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Episode 73: Losing Our Minds over Andor Episodes 5 and 6! · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  Hello, there. It's time for most things
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  Kenobi. Hi everyone, welcome to another
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  episode of most things Kenobi. A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi
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  and all things Star Wars. I'm your host Lauren, and I'm
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  your host Leanne, and this week, we're going back to.
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  And, or yeah, we have to it's necessary.
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  My head is still blown right off my neck from episode six.
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  So, you know, she still searching for it somewhere in
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  her living room somewhere. They got.
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  This is just the Phantom head of mine.
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  That's speak. Right now, that's weird.
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  Why did I Santa Menace head? Yeah.
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  Oh, oh God. It's too early for this shit for
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  you. Well, we're not just talking
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  about episode 64 talking about episode 52.
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  Yes. Yeah, because we did for by
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  itself, and then five and six were just so damn good.
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  So damn good. Five was the build-up and six
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  was the explosion. Yeah.
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  Oh my God. So accurate.
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  I just oh my God. Yeah I was.
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  I was like I was gasping and I literally went.
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  Whoo. Oh my God.
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  Yeah episode 6 and I'm sitting alone in the middle of the
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  night. Wrapped in a blanket on my gosh
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  like screeching. I was so nervous and fidgety.
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  And like constant nerves, like yes, just constant nervous
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  because of the anticip anticipation that they built up.
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  Yeah, I mean they did it. Expertly did, I was shaking?
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  I was sitting in my blanket trembling from nerves because I
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  just I just didn't know what was gonna happen, which I love about
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  this show. I love Yeah.
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  And not only that but it was probably one of the most
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  visually stunning things I've ever seen on TV period.
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  Yes, same just period. And if statement, it was a work
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  of art, it is filming on location.
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  Makes all the difference. It makes a difference even in
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  the performance which seems like it might not.
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  But you did, you can't hide it. When you're standing in the
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  Scottish Highlands freezing your ass off and that's part of your
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  Foreman's. You know, like it's yeah, it's
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  really cool. And speaking of that, one of our
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  patrons, Adam pointed out. And I did a little research on
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  this, that they actually chose to film in the Scottish
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  Highlands on purpose. They filmed in a location.
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  It was called Glen tilt Park in Northern Perth.
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  Sure. And it's like a, it's a national
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  park, or it's their National Park, something like that, and
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  it is where Scottish people. All were driven out of their
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  homes back in the ancient times like an old England.
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  When the Brits went up there and force them out of their homes,
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  which is what. Well, that's that's perfectly in
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  line with what's happening. Yeah.
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  And they cultural aspect of these episodes and this part of
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  the story, which, I absolutely love.
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  I loved the part of the pilgrims if you were coming to the to see
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  the star, Aries or comments or whatever this thing.
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  Yes, beautiful, show, The Cosmic I of beauty.
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  It was amazing when I just love the care that the filmmakers
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  have the filmmakers, showrunners, whatever you want
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  to call it that like filmmakers. Yeah, seriously these are it's
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  like a film. These are single movies, one,
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  each one and like the fact that they wanted to film in a
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  location that represented, what? They, the story they were
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  telling because it matters to them to represent yet.
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  I just love that. It's so It's so the opposite of
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  what we get from Hollywood, most of the time true as?
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  Yeah, I mean it's nothing. Nobody has to do this but they
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  did it right? And I think it's important.
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  I like that. They did it.
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  Yeah, I agree. It's meaningful.
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  It adds it is layers of meaning to something that's why it's art
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  that it's like the thing that elevates it to Art instead of
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  just entertainment. You know?
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  Yeah. Well, it's, it's definitely art
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  and it's definitely entertaining in a way that I wasn't
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  expecting. I am pulled in by the drama of
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  it. Meaning, the high-stakes, you
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  know, the you're rooting for these people.
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  You're rooting for this. These groups.
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  Of, you know, these Rebels that are kind of just beginning and
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  I'm talking, not just the boots on the ground, but the people
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  behind the scenes funding it and caring about it, such as
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  Lutheran, who is actually afraid shaking hands are shaking and
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  episode 5 for this group of people.
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  He cares that much. And you know, he's listening in
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  on the old radio or you know, trying to tap in and hear how
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  things are going or if everything is okay.
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  And finally his assistant just had to say, you know, you got to
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  step away or you're going to drive yourself crazy.
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  Yeah. His performance is so perfect.
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  And the fact that you can see how he's like a nervous father,
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  It just, I just want to hear one thing to know.
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  I just want to know, they're okay.
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  Is everyone? All right?
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  Is everything going? And I don't think it's because
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  he's afraid of being caught. I think he's afraid of losing
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  these people. Well, especially they'll not
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  valve. L.
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  Is his daughter, which could be very good, adding a new layer.
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  Yeah. That because I was scared for
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  her and the other woman Santa him.
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  Yeah, yeah, they work. First of all, in episode 6,
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  we're going to be jumping around so just Hold on, if you're Steve
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  please, they are fucking bad-ass.
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  Hmm, they take no shit. They kick ass and take names and
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  the way that cinta like dealt with the captives.
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  Holy shit, she fucking freak me out Stone.
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  I would take orders from her any day, like yes, ma'am.
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  Yes, I will, but everything works.
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  I'll be quiet. Yeah, I loved that moment.
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  We're Owl said to the commander of the I don't remember
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  everyone's names either because I you know it takes me a while
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  to remember names even in real life but oh sure the guy the
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  like lead Commander who's gonna like have you said with the
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  mustache and they need his hand to open the vault when he says
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  you just kill us anyway and she said because that's what you
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  would do, right? Yeah, exactly.
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  Loved that boy is so cool. Perfect Point.
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  Well done? And oh, go ahead.
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  Of us are excited. I know it's so good.
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  I thought it was interesting that they added that she was
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  like nervous before you read my mind.
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  I wanted to talk about that because that's a turning point.
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  Once she jumps over that ledge and calls it her and all of
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  their lives are on borrowed time.
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  Yes, either this works or it doesn't and I would be exact We
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  like that she's literally jumping off a ledge physically
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  and metaphorically. Yeah, so true.
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  So smart. It's so good.
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  I felt that like, it's, it's cool to like plan and prepare
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  and get, you know, in each other's faces and do you trust
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  us? And and then when you're
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  standing on the ledge with seconds to go, mmm, your stomach
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  is going to bottom out. Yeah, because you've reached the
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  point where it becomes desperately scary.
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  Re and you just have to trust your training have to do it.
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  Yeah, that's it. But then, of course, we see her
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  build the confidence, once she takes that leap, she's in it.
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  Then she starts manhandling people and throwing that rifle
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  around and yeah, man. Did I love it?
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  She was in charge as fucking crate and I didn't think they
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  were going to have the, the Empire dude.
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  Help them carry the credits. Like they put him to work.
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  The man had a heart attack. He was sweaty as fuck.
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  And I was like, God damn, he's not cut out for this and then he
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  killed over. Oh my gosh, I was like yep.
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  Yeah. So many moments of tension in
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  there, like you could see there was that one guard that they had
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  to take an extra minute to shove him down and then he is the one
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  who tried to kill Cassie and later.
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  Yeah, then the first tents tents and then is it, I can can never
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  pronounce his name, right? Is it mimic the young kid?
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  I can't remember the young king which is everybody's favorite
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  and I'm an asshole and Care. Remember my name but he was like
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  the spiritual one. Yeah.
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  The one who had the true belief and then, but he didn't die.
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  In vain. He was awful the way they made
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  him. Hang on to, like, finish the
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  job. Yeah.
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  And he struggled through it and then died.
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  That was very painful. People have been posting the
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  parallels of Him screaming to Cassie and climb the same way.
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  K2 was screaming at him to climb in Rogue one and I was only my
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  heart died, I didn't know this. And now I have wasn't prepared
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  for this and you're right and I don't like how I feel right now.
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  I'm sorry. Deep breathing.
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  Yeah, that's very sad but it's very Oh that's oh my God.
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  This show is so like it's so poignant and so Ruthless to the
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  viewers in a way because they're just like hitting you with the
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  Rogue one. Parallels constantly in a way.
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  That's so beautiful, and sad. And moving all at the same time,
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  I'm very sad right now. That made me very sad.
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  Don't, it's not your fault. It's just I never made the
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  connections and that hurts, but that's why we like Star Wars.
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  This this this whole will see. This whole side of Star Wars has
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  been really fun and it's still it's so different than what
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  we're used to and yet I really like it because we're getting
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  the normal person's point of view.
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  Hmm in all of this and I hate to say normal, but you know what I
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  mean, not a jot of gifted Jedi. Not a Skywalker, not a any kind
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  of Yoda, not any kind of Mandalore, and I'm not knocking
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  those people. They are fixtures in the Galaxy,
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  but none of that worked without the people that we're now seeing
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  in this show. And I think they're executing it
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  just brilliantly because we saw in episode 5 and you.
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  And I talked about it, the pissing match between like, yes
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  Cassie. And, and what's the guys?
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  What do you guys name, skiing? Yes, we're tension.
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  Get real high and he goes to cut the Khyber necklace off.
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  Yes. And you said it best that could
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  have been a pissing match in any other show, where two men go at
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  it and someone has to calm them down but instead it was
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  emotional and vulnerable. And it culminated in something
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  that wasn't the typical thing that we'd see.
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  Yes, mmm, I don't know. You said it best.
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  Now I'm struggling to remember how you phrased it but you
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  phrased it the best that that scene was on point.
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  Just the way like you said, it could have turned into this
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  typical confrontation and instead Cassie and turned it
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  into. It's like he's so perceptive
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  that he, he saw it for what it really was.
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  It's not happy. Love's up pissing contest.
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  It's this guy looking for an excuse to back out because he's
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  afraid and yeah, and look what. We ended up finding out in
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  episode 6, man. Was that crazy, but I love
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  looking good. I love when Cassie and said,
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  like, of course, I'm afraid. Fear is not the same as losing
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  your nerve. Yes!
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  Yes. And I want that on a sticker
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  meat because, holy shit, if that didn't drive home for me, Me say
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  him and you can be scary, yes, it's normal to be scared but
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  it's not the same thing as losing your nerve which casting
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  was afraid, but he didn't lose his nerve and that's not
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  something most of us are born with.
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  That's something we learn, right?
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  And he's constantly reassuring this group of people, so what
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  has happened to him? Oh, we're going to find out.
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  I flashbacks are still coming. I really hope so. there's a
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  there's a plan here of how their unraveling this and I think it's
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  we're getting all these questions now because we're
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  seeing more and I think they'll be wrapped up in what we end up
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  finding out what happened back on his home planet, with his
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  group of Children. Yeah, abandoned children
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  orphans. What?
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  Yeah, we don't even know whatever you would call them.
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  Well, then he says in episode 5, he has that other conversation
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  with skiing where they're talking, he recognizes like
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  prison tattoos and skiing. Mmm.
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  And he says he was sent to prison when he was 13 years old.
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  Yeah. And he was there for three years
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  and then he was released it, was it MIM bomb or whatever?
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  I can never pronounce too many M's, and it's hard.
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  We have put. Yeah.
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  It's true but it's where solo starts where Han Solo is okay.
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  Fighting? Yes that's where Cassian was.
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  Said. Which is really interesting
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  because I was going to bring up a comparison.
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  The scene with casseon and skiing when the whole things
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  over and the kids getting worked on to see if they can save him
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  and Vel is in there with him and they're outside and khattak as
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  he just wants his money and he's ready to leave.
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  Hmm, and then there's skiing right to me.
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  Hear me out both of them exuded qualities that we saw in Han.
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  Yes, they just want their money and they want to leave and they
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  don't want to get caught up, okay?
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  But Cassie and ended up having Han Solo's loyalty or we're
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  going to see him have the Loyalty because we know where
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  this goes and skiing was what could have been if Han Solo did
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  peace out? Yep.
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  So it was kind of, I was looking at it like, oh, okay.
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  The obvious thing is that hon just wanted out he wanted paid
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  he was delivering Obi-Wan and Luke.
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  That was it But then he made a choice to stay because someone
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  who said to him, all you cared about was payment or so, it was
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  a Luke or later. All of them are me when he
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  leaves, but then he comes back because that's what you're best
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  at, right? Isn't that what Luke says?
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  Yes. Yes.
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  So like I thought it was interesting that scene I was
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  getting Vibes of like Han Solo's choice and what he chose in the
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  end was the loyalty and it's not about the payment which
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  obviously we're going to see Cassie and go through.
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  Yeah. Totally thought it was shit.
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  That skiing was was skeevy. Skiing was Stevie, and he said,
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  he didn't have a brother. I was like, you fucking bastard.
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  Like, even I cared about your stupid brother.
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  It doesn't exist. Oh, and when he said to Cassian,
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  I recognized you right off the bat, you know, you and I are the
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  same kind of people. We were all over each other to
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  get out of the mud. You know, and the look on Cassie
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  and face as And the nimac said something to him as well, like
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  you have no beliefs, like you don't even have anything, that's
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  why you sleep so. Well, in the morning and Cassie,
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  it said, well, you're half, right?
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  And he said it was something about the Empire, but I think
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  it's because Cassian has beliefs about 7, and he has a code of
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  honor so to speak. But he hides it because you
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  can't have that around the Empire.
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  It makes you weak. Sure.
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  Yeah. So I just thought that watching
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  his face change it. Even was talking to him.
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  If you watched like Diego's loot.
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  Diego Luna's micro-expressions. He's fucking amazing.
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  I, it's like a twitch of the corner of his mouth.
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  That that's it. It's crazy.
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  He's on another level. All right.
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  The the like he was disgusted by it.
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  Hmm, and almost like how dare you lump me in the same group as
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  you? Yeah.
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  And I think skiing was just hoping kassian was like him
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  because he needed someone to help him get out of there.
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  Yeah, because he doesn't know how to fly the thing.
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  Mhm. So scheme was wrong.
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  And that was that? Yeah.
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  Yeah. There was the girls is going to
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  say about that. I loved one of our, one of our
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  patrons said that she was watching the show with her
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  husband and she was like, he is, he said, Cassy, is the kind of
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  guy to shoot first and ask questions later.
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  It's so true because he's he liked his already shot people.
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  He like makes his decision really quickly.
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  Yes, I'm okay with that. Well, it's interesting.
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  It's actually kind of interesting because he he knows
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  right away when he's backed into a corner and there's one way out
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  of it. He's what he's got to do.
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  Yeah and it's just best if he doesn't dwell on it he just goes
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  for it. Yeah.
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  And again like where the fuck does that come from right
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  prison? Probably but well maybe Maybe
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  maybe it was a survival thing at first on that on that planet and
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  then it became another type of survival.
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  I think because you know, things can morph, that's a really good
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  point. We haven't talked about Cyril,
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  Cyril, Cyril in his cereal, seen.
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  So, say that five times fast yet.
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  There's no, I get. It was his name once.
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  Did anyone think it was interesting that his little bowl
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  of Coco Puffs look like little planets where you just little,
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  you know, that's going to be for sale at the Disney parks?
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  No, absolutely 100% right next to the bloom.
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  Station. I have a blue milk in a green
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  milk station, so I would order that.
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  Hey side. Note-- did, you know that her
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  universe is having kiosks in malls across the United States.
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  Now know for a limited time only really?
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  Yes, just saw it on Twitter. Good to know I have a minimum
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  all for like ten years true but they may sell the cereal.
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  Now, I'm just kidding. I guess what I'm saying is if
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  the cereal pops up, I won't be surprised.
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  Yeah, same. Yeah.
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  I wonder what it tastes like. I need to know the answer to who
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  the fuck? His uncle is.
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  Yes, I can't wait. He's got to be okay.
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  I I can't say that for sure but I'm wondering is he like a
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  mobster? And is he going to put like
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  Mobsters after Cassian? Like I I had the strange theory
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  that his uncle is the old white dude.
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  In the round room at the, at the At the Empire Place.
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  You know, where what's-her-name with the bun?
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  Is the iasb got? Yeah.
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  Well yeah, the is be. I was like, wouldn't that be
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  some shit? Because fucking awesome.
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  I have a feeling Cyril. And what's your name, Deidre?
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  Dear drum are gonna come together at some point.
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  That's my gut feeling head. It makes sense because they're
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  kind of going after the same thing with the same tenacity,
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  honestly. Well, she's onto something.
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  She's don't know where your motive.
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  Our yet yet. I love her her.
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  She's and she's an actress who uses her eyes, a lot.
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  And like the look of disgust in your mouth, which is talking
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  about the rebels, this is so good, she's really good at that.
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  Yeah, she's really good at at this, this character that she
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  plays. Yeah.
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  She's gonna want to know more. I'm dying to know more me too
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  and she has her assistant or whatever who is very loyal to
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  her and like encouraging her to continue with her train of
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  thought, even when her boss Tells her not to and then did
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  you see she took pills? Yes, I need those.
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  I don't know what they are, but I need them.
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  They're probably some sort of stimulant so she could keep
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  working through the night. Yes.
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  Yes. I need a dozen.
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  That was cool Disney. Listen Disney.
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  If you're gonna sell the cereal, you need to sell the caffeine
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  pills because listen, I'm a shift worker and I need that
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  shit. The last thing we need from
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  Disney's medication. Well, that's true.
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  Okay. All right, let me let me back
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  this up in theory, if such a thing existed from some company,
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  I would buy a case there Star Wars brand stimulation, you need
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  to be, do you need to be Monmouth man hosted dinner party
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  and be to a rebellion by a to my God.
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  Take two of these with water and an empty stomach and you'll be
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  Jazz ago. You'll be casting shade on your
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  shit husband and no time in any other.
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  She has a fucking daughter shit daughter.
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  Also, my God damn, who knew that mon mothma had a whole mess of a
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  family that honestly just made my heart sink.
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  Then that is depressing. Watch that.
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  That's such a woman. I mean, I guess it shows that
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  every person Has baggage stuff? Yeah, nothing's perfect.
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  T' that was just mean so shitty. I was so mad at her daughter.
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  I was just like, I'm gonna yank, your stupid braids off your
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  head. You respect mon mothma you will
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  because everyone does except you you little brat.
• 23:04
  Sorry. No, no.
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  Her name is lead ra. Which is if you remove the D,
• 23:10
  her name is Leia. Oh dear.
• 23:13
  So stop being a dick and you'll be late.
• 23:17
  Or not, you're really has got her own level of asshole but we
• 23:23
  love her for it. Yeah, that's just the Skywalker.
• 23:26
  She in her sis that actress. Don't who plays her daughter.
• 23:30
  She's from the Christopher Robin movie with Ewan McGregor.
• 23:35
  Oh, I didn't put it together right away.
• 23:37
  I was just like, I was like, I know this person, but she was a
• 23:40
  little kid in that movie and now she's more grown up, which is
• 23:43
  why I didn't like connect it right away that she's so good at
• 23:46
  being bratty. It was heartbreaking.
• 23:51
  But can we please go back to Cyril?
• 23:53
  Because I love his mother. His mother.
• 23:58
  His mother is something, isn't she?
• 24:00
  Oh my God and that performance I felt In my bones.
• 24:08
  She's mrs. Fig from Harry Potter, she
• 24:12
  absolutely is. We haven't forgotten that but
• 24:15
  she she has a very distinct voice.
• 24:18
  Yes, a very distinct manner of presenting herself and she's
• 24:22
  very effective. As the overbearing mother.
• 24:26
  Her dialogue performance was very unexpected.
• 24:30
  She doesn't deliver a single line.
• 24:32
  The way. A status quo performance would
• 24:35
  be, she would take her vowels and go up with them in a spot.
• 24:40
  I never expected. She was just her.
• 24:42
  Performance is really engaging to me, and I know I'm gonna love
• 24:46
  to hate her, but I need to know where his dad is like, how did
• 24:50
  what's happening there? Because we only see the mother?
• 24:53
  Yeah, no one else in the house And what's that?
• 24:56
  Oh, what's the debt from Uncle home Hugo?
• 25:01
  Or what's his name? So sad, what's up, something
• 25:04
  with an H? Maybe, I don't know.
• 25:06
  Yeah, I there was one moment to girl, Harlow, Harlow, Uncle
• 25:11
  Harlow. That's it.
• 25:14
  There was one moment that I didn't catch the first time I
• 25:16
  saw it because I was too busy looking at Searles face and he
• 25:22
  is sitting in his bedroom. It might even be the scene where
• 25:25
  he's got the A gram of Cassian but he's sitting in his bedroom
• 25:28
  and he's looking at the window and the sun crosses his face, it
• 25:32
  disappears and it's like the amount of sunlight they get in
• 25:35
  their apartment is for like 10 seconds total.
• 25:40
  He had does seem like a dark apartment.
• 25:41
  It was such an interesting moment like to show him and he
• 25:47
  almost looked like he was gonna cry.
• 25:49
  It was so hard but I love it. I don't know where this is going
• 25:53
  but it feels like it can go nowhere.
• 25:55
  We're good. Well, it's depressing for a
• 25:58
  reason. Yeah I just don't know how
• 26:02
  severe is he going to become if Anna it I think you said it
• 26:08
  before it like a desperate person is a dangerous person.
• 26:13
  Yeah. Someone who has nothing to lose
• 26:15
  loses nothing. Yeah.
• 26:16
  So he's at his potential Rock Bottom.
• 26:21
  Yeah. And his mother's got a sharp
• 26:23
  shrewd eye on him. So it lets say Go Harlow pulls
• 26:27
  through, for whatever, in whatever, manner I have.
• 26:32
  The feeling that Cyril is going to be posing as another role
• 26:38
  that he can't do. He's like the definition of
• 26:42
  imposter syndrome. Yeah although he is an impostor,
• 26:46
  he can't do anything imposter syndrome.
• 26:48
  Implies that you do have what it takes but you feel like you
• 26:51
  don't know. He doesn't have what it takes
• 26:54
  and he feels like he does. Yeah.
• 26:56
  So maybe not the definition but the reversal.
• 26:59
  Mmm, this is interested. Yes, what would that if it'd be
• 27:01
  cold? I don't know.
• 27:04
  Well, he hoser it. Yes.
• 27:06
  Yeah, accurate. So I think he's gonna To another
• 27:11
  posing roll. I imagined that he is the kind
• 27:14
  of person who's going to get himself in over his head real
• 27:17
  quick solutely and he doesn't learn.
• 27:20
  Unless it's the opposite. Where his whoever this person is
• 27:24
  recognizes that his strength is, his smart smart, meanness that
• 27:31
  maybe he could be some sort of mole or used as a means to an
• 27:37
  end, even as a patsy, that's speaking of Of yes.
• 27:42
  Good Segway. Okay.
• 27:44
  Isaac. The kind of using Cassian as a
• 27:50
  patsy. Okay, A bit interested to see
• 27:54
  where this goes in the next episode, because Val said and or
• 27:59
  goes out first, so she switched places with him so that he's in
• 28:03
  the point position. For means, you're in the most,
• 28:06
  he's Expendable. Yes.
• 28:08
  And so, it's like, if you're gonna get shot, the first person
• 28:10
  had the door usually, is that. So, they move him into that
• 28:13
  position. And then later, she hands him
• 28:16
  nemec's Manifesto, which at first everyone's like, oh, you
• 28:21
  know, that's That's really meaningful.
• 28:24
  But is it? So, if case he gets caught, he's
• 28:27
  the one to be blamed. Oh, sure.
• 28:30
  Because he looks like the fanatic with a Manifesto.
• 28:34
  True. So I'm very interested to see.
• 28:37
  Maybe it won't turn out to be that at all but I think he is
• 28:40
  also starting to feel the awareness of that.
• 28:42
  Which is why he shot skiing is it's like well shit.
• 28:46
  Yeah he's been put on point to get killed first.
• 28:49
  Then skiing temps him to steal the money which for all we know
• 28:54
  maybe skiing was lying, could have been could have been what
• 28:58
  happened? And then they hand him a
• 28:59
  Manifesto even when he's like, I want nothing to do with you.
• 29:04
  Yeah, I just thought it was interesting and all the little
• 29:08
  bit suspicious and I think that's why he went in there at
• 29:11
  gunpoint and was like, I'm taking my money and I'm peacing
• 29:15
  out because you all are trying to set me up.
• 29:18
  Maybe he was getting that suspicion.
• 29:20
  I don't know. That was the suspicion.
• 29:21
  I started to feel. Yeah, yeah, I need to see where
• 29:26
  this Manifesto goes because you sent me pictures that someone
• 29:29
  sent you Patron. Right?
• 29:31
  Yeah. Charlotte that the manifesto.
• 29:34
  Is in his fucking pocket. In Rogue one.
• 29:37
  It looks like a Rockin. Yeah.
• 29:40
  So really, what does all of this mean?
• 29:45
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:46
  There's like a little, it looks like the same exact shape and
• 29:49
  size and it has a leather cord wrapped around it.
• 29:53
  Stuck to the outside of Kasi ins blue parka and if you look at it
• 29:58
  close, it's a metal box. But that doesn't mean that like
• 30:01
  this Manifesto is not inside the metal box.
• 30:04
  It looks identical. And so like if it is actually a
• 30:09
  deeply meaningful thing, if it's showing up in Rogue one, that's
• 30:14
  fucking crazy. To me.
• 30:17
  Well, the Escape scene of them and the Tie fighters flying
• 30:21
  through that Cosmic show. Oh, my God, amazing.
• 30:25
  I was, I was one part absolutely astounded by how beautiful it
• 30:29
  was and another part on the seat of my fucking.
• 30:35
  On the edge of my seat. Hmm, not on the seat of my Edge
• 30:40
  on the edge of my seat because it was so intense and Cassie and
• 30:47
  had to trust. And it was very it was hard for
• 30:50
  me to trust you because look at that shit.
• 30:52
  They were flying through. It was gorgeous but it was
• 30:55
  deadly in like they made it. Yeah.
• 30:58
  So I could definitely see how without hit the kids help.
• 31:04
  They wouldn't have made it, you know, not even with Cassie and
• 31:07
  flying abilities. Yeah, it's just no way.
• 31:10
  Yeah. So maybe he does keep it as a
• 31:13
  reminder, right. His first real reminder, when he
• 31:18
  makes that executive decision like we're going for the doctor
• 31:21
  like we're just that's not even a question.
• 31:22
  Ooh, yes. So yep.
• 31:24
  Yeah, I did like the little things they added when he's
• 31:27
  like, what do you what did you give him?
• 31:28
  Have you looked at the window? We can't fly through this like,
• 31:32
  yeah. And the Tie fighters were So
• 31:34
  coolly an amazing when they were, I was telling you when
• 31:39
  they were getting into the Tie fighters and strapping in it was
• 31:43
  so very original Star Wars to me, because they always show the
• 31:47
  pilots getting in. Yep.
• 31:49
  And, like, gearing up. And I was just like, oh God,
• 31:52
  this is so Star Wars and I fucking love it and they're like
• 31:56
  turning the little dial switch other edge of the thing, like a
• 31:59
  hater. Does that?
• 32:00
  I was yes, I was loving it. Yeah, yeah.
• 32:04
  I I just I'll never Tire of seeing a TIE fighter or one of
• 32:08
  their pilots. I just it's one of those things
• 32:10
  that's like distinctly Star Wars.
• 32:15
  It's feel like from day one. If I ever got to be in Star Wars
• 32:20
  in that costume, I'd freak out. I would never want to take it
• 32:24
  off. I take so many selfies.
• 32:26
  Oh yeah, without a doubt. Oh my God, it's so damn cool.
• 32:33
  It's so good. you know what's interesting is that I so I guess
• 32:42
  the show goes in three episode arcs.
• 32:44
  Mmm. so we have come to the conclusion of this set of three
• 32:50
  episodes and I believe it was Tony Gilroy that said that yeah,
• 32:58
  Tony Gilroy says that episode 7, deviates from what we've seen so
• 33:01
  far in the, in the way that it's structured.
• 33:04
  Yeah. So I'm I'm curious and
• 33:09
  intrigued. I hope it's still about Cassie
• 33:11
  and because the Mandalorian and book a Boba Fett, though, I had
• 33:16
  Joy where they just went way the fuck off course, to talk about
• 33:19
  Luke Skywalker. It is kind of like absolutely.
• 33:22
  Yes. Pam.
• 33:23
  Everyone was kind of like, hey, Remember how this show is called
• 33:25
  book of Boba Fett. Where was it?
• 33:28
  I hope that they don't go off course, in a way that was like,
• 33:32
  does it involve cast and at all because even though we have six
• 33:36
  episodes left, I'm like please don't waste our time.
• 33:40
  I know. Well maybe they'll they'll hit
• 33:44
  on. I mean the closing scene we get
• 33:48
  in episode 6 was the best. It was luthan.
• 33:52
  Practically dancing celebrating that everything went up went.
• 33:58
  Well yeah and I just I felt that I was just like I was so happy
• 34:03
  for him because he was so nervous.
• 34:06
  Those are great and to have that person in his waiting room or
• 34:11
  whatever. Say Do you have anything from
• 34:12
  L.E? I was like, I know, even my
• 34:15
  heart stopped for a second. Yeah.
• 34:19
  Like, what did he mean by that? It's just that it shows.
• 34:21
  Like the constant paranoia and pressure, they must live under
• 34:26
  but it's great. So Skarsgård is so good.
• 34:29
  I really am enjoying my God. He's he's he's just wonderful.
• 34:33
  I'm I just I love him already. Yeah, I know he's probably not.
• 34:41
  I'm going to make it because I never see him again in Star Wars
• 34:45
  and that's gotta mean something. But Yeah.
• 34:49
  Maybe we'll maybe the deviation in the upcoming episode or
• 34:52
  episodes will be the introduction of one saw gerrera.
• 34:59
  Oh, baby. Yeah, he's that's right.
• 35:02
  Because there's scenes. I got to wrap him in to it.
• 35:05
  These big gotta wrap them into this.
• 35:06
  Yeah, that would be interesting. But maybe not, I don't know.
• 35:11
  I'm just speculating. Yeah, that'd be cool.
• 35:13
  I wonder if Cassie will go home. I feel like he must because they
• 35:17
  did that one scene where they showed the Empire.
• 35:21
  Kind of, installing that guy. Yes, barracks.
• 35:26
  And yeah, they were using that building as an office space.
• 35:30
  Basically, he basically, and he wanted to be made prefect.
• 35:35
  Whatever that means, because that's kind of, like, a newer
• 35:38
  term unless they've used it in books and gravity uses Harry
• 35:43
  Potter, right? That's what I kept thinking.
• 35:46
  It's like a prefect or prefect is head, boy or head, girl?
• 35:51
  Right is, or is that different any of various High officials or
• 35:56
  magistrates of differing functions in ranks in ancient
• 35:59
  Rome? That's definition one.
• 36:01
  Yeah. Number two a chief officer or
• 36:04
  chief Magistrate Or number three, a student monitor in a
• 36:07
  usually private school. Okay, so he's basically by those
• 36:13
  definitions is like an independent.
• 36:17
  Person to wield power. Yeah.
• 36:20
  Like do I have free reign to do whatever I want on this planet?
• 36:22
  Yes or no. Yeah.
• 36:23
  Like you can make the laws make up his own laws as he wants do.
• 36:27
  Whatever he wants with that with impunity.
• 36:29
  So it's seems like an Empire thing.
• 36:32
  Yeah, that sounds about right. So why show that guy?
• 36:35
  If it's not gonna have something to do with Cassie?
• 36:38
  And at some point I think it will, I hope he comes back and
• 36:42
  saves Marva and takes her somewhere secret and hides her
• 36:46
  in the Droid. Yes, the Droid little emo.
• 36:51
  Emo. So he can be be more emo
• 36:54
  somewhere, safe and sound for the rest of their day, okay?
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