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Bummer Vikings Game, Bummer Beer, Bummer Wheel Spin | TSH Ep. 113 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of The School Hop. I'm Evan and I'm Austin. We're
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  Speaker 1: just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking
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  Speaker 1: beer and talking about the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. And it's because of the Vikings that
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  Speaker 2: we both had to spin the wheel of Purple punishments,
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  Speaker 2: which was awful.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a little bit of a sticky situation.
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  Speaker 1: We'll just leave it at that for now. But we
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  Speaker 1: also had an appropriately named beer in light of the
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  Speaker 1: Vikings loss.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, and we spent a good amount of time hashing
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  Speaker 2: out that awful Vikings loss to the Ravens, which was
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  Speaker 2: just a really frustrating game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but with a little bit of optimism, we looked
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  Speaker 1: ahead to the Vikings hosting the Bears this next week.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully that turns out better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we might have fun on the show forest
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  Speaker 2: on next week. Stay tuned for that one, but until then,
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll just get to it. Last week,
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  Speaker 2: we uh, we had the preseason prediction that the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: would beat the Ravens, and of course the Vikings lost
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  Speaker 2: to the Ravens. Yes, they did technically a one score game,
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  Speaker 2: technically eight points.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get into that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have some thoughts. But because of that
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  Speaker 2: we have we both have to spin the wheel.
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  Speaker 1: So I think we just get it over with. All right,
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  Speaker 1: you're ready, I'm ready? Okay, here we go. We will
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  Speaker 1: be How are we going.
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  Speaker 3: To do this?
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know what this one really is?
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  Speaker 3: So this one is we decided.
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  Speaker 2: It's called fumble Rooskie.
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  Speaker 3: We had to have hands on a football the whole time.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have an I have another football? All right?
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, could we could I do have
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  Speaker 2: the the youth football with the Vikings logo on it. Dude,
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  Speaker 2: you need to put some more air in this thing.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's been sitting here for like well since we
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  Speaker 1: started this thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's so pretty much dusty. Yeah all right, so we
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  Speaker 2: got to keep our hands on a football the entire episode.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, do we want to tape it?
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  Speaker 2: Do we think we should?
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  Speaker 3: I went I could tape it to one hand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I would. I'd be down for that.
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  Speaker 3: I think I just looked.
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  Speaker 1: At the tape and I remembered that was the original intent.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, I'm gonna need you to help me here.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, all right, we're gonna tape football's. I'll love the
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  Speaker 2: Edward forty hands. You got it there? You got enough nails? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Evan and I are both notorious fingernails.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold it with my left hand because I'll
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  Speaker 1: need my right hand for other things.
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  Speaker 2: Is that that okay? Yep?
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  Speaker 3: Just wrap it up real good.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you don't have too much knuckle hair there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not gonna feel great taking this off. We're
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  Speaker 1: also gonna have to pour our beers one hand, and
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  Speaker 1: that'll be fun.
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  Speaker 3: We've done that before though.
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  Speaker 2: All right, that's a few I've probably wrapped around.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's good enough. I have no idea how
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this to you. Now, we've already got
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  Speaker 1: it started here, So all right, I'll.
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  Speaker 3: Get it started and then i'll come down on around.
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  Speaker 3: Can you hold it on your hand?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: There we go? There we go.
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  Speaker 3: Is that too tight?
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  Speaker 2: No? We're good. We're good. I didn't even ask you.
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  Speaker 2: Did I do it too tight for you?
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's tight, but it's not like cutting
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  Speaker 1: off my circulation.
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  Speaker 2: All right, what do you think is that?
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  Speaker 1: Let me to rip it.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so if you're watching, you can see us.
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  Speaker 3: We both went with our with our left hands.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the football is like dented because it's lacking air pressure.
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  Speaker 2: Is all right? Well this is an interesting one. We
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  Speaker 2: will have to probably mention it a few times. Why
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  Speaker 2: why our hands are taped up in case people join
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  Speaker 2: at different times? But uh yeah, this is a more
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  Speaker 2: interesting one. Uh school, we should scull it out, all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Well, let's get to the beer. I picked this beer.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen this on the shelf a few times, and
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  Speaker 1: I picked it because I thought the title was appropriate. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's called Bummer City, and I felt like bummer
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  Speaker 1: City really just encapsulates how we're feeling about the Vikings
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  Speaker 1: right now. I mean, maybe it's not like we're completely,
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  Speaker 1: you know, giving up on this team.
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  Speaker 2: We'll we'll we'll talk our thoughts on that.
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  Speaker 1: But but the game against the Ravens was what's a
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  Speaker 1: bummer acab bummer?
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  Speaker 2: So so yeah, this is actual I'm not sure who
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  Speaker 2: really makes this. It's got collaboration, it's got five Cities
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  Speaker 2: logo on it says bruden canned at back Pocket brewerying
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  Speaker 2: in Corrville, Iowa. Which fun fact, back Pocket is now
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  Speaker 2: a part of Single Speed. Oh yeah, So there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of layers to this.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of movement happening right now in Iowa
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  Speaker 1: breweries because like seven Hills is taking over dimension not
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  Speaker 1: dimensional or no, its dimensional taking over which one?
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  Speaker 2: There's seven Hills has I believe purchased a Great Revival
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  Speaker 2: what it is, which if you're a skull hot viewer
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  Speaker 2: of long time here, we visited the Great Revivalist Brewery
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  Speaker 2: in Clinton, Iowa.
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  Speaker 3: Clinton, right, yeah, yeah, Clinton. It's in an old church.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, where they refabbed an old church there. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but that that's that's another brewery, this one bummer city
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  Speaker 2: from collabed with five cities and potentially back Pocket. I've
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  Speaker 2: had this one before you at least once. And I've
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  Speaker 2: been to one of the places that serves us on tap,
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  Speaker 2: which there's probably a few, but one of the main
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  Speaker 2: ones Devin's Complaint Department now yep in Tavenport, Iowa.
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  Speaker 1: H Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: From what I remember, it's a really good just regular
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  Speaker 2: light lagger.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, four point pretty easy drinking and appropriately named.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready to go, I.
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  Speaker 3: Have to like crossover. Yeah, that's good. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: To me, it's a it's a higher much higher quality
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  Speaker 2: bud light, you know, just a really really solid light lagger,
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  Speaker 2: you know, really good color, good head retention for a
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  Speaker 2: light lagger four two. So you could probably throw back
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  Speaker 2: a couple thirteen, fourteen of those and wake up with
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  Speaker 2: a slight headache the next day, but not be doing
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  Speaker 2: too bad.
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  Speaker 3: So we're not gonna drink that many tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe just ten or twelve. It's a good beer, though,
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  Speaker 1: I like it. Let's talk about this game. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: will be honest. I didn't really get to watch much
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  Speaker 1: of it. It's been frustrating in this little, you know,
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  Speaker 1: far eastern slice of Iowa. They haven't broadcast too many
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  Speaker 1: Vikings games, and that happens a lot where like we're
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  Speaker 1: just on the edge of Packers and Bears markets, and
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  Speaker 1: so they opt to show those games over the Vikings games.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't have an NFL Sunday ticket subscription like
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  Speaker 1: you do, so I don't have access to those.
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  Speaker 3: When you were gone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would have called you, and I was like, well, no,
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  Speaker 1: he's probably not home. Maybe I should have just broken
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  Speaker 1: into your house.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean my mother in law was there with
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  Speaker 2: the kids, so yeah, I was gone. I was on
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: an airplane, and luckily the smallest of silver linings. With
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  Speaker 2: all the recent air traffic delays and everything, pretty much
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  Speaker 2: meant that I was sitting on a tarmac for I
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  Speaker 2: should have taken off and missed the entire fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 2: But I was sitting on the tarmac for the whole
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter, so I got to see most of it,
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  Speaker 2: and I can say the vikings made it exciting a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. Towards the end of the fourth quarter or
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  Speaker 2: towards the end of the game.
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  Speaker 3: Were you like kicking the seat of the guy in
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  Speaker 3: front of you?
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, well, funny enough the guy in front of
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  Speaker 2: me for that part of the journey there was front
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  Speaker 2: of the show forest. But no, I wasn't kicked a seat,
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: but I was very frustrated. I did get to see
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  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy throw his only touchdown of the game to
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Naylor.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, that was nice.
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  Speaker 2: I also saw the failed two point conversion, which you
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  Speaker 2: mentioned before we started recording. Didn't really make sense for
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  Speaker 2: them to attempt the two pointer, but yeah, I did
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  Speaker 2: get to see a lot of it. And it was
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  Speaker 2: still really frustrating, a lot of penalties, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: interesting play calling, decision making, and we'll hash all that
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  Speaker 2: out there. But you're right, this area we're notorious for
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  Speaker 2: being like the last county that doesn't get the Vikings game.
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  Speaker 1: Traditionally, any farther west you get from where we live,
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  Speaker 1: you're probably going to get the Vikings game. But right
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  Speaker 1: where we are, it's going to be Packers and Bears
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  Speaker 1: before it's Vikings, unless the Packers and Bears are either.
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  Speaker 3: On a buy or playing like one of the prime
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  Speaker 3: time game.
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  Speaker 1: But so, anyways, all had to say, I didn't get
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  Speaker 1: to see it all happen live, so like the progression
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  Speaker 1: of everything and kind of how everything built up to
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  Speaker 1: all of the stuff that ended up happening. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: little murky on the details, but I know the big stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I followed it enough to really understand, Like I did
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  Speaker 1: get to see, there's that one play that turned out
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  Speaker 1: to work out pretty well. JJ McCarthy flipped it over
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  Speaker 1: to Jefferson, who then threw it back to JJ, and
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  Speaker 1: JJ ran for I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they needed about ten yards and JJ got eight
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  Speaker 2: or nine right right right. That was on a third down,
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  Speaker 2: so they punted it away right after that, so it.
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  Speaker 3: Was cool though. It was a cool play anyways.
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  Speaker 2: And that was about the extent of Justin Jefferson's highlights
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  Speaker 2: during the game. Before we get too deep, let's just
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  Speaker 2: let's let's dive into roses and thorns here, ev let's
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  Speaker 2: what's what's your rose from this game?
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  Speaker 1: I thought the defense looked sharp at the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the game, especially in the first half, first and second quarter.
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  Speaker 1: They held the Ravens to four field goals, and I
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  Speaker 1: was playing against Lamar Jackson in fantasy football, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: just like wow at halftime, thinking to myself, Wow, they
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  Speaker 1: held him to be pretty ineffective. I mean, their offense
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  Speaker 1: couldn't get much going and when they did, they couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get close enough to score. So to hold him to
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  Speaker 1: field goals, I thought was really really good. And I
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  Speaker 1: think it just proves that this defense is still kind
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  Speaker 1: of the heart and soul of this team, and the
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: offense is still continuing to figure out its identity, especially
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  Speaker 1: with this kind of back and forth quarterback situation that
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: we've had and the offensive line woes that they've had.
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  Speaker 1: So no, I liked the defense. I would give a
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  Speaker 1: rose to the defense.
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  Speaker 2: Just statistically, the Vikings defense gave up one passing touchdown
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  Speaker 2: to Mark Andrews and one rushing touchdown to Justice Hill,
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  Speaker 2: which was a one yard rush, And as far as scoring,
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  Speaker 2: the only other scores were field goals. Four field goals,
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  Speaker 2: so I mean two touchdowns to Lamar Jackson Derrick Henry.
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  Speaker 2: That offense, who they're healthy, now, I think they're relatively healthy.
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  Speaker 3: They had zero players on their injury report.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah that's true. Yeah they're notoriously healthy. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you can't be too mad about the Vikings defense giving
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  Speaker 2: up only twenty seven points to that offense, especially when
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  Speaker 2: you consider the Ravens multiple times had very short fields.
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  Speaker 2: One time right at the second half, the Viking I
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  Speaker 2: think it was the one of the mid game kick returns,
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  Speaker 2: Miles Price fumbled the ball and handed the Ravens offense
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  Speaker 2: the ball right back. So you can't be too too
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  Speaker 2: mad about the Vikings defense. So yeah, I agree, that's
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  Speaker 2: a good rose. What about yours is that even after
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  Speaker 2: the ups and downs and frustrations of the game, they
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  Speaker 2: still were technically in the game until the very end.
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  Speaker 2: There was even a point, you know, in the third
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  Speaker 2: quarter where it's like, you might as well just turn
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  Speaker 2: it off now because this game is over. But after that,
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings still gave themselves a chance and they were
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  Speaker 2: still fighting and it wasn't It would have been a
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  Speaker 2: really good comeback, but not a Minneapolis miracle, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like it would have been one that we remembered for
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  Speaker 2: a while if they came back and tied it at
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  Speaker 2: the end. But still they put themselves in in the
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  Speaker 2: ability to be able to make it a competitive game. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: there were a lot of mishaps that happened, and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of them were self inflicted. No, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: be the guy that's like, oh, the Vikings lost and
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: they beat themselves, like the Ravens are a good team too,
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  Speaker 2: Like they they did well where they were supposed to
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  Speaker 2: and the Ravens legitimately won that game. But the Vikings
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: didn't make it easy on themselves with the penalties and
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  Speaker 2: the turnovers. And there's definitely coaching decisions.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely merit to the penalties the turnovers, right, Like, yep,
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  Speaker 1: you can't beat yourself in that way and then expect
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  Speaker 1: to win, yep.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, my rose is that they still had a
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  Speaker 2: chance down to the bitter end. And I guess while
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking it, my thorn is all of those penalties
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  Speaker 2: and turnovers and the batted down passes at the line I.
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  Speaker 3: Think passes multiple times.
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  Speaker 1: And I saw a video today and I think KOs
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  Speaker 1: addressed this in his press conference that Jordan Addison was
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  Speaker 1: like wide open on a couple of those and those
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  Speaker 1: would have been like huge chunk plays, maybe even potentially
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  Speaker 1: scoring plays yep, had they not been batted down. So
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  Speaker 1: I mean the defensive line for the Ravens was playing
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  Speaker 1: really well.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and we've seen it now a few games
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  Speaker 2: of Justin Jefferson or JJ career. Some they figured out something.
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  Speaker 2: He has had many batted down passes right at the
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  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. There is one where I couldn't believe
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  Speaker 2: in this game against the Ravens. I couldn't believe he
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  Speaker 2: tried to throw the ball because the defender was very
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: clearly like right in his face, arms up, like he
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  Speaker 2: would have had to have the most insane trick play
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  Speaker 2: to go through a defender's arms not hit his helmet.
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  Speaker 3: Like.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's one of those where we
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  Speaker 2: have an issue here or it's just there's been enough
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  Speaker 2: fluke things that have happened all in a row that
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: will stop talking about and see less and less here.
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  Speaker 2: But so far in JJ's career when he's been on
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: the field, batted down passes has been an issue. And
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  Speaker 2: I that can ruin a game. That's an instant, incomplete
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  Speaker 2: pass no matter what the defense is doing, where the
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: defenders in the backfield are doing.
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  Speaker 3: And could be a turnover.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it could turn into a reception, it could
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  Speaker 1: be tipped and someone else catches it, or sometimes like
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: we saw Intervene Gink will take two of those back
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  Speaker 1: to the house last season as a Viking. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I definitely agree with you. Turnovers, penalties, those batted down
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  Speaker 1: passes at the line, those made the game really tough
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  Speaker 1: to watch, right, We've already mentioned this. Actually, I think
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: this is gonna end up being a thorn. I think
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  Speaker 1: the longer this is on, the worse this punishment gets.
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  Speaker 2: My hand's starting to hurt a little bit.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think so if you're just listening, we
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  Speaker 1: taped footballs to our hands.
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  Speaker 3: That's our punishment for today.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Ruski was the name of this punishment.
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  Speaker 1: And I think in addition to just like my hand
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: being stuck in like a claw.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Like fashion for a week.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna get a rash from the adhesive on
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: this tape like painter's tape or I don't even know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: it's like vinyl age tape, like vinyl tape.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's very similar to kind of electrical.
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  Speaker 3: Electrical, but it's red. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: That's a thorn in and of itself. But in addition
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  Speaker 1: to that, I think my thorn is kind of a
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  Speaker 1: combination of the really strange demeanor of Justin Jefferson as
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: well as KOC and I just wonder if both of
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: them are okay, right, Like you kind of almost wonder
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: like do they just need a hug? Right, Like do
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: you just need to track them down in the tunnels
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: of US Bank stadiums can bring it in, man, It's
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: all right, yeah, it's okay, right, Like Justin Jefferson did
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: not look like himself at all. There was that one
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: interception that JJ McCarthy threw that I don't think should
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: be credited to him, because Justin Jefferson tripped on the
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: foot of the defender, fell over and tumbled and the
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: defender had an easy interception, and then Justin Jefferson got
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: up and they kind of played this little cat mouse
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: game and Jefferson made no effort to track him down
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: and make the tackle to end the play, and the
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: guy ended up getting.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Marlin Humphrey. He got like twenty something
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: yards of interception return yards there from that.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: So that was and I think a lot of people
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: are talking about that today, like, oh, he wants out,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: he's you know, he's ready to be done in Minnesota,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: he's frustrated, he's whatever. And I don't think we're not
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: going to go to those extremes on this podcast.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not right now. I mean other stream together five six,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: seven of these kinds of games, then maybe it's like, dude,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: what are we doing.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: But even even in his postgame presser, he was very professional.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: He was Jefferson, Yeah, justin Jefferson, very professional, very accountable, right, like, yeah,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: there's no excuse, And he didn't pin the blame on
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: He didn't say I think he did make some comment
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: about like how the balls weren't finding his hands.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think it's just a phrase that.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think that was like I think some people
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: are definitely leaning into that saying, Oh, he's he's really
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: you know, he hates JJ McCarthy. He wants to get
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: you know, released or traded like the trade deadlines over. Yeah,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: he wants to you know, demand a trade in the
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: off season.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Blah blah blah whatever.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: This is seven days after the Vikings beat one of
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: the contenders of the NFC and definitely probably the best
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: team in the NFC North, the Lions. I mean, everybody's
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: allowed to have an off day. Justin Jefferson almost never
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: has had an off day on the field, for sure,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: And if he has an off day, it's not because
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: of his off day, it's because he's been double and
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: triple teams. Yeah, to the point where they can't even
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: throw the ball in his direction. And one of his
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: teammates then consequently has a huge day.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which kind of happened. Jalen Naylor.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Jalen Naylor had a great day, his best pro day.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: He's never had as many receiving yards as he did
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty four. I think Dustin Baker I
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: was reading one of his articles. Dustin Baker said Naylor's
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: previous high in a game is like eighty three or
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: eighty eight yards and that was in like garbage time
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: against the Packers a couple of years ago, when the
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Packers were blowing the Vikings out. But yeah, I think
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: everybody's allowed to have an off day, justin Jefferson is
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: human two. And he didn't even come out like you said.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: He didn't even come out and say, yeah, I hate this.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I really wish JJ would have thrown a better ball,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Like he made that one phrase where he said, yeah,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: the balls just weren't fine in my hand. That's kind
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: of like a golfer saying, yeah, the ball just wasn't
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: hitting the it wasn't dropping in the hole, like right.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I don't think that was I really don't think that
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: comment because I heard him say it too, and I
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: saw I heard the question, and I saw justin Jefferson's
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: like tone and you know, body language and tone of voice,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: it didn't sound like he was saying like, yeah, quarterback
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: didn't hit me the right way, you know, like he
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: wasn't saying that.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I was just like yeah, yeah, And it did not
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: seem to me like he was making a dig at
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. It just seemed like he I think he
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: was kind of at a loss too, Like I it's
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: that that's just kind of the way the game played out, right,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: And he also owned it, like we've got to get
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: better and we've got to work on those things. And
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I think he made a comment about, like, you know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: make it so that it's automatic on Sunday, like we
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: gotta go we gotta gotta go back and grind in
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: practice this week and that way when we show up
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: next Sunday, it's just it clicks, it's automatic, right, and
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: it it takes time, right, the chemistry between a quarterback
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and a wide receiver takes time. And Justin Jefferson is
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: pretty much always other than when somebody's been hurt, been
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: the beneficiary of pretty talented quarterback play.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like not.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Talented or lightning in a bottle, real quick quarterback play.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean like not MVP level quarterback play,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: but like Kirk Cousins really good and was able to
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: put the ball where Justin Jefferson could go get it,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and that that elevated I think Justin Jeffer since career
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: to have Kirk Cousins throwing the ball to him in
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the early part of his career, and yeah, lightning in
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: a bottle right, the.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Nick Mullins the pastronaut.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: But then Sam Donald last year.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: But Sam Donald isn't lightning in a bottle. Sam Donald
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: is proving this year that he's an MVP caliber quarterback.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: And it probably he only scored me four points in
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: fantasy football, which I don't know how that happens. When
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: your team scored forty four points and you're up thirty
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: five to seven at halftime, that's insane. I don't know
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: how that happens. He did throw an interception, but he
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: only scored four points.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Was it a running day? I guess I didn't pay
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: attention to their game there.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't really watch that game either. I was just
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: following his scord. But I digress. Justin Jefferson has always
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: been the beneficiary of pretty solid quarterback play, and so
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: right now we're seeing Justin Jefferson with I was still
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: called JJ McCarthy a rookie quarterback. He's a red shirt essential.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: He's a red shirt rookie quarterback. He's going through his
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: experience goes. He's going through things as though he were
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: a rookie, and Justin Jefferson's never had a deal with that,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: so he's he's having to figure stuff out, just like
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy is, and I'm confident that they'll get it
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: figured out. My other thorn, though, is the play calling.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: And I mentioned one thing that I'm gonna just recap
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and rehash really quick. You alluded to it already, but
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: you said there was something more egregious in the play
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: calling that you wanted to talk about. So I'm interested
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: to hear what you have to say. But you said that, right.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's just the lack of leaning on
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the running game.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: When when they did rush the ball, for the most part,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: it went really well for them. Aaron Jones had nine
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: rushes for forty seven yards. It's five point two average.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: He had what I think the only rushing touchdown. Jordan
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Mason not as electric, but four rushes for twenty five
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: yards actually a higher average six point three. And JJ
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: McCarthy he did have like a twenty six yard rush
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: in the final game ending drive when they were trying
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: to score a touchdown with no timeouts left, which kind
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: of skewed his rushing totals. But he did lead the
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: team five carries for forty eight yards. But when so,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: if you take out that twenty six yard rush, it's
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: still ninety what was it, ninety four rushing yards outside
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: of that twenty six yard rush on seventeen carries and
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: a touchdown. So like the rushing game, there were at
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: least statistically opportunities, but Kevin O'Connell refused to go there. Now, granted,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: there were also many times where the uh, the play
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: would be, you know, second and five and then fallse
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: start yep. Now it's instant second and ten, and if
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: you did have a rush call play and planned, maybe
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: that ten yards changes your play call a little bit.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: And there were eight false starts. I think Brian O'Neal
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: had three of them. And he's one of the better
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: right tackles in the league. He's a veteran dude. You
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have false starts. He shouldn't have any false starts
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: at bad. I think I didn't see the quote, but
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I think somebody said I think it might have even
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: been an Aaron Jones said something to the tune of
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: maybe the Ravens were like trying to quietly, you know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: say hut, you know, like trying to quietly yell out,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: which again, if they had done that would be a penalty.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Everything I've seen from the Vikings coaches and even the
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Ravens like that that probably wasn't actually happening. I don't
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: think that was really happening. Referees usually call that pretty quick,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: but I mean that goes hand in hand. The rushing
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: game goes hand in hand with the penalties. But it
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: does seem weird. Kevin O'Connell does seem to be not
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: playing playing his best game as a coach, not calling
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: the correct plays or the things that should be working
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: when they should be calling those things. So his play
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: calling is a little suspect lately.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that is only exemplified in and
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: just kind of it all culminated in that late game
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: decision to go for two when they were down thirteen
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: to twenty seven. They were down two touchdowns, fourteen points,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and I think you had said when I was recapping
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: this before we started recording, that when you're down fifteen,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: you go for two in that situation, But if you're
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: down fourteen, I think you go for one, get yourself
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: within seven points and give yourself an opportunity to at
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the very least tie the game right, and then you
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: play for overtime and then you you know, you see
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: what happens and hopefully maybe you get to make the decision.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: And overtime, you know, if you're going to get the
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: ball or not. You can put the ball in the
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: hands of your offense if that's what you want, or
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: you can rely on your defense to go out and
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: get a stop if that's right. There's a whole bunch
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: of scenarios that could play out that way. But when
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: he went for one in that or when he went
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: for two in that moment, I just thought to myself, like,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: what are you doing?
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: And I was.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Confirmed by some people on Twitter and some people that
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I think we would trust that they're like, no, you
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: don't go for two in that situation. You go for one,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: and you give yourself an opportunity to tie it and
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: play for overtime.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah. And when you mentioned that earlier,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I kind of went back to there were more. That
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: was one of the egregious decisions. But for me personally,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: there were more egregious decisions throughout the game that would
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: have made that, you know, going for two not even
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: a thing you think about.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Well, let's let's not forget that that two point conversion
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: play was a passing play, and a two point conversion
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: is basically a fourth and goal situation.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Right it's a do or die. You have to go
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: two yards.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: And when the Vikings had to go two yards to
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: convert anything all day, what play did they opt for?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: A passing play? And that also doesn't make sense. Like
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: you've got teams across the league, like the Lions and
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the Eagles who are pushing their way to first downs
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: on fourth and one, fourth and one and a half,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I think even sometimes fourth and two, like they're going
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: for it and they're successful because they know that they
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: can bully their way across the line again and get
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the first down. And you're right, Kevin O'Connell is scared
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: to run the ball right now.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: It just seems like it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: And it's frustrating because you have two running backs. Aaron
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Jones is back and healthy and scoring and being productive.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Jordan Mason he's been like oddly quiet at the last
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: couple of games since Aaron Jones came back, which I
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: also think is problematic because we brought him to Minnesota
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: to be this tandem, you know, Sonic and Knuckles type
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: of thing like they have in Detroit, right Like, that's
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: why he was brought to Minnesota was to do all that.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's a struggle right now, and
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I hope KOs can get it figured out. I hope
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the offense can get it figured out, because I think
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: if the offense really gets it locked in and figured out,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: the defense is fine. I'm not worried about the defense
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: at all. And this can be a very good team.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if they figure that.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Out, absolutely, And if you think if you broaden out,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: you know, just look at the big picture of this
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Vikings Ravens game twenty seven to nineteen. Ravens won, but
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: the Vikings defense didn't look awful. If the offense had
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: just succeeded two, three, four more times in pivotal points
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: of that game, one, maybe they score points. Two maybe
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: the Ravens have less opportunities to score points. So, like,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I don't think in this game, it didn't feel like
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: even with all the penalties, even with the play calling
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: questions and the up and down play from your young
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: not rookie but inexperienced quarterback, even with all of that,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: to go back to my rose, that they still had
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: a chance at the end. It didn't seem like they
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: were on an entirely different playing field than the Ravens.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: We've seen games for the Vikings, you know specifically where
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: you know, throughout our Vikings fanhood where it's like, man,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: this is devastating because it feels like the Vikings aren't
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: even on the same level as the other team. Like
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: we've seen it. I mean, we saw it against the Chargers.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, the Vikings don't even seem like they
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: have the same caliber of coaches, players, like it seems
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: like they're light years behind this player. We've seen those
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: games throughout the years. This didn't feel like one of
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: those games. It felt like if this, you know, if
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: this same game happened ten times in a row, it
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: would probably be if not, you know, fifty to fifty,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe one team would win six or seven times,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: rather than a consistent blowout every time. It felt like
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: the Vikings very much had a chance in this game
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: and you know, could have, should have would a you
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: can never take away the penalties. You can never take
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: away the turnovers, the kickoff fumbles which he fumbled twice
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: in a row Miles Price did, which is crazy because
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: outside of that, he see I just mentioned it last week.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Files price doesn't give you that feeling in the pit
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: of your stomach. Oh he's gonna fumble. I literally said
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: that last week.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Well he's he's now officially earned that title. Yeah, he's
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: got the oh crap, oh crap, oh crap title.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: The butterfingers. But like, you can't take all that away.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: But it's just those few things that turn this into
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: an eight point loss. For the Vikings, you tighten those up,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: you tweak it. This game, this loss doesn't make give
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: me the feeling that, hey, this season is over. You
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: might get that if you look at the schedule and
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: your record, but as far as play on the field,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: this didn't feel like a team that was totally lost
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: all game. Some plays not all game.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Who gets your game ball?
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Not the ones taped to our hands, but the proverbial
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: game ball. Who played the best in your opinion?
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think I took the easy one you did,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: But that's all right.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody had.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: To to give you listeners a peek behind the scenes.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: More often than not, I kind of put together the outline,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: and then as I'm putting it together, I'm the first
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: one that gets to answer these questions about game balls
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: and roses and thorns, but my game ball. I mean,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: in a loss, you got to look for who performed
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: the best, and I think Jalen Naylor one hundred and
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: twenty four yards. How many catches do you have? Five catches,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: not sure how many targets? Six targets and a touchdown
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: de facto game ball winner right there. That's his best
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: game as a pro. Unfortunately it happened in a loss.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm giving mind to Blake Cashman, and he led
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: the team in tackles and it was his third straight
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: game with ten plus tackles.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and he's out.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I think that I think he's like second in the
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: league right now in like that streak of.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Excuse me, ten ten plus tackle games.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's at the top of
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: the league or near the top of the league with
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: the most games stacked on top of each other. So
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: obviously that's not just one game, it's multiple games. But
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: since he's been back from injury, right, this defense has
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: really come into form. Oh yeah, right, Like and we've
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: noticed that when he's on the field, this defense looks different.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: It was, you know, i'van paced junior trying to call
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: the plays, and he looked lost and the defense got
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: bulldozed by like the falcon in the second game of
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the season with him not on the field.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: This cashman not on.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: The field, and Van Ginkle was out too, and.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Van Ginkle as well. So to get him back is huge.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: And to see these three straight games with ten plus
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: tackles is big, and that connects to my rose right.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: The defense looks sharp at the start, and I think
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: he's largely to credit for that, So he gets my
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: game ball.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think both of those. You can only point
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: out so many good performances and a loss, but yeah,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: both of those are definitely deserving. For a minute, I
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: thought about Will Rekord as well. He just keeps being consistent,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Will the threat. He did get two, he converted two
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: field goals forty nine yard long and then an extra
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: point on that one touchdown. He's just continuing to be automatic.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: And some Vikings fans would say that this year he's
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: perfect if you take away the obstructions that hit his
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: ball when he kicked it, which ye whether or not
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: you believe it or believe it or not, if he
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: actually hit the wire, if the wire hit his kick.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: But yeah, only two missed kicks for him this year
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: at all. And I thought they were gonna jinx him
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: on the broadcast after it was for one of his kicks.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think it was after the extra point, but
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I think they mentioned it on the broadcast after his
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: first field goal attempt that he was perfect on extra
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: points in his career. I was like, god, they said that.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, well, you just jinxed it. He's
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: gonna miss one today.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: It's like the proverbial Jim Nance kicks the chair over
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it still held true. As of right now
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: as a pro will record has never missed an extra point,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: and it's been this is a third season, second season.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a rookie last year.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: You might be right. Let's let's just double check, just
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: because we don't have Devin across the way there as
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: a stat guy. Here we go, oh, you're right, this
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: is his second year. Yeah, I bow to your king
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: or your Vikings knowledge there. But he's still perfect on
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: extra points.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: So well yeah, and it's it's awesome to have a
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: really reliable kicker like that, especially after the last you know,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know, decade or so of Vikings kickers where
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: it's just been you know, they're great in you know,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: these meaningless games, and then you get them in these
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: high pressure situations and they they can't make a kick.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about one more thing, maybe two
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: more things before we move to the next segment.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: That roughing the.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Passer call on Dallas on Dallas Turner, your thoughts on that,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: because Uh, I saw a clip of Michael Strahan Not
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Michael Strahan, who's the who's.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: The Michael straight? Okay?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know why I second guessed
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: myself for a second there Straighthan on one of the
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: He's not he's with Fox. I think he was pretty
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: critical of the officials in that moment. And just you know,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: he was a former defensive player. I think doesn't he
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: hold the record for sacks in a season or ties
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: tied the record for saxon the season he broke.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Uh that's the famous uh far fell down for him?
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Anyways, so he knows what he's talking about, I guess,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: is the point I'm trying to make as really quick.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Jared Allen tied him. I think they Okay,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: maybe that's the record, but he broke it to begin with.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Sorry anyways, No, that's that's worth pointing out. I mean,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Viking Jared Allen has a tie for
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: the record of sason a season. Anyways, h Dallas Turner
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: got to the backfield, got to Lamar Jackson. And I
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: watched that play because it was on Game Day Live
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: as I was at my parents' house and we were
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: just kind of hanging out relaxing, and that play came up.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: All cool, yeah, that and my dad was.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Like, well, why is that a penalty? And I'm like,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: because he put his body weight into the quarterback and
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: you can't do that. And my dad was kind of confused,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: but that doesn't make any sense, Like that's a sack,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: and five years ago that would have been a legal hit.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, the league has changed quite a
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: bit and they're really trying to protect the quarterback. But
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Michael Strahan kind of just said, like, at some point,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks play football too, yeah, and we have to allow
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: them to take hits just like all the other players do. Like,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna let a running back get tackled like that,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: then you need to let a quarterback probably get tackled
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: like that too. And he also made the point that
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: a guy like Dallas Turner is going to injure himself
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: avoiding putting his full body weight into the quarterback on
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: a play like that, and then you know, your defense
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: crumbles and offense is obviously king in the NFL and
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: it has been for while. You're probably not going to
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: have a non quarterback MVP for a very long time.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have to be an Adrian Peterson Peterson
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: type season, which we kind of had last year was
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Saquon and he still didn't win it, and he still.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Didn't win it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: So uh but again, in this offense heavy league, I
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: don't know that there there should be this like hedge
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: of protection around the quarterbacks. And I think because quarterbacks
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: have been hit pretty hard this year, there's been some
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: interesting quarterback injury.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we could go down the.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Wa turn style of you know, like Tua this year
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: has dealt with more concussions. He had to sit out
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: for a couple of games.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: That's effected Mar Jackson for the ravens.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, J J. McCarthy for the Vikings.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, large quarterbacks have missed time.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, wentz Joe Burrow.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Yep, we go down the list. It's crazy, But I'm
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: still a proponent of of this is football, right, this
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: is a physical contact sport, and it is it's kind
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: of the ultimate like in today's day and age, the
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: ultimate like warrior sport, like you have to be a warrior.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: You have to go out there and regardless of what happens,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: And play the game.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: And so I'm not a fan of this sissy.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Ball call of oh well he got you know, he
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: got one guy laid on top of him.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: For a little too long or put too much of
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: his body weight on him. So that was a penalty.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: And of course we're biased, we're Vikings fans. It was
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: a penalty that hurt our team. But I don't know
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: any sensible Ravens fan I think would say, yeah's it's so.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: So I have a few thoughts on that, on that place,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: specifically one textbook, if you watch it, by the rule
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: the way it's written now and the way that that
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: play played out, and how Dallas Turner did it. It's
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: a penalty technically, yes, ye, one hundred percent, it's a penalty.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: He wrapped him up and you could say drove him.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: It wasn't egregious, no, but but it was him full
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: body weight, both of them going to the ground. Dallas
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Turner was on him one hundred percent and didn't in
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: the act of you know, sacking him, try to like
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: roll off. So and it's thousand percent. It was the
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: way it's written of penalty.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: His youth and inexperience. I think that really contributed to that.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I think if it's a Van Ginkle or a Cashman
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: or a Jonathan Gernard Hargrave, any of those other guys
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: are gonna be smart and.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Roll over basically think so yes, I think I think yeah, no,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: And I agree with you a couple more things for
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Dallas Turner. For me, watching Dallas Turner make that play,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: excellent play. I love it because he did everything right
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: as a defender except for rolling off at the last second.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: That's the only thing he did wrong. But we've been
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: kind of critical, we as Vikings fans, have been kind
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: of critical so far of Dallas Turner Grannon. His on
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: field opportunities can be limited with Jonathan Garnard and Andrew
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Van Gingle both in front of him, which with Grenard's injury,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: which we haven't talked about yet, looks like he might
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: miss a game, maybe not, or a game or two
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: at the most, or maybe no games at Also, Dallas
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Turner could get a little bit more experience here this
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: coming week against the Bears. But we've been a little
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: critical of him. The Vikings traded a lot to get him.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: They traded more to get him than they did to
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: get J. J. McCarthy, and he hasn't It's not like
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: he's been breaking records or doing anything. So it was
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: nice to see him make a splash and sack one
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: of the MVP level quarterbacks of the league. Right now,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: that was good. Now, I'm not gonna say he didn't
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: commit a penalty because by the book he did. The
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: way it is now, he did, And if we really
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: want to twist it a little bit, we can only
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: thank Anthony Barr for this and Aaron Rodgers because it
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: was that sack that Aaron Rodgers broke his collarbone. I think, yep,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: from Anthony Barr, that very same kind of a tackle
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: driving the body weight into a quarterback changed the league
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: how many years ago, And I'm okay with that. You
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be able to drive your whole body into a
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: quarterback like that. I'm with you on some level. They're
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: playing football. It's not like they don't know what they're
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: getting into. And by all means, by everything we saw,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson was fine. It's not like he probably felt
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: the h but it's not like he broke anything that
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: we know of, Like he's tough dude. But yeah, I mean,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: I kind of agree with the way it's written right
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: now because it's really only going to protect our quarterback
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: as well as things go. But overall, I'm not mad
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: at Dallas Turner for that play at all. I'm actually
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: pretty jacked about that play except for the penalty and
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: it led to three points. It's not like it was
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: the lynch pin, the one thing that we say that
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: ruined the game. That was the one thing. If that
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: were the one mistake the Vikings made that actually led
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: to a loss in that game, i'd be more critical
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: of it. But that was one of the very many
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: mistakes that were made. But yeah, I feel for it
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: because I don't know it. Did it statistically take away
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: that sack from Dallas Turner.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure it had to.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it did because looking at esp I.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Think there's only one sack and I think it was
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: hard grade. Yeah, or Jonathan Allen is one of the two.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jonathan Allen as far as ESPN stats go. Yeah,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: he's the only one with a sack on that game.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: So that does suck. But yeah, it sucks, and it
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: really stinks because it wasn't like anybody got hurt. But
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: you know, it is what it is, and you just
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: got to teach him do everything you did, just roll
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: off the next time. And what else have we been
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: saying about Vikings tackling all season? Most of them have
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: been arm tackles that they missed. Players like Lamar Jackson
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: totally gets out of most of those places. He did
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: it a few times against the Bikings.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Jared Goff did it last week. Yeah.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: The only way you're gonna make sure to get the
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: guy down is to fully wrap him up, which Dallas
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Turner did it. Just he didn't roll off at the end,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: which I don't know what else you're supposed to do.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: It's like the like in Friends, it's the you remember
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: that episode where Chandler is, uh, do you watch Friends?
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Did you ever watch Friends?
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I've seen it all the way through, but it's been
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: a little while.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: So Chandler is dating Janice, of course, and my yeah,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: that one. And he's struggling because when they fall asleep
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: at night, his arm is under her, and so Ross
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: is trying to give him some pointers on all right,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: here's what you do, and they're like enacting this on
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: the couch in the girl's apartment. He's like, all right,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: so you fall asleep and your arm's under her, and
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: you you gotta you gotta lean over and gotta give.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Her the hug and then you gotta roll away.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: It's the hug and roll care and I see it,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: and so they like they try it out and they're like,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: this is kind of weird. But then Chandler tries it
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: and then Janis.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Like falls off the bed, like flings her off the bed.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: All right, Dallas Turner and just pull a Chandler bang. Yeah.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I would also like to point out really quick, I
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: know I've done this before, but it's our podcast and
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I can say whatever I want.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: The Anthony Barr sack on Aaron Rodgers.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I was driving in the car on the way home
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: from some trip to Minnesota and coming back to Iowa.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: And I've said this before, I.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Know I have.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I'm just repeating it because I think it's awesome.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: We were listening to the Paul Allen radio broadcast and
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: it seemed like every thirty seconds Paul Allen wanted to
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: remind everybody that was listening by the way Anthony Barr
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: has broken Aaron Rodgers collar about like it was just
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: it was so funny and kind of like we should
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: maybe do with these things that are taped to our hands,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Like we haven't done a very good job of reminding people,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: but we have footballs taped to our left hands. Yeah
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: right now, Ye, my hand is kind of going numb.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we may have gone a little too tight with
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: the tape on this, but it's a punishment for a reason.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Yours might be worse than mine because we were both
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: capad that at that point.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it could be worse. But I would definitely
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: choose not to have these on our hands anymore. It'll
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: be the first thing we do when we hit Skull
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: at the end of the episode, just rip these things off.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, but yeah, this is a I'm gonna have red
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: marks on my hand.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: For which is funny because it's red tape. And I
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: mean not that either of us are crazy hairy dudes,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: but every everybody's got a little bit of like knuckle hair.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: What is this top of your hand hair? Yep, Yeah,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: we're gonna be ripping off some some hairs there too.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: That'll be that. Do you remember the punishment?
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: This is really obscure, And no, I think only you
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: would remember this. I don't know that anybody else that
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I've ever talked to in my life would remember this.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: But there was a time when we were kids that
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I put duct tape all around my head.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Do you remember that? I do not remember.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Wow, Oh, I made a bandana or like a like
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: a headband. We dugged because I was like eleven years
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: old and I was an idiot. But taking that off
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: was one of the worst things in my life.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: That's like near torture.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: What what did you do that?
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I've always had relatively, I've had I had longer hair
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: at one point, but like, yeah, that was bad.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: I feel like you were there for that.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: I probably was. You probably were a lot of dumb
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: stuff together growing up, but I did a lot of
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: super specifically remember.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: That, Yeah, that's that.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: That would be painful. I do remember time you tried
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: to run out of your garage the door was closing.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: There was a dent on your head for quite a
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: while too.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Did I ever tell you the story about how I
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: backed out of the garage?
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Your door, Your little hard door was just jacked up
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: for a while.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad was not pleased because it wasn't just
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: my car door, but it was the The track of
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: the garage door got all jacked up too, and I
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: think you had to pay somebody to come in and
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: fix all that. Yeah.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I wasn't lucky enough to park in the garage as
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: a kid.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: But I was fortunate enough to do that. But that
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: privilege almost got taken away. I'm surprised it did in
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: that moment. All right, Well, this game, so I kind
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: of have said my overall thoughts of this game really
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: frustrating in the moment. The penalty suck.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: It's really you want to kick a chair every time
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: something every third, you know, play every time something bad happened.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: But like I said earlier, all that's saying it's not
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: like the Vikings were totally out of their minds trying
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: to play this titan of a team. They still were
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: in it. They lost. It was a it was an
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: earned loss, but one that if they played this exact
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: game a few more times, they probably win one or
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: two more times, you know, So I don't. I don't
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: think the Ravens were out of the Vikings League. I
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: think the season is not doing gloom just because of
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: this one loss makes it more difficult, especially if as
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: the rest of the NFC North keeps winning. Currently, the
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Packers are going to the fourth quarter with the Eagles,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: and the Eagles have a three nothing lead.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: But of course is that going to be a three
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: nothing like Vikings over Raiders.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, I haven't seen any of it.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: But of course by the time we post this, this
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: game will be long over. But yeah, the Lions and
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Bears both won. The Packers are within winning distance of
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: the Eagles right now. It's not going to be an
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: easy season, and ultimately one that really seems like the
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Vikings are going to miss out on the playoffs for
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: But there's a lot of good things too. I mean,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: JJ overall, it wasn't a good game for him, but
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: he did show some flashes. That deep ball early in
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: the game to Jalen Naylor that was a beautiful ball,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: perfectly placed in a perfect catch the touchdown to Jalen Naylor.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Initially I thought maybe he had a better and easy
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: your throw to Justin Jefferson. But after watching that play
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: a few times, I understand why he didn't throw to Jefferson.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: There's a defender kind of crashing down that could have
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: been an interception. But the pass he did throw to
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Jalen Naylor for a touchdown was like insanely well thrown.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: There were a handful of poor decisions that he made,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: so you're gonna get that with an inexperienced quarterback. I
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: think a lot of Ikings fans see how it's Sam
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Donald's playing right now, they see how Drake may is playing,
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: They see how all these other young quarterbacks are playing,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: and they're thinking, man, JJ McCarthy's a bum, he's terrible,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: fire everybody restart. I think it's really early for that.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell's he's an elite offensive mind, a really good coach.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy has shown flashes. I think the way things
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: sit right at this moment, we're gonna be okay. JJ's
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: only twenty two years old and he's already shown things
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: that most twenty two year old college lef quarterbacks could
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: never even dream of doing so.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I think the thing with like Drake May and Bo
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Nicks is you have to remember they played more games
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: last year then JJ McCarthy didn't play a single game
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: outside of the preseason, so they have starting regular season
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: experience and it wasn't great for them either. I think
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: that's the other thing you have to remember is those
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: two guys that came in in the same draft class
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: as JJ McCarthy struggled last year. Neither team was great.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I think the Broncos he looked pretty good the Broncos.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: The Broncos were better, yes, but the Patriots were terrible.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Patriots were bad and they fired their coach, they fired
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: their coach. So and and Ray bolt Man he's been
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the answer and he's he's really unlocked. I wouldn't quite
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: say Belichick era Patriots football, but like they're they're getting there,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: like they're they're a pre coaching that level of dominance again.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: And the Patriots will be interesting for a while because,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: like I don't see guys like Stefan Diggs staying there
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: for a while. He's such a flaky yeah guy. Anyways,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: and like, I think he's kind of the preferred target
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: for oh wait for sure. And the running back room
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: is a question mark too. Like Ramandre Stevenson was their
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: running back to start the season. I think he got
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: hurt and is out and so there's a big question
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: market running back there too. So all that to say,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I think, like the Patriots have question marks, the Broncos
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: have shown signs of weakness. They barely eked one out
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: on Thursday Night this past week. Their defense played really well.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, their defense games are always weird too.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: But all that to say, Drake may Bo Nicks, they
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: played games last year and got meaningful experience, and it
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: wasn't pretty necessarily for either of them. Bonix had the
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: better outcome, made the playoffs and then lost in the
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: first round. But to your point, JJ McCarthy, it's gonna
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: take some time. And this was only his fourth start
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, and we could sit here and complain.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: We could sit here and say, throw in the towel,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: get rid of him, get rid of the coach, get
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: rid of Justin Jefferson, get rid of everybody, burn the
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: whole place down, start over too early.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we can't do that.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: And that's not the way the NFL works either. Like
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: you can't just decide midway through the season that you
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: want the number one draft pick.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't do that, like statistically in.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Numbers wise, it's just it's not even realistic at this point,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: like the Jets or the Browns or somebody's gonna get
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: that number one yea, even if the Vikings lose out.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: And really, if you're that demoralized, just think of the
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: rest of this year as being development for JJ McCarthy.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: To go back to the other two quarterbacks we just mentioned,
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Drake May and Bo Nicks. Drake May is like four
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: months older than JJ McCarthy, which grant scheme of things
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: not much you're you're.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: I'm four months older than you.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Basically. He was also widely considered the most one of
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: the most pro ready and developmentally ready quarterbacks coming out
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: of college in twenty twenty four. At the time, people
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: were still saying JJ McCarthy should be a second round pick.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: They were saying Drake May could be first overall. If
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: you know Caleb Williams, well, Caleb Williams wasn't the guy,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: so no surprise that he's doing well with actually a
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: good coach now, and then bow Knicks. He's three years
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: older than JJ McCarthy, with all that much more experience,
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: bo Nicks playing very well. I don't think there's many
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: teams that would be upset if bo Nix was their
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: quarterback with the way he's playing right now. But it's
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: also not like he's Envy level yet. He's really good
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: and maybe even inching towards Pro Bowl level. But he's
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: also got three life years on JJ McCarthy, So give
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: JJ some time, give him some grace. With a young
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: quarterback like this, you're gonna see some ups and downs.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: What we want to see is what we are seeing
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: some flashes. We're not seeing some accidental good passes. We're
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: just seeing the occasional bad decision, which you're gonna get
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: with a twenty two year old kid who's still learning
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: how to be an NFL quarterback. I'm still I'm still
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: trying to keep a levelhead about this, I think, and
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: this year is not gonna be great, but the future,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: the horizon is coming.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: And I think it's okay to be frustrated as Vikings
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: fans when, like, especially when the hype was so big
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: and and felt so real, Like it didn't feel like
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: this fake, superfluous, like, oh, well, every team gets excited
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: in the pre season and then you start playing games
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: and you realize how crappy your team actually is. Like
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: the hype was real, Like it seemed like there was
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: legitimate substance behind this team coming into the season. You
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: have a second year but basically rookie quarterback who had
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: a year to sit, which is basically the Jordan Love treatment,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: right like, sat behind Sam Darnold who balled out a
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: year ago and got his big contract to play in Seattle.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: You brought in a running back that's gonna help bolster
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: the running game. You reinforced both the offensive and defensive
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: line to really give you a shot in the trenches.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe noticeably, you know you're a little thin in the
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: quarterback area whatnot. But all that to say, yeah, it's
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: not time to panic, no, right, like, let's let this
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: season play out. Let's see what happens, and who knows,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: maybe next year, you know, we're really maybe the hype
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: is real next year. Maybe the substance is.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: There next year.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: And all of this is just kind of, you know,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: fuel to the fire for where the Vikings going next.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, what were we saying all offseason? This team
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: is going to be scary. It's going to go as
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: far as as long as JJ's at least good. Now
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: he's getting towards good. I don't think he's necessarily firmly
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: in that good category yet, we just haven't seen enough.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: He's been injured and you know, up and down when
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: he's been on the field. Plus there's been a lot
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: of other injuries throughout the team that have the offensive line.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Still JJ's still not played with the preferred starting offensive line. Yet.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: We sound like excuse makers right now, but darn it,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: they are legitimate excuses. You can't have Andrew van genkle
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: go down for five, however many games and expect the
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: defense to still be at the level you want it
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: to be. So this team has had some bumps and bruises,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: some speed bumps, but like you just said, the future
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: is bright. This season may not be exactly what we wanted,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: but the future is bright. We're not saying, holy cow,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: they sold everything out for this one year and now
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: it's not gonna work out and the future is terrible.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: They don't have any draft picks or any money, like
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: they're they're gonna be Okay.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I still think the Vikings have kind of a win
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: now roster. Yeah, you've got an older defensive line, you've
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: got an older offensive line, and you paid a lot
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: of money for those guys to come in. I think
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: it's not necessarily win this season now, but it's it's
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: win now, like within the next couple of years. And
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: and you don't draft a quarterback that high anymore. Right
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: when Jordan Love was drafted and Aaron Rodgers was still
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: the quarterback, you didn't draft a young guy that high
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: to win now, especially if you're the Packers and you're
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: notorious for drafting and developing and you've only started four
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks in our lifetime three whatever. It is, right, Like,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: the Packers are just a different organization that way.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: But Jordan Love is also twenty seven, by the way,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: five full years older than j.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: J mccarth. Crazy, so all that.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Vikings still have kind of a win now mentality,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: but it's a win now in the next couple of years.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: And that's that's why you go out and draft a
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: guy as high as you did, and JJ McCarthy like.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: You don't.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: You don't bring in a young guy and say, well,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: we hope to win a championship in the next ten years. No,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: that's not how that works. We got another game to
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: talk about. Yeah, this upcoming week, the divisional game, the.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Vikings host the Bears. It's a divisional game.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Or no, I wrote that wrong on our outline. It's
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: the Vikings do host them.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, I fell. I feel like
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: that's different now, So it's.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: It's an It's the second home game in a row,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: which I think gives the Vikings a good advantage. Not
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: game related. But next week we're gonna have Front of
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: the Show Forest.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Yep, I've talked to a Front of the show Forest.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: I actually was. I think I said it earlier on
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: were playing with multiple I took four flights with him
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: this well this past week, and yeah, we took a
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: good trip down to Florida.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: That was fun. It's been a while since we've had Forest. Yeah.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but overdue to have Forest on the show. Last
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: time we did. We were live streaming during Week one
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: over the Vikings win, which earned JJ McCarthy NFC Offensive
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Player of the Week. Let's hope that that magic is
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: reignited here against the Bears. I looked it up when
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: the betting lines opened. The Vikings are two and a
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: half point favorites, which is interesting because the Bears are
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: six and three. They just had a really impressive comeback
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: win against the Giants this past weekend and I don't
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: I think it was in Chicago. The total over under
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: for this game is forty eight and a half points,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: which would be like, you know, a twenty seven twenty
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: one game something like that. So yeah, I think I'm
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: surprised by this. I think Vegas, you know, they creepily
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: always know something about how these games are going to go,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: and I don't know. I'm just interested to see how
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: this game works. Evan, what is your key to the
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Vikings beating the Bears this weekend?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this kind of was maybe a key for me
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: with the Ravens too, but you got to utilize that
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: home field advantage. I think US Bank is such a
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: great place to play, and the Vikings fans is I think,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: especially with the divisional game against the Bears, they're gonna
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: pour out and they're gonna be there. They're they're going
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: to fill the stands and they're gonna be loud. It's
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: a really loud place.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: To play. I didn't realize this.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: I watched some video on on US Bank Stadium. The Dome,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: the Metrodome was the field was street level, but when
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: they built the new stadium they dropped the field level
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: just a little bit, like I don't know, ten feet
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: or something like that, and that traps the noise interesting
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: in the stadium even more so than the Dome. And
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: the Dome was notoriously loud, like.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: I still say, the loudest place I've ever been was
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: a Monday night football game Vikings Patriots on or the
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: day before Halloween two thousand and something. Meelde Moore had
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: a punt return touchdown. The Patriots absolutely destroyed the Vikings,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: but at one point early on, it was just booming
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: in there. I couldn't think that's how loud it was.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: So the Metrodome had its noise level.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine what that place was like. When caught
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: the Minneapolis Miracle, well that was in the US Bank,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Like that video, though, my parents
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: were there, and I think that has to be one
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: of the loudest moments in sports history.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: There's a bug in here.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: By the way, are in a basement by the way
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Lady bug or something. Yeah, anyways, So, yeah, the home
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: field advantages the point here, right, get momentum, keep it,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: keep that crowd engaged, keep them loud, keep them fired
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: up when the Vikings are on defense, and I think
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: they can do that, and I think if they can
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: get into the backfield and get to Caleb Williams a
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: couple of times, I think.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: That's the key to the victory right there.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting, they said on the TV broadcast against the Ravens.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Every time, at least of this season, every time the
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Vikings have won the toss, they have elected to defer
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: and receive the ball at halftime after you know, in
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: the third quarter, which, if you've got something, which I agree,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: get moment them and keep it. But if you're trying
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: to get momentum early, you think maybe take the ball
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: and try to score right away. And the Vikings game
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: plan has seemed to be like, now we'll let our
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: defense handle it and then we'll take the ball and
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: get off to that start, which I think game theory wise,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: you can go either way.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: Especially at home.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I maybe agree with you, like, take the ball
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: if you win the toss, take the ball, and especially.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: If you're trying to prove something like, hey, we got
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: a young guy. We need to just get some confidence here,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: throw some high percentage pass plays, actually run the ball
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: on third and one.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: You know, the Vikings have a lot to prove there
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: in last place in the division right now, and the
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Bears are ahead of them, So prove it.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. My key to victory, you just got
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: to play to the offensive strengths. Like I just said,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: run the ball when it makes sense to Maybe a
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: strength is to not false start on the worst possible
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: times every play. And the best ways you can help
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback, which he's not. And I'm annoyed whenever
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: other people say it, and annoyed with myself right now
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: for just saying rookie, he's a young, inexperienced quarterback. The
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: best way you can help him is to slow things
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: down for him, simplify things. And if you can hand
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: it off and gain five yards, that's five yards he
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: didn't have to think about for one play, you know
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: what I mean. And if you have to false start
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: and lose five yards, that's added pressure that you're putting
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: on the quarterback's head. I think. In his press conference,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: right after the game against the Ravens, he said something
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: to the tune of I'm the quarterback and the quarterbacks
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: responsible for everything that happens on the field, and he's
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: not wrong. So make it as easy as possible for
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: him out there and play to his strengths. Play to
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: the offensive strengths. Aaron Jones is a really good running
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: back when he's healthy, which he's been healthy a surprisingly
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: high amount of times. Run the ball some more, and
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: get rid of the penalties. So those are my two
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: keys to victory. Rushing the ball wherever it makes sense.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Just be smart. You're at home. Brian O'Neil, a Pro
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: Bowl right tackle should not be false starting three times.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Clean that stuff up.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: We need to wrap this up because I need to
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: get this ball it's untaped from my hands, and I
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: also have to go to the bathroom. Who do you
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: think wins? And what's the score?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: I think this one's gonna be a little bit of
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: a comeback game for the Vikings. I think they're gonna win.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: I think both offenses score a respectable amount of points.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: It'll be over that forty eight and a half point total.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: But I think the Vikings more than cover they'll win
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: thirty four to twenty four.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum in
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: terms of points in the over under and all that.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: I still think the Vikings wink. And I do think
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: this is a bounce back for the Vikings. We'll say
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: it that way, But I think it's close. The Bears
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: have proven they're a decent they they eked one out
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: this last week.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Gritted one out.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: I think they yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: And they've done that a few times, like going back
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks now against the Bengals, like they
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: they had the Bengals basically dead to rights and then
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: the Bengals came back and scored two really quick touchdowns
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: to get it back and tied it. And the Bears
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: still figured out how to win that game. So I
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: think this is a much closer game, and I think
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: the Vikings win twenty to nineteen. I think both offenses
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: struggle to score points. I think it's a defensive battle.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: Internet.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's kind of a boring game, honestly, when
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: it comes down to like NFL football.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, we both predicted a different behind. Oh
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: I missed, there's a there's a bug flying right between us.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: This is really we both predicted a different kind of game. Yeah,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of high scoring, you're kind of.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm on the lower end for an NFL
• 1:11:02
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  Speaker 2: Game, but also for purple punishments reasons. This was my
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  Speaker 2: but not your lock. But this was my lock either way.
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  Speaker 2: If the Vikings loser both spinning, if they win, either
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that would be great. I think we
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  Speaker 3: need to do a few things. First. We need to
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  Speaker 3: maybe kill this bug that's flying around in my base.
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  Speaker 2: You're a little concerned about this book. You know, they
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  Speaker 2: don't bite or anything, right.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to kill it. I can't reach it.
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  Speaker 1: To tell people how great this beer was, because it's gone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we both finished all three of our beers here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Bummer City from Five Cities and back Pocket,
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  Speaker 1: I guess gets some credit as well because it looks
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  Speaker 1: I don't have much to say, not because it's a
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  Speaker 1: I think the last thing we need to do is
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  Speaker 1: we need to school with these and we need to
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, all right, great episode, man.
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