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Farewell, Angel Hernandez · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three.
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O take where we talk all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts right now. Welcome back to the three at
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Take presented by IC Kick. This is episode 437.
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I'll be your host, Kyle Cord, and I'm here with my Co host
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Nate Reyes. Night.
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You know, I was thinking just now during our countdown, how
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fitting is it that that our Angel Hernandez episode didn't
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go as planned the first time around?
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How about that? Now we're having to do it again.
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It was weird. This is awfully fitting.
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You know, you could say we. Blunder.
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Yeah, you could say we got it wrong.
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Yeah, yeah, Yep. Still don't know what that was.
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By the way, I. Don't Yep.
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Could say we got it wrong yeah I I don't know.
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We were about 10-15 minutes in then all of a sudden couldn't
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hear Nate. I missed the days when we just
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recorded podcast episodes and we didn't have to worry about it
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happening live. I.
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Was gonna say, I mean 437 episodes and we're still dealing
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with this one and two. It makes me not miss that like
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this used to happen every other episode for like the first 100
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and 5200. Maybe by episode 1000 it'll be.
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Maybe. Maybe.
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Every three episodes. Yeah, probably not.
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Well, I mean, not to rehash everything we talked about the
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first take, but it is a big day in baseball history.
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May 29th. I know you saw my tweets, but
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turns out in addition to the things that I I made note of
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today, which I'll run through here real quick.
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We got more. Well, just seconds before we
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hopped on we we found out that it was a a big day for a a
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former utility man who apparently doing something
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special stuff these days. But May 29th, man, let's let's
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run through it here real quick. 1982 Cal Ripken sits for the
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last time before he begins his streak of 2632 consecutive
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games. 1990 Ricky Henderson breaks a 62 year old American
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League stolen bases record. 1995 Derek Jeter makes his debut.
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2010 Roy Holiday perfect game. 2010 Also the infamous Kendrick
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Morales ankle break on the home run, the walk off trot, crossing
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home plate. Just a terrible day.
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And then 2017, the Bryce Harper Hunter Strickland brawl, the
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infamous helmet throw, and as I mentioned on our first take,
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seven years to the day he gets thrown at and the benches are
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cleared in San Francisco. That's so weird.
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That's super weird. Super strange.
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Did you watch it though? I did and.
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I didn't see anything there. No, no intention.
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No. A rookie.
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A rookie messing with the Hall of Famer?
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I don't think so. Now, no intention there, I
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wouldn't think, but you know. Maybe he's just, maybe he knew.
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Maybe he woke up today and he's like, man, I hate this day.
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He probably saw my tweet. He's like, well, that's.
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For sure, yeah. The odds of me starting on the
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anniversary of this day ever again are probably pretty slim,
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so got to make the most of it and decided to give give Bryce a
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little chin music. Angel Hernandez.
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Let's get some claps. Get some.
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Claps No, no, no. I want to celebrate.
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This Hold on, hold on. I got ahead of myself here.
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I, I alluded to it. We didn't even talk about it.
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This David Fletcher thing real quick.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Is is he a future Major League knuckleballer now?
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Is. That I didn't realize this was
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the the move here. Is that where we're headed?
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I didn't know this was the thing.
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I didn't I, I knew that he was in the in the Braves
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organization, right? But like, I didn't.
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Know I didn't. Know this is what he was doing
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now. David Fletcher, last I checked,
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is through five against Norfolk. He actually, he struck out
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Jackson Holiday. So do with that information what
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you will. Honestly, when I saw that, I was
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like, I know this might be some sort of stunt.
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I don't know. But I don't know if Jackson's in
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real in any sort of place to be messing around with with the
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whole gimmicks. I think he needs to he needs to
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continue turning it around. And this was an I'll timed PR
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stunt from Gwinnett. Unless, again, unless this is
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like a. Unless this is a thing like.
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Is this what he's trying to do now?
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I didn't know is he like why is he allowed to play?
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Like we were talking about this off air.
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I isn't he under investigation? Shouldn't he be under
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investigation? Even if he's not, the optics of
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it aren't great. And maybe just have him sit out
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for a little while, who knows. Who knows.
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But yeah, he's through. Last I checked he's through five
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and he's only given up two runs. Six KS, six case.
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Oh, for real? Oh yeah, Now that looks like
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the. That looks like the final line.
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5 innings pitch. Three hits, two runs, a walk in
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six case you. Got to watch the pitch.
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Count on Knuckerballers, you know that's the thing.
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What a what an outing. What an outing.
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Angel Hernandez. All right, let's get to it.
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Angel, the headliner for episode.
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What episode is this, 437? This was a day we had been
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waiting for. This was a day that all of
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baseball fans were waiting for. I need to know more.
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I need more. I need the T we I need the T of.
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What's happening here? We didn't get the build up that
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I think we would have wanted. There was no announcement like,
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hey, I'm retiring at the end of the year.
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Hey, at least that I was aware of there.
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Maybe he did say something because again, he's been out.
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Well, he hasn't umped since May 9th.
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So maybe maybe something was said publicly, but I would
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imagine we would have caught the wind of that.
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But he just, he just drops his bomb on us from the clouds and
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it's like, this is great. See ya.
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But we didn't get an opportunity to to really celebrate the build
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up. This is going to sound terrible.
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Please don't judge me here. You know when you're watching
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ATV show or a movie and the bad guy, you hate the bad guy and
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you're like, something is eventually going to need to
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happen to this bad guy. Does he die?
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Does he lose his powers? Whatever happens.
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But you're like rooting for this downfall.
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And then when it happens, there's like this satisfaction
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that you get. I still need more satisfaction.
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I'm not satisfied with how this ended.
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I mean, what? I can't explain it.
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What left is there? Do you want him to get hit by a
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bus? I don't know.
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I needed, I needed some. Well, the answer to that
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question. Should be unequivocally no, but
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it's. Should have been, but should
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have been. But you know, we're moving on
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now. I mean, best case scenario,
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what, what, what will give you the closure that you're looking
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for on this Angel Hernandez retirement news?
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I need fired. I needed fired.
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That's what I meant I. Needed you.
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You have been removed from your position and I understand I the
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whole like, you know, umpire union thing can happen, they're
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untouchable, blah, blah, blah. I just needed something there.
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I needed like a trial or or I needed something to wear.
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The bad guy going down was everything that we were hoping
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for. Rap.
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He's gone, but like. Well, he wasn't.
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He wasn't fired. He wasn't kicked out of the
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league. His lawyer confirmed as much.
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I think the best you're going to get is that someday down the
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road there's going to be some leaked e-mail thread or some
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leaked recording of a conversation behind closed doors
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with the league talking about how just pay this guy off and
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get him out of here. That's probably as good as
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you're going to get. Did you notice because you you
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said there's a settlement involved?
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Yeah. Yeah, it's fuzzy.
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They reached a settlement. My personal belief is that that
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is kind of what happened, that they were just like, all right,
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Angel, this has gone on long enough.
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Let's agree on a number here, and you can you can get out of
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town. What I'm just, I don't know, I
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don't understand the full process, you know, but did you
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notice on MLB Network like the day it happened, no one really
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like MLB Central barely touched it, barely touched it like MLB
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Central like and and you know, they they are typically the ones
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that can talk a little more freely than like a like a
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typical, I don't know. What's the MLB now is the Brian
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Kenny one right? What's the other one?
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Oh, you're saying like like like specific shows within MLB
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Network? I like MLB Central yeah, yeah,
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yeah one of those where like it's a little more loose if.
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Yeah, a little more fast and loose with their.
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No comments, dude, No comments, no comments.
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Like there was nothing. I think Lauren Shahadi, like,
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read off that tweet and then they just moved on.
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And I was like, is that a part of the settlement?
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Like, no, no slander on MLB Network or something like that.
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I mean, there's enough slander on social media.
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There's enough. Are we?
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Going to get into that. Let's get into some farewells.
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Farewell. On well, let's let's let's give
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him his due. Let let's read.
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I'm going to read off his statement here real quick
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because, you know, got to send him off in in his own words, and
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then we'll get into the words of our of our are dear followers,
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who I'm sure I I haven't even read pretty.
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I haven't read really any of them and I'm sure.
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It's the most vague statement too.
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I'm sure our fans are just going to send them off with the
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greatest respect. Yeah, Andrew Hernandez
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retirement statement. Starting with my first Major
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League game in 1991, I've had the very good experience of
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living out my childhood dream of umpiring in the major leagues.
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There's nothing better than working at a profession that you
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enjoy. I treasure the camaraderie of my
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colleagues and the friendships I have made along the way,
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including our locker room attendance in all of the various
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cities. I decided that I want to spend
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more time with my family. Needless to say, there have been
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many positive changes in the game of baseball since I first
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entered the profession. This includes the expansion and
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promotion of minorities. I'm proud that I was able to be
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an active participant in that goal while being a Major League
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umpire. Whatever.
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Whatever, dude. Why even start the season?
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Why? Like yeah, I think he was forced
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out and I I just need a documentary on it.
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I need more tea. I need to know where the truth
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lies. That's what I'm saying.
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I think the league probably starting this year, they're
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like, all right, let's give this another go.
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And it maybe just got to the point where it's so bad and I
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have to think that this plays into, I'm not saying it's a
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conspiracy, but I have to think that this whole thing that I've
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been pushing, I won't loop you into it, but personally I've
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been pushing of this whole like conspiracy umpire thing.
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Like there, this has to play into it in some.
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Facet to you're saying like being so bad that they're going
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to force the issue for automated strike zone, not the conspiracy.
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No, I'm just saying it. It's just convenient that the
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Angel Hernandez retirement comes in the midst of all of this.
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Again, I think it's a conspiracy going on that these umpires are
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somehow almost being paid off to be as bad as they are.
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I don't fully disagree here. I I'm just saying, I think that
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I, I don't know, I can't make sense of it, but I'm just saying
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it's very, it's very interesting that I feel like umpires are as
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bad as they've ever been. And then all of a sudden we get
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out of the blue, we get an Angel Hernandez firing.
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I, I couldn't tell you. I don't maybe they're going all
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right, let's get one of the worst out of the league.
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And then if, if the casual baseball fan thinks that the,
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the guys that are left who are like at least respectable, if
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they're as bad as they are, then we have a little bit more
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credibility. I don't I don't credibility in
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terms of this, this conspiracy or or ushering in robo.
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I don't know it. There's a lot there's a lot up
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in the air with that and I'm not going to sit here and act like
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it's set in stone. Just a conspiracy.
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That's all. Understandable.
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Let's get into some farewell statements.
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So as I mentioned, I haven't even I haven't I haven't cleared
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these have not pre approved any of these.
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I did say I was going to read off the best, but frankly.
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They're all good. They're all great and I, I, I
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won't be able to get to all of them.
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There was over 400 on Facebook. There was, there was more on
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Instagram. People are dropping it in the
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stories. All in all, there's probably
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close to 500 farewell notes that people left.
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So love that. Not surprised.
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But Facebook, I figured, was probably going to be the most
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entertaining because, as we know, face baseball fans on
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Facebook are a little rational. Starting from the top here.
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What do we got? All right, Mike says happy
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retirement. No one is going to challenge
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this call. Frank says May 27th should be
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called Angel Hernandez Day. No one saw that.
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Tiffany says no one saw this coming, especially Angel.
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Andrea said first standing ovation he'll have in his entire
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career. Oh, somebody made a I've always
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considered myself a man of faith.
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Nick Casianos joke. Sure, there's you always got to
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throw one of those in there. Let's see take TB Buckner with
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him. True, He planned a that was
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Joseph Wayne says he planned a retirement trip with his wife
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but missed it. That's good, Frank said.
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I'm just glad they let him have the job given his clear
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disabilities. That's terrible.
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That's that's so bad. I didn't say it.
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It was it was Frank. I didn't say that.
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I love it, Frank. All right, Nick, Nick says
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calling games is hard, especially at that level.
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Enjoy the well earned retirement.
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Well earned? I don't know about that.
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What are we? Just because somebody, just
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because somebody sticks around for a long time doesn't mean
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they're good. Yeah, read the room, Nick read.
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The Room. Or just watch.
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You just watch baseball. Cam says hope you enjoy your
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time outside. Fart away, just like all your
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strike calls. Let's see at the, Tom says.
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At the end of the day, he was just an umpire in a sport.
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I'll give him the benefit that doubt and say that he did his
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best, even if it wasn't very good.
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You know, this brings up a fair argument because it's like the
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guy's stunk, the guy's terrible, but like, who?
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Who is it on? You know what I mean?
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When you see a child in in the grocery store acting a fool,
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you're like, you know what? Those are some terrible parents.
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Like you can't help but go there.
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Like, at what point are we going to blame, like the someone above
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making decisions, the league, the union, like this needed to
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end and it did. But yeah, he's terrible.
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Yellow fleece on Instagram said I know you can't see what the
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future holds, but good luck. Some positivity.
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Nathan said, well, it was a little more it was a little more
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expletive lace, but I I took the cleaner out.
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Nathan said you suck, never call a game again.
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Venture to say he won't be. I mean, if you're Angel
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Hernandez, you don't go to any other like level of, of
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umpiring, right? That there would be no reason to
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do that. I really, really look forward to
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the day that he just attends another ball game and they find
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him. They put him on camera and
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50,000 just let it eat. Just rain booze down.
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That's what I would that that would satisfy me.
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That's the villain going down. Gary asked.
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How the heck did you keep your job over the last 30 years
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despite being one of the worst umpires in the sport?
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It's a valid question. Jason says I hope you go
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quietly. Like a fart in the wind.
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Your stench will always linger, sweet Angel.
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Ah, yes, that's. A lot of people in here talking
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about the corrective eye surgery, making those jokes.
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Did you see that? Yes dude, they lasik lasik spam
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the. Spam.
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That's so. Crap out of the the Angel tweets
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and the Angel post. It was unreal.
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Think it was. I gotta give the nod.
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I think it was John Boy that was like, this is a marketing scheme
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that's going to go down in textbooks, like.
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Yeah. They're going to talk about this
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in textbooks years from now. It was so good.
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They I'm. I'm genuinely starting to wonder
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if LASIK wasn't founded for this very moment.
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Like, yeah, sure, they do the LASIK surgeries and all that
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stuff, but they were waiting for this moment because they were
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ready. I they always talk about take
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advantage of the opportunity when it's given to you.
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They took advantage. They were ready.
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Did you, do you ever, do you remember as a kid like the MC
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Hammer commercials where he did something for like like a
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financial company and he like played on the fact that he was
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broke, like he went bankrupt? Yes, yes.
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Do you remember that? I think there's an opportunity
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here for Angel Turn into the skid, partner with LASIK, go do
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some commercials. It was too late for me, but it's
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not too late for you. You know, a little something
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there. Just a thought.
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There's so many puns to be had there.
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I mean come on Angel, this is this is your moment.
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This is your 1 shining moment. I will say that he it seemed
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like he, I've never saw the guy lose his cool.
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I I think there was just this blank stare of cluelessness
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anytime someone got in his face. Whereas like Las Diaz, CB
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Buckner, they'll fire back, man, if a manager gets in their face
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or player gets in their face, they'll just, they'll fire back
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and I'm like, you're firing back and you're wrong.
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That's bad. I'll give I'll give a little pat
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on the back for Angel. He just kind of ate it.
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Whether it was intentional or just ignorant bliss.
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He that's what I'm saying, I. Gotta give it to him.
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He he wore it like a champ. Yeah, I I don't get it.
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And I saw that video recirculated recently where he
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he stopped to sign that ball for that one guy.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. As they're like walking out of
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the park, I'm like, he's wearing like a champ.
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He's he's signing autographs, whether it was sarcastically or
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not. I saw on Twitter CC Sabathia
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responded to like someone tweeting out his like post game
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presser talking about like in a game he pitched in and Angel was
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wanting to play and he just talked about how horrible he was
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and he had responded to this being dug up again with the with
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the Looney Tunes. That's all folks GIF.
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I love it. I love the pettiness.
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I'm here for it. Tim said you can rest assured we
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don't even need to go to the booth in New York for this call.
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Yeah, adios. I love it.
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Yeah, there's some vulgar ones in here.
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We need to, my good man people. I tell you what man, I.
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Hate it dude. Facebook is like it's turning
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in. There, Facebook is a jungle.
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Yeah, didn't start out that way. Thanks a lot, Zuckerberg.
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Yeah, I, I will say though, there there's a lacking of
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creativity with some of these comments.
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It's like, OK, we've we we get them.
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Well, I tried to call him to congratulate him, but he missed
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the call. OK, that joke.
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Come up with something else that's.
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What Facebook is, baby, that's what it.
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Come up with something else. Thrives, thrives.
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The amount of Facebook videos I get from my parents that are
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videos that are like three or four years old.
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My dad just sent me one of like the, the, the T-ball where kid
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hits it and it's just chaos all over the place.
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I'm like, Dad, I saw this. Years ago or the one of the kid
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where he's like super slow super.
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Slow. That's exactly that.
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She's like, this is so good. I'm like.
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That's a classic. Or when the kid, the dad said
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that he couldn't get the kid his bat for his birthday.
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He opens up the trunk, the trunk of the white van, and he starts
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crying. Another classic.
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Yeah. That kid's like that kid's 25
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now. He's got his own kid.
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The kids probably making his debut, like, right now in the
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big leagues, if if we're being honest.
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All right. Any other thoughts on the Angel
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Hernandez? Situation.
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Who's now? Who's now the worst?
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Who takes the crown? For me, it's last Diaz.
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Yeah, I was going to say I have AI have an exceptional bias
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against him for what he did to the 2021 Boston Red Sox and the
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ALCS, but. For me it's last Diaz and you
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can always tell with how bad the strike three call is.
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His is his is bad. Speaking of my favorite Aaron
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Boone moment, it's not even close.
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Yeah, that's that's top tier. That's top tier.
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Speaking of strike three, I I will say that Angel Hernandez
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did leave us with a a good moment or two before he left
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this year because wasn't it was just like, was it last week, a
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couple weeks ago with the three balls.
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The Wyatt Langford at bat, Yeah, yeah, like 3 sliders, all all
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very off the plate. Multiple baseballs off of the
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plate, Three up three. What was it?
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3 pitches, Three straight it. Was three Yeah.
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And why? It's just like I OK.
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Why even bother? Why even bother?
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Yeah, Guy stinks. Yeah.
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I don't. I don't really feel bad.
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Like the whole, honestly, if he would have worn it like we were
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talking about for his career the way that he did and he was just
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like bad. It's the it's the lawsuit for
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not. It's the lawsuit, it's the, it's
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the creating a narrative against himself where it's like, no,
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dude, you're just bad at your job.
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You're you're not just bad at your job.
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You're horrible and people they're saying well, he's not
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the he's not the he's not the worst.
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I thought I had a note here. Yeah, this.
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Well, this year and we're again 22 plus months into the season,
26:59
he ranked 67th out of 8085 umpires incorrect call rate this
27:04
year near the end of last year he was dead last so.
27:10
You see on that trajectory, you know what I mean?
27:12
Like he had. He was getting there, yeah.
27:14
You knew he was just going to keep sliding this year.
27:16
Just just gave the rest of the league or the rest of the
27:18
umpires a head start, that's all.
27:21
Yeah, overall, like on all seriousness, I, I would, I, I
27:25
think I would just appreciate a little bit more clarity with
27:30
how, how they're graded, what can be done if they fail over
27:39
and over and over. Like I just, I think I want the
27:42
league to be more clear on what's necessary.
27:48
What are the, what kind of threshold are we needing to stay
27:50
above to stay active and like the punishment of not getting
27:56
post season games. I just, I don't know if it's
27:59
enough for like fit a fan base to wrap their mind around.
28:04
I just need a little more clarity.
28:06
And by the way, I don't know if if you're on Twitter and if you,
28:10
if you follow that MLB scorecard account, Great, great account.
28:16
They do a little report card after each, after each game,
28:19
literally every game. And it's it's good.
28:22
That's a good account to follow. But yeah, just need more
28:25
clarity, man. Just like I know it's not a part
28:29
of the CBA because they have their own CBA with MLB.
28:34
The MLBPA isn't a part of that mix.
28:36
But I just, I want a little bit more like, I don't know.
28:42
Clarity is kindness. Yeah, I think that's just a
28:45
kindness. Yeah, a Safeway to say it.
28:50
Let's talk about the Negro League stats official today as
28:55
of today. And I confirmed I I went on
28:59
Baseball reference went on MLB.com slash stats confirmed
29:04
both the Negro leagues stats have officially been integrated
29:10
into that of Major League baseballs.
29:15
And can I just say like real quick, can everybody just calm
29:20
down about all of this? And I'm not saying like if
29:23
you're excited about it or if you, if you think it's good, I'm
29:25
just saying like collectively, like, can we just talk about
29:29
this for what it is and not make this such a like societally
29:36
charged issue? Like, can we let's just talk
29:38
about how some dudes that played many, many years ago are finally
29:44
getting their shine. All right?
29:45
They're finally getting their recognition.
29:48
I saw some nasty stuff today, man.
29:51
And I texted you and I was like, I, I'm exhausted just reading
29:56
through some of these comments because it's not, it wasn't even
29:59
about the, the, the matter at hand.
30:02
It was just, people were just going so far off the rails.
30:04
And I know that that happens with any subject these days that
30:08
has two or more sides to it. But I'm like, we're not even
30:14
talking anymore about this, the statistics being integrated.
30:18
We're talking about things that aren't even relevant to this.
30:21
And it's taken away from the, the movement that that this is.
30:29
And you know, I don't know, a common theme that I saw and that
30:38
I've been encountering in in response to all of this is that,
30:43
well, how can you integrate the, the Negro League stats?
30:48
How can you say that these are Major League Baseball stats when
30:51
it wasn't Major League Baseball? And look, I myself am asking the
30:58
same question, but maybe not for the reasons that you want to
31:01
like jump to conclusions with, OK.
31:05
Do I think that that the guys that played during the Negro
31:10
League era were incredible baseball talents?
31:13
Absolutely. Do I think they should?
31:16
They're deserving of the spotlight for their
31:21
accomplishments and let's let's call it what it is, a very
31:28
challenging time to play baseball or really to just
31:33
exist. Like they had to go through hell
31:36
and back. I would imagine at that time
31:39
very challenging. But just looking at it from a
31:42
baseball statistical perspective, I had to ask the
31:47
question like, they're two, they're two separate.
31:54
There were two separate leagues. Is that unfortunate?
31:56
Absolutely. Like would you have in an ideal
31:59
world, would you wanted, would you have wanted guys like Josh
32:04
Gibson, Satchel Paige to be playing alongside of of the guys
32:08
in Major League Baseball the entire time?
32:10
Absolutely. We missed out.
32:12
We weren't alive obviously, during that strip that, that
32:15
era, but I can guarantee without ever having lived in that era
32:20
that we missed out on the we as in the baseball world missed out
32:23
on some pretty great baseball because of that division that
32:27
existed. And, and something that I've
32:32
seen a lot of a lot of people say is, well, if we're going to
32:36
integrate the Negro Leagues, then are we going to does that
32:40
mean we're going to integrate Japanese baseball too?
32:45
And then the people that are a common response assault of that
32:48
was, well, it's not in America, so it doesn't matter.
32:52
And I'm going yeah, but like, it's still a different league,
33:01
though. It's still a different league.
33:04
And I know it's a, it's a very difficult topic to navigate
33:09
because again, I, I absolutely want guys like Josh Gibson and,
33:16
and company to get the credit that they deserve.
33:19
They were incredible baseball players.
33:22
But it's just hard for me to group the OR to label the
33:30
statistics that they accumulated as Major League Baseball stats
33:34
when they never played Major League Baseball.
33:37
Yeah. And, and the people that say,
33:40
well, I've, I've, I've seen this report reference so many times
33:44
today, it's from this article, it said.
33:48
A special committee on baseball records decided in 1969 to
33:52
recognize six major leagues dating to 1876.
33:56
The National, which launched in 1876, the American 19 O1, the
34:00
American Association 1882, the Union Association, the Players
34:05
League and Federal League. And they're saying, well, those
34:10
weren't Major League organizations and they're
34:13
included in Major League stats. I'm, I disagree with that too.
34:17
Like it's not just because this is like a Negro leagues thing
34:20
versus like leagues elsewhere. This is just like a Major League
34:24
Baseball versus everything else. Like is, again, is it
34:28
unfortunate that we had that division in the 1st place?
34:31
Yes. But it it just doesn't.
34:35
I I don't know. I don't know.
34:37
It just doesn't make sense to me to you have a league that's
34:40
quite literally named something completely different now grouped
34:44
in with Major League Baseball. Yeah.
34:47
I don't know. It's it's, it's tough.
34:49
I think I feel similarly the the the other comparison I keep
34:54
hearing is that like, would you mix like the ABA stats with the
34:59
NBA? And it's like, it's just it,
35:02
it's it's it didn't exist. You know what I mean?
35:07
Like it, it's hard to say. And I'm not, I'm not going to
35:11
sit here and say like, Josh Gibson wouldn't be the OPS or
35:15
average leader if if you got an opportunity to play in the MLB.
35:21
I'm not saying that, you know, Satchel Paige wouldn't be that
35:26
kind of leader in in major pitching stats or categories.
35:31
I'm just saying that like it it didn't happen.
35:33
So it's kind of hard for us to just group it into one and just
35:41
say, hey, like we're going to have that conversation of Josh
35:47
Gibson is now the greatest baseball player in Major League
35:51
Baseball history when it wasn't Major League Baseball.
35:54
It's just, it's hard to, it's hard to navigate that.
35:56
And, and like if we remove the obvious divisive hot topics of
36:06
race and things like that, like if we remove that aspect of it,
36:12
I, I, I think a lot more people would agree.
36:19
But at the same time, it's like I am excited that they're
36:24
getting like, I am excited that there's people learning Josh
36:28
Gibson's name today for sure. You know, like, I am excited
36:32
that baseball as a whole has like has grown and potentially
36:41
received more exposure for the news.
36:45
You know what I mean? Like there's, there's plenty of
36:49
positives to take out of this for the game of baseball.
36:54
And I don't know if there's a right or wrong decision.
36:57
I think it's just it is difficult to rewrite history.
37:02
You know, it's difficult to to Fast forward 30-40 years down
37:07
the road and and look back and say like, well, the Negro League
37:11
did exist, but now those stats are combined.
37:15
I just, I don't know. I don't know if there's a right
37:18
or wrong way, but it is just interesting, you know, 'cause
37:25
it's like they didn't play Major League Baseball, but we're going
37:29
to consider them statistical leaders of Major League
37:36
Baseball. It's been around a while, you
37:38
know, it's. And, and the commentary, the
37:40
commentary surrounding that point, I, I saw a lot of today
37:44
and just browsing different forms and, and what have you is
37:49
that, and it, it's a valid, it's a valid point where people say,
37:55
well, it wasn't a talent barrier, it was a racial
38:00
barrier. But that again goes back to my
38:03
point of is it unfortunate? Is it unfair that there was this
38:10
division that that existed that kept that, I mean, call it what
38:14
it is, racism, hatred that kept them out of the league and and
38:19
kept them from an opportunity to play Major League Baseball?
38:22
Absolutely. But it doesn't it like, I'm
38:29
sorry, like if you have mean things to say to me for this
38:33
take, you can go ahead and, and, and reach out to me and, and
38:37
share those thoughts. It's just really hard for me to
38:42
sit here and, and try to fathom or, or understand how a league
38:46
that existed outside of Major League Baseball is now having
38:51
its data compiled with that of Major League baseballs when they
38:58
were two separate leagues. I, I don't know.
39:03
It's again, a love like you made you made a great point, a love
39:09
that so many people now are learning about some of these
39:12
guys that otherwise may not have gotten the recognition they
39:17
deserved. A number of these guys have
39:19
since made the the Hall of Fame and and we know that, but I
39:25
just, it just begs the question like was, is there a different
39:30
way that that recognition could have been achieved without, I
39:36
mean, rewriting history? I don't know.
39:39
It's, it's a, it's a challenging topic to navigate.
39:43
I'll, I'll say that much. And I, I will say I, I think
39:46
there was people on both sides at the top of the matter that
39:50
whether they agreed or disagreed were rushing to conclusions and,
39:55
and jumping into the discourse without thinking about it very
39:58
like critically, they were just sticking to, to 11 talking point
40:04
on one side or the other. And it just didn't make for very
40:07
good. Very wholesome discourse today.
40:11
Yeah, yeah. And you're right.
40:13
I think it did take away in many ways what the what the whole
40:19
point of it was. You know, it's it's kind of
40:23
tarnished slightly, but it's done now, you know what I mean?
40:30
Like this is what it is now. Like we we now have a new
40:33
leader. And was it so Josh Gibson took
40:37
over OPS, which like, let's let's face it, what?
40:42
No one's really paid attention to OPS and until like the last
40:45
five years. So I don't think anyone was like
40:49
ready to list the number one all time leader of OPS from.
40:54
Yeah, years ago he took over average.
40:58
Average Yeah took over Ty Cobb's title. 372 is what I read.
41:05
Let me just make sure I got it here 370-3373.
41:09
Goodness, dude. Yeah, but what's interesting,
41:14
and I'm not, I'm not trying to discredit that, that's that's an
41:17
amazing career. But it's something that was
41:19
brought up and it's it's a case by case.
41:23
It's not like everybody had similar numbers, but he had 2168
41:31
at bats and I think Ty Cobb was like over 10,000 or something I
41:37
saw. And so people were that that was
41:40
one of those points where people were just, they saw that and
41:42
they ran with it. And I'm like, well, it it's
41:44
worth noting, but it's not, I'm not going to build my entire
41:47
argument for or against off of how many at bats a guy, a single
41:52
guy got when we're talking about an entire league.
41:56
But yeah, he took over. It was average OPS and was on.
42:04
The base. Was it on base?
42:08
Yeah, it was, it was three major categories.
42:10
But yeah, Josh Gibson was one of the the he was, he was, I would
42:17
say the face of this, this news as it broke slugging, that's
42:24
what it was, batting, slugging, OPS.
42:27
So, yeah, like you said, it's here the and I as I mentioned,
42:33
the stats are official. They are confirmed they are in
42:36
you can I'm looking at them right now.
42:37
You can go check them out on baseball reference.
42:39
You can check them out on MLB.com.
42:44
Regardless, agree, disagree. There is a lot to be learned, a
42:49
lot of history that's, you know, news like this, efforts being
42:55
made by MLB The Show to incorporate more of the back
42:58
stories of yeah, stories of guys that we didn't otherwise know
43:03
about into integrating that into that game and, and the gameplay
43:08
and the loading screens and all that stuff that I was reading a
43:11
lot. A lot to be, a lot to be
43:13
learned. So.
43:16
I, I, I think, yeah, I don't know if maybe the, the
43:21
conversation changes or, or comes back or is altered moving
43:28
forward, but I think like, in many ways, and you mentioned it
43:35
before of like what they dealt with in, in that time, you know
43:40
what I mean? And like the, it was just what
43:43
the time was, you know, it was what life was back then.
43:47
And what they dealt with, you know, in spite of it is, is to,
43:56
I think it's, I think it's a big victory in many ways for sure.
44:02
And, and, and it's OK to have a victory.
44:04
And it's OK to also be, you know, hard to swallow of like,
44:11
like you said, like a whole new league coming in that changes
44:18
the way we look at numbers. And, and that's the biggest
44:24
thing. Like we're a game of numbers,
44:25
you know what I mean? Like we're, we can remove all
44:29
aspects to it. And I mean, our game is, is, you
44:35
know, right now predominantly Latin, you know, like it's, it's
44:38
not like we're all sitting here wanting to pull the white card
44:44
or pull the racial card. I, I think it's just, it's, it's
44:47
strange just because it's a totally separate league.
44:52
And I think obviously baseball has changed since integration.
45:00
And that's why Jackie Robinson has celebrated the way he is
45:04
because it, it almost was like a here's a new beginning and
45:07
here's how we proceed. Learning from the past, like you
45:14
said, it was, it's like it was what it was.
45:16
No one's happy about it. No one's like, that wasn't great
45:20
time in history. It's not a proud time in
45:22
history, but it did happen and it is our history and we are
45:26
able to learn from it and move forward.
45:31
So yeah. And who knows, maybe, maybe this
45:35
sparks new. There's nothing better than than
45:39
our game in my, in my opinion, across all sports.
45:42
Like, I don't, I don't think there's any other game that has
45:45
this type of melting pot of, of culture and maybe this, this
45:53
grows that aspect even more. Hopefully it does.
46:01
Well said. Any other thoughts?
46:04
Got got a couple dudes that I wanna I wanna cover here a few.
46:10
Actually for me. Few, actually.
46:13
I'm gonna ask you this before the 2024 season.
46:19
Actually before, like maybe this week, make it even simpler for
46:24
you. Had you heard the name Jeremiah
46:25
Estrada? Before today, no, I said.
46:29
All out myself. All out myself I.
46:31
Was going to say I said this week, but you're saying all out
46:33
myself before today. Nate.
46:38
He has struck out 13 consecutive batters entering entering
46:43
Wednesday. It's pretty good.
46:48
Which, by the way, is a record. And I did.
46:51
I, I saw that he he celebrated the feat by hitting up in and
46:57
out after the game. I did.
47:00
See. He also quoted Talladega Nights
47:03
in in the Press The post. Conference.
47:05
Did he really? Post game, he was like, 'cause
47:07
you saw when you went back out, out of the dugout and there was
47:10
just like the huge crowd after the game and still giving him
47:12
some love. He was like, yeah, I kind of
47:14
felt like kind of felt like Talladega Nights.
47:17
I didn't know what to do with my hands.
47:19
It's like, all right, I'm you got a new fan, dude.
47:23
I love it, man. I mean, talking about that
47:28
Padres bullpen, though, between Estrada and Suarez, it's
47:34
disgusting. Combined, they've given up.
47:38
Well again. Entering Wednesday, they've
47:40
given up three earned runs and 41 innings pitched, but this
47:45
strikeout feat is believed to be the longest streak of its kind
47:52
since at least 1961. It's nuts.
47:59
That's nuts. I'm trying to figure out nothing
48:02
against the guy. I'm trying to figure out how.
48:08
Like what it is What it is that makes it so?
48:13
I'm I'm like, I'm looking at baseball savant fastball's at
48:20
96.9. He's a he's a three pitch guy,
48:27
fastball split slider, not like a crazy.
48:36
I mean fly ball rate is pretty high.
48:39
So you'd wonder like, like how does he?
48:45
I don't know how's he doing this?
48:47
That's what I'm trying to figure.
48:48
Like nothing against like obviously he's got good stuff,
48:50
but I'm like, it's not like ground breaking things.
48:55
You know what I'm seeing? Like you see Mason Miller with
48:57
like one O 2 in your face, you know, But like, what is it about
49:03
this that's making it so hard to hit?
49:06
Can I interrupt real quick? Sure.
49:09
Sister-in-law texts me with her weekly trivia.
49:12
Third trivia. They go to trivia on Wednesdays.
49:14
Boy, she always hits me up with the baseball question.
49:17
Says name one of two MLB players to have their numbers retired
49:20
for the Mets this year. Retired this year.
49:24
This year, Strawberry, this year, right?
49:28
Keith Hernandez has been retired for a while, right?
49:32
That was semi recently. Was strawberry this year?
49:40
Strawberry Gooden don't cheat. I'm not pretty sure it's
49:49
strawberry. David Wright.
49:55
No, we. Would have seen that 10 only you
49:59
name one. One of two retired from the Mets
50:03
this year. I'm going.
50:03
Strawberry. Go strawberry.
50:05
Yeah, that's fine. Back to your point, what is it
50:09
that that this guy has? It makes him so special.
50:12
You can go, I, I did it today. You can go pull up.
50:16
You can pull up the montage of his 13 consecutive strikeouts.
50:19
And you tell me, listener or viewer, what you see that makes
50:25
this makes sense. There's nothing about it that
50:28
adds up. This might just be one of those
50:31
scenarios in baseball where it's like, you know, a guy catches a
50:35
a good, he's riding a, he's riding a hot hand.
50:39
I use this story all the time, but I remember when I was a kid,
50:43
I think it was Shelly Duncan came up with the Yankees and he
50:49
had like a crazy stretch of home runs.
50:52
I think he had four home runs in his first four games to start
50:55
his career or whatever. And I would say 90% of the
51:01
people listening to this don't know who Shelly Duncan is.
51:03
So I'm not saying Jeremiah Estrada is going to end up that
51:08
way. But like, yeah, you're right.
51:10
Sometimes guys just catch this streak and hopefully they do
51:15
well. But like, last year he threw in
51:16
12 games. He had a 6-7 ERA, 13 strikeouts,
51:25
12 games. This year, he's got 28
51:26
strikeouts. Still doesn't address the fact
51:29
of like. Why like how this is happening?
51:31
That's what I'm saying. And he's like, it's a pretty
51:33
generic motion. There's nothing funky.
51:37
It's it's right over the top. He's he doesn't really have much
51:42
that you're going to see on pitching ninja.
51:44
Like there's just the stuff just isn't I don't know, it's nothing
51:52
special, but yet he's diced up 13 in a row and they're all
51:56
swinging by the way. I don't I don't think I
51:57
mentioned that. That's crazier.
51:59
Everyone of the 13 has been swinging.
52:02
That's crazier to me. So there must be something that
52:06
we're just not seeing, like from our vantage point, from behind
52:12
there. It must be something that we're
52:13
just not seeing. Because if you're going down
52:15
swinging 13 times, like collectively obviously, but
52:21
you're seeing some something that you like and then when you
52:25
go to hit it, it's just not there.
52:27
I can't explain it. I don't understand it.
52:34
Oh well, good for him. Keep it wrong.
52:36
Don't. Make no sense.
52:39
Them colors don't run. He and the other thing to.
52:44
Another Talladega Night quote. The other thing, the other thing
52:48
that's that's worth noting is that a handful of these outings
52:53
over the course of these 13 strikeouts have been over multi
52:56
inning efforts. Like he he's not just coming out
52:59
giving you everything he's got for three batters and calling it
53:01
at night like he's going, he's coming out for a second inning.
53:05
And it was against a, but this started with a white hot Yankees
53:09
team, too. Like an offense.
53:12
Yeah. Oh yeah, That whole line.
53:13
It was on a tear. Judge is in that mix.
53:16
Soto's in that mix, I believe. So it's not like he's not, he's
53:21
not like he's facing some, some scrubs, you know what I mean?
53:25
Like he's, he's doing his thing. Speaking of doing his thing,
53:30
Corey Seeger, eight home runs in eight games.
53:36
I actually had to update my notes because I did this.
53:38
I, I was, I was pulling my notes together ahead of the, the
53:44
Rangers game today, Wednesday, and then I, I flipped the
53:49
Rangers game on and sure enough, who's going deep?
53:51
Corey Seeger So it was seven and seven games coming into today
53:55
had updated to 8 entering Wednesday.
54:00
Didn't didn't get around to fully updating my notes for
54:02
this, this particular individual.
54:07
But entering Wednesday, his previous seven games, he was he
54:10
was hitting 375 with a 500 on base percentage and had 11
54:17
ribbies. During that seven game stretch,
54:22
he raised his OPS from 670 to 812.
54:28
That's gross. That's how do you even do that?
54:33
Well, hitting seven home runs in seven games, but eight?
54:38
No, I'm saying during that stretch, like I'm sure I don't
54:41
even what's his OPS now it's probably higher than 812.
54:44
But the entering Wednesday, he had raised his OPS from those
54:50
seven games from 670 to 812. What a dude is this?
55:00
Is this a guy? I mean, I fuck, I kind of know
55:04
the answer to this question already.
55:05
But for a a lackluster American League West and for a semi
55:12
underwhelming Texas Rangers team, is this the spark that the
55:18
the team needs to get going? He's kind of the captain, you
55:24
know what I mean? This is the first big contract
55:32
that they gave out in a long time.
55:34
It's the one that they doubled down on.
55:36
They follered up with with Marcus Simeon.
55:39
He's the quasi captain in many ways, just deadly in the
55:46
postseason. We've seen it year over year,
55:49
especially when he was, you know, with the Dodgers.
55:51
It's like he, he just, this is what he does.
55:54
But like you said, dude, that I, I don't know.
55:58
The AO West has been underwhelming, to put it
56:01
lightly. The Rangers are only plus one in
56:08
their run differential this year.
56:12
He missed some time, didn't he? I think he had a hamstring
56:15
issue. That sounds right.
56:20
Yeah. Yeah, he.
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Hasn't played all year. He did miss time.
56:26
Yeah, dude. Oh, Captain, my captain, you
56:29
know what I'm saying? Like when you go, we go.
56:32
So. Three games back.
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As it stands right now, I'm looking at it 27 and 29, three
56:37
games back of the 30 and 26 Mariners. 27 and 29 So what is
56:43
that? Oh, like game total 50?
56:49
656 yeah. Oh, so he hasn't missed that
56:53
much that much time. He's played fifty.
56:56
Maybe it's just a slow start, but look at him go man.
57:02
I don't think he gets enough love.
57:04
I really don't I don't think he gets enough credit.
57:08
I, I, I think he is a top three short stop in baseball all
57:13
freaking day all day. We just need to go though.
57:19
Was his start just that slow that we thought he went to the
57:22
IO? Did he not?
57:25
Did he not? I think he.
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I don't, I, I don't know, maybe he didn't start the season I
57:32
drafted him in fantasy. He trade him.
57:36
He left the game early, but that wasn't anything that kept him
57:40
out. Oh well.
57:46
By the way, he's he's getting back to Corey Seeger for him.
57:51
So good for him. He loved to see that.
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Yeah, like you said, one at the top of the game you love.
57:56
They need. They need to go though.
57:57
They need to get it rolling. I mean, if they don't go after
58:02
this kind of effort, I don't know if they're going at all
58:04
this year. I don't watch a lot of their
58:08
games. I'm assuming pitching is still
58:11
the issue. They've given up 248 runs.
58:23
It's not great, not great 248. For reference, the Yankees have
58:31
given up 178 two. 148 / 56 that is a 4.43 average.
58:41
That is not good. That's tough.
58:45
That explains it. Rockies have given up 304.
58:52
Love that Talking about a guy that's going David Frye, a super
58:59
utility man. Another name I bet you weren't
59:03
Uber familiar with. Today.
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Yep, I got nothing to hide here, baby.
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I watch as much baseball as I can.
59:15
You watch more baseball than the average person.
59:18
Like by a by a healthy margin. I'd like to think so.
59:23
Not enough. There's never enough.
59:25
You can never watch enough. There's not enough time in the
59:27
day. There really isn't.
59:30
Quite literally, there isn't you if even if you wanted to, you
59:33
couldn't watch 15 games in a day.
59:37
Yeah, you're not married. If that's the case, ain't going
59:45
to work. Yeah, you would I'd have some
59:50
serious heart to heart questions for you if if you were watching
59:54
30. What is that 45 hours worth of
59:57
baseball on a given day? Must be fine in the condensed
1:00:01
versions of those games because like I said, not enough time in
1:00:04
the day. David Fry, though, in his.
1:00:07
In 19 games this month, slashing 396-520-9755, he's got six home
1:00:17
runs. Again, this is in the month of
1:00:19
May. Six home runs, three stolen
1:00:21
bases and he has more walks and strikeouts at a 12:00 to 11:00.
1:00:26
Clip Yeah, the walk rate is absurd, dude.
1:00:33
This guy can do it all. MLB average walk percentage is
1:00:38
8.4. David Fries this year 17.2.
1:00:48
His on base percentage is what's most important about that.
1:00:52
That OBP, by the way. Yeah.
1:00:54
Or excuse me, the OPS it's 492. He's got a 492 on base
1:00:59
percentage. What I love, I watched some
1:01:04
clips dude, he's super simple. Oh yeah.
1:01:07
If you're a hitting nerd, I like I like the Super simple, just a
1:01:13
foot up, foot down kind of guy. See the ball he hit in in Coors.
1:01:19
I mean he's he's a stud. This was all I read that and
1:01:25
let's I'll hand up here. I'm not going to sit here and
1:01:27
just watch guardians games all day.
1:01:29
So I apologize if this is. The guards are hot, Nate.
1:01:34
The guards are hot. Maybe you should be watching
1:01:36
more guards games. I read that this is this
1:01:40
opportunity is mainly surrounded by the Stephen Quan absence, and
1:01:45
that's where he's gotten a lot of his starting time.
1:01:47
Well, that's what I'm saying. The guy plays.
1:01:49
The guy plays everywhere. I mean, let me, let me He.
1:01:53
Catches too, doesn't he? Yes, he I was going to say he
1:01:56
catches. I think I saw that he he made he
1:02:02
made an appearance on the mound. I think it was last year.
1:02:05
Let me make sure I got that right.
1:02:10
Yeah, main appearance on the mound last year.
1:02:15
This year he's caught, he's played left.
1:02:18
I think he served as the DH. He's played first, he's played
1:02:22
third. The guy can do it all, and last
1:02:33
I checked he's got just shy of 100 ABS 98.
1:02:36
You already mentioned the OBP at 492.
1:02:38
He's slugging 6/22 and an OPS of 11/15 with an OPS plus by the
1:02:43
way of 221. He's already he's already built
1:02:51
up a WAR this season of 1.7. This is crazy.
1:03:04
I don't get it. Where'd this guy come from?
1:03:09
Where do they find guys like this?
1:03:15
It's stuff like this that makes you wonder like, oh man, are the
1:03:19
guards just going to like, are the guards going to do something
1:03:23
this year? Where I mentioned it last
1:03:25
episode, we were talking about their nine game-winning streak
1:03:28
that I think ended abruptly after 9.
1:03:33
That the last time that they had a winning streak of that length,
1:03:39
it happened on I think 3 separate occasions in franchise
1:03:42
history. In each one of those years they
1:03:44
they advance to the World Series.
1:03:47
Yeah. So you take, you take little
1:03:49
Nuggets like that. You take this David Fry guy.
1:03:53
Maybe they're due. That comes up out of nowhere
1:03:56
seemingly, and just takes over for a couple week, really the
1:04:01
whole month of May thus far. And I don't know, man, those
1:04:07
sound like ingredients for another World Series run.
1:04:10
Not to get ahead of myself here. I know, I know we got a lot more
1:04:14
baseball off to play, but I'm in the I, I said it.
1:04:19
The guards are hot. I don't think this is a fluke,
1:04:23
man. I don't think this is a fluke.
1:04:27
Yeah, across the league is at 28.4% chase percentage.
1:04:35
He's at 19%. I love it, dude.
1:04:41
I love it. Is this the next Juan Soto?
1:04:45
Does my man just have the best eye in baseball?
1:04:49
Is he going to get a $600 million contract as a walk
1:04:54
merchant? Why not seventh round pick by
1:04:58
the Brewers in 2018? I love it, I love that.
1:05:07
How do you not root for this guy?
1:05:11
Well, maybe if you don't know about him.
1:05:15
I'm on board now. Now you're on board.
1:05:17
Now you're on board. Now we go.
1:05:19
Now we go. Now we go.
1:05:22
Now we ride. Now we go to the weekend series
1:05:26
to watch. I'm going to have my eye this
1:05:30
weekend on the Padres and Royals.
1:05:32
They're going to be in Kansas City for three games.
1:05:35
Game one, you got Dylan Seas going up against Michael Waka.
1:05:38
That should be a good one. 8:10 PM Eastern, Joe Musgrove versus
1:05:43
Alec Marshall on Saturday, that's 410 Eastern and Michael
1:05:48
King versus Cole Reagan's on Sunday for a 210 Eastern match
1:05:55
up. Maybe some good, some good arms
1:05:59
going this weekend. That's going to be some that's
1:06:01
going to be some good baseball. And I say that and I know it's
1:06:04
they're probably going to be 3 slugfests.
1:06:07
I'm sure that's usually how that goes.
1:06:09
But on paper at least, it looks like there should be some some
1:06:13
decent matchups if you're into respectable pitching.
1:06:20
I I'm excited to see where Bobby Witt puts a ball.
1:06:25
It's in Petco, yeah. No Kansas City.
1:06:30
Never mind. I'm less excited about that.
1:06:33
That's all right. That's cool.
1:06:36
Give me, give me Reds, Cubs. Nice little divisional match up.
1:06:42
We talked about it last time. Reds are starting to get rolling
1:06:44
a little bit. So game one we got Ashcraft
1:06:49
going against Assad. Game two is the one.
1:06:52
Game 2 is what you need to be locking in for.
1:06:55
It's on Fox on Saturday, 4:15 Pacific.
1:07:00
That's the time that matters. Hunter Green.
1:07:04
Hunter green against Justin Steele.
1:07:08
Yeah, that's the that's the one. And then the Lidolo against
1:07:12
Brown on Sunday. Let's go Reds.
1:07:19
Get it rolling. Get it rolling.
1:07:26
Some good ball this weekend we were talking about before we
1:07:28
hopped on. There's some even outside of
1:07:30
those two match ups, there's some some pretty good pairings
1:07:34
this weekend so. Yeah, if you're a classic
1:07:37
baseball match up type fan, Yankees in in San Francisco,
1:07:43
it's always fun. You know, we'll have the classic
1:07:48
teams playing against each other.
1:07:49
Love that, love it. You got anything else?
1:07:54
Yeah, real fast. I don't know what this is, but I
1:07:57
know it's going to be some time before we talk about it again.
1:08:02
I think this all has happened within the last like 20-30
1:08:05
minutes. Jorge Lopez just got DFA D by
1:08:09
the Mets. Apparently he threw his glove.
1:08:13
Oh yeah, he got tossed today. I should have included this in
1:08:16
our rundown. It got tossed today.
1:08:20
Oh what? And just launched his glove into
1:08:25
the crowd. I have to think that this is
1:08:29
unrelated, right? It just it was a.
1:08:38
What do you mean unrelated? Well, like, was it?
1:08:43
Did he? You're gonna tell me he got DFH
1:08:46
solely because of the the glove toss?
1:08:49
I think so. We've seen some guys do some
1:08:53
pretty stupid stuff before. Like what?
1:08:55
My man's jersey is untucked. I told you we're we're.
1:08:59
Done hat falls off as he's throwing the glove and leaves it
1:09:03
there. This is a tough look.
1:09:11
I told you I've said this before.
1:09:14
The Mets are it's it's not just about like them being bad.
1:09:20
This is like a. This is deeper than that.
1:09:24
Hold up. This is like.
1:09:28
Hold on, there's some some developments in the chat that
1:09:32
are really, really revealing. Oh, hold on.
1:09:41
OK, this makes sense. The meds.
1:09:48
Fox Sports MLB on Twitter The Mets will DFA Jorge Lopez
1:09:53
tomorrow, per per Martini Want to see Andy Martino after
1:09:59
throwing his glove into the stands after getting ejected
1:10:04
today? He said the Mets are the worst
1:10:06
team in the whole effing MLB in a post game interview.
1:10:17
Oh my goodness. So I think it's all all a part
1:10:22
of the equation. Dang dude, what is this true?
1:10:36
He said if they want me back here tomorrow, I'll be here, but
1:10:38
I don't care. Did he actually say that?
1:10:40
There's no way he said that. Oh my, this is the last.
1:10:48
I mean, I guess if he literally called the Mets the worst team
1:10:51
in baseball, I wouldn't put it past him, but Oh my goodness,
1:10:57
that's. What I was going to say, I
1:10:59
remember him being a reliever in Baltimore.
1:11:02
You know, honestly though, good on him dude.
1:11:04
Like, you know, somebody's going to pick him up, but what a way
1:11:07
to just get out of. Town no shot.
1:11:11
Absolutely. Somebody's going to pick him up.
1:11:13
Are you kidding me, dude? No shot.
1:11:16
He wanted to get out of No, he wanted to get out of Queen.
1:11:19
We have. We have guys in this league that
1:11:22
have abused women. Like he tossed his glove in the
1:11:25
crowd. Let spare me that.
1:11:27
Nobody's going to be there. Isn't going to be.
1:11:30
He's not going to pick them up. That combined with the comments,
1:11:33
no, he's done. Come on.
1:11:37
Wasn't even that bad. 312 ERA, 26 innings.
1:11:48
Unbelievable. 122 ERA plus he's done.
1:11:56
There's no way. Nah, somebody's going to pick
1:12:00
him up. Not this year.
1:12:05
Apparently when they asked him to clarify, he double downed.
1:12:08
Yes, you give me that. Wow, I cannot like.
1:12:19
I know I literally just got done saying that like there are guys
1:12:21
in this league that have abused women.
1:12:22
They still get picked up by teams.
1:12:24
But like I and I'm not saying that this is worse, but I just
1:12:27
can't fathom in a post game presser saying like you are
1:12:31
still employed by the team saying that, yeah, I play for
1:12:36
the worst team of baseball. Not in like a, not in like a, a
1:12:42
frustrated way. It, it, I mean, I need to watch
1:12:46
it cause a video like it's just now circulated.
1:12:48
So I haven't had a chance to watch it yet.
1:12:50
But based on the things that I'm seeing that he said, it just
1:12:54
sounds vindictive where it's like this wasn't just like an
1:12:58
owl man. I, I put my foot in my mouth
1:13:01
like tomorrow he's not going to come up.
1:13:02
Like I I messed up like now this guy.
1:13:05
Yeah, he's done a little. Bit of pent up.
1:13:09
He's out, dude, I tell. That's what I'm saying, dude.
1:13:11
There's something wrong. The organization is like,
1:13:15
everyone is like a toddler. Everyone is acting like a
1:13:20
toddler. Calls don't go their way.
1:13:25
Like, I understand like frustration, but yeah.
1:13:29
Quote is confirmed, he said. I'll be ready to be here
1:13:32
tomorrow if they want me to be here.
1:13:36
Oh man, wow, I'm glad you caught that.
1:13:40
I, I just saw him toss the glove in the crowd and I was like, OK,
1:13:43
like we've seen guys toss batting gloves, whatever, but
1:13:46
Yikes, I did not see all this. It's a tough look, Oh, that's
1:13:52
for sure. I don't think he's back this
1:13:55
year. I don't think anyone's picking
1:13:56
him up. Somebody posted on Reddit a
1:13:58
picture of the glove. He's like my buddy caught Jorge
1:14:00
Lopez's glove. What a what a circus this is.
1:14:07
Different, That's a different move right there, because
1:14:10
pitchers, it's not like pitchers have multiple gloves.
1:14:13
Like they're not. Most guys don't like break in
1:14:16
multiple gloves at a time the way position players do.
1:14:18
My man's going to have to get a new glove.
1:14:24
That's a tough look, dude. Just like competitor wise, I
1:14:27
would, I mean, if if I had a high school kid do that on my
1:14:31
team, you, you can, you can bet he's gone.
1:14:38
But all of them, all of them have acted that way this year.
1:14:41
All of them, the whole clubhouse has acted similarly.
1:14:46
There's something seriously wrong with this organization.
1:14:52
It's not just losing, it's it's a lot.
1:14:55
More Blow it up, blow it up. My goodness, what a circus the
1:15:01
New York Mets are. All right.
1:15:05
Well, I guess now we can put this episode to bed.
1:15:11
I'm glad we got that in. Man.
1:15:13
That was. I was not expecting that.
1:15:16
Yeah, we're not going to wait four days to talk about that.
1:15:19
Damn. What a what a way to go out if
1:15:25
this is it, Jorge Lopez, What a career.
1:15:30
What a career. Not really but now somebody
1:15:35
somebody's going to pick him up. I would say let's make it let's
1:15:37
let's bet on it, but I'm currently still serving I'm only
1:15:42
I'm only two games into this 14 game punishment with this with
1:15:47
this outfit I'm wearing so I'll. Happily, happily make a wager
1:15:52
here. I can't do it just yet.
1:15:57
We got to got to get a little bit deeper into this current.
1:16:00
I bet that I'm I'm paying off as we speak.
1:16:02
Anyway, that'll about do it. You got anything else?
1:16:06
No, let's get out of here. I'll go chasing curveballs,
1:16:09
everybody. We love you all and as always,
1:16:10
looking forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
1:16:12
Until next time, stay filthy.