Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Andrew Molosky, President and CEO of Chapters Health System
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- 0:32Hello, and welcome to the Becker's Health Care
- 0:34podcast. My name is Chanel Banger. Today, I
- 0:36have the pleasure of speaking with Andrew Maloski,
- 0:39resident and chief executive officer of Chapters Health
- 0:41System, one of the country's premier community based
- 0:44health care delivery systems,
- 0:46who joins the podcast today to share insights
- 0:48in the health care trends he's keeping an
- 0:50eye on, advice for leaders, and a bit
- 0:52more. Andrew, thank you so much for joining
- 0:53me. Thank you for the opportunity to be
- 0:55here. Perfect. Well, to get us started out,
- 0:58could you give us a brief introduction and
- 1:00a peek into your background in health care
- 1:01for listeners who aren't acquainted with you yet?
- 1:04Certainly. Appreciate the chance, and I'll use the
- 1:06word peak, at its true intention. Just a
- 1:08little snippet. Right? So, Andrew Maloski,
- 1:12president and CEO of Chapters Health System,
- 1:14prior to that role. However, I've spent the
- 1:17bulk of my career in what you might
- 1:18call home and community based medicine settings, and
- 1:21that includes everything from home health to medical
- 1:24equipment to hospice and palliative medicine and primary
- 1:27care and multi specialty care and the whole
- 1:28kit and caboodle,
- 1:29but really always that emphasis on moving care
- 1:32to the community, moving care to the environment,
- 1:35that patients and families wish for and that
- 1:38payers
- 1:38and,
- 1:39accountable parties, seem to see the value in.
- 1:42So really been a dedicated focus to growing
- 1:44and building,
- 1:45entities and organizations, and and that's what I
- 1:47look forward to being able to share with
- 1:48you today.
- 1:50Perfect. Thank you so much for the introduction.
- 1:51And now getting into it a bit, can
- 1:53you talk about some trends that you're currently
- 1:55watching in either health care as a whole
- 1:56or palliative care or whichever direction you wanna
- 1:59take it?
- 2:00Yeah. Certainly. And so I think I'll speak
- 2:02to that kind of health care as a
- 2:04whole moniker
- 2:05because everything else is really a microcosm of
- 2:08the larger issues at play. Right? I think
- 2:10two fundamental principles
- 2:12independent of which sector or segment of health
- 2:15care you work in prevail.
- 2:16One, you know, the supply and demand curve.
- 2:18Our population is aging. Our population is showing,
- 2:22incredible signs of advancing illness. And, of course,
- 2:25our workforce is diminishing. Right? The the dollars
- 2:27are fixed. The need is great, and the
- 2:29supply,
- 2:30is substantially smaller than we wish it to
- 2:32be. And so that kind of environment
- 2:35fosters
- 2:36innovation. It fosters a chance to get into
- 2:38a quality over quantity approach, which is a
- 2:41hallmark of chapters
- 2:42and all of our leadership team. And it
- 2:44certainly drives an emphasis on taking great care
- 2:47of the staff and the human capital that
- 2:49you have access to, which again, as we
- 2:51talk, will be something you'll hear me speak
- 2:53to excessively. So, you know, on the macro
- 2:56trends, right, we know there are those components.
- 2:59There's definitely economic headwinds,
- 3:01at play right now, whether you consider that
- 3:03to be the MA environment
- 3:05or whether you consider that to be some
- 3:06of the changing policies within state and federal
- 3:09administrations.
- 3:10You've certainly got, you know, insurance subsidies that
- 3:13are at risk today. Medicaid is a hot
- 3:14topic. So no,
- 3:16no lack of stimuli for the problem solver,
- 3:19if you will.
- 3:21Definitely no shortage of headwinds and opportunities for
- 3:25sure.
- 3:25And going into 2026,
- 3:29what do you think you're most focused on
- 3:30and excited about?
- 3:32Yeah. You know, I I I get the
- 3:33luxury of answering this question the same way
- 3:36every time. Right? And I think that whether
- 3:38it's I believe it was Howard Schultz who
- 3:39gets the credit for saying, you know, the
- 3:41hallmark of a great CEO is to pick
- 3:43a few stances and defend them the imminently
- 3:46same things over and over and over until
- 3:47it's so obvious
- 3:48what you're going to say. So
- 3:50if I give credit to the wrong, leader,
- 3:52forgive me. Right? But it's a solid principle.
- 3:54And my answer is always the same.
- 3:57The mission statement in our organization is to
- 3:59be taking care of patients or taking care
- 4:00of those who do, so much so that
- 4:02it's actually trademarked. Right? And in that environment,
- 4:05our focus never waivers. It doesn't matter if
- 4:07it's a good day, a bad day, or
- 4:09somewhere in the middle. We show up ready
- 4:11to do one thing and one thing only,
- 4:12and that is is take optimal care of
- 4:14our entire team.
- 4:16Then when they are fully functioning and they
- 4:18are kind of on all cylinders,
- 4:20you know, that's when we see our patient
- 4:22care explode in a good way. That's when
- 4:24we see our finances follow suit. That's when
- 4:26we see the fuel for reinvention or re
- 4:28innovation
- 4:29come around. So we don't stray from that.
- 4:31In January, of course, after our holiday season
- 4:33is the beginning of a new year, fiscal
- 4:35and strategic. Everybody is refreshed, but everybody knows
- 4:38there's work to be done. And we really
- 4:40see it as an employee focused organization, you
- 4:42know, that month in a big way.
- 4:44Love to hear it. And looking back at
- 4:462025,
- 4:47can you talk about an initiative or project
- 4:49that either you or Chapters has accomplished in
- 4:52last year?
- 4:53Yeah. You know, our our mission is quite
- 4:55wide. If you spent any time studying our
- 4:57company, we're a portfolio organization of over 30
- 5:00different companies. Right? And so a lot of
- 5:02folks will talk about opening a note a
- 5:04new OR. They might have stood up a
- 5:06new clinic. And those are all wonderful initiatives.
- 5:08We're grateful for them. You know? But ours
- 5:10ours are widely varied. Right? From our consulting
- 5:13organization to our accountable care organizations to our
- 5:16MA plan. Everybody has had hallmarks and high
- 5:19watermarks, throughout the course of the year. But
- 5:21I think what I'd say as an entity
- 5:23is our largest success story is that we've
- 5:25been able to expand our mission to include
- 5:27the West Coast this year.
- 5:29Prior to this year, we had no West
- 5:30Coast presence, and now we're actively in California,
- 5:33Oregon, and Nevada.
- 5:34We've expanded service lines successfully to include
- 5:38far more of the risk based platforms, the
- 5:41upside downside capitation type platforms,
- 5:43you know, and the launch successful of our
- 5:45own Medicare Advantage Plan, with a focus on
- 5:48high needs and end of life is certainly,
- 5:50a hallmark for us. So it was a
- 5:51an eventful 2025,
- 5:53and, certainly, yeah, we hope the springboard to
- 5:55an even better 2026.
- 5:57That's amazing to hear. And I can tell
- 5:59that you're very passionate about what you do.
- 6:00And with that, I'm curious to know if
- 6:02you could give a few pieces of advice
- 6:04for emerging leaders looking to have the same
- 6:06drive and passion in their careers as you
- 6:08have.
- 6:09What would you say?
- 6:11I I love the platform that I can
- 6:13say this, but to anybody taking the time
- 6:15to listen to this, let me give a
- 6:16big disclaimer before my answer.
- 6:18A lot of these,
- 6:19if they have been successful for me, they
- 6:21have been successful for me because I wasn't
- 6:23afraid to admit where I went wrong or
- 6:25that it didn't go as planned. Right? Anything
- 6:28I'm about to say comes with all the
- 6:29humility and all the disclaimer I can offer
- 6:31on these positions. I believe in them. I've
- 6:34taken them, and I will stand by them,
- 6:35but they didn't come without a little pain
- 6:37or a little learning.
- 6:38So my first one, you know, to a
- 6:39true leader, there's a difference between a manager
- 6:41and a leader, and I always make sure
- 6:43people understand that. Managing is showing up, following
- 6:46a job description, and making sure the wheels
- 6:48don't come off the bus.
- 6:49Leading
- 6:50is empowering. Leading is developing. Leading is
- 6:53building
- 6:55a a a a momentum,
- 6:56a cohesion behind you of followers and and
- 6:59stakeholders.
- 7:00So a true leader should be innovative. A
- 7:02true leader should always say, great. It's done
- 7:04this way. If it's working, what can we
- 7:06do more and better in that spirit? If
- 7:08it's not working, how do we blow it
- 7:10up and learn from this?
- 7:11Right? Take a bold position. Don't be afraid
- 7:14of failure. In fact, don't even think of
- 7:16it as failure. Think of it as an
- 7:18incremental learning lesson. Obviously, you don't wanna repeat
- 7:20the same lessons over and over, but I've
- 7:23talked to so many managers who operated a
- 7:25fear and leaders who were fearless. Right?
- 7:28Didn't say naive. I didn't say, you know,
- 7:32poorly calculating,
- 7:33but I said fearless. And the ability to
- 7:35take a bold position and defend it in
- 7:37the face of politics,
- 7:38in the face of economic headwinds, in the
- 7:41face of, you know, increasing,
- 7:43regulatory environments,
- 7:44it's okay to be bold. Be ethical, be
- 7:46compliant, but take a position and defend it.
- 7:49That's how you lead, and that's how you
- 7:50build followership to truly accomplish things.
- 7:54Excellent advice. Well, Andrew, I wanna thank you
- 7:55for your time today. But before I let
- 7:57you go and while you have the ears
- 7:59of many health care leaders across the country,
- 8:01do you have anything else that, listeners should
- 8:03know? You know, I I always close this
- 8:05in a bit of a self serving manner,
- 8:07but I believe wholeheartedly in it. You know,
- 8:09we as Chapters
- 8:11realized a long time ago, you don't have
- 8:12to be everything to everyone.
- 8:14You have to be exceptional at what you
- 8:16choose to be involved in. But partners make
- 8:18for wonderful things. And whether that is joint
- 8:21ventures, whether that is just educational partners on
- 8:23the journey, whether that is trying to learn
- 8:26from our peers. One of the things that
- 8:27I like about Becker's and all the environments
- 8:29it supports is it wants best practices out
- 8:32there. So if you think the chapters can
- 8:34benefit you in some way, please reach out
- 8:36out to me. I'd love to know that
- 8:37that door is open in reciprocity. But, together,
- 8:40we can be better, and it's not always
- 8:41about necessarily having your name or your stamp
- 8:43on it exclusively. If we're to change the
- 8:45health care landscape,
- 8:47all of it would I say, many hands
- 8:48make light work. Right? So,
- 8:50look forward to meeting and talking to anybody
- 8:52who has heard this with interest, and my
- 8:53door is open to you.
- 8:55Absolutely. Well, Andrew, that's a great place to
- 8:58end on. I wanna thank you once again
- 9:00for your time today and for sharing your
- 9:01insights on the Pickers Healthcare podcast. Thank you
- 9:03so much. Thank you for the chance.