Latest / We Talk Back / Ep 69 "To the Moon" with JNR Choi
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- 0:01Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who
- 0:07Speaker 1: talk back.
- 0:10Speaker 2: All right, y'all. Thank you for tuning in for a
- 0:12Speaker 2: new episode of We Talk Back. It's your girl, AJ.
- 0:15Speaker 3: Y'all, it's me, Tim Bam.
- 0:17Speaker 1: I love y'all. Guess what we doing today? We are
- 0:19Speaker 1: talking to the motherfucking moon today.
- 0:22Speaker 2: What's good?
- 0:23Speaker 4: What's good? With Jay and.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Our toy, Junior Toy. Welcome. How you doing? Thank you.
- 0:28Speaker 4: I'm good. I'm good. How are you?
- 0:30Speaker 2: Good. Good.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Now, I got to start with telling you this. I've
- 0:36Speaker 1: been singing your song for a couple months now, and
- 0:39Speaker 1: I've been singing it wrong the whole time.
- 0:42Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
- 0:43Speaker 1: So, you know, the part is like, you say, pull
- 0:45Speaker 1: up the tingle and turn up. I say, pull up
- 0:48Speaker 1: the same old vagina.
- 0:50Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
- 0:50Speaker 1: That's what I thought you was saying. Pull up the
- 0:52Speaker 1: same old vagina.
- 0:53Speaker 4: How do we get that?
- 0:53Speaker 1: I'm like, we got old vagina. Old vagina good, too.
- 0:56Speaker 4: How the hell do we get that?
- 0:59Speaker 2: It does kind of sound like that.
- 1:02Speaker 1: That's my funny.
- 1:03Speaker 4: It sounds like whatever it wants you to be, like.
- 1:05Speaker 4: The minor things I've heard. Yeah, I don't know how
- 1:07Speaker 4: you got that, but all right.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Just a little icebreaker. But that's really what I thought
- 1:18Speaker 1: you were saying.
- 1:19Speaker 4: You were singing that out loud in the club?
- 1:21Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Pull up the same old thing.
- 1:24Speaker 4: I'm like, hey.
- 1:24Speaker 2: It's still lit, though.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Don't worry.
- 1:26Speaker 2: We all got no choice but to pull up with
- 1:28Speaker 2: the same one.
- 1:28Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:30Speaker 2: I wish you could swap them out every once in
- 1:32Speaker 2: a while.
- 1:32Speaker 4: Remix, remix.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Look, I'm going to be honest with you. So when
- 1:39Speaker 2: I first saw the song, like the video, your video
- 1:44Speaker 2: just came out about a month ago, right?
- 1:47Speaker 4: Yeah, one of them.
- 1:48Speaker 2: But when I started looking, I'm like, damn.
- 1:51Speaker 1: I only saw the original... Not the original. I saw the.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Version with Favio and G Herbal. And I watched it
- 2:01Speaker 2: twice because I'm like, where is this nigga's verse? But
- 2:04Speaker 2: I didn't realize... Y'all been pushing the hell out this
- 2:07Speaker 2: song because I didn't realize it has three different videos
- 2:10Speaker 2: at this point. So you got a version with Favio
- 2:12Speaker 2: and G Herbal and then another version with....
- 2:16Speaker 4: Gunna. Gunna.
- 2:17Speaker 2: Yeah, so how did that come about? How you work
- 2:19Speaker 2: with these United States rappers?
- 2:23Speaker 4: Just by being here, really.
- 2:25Speaker 2: You hot right now.
- 2:26Speaker 4: I was going to move out here anyway. I was
- 2:29Speaker 4: going to move out here anyway. I was going to
- 2:30Speaker 4: move to the States. But then once the song started
- 2:32Speaker 4: blowing up, I chilled for a second, stayed in the UK,
- 2:36Speaker 4: sorting out all this legal stuff, and then came over here.
- 2:38Speaker 4: But I was always coming over here. I'm a strong
- 2:41Speaker 4: believer of just being yourself wherever you need to be. Mm-hmm.
- 2:45Speaker 4: Everything's going to happen to you. So G Herbo was
- 2:48Speaker 4: in the studio with Metro. He just randomly came in
- 2:52Speaker 4: and he was like, you know who'd sound good on this?
- 2:54Speaker 4: He sent a verse over the next day. Favi was
- 2:58Speaker 4: a no-brainer. I was playing Call of Duty and my
- 3:02Speaker 4: boy was like, yo, Favi. I was like, yeah, that'd
- 3:04Speaker 4: be hard. He was like, let me put you in
- 3:05Speaker 4: concert with the manager. That happened over there. And then Gunnar,
- 3:09Speaker 4: my A & R, he's a good friend of mine.
- 3:12Speaker 4: And then he heard the song, loved the song, no-brainer.
- 3:15Speaker 4: Killed it.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Yeah, those are some good features.
- 3:17Speaker 4: Yeah, just by being, just got to be outside, man.
- 3:21Speaker 1: So I've seen athletes transition to music and I've seen
- 3:24Speaker 1: like actresses transition to music, but I've never seen models
- 3:29Speaker 1: transition to music. So first tell us how you got
- 3:33Speaker 1: into modeling and then tell us how it turned into
- 3:35Speaker 1: music for you.
- 3:37Speaker 4: For sure. Modeling, a lot of people used to tell
- 3:41Speaker 4: me that I should model. I used to have quite
- 3:43Speaker 4: a strong lack Fashion sense, like, I used to come
- 3:46Speaker 4: into college with some absurd clothing. People were like, well,
- 3:49Speaker 4: what's he got going on? And it was like, you know,
- 3:52Speaker 4: stand out. You should maybe get into fashion. You should model.
- 3:56Speaker 4: I kind of brushed it for a long time. And
- 3:58Speaker 4: then one of my friends, he really wanted to model.
- 4:01Speaker 4: So he was like, hey, I'm going to go and
- 4:03Speaker 4: check out some agencies. Basically, that interview himself, groceries, whatever.
- 4:07Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, cool, I'll come with you.
- 4:10Speaker 4: And then, like, he was getting interviewed, and then they were, like,
- 4:12Speaker 4: trying to interview me, too. And I was like, all right, cool,
- 4:13Speaker 4: that's good. And then they all kind of, like, brushed it.
- 4:16Speaker 4: They were all like, oh, no, we think you'd be
- 4:17Speaker 4: good somewhere else. And then now I was like, hey,
- 4:20Speaker 4: hold on. Like, nah.
- 4:21Speaker 2: The rejection.
- 4:22Speaker 4: The fact they said no, kind of like, yeah, they
- 4:24Speaker 4: rejected me and they charged me. I was like, what
- 4:26Speaker 4: do you mean no? So I went back. I went back.
- 4:30Speaker 4: I'd done my research, you know. Peeped up all the agencies,
- 4:34Speaker 4: saw what they were good for. They're all good for
- 4:35Speaker 4: their own reasons. Found, like, where I would, I felt
- 4:39Speaker 4: like I'd feel most, like, comfortable in like what kind
- 4:43Speaker 4: of you know there's like editorials there's runway there's commercial
- 4:47Speaker 4: stuff so you kind of just have to like choose
- 4:49Speaker 4: your fighter i was like i'm gonna run for all
- 4:51Speaker 4: of them and then i kind of just you know
- 4:54Speaker 4: cleared my skin got ready um and then one day
- 4:58Speaker 4: i actually got scouted at work um randomly i was
- 5:02Speaker 4: working in top man i don't know if you have
- 5:03Speaker 4: these but i.
- 5:03Speaker 3: Was working in the top man i used to live.
- 5:06Speaker 4: In england yeah yeah oh fire i was working in
- 5:10Speaker 4: top man and then um Randomly, one lady come in
- 5:13Speaker 4: and was just like, yo, I think you should model.
- 5:14Speaker 4: I was like, I'll let, sign the contract the next
- 5:17Speaker 4: day and just quit.
- 5:18Speaker 1: The next day? Sheesh.
- 5:20Speaker 4: Yeah, next day. That's what's up.
- 5:22Speaker 2: So fashion and music has always went hand in hand.
- 5:24Speaker 2: So was it more intentional for you to make music
- 5:27Speaker 2: for Fashion Runway?
- 5:32Speaker 4: Music was random. Music was very like.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Because don't nobody be walking down the runway with no music.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
- 5:40Speaker 4: It just go together. No, for sure.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Kanye might have motherfuckers walking down the runway in silence.
- 5:46Speaker 4: Yeah. Can you imagine? Just clapping. You know what? I've
- 5:48Speaker 4: seen that shit. I've never seen that shit.
- 5:50Speaker 3: Really?
- 5:51Speaker 2: That shit was boring as hell.
- 5:52Speaker 4: Some Balenciaga sign. Just for suspense.
- 5:54Speaker 1: So, all right. You walk for some top designers. What
- 5:59Speaker 1: was your biggest, like, oh, shit moment? Like, oh, shit.
- 6:02Speaker 1: This is crazy.
- 6:02Speaker 4: Like... I think it was Givenchy. But when Ricardo Tisci
- 6:08Speaker 4: was still in the head. Yeah, I remember just like
- 6:12Speaker 4: walking into the venue like, oh, this is not a room.
- 6:17Speaker 4: This is a whole like cathedral. So, yeah, I was
- 6:22Speaker 4: probably like, whoa.
- 6:23Speaker 1: That was your oh shit moment.
- 6:25Speaker 4: All right.
- 6:25Speaker 1: So I see like a lot of people are, you're
- 6:28Speaker 1: viral on TikTok. I just started a TikTok for myself
- 6:31Speaker 1: because I'm a little older. That ain't even my thing, right?
- 6:35Speaker 1: But I started one because my producer said I need
- 6:37Speaker 1: to be more present on social media.
- 6:40Speaker 4: I've heard that one before.
- 6:42Speaker 2: Right.
- 6:42Speaker 1: So I've been watching people dancing to your song on TikTok.
- 6:47Speaker 1: And there's a particular dance that I see people doing
- 6:50Speaker 1: where they're kicking their foot out and kicking to the side.
- 6:52Speaker 1: You know how to do it?
- 6:53Speaker 4: Nah, what's it called? The sturdy or something.
- 6:55Speaker 2: The what?
- 6:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 6:56Speaker 2: What's it called?
- 6:56Speaker 4: Yeah, nah. Sturdy? I don't know. I literally just come
- 6:59Speaker 4: across it recently as well.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:01Speaker 4: I just run over it. You can't do it?
- 7:03Speaker 2: Nah.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Damn, I was hoping you could teach me, right?
- 7:06Speaker 4: I'm too tall for that. My legs will snap. I'm
- 7:08Speaker 4: too tall for that.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Do you attribute a lot of the success of To
- 7:15Speaker 2: The Moon to TikTok? Because that's when we, I feel
- 7:19Speaker 2: like that's when we first heard it in the United States.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:23Speaker 4: It definitely helped cross the borders, for sure. I saw
- 7:28Speaker 4: that stuff in Africa, the U.S. heavy. Yeah, 100%. Help
- 7:34Speaker 4: is good.
- 7:35Speaker 1: Question.
- 7:36Speaker 3: I saw you said that your music is Afro drill.
- 7:42Speaker 1: What's Afro drill versus Afro drill?
- 7:45Speaker 2: UK drill, yeah. What's the difference?
- 7:48Speaker 4: It's an African essence in drill.
- 7:51Speaker 1: What's drill, though?
- 7:53Speaker 4: That's what everyone else is saying. I'm going to draw it.
- 7:57Speaker 2: So you're making drill music. So in Chicago, we know
- 8:00Speaker 2: what drill music is. And in New York, what drill
- 8:02Speaker 2: music is.
- 8:03Speaker 1: I don't know what that is.
- 8:05Speaker 2: I'm about to tell you. Drill music, essentially, because you
- 8:09Speaker 2: know the mirror, whatever, in New York is trying to
- 8:11Speaker 2: ban drill music. Because it's like people committing crimes and
- 8:15Speaker 2: actually rapping about it. That's what drill music is.
- 8:20Speaker 1: So that's what drill is? Like crime?
- 8:21Speaker 4: I thought that was just real music.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Nah. Most of the rappers, they rap about shit they're
- 8:29Speaker 2: not actually doing anymore. But with drill music, you have
- 8:33Speaker 2: the younger guys rapping about possibly killing somebody last week.
- 8:38Speaker 2: I'm not trying to dim the mood, but yeah, and
- 8:41Speaker 2: they'll put that shit in the song. That's what drill
- 8:43Speaker 2: music is, essentially.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Is that what it is to you?
- 8:48Speaker 4: To me?
- 8:49Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:50Speaker 4: No, I just hear it in the production. So it's
- 8:53Speaker 4: like the hi-hats. There's certain slides that are in there.
- 8:57Speaker 4: It's a certain tempo that has you bopping in a
- 9:02Speaker 4: certain way, which usually is, I don't know, lyrically aggressive
- 9:08Speaker 4: and gang-related. But I don't know. That's kind of why
- 9:12Speaker 4: I never really wanted to jump on that genre. Mm-hmm.
- 9:16Speaker 4: I make a lot of music. I make Afro beats,
- 9:18Speaker 4: I make R & B, I make trap. I was like, well,
- 9:20Speaker 4: if I'm going to jump on drill, I'm going to
- 9:21Speaker 4: do it my own way. And then I'm going to
- 9:23Speaker 4: do it how I feel. And I feel like an
- 9:25Speaker 4: African essence within me.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Right.
- 9:28Speaker 4: And I make it universal.
- 9:31Speaker 2: So it's more about the production.
- 9:32Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Versus, like, you ain't shooting and killing nobody.
- 9:37Speaker 4: Nah. I'm too pretty for that.
- 9:42Speaker 2: Damn, you said them niggas ain't creative.
- 9:43Speaker 4: I'm enjoying life.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Or pretty. Y'all niggas ugly and ain't creative.
- 9:51Speaker 4: I'm just sipping tequila and loving life.
- 9:55Speaker 1: Right.
- 9:58Speaker 3: So you're from, you're originally from Gambia?
- 10:03Speaker 1: Yeah. So you were born and raised in Gambia. When
- 10:06Speaker 1: did you move to the UK?
- 10:07Speaker 4: Unfortunately, no, I was born and raised in the UK. Okay. Yeah,
- 10:11Speaker 4: I was born and raised in London and I moved
- 10:13Speaker 4: out to Essex. I hate Africa like every year.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Okay, so how do you feel like your culture has
- 10:21Speaker 1: influenced your sound?
- 10:24Speaker 4: Again, by bringing a lot of Afro in my essence.
- 10:27Speaker 4: Almost like every song I've been making recently has just
- 10:31Speaker 4: had that strong African gene in it. Also just the melodies.
- 10:38Speaker 4: There's a lot of melodies in African music.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:42Speaker 4: There's a lot of melodies in my music.
- 10:44Speaker 2: So look, I literally talk to the moon, right? Trees, rivers.
- 10:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:51Speaker 2: So is there more of a esoteric or metaphorical or
- 10:55Speaker 2: metaphysical message behind the song?
- 11:00Speaker 1: The song?
- 11:02Speaker 4: No.
- 11:03Speaker 2: No? Nothing? I think there is.
- 11:06Speaker 4: People are about to slide in like, yeah.
- 11:09Speaker 2: The thing is that it may not be yet. You
- 11:13Speaker 2: don't know it, maybe.
- 11:14Speaker 4: Hmm. I believe it is for a lot of people
- 11:18Speaker 4: because I have had many messages about that stuff. And
- 11:23Speaker 4: it's something that I do too. But in the making
- 11:28Speaker 4: of it, absolutely not. There was no intention.
- 11:32Speaker 1: So, all right, you're a JNR or junior choice. Is
- 11:35Speaker 1: there a senior choice?
- 11:37Speaker 4: Is there a senior choice?
- 11:40Speaker 2: My father? Like, if we need him on We Talk Back.
- 11:44Speaker 2: I'm kind.
- 11:47Speaker 4: I'm the daddy of the house.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Alright, so when you go home, you spend a lot
- 11:59Speaker 1: of time in New York. When you go home... Are
- 12:02Speaker 1: people like, what is it like going back home? Because,
- 12:04Speaker 1: you know, you grew up there. These people know you
- 12:07Speaker 1: from childhood and all that. Do they treat you like
- 12:09Speaker 1: a celebrity or they treat you like, there go.
- 12:11Speaker 4: Junior, man.
- 12:12Speaker 1: You're trying to get some of this.
- 12:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:15Speaker 1: Or whatever y'all eat.
- 12:17Speaker 4: I'll say they treat me like, they don't know how
- 12:19Speaker 4: to act. They treat you like. They don't know how
- 12:23Speaker 4: to act. So if that's a celebrity, like.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:28Speaker 4: Okay. But they'll just, they'll be like, oh. Or it
- 12:33Speaker 4: would be like, congrats. There's a lot of congratulations. There's
- 12:35Speaker 4: a lot of homage to you. There's a lot of,
- 12:38Speaker 4: I mean, seeing you working hard.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Are you single?
- 12:42Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 12:43Speaker 3: Okay.
- 12:43Speaker 1: I was about to say, is there a girl who
- 12:45Speaker 1: transitioned from regular to fame with you?
- 12:50Speaker 4: Is there a girl who transitioned? Nah.
- 12:54Speaker 1: Don't have nobody mad at you after this interview now.
- 12:57Speaker 4: No, impossible. That's my number one rule.
- 12:59Speaker 3: Impossible.
- 13:00Speaker 4: Impossible.
- 13:02Speaker 2: I know African parents be wanting their kids to be
- 13:06Speaker 2: doctors and lawyers. Is your mom proud of what you're doing?
- 13:11Speaker 4: Yeah, she's like my number one fan.
- 13:13Speaker 2: Does she listen to the drill music?
- 13:17Speaker 4: She listens to that. She listens to everything and everything
- 13:20Speaker 4: right now. It's mad funny. She'll be coming into my
- 13:22Speaker 4: pictures like P with a P emoji.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Is she pushing P?
- 13:27Speaker 4: She's pushing P. He's like, yeah, good looks, peace.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Wait, how old is your mom and shit? His mom
- 13:32Speaker 2: probably our age. No, don't do that.
- 13:35Speaker 1: Not your age, bitch. Not my age.
- 13:38Speaker 2: So, all right.
- 13:42Speaker 1: When you go to the studio, what is your vibe? Like,
- 13:44Speaker 1: do you set like a vibe when you go in
- 13:46Speaker 1: the studio? And when do you go? Are you like
- 13:48Speaker 1: an early morning studio guy or like a nighttime studio guy? Like,
- 13:51Speaker 1: what does that look like for you?
- 13:53Speaker 4: Cool. So, I prefer the evening. Mm-hmm. because it's more
- 13:58Speaker 4: acceptable to actually sip. You can't be sipping at 12
- 14:01Speaker 4: o'clock in the afternoon.
- 14:04Speaker 1: Do it by yourself.
- 14:09Speaker 4: Yeah. That was.
- 14:13Speaker 2: The word.
- 14:16Speaker 4: I'm good at adapting to whatever situation, whatever circumstance. So
- 14:20Speaker 4: if I'm in there, it's just like as long as
- 14:23Speaker 4: I can catch the vibe, with the beat and I'm good.
- 14:26Speaker 4: So we'll just go through, I don't know if it's
- 14:28Speaker 4: working with a producer, it will swing through some beats
- 14:30Speaker 4: or we'll start creating something. And then I just lock
- 14:33Speaker 4: in a hundred percent. Like I'll be like a part
- 14:35Speaker 4: of the whole process. Um, we'll get the melodies down.
- 14:39Speaker 4: I've been, I've been, I really do anything, but yeah,
- 14:44Speaker 4: we'll either get the melodies down and we'll just jump
- 14:46Speaker 4: straight in and start like freestyling, getting something off, like
- 14:51Speaker 4: getting vibes out. Um, And then before you know it,
- 14:54Speaker 4: there's like a whole track, like an hour, two hours.
- 14:58Speaker 3: So is it like a club setting? Like y'all got
- 15:00Speaker 3: girls in there dancing like.
- 15:01Speaker 4: Yeah, do your dance. No. No. When girls come to
- 15:06Speaker 4: the studio, it's mad funny. They just sit there. They
- 15:09Speaker 4: just sit there smiling like, this is good. All right.
- 15:15Speaker 4: Or they do the opposite and just try and be too,
- 15:17Speaker 4: and they're like, oh, you shouldn't.
- 15:18Speaker 1: Trying to tell you what to do. Trying to instruct you. Like, girl,
- 15:23Speaker 1: you ain't got a song out, relax.
- 15:26Speaker 4: Or the funniest one is when they have their own
- 15:27Speaker 4: music and then you never knew that. And then they
- 15:30Speaker 4: just slide it through. You're like, oh, oh, that's, okay.
- 15:34Speaker 4: That's what you do.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Shit, but when you get into management.
- 15:37Speaker 1: I'm trying to get.
- 15:38Speaker 4: You on that song. Yeah, no, 100%, 100%. But yeah,
- 15:42Speaker 4: I'm going to have some beautiful artists. I already have
- 15:44Speaker 4: a few, man.
- 15:44Speaker 2: So which is the bigger hustle? The modeling business or
- 15:47Speaker 2: music business?
- 15:52Speaker 4: Bigger hustle as harder to do or like, what.
- 15:56Speaker 2: Am I more interested in? Which one do you have
- 15:57Speaker 2: to work the hardest at, basically?
- 16:02Speaker 4: See, with music, it feels like easy work. You know,
- 16:05Speaker 4: making songs that comes out naturally. You know, doing interviews
- 16:11Speaker 4: and speaking to people and all that stuff. I kind
- 16:14Speaker 4: of enjoy it. So I think modeling because it's quite,
- 16:17Speaker 4: it leaves me in a space of like, there's too
- 16:19Speaker 4: much time on my hands to just, I think more
- 16:23Speaker 4: time I'm not shooting, I'm like, why am I shooting?
- 16:25Speaker 4: Why am I here? I'm really bad. What am I
- 16:28Speaker 4: doing here? But the outcome is always nice. The pictures
- 16:31Speaker 4: look nice and stuff and whatever. But more time I'm
- 16:35Speaker 4: just like, I'm really standing here for eight hours. enough
- 16:38Speaker 4: to be here.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Do you see yourself bridging music? I saw your album.
- 16:46Speaker 1: It sounded like a line dropping for fall. SS21.
- 16:52Speaker 4: For sure.
- 16:52Speaker 1: Do you actually see potentially creating fashion with your music
- 16:57Speaker 1: dropping at.
- 16:57Speaker 4: The same time?
- 16:58Speaker 1: 100%.
- 16:58Speaker 4: Can you imagine? I don't want to give too much.
- 17:01Speaker 4: Just imagine a collection coming out of every collection. That's crazy.
- 17:04Speaker 1: That would be super dope. It would be like Kanye West.
- 17:07Speaker 4: 100%.
- 17:08Speaker 1: I'm excited for that.
- 17:10Speaker 4: New gen.
- 17:12Speaker 3: I see you're a Taurus. You got a birthday coming soon?
- 17:15Speaker 4: Yeah. What you doing? 16 days.
- 17:18Speaker 1: What you doing?
- 17:19Speaker 4: I don't know because I'm supposed to be in Atlanta
- 17:21Speaker 4: at the time, but I don't really feel like spending
- 17:23Speaker 4: my birthday in the strip club.
- 17:24Speaker 2: What's 16 days from now? May what?
- 17:29Speaker 4: 20.
- 17:30Speaker 2: May 20?
- 17:31Speaker 1: Yeah, don't be in the strip club. That's so 2021.
- 17:33Speaker 4: Not for your birthday. I might just fly somewhere tropical.
- 17:37Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 17:38Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 17:39Speaker 4: I'm thinking about going to Jamaica or something.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Yeah, Jamaica. That sounds nice.
- 17:43Speaker 3: AJ, you're about to go to Jamaica this weekend.
- 17:46Speaker 2: Yeah, Sunday.
- 17:47Speaker 1: That's what you should do.
- 17:48Speaker 2: I'm taking a nice young lady with you.
- 17:53Speaker 4: You already know.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Pull up the same old vagina.
- 17:57Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Oh, goodness. All right, so what are you listening to
- 18:07Speaker 1: right now outside of your own music? Like, who are
- 18:09Speaker 1: you spinning right now?
- 18:11Speaker 4: Future.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Future?
- 18:13Speaker 4: Oh, God.
- 18:16Speaker 1: Red flag.
- 18:17Speaker 2: That's a red flag all day long. Look, go to
- 18:22Speaker 2: Jamaica by your damn self. Do not harass nobody's daughter, okay? Okay.
- 18:26Speaker 4: I never liked you anyway.
- 18:28Speaker 1: I never liked you.
- 18:34Speaker 4: We just friends. That's the one.
- 18:36Speaker 2: We just friends.
- 18:37Speaker 4: What do you mean, what are we? What do you mean,
- 18:39Speaker 4: what are we?
- 18:41Speaker 2: We are farmers.
- 18:43Speaker 4: Enjoy the holiday and keep it moving, man.
- 18:48Speaker 1: Right. So, all right. Outside of future, you know, listening
- 18:52Speaker 1: to that right now, like, who are your musical inspirations
- 18:55Speaker 1: growing up, like.
- 18:56Speaker 3: Or now?
- 18:58Speaker 4: The Weeknd, St. John, Tory Lanez.
- 19:04Speaker 2: I get Travis Scott, no? You remind me of the
- 19:08Speaker 2: Travis Scott.
- 19:09Speaker 4: Do you know, I get everything. I get Travis Scott,
- 19:14Speaker 4: I get Young Thug. What was the other one?
- 19:16Speaker 1: Pop Smoke.
- 19:17Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, Pop Smoke all the time.
- 19:20Speaker 1: How does that make you feel to be compared to
- 19:22Speaker 1: these people?
- 19:23Speaker 4: I mean, I try to look at the positive in
- 19:25Speaker 4: everything and to be compared to goats, I am at it.
- 19:29Speaker 1: Right, right. That's a fact.
- 19:32Speaker 4: There'll be Junior Choi comparisons on the way.
- 19:35Speaker 2: So what's next for Junior Choi?
- 19:40Speaker 4: So it's single time and there's so much music. There's
- 19:44Speaker 4: so much music coming. And it's summertime, so I'm coming
- 19:47Speaker 4: to set a vibe for summer. For sure.
- 19:50Speaker 1: That's exciting. You can't give us a little.
- 19:53Speaker 4: Snippet or nothing. Any new album this year? This year,
- 19:58Speaker 4: we're going to have a new tape. We're going to
- 20:00Speaker 4: have a new tape. Another summer tape, for sure. Sniff it.
- 20:04Speaker 4: I might even kill me.
- 20:07Speaker 1: We had to ask.
- 20:08Speaker 2: I think I'm a whole A & R. I got
- 20:10Speaker 2: to air for music now. So when you were making
- 20:13Speaker 2: To The Moon, did you know this was it? Without
- 20:16Speaker 2: anybody else telling you, did you know it was a hit?
- 20:19Speaker 2: Because certain songs you listen to, and even I can
- 20:22Speaker 2: imagine making music, you'd be like, yeah, this is the one.
- 20:24Speaker 4: I knew it was a good song. I knew it
- 20:27Speaker 4: was going to pass the vibe check, if that makes sense.
- 20:30Speaker 4: I knew it was that. I can put this in there.
- 20:33Speaker 4: it would be good for like, you know, people that
- 20:35Speaker 4: like drool or whatever.
- 20:37Speaker 1: When did you discover like, oh shit, everybody is feeling this.
- 20:41Speaker 1: Was you like outside somewhere and you walked past some
- 20:43Speaker 1: white man walking up to you? Like, what happened?
- 20:48Speaker 4: There's been, there's been a few moments. There's been, the
- 20:51Speaker 4: first one was when I, when I put it on TikTok.
- 20:53Speaker 4: Because I put it up on TikTok and it was
- 20:55Speaker 4: literally like this. I was laying in bed and then
- 20:58Speaker 4: I took a nap for like an hour and then
- 21:00Speaker 4: I woke up and it was like, Mad comments, mad views,
- 21:04Speaker 4: mad likes. I was like, oh, my friend's buzzing, blowing up.
- 21:08Speaker 4: That was the first kind of like, okay, cool. This is,
- 21:11Speaker 4: something's happening here. And then when we got to Miami,
- 21:14Speaker 4: I think it was Miami. I think it was Miami.
- 21:17Speaker 4: And then there was like, there was like three things
- 21:19Speaker 4: at once that just happened. Someone drove past, blasting it
- 21:24Speaker 4: in the car. Some girl was making a TikTok to it,
- 21:26Speaker 4: like on the beach. And then something else happened all
- 21:28Speaker 4: in one. I was like, cool, this is out of
- 21:31Speaker 4: my control.
- 21:32Speaker 2: Because you was talking to the moon you see what
- 21:35Speaker 2: I'm talking about like is this some shit that was
- 21:37Speaker 2: outside of you right yeah.
- 21:39Speaker 4: 100% 100% I see where you're going.
- 21:43Speaker 1: With this yeah so let me ask you this alright
- 21:49Speaker 1: that sample is Bruno Mars did you communicate with him
- 21:52Speaker 1: about the song like how did that conversation go or
- 21:55Speaker 1: did it not happen like it was just kind of
- 21:56Speaker 1: like we just took it.
- 21:58Speaker 4: And ran with it yeah well we didn't All right, firstly,
- 22:05Speaker 4: no disrespect, but I actually didn't know there was a sample.
- 22:08Speaker 4: I quite live under a rock. So when I heard
- 22:10Speaker 4: the beat, it was just like, it was just as
- 22:13Speaker 4: the beat is.
- 22:14Speaker 2: Because people just send you beats, right?
- 22:15Speaker 4: I was just like, oh, this is cool. Right, so
- 22:17Speaker 4: I was just going through them, and then I was
- 22:19Speaker 4: just like, oh, this is fire, bam. And I love
- 22:22Speaker 4: Bruno Mars. I used to listen to him just the
- 22:24Speaker 4: way you are all the time. He used to sing
- 22:25Speaker 4: like my little brother. But I never really tapped in
- 22:29Speaker 4: to be like, oh, yeah, that's that song. And it
- 22:31Speaker 4: was a sample of a cover of a guy called Sam.
- 22:37Speaker 4: So there was like, so it was a sample of
- 22:38Speaker 4: a sample of a sample or something like that.
- 22:41Speaker 1: Like most people today.
- 22:44Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 22:44Speaker 4: Right.
- 22:45Speaker 2: Hey, look, you see, Bruno can't even talk shit. They asked,
- 22:47Speaker 2: I got sued a couple of times. For sampling, sampling, sampling.
- 22:53Speaker 4: Bruno himself was loving it. He's happy with what we
- 22:57Speaker 4: did with it. I heard that from his team. And
- 22:59Speaker 4: I actually met one of the writers, too, that was like, yeah,
- 23:02Speaker 4: we did that.
- 23:04Speaker 2: It's definitely funny.
- 23:06Speaker 1: We have a segment on our show. It's called Dumb
- 23:09Speaker 1: Bitch Story, right? Or Simp Series. And that's where we
- 23:13Speaker 1: have our guests talk about a time they got played.
- 23:17Speaker 3: By a woman or a man, obviously by a woman
- 23:19Speaker 3: for you.
- 23:20Speaker 1: She did some shit. You were like, wow, to me?
- 23:23Speaker 3: Junior Choi, bitch?
- 23:24Speaker 4: You know what I mean? What happened to me?
- 23:28Speaker 1: Can you share a story with us about a time
- 23:32Speaker 1: you was like, wow, seriously?
- 23:33Speaker 4: I don't think I have any.
- 23:36Speaker 2: Listen, you got some because people like the older men,
- 23:39Speaker 2: they always go back around your age and tell us
- 23:42Speaker 2: a story about some shit that happened to them in college.
- 23:44Speaker 2: Like you're in college or just got out of college.
- 23:47Speaker 2: So I know you got some stories.
- 23:49Speaker 1: That age, yeah. You're in that age group. Or even
- 23:51Speaker 1: like some niggas be like, oh, in high school, this
- 23:54Speaker 1: girl did this. So you don't have a.
- 23:59Speaker 4: I never let myself get gut. No? I've never let
- 24:02Speaker 4: myself get gut.
- 24:03Speaker 2: So you've been this fly your whole life. That's what
- 24:05Speaker 2: you're trying to tell us.
- 24:06Speaker 1: You've been this fly your whole life.
- 24:07Speaker 4: I have never let myself get gut. Ever.
- 24:10Speaker 1: Well, just keep living, baby.
- 24:12Speaker 4: You'll have a good.
- 24:13Speaker 1: Chance in a minute.
- 24:15Speaker 4: I'm even trying to think.
- 24:16Speaker 2: You might have to stick somebody on him.
- 24:18Speaker 4: Is there a time where I've been like, are you
- 24:21Speaker 4: going to stick? The moment I sense it, I'm like, no,
- 24:24Speaker 4: I'm out. I'm out. I'm good.
- 24:27Speaker 2: That's a good way to be.
- 24:30Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:31Speaker 4: They're everywhere. Don't get me wrong. They're everywhere.
- 24:33Speaker 1: But I'm just like, nah. How do you handle that
- 24:37Speaker 1: with the fame and having women? I'm sure you have
- 24:40Speaker 1: young women just throwing themselves at you and trying to
- 24:44Speaker 1: just be clout chase and be in the vibe.
- 24:48Speaker 3: How do you handle that?
- 24:51Speaker 4: I'm quite dismissive of it. I've always kind of had
- 24:54Speaker 4: my type. I mean, my type don't like me anymore.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Hold on, what's the type? Yes, I need to know.
- 24:59Speaker 2: What's the type?
- 25:00Speaker 4: You know, just like a good woman. A good woman.
- 25:02Speaker 4: You know, their vibes. They know how to have vibes,
- 25:07Speaker 4: but they're not outside. They don't like me anymore. They
- 25:12Speaker 4: don't want to be creepy, so they don't like me anymore.
- 25:14Speaker 3: Oh, so what you like doesn't like you. How does
- 25:16Speaker 3: that make you feel?
- 25:17Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. It just happened.
- 25:19Speaker 2: Now you're stuck with thoughts.
- 25:21Speaker 4: I'm upset. I know, and I don't want that. And
- 25:25Speaker 4: I don't want them. So I'm just like, I either
- 25:28Speaker 4: have to wipe someone off right now or that's it.
- 25:30Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm upset. I've been talking about it
- 25:33Speaker 4: every day. I'm like, God. Lost all my joints. Don't
- 25:38Speaker 4: want me no more.
- 25:40Speaker 2: Look, at the end of the original video, I noticed
- 25:43Speaker 2: that you had different, it looked like different versions of you, maybe.
- 25:49Speaker 2: Do you remember? You know what I'm talking about?
- 25:50Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
- 25:51Speaker 2: You had your glasses on, you had your nose ring
- 25:54Speaker 2: in another image, and then it was another one. Is that,
- 25:57Speaker 2: because I know you have, you said that summertime is
- 26:00Speaker 2: more for the women, right? And the club hits. And
- 26:02Speaker 2: winter is for your drill music, I guess, right? So
- 26:08Speaker 2: is this when all these different... You heard this shit?
- 26:11Speaker 2: That's for the demons. That's for the demons.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Y'all hear that?
- 26:15Speaker 4: It's for the demons.
- 26:16Speaker 2: It's demon time in the winter.
- 26:17Speaker 4: It's time to play.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Niggas should be inside. It's cold outside. I'm confused. It
- 26:21Speaker 2: seems like summertime would be for that.
- 26:25Speaker 4: Summer's just... Summer's pretty, man. Summer's like... Summer's got a
- 26:28Speaker 4: nice essence to it. You want to be chilling in
- 26:29Speaker 4: the park with some girls. It's like wintertime. You're like,
- 26:33Speaker 4: where the joint? He's brave enough to come outside.
- 26:39Speaker 1: Especially a UK winner because in London, it's not a
- 26:43Speaker 1: freezing your nose outside during the winter out there, bruh.
- 26:46Speaker 1: It's different.
- 26:47Speaker 4: Yeah, see. If a hoe is outside in that, you
- 26:50Speaker 4: know she's steaming time.
- 26:53Speaker 2: With no coat on.
- 26:54Speaker 4: No. I'm waiting outside in the QTG at a club,
- 26:58Speaker 4: you know.
- 26:59Speaker 1: That's something. So, all right. My last question. All right.
- 27:07Speaker 3: You've been in the U.S. for some time now, back
- 27:10Speaker 3: and forth. Do you prefer U.S. cuisine to U.K.
- 27:15Speaker 1: Cuisine? Because them fucking baked beans for breakfast in the U.K.
- 27:19Speaker 1: is just not my fucking thing. I used to hate
- 27:22Speaker 1: that shit.
- 27:23Speaker 4: Baked beans?
- 27:24Speaker 1: Baked beans and fucking ham calling it bacon. That is
- 27:27Speaker 1: not bacon. That's ham. That's not bacon.
- 27:29Speaker 2: What?
- 27:30Speaker 1: Or what else do you like?
- 27:32Speaker 3: They used to have a little thing.
- 27:33Speaker 4: British cuisine.
- 27:34Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like, You put like a little egg in
- 27:37Speaker 1: a cup and crack it open and like sticking bread
- 27:41Speaker 1: in that shit. I'm like, what the fuck is this?
- 27:43Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 27:44Speaker 4: It's funny. As a culture, definitely American cuisine. I mean,
- 27:54Speaker 4: I don't think British cuisine is a thing. And they
- 27:57Speaker 4: have like fish and chips.
- 27:59Speaker 3: That's the only thing that I feel like was good.
- 28:01Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I mean, food quality-wise, I prefer England. It's
- 28:07Speaker 4: kind of like New York. You have so many different
- 28:09Speaker 4: cultures in the city that you can just go and
- 28:11Speaker 4: eat at. So it's like, the food's depending on where
- 28:14Speaker 4: you go, but the quality, I thought it was better
- 28:17Speaker 4: for sure.
- 28:18Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure. All right, we took up
- 28:22Speaker 1: quite a bit of your time. Can you tell our
- 28:24Speaker 1: listeners where they can find you?
- 28:25Speaker 2: They know where we can find him at. He's everywhere
- 28:28Speaker 2: right now. He's super hot out here.
- 28:31Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean like his Instagram, his.
- 28:33Speaker 4: You can find me in the club, Byrus Phillips.
- 28:35Speaker 2: Yeah. I better not catch your ass hanging out with Future.
- 28:39Speaker 2: I'm telling you. If I catch you hanging out with Future,
- 28:41Speaker 2: I'm pulling my belt out.
- 28:42Speaker 1: That was a closed call the other day.
- 28:46Speaker 4: After Met Gala. That was a closed call.
- 28:50Speaker 2: Oh, how was that? You attended the Met Gala?
- 28:54Speaker 3: Really?
- 28:55Speaker 4: No, I didn't attend the Met Gala, but I performed
- 28:56Speaker 4: at the after party with St. John. Wow.
- 29:00Speaker 1: Oh, well, you had the one where Cardi B was like.
- 29:03Speaker 4: Nah, not that one.
- 29:03Speaker 2: What was that? Wait, what was that?
- 29:04Speaker 4: That's when I didn't go to you.
- 29:06Speaker 1: Turkey was like, have your little drink, have your little....
- 29:12Speaker 2: Oh, that's what happened at the after party.
- 29:13Speaker 1: That was wild.
- 29:15Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 29:17Speaker 1: But listen, yeah, don't get caught up with that Hollywood shit,
- 29:19Speaker 1: with that cocaine and stuff. It ain't safe out here.
- 29:22Speaker 1: It ain't safe out here.
- 29:22Speaker 4: I got my Azul and I'm set. Don't worry.
- 29:25Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
- 29:26Speaker 1: And water. Keep drinking your water. I'm going to keep
- 29:28Speaker 1: drinking this right here, though.
- 29:31Speaker 4: What's that?
- 29:34Speaker 1: This is Crown, actually. That's all I had in here.
- 29:37Speaker 1: I like to have a little sippy sip while I'm
- 29:38Speaker 1: doing my interview so I can... I can say crazy
- 29:41Speaker 1: shit to y'all.
- 29:46Speaker 2: Look, but we really appreciate you for pulling up on
- 29:48Speaker 2: We Talk Back, man.
- 29:51Speaker 4: My pleasure.
- 29:52Speaker 3: Listen, you have to come back when your album drops.
- 29:55Speaker 1: Come back and see us.
- 29:56Speaker 4: Yeah, after the summer vibes come out so we can assess.
- 30:00Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you'll have a sim series for us
- 30:02Speaker 1: by that time. You're going to have a story by
- 30:04Speaker 1: that time.
- 30:05Speaker 4: I am on my game. Absolutely not. I'm on my game. Okay.
- 30:10Speaker 4: You're going to see.
- 30:12Speaker 1: You're going to see because these girls out here in
- 30:15Speaker 1: the U.S.
- 30:16Speaker 2: He probably should tell us how he's played somebody because
- 30:18Speaker 2: that's what it sounds like to me.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably the better story.
- 30:23Speaker 4: What does that mean?
- 30:26Speaker 1: I'm innocent.
- 30:27Speaker 4: I'm innocent. I've been playing all day.
- 30:31Speaker 1: So you do play all day or you don't play?
- 30:34Speaker 4: I'm playing all day. I'm playing all day.
- 30:37Speaker 1: With women?
- 30:40Speaker 4: I'm playing all day. Everything's funny. Facts. I'm just assessing.
- 30:50Speaker 4: I'm assessing changes.
- 30:52Speaker 1: No, that's good.
- 30:53Speaker 3: You're in the space where you're supposed to be at 24, honestly.
- 30:55Speaker 4: Yep.
- 30:56Speaker 1: Just don't break no hearts out here.
- 30:58Speaker 3: Too bad.
- 30:58Speaker 2: Keep them regrets to a minimum. That's all you can do. Thanks.
- 31:03Speaker 4: Yeah. 100%. I'm gentle. I'm a good time.
- 31:07Speaker 3: You know what?
- 31:08Speaker 1: What I found about British men or men living in
- 31:11Speaker 1: the UK, they are smooth. They seem like they some
- 31:15Speaker 1: nice niggas, but they be just as ratchet as these
- 31:18Speaker 1: niggas in the UK and the US.
- 31:22Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the U.S., right.
- 31:24Speaker 1: They talk, it's the accent that make you think, oh,
- 31:26Speaker 1: he's so smart. He be saying shit like, it's brilliant.
- 31:29Speaker 2: Shit.
- 31:31Speaker 4: Shit, it's brilliant. I'm crying.
- 31:34Speaker 1: Isn't it? Isn't it?
- 31:35Speaker 4: I'm crying. No, that's funny.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Well, thank you for joining us today, man.
- 31:42Speaker 4: My pleasure.
- 31:43Speaker 1: Come back and see us, okay? 100%.
- 31:45Speaker 4: We'll see you soon. Take care.
- 31:46Speaker 1: Bye.