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Jacquie Alexander and Gabi Sullivan’s Friendship Fallout · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Kate Torber and coming up on today's show, Gabby Sullivan
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  Speaker 1: accuses Jackie Alexander of ruining her wedding. Things heat up
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  Speaker 1: between Tammy Hembrough and Bailey Smith and Kurt Till squashes
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  Speaker 1: hair transplant rumours. But first, Sophie, you are finally back
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  Speaker 1: after 12 weeks away on maternity leave. I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 1: I was hoping though when I returned that I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be as sleep deprived as I currently am. Brandon and
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  Speaker 1: I are still doing our overnight feeds because our son Luca,
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  Speaker 1: he's a little bit on the smaller side. He's actually
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  Speaker 1: in the 2% for weight. So we are having to
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  Speaker 1: keep up those feeds until he's five kilograms. So literally
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  Speaker 1: every night that I do a late night feed, I
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  Speaker 1: get him in this bath that we have and I
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  Speaker 1: weigh him because it is my little light at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the tunnel. And last night he weighed 4.98.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, is it on tonight? Will I get
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  Speaker 1: asleep tonight? Very close. I mean, also you're assuming that
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  Speaker 1: he then doesn't wake up for that. I think I'm
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  Speaker 1: just a bit deluded at the moment with this sleep deprivation,
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  Speaker 1: but we're getting there. We're getting there. Yeah. And I
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  Speaker 1: felt for you, Soph, because just as you went on
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  Speaker 1: maternity leave, you missed out on all these massive pop
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  Speaker 1: culture stories that happened. Of course, Tammy Hembrough announced her divorce.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was literally a week after you went
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  Speaker 1: on maternity leave. It's like she knew I was going
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  Speaker 1: on leave. I was so disappointed not to be involved.
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  Speaker 1: I loved your take on it though. And the deep
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  Speaker 1: dive series, that was very good timing that that all coexists.
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  Speaker 1: And at the same time, that helped me get through
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  Speaker 1: some of those early weeks of having a newborn. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I lied a little bit in the intro, Sophie, because
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  Speaker 1: I said it was your first day back of maternity leave,
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  Speaker 1: but we managed to get you out of the house
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday, all three of us back together to do
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  Speaker 1: a photo shoot for a secret project that we have coming. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it was so much fun. I felt like a kid
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  Speaker 1: sneaking out of the house. My parents-in-law were over and
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  Speaker 1: also my husband was looking after Luca and it was
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  Speaker 1: just so nice. We went and got our makeup done.
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  Speaker 1: I felt put together. We did a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: photo shoot. We even got some sneaky McDonald's on the
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  Speaker 1: way home. It was a big day but a fun
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  Speaker 1: day and I heard you teasing about this new project
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  Speaker 2: How to deal with a friendship fallout.
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  Speaker 1: Did you guys have a friendship fallout? Yes. Jackie Alexander
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  Speaker 1: has hit back at claims that she ruined Gabby Sullivan's wedding.
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  Speaker 1: Jackie was forced to defend herself after her former bestie
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  Speaker 1: claimed she got drunk and made her cry at her
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  Speaker 1: own wedding. Before we get into the drama, Soph, can
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  Speaker 1: you give us some background on Jackie and Gabby? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I want to get us acquainted with all of the
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  Speaker 1: main players. First, we've got Jackie Alexander, and she is
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  Speaker 1: a 33-year-old fashion and lifestyle influencer who has over 500,000
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  Speaker 1: TikTok followers. She is also the co-founder of a fashion
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  Speaker 1: label as well as a reusable coffee cup business. I
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  Speaker 1: have a big soft spot for Jackie. I discovered her
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  Speaker 1: content when she was hitting back at people being ageist
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  Speaker 1: towards her and wanting to be an influencer and have
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  Speaker 1: fashion content as someone in their 30s. How dare a
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  Speaker 1: 30-year-old want to create content? I'm a big fan of her. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Jackie got engaged in August last year and she likes
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  Speaker 1: to joke that she's a bit of a wag because
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  Speaker 1: her fiance is an Olympian. He's called Nathan. He's a
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  Speaker 1: hockey player, so I really enjoyed a lot of her
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  Speaker 1: content when the Olympics were on. We got a real
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  Speaker 1: behind-the-scenes view of what it was like as the girlfriend
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  Speaker 1: or wife of an Olympian. Then we've got Gabby Sullivan. Now,
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  Speaker 1: she is a 31-year-old model and influencer who owns a
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  Speaker 1: sportswear brand. Now, she has 322,000 followers on TikTok, and
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  Speaker 1: Gabby married her longtime partner, Chad Cross, in November last year. Now,
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  Speaker 1: in terms of their friendship, the pair became friends during
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  Speaker 1: the pandemic when Jackie moved from Melbourne to Gabby's hometown
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  Speaker 1: of Perth. And it seemed like Jackie was somewhat of
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  Speaker 1: a fan of Gabby before they met because she admitted
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  Speaker 1: that she followed Gabby on social media for years. And
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  Speaker 1: with both of them being influencers, Gabby was also familiar
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  Speaker 1: with Jackie and she suggested that they catch up when
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  Speaker 1: she found out she was moving to Perth. And it
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  Speaker 1: turns out they finally met when Jackie asked Gabby to
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  Speaker 1: shoot for her fashion brand. And she later admitted it
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  Speaker 1: was a dream come true for her. From there, they
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  Speaker 1: clicked instantly and became best friends. That seems to be
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  Speaker 1: a bit of the norm in the influencer world. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like a lot of micro influencers watch bigger influencers
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  Speaker 1: from afar. Then when they suddenly gain more of a following,
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  Speaker 1: they then reach out and befriend them. Yeah. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think they were similar standings in the influencer industry
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  Speaker 1: at that time, but As an up-and-coming influencer, you're always
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  Speaker 1: going to follow other big influencers and have that sort
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  Speaker 1: of fangirl moment with them, aren't you? And you're also
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  Speaker 1: going to have a lot in common because you like
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  Speaker 1: doing the same thing, creating content. Now, it's not the
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  Speaker 1: first time that the pair have had a friendship fallout.
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  Speaker 1: So in May last year, Jackie interviewed Gabby on her
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  Speaker 1: podcast and they spoke about a fight they had that
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  Speaker 1: broke up their friendship for eight months. I found this
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  Speaker 1: episode so fascinating to listen to, particularly Gabby. at this
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  Speaker 1: point when we know there's another argument going on now
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  Speaker 1: they didn't go into the specifics of what happened this
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  Speaker 1: time they just said that something came between them that
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  Speaker 1: they should have communicated better about and they said that
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  Speaker 1: the communication following the incident made things even worse apparently
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  Speaker 1: it got so bad that they would still go to
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  Speaker 1: the same gym but ignore each other that is so
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  Speaker 1: awkward yeah and their partners got so sick of it
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  Speaker 1: that they said can you just text each other and
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  Speaker 1: catch up why does this remind me of something that
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  Speaker 1: the three of us would do but i think it's
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  Speaker 1: slightly different when your sister's like the other night at
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  Speaker 1: We had a Father's Day dinner and you were telling
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  Speaker 1: your husband, Rhys, that, oh no, or Brandon, I can't
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  Speaker 1: remember who, but you were telling someone that I unfriended
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  Speaker 1: you on Facebook and then blocked you and deleted you
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  Speaker 1: off everything just for a reaction. Oh, this was years
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  Speaker 1: ago though. This wasn't recently. No, not recently, not recently.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's something petty that you do. I
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  Speaker 1: think when you're sisters, you can kind of get away
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  Speaker 1: with it. But I think when you're friends, this really
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  Speaker 1: damages the core of the friendship, doesn't it? Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 1: when I listened to the podcast, they definitely had a
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  Speaker 1: sister dynamic. Like they didn't mind giving it back to
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  Speaker 1: each other. It turns out that Jackie actually blocked Gabby
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  Speaker 1: on her stories because she said she operates under this
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  Speaker 1: sort of out of sight, out of mind thing. Whereas
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  Speaker 1: Gabby said that she was more toxic and likes to
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  Speaker 1: quote know what this bitch is doing. Gabby's me. I
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  Speaker 1: could never do the block. I want to know... what your,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say enemy, but what your old
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  Speaker 1: friend is up to. It's kind of like a relationship.
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  Speaker 1: I never was the sort of person when I got
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  Speaker 1: broken up with someone that would be able to just
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  Speaker 1: block them and ignore. I just had to keep up
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  Speaker 1: with their life, what they're doing. Too much, I think. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Too much to my own detriment sometimes. Yeah. Well, during
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  Speaker 1: this eight month radio silence between the pair, Gabby actually
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  Speaker 1: got engaged to her longtime partner, And Jackie didn't reach out. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: They ended up reconnecting at a brand event. So this
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  Speaker 1: brand didn't know that they were arguing and invited both
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  Speaker 1: of them. Wow. I'm so surprised that they were able
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  Speaker 1: to rekindle a friendship after all of that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I know it hasn't ended well. Well, they admitted on
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  Speaker 1: this podcast that they'd had three smaller fights since that
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  Speaker 1: big one. So one of the arguments took place on
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  Speaker 1: the final day of Australian Fashion Week. So they were
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  Speaker 1: staying together in Sydney and And they were meant to
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  Speaker 1: be looking at wedding dresses for Gabby on the last
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  Speaker 1: day of the trip. However, they said they ended up
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  Speaker 1: having an argument over whether a pub is called a pub.
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  Speaker 1: Let's throw to some of what they said. Hangry. You
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  Speaker 1: were hangry. You were on your period. And when Jackie's
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  Speaker 1: on her period, fuck me. Sorry, Nathan.
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  Speaker 2: I know I am a cow it's yeah like I
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  Speaker 2: actually am yeah but like no and I think I
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  Speaker 2: was just like I just snapped and I shouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: called you a cow but I just told it I
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  Speaker 2: do get I I get it because I become like
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  Speaker 2: really annoying and I was like can you just not
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  Speaker 2: ruin this day for me of being an absolute cow like.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so confused about this pub thing. What else can
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  Speaker 1: a pub be known as? Well, I don't really know.
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  Speaker 1: A bar? Maybe it's a Melbourne versus Perth thing because
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  Speaker 1: Jackie's from Melbourne. It's funny because I can actually imagine
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  Speaker 1: us getting in a heated argument about the pronunciation of
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  Speaker 1: something or whether the word is right for something like this. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it turns out they also had another fight at the
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  Speaker 1: start of 2024 and that was in front of their
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  Speaker 1: mutual friend Lucia who was visiting Perth at the time.
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  Speaker 1: So they took her on this trip to Rottnest Island
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  Speaker 1: and they had this massive blow up on the ferry
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  Speaker 1: in front of an older couple. They said they were
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  Speaker 1: really going ham at each other and they had to
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  Speaker 1: actually apologize to the couple who also were on the
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  Speaker 1: ferry on the way back. I'm surprised no one in
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  Speaker 1: the wild has captured them arguing because it seems like
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  Speaker 1: they're having quite public spats. I think the most awkward
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  Speaker 1: part of this interview was that they'd said that they'd
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  Speaker 1: both really matured since the big fight and it's made
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  Speaker 1: their friendship stronger. Yeah, so much so that Jackie actually
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  Speaker 1: went on to be Gabby's maid of honor at her wedding. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it was an honorary maid of honor because Gabby ended
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  Speaker 1: up having quite a small ceremony. It was very extravagant,
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  Speaker 1: but she only invited 30 people and she said, She
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  Speaker 1: wanted the vibe of the wedding to be like a
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  Speaker 1: big dinner party with friends. That's how intimate this wedding was.
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  Speaker 1: So Jackie was there getting ready with Gabby, but they
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  Speaker 1: didn't have an official bridal party as such. Now, this
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  Speaker 1: wedding took place in November last year. But by February,
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  Speaker 1: there was a lot of speculation that Jackie and Gabby
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  Speaker 1: were no longer friends because people noticed that they weren't
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  Speaker 1: following each other anymore. It's a telltale sign. We had
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  Speaker 1: so many people sliding into our DMs asking us to
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  Speaker 1: speak about this potential friendship bust up. I couldn't believe
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  Speaker 1: how many people were interested in it, but we didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to touch on it until there was something concrete. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Lucy Jackson and Nikki Westcott actually added a lot of
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  Speaker 1: fuel to the fire around that time in February on
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  Speaker 1: their podcast, Happy Hour, because they spoke about how two
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  Speaker 1: of their friends had a falling out and unfollowed each other.
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  Speaker 1: And later in the episode, they implied it was over
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: competitiveness and jealousy over weddings. I love that they dropped
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  Speaker 1: that on their podcast. I am a big fan of
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: the Happy Hour podcast and Nikki and Lucy. They seem
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  Speaker 1: to be interested in the influencer tea despite being influencers themselves,
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  Speaker 1: which I enjoy. Yeah, particularly when they've got a bit
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  Speaker 1: of tea to share. Yeah, I love it. Please share more. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: we don't have to speculate anymore because Gabby has confirmed
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  Speaker 1: that they are no longer friends. Now, all of this
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  Speaker 1: drama started last Monday when Jackie shared a TikTok video
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  Speaker 1: that seemingly commented on the friendship breakdown. So in the video,
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  Speaker 1: Jackie is joined by none other than Rani Bransbury, which
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  Speaker 1: was a complete blast from the past. She lives in Perth,
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  Speaker 1: so it kind of makes sense, though. It's very Perth-centric,
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  Speaker 1: this story. Yeah, so Jackie, Rani and Gabby all used
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  Speaker 1: to be friends together. They were in a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a trio. So Jackie has filmed herself with Rani and
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  Speaker 1: added text to the screen that says, what happened to
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  Speaker 1: the trio? And in response, Jackie mimes to the lyric,
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  Speaker 1: oh boy, from the Sabrina Carpenter song, Man Child. The
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  Speaker 1: pair then shrug and look at something on Rani's phone. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: the shade. I'm living for the shade. As you can imagine,
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  Speaker 1: the comment section absolutely blew up. And while Gabby didn't comment,
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  Speaker 1: she did like a comment that said Jackie threw a
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  Speaker 1: fit at her wedding. Now, another commenter pointed this out
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  Speaker 1: and Jackie replied, I did throw a fit though. My
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  Speaker 1: dress ate. Now that comment got over 4,000 likes. Jackie
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  Speaker 1: then went on to defend herself saying, if this happened,
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  Speaker 1: why would we have posted photos, videos from the wedding together?
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  Speaker 1: Let's use critical thinking skills here. Well, it is a
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  Speaker 1: good point because if there's been a massive bust up
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  Speaker 1: at this wedding, you aren't posting photos of your honorary bridesmaid.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to try and eliminate them from those posts. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the follower replied to Jackie saying, I'm not saying it happened.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying she's spreading this narrative to which Jackie said,
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  Speaker 1: I fear you are too, babe. Someone else wrote, wait,
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  Speaker 1: what have I missed? And Jackie replied, nothing of note, queen. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Sofa Dofa also inserted herself into the narrative and she replied,
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  Speaker 1: and I oop. Rani Bransby also wrote over a bottle
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  Speaker 1: of wine and Jackie replied, say less. This to me
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  Speaker 1: feels like an old school influencer feud, the way that
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  Speaker 1: the influencers friends are actually getting involved and weighing in.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like we need a bit more of this. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's a bit petty and high school, but I feel
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  Speaker 1: like we need a bit more of that injected into
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  Speaker 1: the influencer world to make it more interesting because For
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  Speaker 1: a while there, everyone was getting too boring. Oh, it's
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  Speaker 1: so bloody entertaining. I've been glued to this all weekend.
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  Speaker 1: And I came across an old TikTok of Gabby's from
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  Speaker 1: last year in November, where she referred to Jackie as
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  Speaker 1: her best friend. And it seems like off the back
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  Speaker 1: of Jackie's TikTok, Gabby has decided, oh, well, maybe I'll
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  Speaker 1: reply to some of the commenters on this video asking
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  Speaker 1: what had happened. So she wrote back, she ruined my
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  Speaker 1: wedding day. and went on to say, we're definitely not
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  Speaker 1: friends anymore. She then took things a step further and
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  Speaker 1: shared her own clap back to TikTok on Thursday. And
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  Speaker 1: in the video, she looked seriously at the camera with
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  Speaker 1: a text on the screen that said, some people will
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  Speaker 1: never forgive you for what they did to you. Read
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  Speaker 1: that again. Someone commented, spill the tea, Jackie. And Gabby
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  Speaker 1: ended up writing under that, the truth is simple. She
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  Speaker 1: got blackout at my wedding, yelled at me in front
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  Speaker 1: of my entire family and made me cry. Obviously, after that,
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  Speaker 1: our friendship never recovered. I'm just trying to move on
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  Speaker 1: with my life. We are literally grown adults and it's
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  Speaker 1: so sad and embarrassing. Some girls thrive on drama and
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  Speaker 1: bullying in 2025. Now, that's a pretty big accusation from
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  Speaker 1: Gabby there. Oh, that's a massive accusation. And Jackie responded
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  Speaker 1: with her own clap back. And it was quite the
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  Speaker 1: timing because she was celebrating her hen's party, which also
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  Speaker 1: appears to be a collab with Cat the Label. And
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  Speaker 1: Jackie shared a video from her hens party where she
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  Speaker 1: was posing for photos sitting in the back of a
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  Speaker 1: convertible with text on the screen that said, ain't nobody
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  Speaker 1: safe when I'm a little bit drunk. The lyrics of
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  Speaker 1: that song also played. And Jackie added the caption, read
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  Speaker 1: that again, which was a copy of Gabby's caption. I
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  Speaker 1: love that she took time out of her hens to
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  Speaker 1: do this. It shows how much it's obviously impacting her.
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  Speaker 1: Someone commented under the post, so we've heard. And Jackie replied,
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  Speaker 1: Talking about me again because no one listens when they
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: speak about themselves. Now, Jackie just keeps delivering. So on Friday,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: she backed it up with a TikTok of her strutting
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: through the airport with the caption, me trying to act
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: like I'm not slowly losing my mind. And underneath the post,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: someone wrote, we need your side ASAP. And Jackie replied,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: God forbid a girl has a drink. She does have
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: a point because Gabby is really painting Jackie to be
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: someone who can't handle their alcohol. And it seems to
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: be quite clear from the fact that they've had a
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: friendship bust up before. that it's not just to do
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: with this one incident. There's a lot of things brewing
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: in the background. They clearly just clash heads. Yeah. It
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: seems to be a systemic problem. And I found this
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: focus on alcohol really interesting because as research for this episode,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I listened to the episode of Jackie's podcast where she
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: interviewed Gabby and Gabby was talking about her life and
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: she grew up as, I suppose, a teen model. And
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: when she was 15, she actually moved to Asia by
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: herself and was in this model house. And she said,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: They used to go out all the time. They didn't
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: really worry about IDs where she was living. And she
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: got into alcohol pretty early and that's part of the
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: reason that she's now sober. And she spoke about how
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: her and her partner are both sober and she kind
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: of wishes she could have a sneaky champagne on her
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: wedding as liquid courage. And Jackie was like, oh, well,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I'll have one for you. And So it seems to
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: me perhaps this is a case of their lifestyles not aligning. Oh, definitely.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's safe to say that Jackie is a
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: bit of a party girl. So it would be hard
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: as her friend if you're trying to live this sober lifestyle.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe she feels like she's been left out of a
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: few nights out as well. Who knows? Well, it was
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: interesting because during this interview on Jackie's podcast, they were
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: talking about what is it like being the only sober friend?
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: And she said, I remember every little embarrassing thing everyone
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: else does, but they don't remember shit what I did. Oh,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: so interesting. Does it sound like she's sort of lording
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: their behavior over them? Yeah, I did get that vibe.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: And I mean, we don't know what actually happened at
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: this wedding, but we've got Rani Bransby sort of backing
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: up Jackie's claims that, you know, that they were just
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: having a few drinks. So maybe it was a case
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: of a lot of the girls were drinking and having fun.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: You know, when you're in that mood and you're drinking,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: you don't know how loud you're being. And then you've
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: got Gabby who was sober, maybe wishing that she could
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: have a drink at her wedding. And it seems really Yeah,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I do feel a bit for Gabby, though, as the
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: person who is generally, well, is always the sober friend.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I don't drink. It can be hard when you're out
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and about and your friends are being obnoxious and acting
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: like dicks, really, and you're like, just rein it in,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: particularly for a wedding. Not saying that Jackie's actually done
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: anything wrong at the wedding. Yeah, but the thing is,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: if you're both sober as the bride and groom and
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: you're having this very intimate wedding where there's only 30 people,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: everyone knows you really well, And if you don't want
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: it to be a party vibe with alcohol, why don't
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: you just not serve it? Yeah, that's a good point.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: We joked, my husband and I joked, that we wouldn't
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: serve any alcohol at our wedding. But we had about
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: 100 people and we're like, well, no one will probably
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: come and no one will give a present if we
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: did that. But I don't think it would be a
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: popular decision. No. Now, the Daily Mail ended up covering
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: this story and they reached out to Jackie, who ended
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: up giving them a statement. She said, to set the
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: record straight, I did not yell at Gabby's wedding, nor
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: did I ruin her day. We continue to remain friends
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: post her wedding day. There is a deeper problem and
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: level of the story which is missing as anyone who
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: has been in a toxic friendship would completely understand. Sometimes
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: people aren't meant to be friends and that's simply what
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: has happened here. In the end, it wasn't healthy for
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the both of us and that's why it ended, which
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: had already happened once before, but I chose to forgive
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: her and try again. These accusations are false and hurtful.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: What has been more upsetting is the ongoing bullying and
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: public shaming directed at me since. I have always respected
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: that it was Gabby's special day and I would never
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: want to take away from that. But respect goes both ways.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I will not stand by silently while my character is attacked.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: That is a pretty strong statement to put out there.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: And I do feel for Jackie because there is this
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: particular narrative and story being built around her. and her
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: consumption of alcohol, which is pretty unfounded and quite unfair. Yeah,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I think the fact that she was confident enough to
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: give this statement to the Daily Mail speak volumes. Gabby's
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: very clever because she knows that there's nothing more that
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: the Daily Mail in particular love than a story where
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: a bride and a bridesmaid are pitted against each other
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: and the bridesmaid has tried to steal the show or
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: ruin the day. Because I think even just with normal people,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: weddings really do generate a lot of friendship bust-ups. They
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: bring out the worst in people, let's be honest. And
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: there's so many people who have no longer been friends
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: with someone after a wedding. They do say that sometimes
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: your wedding will be the last place that you see
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: some of your friends. And I think that's why this
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: story resonates with so many people because not only is
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: it a friendship bust-up, which a lot of us have
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: been through, but it's also due to a wedding. Got
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: to take the kids to school in a minute. I'm
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: going to Melbourne. I've got a brand event and stuff. Like,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: super quick trip. Should be fun. It appears things are
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: heating up between Tammy Hembrough and Bailey Smith, with Tammy
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: spending the second weekend in a row in the AFL players'
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: hometown of Melbourne. It seems pretty serious, and we touched
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: on last week, but it's bloody awkward because Tammy's ex-husband,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Matt Sikowski, is, of course, from Melbourne as well. She
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: never seemed to be there when they were dating. Yeah,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: because it was always Matt Sikowsky who was having to
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: jump on the plane to the Gold Coast, put in
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the effort to go and visit Tammy and her family.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Do we reckon it's because in that situation, Matt was
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the lesser known person? He was just some guy off
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: a reality show, whereas Tammy was the big star. But
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: now Tammy's in a situation where Bailey Smith in Australia
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: is more mainstream known than her. So he is the
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: bigger mainstream celebrity. Yeah, I think being an AFL player,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: he's definitely put on a pedestal. In saying that, though,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I think it has to do with the fact that
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: at the moment he's in a finals campaign and he
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: can't just drop everything to fly to the Gold Coast
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: every weekend. That's a good point. He's actually got shit
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: going on. He's got a bit going for him as well.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, Tammy does as well. She's got her businesses
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: and her children. But it shows how much she wants
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: this new romance to work. Yeah, well, she just keeps
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: using these brand events that she's invited to that she
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: would never normally go to as an excuse to go
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: to Melbourne. She actually shared a TikTok updating her followers
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: about her weekend plans and a Get Ready With Me video. Now,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: she didn't mention Bailey, but she said she was going
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: on a fun, super quick trip to Melbourne for a
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: brand event and stuff. And the brand event in question
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: was for a fashion label. And they must have been
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: thanking their lucky stars at the timing because The media
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: were in full force to get pictures of Tammy. How
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: many Melbourne brands are going to be reaching out to
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Tammy now? We've got this fantastic event in Melbourne. You've
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: got to come along.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Well, the media had an absolute field day at this
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: event because Tammy rocked up in this sarong style dress
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: with a plunging neckline. And the media were reporting that
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: she nearly had a wardrobe malfunction, which means basically her
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: boobs were about to pop out. That's very early 2000s,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the whole wardrobe malfunction stories, isn't it? It reminds me
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: of when Jennifer Hawkins genuinely had a wardrobe malfunction and
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I think she was wearing a sarong actually and her
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: sarong fell off when she was walking down the runway.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: But you know how funny it is? It just showed
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: off her G-string bikini. Like now everyone's just wearing a
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: G-string bikini. Now the media also spotted at this event
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that Tammy was wearing a $ 25, 000 Cartier watch and they're
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: claiming that this must be a gift from Bailey. I mean,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I think they're forgetting that Tammy Hembrough is worth $ 50 million.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I think she can buy her own Cartier watch. And
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: out of those two, if someone is going to be
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: gifting someone a $ 25, 000 watch, it's going to be Tammy
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: for Bailey. Now Geelong are in the finals at the moment,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: and I'm not usually one who wants to sit down
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and watch the footy on the weekend, but I wanted
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to see if I could spot Tammy Hembrough in the crowd.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: It is still unknown if she was in the stands
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: supporting Bailey. I didn't see her myself and no pap
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: shots have appeared yet. I feel like if she was
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: there in the wild, someone would have snapped a photo
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and shouted to TikTok. But then again, maybe it's not
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the demographic that's interested in Tammy Hambro. What we do
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: know is that she was in Melbourne, so she probably
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: celebrated with him at the very least after. It seems
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: like she's a bit of a lucky charm because Geelong
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: won and they're through to the prelims. I just love
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: that Tammy Hembrough is entering her WAG era, particularly after
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: her divorce. It's a bit of fun. She's on the sidelines.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I'm here for it. I love it. Bringing a bit
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: of glamour back to the AFL, isn't she? A bit
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: of glitz and glamour. I'm just counting down the days
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: to the Brownlow, to be completely honest with you. Do
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: you actually think she's going to be at it? Yes,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I definitely do think she's going to be at it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: She is gearing up to be at the Brownlow. Do
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: we reckon we'll see a bit of a sponsored number
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: for her outfit? We had Vera Wang, who provided some
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: wedding dresses for her, which she's currently trying to sell.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe she could re-wear one of the dresses. I mean,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: it was pink. Isn't it when people get divorced, didn't
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: they used to trash their dresses or dye them? Maybe
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: she could dye the dress a different color, give it
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: another spin. Yeah. Well, it's been reported that she's had
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of designers reach out to her, but The
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: strong rumor is that influencer stylist Paul Versace will be
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: dressing her for the event. Because he's very controversial at
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: the moment. He is. Now, talking about controversials, I want
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: to talk to you about what Bailey said after the
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: game to the media because I haven't heard this. This
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: is an epic quote. He was asked what he's going
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: to do with his week off footy because they've got
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: a bye in between waiting to play in the prelim.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: And he said, probably get on the piss for a bit,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: relax the mind, hang out with my mates. I think
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: there will definitely be a sneaky trip to the Gold
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Coast thrown in there. What does his coach think about
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: him saying this? See, I actually like this. I feel
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: like they're bringing a bit of character back to the game.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I know over the weekend Nick Dacos got in trouble
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: because he said the F word during a press conference and, like,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: what will little children think? And I kind of understand
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: it from that perspective. As if they're not hearing on TikTok. Yeah,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: but I just love having a bit of character to
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the game, like a bit of fun. As a Crows supporter,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I hope that Bailey Smith does get on the beers
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: and that he heads to the Gold Coast and he's not–
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: in full form if they're to face them in the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: prelim final, because what a shit game that was on
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the weekend. I'm one of those Crows fans who I'm
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: jumping back on the bandwagon. I've been off the bandwagon
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: for about 10 years. I used to be a diehard
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Crows fan. We would cry if they lost. And now
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: that we've finished as minor premiers, sorry, this is a
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: bit of footy talk for people who might not be interested,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: but as we finish as minor premiers, I'm back. I'm
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: wanting to actually watch the games. I had to beg
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: my husband, who's a massive Port fan, can we actually
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: watch the Crows games? Are you okay? What's wrong with you? Oh,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: we watched it as well. And it was so funny
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: seeing Taylor Walker play his 300th game and his son
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: standing on the sidelines in a Nick Dacos jumper. It
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: was hilarious. But those who haven't seen it, somehow his son,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: is it Louis? I can't remember his name, but he
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: is a massive fan of Collingwood and Nick Dacos. And
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: the social media teams for the Crows and Collingwood have
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: been having some fun with it. So he actually got
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: to meet Nick and he presented him with a jersey
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: and Taylor Walker was such a good sport, though. He
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: patted him on the back, gave his son a hug.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: It was the first thing he bloody saw as he's
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: being chairlifted off after a very bad loss for the Crows. Yeah. Now,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: we will get away from footy talk because some of
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: our listeners may be snoring their heads off. But in fact,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: we used to want to be sports journalists. What's happened
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: to us? Yeah, well, that's why I'm loving the influencer
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: in sports. Yeah, the crossover. Now, back to Tammy Hembrough.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: She continues to bless us with very entertaining snapchats. And
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: While she was in Melbourne over the weekend, she filmed
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: herself miming in the back of an Uber and she
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: panned her camera across as if she was going to
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: show who she was sitting next to, but then just
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: showed an empty seat and gave it the finger. When
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: she was back on the Gold Coast on Sunday, she
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: also filmed a TikTok where she was in her car
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: playing up how difficult it is to date. So the
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: caption on the screen said, trying to be cool in
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the talking stage, but you have no game. I have
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to agree. Tammy doesn't have any game. She's probably not
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: used to the chatting, dating stage because she's got no game.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: When I say she doesn't have game, obviously she does
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: have game. Everyone's saying she's collected three engagement rings. She
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: does have game. But what she doesn't have is she's
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: not used to being in a casual, fun, relaxed relationship.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Everything goes from zero to a hundred with her. So
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: she's probably like, hold on a second. Why hasn't this
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: guy proposed to me yet? Yeah, that is true. Because
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: if we reflect on her relationship with Matt Sikowski, she
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: should already have Bailey Smith's name tattooed somewhere. Or maybe
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: she does. That'll be a new rumor that the Daily
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Mail will be running. Yeah. First heard and outspoken. Don't
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: quote us on that one because we have absolutely no
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: proof of that. No. The thing is though, she's also
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: dealing with someone who is quite a bit younger than
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: her in that Gen Z demographic who He's the face
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: of Tinder at the moment. He's, you know, into casual
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: dating apparently. Yeah, I wonder if he still is on Tinder. Please,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: if you're on Tinder and you see him on there,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: let us know. Oh, as if he's actually on Tinder. Oh,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: he's not talking to anyone. He'd be on Raya. Now, meanwhile,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the Daily Mail have tried their hardest to conjure up
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a story about Tammy being involved in a neighbourhood feud.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: It sounds very Today Tonight. Oh, so I saw these
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: pap photos on Influencer Updates AU and I was like, oh,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: my God, what an invasion of privacy because– The photos
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: were of the exterior of Tammy's home, literally doxing her address.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: And the pictures were of this big ton of cardboard
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: out the front. Obviously, she'd done a big unpackaging. Well,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: it's probably a lot of PR packages that she gets sent.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I heavily related to this because we have a trailer
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: filled with cardboard, which sits to the side of our house,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: which is quite ugly to look at. But from having
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: a baby, you buy so many things. They all come
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: in large boxes. Our couch came in a large box.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: You can't get rid of this shit. Well, yeah, just
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: as regular people, you deal with a lot of cardboard.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: So imagine, you know, spare some thought for the influencers
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: that have 10 ton of it. There were also photos
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: of like shoes piled out the front. I'm like, she's
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: got three kids. Yeah. And they also noted that the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: light fitting was a bit rusty and the fence was stained.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I'm like this woman. runs two businesses and has three
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: children and, you know, is a single mum. Can we
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: give her a bit of slack? She's also been flitting
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: back and forward to Melbourne. She might not have had
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: time to do it on the weekend. So is the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: crux of this story that a neighbour has apparently complained
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and sent them through the photo? Yeah. So apparently the
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Daily Mail spotted some anonymous comments on Tammy's posts about
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: how there was a neighbourhood feud because Tammy's not maintaining
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: her front yard up to the standard that her neighbours want.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: So they flew a journalist across to investigate. And this
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: journalist obviously took the pap down, took photos of the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: front yard. And then she started doing a door knock
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: of the area and was asking Tammy's neighbors about her.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder if they went through the bins. Look,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I don't want to turn my nose up at this
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: sort of story because I did used to work it
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: today tonight. And this is the exact sort of shit
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: that we would concentrate on. Neighborhood feuds, thrown in with
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: an influencer. It's a great story. I actually love that
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: the Daily Mail was dedicated enough to send a journo
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  Speaker 1: out there door knocking. Usually they just make shit up.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I don't want to give them too much props. It
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: seems like a complete invasion of privacy because they were
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: literally going to all her neighbours being like, what do
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: you know? What does she do? It is an invasion
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: of privacy, but we've said for a while now that
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: investigative journalism is dead. Clearly it is not. Yeah, well,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: what the journalists managed to uncover is that Tammy has
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: a gardener once a fortnight and that the people were
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: just being malicious on social media. But they did manage
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: to tack on at the end that an anonymous neighbor
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: said that Tammy was quite unpopular on the street and
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: wasn't friendly. I would literally hate if an investigative journalist
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: came down to speak to our neighbors when the three
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: of us live together because- my golly, they would have
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: some stories about the constant arguing and yelling that came
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: from our house. Even if they went to our family
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  Speaker 1: home because our dad is your typical retired man who is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, has an issue when people park out the
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  Speaker 1: front of his house. It's funny because I remember growing up,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: we saw a neighbour and our mum said, oh, yes,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: we spent the weekend at Goa. And the neighbour responded, yes,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: we know, we couldn't hear your kids screaming in the backyard.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Kurt's hair's been thinning like a lot of guns for
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: the past like 10 years.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, guys.
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  Speaker 1: For weeks now, rumours have been swirling that Sarah's Day's husband,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Kurt Tills, is set to undergo a hair transplant. Speculation
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: was ignited when Kurt popped up in the background of
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: one of Sarah's reels sporting a freshly shaved head. Now, Soph,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: the new look seemed to shock a lot of Sarah's
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: followers with one describing it as a jump scare. I...
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: also got a bit of a jump scare when I
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: saw him pop up. I mean, his initial appearance was
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: so quick that you could have blinked and missed it
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: because he appeared in a reel, which was focused around
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: their son Fox cooking. So he was cooking up some
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: healthy cupcakes for his family. And Kurt was literally in
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the video for, I'd say a millisecond eating one of
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: the cupcakes, but his fleeting appearance seemed to rock some
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: followers to their core because with no warning, Kurt, who
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: has been a permanent fixture on this channel since 2017,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: was suddenly bald. And not only was he bald, but
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: he looked like an egg because his head was so
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: shiny and pale. He usually has a bit of a
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: tan to him. It was just a very dramatic change.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's a bit harsh to say he
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: looks like an egg. But what I think you're trying
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: to say is that it's not like he finally bit
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: the bullet because he has been losing his hair for
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: a bit. It's not like he finally went, I'm going
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: to go and get it shaved off. I've got a
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: bit of, you know, stubble on the head. It was
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: like literally very extreme close shave. It was very close shave. Well,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I wasn't the only one who was shocked. The top
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: comment under the video was, where is Kurt's hair? All
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: in capitals. And that comment received over 500 likes. Another
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: follower said that they almost died when they saw the
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: bald head. Whilst another said they nearly pulled their neck
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: reeling from the quick flash of Kurt's head. I have
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: to admit, that this screenshot of Kurt's bald head, it
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: did the rounds in our group chat because I, for one,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: wasn't sitting through Fox's cooking video. It was quite a
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: lengthy video. It was Amy who was very quick with
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the screenshot. Yeah. I do want to point out that
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: there is absolutely nothing wrong with having a bald head
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: or shaving your head. It's just definitely not. I've been
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: saying you should do it for years because he, as
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Sarah pointed out, for 10 years he's been losing his
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: hair and he has been holding onto the scraps a bit,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: hasn't he? Yeah, he and Sarah have been very upfront
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: with the fact that he's been losing his hair and
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: is not really sure what to do with it. They've
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: spoken about him trying different hairstyles. And that's what I
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: was most surprised about, the fact that she just dropped
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: it in this reel with no explanation. Because remember when
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: she first cut her son Fox's hair, because they let
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: it grow really long and it was at the stage
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: where they're like, oh, we've got to cut it because
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: we can't actually get a brush through it. And she
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: teased it for weeks that they were going to do
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: this unveiling of Fox's new hair. So I was surprised
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: that Kurt's hair transformation wasn't used as content, basically. Yeah,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: she's really missed an opportunity there to clickbait, hasn't she?
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's probably too busy with her three children. Now,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Sarah is known for weighing in in the comment section,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and she decided to respond to a follower who wrote, wait,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: why is Kurt bald? She replied saying, I have a
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: lot to update you on. Make sure you're watching my
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: YouTube vlogs. And this response led her followers to start
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: speculating that perhaps Kurt was set to undergo a hair transplant. Well,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: it seems to be something that a lot of men
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: are getting done now. On the most recent series of
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Love Island, it came out that Harry and Ben both
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: had had a hair plug. So the media managed to
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: dig up these before and after photos of them from
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: like some hair transplant clinic in Turkey. Oh, the transformation
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: was pretty dramatic. Oh, it's so good. That's the thing.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I would think because Kurt and Sarah have so much money,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Why not get a hair transplant if it's something that
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: is bothering you? Yeah, and particularly when Kurt joined Sarah's
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: YouTube channel, he was kind of like the Ken to
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: her Barbie. Like he was this pinup guy who was
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: very fit and he had blonde hair and he had
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: a tan. He used to rock a fake tan. He
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: seemed to be very into his appearance. I think as
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: he's gotten older, he hasn't placed as much importance into it.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: A side note, I'm a bit of a fan of
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the videos on TikTok where bald men go and get
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: the wigs done. Oh, those glue-on ones? Yeah, and you're
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: shocked at how much better they look. Sorry, I know
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: that sounds really harsh, but it's a dramatic transformation for
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: some men. I mean, some men absolutely rock a bald head.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, you think of David Beckham. He looks great
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: with his buzz cut. Well, there's those guys that actually
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: get the sort of hair stubble tattooed onto it and
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: it actually looks really good.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: The thing is, I think a lot of people assume
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: that this was also a hair transplant due to the
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: fact that Sarah was saying, look out for my video.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: There's something coming. Maybe people thought that there was some
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: sort of sponsorship deal with a surgeon, which I mean,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I would have thought that maybe surgeons would be reaching out,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: particularly surgeons in Australia who might be trying to generate
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: interest in it because a lot of people are flying Turkey,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: but you could get it done in Australia. Also, because
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: back in the day, Sarah got a deal for Kurt
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: with a dentist that got his teeth straightened. Yeah. Sarah
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: definitely knows how to generate engagement. She's always been very
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: good at it and she knows what her audience wants.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: So when she dropped her latest YouTube video, she included
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: in the title Kurt's bald. So people automatically wanted to
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: click on it and they decided to address the news
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: with humor, which I quite enjoyed. Let's throw to a
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: snippet of what they said. We have major, major family
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: news and I'm really sorry. You guys didn't even get
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: to say goodbye and it's going to be a jump
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: scare and it may be, it may really emotionally affect
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: a few people on the channel. But, Kurt is bald.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Now there's a conspiracy going around on the comments. They're like,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: he's bald because he's getting a hair transplant. Nah, I
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: just shaved it all off to get rid of it.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: tell us the story i was in the gym i
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: took my hat off my hair was just sitting in
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: a weird position and i was like not stuff this
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: i'm getting rid of it so i messaged sarah i
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: said tell the boys get the shaver out so what
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: he shaved his head at the gym no no no
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: he waited until he got home and he got fox
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: and malachi his sons to each take turns at shaving
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: his head so he knelt down in the shower so
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: that the hair would all go in there whilst they
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: were shaving his head and you could tell he was
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: almost regretting it as it was going on. Cause Sarah's like,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: are you sure that you want to do this? And
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: he's like, not really. Oh God. So is that why
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: it was such a close shave? Because they probably had
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: these kids hacking at it and they're like, well, we're
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: going to have to just go right to the scout.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe it'll look better once it grows back a little bit. Oh,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I think it definitely will. He's a nice looking guy.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: He's got a nice face. Like, of course, he'll be
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: able to rock the bald head. It just needs a
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: bit more stubble to go through. I love that they
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: actually address the conspiracy theories. I'm a fan of when
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: influencers actually touch on what everyone's been saying in the
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: comment section instead of just ignoring it. Yeah, well, good
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: on him. I kind of like that he just dealt
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: with it like a band-aid straight off. I also had
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: to laugh when their son Fox was like, you're bold, brother,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: you're bold. That was pretty funny. Well, that is where
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: we are going to leave things today. But if you
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: do want to hear more content from us, as we
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: mentioned at the start of the episode, we drop a
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: subscriber-only episode every Thursday. It is now available on our
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Spotify feed, much easier to subscribe to. If you do
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: want to subscribe, all the details are in the show notes. Again,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: that show is just an extension of this show, basically. Yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: And I think we're a bit more unhinged on there.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Is that the right word? Unhinged or just a bit
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: more unfiltered? Unfiltered is probably a nicer way to say it.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: When we have our discussions about what topics we're going
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: to cover on the regular shows, we're always like, oh,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: maybe just save that one for the subs. I think
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I feel more comfortable talking about it on the subs.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: It's pretty good timing because my son is waking up
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: for his two-hour nap. He's decided to start screaming. So
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: perfect timing. I'm very impressed with him. Thank you. It's
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: been quite relaxing recording the podcast. He is throwing his
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: legs around in there at the moment, so I better
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: go in. But this episode was recorded on the traditional
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: land of the Kaurna people of the Adelaide Plains. We
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: pay respect to elders past and present.