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- 0:02Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
- 0:05Speaker 1: Ignition with the AAW Fat Hub podcast team. We've got
- 0:11Speaker 1: Revolution coming up on Sunday, right, it's Sunday this week,
- 0:16Speaker 1: not Saturday. And we will be doing our Revolution previewer
- 0:21Speaker 1: prediction show tomorrow night on All Eak Talk, So be
- 0:24Speaker 1: sure to join us for that and if you have predictions,
- 0:28Speaker 1: come on Discord, go into the Ignition All Leak Talk
- 0:32Speaker 1: channel and join us. Make your predictions. Don't be shy.
- 0:36Speaker 1: But right now we're going to talk about some hot
- 0:38Speaker 1: topics in a w Let's kick this off. This is Kelson.
- 0:43Speaker 2: This is Shane Dee over here. Kelson, Dude, the Road
- 0:47Speaker 2: to Revolution? Dude? Is there enough going on in this
- 0:51Speaker 2: in AW programming to suck you into paying for the
- 0:54Speaker 2: pay per view next this on Sunday? You know what?
- 0:58Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah there is. I was a little worried about
- 1:00Speaker 1: it a couple of weeks ago, but right now I
- 1:03Speaker 1: think they're they've got it pretty much handled. You know,
- 1:07Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, Shane, do you think that
- 1:09Speaker 1: have you noticed that there's more matches for this this
- 1:13Speaker 1: pay per view that it seemed for they've had for
- 1:15Speaker 1: like the last two pay per views, they kind of
- 1:18Speaker 1: seemed a little light. This one's kind of stacked.
- 1:21Speaker 2: This is far call you, yeah, this is an old
- 1:24Speaker 2: school aw pay per view. Man, We're getting a nice
- 1:26Speaker 2: five hour banger starts at seven, we'll see at twelve thirty,
- 1:29Speaker 2: you know, and then we'll get two hours of press
- 1:31Speaker 2: conference after that, which is you know. I in terms
- 1:35Speaker 2: of this specific pay per view with I think that's
- 1:38Speaker 2: a good thing. Honestly, they have a lot of things
- 1:40Speaker 2: to put a lid on. There are a lot of
- 1:42Speaker 2: stories that they that they're developing in tandem. I'm really
- 1:45Speaker 2: I think the thing that the what I'm really most
- 1:48Speaker 2: excited for on this pay per view is MJF versus
- 1:51Speaker 2: Adam Adam Paige. Hangman at him Paige. You know, with
- 1:54Speaker 2: everything that's going on with MJF on the side, how
- 1:57Speaker 2: he's like really placating into this anti a e W story.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Had that tattoo on the notice that you can't see
- 2:04Speaker 2: me on camera wearing my hoodie, but like I'm throwing
- 2:07Speaker 2: up the quotations the the tattoo he had removed. Do
- 2:10Speaker 2: you think that tattoo is actually real? Kelson?
- 2:13Speaker 1: I think the tattoo is actually real. I just think
- 2:15Speaker 1: that they removed it from the wrong leg.
- 2:24Speaker 3: I think it was fake.
- 2:26Speaker 1: You know what, we have Max, Max, So we're gonna
- 2:28Speaker 1: send you out to MGS house so you can try
- 2:30Speaker 1: to lick it off. What about that?
- 2:33Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, maybe I
- 2:37Speaker 3: could go over on Friday because we're both Jewish, so.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Oh yeah, celebrate the Sabbath. The do you roll on? Shavis?
- 2:48Speaker 2: It's a joke. Don't don't don't. I'm not trying to.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Just piss off bas.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Fun fact that my mom's Jewish with me. My mom's
- 3:03Speaker 2: half Jewish, which means I'm like twenty five percent Jewish,
- 3:05Speaker 2: so I could get away with jokes like that.
- 3:08Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one we have.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean, like, but there is a lot
- 3:13Speaker 2: that they're really feeding into this pay per view, and
- 3:15Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see if they're gonna, like, I
- 3:20Speaker 2: think the thing, let's talk about the most negative thing,
- 3:23Speaker 2: which is probably the most important thing on the pay
- 3:25Speaker 2: per view, like Cope and Cope and and uh, I
- 3:30Speaker 2: can't even get it out seriously because I'm just I'm
- 3:34Speaker 2: burnt out on the whole Death Riders thing, the COPE
- 3:36Speaker 2: and mox it can we finally put a lid on this?
- 3:40Speaker 1: Like?
- 3:40Speaker 3: Is that?
- 3:41Speaker 2: Is that gonna happen? Now? Are we going to drop
- 3:42Speaker 2: the Do you think that they're gonna take the liberties
- 3:44Speaker 2: with storytelling to drop the belt off of Cope and
- 3:47Speaker 2: what implication or drop the belt off of Mox in
- 3:50Speaker 2: favor of Cope and what implications would that have on
- 3:52Speaker 2: storytelling in the future for aw, I don't think it's
- 3:55Speaker 2: gonna happen. I think that mox is going to help
- 3:57Speaker 2: hold this belt until all in.
- 3:59Speaker 3: But Shame, what you gotta understand is you remember Christian's involvement.
- 4:03Speaker 3: Christian Cage has the briefcase of the contract you go,
- 4:08Speaker 3: you gotta keep that in mind and you know their history,
- 4:12Speaker 3: so that that opens up a new can of worms.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Yeah, you know when it comes to this match, Shane,
- 4:18Speaker 1: when it comes to the Cope and Moxley match, hey,
- 4:21Speaker 1: I got the names out. I'm more looking forward to
- 4:26Speaker 1: what happens after the match and see if Christian gets involved.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Maybe Luciasaurus comes back, you know, you know, to throw
- 4:36Speaker 1: his uh horn I guess, and the horns into the ring.
- 4:41Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh. I am not as down on
- 4:45Speaker 1: this match as I was previously, but I'm still not
- 4:49Speaker 1: really interested in it. You know, it's one of those
- 4:51Speaker 1: I'll watch with one eye close, the one eye half open.
- 4:56Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, God, no.
- 5:00Speaker 3: What I'm saying, like, I can't I can agree with that,
- 5:02Speaker 3: Like they're part you're gonna watch when I open exactly
- 5:06Speaker 3: because part of mezings Moxy is gonna keep title and
- 5:10Speaker 3: this is gonna drag out for much more longer or
- 5:15Speaker 3: and Copea is gonna win, Christian's gonna come out cash
- 5:20Speaker 3: in and and that's gonna be your built towards whatever's
- 5:24Speaker 3: after revulsion.
- 5:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but Shane, you said that the match
- 5:32Speaker 1: that you were looking forward to the most was MJF
- 5:35Speaker 1: and Hangman and the Page.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, now we know that my old hub persona
- 5:41Speaker 2: used to be uh whearing the uh the scarf, my
- 5:46Speaker 2: my triple B scarf. Yeah, I'm excited for this match.
- 5:48Speaker 2: I mean that there's a lot going on in terms
- 5:51Speaker 2: of like what they could be doing. Well, a lot
- 5:53Speaker 2: of people, a lot of AW fans consider Adam Page
- 5:56Speaker 2: to be like the hero of a w He's aw
- 6:01Speaker 2: Sina And we're not talking about the heel turn, at
- 6:04Speaker 2: least not right now. You know, you know, like like
- 6:07Speaker 2: Adam Page is like the final boss of AW A
- 6:11Speaker 2: lot of AW fans considered that to be. And then
- 6:12Speaker 2: then MJF had that big come up and last year
- 6:16Speaker 2: where they faced him, and and then and he went
- 6:19Speaker 2: baby face as hell, and and you know there's a
- 6:22Speaker 2: lot all the implication as to like what they're gonna
- 6:25Speaker 2: do with his with MJF. Like, like Adam Page, we
- 6:29Speaker 2: know where he's gonna end up. He's gonna have this
- 6:30Speaker 2: title again, maybe not this year. I don't think he's
- 6:33Speaker 2: headed towards Mox or Cope or whoever retains the title.
- 6:36Speaker 2: But like, I think there's a lot to be said
- 6:39Speaker 2: about what could happen with MJF if he wins end
- 6:44Speaker 2: or loses. I mean, like this is not a swerve
- 6:46Speaker 2: of Strickland Adam Page situation where like there's no clear winner,
- 6:50Speaker 2: you know. So, uh, I'm very excited for this match.
- 6:53Speaker 2: It's gonna be an It's gonna be a spectacle.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Yeah. Well let me ask you, uh, what match on
- 7:03Speaker 1: Revolution are you looking forward to the most and which
- 7:06Speaker 1: one are you maybe not looking forward to.
- 7:11Speaker 3: I can tell you as a matter of factor, I
- 7:13Speaker 3: am not looking forward do anything involving John Maxwe at
- 7:17Speaker 3: this time, so that's the word. Title match is obviously
- 7:21Speaker 3: not on my to watch list. But I am looking
- 7:24Speaker 3: forward to hang Man Versus and Jeff I'll tell you
- 7:27Speaker 3: that that I think it's going to be a barn burner.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. Uh that well, that has joined us.
- 7:35Speaker 1: What about you? What match revolution? Are you looking forward
- 7:38Speaker 1: to the most? What match?
- 7:40Speaker 3: Maybe?
- 7:41Speaker 1: Are you not looking forward to?
- 7:45Speaker 4: Hi, everybody, I'm looking forward to Tony Storm, Mariah May
- 7:54Speaker 4: quite a bit, and I don't want to see anything
- 7:56Speaker 4: with the Death Riders. So yeah, that's right.
- 8:02Speaker 1: We'll let me answer that question myself. I think I
- 8:06Speaker 1: have to admit I think I am looking forward to
- 8:09Speaker 1: the most Tony Storm and Mariah May. I really do
- 8:15Speaker 1: think that that's going to be something. I mean, Hollywood
- 8:18Speaker 1: ending no holds barred, no disqualification, can only uh no countouts,
- 8:24Speaker 1: could only end by pinfall or submission, I believe, is
- 8:29Speaker 1: what the stipulation is the match that I'm looking forward
- 8:33Speaker 1: to the least, I've got to say, it's probably the
- 8:36Speaker 1: match that doesn't make the most amount of sense to me,
- 8:39Speaker 1: and that's the Hurt Syndicate against the Outrunners. What I
- 8:44Speaker 1: just I mean it. That just seems like the match
- 8:50Speaker 1: that was thrown in there to give the Hurt Syndicates
- 8:53Speaker 1: something to do.
- 8:56Speaker 2: This is the Hurt Syndicate's first actual title defense, so
- 8:59Speaker 2: it's I don't think they're about the popcorn the tag
- 9:02Speaker 2: team titles around. I'd you know they're paying Bobby Lashley
- 9:06Speaker 2: and before before we want to decide to expand, I
- 9:10Speaker 2: actually they're paying lash two million a year. He's making
- 9:15Speaker 2: one point two million above what he was making at
- 9:17Speaker 2: WO he was making it eight hundred thousand year. I
- 9:19Speaker 2: trust me. I looked all of this up because I'm
- 9:20Speaker 2: a psychopath, like, I don't think they're Yeah, I don't
- 9:23Speaker 2: think they're just gonna strap Yeah, it's it. Yeah, I
- 9:27Speaker 2: have a problem. It's an addiction, the first step, right.
- 9:32Speaker 2: I don't think that they're they're gonna put so much
- 9:35Speaker 2: work into pumping up the Hurt Syndicate and then drop
- 9:39Speaker 2: the belts off of them to the Outrunners. The match.
- 9:42Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say the match doesn't make sense because
- 9:44Speaker 2: the Outrunners are over as hell. People love them. They're
- 9:47Speaker 2: very nostalgic, they're very classic wrestling. I know that's a
- 9:50Speaker 2: split crowd with Outrunners. You know, a lot of people
- 9:53Speaker 2: don't understand, but a lot of people that watch wrestling
- 9:55Speaker 2: get it. I would love to see the tag team
- 9:57Speaker 2: titles on my guy, I.
- 10:00Speaker 3: Get it reminds me of old school territory wrestling brings
- 10:07Speaker 3: it brings me back to mid South, like Mid South Georgia, Memphis,
- 10:13Speaker 3: all that good stuff. That's what I am reminded of
- 10:17Speaker 3: from the Outrunners. I'm remind of old school Jim Crockett.
- 10:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to.
- 10:23Speaker 3: I want to steal them with a run so bad.
- 10:26Speaker 2: It's definitely Southern territories. But I don't think it's their time.
- 10:29Speaker 2: I think that this is going to be a filler match,
- 10:32Speaker 2: And I'm curious, like, are they using this as a
- 10:36Speaker 2: platform to bring another tag team in? Are they gonna
- 10:38Speaker 2: drop the there's gonna is there gonna be interferences?
- 10:40Speaker 1: What point? Well, we'll talk more about that, you know,
- 10:47Speaker 1: on the uh, the preview show tomorrow night. I want
- 10:51Speaker 1: to get into more, like too much into it. Other
- 10:56Speaker 1: than that, I mean, I get the Outrunners. Do I
- 11:00Speaker 1: like the Outrunners? Even though I get them?
- 11:02Speaker 2: No, Oh, come on?
- 11:05Speaker 1: They I loved their Everything they do outside of the
- 11:10Speaker 1: ring I think is fun. Once you get them inside
- 11:13Speaker 1: the ring. It's it's kind of embarrassing to me. I'm
- 11:18Speaker 1: embarrassed to watch them because they're awful.
- 11:21Speaker 2: What what was that? Max? Maybe you could help me
- 11:24Speaker 2: out here. Remember when FTR was an NXT the Revival?
- 11:27Speaker 2: What was that T shirt? No fancy flips, just just
- 11:31Speaker 2: face punching or something like that.
- 11:34Speaker 3: Flips, just fist. I remember I had that shirt. I
- 11:40Speaker 3: had that shirt and I I ripped it like a whole,
- 11:44Speaker 3: like I was Hogan, I remember, like in high school.
- 11:48Speaker 3: But if I ripped it of anger.
- 11:52Speaker 2: That that's the Outrunners though. I mean, you're getting you're
- 11:54Speaker 2: getting You're nostal just a drug and that's packaged and
- 11:58Speaker 2: sold to us in professional wrestling on a regular basis.
- 12:02Speaker 2: And I don't think there's a better example of that
- 12:05Speaker 2: than the out Runners currently. I mean, like they even
- 12:07Speaker 2: got they even got to do it in the in
- 12:09Speaker 2: the Faction or or the tag team that has Hogan's
- 12:12Speaker 2: SKULLT I mean.
- 12:13Speaker 3: God, oh god, poor timing.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Of that well. I mean, uh, if we're not going
- 12:20Speaker 2: to talk about I mean like the Road to Revolution.
- 12:22Speaker 2: You know what's next on the card, my friend? You know, uh, you.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Know the question was that you posed earlier. Was has
- 12:32Speaker 1: aw done enough to promote this thing? As far as
- 12:35Speaker 1: with their stories and the matches that they've set up,
- 12:39Speaker 1: I think they did. You know what about you, Nett?
- 12:41Speaker 1: Do you think that they had a good setup for this?
- 12:46Speaker 4: I think they have a pretty good setup. But I
- 12:50Speaker 4: can see a difference as a fan about how excited
- 12:56Speaker 4: I have been before for some of their pay perviews
- 13:01Speaker 4: versus how excited I am for this one. And while
- 13:05Speaker 4: I'm I want to see it because I love a
- 13:08Speaker 4: lot of the wrestlers that will be performing, I'm not
- 13:11Speaker 4: that amped up about it.
- 13:14Speaker 1: So well, look, you know what, I've been less than
- 13:17Speaker 1: I've been less than amped for pay per views in
- 13:21Speaker 1: the past. Yeah, they've not disappointed me, except for Forbid Door.
- 13:28Speaker 4: I don't think I'll be disappointed. I'm just I'm just
- 13:31Speaker 4: not reaching that level of excitement yet. So maybe something
- 13:36Speaker 4: will happen tomorrow night that will really push it over
- 13:40Speaker 4: and you know, go, we'll get there. Maybe we'll have
- 13:43Speaker 4: an Eddie Kingston appearance, so you know, I know, Tellson.
- 13:55Speaker 3: Like to change my answer for the man I'm most
- 13:58Speaker 3: looking forward to Let's go man, I'm actually looking forward
- 14:02Speaker 3: to Mariah Tony Oh, there you go, because no, because
- 14:10Speaker 3: I think I think Mina is gonna come back and
- 14:13Speaker 3: we're gonna see some Mina share Coller involvement.
- 14:16Speaker 1: So let's move on. We've got some interesting stuff going
- 14:20Speaker 1: on in a w Ray Phoenix was released from his contract.
- 14:24Speaker 1: He's no longer on the AW roster page. It's obvious
- 14:28Speaker 1: that he's going to WWE to reform. The Lucha Brothers
- 14:34Speaker 1: also interested to see if they can call themselves the
- 14:36Speaker 1: Lucher Brothers. But uh, on top of that, we've got
- 14:42Speaker 1: Layla Hirsh that is no longer with a w So
- 14:46Speaker 1: I want to talk about both of these. We'll start
- 14:49Speaker 1: with the Lucher Brothers. As a WWE fan, you probably
- 14:57Speaker 1: don't know a lot about the Luca Brothers other than
- 14:59Speaker 1: we you've seen from Penta. What do you guys think
- 15:03Speaker 1: that w w WE fans can expect from the Luca
- 15:08Speaker 1: brothers when they get back together.
- 15:13Speaker 2: You know, Kelson, they need a Ray, They need a
- 15:15Speaker 2: Raymisterio replacement, because you know this is the Raymisterio is
- 15:19Speaker 2: another old timer that's on his victory lap of retirement tours.
- 15:24Speaker 2: You know he's done. He said, I got a year left.
- 15:26Speaker 2: That's what he said. So they so you get two
- 15:30Speaker 2: for the price of one, but you get two Lucador's
- 15:33Speaker 2: who are just as skilled as Raymistereo. The real question is,
- 15:37Speaker 2: you know, are you able to elevate both of these
- 15:40Speaker 2: guys to the accolades that the one man did on
- 15:44Speaker 2: his own? Do you need to do you need to
- 15:46Speaker 2: put these guys together? I mean can I think it'd
- 15:49Speaker 2: be more compelling to have Phoenix versus Penta, brother against brother,
- 15:54Speaker 2: you know, and yeah, I mean Penta on his in
- 16:01Speaker 2: Luca Underground had some of the most incredible and brutal
- 16:06Speaker 2: matches that we've seen pro wrestling. Repulsa kill uh kill shod.
- 16:11Speaker 2: I mean like some of the things that he did
- 16:13Speaker 2: in Luca Underground hadn't been seen in pro wrestling ever,
- 16:17Speaker 2: and and all of his own device. Penta himself is
- 16:20Speaker 2: a pro wrestling auditor. I I would like to see
- 16:23Speaker 2: him flourish on his own. I'm not gonna say that
- 16:27Speaker 2: he's been misappropriated in w w EE as of now.
- 16:30Speaker 2: I don't want to see him fall into the same
- 16:33Speaker 2: line as other Luca doors and they stick him in
- 16:35Speaker 2: affection with a bunch of other latinos. I want to
- 16:37Speaker 2: see him out there on his own.
- 16:41Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on the spot a little bit, Shane.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Do you prefer Do you prefer Penta over Phoenix, or
- 16:48Speaker 1: Phoenix over Penta.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Or I'm channeling my inner in dreezy? Uh, what's up, bro?
- 16:56Speaker 2: Like I prefer Penta straight up. I think he between
- 17:00Speaker 2: the two of them is well, He's He's more tenured
- 17:03Speaker 2: for sure. You know, Phoenix is the younger brother with
- 17:06Speaker 2: the younger brother syndrome. I think that Penta has done
- 17:09Speaker 2: way more. I think he is way more skilled. I
- 17:12Speaker 2: think he's developed his kill character a lot stronger. I
- 17:16Speaker 2: think that if you're gonna put them together, it's only
- 17:18Speaker 2: gonna beat that. Phoenix is going to be a crutch
- 17:21Speaker 2: on him, you know, Like I like, let these guys
- 17:24Speaker 2: go off and do that thing. Let let's get two
- 17:26Speaker 2: ray mystereos. Let's not have one flowing around the ether
- 17:29Speaker 2: in the WWE universe. Let's get two guys out there
- 17:33Speaker 2: just as skilled, you know, battling for the same thing.
- 17:37Speaker 2: Luchador Supremacy. These are two of the best professional wrestlers
- 17:40Speaker 2: on Earth and two of the best lucadors in the game.
- 17:42Speaker 2: Just to me, one of them is better than the other.
- 17:45Speaker 2: So this my opinion.
- 17:48Speaker 1: Well, let's go to net Nett. I mean, you can
- 17:51Speaker 1: answer the same two questions, what do you think that
- 17:55Speaker 1: ww fan should expect from the Luca brothers and who
- 18:00Speaker 1: do you prefer? Do you prefer Pentho or do you
- 18:03Speaker 1: prefer Phoenix.
- 18:07Speaker 4: I think the fans can expect a lot of uh
- 18:11Speaker 4: great things out of them. They're fantastic wrestlers separately and together.
- 18:18Speaker 4: I personally prefer Penta over Ray. I think Penta is
- 18:27Speaker 4: I mean, pretty pretty darn perfect as a wrestler. I
- 18:32Speaker 4: hope that they don't get underutilized and just you know,
- 18:39Speaker 4: go all the way through WWE. I think there's there's
- 18:43Speaker 4: a lot to work with there.
- 18:45Speaker 2: So yeah, I think the worst thing that can happen
- 18:48Speaker 2: to the Lucher brothers, oh Penta specifically, is that they
- 18:52Speaker 2: try to sell him as a rare masterial replacement and
- 18:55Speaker 2: not put him up to do his own thing, and
- 18:57Speaker 2: then they pair him every Phoenix and it's just not
- 19:02Speaker 2: marketable to the WWE universe, and they end up in
- 19:05Speaker 2: NXT and they're done in two years. I don't want
- 19:07Speaker 2: to see that. I want to see these guys over
- 19:09Speaker 2: as hell. I mean wherever they're at. I mean, like,
- 19:12Speaker 2: this is a situation where it just doesn't matter where
- 19:15Speaker 2: these guys are at or you know what banner they
- 19:18Speaker 2: fly that they're going to be great wherever they're at.
- 19:21Speaker 2: We just want to see them over as hell. So
- 19:23Speaker 2: I'm hoping that's the case for them.
- 19:25Speaker 5: Well, Shane, you've already seen by the way, Hi, I
- 19:29Speaker 5: just joined the podcast.
- 19:30Speaker 2: Rob's breaking through the steel cage door like that. What's up?
- 19:35Speaker 5: Yes, But I mean, Dane, you've are seen like there
- 19:41Speaker 5: was a ton of hype around Penta when like they
- 19:46Speaker 5: were doing those video packages for his impending arrival, and
- 19:50Speaker 5: the crowd has absolutely loved him since he's made his
- 19:56Speaker 5: debut and he's had these matches with Pete Gun and
- 20:01Speaker 5: Lude vig Kaiser and some of the other guys he's
- 20:04Speaker 5: fought so far.
- 20:09Speaker 3: Table that match was so good.
- 20:12Speaker 2: Listen to us. We're we're a group of ae W
- 20:14Speaker 2: fans and an a W fan hub fawning over w
- 20:17Speaker 2: W E media. This is new for this podcast.
- 20:20Speaker 5: Yeah, very With the news that Ray missed or I'm
- 20:26Speaker 5: sorry Ray Fannix is been released from a W, I
- 20:31Speaker 5: wouldn't be surprised if he joins up with Uh Penta
- 20:35Speaker 5: n w w E and get me the Lucha Brothers
- 20:41Speaker 5: versus The New Day at Russell Maya.
- 20:43Speaker 1: That match would.
- 20:44Speaker 2: Fuck no dude, Why why put him with the New Day?
- 20:49Speaker 2: That send him the dude? Put him a d y
- 20:51Speaker 2: put him what? No, no, no, no, we're trying to
- 21:00Speaker 2: put these guys over. We're not. We're not trying to
- 21:03Speaker 2: squash them.
- 21:04Speaker 3: They're gonna face each other. They're gonna face each other.
- 21:07Speaker 5: No d I wise in a feud with like the
- 21:11Speaker 5: Street profits in most guards and pretty deadly. That's giving
- 21:17Speaker 5: like a multiman match at WrestleMania.
- 21:24Speaker 3: Sorry, they're gonna have a t match.
- 21:31Speaker 2: Well, one thing I will say that it's it's really
- 21:35Speaker 2: nice to see that they're allowing U Penta to hit
- 21:38Speaker 2: that Canadian destroy as many times as he wants to
- 21:41Speaker 2: during matches like that. That wasn't a w w E
- 21:45Speaker 2: thing until Penta was gracing our TV screens on Netflix.
- 21:50Speaker 1: Well, Max, let me ask you, as a w w
- 21:53Speaker 1: E fan yourself, Uh what uh? What are your impressions
- 21:58Speaker 1: are are you familiar with the Lucha Brothers as a team,
- 22:02Speaker 1: and what are your impressions of the two of them?
- 22:05Speaker 1: And what do you want to see them doing.
- 22:08Speaker 3: Okay, I've I actually went and looked at like Pento
- 22:12Speaker 3: matches from Luca Underground, because I've seen some of those matches.
- 22:17Speaker 3: I've seen Penta and l U. I've seen Phoenix and
- 22:21Speaker 3: l U, and I've seen what Penta has been doing
- 22:25Speaker 3: on WW programming that being raw, and I'm very happy
- 22:30Speaker 3: with what I'm seeing. They're they're letting him, you know,
- 22:33Speaker 3: hit his spots, They're letting him hit his moves, his signatures,
- 22:36Speaker 3: They're letting him And let's go back to any debut.
- 22:39Speaker 3: The crowd knew what Sierra medio and that that was awesome.
- 22:44Speaker 3: It got a pop and and I just want to
- 22:48Speaker 3: say that on Rod the other night, there was a
- 22:51Speaker 3: segment with Chad Gable, who's ASO said, in a feud
- 22:55Speaker 3: with Penta, and ched Gable was given a BOS and
- 23:01Speaker 3: I have good reason to suspect that that box contains
- 23:05Speaker 3: some regarding to Phoenix that he's gonna bring. They're gonna
- 23:09Speaker 3: bring Phoenix in the counter Penta. It's gonna be great.
- 23:14Speaker 1: YEA. Well, really briefly for me, uh as I haven't
- 23:18Speaker 1: given my opinion yet. Uh As far as Luca Brothers go,
- 23:23Speaker 1: I you know, how could you not like them. I mean,
- 23:26Speaker 1: they're really good personally. I prefer Phoenix over Penta, not
- 23:30Speaker 1: by much. I think they're both fantastic. I can't say
- 23:34Speaker 1: that one is greater than the other when you look
- 23:37Speaker 1: at them. I look at them as Phoenix's well. Penta
- 23:41Speaker 1: is more of the brawler of the two, where Phoenix
- 23:45Speaker 1: is more of the bump taker. And I really like
- 23:49Speaker 1: the bump takers. I mean, somebody that can take a
- 23:52Speaker 1: bump is good. Now, Phoenix could arguably sell bumps better because, yeah,
- 23:59Speaker 1: he gets get injured a lot. That's my worry with Phoenix. Now.
- 24:03Speaker 1: He hasn't wrestled, I believe in six months for a
- 24:07Speaker 1: w so hopefully anything that was ailing him is now
- 24:11Speaker 1: fully healed and he's ripped and ready to go when
- 24:14Speaker 1: he does arrive in a in WWE. Uh, And I
- 24:17Speaker 1: wish him the best of luck. Have I seen Panther
- 24:21Speaker 1: wrestle in WWE.
- 24:23Speaker 2: No, he don't want.
- 24:27Speaker 1: I don't watch well. I figured, you know, I've seen
- 24:30Speaker 1: comments saying somebody said, why why is he doing the
- 24:35Speaker 1: coke zero thing seventy five thousand times a match? You know,
- 24:40Speaker 1: and that I think that's I don't know if he's
- 24:45Speaker 1: toned it down since he started in WWE, but uh, yeah,
- 24:50Speaker 1: I mean wrestling fans are critical that way, and if
- 24:54Speaker 1: you overdo something, you overdo it, you know, And he
- 24:58Speaker 1: overdid it in a w He's going to probably overdo
- 25:01Speaker 1: it in WWE. It's going to be over for some people,
- 25:04Speaker 1: most people, but it's going to get on some people's nerves,
- 25:08Speaker 1: just like you know, you know, my favorite yoga instructor,
- 25:12Speaker 1: Eddie Kingston, gets on my nerves sometimes, but I love him.
- 25:17Speaker 1: Let's move on to Layla. Hershoe did not renew her
- 25:20Speaker 1: contract at aw Ring of honor. She was specifically a
- 25:24Speaker 1: Ring of honor. This one is interesting to me. I
- 25:27Speaker 1: can't wait to hear what people think. Remember, her partner
- 25:30Speaker 1: is Diamante, I believe right, So she is still Diamante
- 25:35Speaker 1: is still with the company as far as I know.
- 25:39Speaker 1: And yeah, so where do where would you put legitate
- 25:49Speaker 1: on hersh I'm kind of at a loss here. What
- 25:53Speaker 1: do you think?
- 25:55Speaker 2: Uh, I'm not trying to get canceled, but and you're
- 26:04Speaker 2: welcome to cut this from the pot after I say it,
- 26:07Speaker 2: because when I saw that Laila Hirsch was leaving, I
- 26:10Speaker 2: thought it and now I'm gonna say it on loud
- 26:12Speaker 2: behind a microphone, but she'd probably be pretty good for
- 26:16Speaker 2: the micro Brawling Pro Wrestling League, might be where she
- 26:25Speaker 2: ends up hanging out with Hornswoggle. I don't know. Leila
- 26:29Speaker 2: Hirsh is wildly talented and she's gonna I think that
- 26:32Speaker 2: she's going to tour the indies. I do not see
- 26:35Speaker 2: her heading into the I do not see her heading
- 26:39Speaker 2: into the WWE infrastructure, and that probably will be a
- 26:43Speaker 2: good thing for her. And we don't know why she
- 26:45Speaker 2: hasn't resigned. We don't know, well, like well, all we
- 26:48Speaker 2: know is that she didn't resign. That's it. That's the
- 26:51Speaker 2: only information. Why jump to conclusions. I mean, like, we
- 26:55Speaker 2: know where Phoenix is heading, we know where Malachi Black
- 26:58Speaker 2: is heading. It just it was just literally this week
- 27:01Speaker 2: leak that he's headed back to WWE, and no one
- 27:04Speaker 2: is surprised, you know, But Laila Hirsh, you know, anywhere
- 27:07Speaker 2: she's gonna go, she's gonna be a rock star because
- 27:09Speaker 2: she is wildly talented. And I don't believe that she
- 27:12Speaker 2: was ever given the opportunities that she deserved after her
- 27:15Speaker 2: injury in AW. I think that she was misappropriated in
- 27:18Speaker 2: favor of a gate kept women's locker room. And we've
- 27:21Speaker 2: had this conversation on this podcast a million times, and
- 27:23Speaker 2: AW has done much better with the women's division, especially
- 27:27Speaker 2: in the past three months, you know. Like, but I
- 27:30Speaker 2: think that Layla Hirsh is just a product of that
- 27:34Speaker 2: of the women's division going by the way wayside, I
- 27:38Speaker 2: would love to see her anywhere performing because she's wildly talented.
- 27:42Speaker 2: I can't I can't pinpoint where she's gonna end up.
- 27:45Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess g I'm gonna guess first GCW.
- 27:49Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. Does anybody else have any opinions
- 27:53Speaker 1: on where Layla Hirsh may land?
- 27:57Speaker 4: I could see her in GC you and I think
- 28:01Speaker 4: that actually might be a good fit for her, So yeah,
- 28:06Speaker 4: I can see that.
- 28:08Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you to look as far as Layla
- 28:10Speaker 1: Hurst goes. She's four foot eleven and she there are
- 28:13Speaker 1: a lot of smaller women that I've seen that wrestle big.
- 28:17Speaker 1: She Layaloa Hurst wrestles small. She's four foot eleven, she
- 28:21Speaker 1: wrestles for eight And I don't mean that in a
- 28:24Speaker 1: bad way, because she's a terrific technical wrestler and she's
- 28:30Speaker 1: tough as nails. If she were to. I do agree
- 28:34Speaker 1: with GCW, but you know, she can wrestle on Hog
- 28:40Speaker 1: and other places like that. She's the perfect size for Stardom.
- 28:46Speaker 1: But because Diamonte is here, I just don't see her
- 28:49Speaker 1: going to Japan, you know. So it's it's a very
- 28:53Speaker 1: if Diamante goes to Japan, if Laila Hirsch went to
- 28:56Speaker 1: Japan at the same time, that would be I think
- 29:00Speaker 1: that would be a good move for them, because they're
- 29:04Speaker 1: the perfect size for it. I don't mean, I don't
- 29:08Speaker 1: mean that, you know, in a bad way, because anybody
- 29:12Speaker 1: knows me knows that. I personally think Stardom has the
- 29:17Speaker 1: best women's wrestling on the planet has for a while now,
- 29:22Speaker 1: and frankly, aw wwe do not come close at all
- 29:28Speaker 1: to start him.
- 29:28Speaker 2: In my mind, not even a competition. It's not even
- 29:32Speaker 2: in your mind. Anyone that watches, anyone that takes the
- 29:35Speaker 2: time to watch Stardom and also watched the other products
- 29:38Speaker 2: Kelson should agree with you and Leila.
- 29:41Speaker 1: Did you see the match between this week and between
- 29:44Speaker 1: Saya Kamatani and Tim Nakano.
- 29:48Speaker 2: I have not. I have not caught up with my
- 29:52Speaker 2: Japanese wrestling. This week been a little disposed with work.
- 29:55Speaker 2: I'm caught up with well, I am caught up with
- 29:58Speaker 2: New Japan. I'm not cut up with STARF. I have not.
- 30:01Speaker 1: Startum posted that match. Now, that match was loser Leaves Stardom,
- 30:09Speaker 1: and Stardom posted that match live for free on YouTube
- 30:16Speaker 1: so people could watch it. Great, great promotional way to
- 30:21Speaker 1: do it. That match was a six star match.
- 30:26Speaker 2: Okay, you gave me and the listener something to dive
- 30:31Speaker 2: into this evening.
- 30:33Speaker 1: Yeah, well just go on start them and look forward it.
- 30:35Speaker 1: If you can't, just go into the Joshie section of
- 30:40Speaker 1: the Our discord and I posted the link there for
- 30:45Speaker 1: the match. It was just that good. It was a
- 30:48Speaker 1: great match. And I and as I said before, I
- 30:51Speaker 1: could totally see Layla hirsh going to Startom. She's a
- 30:56Speaker 1: perfect trip for them with her style of wrestling and
- 30:59Speaker 1: her size. Uh but then again, size doesn't matter because
- 31:02Speaker 1: Megan Bain was in in Stardom and she sticks one
- 31:07Speaker 1: and she was going against but started women. They wrestle big.
- 31:11Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a point is five to one,
- 31:14Speaker 1: and you'd swear she was five eight. I mean, so
- 31:19Speaker 1: Shane I kind of took over that that segment. The
- 31:22Speaker 1: next segment, segment is all yours pal.
- 31:26Speaker 2: Oh, then what are we talking about next? The uh
- 31:30Speaker 2: the Intercontinental Continental title merge? Yeah, okay, yeah? Why do
- 31:36Speaker 2: we have two international bullets in a w two different
- 31:41Speaker 2: that are being held by two different Japanese men that
- 31:44Speaker 2: are not defending them in Japan? Well, what's up with that?
- 31:47Speaker 2: You have such an outstanding working relationship with every Japanese
- 31:51Speaker 2: promotion on Earth. Aw, you have the you have the
- 31:54Speaker 2: best tournament wrestler on Earth, Kazuchio Kata and the best
- 31:58Speaker 2: aspiring future of profession or wrestling Kenoski Takeshta. That you
- 32:03Speaker 2: guys are just stagnating to Intercontinental to be defended outside
- 32:08Speaker 2: of America belts here in aw.
- 32:12Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 32:12Speaker 2: No, Like, I think the prospect of joining these titles
- 32:16Speaker 2: is a great idea. Like let's get let's uh simply put,
- 32:24Speaker 2: they're gonna end up on Kenny. This is just my opinion.
- 32:27Speaker 2: They're gonna end up on Kenny, and they're gonna bring
- 32:30Speaker 2: them together and just let them come together and pretend
- 32:33Speaker 2: like the other one doesn't exist, just like you do
- 32:34Speaker 2: with all those storylines. You don't know how to put
- 32:36Speaker 2: a cap on Tony Kahn. Just pull the trigger because
- 32:38Speaker 2: you don't need to intercontinental titles. What you need is
- 32:41Speaker 2: women tag teams. And if you're gonna have if you're
- 32:46Speaker 2: gonna spark a revolution on Sunday, be a great time.
- 32:51Speaker 2: You know, we haven't seen when was the last time
- 32:53Speaker 2: we saw a good Tony Kahn tournament? Remember back in
- 32:55Speaker 2: the old days the fan Hub, when the biggest criticism
- 32:58Speaker 2: of ADW media there's too many tournaments. We haven't had
- 33:02Speaker 2: a good tournament in a while. Let's get let's get
- 33:05Speaker 2: a weird.
- 33:06Speaker 1: We haven't had a tournament since December.
- 33:09Speaker 2: Let's go the tournaments are like, like, let's go Tony.
- 33:15Speaker 1: Like what they could do is do a casino battle
- 33:19Speaker 1: tournament for the women's tag team titles. And once.
- 33:25Speaker 2: Remember when they did the women's lumberjack match, like like
- 33:28Speaker 2: four months ago.
- 33:30Speaker 4: I love that the lumberjack matches. That we need a
- 33:36Speaker 4: new one for the women or another one for the women.
- 33:40Speaker 2: We were all up there trying to figure out like
- 33:42Speaker 2: all of the unnamed women, like who are these We've
- 33:46Speaker 2: never seen you before? No, no, we have, she just
- 33:49Speaker 2: gotta here, Like that was that was fun. That was
- 33:52Speaker 2: a pod from like three months ago. But you know,
- 33:55Speaker 2: like just I don't believe that we need to enter
- 33:57Speaker 2: We don't need to intercontinental Chaneampionships.
- 34:00Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, Shane, and then I kind
- 34:04Speaker 1: of want to hear Max's and and that's response to
- 34:08Speaker 1: this too. Other than the CE two, Other than the
- 34:13Speaker 1: CE two, is there any difference between the International and
- 34:17Speaker 1: Continental Championships at all? Well, yes, it doesn't mean, yeah,
- 34:24Speaker 1: they other than cosmetically, I believe, you.
- 34:32Speaker 2: Know, I mean, the the only thing that the differentiates
- 34:36Speaker 2: the two titles is the men that hold them. Those
- 34:40Speaker 2: I'll tell you, Like Okada is Okada, He's a well
- 34:44Speaker 2: Okada is a w Okada, and that's not a bad thing.
- 34:47Speaker 2: I like what Okada is doing. He's slowly starting to
- 34:50Speaker 2: get back into being the ornery like Okada that everyone
- 34:55Speaker 2: knows from Japan, and I'm okay with that. I want
- 34:57Speaker 2: to see that cool. But Takeshta, he's new to for
- 35:01Speaker 2: wrestling audiences. You know, Like, now we're talking like that's
- 35:06Speaker 2: what really like separates the belts. You're talking about two
- 35:09Speaker 2: different wrestlers holding two different titles. Like that's so we're
- 35:13Speaker 2: going to bring them together. And but like it's clear
- 35:16Speaker 2: that they're both going on the same guy because like,
- 35:18Speaker 2: so we're gonna have Kenny and Dakesha and Kenny's gonna
- 35:21Speaker 2: take this belt. And where is he headed next? He's
- 35:24Speaker 2: headed towards his oldest rival, his most five Star matches,
- 35:29Speaker 2: his most MELTIESE Like, why wouldn't he head towards Oconton next?
- 35:33Speaker 2: Like like, they're going to unify these titles that way.
- 35:36Speaker 2: It's going to happen at all In And the writing
- 35:38Speaker 2: is on the wall. I don't have to be a
- 35:39Speaker 2: pro wrestling analyst to know that that's what's going to happen.
- 35:42Speaker 2: It's already evident.
- 35:44Speaker 1: So's he's going to do belt collecting, is what you're
- 35:47Speaker 1: saying about Kenny Omega?
- 35:49Speaker 3: You know?
- 35:50Speaker 1: And I will say this, I think at all In
- 35:53Speaker 1: it's going to be Kenny Omega versus Mercedes Money for
- 35:55Speaker 1: the DBS Championship.
- 35:58Speaker 4: That'd be fantastic.
- 36:00Speaker 2: It would be fantastic.
- 36:02Speaker 1: Mercedes would win.
- 36:06Speaker 2: And then Caliber ed Kenny O Megan will be doing
- 36:11Speaker 2: Disney plus Star Wars episodes two weeks later.
- 36:14Speaker 4: Oh goodness, he'd be that.
- 36:16Speaker 1: Over Well that what are you what are your thoughts
- 36:19Speaker 1: here on the International Continental Championship? I mean, do you
- 36:23Speaker 1: agree that they should merge them or are you happy
- 36:26Speaker 1: with with that? And do you I want to ask
- 36:29Speaker 1: you specifically that you, Graine, do you agree with Shane's
- 36:34Speaker 1: assessment that I can't remember how he exactly worded it,
- 36:38Speaker 1: but he kind of alluded to the effect that Takeshta
- 36:42Speaker 1: isn't defending the title internationally.
- 36:47Speaker 4: Yeah, Takeshia isn't defending it. I've been wondering why he
- 36:51Speaker 4: hasn't been defending it internationally because to me, he has
- 36:59Speaker 4: superstar written all over him. I feel like he can
- 37:02Speaker 4: go anywhere at any time and just bring it, and
- 37:09Speaker 4: you know people will show up for him. So I
- 37:14Speaker 4: wonder why he hasn't been more places with the belt
- 37:19Speaker 4: and something. I kind of have the impression about Okata
- 37:24Speaker 4: that he isn't going anywhere with the belt because he's
- 37:28Speaker 4: kind of being cocky and he expects people to come
- 37:33Speaker 4: to him. So if you kind of watch him and
- 37:38Speaker 4: pay attention to his matches, it's kind of like you
- 37:42Speaker 4: ask him to wrestle for that belt, and he gets
- 37:47Speaker 4: to decide if you can wrestle him or not. So
- 37:50Speaker 4: I think that may be a reason he's not going
- 37:53Speaker 4: anywhere and defending it. He expects everybody to come to him.
- 37:57Speaker 4: But yeah, i'd like to see them you to fy it.
- 38:01Speaker 4: I also would like them to see I'd like to
- 38:04Speaker 4: see them trick all of us fans and actually not
- 38:07Speaker 4: put it on Kenny and put it on somebody else
- 38:11Speaker 4: who I don't know, but I would like to see
- 38:14Speaker 4: a little trickery and a little surprise there.
- 38:17Speaker 1: I know you want to see. I know you want
- 38:19Speaker 1: to see it go on. I know you want to
- 38:21Speaker 1: see the belts go on. Go ahead, say it, go ahead, Eddie,
- 38:25Speaker 1: there you go, everybody's favorite instructor.
- 38:30Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, I mean there's there's also somebody
- 38:34Speaker 4: who hasn't come back to a w yet who they
- 38:39Speaker 4: could do some kind of I don't know how they
- 38:42Speaker 4: could do it, but there's a certain wrestler that hasn't
- 38:45Speaker 4: come back that also could kind of come in and
- 38:49Speaker 4: shake things up and take take the unified belt.
- 38:55Speaker 2: Not so let please let that wrestler. His name be
- 39:00Speaker 2: Koda Abushie, that's who it is.
- 39:04Speaker 1: I thought she was going to say Lucasaurus.
- 39:06Speaker 2: Nos Coda has been like on social media, yeah, trolling
- 39:18Speaker 2: as fans for almost a year. Yeah, I'm coming back, guys, Like.
- 39:23Speaker 4: So when come on, you know, come back stop messing around,
- 39:29Speaker 4: and you know, and it would really surprise It would
- 39:32Speaker 4: surprise me if if you know, we all think that
- 39:36Speaker 4: it's going to be Kenny and it's actually someone else,
- 39:40Speaker 4: so you know, we'll see.
- 39:43Speaker 2: Well, so Coda gets the belts, Kenny comes out and says,
- 39:46Speaker 2: hey man, I've been injured. I'm a mess, and and my, my, my,
- 39:51Speaker 2: what I've considered to be my equal, Coda, the Golden Lover,
- 39:55Speaker 2: you know, actually came up and did the thing. So
- 39:57Speaker 2: I guess I'm not as good as I thought I was.
- 39:58Speaker 2: And then it gives Kenny a little more relevance, right yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 40:04Speaker 1: Well, so let me say it this way. I absolutely
- 40:08Speaker 1: agree with Shade on this one. Uh. I've been calling
- 40:12Speaker 1: for two things for well over a year now, well
- 40:16Speaker 1: three things actually, for well over a year now. First,
- 40:20Speaker 1: I was calling for them to get rid of those
- 40:22Speaker 1: at that absolutely worthless FTW title. They did that, they
- 40:28Speaker 1: got a TV deal and they're on Max now. Thank
- 40:31Speaker 1: you very much for listening to me, Tony Cod. It
- 40:35Speaker 1: was my idea. I also said they should combine the
- 40:38Speaker 1: international and Continental titles because there's no difference between them
- 40:43Speaker 1: at all. It makes no sense they're redundant. Okay, I
- 40:48Speaker 1: don't know, maybe they get maybe if they do that
- 40:52Speaker 1: Ring of Honor gets a TV deal.
- 40:55Speaker 2: I guess I'm gonna say something dangerous. I thought that
- 40:58Speaker 2: the Internet national title was the most fun when Pak
- 41:03Speaker 2: was defending it in indies in Scotland and Britain and
- 41:08Speaker 2: the elite.
- 41:09Speaker 1: And the titles can't be fun. And I disagree with
- 41:12Speaker 1: you about to cast him by the way, because he
- 41:14Speaker 1: defended that sucker like crazy overseas. I don't know what
- 41:18Speaker 1: you're talking about.
- 41:19Speaker 2: He did and and L and M.
- 41:21Speaker 1: L W October November December. That's all he did.
- 41:26Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, to be fair though, I mean, like they
- 41:28Speaker 2: put him in matches with people for like it was
- 41:32Speaker 2: clear that he was just showing up for a He
- 41:35Speaker 2: was just showing up because he was paid to do so.
- 41:39Speaker 2: Like it wasn't like they were putting up him up
- 41:41Speaker 2: any one where he looked like it was a convincing match. Now,
- 41:44Speaker 2: if they sent him to Japan and put him up
- 41:46Speaker 2: against Gabe Kid, you know, well ed Kingston Killer, you know,
- 41:51Speaker 2: I would be like, whoa man?
- 41:53Speaker 1: The gay kid?
- 41:54Speaker 2: But actually get this thing, guys, and he's gonna sit
- 41:56Speaker 2: up there and look like a Walmart Connor McGregor and
- 41:58Speaker 2: call out other people for a looking like Walmart and
- 42:00Speaker 2: a diaz Is, which is what he did this week.
- 42:03Speaker 2: I just I don't know Takesha. I think that Takesha
- 42:08Speaker 2: just signed with New signed with New Japan recently and
- 42:11Speaker 2: they announced it multi one of the first known multi partnership,
- 42:17Speaker 2: you know, cross promotional. We own them and I own thems,
- 42:21Speaker 2: you know.
- 42:21Speaker 1: But like, yeah, well, as I said, there were three
- 42:26Speaker 1: things that I had said that aw do get rid
- 42:29Speaker 1: of the FTW champion combined the International and Continental championship,
- 42:34Speaker 1: and the third, as Shane said at the beginning of
- 42:36Speaker 1: this segment, create a women's tag team title. We've got
- 42:41Speaker 1: so many women's tag team I mean, it's obvious that
- 42:45Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. It's obvious that that's what they're doing. Uh,
- 42:50Speaker 1: look at how many tag teams have been formed. We
- 42:52Speaker 1: we just saw Queen Dominada and Serriita d form of
- 42:55Speaker 1: partnership basically you know, when when I'm Ann Auban, you know,
- 43:01Speaker 1: and we all of course, sky Blue said that she
- 43:05Speaker 1: is not anywhere near coming back yet in an interview
- 43:10Speaker 1: that she just did recently. I think she's pulling our legs.
- 43:13Speaker 1: I think that she'll be back Sunday. A revolution, Max
- 43:18Speaker 1: go ahead.
- 43:19Speaker 2: She should not telling people on convention floors that she's
- 43:22Speaker 2: clear to come back. Then wait, I'm sorry. I'm sorry
- 43:30Speaker 2: that I'm too soon. Like something that strikes me as odd,
- 43:34Speaker 2: And we could move on from this after I say this.
- 43:36Speaker 2: But like I like, if you're if you're a talent,
- 43:41Speaker 2: it almost feels like that that's what they're being told
- 43:45Speaker 2: to say.
- 43:46Speaker 1: Like I create you, Shane, I can guarantee you that
- 43:52Speaker 1: your report got back to Tony Kahan or Will Washington
- 43:55Speaker 1: or somebody and they said sky Blue, Hey, look, bitch,
- 44:00Speaker 1: shut your mouth. You simple as By the way, did
- 44:05Speaker 1: you see sky Blue's new look?
- 44:07Speaker 2: Sure?
- 44:07Speaker 1: Did you? It doesn't work for me.
- 44:16Speaker 4: I have kind of a it's kind of related, unrelated,
- 44:21Speaker 4: but something I picked up on now that you've mentioned
- 44:24Speaker 4: sky Blue is our good friend Kyle Fletcher has been
- 44:29Speaker 4: wearing a wedding band. Yeah, yeah, so I kind of
- 44:35Speaker 4: wonder maybe they got married and you know, she's sitting
- 44:38Speaker 4: her butt down somewhere.
- 44:42Speaker 1: Fletcher. No, let's not go there with that awful hairdo
- 44:50Speaker 1: and that awful makeup that she's got. Now, who would marry.
- 44:53Speaker 4: That Kyle Fletcher.
- 44:57Speaker 2: Her bags look fantastic.
- 44:58Speaker 1: Kelson for a Uh what Max? You kind of got
- 45:03Speaker 1: cut off? You know, I follow everybody.
- 45:07Speaker 3: Uh I wanted to ask.
- 45:09Speaker 2: Sorry, Max, Oh, you know it's all good.
- 45:11Speaker 3: Uhlson, who do you think is gonna be the first
- 45:15Speaker 3: woman's tag team champions in a w Let's go around,
- 45:19Speaker 3: who y'all think is gonna be the first?
- 45:22Speaker 2: Uh?
- 45:26Speaker 1: Athena and Mercedes Money.
- 45:30Speaker 3: Deep deep something less obvious?
- 45:37Speaker 1: Uh, Sir Pentico and Nila Rose.
- 45:40Speaker 2: Okay yo, No you can't say that.
- 45:44Speaker 1: No Kelson, Well, that's that's less obvious.
- 45:50Speaker 2: Oh my god, Calson please?
- 45:53Speaker 1: Well what way God for? Sirpentaco? Put the mask over
- 45:57Speaker 1: it like back girl from sixty six, and I've go
- 46:00Speaker 1: out there.
- 46:01Speaker 3: And be a.
- 46:03Speaker 2: You know, God's a female wrestler.
- 46:06Speaker 3: And there you go.
- 46:15Speaker 2: This is why we can't have nice things, why we
- 46:19Speaker 2: can have nice things? Go ahead, Jade, Oh god, I
- 46:23Speaker 2: don't even I don't even know how to respond to
- 46:25Speaker 2: this now. Julia Hart. Honestly, Julia Hard and sky Blue.
- 46:30Speaker 2: I think that sky Blue comes back and aligns herself
- 46:34Speaker 2: with Julia Hart and and they're the queens of the
- 46:37Speaker 2: Black Throne and I would love to see that realistically.
- 46:40Speaker 1: Though realistically, I mean, that's a great pick, and that's
- 46:44Speaker 1: something that's maybe seen as kind of obvious pick. What's
- 46:48Speaker 1: a pick that may most maybe most people wouldn't think
- 46:53Speaker 1: hej Hey, that's a good one. I might say Megan
- 46:58Speaker 1: Baden Penelope for it?
- 47:00Speaker 2: Hell yeah, how about Diamante and Mercedes Martinez.
- 47:09Speaker 1: Okay, so before we name every freaking tag team that
- 47:12Speaker 1: there possibly is, let's go to net and get her
- 47:15Speaker 1: take on it, since she hasn't had a chance to yet.
- 47:18Speaker 4: Billy Starks and Nick Wayne.
- 47:26Speaker 2: It's always Sonny and not it's always Sonny in Philadelphia.
- 47:30Speaker 2: Curb your enthusiasm.
- 47:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you when
- 47:41Speaker 1: it comes to Athena and you. I have some thoughts
- 47:44Speaker 1: about Athena for tomorrow Night show, in the Prediction show,
- 47:50Speaker 1: I think that the uh, the women's matches on tomorrow
- 47:55Speaker 1: a Revolution Arena be nuts good. I really do, I
- 48:01Speaker 1: really do.
- 48:02Speaker 2: And make them the focal point of the show as
- 48:03Speaker 2: well that the like, if you have an opportunity to,
- 48:07Speaker 2: uh to make them great, do it.
- 48:12Speaker 1: What's the what's the main event revolution? For you? I
- 48:18Speaker 1: mean seriously, yeah, for you.
- 48:21Speaker 2: My well, I already said m Jeff and Adam pay
- 48:24Speaker 2: and hang in in a page, but Momo and Mercedes
- 48:27Speaker 2: are pretty pretty close.
- 48:29Speaker 1: You really think that would be the main event match?
- 48:31Speaker 2: And I think that I think that with as much
- 48:35Speaker 2: improvement that as Mercedes has had and having Momo there
- 48:40Speaker 2: as well, Yes, absolutely it could be. It could be
- 48:42Speaker 2: the match. It could potentially be the match of the
- 48:45Speaker 2: evening if if the chemistry is right.
- 48:50Speaker 1: Why, I'm gonna be honest with you, I kind of
- 48:51Speaker 1: expect when the pay per view starts, I wouldn't be
- 48:56Speaker 1: surprised if that the first match was, uh, the Outrunners
- 49:01Speaker 1: and Hurt Syndicate. But I really think that the first
- 49:05Speaker 1: match of the pay per view is going to be
- 49:06Speaker 1: hanging out in page at MBA, MJF. You think about it.
- 49:11Speaker 1: Look at the last several pay per views. MJF is
- 49:14Speaker 1: has opened the last several of the last pay per views,
- 49:18Speaker 1: and if we know anything about Tony Kahan is that
- 49:21Speaker 1: he's consistent.
- 49:22Speaker 2: Could be Kenny though, it could it could be Kenny
- 49:25Speaker 2: Takeshta start start off strong.
- 49:29Speaker 1: Yeah, I would hate the come up with the the
- 49:33Speaker 1: match card order. Yeah, yeah, the playlist, because geez, this
- 49:41Speaker 1: dispatch card is really stacked. It really is.
- 49:44Speaker 2: We already know that Tony Storm and uh Mariah May
- 49:47Speaker 2: is going to be a banger that's probably going to
- 49:49Speaker 2: be closer to the top. But I think that I don't.
- 49:52Speaker 2: I don't think that people should sleep on Mercedes and Memo.
- 49:54Speaker 2: I don't think that they should.
- 49:56Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think Cope and and Moxley is
- 49:59Speaker 1: going to be the main event, even though I absolutely
- 50:02Speaker 1: don't think it should be.
- 50:04Speaker 2: Uh the World Championship.
- 50:06Speaker 1: Man, It's like, does that's another question. Does a W
- 50:12Speaker 1: have a World Championship Still? I'm not sure.
- 50:16Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 50:17Speaker 3: It's a briefcase.
- 50:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 50:21Speaker 2: John Travolter and Samuel L. Jackson are currently touring the
- 50:24Speaker 2: United States that chasing that look at the Marcellus.
- 50:29Speaker 3: Walla is a briefcase, Thank you very much.
- 50:35Speaker 1: I know where I know where on that line of discussion, Shane,
- 50:41Speaker 1: I know that that the a W World Championship belt
- 50:46Speaker 1: is currently resigning in Christopher Walkins.
- 50:49Speaker 4: Ass Oh God, cow Bell.
- 50:53Speaker 2: I carried it. This is your father's pocket watch, Bruce.
- 51:00Speaker 2: First of all, Sweat is a Christmas movie. Here we
- 51:04Speaker 2: are and.
- 51:05Speaker 3: Cha you just said no. They lost it in the
- 51:07Speaker 3: taxi or hotel lobby.
- 51:12Speaker 1: He jam JF hawked at the buy a dud dynamite
- 51:16Speaker 1: diamond ring and.
- 51:17Speaker 4: I think they lost it. They like lost it in
- 51:21Speaker 4: a poker game or something. They lost it and don't
- 51:24Speaker 4: want to admit it.
- 51:25Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack Perry has it.
- 51:28Speaker 6: Oh goodness on that gust he got mad Mads and
- 51:31Speaker 6: took it.
- 51:38Speaker 1: Oh goodness, God, well stayed. We had some other news
- 51:46Speaker 1: items that came out over the week, and let's talk
- 51:48Speaker 1: about those. What do you what do you want to
- 51:50Speaker 1: talk about?
- 51:51Speaker 2: All right, let's just let's let's stock the boring stuff
- 51:54Speaker 2: out quick.
- 51:56Speaker 3: Let's start with the one was that one thing we
- 51:58Speaker 3: all want to talk about?
- 52:00Speaker 2: No, no, no, Pope Pourri is where where this podcast
- 52:03Speaker 2: is going to go off the rails. But let's knock
- 52:05Speaker 2: the boring stuff out quick?
- 52:06Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
- 52:07Speaker 2: So Joehann Promotions is the company that handles all of
- 52:10Speaker 2: the subsidiary and third party ae W showings outside of
- 52:13Speaker 2: pay per views. So they just resigned a multi year
- 52:16Speaker 2: promotion with this company. AW is not going anywhere. Sorry,
- 52:20Speaker 2: w w E fans that hated a to a W man,
- 52:22Speaker 2: This is not w CW. This is not TNA the'se
- 52:25Speaker 2: got Tony TK is going to be around, so hopefully
- 52:28Speaker 2: gets this stuff together. You're going to continue to see
- 52:30Speaker 2: a w on fan duel and and Bette Rivers and
- 52:35Speaker 2: uh and what's the what's the one they use? What
- 52:37Speaker 2: is that this?
- 52:46Speaker 1: Like?
- 52:46Speaker 2: So like we're going to continue to see a w
- 52:49Speaker 2: media out there in a grander scheme for people that
- 52:51Speaker 2: don't have access to the ability to grab pay per views,
- 52:55Speaker 2: they could go and watch the stuff on public, which
- 52:57Speaker 2: is great, you know, good for you, Tony. Continue to
- 52:59Speaker 2: develop your product and built on top of it. And
- 53:02Speaker 2: then the other little thing that I had was the
- 53:03Speaker 2: Jimmie hater thing, and it's just like people.
- 53:06Speaker 1: Are old Jimmy haters. Where's she been?
- 53:08Speaker 2: She's going over to next team? What's up with her contract?
- 53:11Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah. No, dude, she has visa issues,
- 53:13Speaker 2: just like everybody else on earth who is not American
- 53:17Speaker 2: that wrestles in America. Like when it comes to renewing
- 53:20Speaker 2: your visa, you can't travel. And she's just waiting to
- 53:22Speaker 2: get a new copy of her passport. Leave her alone.
- 53:26Speaker 2: She'll be back. And she's a former women's World champion
- 53:29Speaker 2: and she's gonna be again because she's one of the
- 53:31Speaker 2: greatest women's wrestlers they have. On the wrestler she's top three,
- 53:34Speaker 2: so she's number three to me. She's number three to me.
- 53:38Speaker 2: How about that? So that's all I had that that's the.
- 53:43Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 53:45Speaker 1: MJF did a interview recently, like in the last day
- 53:48Speaker 1: or two with Sports Illustrated, and he basically said, uh
- 53:54Speaker 1: that if you know to be a top guy, you've
- 53:59Speaker 1: got to study wrestling matches. Had he said, frankly, he
- 54:06Speaker 1: just came out and he said the John Cena He'll
- 54:11Speaker 1: turn you know, was awesome. He said, it's awesome and
- 54:17Speaker 1: if anybody tells you otherwise, they're full of shit. You know,
- 54:20Speaker 1: it was awesome.
- 54:21Speaker 2: He also said that John talked to John. He he
- 54:25Speaker 2: talked to John Cena personally and said that John Cena
- 54:28Speaker 2: said to him that he hopes he's playing on the
- 54:30Speaker 2: right team someday. I don't think that. I think that
- 54:33Speaker 2: everything in that MGF does is a work and we're
- 54:35Speaker 2: and he's not even going to be able to move
- 54:37Speaker 2: until twenty twenty seven. So yeah, the walk all the
- 54:41Speaker 2: crap you want to.
- 54:42Speaker 1: The other thing that MJF said was about the wrestlers
- 54:49Speaker 1: being top guys, and he basically said that if WWE
- 54:54Speaker 1: wrestlers are not watching a w then they're not top guys.
- 54:59Speaker 1: They're not the students of the game. You've got to
- 55:02Speaker 1: watch and familiar familiarize yourself with pro wrestling to be
- 55:08Speaker 1: a successful pro wrestler. That's what I'm Jeff said.
- 55:12Speaker 2: So, if we could take this all the way back
- 55:16Speaker 2: to twenty eleven, my friend, if if the upper party
- 55:20Speaker 2: of WWE wasn't watching other promotions, NXT wouldn't exist. Sorry, true, Yeah,
- 55:29Speaker 2: tell me sit there with a as a WWE fan,
- 55:32Speaker 2: sit there with a straight face, and tell me that
- 55:35Speaker 2: AW hasn't emulated NXT or vice versa in the past
- 55:40Speaker 2: five or six years since the AW has has been
- 55:43Speaker 2: a thing. It is a thing. There's literal. Tony Kahan
- 55:46Speaker 2: literally said on the Life taping of NXT had made
- 55:49Speaker 2: facial expressions back in twenty thirteen towards a camera and
- 55:54Speaker 2: it's been on Bascha Mania like a thousand times. Get
- 55:57Speaker 2: the hell out of here, dude. Like, if you think
- 55:59Speaker 2: Triple A just sitting there like a student of pro wrestling,
- 56:03Speaker 2: analyzing everything that's going, if he says that he doesn't,
- 56:06Speaker 2: he's a liar. He's a liar. Show me your Google
- 56:10Speaker 2: search history, bro, post it. Let's go like you're full
- 56:14Speaker 2: of shit, dude. Yeah, M Jeff has a peak pro
- 56:21Speaker 2: wrestling intellect.
- 56:25Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, a couple of other things that I wanted
- 56:27Speaker 1: to bring up. Mercedes Monet had a really great quote
- 56:31Speaker 1: about about what she's doing in AW. She said, I'm
- 56:34Speaker 1: here to really make a difference in the sport, especially
- 56:37Speaker 1: for women. But I just wish fans would know how
- 56:40Speaker 1: much I love wrestling and how much passion I have
- 56:43Speaker 1: for this. She was answering a question about how much
- 56:47Speaker 1: he loves wrestling, and I think that, honestly, I think
- 56:51Speaker 1: that that comes through on her right now. I mean,
- 56:52Speaker 1: I really do. You can see how passionate it is
- 56:57Speaker 1: she she is for wrestling. A couple of other things
- 57:01Speaker 1: that to bring up real quick. Zach Knight Seray's brother
- 57:06Speaker 1: was released or his contract expired and was not picked
- 57:10Speaker 1: up by AW. And yesterday was the one year anniversary
- 57:15Speaker 1: of Revolution twenty twenty four, and of course that was
- 57:21Speaker 1: the Icon Sting's final match, So thank you Sting. I mean,
- 57:28Speaker 1: that was just za when somebody that's sixty years old
- 57:33Speaker 1: plus to put on a match like that it's unbelievable. Unbelievable.
- 57:46Speaker 2: The absence of staying will be felt across professional wrestling
- 57:52Speaker 2: into the unforseeable future. Thank you, Steve Borden for everything
- 57:56Speaker 2: that you've done for wrestling because you are no longer staying. Yeah,
- 58:02Speaker 2: it's our finishing move, channel your inner Tony Chavani instead.
- 58:08Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's go ahead and move on to pot Pourri.
- 58:14Speaker 1: Who wants to go first?
- 58:19Speaker 2: No, we all listen. I'm gonna I'm gonna give it
- 58:26Speaker 2: a disclaimer to our listeners. Uh, we knew coming into
- 58:30Speaker 2: this podcast that pot Pourri might become unhinged and we're
- 58:33Speaker 2: gonna talk about things outside of a w This is
- 58:36Speaker 2: always going to be an aw fan hubbed production. But unfortunately,
- 58:40Speaker 2: but not unfortunately fortunately, we're grace enough to know that
- 58:43Speaker 2: things and other promotions happen that have a greater impact
- 58:48Speaker 2: on all of professional wrestling, and we got to see
- 58:51Speaker 2: a lot of that in the past two weeks and
- 58:53Speaker 2: it did not happen in a w So that being said, Uh,
- 58:58Speaker 2: there's your disclaimer.
- 59:00Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen. On March first, twenty twenty five, a
- 59:06Speaker 3: day that will live in wrestling in from me, the
- 59:09Speaker 3: Ultimate company man John Cena turned the heel and kick
- 59:17Speaker 3: w W champion Cody Roads in between the legs.
- 59:24Speaker 1: That's it.
- 59:25Speaker 2: No, Hey, hey Nelson, Hey Kelson, let me hold on
- 59:28Speaker 2: before Max, before you continue on. And I know I
- 59:31Speaker 2: have the habit of hijacking these pods. I just want
- 59:33Speaker 2: to ask Cody Rhoads can say the F word on
- 59:36Speaker 2: WW pay per views?
- 59:37Speaker 5: Now?
- 59:37Speaker 3: Can?
- 59:37Speaker 2: Does that mean I could say the F word on
- 59:39Speaker 2: the podcast?
- 59:43Speaker 1: Let me see your neck? Do you have a stupid
- 59:46Speaker 1: tattoo on your neck? Nope? No, you can't.
- 59:49Speaker 4: No, damn did you dye your hair blonde?
- 59:53Speaker 2: Like I will?
- 59:55Speaker 1: All right, well closer, are your fans called fry babies?
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: I'm not.
- 1:00:06Speaker 4: Ricky saying.
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: Go ahead, backs, I said, I dyed my hair blonde
- 1:00:13Speaker 3: in high school? Does that count? No?
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: Because no, because try to be a Nazi has nothing
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: to do for you know, being Nazi for a high
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: school production of sound the music has nothing to do
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: with with realism here.
- 1:00:28Speaker 3: That's not I said, No, I died my hair blonde
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: in high school? Does that count?
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: The joke went over.
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: My answer says the same. Did you not watch? Uh?
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: What movie was that was? That was the passive. The Pacifier.
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: What are the greatest movies of all time? You never
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: saw the Pacifier? Oh my god, you had a shitty childhood.
- 1:00:54Speaker 3: Oh but going back to saying, John Cena is a heel,
- 1:00:59Speaker 3: and oh all it's it's surreal. It's just surreal of that,
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: the guy who would never turn heel no matter how
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: much we begged and begged for he'll see it, especially
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: ten years ago. Yeah, wow, during his last year, we're
- 1:01:17Speaker 3: in for a ride.
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: I just think, I just think it's gonna be nice
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: to see how he scares the piss out of Make
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: a Wish kids from now on.
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: So they filed a trademark. They filed a trademark this
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: morning for the Break a Wish. Really, they sure did so.
- 1:01:40Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna cut it promo on the fence. He's
- 1:01:47Speaker 3: gonna yell at us for the scene A sucks chance
- 1:01:51Speaker 3: all those years of John Cino sucks.
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: Dude. No, this is going to be a stone called
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: Steve Bawston situation where on Sena is so over it
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: doesn't matter if he goes heel. People are just going
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: to root for him because he's seen.
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: I agree.
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: They were screaming peace maker at one in the during
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: the first season a peacemaker, So I mean Sena, Sena guys.
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: It's like, you know, the rockspect that.
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: His opponent should come out to the ring with a
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: call it ball paid a gold on their head.
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: So this is clearly a polarizing moment in professional wrestling history.
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: Let's just say it how it is. But I have
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: to I have to be the guy as the AW
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: fan because we are the aaw fan hub and we
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: are predominantly, you know, speaking about aw happenings on these pods.
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: You know, something that we haven't seen in WWE media
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: in a long time is cursing, calling people out, calling
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: people out of name, uh, and blood, and we got
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: all four of those things. So, like Kelson, you made
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: the statement earlier today, it's impossible to believe in order
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: to have you know, an understanding of what's going on
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: the pro wrestling platform, to not watch other promotions. And
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: they hit on every single cylinder with this heel turn.
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: I mean, you had all you don't you.
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: Don't have, you don't have to watch other promotions as
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: a fan. But I think the point that I can
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: make here is even if you don't watch another promotion,
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: I didn't watch Star Chamber or whatever the hell it was.
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: You know, I didn't care, you know, but I still
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: kept up with it, you know, and you know, and
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: all joking aside. I appreciate what was done. I enjoy
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: reading people's reactions to the stories that we're told and
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: the matches that were fought, and the you know, the
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: Christian Cage and Adam Copeland exchange that they had, and
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: other things that they copied from AW like blood and
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: you know wrestling literally, yeah, literally, everything that happened happened
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: in AW.
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: Last year you had, you had an og come out
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: in the industry.
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: Hey, Shane, I've been a wrestling fan for years, and
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: I'll say this that even somebody had just started beating
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: wrestling a fan a year ago. It's the same stuff
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: done over and over and over again, just different stories
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: and different characters. There's always so much you could do.
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: Yeah, how many times are you gonna cover Come Together
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: by the Beatles? I mean a dozen bands have done it,
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: but you're never gonna hit You're never gonna hit hit
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: it the same way that they did when they had
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: blisters on their fingers recording that in the studio, you know,
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: And unfortunately that's not an aw comparison. This goes back
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: to Hogan and the nw BRO. I mean, like like
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: like that that turn is the biggest heal turned in
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: professional wrestling history. This is comparable. I do believe it's
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: polarizing and I do believe that it's huge and it's
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: revolutionary to the current p wrestling landscape.
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: What do you think, Shane, when you think of factions,
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: what are the top three factions? Classic factions, not recent factions? Factions?
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: Would you say, like the end, I let me throw
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: this out there and w O d X Free Birds?
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: But what turned that on? But what turned all of
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: that on its head? I mean like the Bullet Club.
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: Yeah, But what I'm saying is what the Bullet Club
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: is basically and WO with different characters and different stories.
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: That's it.
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: The soul of it, you know, is the same.
- 1:06:00Speaker 3: You know. You know.
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: In a w the pinnacle was the free Birds. You know,
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: it's They're all the same with just different characters and
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: different stories attached to them. You know, they it is
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, you're going to take on
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: the four Horsemen and put them in with instead of
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: the free Birds. You know, there's you know, but you
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: know there's not that much difference, you know, So what
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: people call, well, I guess the point of making is
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: when people come down on something that's being done, it's
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: not a bad idea, it's just an idea that's been
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: done before, maybe better, because there really aren't that many
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: new ideas. Yep, except except for when you get somebody
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: just totally off the rocker, like you know, Satino or
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: Harley Cameron or something like that. Those were those are different.
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: You know, they're a little bit different, but still you
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: know it it works or it doesn't work. But it's
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: all been done before. Somebody did it already, and it's
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: gonna be done again.
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: I mean, even look at what's going on in a
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: w right now. We had We've had Jungle Boy in
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: the past, We've had the Death Writers in the past,
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: We've had other indic acts, We've had other versions of
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: the Bold Club that have tried to have come up.
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: And well, when you look at Sena, it's a cool story.
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: It's been done before. And I don't mean that in
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: a negative way. I'm just saying it's been done before.
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: It should surprise anybody. It really shouldn't.
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: I don't even think Seene is real. I can't even
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: see him when he's No.
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: That can't be good for he can't be good for ratings,
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: just having an empty empty regular one by.
- 1:07:47Speaker 3: Done that.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: Uh again, Unfortunately I have to expand on that. Uh
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: on Max's Polpery hate man man like literally, Uh, it
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: was polarizing and I'm going to say polarizing twelve more
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: times before I'm cut off and move on to my
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: own minor nets one Polpurri. It's just one of those
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: things that happened that just unfortunately didn't happen on AWTV
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: and hopefully Revolution this weekend. I'm hoping that they do
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: something so wild at Revolution this weekend, something so game
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: changing as to not emulate or replicate, but to compare
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: and contrast to what happened at an elimination Chamber over
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: the weekend. Maybe we'll get lucky enough the steam Yeah,
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: I mean, like, what was the argument on the fan
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: hub today is that that WW fans are going to
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: utilize Elimination Chamber as a reason to shame AW. Like,
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: I don't want to see that. I want to see
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: that put more eyes on Aw's product. It's a reason
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: to look watch AW because maybe they'll try to do
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: something just as crazy as that, and we'll have a
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: big of a lasting impact.
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: I have to have to I kind of have to
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: disagree with a little bit here, Shane, because AW doesn't
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: need to do any If they do something surprising, that's great,
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. But unlike A unlike WWAW is
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: known for putting on absolute bangers of pay per views
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: that actually have hours of wrestling instead of minutes of
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: wrestling in them. So I don't think I don't think
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: AW has to change anything, you know. And I'm not
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: putting down WWE here because they do what they do,
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: They've been doing it for years, they're successful. You can't
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: argue with that. All I'm saying is is that if
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: you like wrestling, you watch an AAW pay per view. Still,
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: WWE doesn't wrestle that much in their pay per views.
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: That's why they're free for a part of a subscription package.
- 1:09:56Speaker 2: You got to you gotta pay the troll toll.
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: Yeah, So.
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: My potpourri, uh huh is Malachi Black, you know. And
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: something that's kind of been bouncing around the IWC is
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: that talent poaching is still a thing that's happening in
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: the FED and I'm gonna be that guy. I'm just
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: gonna bring it up and we can stew on this
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: and talk about it next week. But kind of suspicious
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: that he went radio silent and then Malachi Black's on
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: social media reposting all the greatest Black masks. He hit
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: an NXT within days of him being done with AW.
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: Was a little bit suspicious that his wife works for
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: WWE and that he's immediately as soon as his contract
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: is released, talked about going back after months of speculating
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: that he was just trying to build his pro wrestling
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: school or work on his jiu Jitsuho are getting into
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: mixed martial arts, and now they're saying, literally like yesterday,
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: that it'll be back by the rumble looks a little
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: suss looking sus WWE lavesque calling you out, buddy, stop poaching.
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: You know what, Shane, though, I think that the fact
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: that Lena Vega does work in WWE. Uh Look, it
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: was obvious that to a lot of people that Malchi
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: Black was going to work with Lena Vega again wherever
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: she is. If Lena Vega came to AW, he would
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: have stayed at AAW. I really believe that that's the
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: reason why he's going to WWE, and I have no
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: problem with that. I wish him the best. I have
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: a lot of respect for Balchi black Dot that he
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: gives a flying you know what that I do. But
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: I think he's great. I think he's got a great character.
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: I think he's a fantastic professional wrestler. I hope he
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: goes to WW. It is the next former AW champion
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: to go over there and quickly win WW champions, proof
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: yet again that AW is better than WWE.
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: Hey, Max, Hey, Max, Let me ask you a question. Uh,
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: Alistair Black was undefeated at nxtes.
- 1:12:13Speaker 3: I don't believe so.
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: Well, now I gotta hop on the thing because he
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: was mostly he won most of his matches Alistair Black.
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: Uh w while you're doing that, Shane Net, do you
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: have a potpourri?
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: Well?
- 1:12:36Speaker 4: The only thing I've been obsessed with lately is figuring
- 1:12:39Speaker 4: out who sasquatches. Other than that, I don't know. I
- 1:12:45Speaker 4: can't let it go. I need to know who that
- 1:12:48Speaker 4: is evil who hints that he knows whose sasquatch is
- 1:12:54Speaker 4: all the time? So who is it?
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: What the hell are you talking about? Is this something
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: that happens death? Writers.
- 1:13:03Speaker 4: No, No, there's there's a wrestler called Sasquatch that dresses
- 1:13:10Speaker 4: up in full Sasquatch costume and wears a singlet and
- 1:13:18Speaker 4: runs around in wrestles. And I've I've seen Sasquatch numerous
- 1:13:25Speaker 4: times on Evil UNO's wrestling platform, Mystery Wrestling, and it's
- 1:13:33Speaker 4: just been driving me crazy. What actual professional wrestler is
- 1:13:38Speaker 4: in that Sasquatch costume?
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: I mean, is he Paul?
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: Is he? What?
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: Is he? Unusually tall?
- 1:13:48Speaker 4: He's about the height of everybody else, so maybe around
- 1:13:52Speaker 4: six feet.
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: Or so, Okay? Is is he blurry? No? Is that
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: it's not the real Sasquatch?
- 1:14:00Speaker 4: Well yeah, that yeah, that's true, and he's not running
- 1:14:03Speaker 4: in blurry pictures through the trees, but he Yeah, But
- 1:14:08Speaker 4: I mean he's around quite a bit, and it's just
- 1:14:12Speaker 4: been driving me crazy who's in that Sasquatch costume? Because
- 1:14:16Speaker 4: it could be anybody from any promotion anywhere, and the
- 1:14:21Speaker 4: way Evil Ohno talks about it, it's clearly a wrestler
- 1:14:26Speaker 4: that everyone knows, but I can't figure out who it.
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: Is based on his likelihood of wearing interesting costumes. I'm
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: just gonna go ahead and come out and say it.
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: I think the Sasquatch guy you're talking about is Shane.
- 1:14:45Speaker 4: It's not Shane. You all look it up and watch
- 1:14:51Speaker 4: some of the matches that Sasquatch puts on and see
- 1:14:56Speaker 4: if you can figure out who it is, because it's
- 1:15:01Speaker 4: been driving me bananas.
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: Uh yeah, uh the Sasquatch Uh is Gabe Kid?
- 1:15:11Speaker 4: No, No, it's not Gabe Kid because he was wrestling
- 1:15:16Speaker 4: on the last show I saw Sasquatch on and I
- 1:15:20Speaker 4: don't think it was Gabe Kid.
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: God, I wanted to see Gabe Kid versus Max Caster
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: so bad. I wanted to see Gabe Kid plaster him
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: across that ring.
- 1:15:30Speaker 4: I know that would be It would be awesome.
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: Max Caster is going on tour, by the way, so
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: he's going on tour for his hip hop stuff. He's
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: gonna be off AWTV for a little bit.
- 1:15:41Speaker 4: I wonder how he's gonna He's gonna come back renewed
- 1:15:44Speaker 4: and different somehow. I wonder what they're gonna do with him.
- 1:15:49Speaker 2: Where's Bowens and daddy ass.
- 1:15:52Speaker 4: Bowens? Is that NFL football combine? I think he went
- 1:15:59Speaker 4: to work out with some football team.
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: He joining the NFL.
- 1:16:06Speaker 4: No, No, just for strength and conditioning.
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: Very good.
- 1:16:11Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah by.
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: Paul Poiri is uh concertos we saw, we saw Marina
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: Shaffer and get a concerto the other day. Which are
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: we ever going to see Marina Shafir Russell ever again?
- 1:16:28Speaker 1: Or is she just gonna carry around briefcases for the
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: rest of her and you're in a W. I mean,
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: if if her contract expires, what are they gonna do?
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: What is she gonna do? Seriously? I mean, what carried
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: a briefcase? That's on her resume? I was I carried
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: a briefcase in a W. What was that? The briefcase? Nothing?
- 1:16:53Speaker 1: You know, but I don't wanna, I don't know. I
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: just go ahead.
- 1:17:00Speaker 2: Marina Shaffir, so like you know where she came from, right, Yeah,
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: she's here on thirty six in Mixed Martial Arts in
- 1:17:11Speaker 2: the UFC. Yeah yeah, I know that out of all
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: four of the original four horsemen of the Mixed Martial Arts.
- 1:17:19Speaker 2: I believe. I believe, and I'll get crushed if I'm wrong,
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: and it's fine if I'm wrong, but I believe she's
- 1:17:25Speaker 2: one of one of the only that's actually undefeated. Holly Holm.
- 1:17:30Speaker 2: Holly Holm, Shanna Basler and Ronda Rousey were all beaten.
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's fine, but I'm just saying, you know,
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: her wrestling resume is that impressive, and we were all
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: kind of hoping that she would be getting into the
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: ring and actually wrestling, but I guess not. And you know,
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: John Mosley has gone on record, I'm saying how wonderful
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: she is and how much she's learning, and she's put
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: none of that. I mean, the best wrestling move that
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: she did, and thank you very much for doing this,
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: was giving the psycho need to wheeler, you.
- 1:18:05Speaker 3: To to.
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: You know, and now she's out of action. I don't
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: know if that's going to be a storyline that's gonna
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: carry on, but because obviously she's not really hurt, but
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: for storyline purposes maybe I just think that, you know,
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to see Marina Shafir do something
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: other than beat up men. I'd like to see her
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: beat up a few women.
- 1:18:34Speaker 2: I think she's headed in the direction of Willow. Yeah,
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: but when you know, hopefully soon, Dane.
- 1:18:46Speaker 3: I just looked up Marina Shafir's record. Her Marina Shafir's
- 1:18:51Speaker 3: MMA record.
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: Is one in two, not one in two.
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: Bro.
- 1:18:56Speaker 2: She She's what hold on.
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: You may have been looking up her. You may have
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: been looking up a record in one promotion instead of
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: her overall.
- 1:19:13Speaker 3: No, he looked at her overall. It's one and two
- 1:19:16Speaker 3: one win by submission to by knock yet.
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: Well no wait no, wait wait wait wait? Is she
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: one win or two losses or three wins and no losses?
- 1:19:27Speaker 3: One win, two losses?
- 1:19:30Speaker 1: Okay, so she got knocked out two times? Okay? By
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: Wheeler you to.
- 1:19:36Speaker 4: Let's hope not let's let's ban Wheeler you toa let's
- 1:19:41Speaker 4: have a movement and a petition. I can't stand that guy.
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: Yeah, please either wheel too. By god, did you see
- 1:19:52Speaker 2: his his blood and blood out match for him entering
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: the Blackpoole Combat Club. Dude, that was convincing. He got
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: the shit kicked out of him back in twenty twenty one,
- 1:20:01Speaker 2: like to get into that faction. No, Wheeler Utah is
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: a fantastic he's just not being used in a manner
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: that makes you believe that he's a good wrestler.
- 1:20:11Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just aggravating.
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: He's he's a little bitch.
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: At late. Well, he's actually turning into a little lama
- 1:20:21Speaker 1: now with that haircut.
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: They've they've marketed him at that's how they sold him.
- 1:20:27Speaker 2: He's a little bitch, he's JD McDonough's. He's the JD
- 1:20:31Speaker 2: McDonough of a w and JD dude literally just injured
- 1:20:35Speaker 2: himself doing something extreme in WWE and looked fantastic doing it.
- 1:20:40Speaker 2: Praise the wheeler you to He's fantastic wrestler.
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: Does anybody else have any pot poiries?
- 1:20:49Speaker 3: I just want to touch on. This is not an
- 1:20:53Speaker 3: aw but Oscar roasted to IWC over the weekend and
- 1:21:00Speaker 3: it was the funniest thing you'll ever read on Twitter.
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: That's it.
- 1:21:13Speaker 3: I'm gonna put it in chat. I'm gonna put in chat.
- 1:21:15Speaker 1: Well, our listeners can't see the chat though. That's the issue.
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: Hold on, that's ESPN. It's growing too. Give me a second.
- 1:21:25Speaker 4: I have been pushing for a w to sell Megan
- 1:21:29Speaker 4: Bain's head piece, and I've been going around calling myself netasaur,
- 1:21:35Speaker 4: the netasaurus. So let's let's go with that.
- 1:21:42Speaker 1: Her head would not be included in the head piece,
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: all right, No.
- 1:21:46Speaker 4: I just I want the headpiece that is fantastic. So yeah,
- 1:21:51Speaker 4: you know, for.
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: A while now, and I've always thought that it looked
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: really spectacular.
- 1:21:56Speaker 4: I'd wear that. The work I'd be in the grocery
- 1:21:59Speaker 4: store or you know.
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: Just I wish I had one. I'd be wearing it
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: around the house.
- 1:22:04Speaker 4: I probably can see yeah, you know, video chat with
- 1:22:08Speaker 4: you calson and we could compare them. So I mean, yeah,
- 1:22:15Speaker 4: see or.
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: If you want to sh you know, shorten up, you
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: can just call me Jackass. And with that, we're gonna
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: where we're gonna end the show, uh again tomorrow night,
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: right after Dynamite, We're gonna be we'll do a little
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: bit of a Dynamite review. We're not gonna go segment
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: by segment. We're just gonna touch on some hot points
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: because we are going to do really concentrate on previewing
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: and predicting not only the matches at Revolution, but some
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: of the stuff that may happen, because personally, I think
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: we're gonna see some interesting stuff. There's a lot when
- 1:22:58Speaker 1: you look at this card for Revolution, there is a
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: lot that can happen that's been set up to happen,
- 1:23:05Speaker 1: and it just depends on whether that how much Tody
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: Kahan pulls the trigger. He's got to say something. But
- 1:23:14Speaker 1: there's some really interesting stuff that could happen at Revolution.
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it tomorrow. Maybe we'll get
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: some hints on Dynamite. So watch Dynamite, join us in
- 1:23:26Speaker 1: the live chat at the aw foundob sub reddit, and
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: we will see you here on Discord tomorrow night in
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: the Ignition and at stage channel again. If you want
- 1:23:42Speaker 1: to join us and make your predictions, turn your mic on,
- 1:23:44Speaker 1: or just come into the audience and use text and
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: just join us and have some fun tomorrow night, because
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: that's what it's all about. So for the aw fan
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: podcast team, this has been Ignition, and this is Kelson.
- 1:24:01Speaker 2: And Shane d Max and that.
- 1:24:08Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, Eddie Kingston, Eddie Kingston, these nuts.
- 1:24:18Speaker 3: Got him the world slipt nuts appeared.
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: I don't do it Eddie Kingston impersonation, at least not
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: one that I can do on air. I mean, I
- 1:24:28Speaker 1: can just make fart noises.
- 1:24:30Speaker 2: Redeem these nuts. I p Mirro.
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: Dane, I cover you if there was an exploding barbed
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: wire near us. I'm just saying that, you know, hiro.
- 1:24:53Speaker 4: Good night everyone,