to handle an unexpected turn of events.
- 6:33Larry Wilson: And someone belches very loud at a quiet, uh, suspenseful moment, and you could say, Oh, avoid the fish tacos, you know.
- 6:46Larry Wilson: I mean, it's not that funny a joke, but I guarantee you get a thunderous laugh.
- 6:54Larry Wilson: And the reason is because everyone in the audience are humans as well.
- 7:00Larry Wilson: And I've told you in other trainings here about the importance of empathy.
- 7:05Larry Wilson: The people in the audience are looking at you up in front of them speaking, whether it's a performance show like I do, like Glenn does, or whether you're making a presentation to a board of your company.
- 7:22Larry Wilson: Maybe it's three people that you have to get up in front of.
- 7:25Larry Wilson: A woman who trained with me in my uh uh boot camp, my two-day boot camp a few years back, Danielle Rosen, although I should refer to her actually as Dr.
- 7:38Larry Wilson: Danielle Rosen, because she trained with me because she was in a PhD program.
- 7:43Larry Wilson: And she knew that she was going to be forced at the end of it to defend her doctoral dissertation.
- 7:51Larry Wilson: She was gonna have to get up in front of, I think it was three people, and they would ask her questions about it, and she'd have to speak.
- 7:58Larry Wilson: In some cases, she might not know what they were gonna ask, but certainly was gonna be about her dissertation.
- 8:05Larry Wilson: And she was so great in the training, she was so great and so open to all of it.
- 8:12Larry Wilson: And then a year later sent me a video of her in her cap and gown when she graduated the PhD program as Dr.
- 8:19Larry Wilson: Dania, um, that I was very proud of her.
- 8:23Larry Wilson: But it doesn't have to be uh a show like Glenn does or I doesn't have to be like that.
- 8:30Larry Wilson: It can be anything where you have to present, you have to be in front of people.
- 8:35Larry Wilson: Maybe it's part of a you were ahead of or working with a nonprofit.
- 8:40Larry Wilson: Maybe there's 2,000 people in the room who are potential donors, and you have to get up and explain to them why they should donate to your nonprofit.
- 8:49Larry Wilson: Anything like this.
- 8:51Larry Wilson: But anything unexpected that happens, you can respond spontaneously and as a human.
- 9:02Larry Wilson: Now, I have a theory, as no doubt you're aware, I have theories about everything, about why this is suddenly becoming so popular on social media.
- 9:16Larry Wilson: And I think it's because of the very thing we talk about all the time here.
- 9:22Larry Wilson: That people are desperate for human interaction.
- 9:30Larry Wilson: I don't think you have to be a swami with a crystal ball to figure this out.
- 9:36Larry Wilson: Social media this is highly controversial what I'm about to say.
- 9:42Larry Wilson: Social media is not real.
- 9:45Larry Wilson: Now, I'm not saying it doesn't exist, obviously it exists, but it is not what it purports to be.
- 9:53Larry Wilson: People posting, you know, selfies of themselves in airplanes or fancy cars or fancy vacation places.
- 10:03Larry Wilson: That's not real.
- 10:05Larry Wilson: That's very, very low-grade show business is what it is.
- 10:10Larry Wilson: It's show business that has no story, that has no narrative.
- 10:15Larry Wilson: It's just like it's like sometimes you see those pictures of rappers holding up fistfuls of cash, you know.
- 10:22Larry Wilson: Well, that's not real.
- 10:26Larry Wilson: And I think I know all of you have seen this, uh, beside the fact that all these electronic devices have filters to make us look more attractive, to make us look skinnier, uh, to make us look younger, all these kinds of things.
- 10:43Larry Wilson: That's not real.
- 10:44Larry Wilson: That's just low-grade showbiz.
- 10:48Larry Wilson: And I believe, unconsciously, the people who are on social media are starving for real human interaction.
- 10:58Larry Wilson: So they may like your act, whatever it is.
- 11:02Larry Wilson: Maybe you're presenting something about a philosophical uh foundation you have of something, and that's being brought out to the world.
- 11:14Larry Wilson: Could be something like that.
- 11:15Larry Wilson: But it may be that whatever it is you're presenting when something unexpected happens that goes in show business.
- 11:28Larry Wilson: We we say we're going off book, and the book, of course, is a script.
- 11:34Larry Wilson: If you're doing a play that you have, if you go off book, it means you're ad-libbing, you're spontaneously saying words that no one is expecting, that no one knew, including you, were going to be spoken.
- 11:50Larry Wilson: Who knows where it's going to lead?
- 11:53Larry Wilson: But it's very exciting to an audience.
- 11:58Larry Wilson: And uh I I want to also emphasize again here, because some of you may not be with me on this, there are things that the audience does not consciously understand, and this is one of them.
- 12:10Larry Wilson: They don't know why they like it, they'll come up with reasons.
- 12:14Larry Wilson: Oh, I was so impressed with how quick-witted she was, or uh how he was uh able to handle that so deaf.
- 12:21Larry Wilson: All of that may be true, but I believe what it really is is the humanity of the moment.
- 12:31Larry Wilson: And, you know, sometimes there are people who have certain lines that they've used for a million years.
- 12:38Larry Wilson: For a million years.
- 12:39Larry Wilson: If you see enough shows, live shows, you'll start to hear sometimes lines repeated.
- 12:44Larry Wilson: Someone will stumble over their words and they'll say almost under their breath, Oh, never buy false teeth at a garage sale.
- 12:53Larry Wilson: You know, something silly like that.
- 12:57Larry Wilson: There's nothing wrong with saying something prepared, but when you say something that is genuinely ad-lib, it's galvanizing to the audience.
- 13:07Larry Wilson: It is electrifying.
- 13:09Larry Wilson: They can't look away.
- 13:11Larry Wilson: And if you're someone who has enough experience and confidence in your ability to do this, you may go on several minutes, maybe five minutes, interacting either with someone in the audience or with your own thought that just came to mind, whatever it is.
- 13:29Larry Wilson: But to the audience, it's so clear that this is a unique moment that's happening just now.
- 13:40Larry Wilson: And when it's over, it's gone.
- 13:43Larry Wilson: It's not going to be repeated.
- 13:45Larry Wilson: It only happened because someone knocked over that display and it made this big noise, and then you said something, and then the audience laughed, and then you said something else, and someone in the audience shouted something.
- 13:56Larry Wilson: They know on an unconscious level, this is just for us.
- 14:03Larry Wilson: This is something we're sharing right now as humans.
- 14:08Larry Wilson: And I believe that's the reason that ad-living, or as people now call it, crowd work, is so popular.
- 14:16Larry Wilson: Now, I have to tell you, when I was coming up in entertainment and working in a lot of clubs, there was a guy I would see in Los Angeles because he he was at uh the improv a lot, who I thought was the best ad lib person I'd ever seen, a guy named Jimmy Brogan.
- 14:40Larry Wilson: And I I don't, I mean, I met him, but he would never remember it.
- 14:44Larry Wilson: Uh it's not like we were friends or anything.
- 14:47Larry Wilson: But I was just in awe of how relaxed he was.
- 14:52Larry Wilson: And I'm not, I mean, I shouldn't say something that sounds like it might be sound like I'm insulting.
- 14:59Larry Wilson: I don't want it to be.
- 15:00Larry Wilson: I don't know if Jimmy actually had a structured act.
- 15:04Larry Wilson: I assume he must have.
- 15:06Larry Wilson: But the times that I saw him perform at the improvisation or at uh comedy and magic club in Hermosa, he just came out on stage and started talking to the audience.
- 15:19Larry Wilson: I mean, really saying, Oh, you, you know, that's funny that you're dressed this way because I was thinking, and he's off to the races, and someone in the audience says something, and Jimmy takes it and runs with it.
- 15:30Larry Wilson: And he was so adept at it that it seriously seemed like this was a polished act, but it couldn't be.
- 15:42Larry Wilson: Because how did he know what someone in the audience would say or or respond when he said, I mean, it was amazing.
- 15:49Larry Wilson: It was amazing, and I know Jimmy's performing now because uh another friend of mine, uh Roman Spinali, who's a young up-and-coming comedian, I know has worked with Jimmy just recently and said, yeah, exactly the same.
- 16:05Larry Wilson: So that's that was my foundation for seeing someone handle this with no sweat, without any fear, without any tension or anxiety.
- 16:18Larry Wilson: Jimmy is just totally relaxed.
- 16:20Larry Wilson: Now, I think it's interesting because of this prevalence now that I see online of crowd works.
- 16:29Larry Wilson: This has been Larry Wilson.
- 16:31Larry Wilson: I want to thank you for spending this time with me, and I hope you found this information useful.
- 16:38Larry Wilson: If you're looking for more, you can find it at thewilsonmethod.com.
- 16:43Larry Wilson: There's a ton of stuff there.
- 16:46Larry Wilson: If you want, you can even speak to me because I'm human.
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- 17:00Larry Wilson: I hope that you'll join us next week in this continuing journey.
- 17:06Larry Wilson: And you'll be with me for the next episode of How to Talk to Human.