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Where the Crawdads Sing by Delia Owens - Part 2 · Lose the Plot with Carla and Emily

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Hi friends. You're listening to lose the
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plot with color and Emily. Welcome to part 2 of reading
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where the core dancing. By Delia Owens, we are covering
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chapters 22 257 in this episode. So warning there will be
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spoilers I'm Carla and unworthy boys.
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Boys, make a lot of noise. I'm Emily and I are we really
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surprised we will start off with predictions that weren't really
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predictions. Let's be real.
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Yeah it's a one-track book, we're all on the same train.
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You've been at one point we were like it was the detective I
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think I'm just trying to make it like slightly exciting for
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myself and it just, you know what, I noticed right away.
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Is that the first part of the book was called the marsh.
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And then the second part, Called the song.
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Why did they force us to call it?
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The marsh only to have the second part of the book called
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The Swamp is like Tate, the marsh and chases the Swarm.
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He's got to stand by. Yes, swamp on us.
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Why would we only allowed to call it the marsh and then now
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she's giving us free rein to call this long Delia Please Kill
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Ya. Julia please we need anyway.
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Sorry. So now she's 19 and I'm very
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excited because now I can get over the licky underage.
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Shit, what was going on in the first part?
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Yes, she's no longer a literate either also, it helps none of
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our predictions matted really because what the fuck?
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Okay? The book started off as struggle
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pawn and then it sort of turned into like a potential romance
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and then it turned into this really long-winded court case.
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Yes, murdered book. I kind of lost a lot of Interest
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in the I don't know its importance of the way through I
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skimmed. That's it.
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That's why I read it really fast.
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You know how we never really knew how Chase Andrews connected
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at all, we have no info. So part two of this book is
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we're finally understanding what that connection is and yeah I
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didn't expect it to be what it was.
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I did. I don't know why I did, I only
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did because I seen some girl in Tick-Tock say something like
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Like how did this Marsh girl get not one but two men while I
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can't even get one. So right, so you knew it was
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going to go somewhere. Yeah, I'll be surprised that
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he's personality shit because I'm not know every week, we sort
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of knew that Loki from the beginning.
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This Is Where It Starts is she's like, kind of spying on Chase
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Andrews with him. And he asked her on a picnic.
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That was like, that was like, what what how did we get here?
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Chase Andrews is description is giving me Prince?
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Eric because he had black hair and blue eyes are good like a
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basic Prince Eric, you know what I mean?
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Yeah, we finally get the explanation about tape not
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coming back and it wasn't because he found a girl with big
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nipples, so we thought it would be.
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What the fuck? Take this is so stupid.
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I cannot get over. Like I want to shake him.
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He's so stupid. So stupid!
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He got invited to a bird Expedition by a professor that
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he He really respected and he just couldn't say no to the
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opportunity. What?
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I lose heart, you're gonna leave your underage your friend
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because of a bad. She you know what?
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She'd be okay with that. She's a little bird girl.
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He could have just explained it. He admits he was a coward.
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But bro what is going on. Yeah, you didn't even ask her if
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she wanted to leave the marsh. I thought I just thought it was
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wild like a bird Expedition. Really he really is that much of
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a dork. So I was kind of like things
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working. That's what I mean.
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This birth fucking dog's owner dossal, Ned marshes, but he
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stopped her from a distance. He came home, close enough to
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see her close enough to explain why he didn't come back.
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Exactly then. And he still just decided her
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stalker. I mean, he was already a grown
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man praying on like a, it's like, a Non-Stop people.
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Stalking each other. These books funny, I don't know
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if it was that exact chapter with about him.
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Him or further down, but it says he knows that she watches him.
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So who's stalking who? What if you're both trying to
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stalk each other? And then your eyes met?
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This is like, what do you do, then?
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What's the stalk etiquette there?
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Do you just take the schedule? Don't forget somewhat time.
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Yeah, like you can stalk me on Tuesdays and Wednesdays and I
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can stalk you on Thursdays and Fridays.
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We'll have a break on the alone. Yeah, fucking we've got a life.
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Not, I need to work on these other days.
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That's when we'll probably if you're Good at bird-watching.
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You've probably got the stalker skills on point if anyone, I
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mean, like I'm so we just assuming anyone that bird
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watches is probably a stalker. Yeah, you like the David
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Attenborough of people stalking. She's 19, she's practically 90
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with that. Stalking experience.
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Mmm, like, who can out stork, who who's going to leave the
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next feather on the fucking stump Chase Andrews in the back?
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Like, mmm. I didn't even know why he's
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involved, just he don't even get it.
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I still don't get it. I just reckon he's illusion.
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He was he just caught up with that whole.
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Whoever steals her cherry business.
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Is that what it was all about Chase?
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His name is Janice, probably he could easily cheat on his
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girlfriend. I reckon with, um, because she
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doesn't go into town, he tried to immediately have sex with her
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at the picnic, dude, the picnic, I don't know what's going on
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with Delia Delia babes. What's going on?
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Up literally, was it just me or was that nipple suckling again,
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obviously love a good nipple, is this, like she has something I'm
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just looking at you. Like I can't answer your
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question. I will, I just felt like it was
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a repeated sort of situation and she's a repeat offender.
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You know what's funny though? The way that chase Andrews
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relationship with Kya sort of developed reminded me exactly
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how her relationship with take developed.
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It was like a carbon copy almost.
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Yes he was more of a dick. Yeah but he treated her nice to
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her face took right up until the end pretty much he was probably
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the perfect boyfriend. Yeah.
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Except for when they have sex because she there it's noted in
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there that she wants a little bit more out of it.
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But she doesn't know how to ask him and it wasn't.
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People. And it was painful, but yet, I
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was like Doyle, you waited so long.
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Imagine. Yeah.
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What a flop. What a flop.
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He literally wait, she finally let him and he was like,
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foreplay out the window even though he's been trying to force
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it on her this entire time. You know what the worst part
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about that was? Yes, they went and got a random
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hotel room, which may have been bujji for her.
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I guess. But it really wasn't also the
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way that he literally just said, it's time.
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He goes, It's Time Kya. As in, it's time for you to give
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it. Shut up, bitch.
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I would immediately that but she's a time for me to leave.
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It's time for me to get back to the marsh blows, like my reading
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heart. Thank you.
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He's literally like my patience has officially run out, the end,
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my patience ran out before. He was even better than what you
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might have sex with this man because, you know, how we really
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annoyed. Well, I was definitely really
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annoyed without all that her if she was in the first part of the
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book and it made it so hard to read.
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He's that in the second part. He's so hard to read because he
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talks like that and she does not he's just really blunt and
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stupid. There's been a bit of a slime
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ball because he was like we're going to have this beautiful
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house. We're gonna get married.
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I can't wait to show you my family and then they have sex
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and then literally never comes up again.
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He was future faking for sure. And then take come in like the
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true king. He does at the end of the book
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and gives her all of that. Yeah.
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Also this part. Of the book goes to show and it
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did come up a couple times just how desperate Kaya was.
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Yeah I get why she's desperate but it was so painful to read
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yeah but she knows no different. I know it's just some bad
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considering her dad was like a piece of shit.
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A mum to she wouldn't know any other way.
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She started on the stating that a lot better once she got into a
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relationship to how did he keep his going for so long?
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Yeah apparently he was out on the marsh all the time, he
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clearly somewhat care but I think more in a possessive way
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But he still having this double life.
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Yeah, on the mainland, basically.
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Yeah, imagine the mom having to admit that chase was hooking up
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with who she constantly called small trash all the time, eh and
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I'll share and out more about what's happening and the
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sheriff's being dumb as shit. That's when the necklace was
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brought up. And yeah when it was described
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as like that sounds fucking disgusting.
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The neckline is a couple of he was wearing it.
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It sounds like it's people go to Hawaii for that one time and
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they come back the shell necklace.
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The really obvious fake. Yeah.
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And they just wear it everywhere.
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Like the little shells and it just doesn't make any not she
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made that for him. So she put thought and effort
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into they should get that real hard from.
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I'm surprised he was wearing it in public because he had a full
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girlfriend at the time that he later got engaged to and he's
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wearing this tacky-ass shall mcleese.
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Maybe he just the thing that I supported her.
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They just like I don't understand how this smart
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athletic boy is wearing a shell necklace and the mom had to
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explain that to the cops. Oh my God.
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At the police officers who were talking and they were looky
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admitting that Kaya's hot that's sent me just and if you think
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any time they talk to, you know what, the only time I actually
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found General Relief and reading this book was when they were
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searching their house. Yes.
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I think it was Joe was like, Did you know that birds did this?
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He kept finding random things and he just like, did you know,
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this happened and it just, it's the only time she came those
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male peacocks, strutted around, competing so much for sex, they
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can't hardly fly. I ain't sure what it all means.
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But it adds up to something, what?
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Every time he'd be like it was something comes look out this
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and he's like, oh, you found evidence and it's just gonna ask
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you and some red. They did find some evidence,
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though. I found the red have Infamous
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red hat which had a fiber on his jacket.
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But anyway, okay, when they were dating Chase Andrews Loki was
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man. Splaining, the marsh to Kya the
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OG Michelle, the guy that grew up in the marshy girl, that is
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the marshy is the marsh man. Her blood is Marsh, man.
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She's this one creepy this mug. She's literally, she was the she
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plugged up her foot with the marsh.
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She was a flooring at that Balenciaga show that just
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happened and weekends and she had a blood pact with the marsh.
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I feel like total is now she had to because remember she put a
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hole in her foot that she somehow survived.
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The girls are her babies. What more do you want?
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And he's around sitting here telling her about the marsh,
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he's never been in a marsh Chase.
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I'm surprised you find her house every day.
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How do you can do it? That boat, is he driving his he
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boating was I think his boat Because you have to, who knew,
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he knew how to drive a boat. He's figuring out, who knows.
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Okay, I'm gonna ask your permission to say something
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almost unforgivable about me, okay?
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Look, I just I'm not a greedy unicorn Ari.
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Warble, his father. I think she must have that good
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mosh Goosey but wait. I'm gonna get a ride.
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What does she do? If she so she must have that
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good Marsh. Gooshie Percy.
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Because of how about these boys? I'm practically planning their
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entire lives. Around, pushy pushy, it's hard
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to say that martial see a gushing Posse.
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See. Gusty pussy.
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Oh my back is cracking up laughing so much gooshie pussy.
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It's because she never washes. She's got a sweet sweet for my
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kids. Backed up for years.
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No, she doesn't smell like any other girl season.
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These boys are going wild for it.
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Wow, woman the trying to Tamar. Like what you said before how
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she got these two boys falling over.
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How does she have perfect hair? Perfect clothes?
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No skincare. No hair care.
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Nothing. No routine.
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Yeah. Living in mud.
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It's the mud. It's the most toxic.
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Yeah, exactly. She's got some Secrets.
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It's because she's what seemed a natural.
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She's got a little natural, but they don't want to tell anyone
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about it, low-key. I mean, tight kind of did hmm.
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But his probably more because she was 15, not because she
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lives in the marsh but he really cared about that because I think
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the dad was more like just don't get a pregnant.
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Don't do knock her up. Hmm I'm surprised she didn't get
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pregnant through the whole Chase Andrews relationship.
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Okay? It does say in the end of the
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book that she couldn't, they never had, she couldn't write
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because her and Tate would trying to have a kid and that
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just never happened. Okay.
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So she Maybe because of like the tetanus, Ted is upbringing lack
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of nutrition, like the fact that she lived on fucking grits.
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Hmm. Her uterus and grits do not obey
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be make. Nope, her body.
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Just probably didn't fully form. That's really sad.
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It is really sad because I really think they would have
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been great parents. Yeah.
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I didn't reflect too much. I'll live after.
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Oh yeah. By the time I got there, I was
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exhausted, but also thinking about it.
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Now that's really kind of low key sir.
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Odd. But probably good thing when it
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comes to chase Andrews. Oh yeah.
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Your last thing you'd want, is Chase Andrews.
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Being your baby daddy? He's gonna be like a Nick Cannon
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and have 10 kids. Not now he's dead.
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Yeah. But he would have been, he would
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have, he would only kid in every port.
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So I'm wondering about this book.
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Not Kya, not take everyone going like, Chase Andrews.
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He was a star of the town, the quarterback.
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He was so smart, but then they'd be like a body fucked everyone,
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but he was such an amazing guy but he slept with everyone's
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Yeah, and hot wife and children, probably, who knows?
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I can't get over that states, something to be there.
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No, he didn't do it. He thought about it.
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Hmm yourself, I'm crossing at straws.
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This is the bottom of the barrel that we scraping with these male
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characters. But anyway, here we all know.
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So I don't know where I got this from, but there was a bit of
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foreplay with Chase was running his finger over her ankle.
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Oh yeah, it started other ankle and then he went up and then it
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went to the moon and then it's so cool.
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That's so that must be a fast transition.
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Do you reckon? He liked under angle to have a
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foot fetish again this time? It's really funny.
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Don't we talked about that. Emily is think it's funny.
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How do you tell an ankle drinking here and get a little
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food whole Stop. Just a little dip in.
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Laughing and um Crying Chris foot fetish mean Delia Jesus
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it's still his fault know she's gonna nibble cycling finish with
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establish. This it's not a lot of things
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too, she's a one-trick pony. There's not all the funny things
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to grab at in the book so you just really gotta go for what?
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Really? Yeah, you really gotta go for
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it. I just felt like Tate Story
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falling in love with. Kya is almost identical to
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chases Story falling in love with Kya.
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Yeah even pretty much on par but one is a terrible person and one
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slightly less terrible. Those are the options in books
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like these look like mmm-hmm because I don't really root for
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tight either because grow a spine, yeah, you little worm.
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She was right in front of you. Just explain like a man that you
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had some nerd trip to go on. He wasn't even that bad.
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Like like don't be like you grew, I think because he had a
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couple of girlfriends, they didn't work out and he was like,
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I always will love only her. I think she musher see, Fuck
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that's hard to say. Try saying that five times,
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which will see Marshall to which we should see much.
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So tape realizing, as you said, after he had those couple of
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girlfriends and body line, they always come crawling back Emily
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aren't they? They always come crawling back
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out of the woodwork doesn't matter if it's three months
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doesn't matter. If 3 is doesn't matter if it's
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three decades. Oh my God, there's like this
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whole theory that men literally They'll fuck up their first
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logged and made love. And then they marry someone they
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don't even love. And just always think about the
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first all know what a flop, and what a flop story arc for them.
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My couldn't be me and be me. I feel like as women, you never
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going to fuck up a good thing I could feel like I didn't prove
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I'll prove you wrong. Hold my beer I got aboard today.
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Look okay that's on you. So anyway he comes he tries to
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come crawling back. Back.
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But she's now in this relationship with Chase.
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Yeah, he finds out about it because he sees them practically
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have their first date or a picnic date.
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Must have seen them out on the boat because they had the picnic
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date on the boat. Imagine giving up because you
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see, someone have a first date. Are you kidding?
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It's not over until it's over Emily.
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You don't like the wrong comes when they're running up the, I'm
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not aware until they're dead. It's not over until I got that
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ring on my finger and then it's still negotiable.
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Still Brew, like, come on, come on, Tate.
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Come on, bring that back door and getting there.
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Getting there, I'm not hating. I said wheel, I mean to try
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because remember he kept showing up to tell her how terrible he
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was, but he wasn't wrong. He was really having dated other
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people. Yeah, I feel like she was in too
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deep. He left it too late.
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Yeah, and also just come in at that friend angle.
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Why don't know? Yeah.
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Then just drop little because he does is he kind of does in the
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end, I guess. Yes, but I feel like you
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shouldn't come full-blown. Like you've got to break up with
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him because he's got 15 other girlfriend.
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It's literally like, when your parents low, like I don't like
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him and you're like, I don't understand what you're saying,
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because you're my parents, right?
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Something I really hated about chases.
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So when he was trying to hyper up for sex, he was like, oh
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don't worry about your clothes, you'll fit right in, you'll be
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fine, they'll take care of you as soon as they have sex and
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she's like I want to go to a party.
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He's like, no. I think you'll be shying your
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clothes really don't fit in. Literally switches on a hub so
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fast with her own insecurities and crying.
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Yeah. And he was all you'll meet my
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family, everyone will accept you because I love you, blah, blah
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blah. Meanwhile his mama's biggest
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bitch in town and people knew that he was going up into the
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marsh. But he never said why you what,
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okay, why did she come down to being the suspicious person when
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he's always in the March? I know that deal would make a
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lot of sense if he's always hanging out in the marsh.
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But he never had to explain himself because he's chased
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Andrews star of the town. He peaked in high school 100%.
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Oh, definitely her relationship with Chase was the equivalent of
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those guys that are married and go on dating apps.
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You know, like Heather out there looking.
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Yes. Even though they're in a full
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relationship, but they still want to have some Secret side
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chick or whatever hundreds. And then he was lying to her the
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whole time and of course the girl he's Mary's is As well as
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pearls. And she her name was Pearl.
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I feel bad for her though, too. Because she was probably telling
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her the same thing. Yeah.
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Because remember she kind of sees him at in town with them
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and he's like oh this is Kaya. She lives in the marsh and then
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they walk off. Mmm and he's like originally had
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his arm around her so to confused awkward and so Tate's,
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realizing how much he sort of fucked up.
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Yeah, and he was kind of looking at her.
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Her like, oh wow, she's really matured and he noticed that
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she's a woman and I'm like, yeah, as opposed to a girl when
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you were trying to overcome with her the first time and you do
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and nipples are fully formed now.
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Yeah. And he was just, I don't know.
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So the cops were finally doing some cop work and actually
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starting to listen to the gossip, which is what I said
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they should have done in the first place.
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What is this turn around? I just don't understand any of
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their like, Detective work. Yes.
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Nothing method. I know saying made no sense they
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took forever, they took forever. They suddenly started listening
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to gossip when it was about her being the culprit.
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Yeah. Nothing else.
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It could have been anything else.
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Exactly. He could have fallen.
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This is when I started realizing that these part of the book
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started really dragging and it turned into a complete murder
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mystery book but really slow moving.
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It literally took all the romance.
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I don't know if it was ever, I never worked.
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If it was ever supposed to be. A romance or just a matter of
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like kind of like a notebook type.
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But there is no it was just really hard on our own all.
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I know I know and the birds hearing about birds grew its
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maybe it was a love story with her in the birds or the her in
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the March. Maybe that was, you know.
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Yeah. We like, oh yeah, imagine
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finding out your will, someone who you think is your boyfriend
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is getting engaged to a whole different bitch from a newspaper
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that you normally couldn't afford and you know what?
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She watches him, go into her house.
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He just walks right in the past one boss.
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Trying to look for her. Yeah and then looks at it and
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then goes to find her and then I don't think she sees him for a
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while. No, she just runs away from him.
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Yeah, bullshit and the only reason why you can read this
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because it's taped taught you to read em was.
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You just see their photos and be like, mmm Club photo?
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I know what it is like and then things started changing for her
23:12
because she just published the book based on Tates advice.
23:15
And then she started renovating our house.
23:18
Of that. She got to a point where she was
23:20
able to buy a proper food, renovator house and live
23:23
comfortably. Her buying her land was so good
23:27
to me. I know. 800 bucks.
23:29
Yeah, but the whole I don't think that, I don't even think
23:33
it was that much. I think it was like 300, it
23:35
ended up being after and she got a toilet, a toilet, and a proper
23:40
bath. And she was looking at replacing
23:43
some things in the kitchen and she thought about her Mar and
23:46
what would happen if Mom comes back.
23:48
His annoyed can come back. Girl, Shane.
23:50
Come back, mama's not coming back.
23:52
Mama died. He's not coming back.
23:55
She did, I found. This is where I was felt really
23:58
sad for her. What's his?
24:01
She's so desperate. I haven't been in issues a crazy
24:06
and all she does is kind of like worried about these
24:09
relationships with these boys. Yeah, it's officially never got
24:12
to build other ones. No one's given her.
24:15
The time of day, the couple of people who have, she I don't
24:18
think she notices, they do besides jump in by the way.
24:22
Jump in is my favorite character by far.
24:24
Mmm. Yeah he is the best.
24:26
He is the best because even Chi is not really, boys are like she
24:32
just has a little lose a bitch, like she's got this survival but
24:36
she doesn't have the, I don't know.
24:39
There's something missing there. No guy.
24:41
Quite literally, think her brain hasn't grown because she hasn't
24:44
had the schooling life experience social Interaction.
24:48
So she's still aren't working out a six-year-old level.
24:51
These, something true I shouldn't be so harsh on her.
24:54
It's fine. She's clearly at really ha ha.
24:59
She's an ally. Don't know she's wheel of an
25:06
alphabet Queen. She's clearly very smart though.
25:10
She retains knowledge really well, she's like a genius author
25:14
out of nowhere. Just pull that out of her ass
25:16
mmm. Which Makes sense because of all
25:19
her documenting about, I don't even think it was her books were
25:22
even March besides like watercolors and I don't think he
25:26
had information in it. I think it did.
25:29
I was, it was like a categorized, all the different
25:31
species of birds and all the different.
25:34
So there was a real ass, she had a grass 12.
25:36
Well, that's why I'm surprised she had enough material for a
25:38
second book. She had like seven that's wild.
25:41
I was just like, whoa. Yeah.
25:43
And so she's getting steady paycheck and she's like, seeing
25:45
a Jumpin. Don't need to yell like Muscles
25:48
and you know what's so cute. He had put her book up in his
25:52
shop and it's just so cute to me.
25:54
Yeah, the entire book to me was just cowards leaving her.
25:58
Hmm, anyways. Yeah, different ways except
26:02
jumping. Yeah.
26:03
Jumping was consistent and Mabel everyone left.
26:06
My left, siblings life, dad left, take left Chase left.
26:11
Yeah, Jody came back though. Yeah, that was weird.
26:15
I don't expect that some reason. Yeah, am I I just want to rip
26:19
into Jody, do I want to rip into the mum because I feel like her
26:22
fucking excuses shit because she could have been life.
26:25
I'm taking the kids to town for the day and they all could have
26:28
left together. He wouldn't have noticed or when
26:30
he was out drinking at the pub. They walked off together.
26:33
Yeah, but I think the whole thing with the Auntie was that
26:36
she had a mental break and didn't even yeah.
26:39
Like she didn't even realize that she left the kids Behind
26:42
until way later because she completely spaced out and he was
26:45
so depressed that she was in a whole but they're nowhere.
26:48
He was like I'd beat them unrecognizable.
26:50
I don't understand why her parents and all of that didn't
26:53
go with her to pick them up. I thought it was just a sister
26:57
because she bite to back to where her dad left, her down,
27:00
still alive. Why didn't her dad go help her?
27:03
Get it? I don't know.
27:04
I don't know if people got involved that much or maybe she
27:09
just was scared that he would do it.
27:11
Yeah, you know, and beat up on chiral.
27:14
She probably thought Jodi was still there to this weird, but I
27:17
mean, I'd be afraid of him too. I guess.
27:19
Yeah Jody comes back. We find out that he went to war.
27:23
Yeah. Well he went into the army, was
27:25
it? Yeah.
27:26
And then he's like and then I regretted leaving you, it's like
27:29
ask why they do come back and look for her for ever until he
27:33
saw her book published. I'm like, hmm, you didn't care,
27:36
you only came back when you saw that.
27:38
She was a alive and be successful somehow, yeah.
27:41
What, what if she immediately died the next day?
27:44
And he was surprised that she didn't go to school.
27:46
He was like, what do you mean, girl?
27:48
Cool. I'm like bitch, what you left me
27:50
with an alcoholic, abusive, father.
27:52
And he was barely even a, how she going to get to school every
27:55
day. Mmm, and she goes her.
27:56
Yeah, I went to school one day, but they believe me relentlessly
28:00
and I never, and he was the one that told her to hide in the
28:02
marsh of people came looking for her.
28:03
I knew it was like, brought our dumb dumb and then, so she
28:07
started telling him the whole story and then Gerry Dee came in
28:11
hot with the Not all men speech. I was like, and he was all give
28:17
Tater chip. Chance.
28:18
He's matured, he was only a kid. He was only 19 at the time.
28:23
You shouldn't just give him a chance, just because he still
28:25
likes you. What about what you want?
28:28
Hmm? Jason didn't ask what even if
28:31
she isn't. She like 19 at this time, so
28:34
that means he would being like 22.
28:36
That's not much difference. My God, exactly.
28:40
He's like, he's grown, he's matured, AKA he's all his other
28:43
options, flopped. Do you think if he got its
28:45
gently take got into a relationship with?
28:48
Uni girl or whatever. Yeah he obviously got rejected
28:51
and he's a bit of a loser so he had to come crawling back into
28:54
the marsh. Do you think if he got a good
28:57
girlfriend at University that actually was on, you know, I'm
29:02
Tractive and everything. Yeah.
29:03
Do you think he's come crawling back into the marsh?
29:06
No, come on now. Come on.
29:08
He tried to reach for the stars and he flopped persistence
29:12
doesn't just equal the gushy pussy.
29:15
I'm me. Yeah so chic Could some rested
29:20
like hunting down the marsh. Hmm.
29:24
Do they even have enough evidence to technically
29:26
resident? Nothing to had speculation and
29:28
gossip, they had red fibers. That's it.
29:32
That was clearly ruled out back in the day.
29:34
Could they have even tested the DNA on anything?
29:39
I don't think so, because, you know how you watch True Crime
29:41
and they go back so far and they're like, oh, we didn't have
29:43
a proper DNA thing, so it was the 70s.
29:47
Yeah, Early seven. I mean and the sheriff was a
29:50
fucking idiot anyway, because they're like, did you check if
29:53
the water could have washed up? Or if there was other Footprints
29:57
and he's like, no, I actually do we even check the column soon
30:01
no. But the funny thing is, well,
30:03
not funny. So she's jailed for practically
30:05
two months? Yes.
30:07
She's pending. Yeah, death penalty.
30:09
If she's found guilty. Yeah, practically no evidence.
30:13
No evidence. Hawaii was the vibe, though.
30:15
He came in hot. I wonder if he ever Ever thought
30:18
it was her. I would assume that all defense
30:21
lawyers would prepare themselves for ya if the client is lying to
30:26
you and if they actually are guilty, he came out of
30:28
retirement for her to what a queen queen and they just
30:33
gas-lit the whole town and made everyone feel bad for everything
30:37
she could be about it. But anyway, would you oppose the
30:41
death penalty, if you were on the jury, or would you just like
30:45
to stay on the jury for the tea? Because you don't have that,
30:49
you're excused, if they were morally against the death
30:52
penalty, I don't know, body. Therefore the T, I'd be there
30:55
for the team. I'd be like, I don't like the
30:57
idea. I'd probably feel really bad if
30:58
she did. Get the death penalty though,
31:01
but doesn't that make almost everyone in town bias?
31:03
Yeah. Shouldn't they get out of towns
31:05
to do this? Because they'll buy it.
31:07
Well, they did ask to move towns and they're like, no.
31:10
She doesn't face any up more buyers than any other person and
31:14
they're like, yeah, she does. She's been called swamp trash.
31:18
Like the whole time by the mother of the star of the
31:21
fucking Champ, exactly what by the mother of the victim.
31:27
I love that. They would just like, nah, it's
31:30
all good. So she clearly kills him, right?
31:33
Huh, but we never talked about why she clearly has killed him
31:39
because we just skimmed right past it.
31:42
But essentially, he tries to sa her.
31:45
Well yeah, so when they flipping back and forth and we're finding
31:49
out a bit more about what happened?
31:51
Yeah, laughter the whole cheating thing came up.
31:54
Yeah. So he returned one day just
31:56
expecting to carry on their relationship and she confronted
31:59
him. It's like absolutely not want to
32:02
be with you anymore. You were with that other girl
32:04
and you lied to me for everybody blah.
32:06
He's like not so good. Let's just keep this as it is.
32:10
Let's just keep the relationship.
32:11
Yeah, because it benefits, you idiot.
32:13
Yeah. And so he attacks her.
32:15
And then yeah. So he goes to pretty much rape
32:17
her. Yeah.
32:19
What a loser, what the fuck. And then she kicks him off and
32:23
gets away. Luckily for her and that's when
32:27
the scrimp guys see the fisherman?
32:30
See her boating away. So it happens in the first part
32:33
of her court case and they're just like, oh we seen her
32:37
running away screaming. I had him like kicking him,
32:39
trying to pull her close up and everything and then they she
32:43
goes out and she was yelling. I'll kill Yeah, I'm something
32:45
that's the only thing. The court got out of it.
32:48
Was that not the rest, and I just didn't understand they were
32:51
like, oh, we heard the fact that she was a salted?
32:54
But yeah, they're like, it's fine.
32:57
Ladies run around with their pants down there and calls at
32:59
all times. Yeah, normal.
33:01
Yeah. Trying to get a man up them
33:02
yelling. It's totally normies for a man
33:05
to be just pulling your drawers down.
33:06
Yeah, no biggie. And why just all the witnesses.
33:10
Guess they were all guessing. It was her.
33:14
It was Very funny. They were just like, yeah.
33:16
And then anytime anyone else they like, well, there are no
33:19
girls with that figure, in the middle of the Civil War, like
33:23
I'm gonna pee. You're supposed to know.
33:26
Absolutely everyone. But yes, in the marsh ever.
33:28
And then so I was like, yeah, I know, I vote.
33:31
And then her voice goes up and he's like, what type of bird is
33:33
that? And it's like, it's very common
33:34
boat, everyone has. And then he goes, oh well, did
33:38
you have lights or not the time? He's like, no.
33:40
He's like wool, was the moon bride?
33:43
No, no, it was just a waning moon.
33:44
You like barely any no visibility will how far away.
33:47
Were you like a million kilometers away?
33:48
No big deal just and he's on the other side of the country, you
33:51
definitely saw that. It was her.
33:53
I guess not ask the bus drivers and their be like you definitely
33:58
seen her in a disguise and they're like I guess she could
34:00
have been in disguise. How is the best part of the
34:04
disguise being? I never even saw that.
34:08
It was her in Disguise either. They were like younger.
34:11
There was a lanky bloke on the past.
34:12
I mean, I wasn't surprised that it was her, that did it, but I
34:15
was surprised by the disguises. The second disguise was her, as
34:20
an old lady, what old lady is, catching the bus at 2:50 a.m.
34:27
she just finished her knitting. Where did she get the weave from
34:31
lady? We But okay, at the time when
34:34
they were introducing this evidence, obviously because it
34:36
wasn't revealed that it was her. It's like why are they
34:40
pinpointing some little old lady and some lanky guy?
34:43
That sounds like complete opposites of the spectrum as
34:45
definitely being her. Yeah, whoo.
34:47
And then the lady at the Piggly. Wiggly saw, Kaya hop on and hop
34:51
off the exact days that she said she was out of town.
34:54
Oh yeah. I just and it's funny because
34:56
all of her Witnesses are social. They seen her and the lady of
35:00
the Piggly. Wiggly, there was a bit where it
35:02
says Said that she used to take money out of her own purse to
35:05
pay extra money. Yep, for Kaya to get things and
35:09
it's just so cute. So they have her.
35:11
They had the truant officer that was really happy that she was
35:14
doing. Okay, for consider.
35:15
It was just weird. It was like, these random little
35:17
people. That's what I mean and they all
35:20
Loki felt guilty I suppose. Yeah, yeah.
35:25
I mean, at the end of the trial takes dad showing up to.
35:28
He was like, I can't believe. I just didn't show up when I
35:31
should be there. For my son, he's in love with
35:34
her. You know what that also never
35:39
fails to explain each meal even when she was in jail, I was
35:42
like, ladies stop. I don't need to know what kind
35:44
of role she's even yeah. Why she eaten better in prison
35:47
than she was when she was six actually true.
35:50
And but also, why did she need to tell us that the two local
35:53
restaurants were taking turns to serve the jury food?
35:57
Why do I need to know that? Why are you screaming?
36:04
We thought because that's probably a part I skimmed
36:06
because I was like, I'm over this just really explained how
36:09
the launch worked Emily. Just in case.
36:10
I just in case I do to be there, why am I giving this video?
36:14
It's like they're getting the ready to Beyond Rodriguez is so
36:16
tasty work. Like we're you did you taste and
36:21
smell? So when and I know we're
36:23
flipping all over the place it's because of how those stories
36:25
laid out. So when Kai is being attacked by
36:28
Chase and she's getting away, she kicks him right in the
36:31
kidneys because she knows just just where they are.
36:33
Little my mom, get those little kidney beans.
36:36
Her little Biology book, she's been reading on a daily or makes
36:40
sense. I just love how she didn't go to
36:43
school and somehow she's smarter than half the town.
36:46
She got them. Good survival, instincts.
36:48
The yeah. Would you negotiate?
36:50
The plea deal if you were her? Nah, she I think she knew she
36:53
wasn't going to get away with it.
36:55
She really seemed to not care during though.
36:58
Yeah, she didn't give a fuck. She the guide.
37:00
The lawyer was like, can you please look at the Yuri and be a
37:03
bit more. Yeah.
37:05
So that they have a bit of small sympathy and she's just like
37:07
staring at the wall looking like a crazy person.
37:10
There was literally no evidence. I don't know why she was
37:12
arrested in the first place. Just like here, say they tried
37:15
to bring up the fact that she wanted to stay in a hotel near
37:18
the bus station and which she clearly did for a reason, you
37:23
know, but even Tom heavily. Oh, pointed out he's like she's
37:27
never been around people. So why would she want to go into
37:30
the middle of downtown? Also, why do they A cat that
37:33
just hangs around the courtroom, I know Sunday, Justice Sunday
37:38
probably it's like a therapy pet, everyone involved.
37:42
It was the only thing she interacted with in the whole
37:44
court case. Yeah, she wasn't interacting
37:46
with the jury. I shouldn't support bird in
37:48
there with her like an emotional support bad.
37:52
You know what's funny, though? Kaya had so much Shame about
37:56
Jodi may be learning about the murder trial in general fact
37:58
that she might be on trial for Murder.
38:00
She fucking did it. Why does she care so much?
38:02
If humans, if you tell them what, you got dirty, then don't
38:07
do it in the first place, babes. But anyway, but she was just
38:10
like so worried about him bitch. She abandoned you, he he he
38:16
abandoned you for nothing, it might why didn't you tell your
38:19
brother you will living scared? That's not only reason she tells
38:22
him because she's living in fear and she wasn't able to sleep in
38:25
her newly Furbish out. Yeah.
38:27
She's like I'm not going to let this guy.
38:29
Take this away from me. You know what?
38:31
I understand that we know. Oh, how she murdered him, right?
38:34
Hmm. I we know all the things but I
38:35
want to know how she lured him there.
38:38
What how she got up there? How she got rid of the
38:40
fingerprints? They would have been all really
38:42
exciting things to piece together in the end.
38:45
That's true instead of a random poem but here we are true.
38:49
It had a dramatic effect. Let's be real.
38:51
Yeah, if that was me I'd be complaining about being innocent
38:55
within five seconds to every single family member of a hub.
38:57
Chicago. 32. No, I mean it's good but then he
39:05
does find out obviously. And he rocks up in town.
39:08
Yes, it's support her. Yeah, which is he probably
39:11
thinks she's innocent. Yeah.
39:13
Why don't, why does it matter anyway?
39:15
He isn't being that as Austin. Yeah, I love how everyone's
39:21
grasping at straws saying but she's practically everyone on
39:23
the bus, including the bus driver, right?
39:26
Like everyone is being she's the bus driver, she's the ticket
39:32
maker. Our, she's the engines, the
39:34
mechanic, she's the boss. So anyway, we're led to believe
39:38
that fucking everybody and the boss is her, right.
39:41
But then with that same kind of logic.
39:44
It was definitely her in the boat in the pitch-black miles
39:48
away. How does that make sense?
39:50
How does that please? Everyone on the bus that makes
39:52
sense, right, but that's definitely her in a boat a
39:57
million miles away. I know in the dark she's very
40:01
smart because I do Even know it how they she was probably
40:04
confused. She's probably staring at the
40:06
wall. Confused about how they
40:07
backtracked it to her on nothing.
40:10
He's like I did everything else. Maybe she thought it was that
40:14
crazy that she would get away with it.
40:16
No one's going to pinpoint a skin email and then a small
40:19
little grammar as opposed to being me.
40:21
How does she do that? I like they would have been
40:23
interesting bits to have like her a little clip in the back of
40:26
her getting him up there. Getting ready as an old lady if
40:30
she's immediately across the road from my hotel room.
40:32
She have to change before she walked over to her hotel room.
40:36
Yeah, I know these are great things but I guess that's for us
40:40
to figure out. I don't have the mental capacity
40:43
to figure it out. I want to be called.
40:46
We were told everything else. I was like, whatever is eating
40:49
every 54 million. If you took away, all the food,
40:51
she didn't have food to begin with.
40:53
So I don't even know why I fucking at it and you gave me
40:56
her getting dressed like a little old lady.
41:00
Allah Almighty. About everyone at the Piggly.
41:03
Wiggly gossiping seeing her hop on and off the bus.
41:06
Why is that gossip worthy called other people.
41:09
She's like, oh, look at that kayak club called me monkey
41:12
bumps. Okay, get a life lady alive.
41:15
She's a published author. Whoa, she's an orphan.
41:19
She's meeting with the publisher in the big city in the big city
41:23
eat it. She probably earns more than all
41:25
of you little selfish bastard. Exactly.
41:28
So it's interesting that she thought that with Supergirl
41:30
sobriety but it only just strengthened her case.
41:33
I'm pretty sure she was also the one that was giving her money,
41:36
so maybe she was just slightly excited.
41:38
Like, oh my God, she's getting on a bus because she doesn't
41:40
come into town anymore because the guy she's about to murder is
41:45
getting married. Exactly.
41:46
Well, I mean, she never sees her do anything and the motel owner
41:52
thought she was funny because she had a cardboard suitcase,
41:54
and she brought her in lunch sort of thing.
41:56
He was like, it will. Look at this pumpkin pumpkin.
41:59
It also adds to it. So they found the red fibers.
42:02
His body, and they debunk that packed being any time, but she
42:07
forbore hat on the bus. So, she went and got another pad
42:11
to wear on the bus. He wouldn't, you you like get
42:14
rid of the red hat, even though take gave it to you.
42:16
And then put the blue hat on and maybe not because you wouldn't
42:19
want to be seen. Getting maybe she wanted to get
42:23
caught. I'm assuming the red fiber was
42:25
just an accident. Yeah.
42:27
So did she change hat? She was that she just got a wig.
42:31
She's gonna have to shoot She apparently has black long hair
42:34
down to her ass hole. What does it like curl into her
42:40
house? Probably Okay.
42:45
So this part of the book really was the plateau e boring bit and
42:49
I was like, come on I want to know friends and then we're like
42:52
the conclusion is very steep downhill yet.
42:54
Anyway, I don't know why we called it a water tower last
42:57
time because it's actually fired.
42:59
Well, because a fire tower and why is it on the marsh?
43:01
My eyes up high to be a water tower.
43:03
Why is a fire tower on water? No idea.
43:06
What is a fight? Our, that's what it is.
43:08
Why wouldn't it be a water tower?
43:10
Well, a light Tower, it's a water tower to Arson.
43:13
That's what knows. There's a lot of the dumbass
43:16
share of writing his own letter saying someone would be
43:19
dangerous and died. She didn't even plan that bit.
43:22
It just came in. How did she get rid of all her
43:25
fingerprints? She may be grinded them off
43:27
before the end. She's feathers decline gloves,
43:34
Maybe. It's all that.
43:36
Which all her old lady gloves. Yeah.
43:38
Pretty multi-purpose. And also look like gloves.
43:46
She have the time because even when they were in her court case
43:49
L like she would have needed at least an hour and a half.
43:52
They didn't include her. Getting changed into her
43:54
disguise. She was however and through.
43:57
She had like, 50 minutes, she had the mount mrs.
44:00
Doubtfire routine, on lock what? You know, how he changes.
44:05
Mrs. Top ties and tie off if she fucks like she literally had 50
44:09
minutes to get off a bus. Get to the Tower, she be Runner.
44:14
What if he was in there? Murder him.
44:16
I know it was a lot. She was busy that day.
44:19
She didn't busy when I was still thinking she was innocent,
44:22
right? I thought this all of the
44:25
theories that the police were coming up with would ludicrous.
44:28
I was like, why would she be rushing to hold on the town?
44:31
There's accounted for 20 minutes that she could have had, I
44:34
reckon she would have got away with it more.
44:36
If she went to the town twice or a couple of towns beforehand,
44:39
like she bite this month and then she went the next month and
44:42
then she went in a month after not the art, she's only time she
44:46
leaves. Yes, the town is when she met us
44:48
someone yeah, that was us. Yeah.
44:51
That was us like if Shiva if she planned ahead but she didn't
44:54
plan ahead ahead. She should have.
44:56
Yeah, this is now True Crime podcast.
44:59
This is. Yeah exactly.
45:00
This is now a murder book podcast we're into the court
45:04
case. Now, what?
45:05
Else was evidence. There was the red hat.
45:07
There was what potentially being in Disguise her potentially
45:12
running away and saying, I'm going to kill you which was a
45:14
different day, the guy at the motel Olivia to get pizza and go
45:18
to the toilet and then I'll call her.
45:22
Yeah, check in and check out all the days that you were supposed
45:25
to. And then she had her editor that
45:27
dropped her off at 10:00. So she had to get on the bus at
45:30
11:50. Yep.
45:32
And then, the editor picked her up at 7:30.
45:35
In the morning, they had no evidence.
45:38
I don't owe the shell necklace. Missing wasn't the evidence.
45:42
Yeah. But they didn't find it at her
45:43
house now. So where is that evidence?
45:47
I don't know why. She just didn't burn all the
45:49
shit like everything if she honestly cared.
45:53
I think she was just happy that he did it.
45:55
Yeah. She didn't seem to care if she
45:57
wasn't really emotionally checked, in during the process,
46:01
she wasn't sitting there going. Oh, no, what happens if I get
46:06
The death penalty, she was Lakshmi.
46:09
I'm just tired. Only care about this cat.
46:11
My goals and my goals go feed my goals.
46:13
Tape, that did happen. Exactly.
46:16
And he was wrapped around her finger already by that.
46:18
Know practically together. No, practically, married,
46:21
practically, married, jump and dying was just the stupidest
46:25
plot point. No offense.
46:27
Yeah, it was just to make us feel sad again, or something,
46:30
and then tights, dad dying as well around the same time.
46:35
Oh, I Totally skimmed that. Yeah, his dad died, the police
46:40
rushed out on the marsh. It was when they won't forget.
46:43
They weren't talking yet. Again, I was like one eye, I
46:46
does. He need a dog.
46:48
Are you trying to sit tight up to be online?
46:51
What are you doing? Maybe it was just really like
46:54
because Mabel was like jumping thought of you as you know his
46:58
daughter and you and then she was like and he was like my path
47:01
and I was like, okay, okay chill we get a bit you can't not.
47:05
Develop that relationship too much and then make us feel sad
47:09
about it later. I didn't even feel sad.
47:11
That's why it wasn't developed properly.
47:14
Yeah, to throw in the end to make us feel like, you know,
47:17
relationship in this entire book was developed enough for me to
47:20
feel any way about it. Mmm, even her and Tate's by the
47:24
end, you my did not care but I didn't get it when they did the
47:27
jump forward. I was like, you know, even when
47:31
I was like, any didn't even give any substance in that for me to
47:34
be happy about. About it.
47:36
Well, it was a relationship that was proximity and then his lack
47:41
of other options. Yeah, but you know how when they
47:46
kiss and she was like, are we are we dating now whatever?
47:50
In my you go for? Now he asks her to marry her and
47:53
she goes, we are married like geese.
47:56
I would never marry her. Are you kidding Emily?
47:59
Why don't you just marry someone like a goose married?
48:03
Like he's what does that mean? Goose theme Wedding.
48:07
It means huh? Like the white chick dress, I
48:12
don't know what that means. Do to help me.
48:14
Do a geese, famous for getting married or do they just pair up
48:18
and maybe, maybe they like penguins are monogamous or
48:21
whatever. Ship doesn't know what a penguin
48:23
is it sounding like she doesn't want to have a wedding at
48:28
sounding why? She doesn't really give a fuck
48:30
exactly like that. It's that easy.
48:32
He's probably like, wow, I saved so much coin by marrying.
48:35
The man. This girl she a queen then him
48:40
out this point to maybe, because remember they built her, our lab
48:44
and a whole wraparound porch. And was he doing again?
48:48
Oh well. He was working was something
48:49
that you had a research center for wondered babies.
48:53
We get to the point. So Jonathan died.
48:55
And it was really sad. Yeah.
48:57
Then we get to the verdict. Yeah, I thought you was going to
49:01
be found guilty. I don't know why, I thought I
49:04
was going to be opposite. She's Found guilty, but she was
49:06
innocent but it was the opposite.
49:09
She wasn't found guilty and she was like, I think that was the
49:16
twist for me. I was like I knew she ain't
49:18
literally when I started reading hours I got its 100% her, there
49:22
is no doubt think I just did. Yeah.
49:25
In my mind, I think she tried to play it off, but I think she
49:27
could have played it off better. I think they could have written
49:31
it better. I think that just goes to show
49:34
that for me. Being almost raped, wasn't
49:37
enough to need to murder someone that's kind of concerning.
49:41
Okay, that's enough. Murder someone and ruined
49:45
potentially ruin your own life. I didn't see the urgency yeah
49:49
treachery. But it was more because she
49:51
didn't feel safe. Yeah, she thought he was going
49:53
to come back and finish the job so it was either him or her?
49:56
Yeah. So that I get, but they didn't
49:58
allude to that. Yes, I'm yeah.
50:01
So I think that's why I didn't take it seriously as a potential
50:03
option and also I was on cruise control.
50:05
By this point, I was just tell me what happens.
50:08
Tell me what happened? Just tell that.
50:09
I mean, like, I wonder if they were doing the case stuff and
50:13
they're flipping. I knew it was her, I knew
50:15
somehow she did it but when they'll flip-flopping between
50:17
like the boss in the house of the fuck's sake, I'm sorry kid.
50:21
I put what they had to do back in the day.
50:23
Yeah, eyewitness accounts only and I just, it was so boring.
50:28
Oh, tell me about it. I was like, can we wrap this up?
50:31
And then we get to the end of the book.
50:33
It's still boring. They grew up, they grew
50:36
together, they got old, they had a research lab and then she had
50:40
a heart attack, pretty much on a boat at 64 and then he was just
50:43
sad. And then he found a box with the
50:45
shell on it with the evidence of looked at with the evidence.
50:48
And then he burned all the evidence and he found out that
50:50
she was actually the local poet. Yeah.
50:53
And he found a poem specific to her killing him.
50:57
She's a poet killer. Yeah and she said it was easy to
51:01
lure him up there. I guess she did say that
51:04
somewhere in the Because she's pushy so I don't know.
51:08
It's transformed because she's pushy, pushy, so yeah, she just
51:12
lured him on up there and pushed him.
51:15
Badda-bing, badda-boom order. Chase babes, are you losing your
51:20
balance? Oh, no.
51:22
Oh no, that's an actual like trapdoor.
51:26
That's not very stable on this very non stable, Firepower, that
51:31
they should just knock down, but we totally, I'll make.
51:34
Out with you up here because my children who knows how exactly
51:39
she planned that out. But it had to be that day at
51:41
that time because she had her Alibi all lined up so she's done
51:44
really well. I mean she liked.
51:46
Yeah she did really well hiding it because if she was like yeah
51:50
I've decided that this is the time and that's it.
51:53
That is kind of badass and I don't think she would have read
51:55
it down anywhere just in her admission.
52:00
When did she buy the clothes and stuff?
52:03
Well, I guess she was making money at that point.
52:05
Yeah but when someone noticed you buying old lady clothes only
52:08
did it gradually I guess I don't know.
52:10
That was a lot that we need to figure out.
52:12
Yeah, so the ending you expected it.
52:15
I didn't expect it but I was on board I was like I'll take it
52:18
whatever. Hmm.
52:20
Yeah I don't mind, she didn't give any more characters for it
52:25
to be. That's well, that's what I mean.
52:27
You normally get a red herring in there somewhere that you're
52:29
kind of like, aw tape found out about the sexual assault.
52:32
And now he's chasing after Chase like It would be a reason.
52:36
Yeah. But there was no alternative
52:37
jump and found out but it's like jumping was always in the same
52:40
spot, he never. And she did tell him.
52:43
Yeah, but that wasn't enough in the book for us to suspect him.
52:46
Allen Tate really it's a relationship was really Bland at
52:50
the time to. Yeah.
52:51
It wasn't. There's a super room.
52:53
Yeah. There was only two options there
52:55
could have been and there was no way.
52:57
I thought they would have been an option job of the crazy, a
53:00
smart girl that fucking stabbed her and foot and then hid from,
53:04
yeah. Her 100% it's caught and she
53:07
just adopted the martial law. You know how anything goes in
53:10
the March. She was like well you're in my
53:13
fucking territory now bitch. I mean she did pay for the
53:15
March. I don't know if she paid for
53:16
that land but you know yeah that's cheeks her land.
53:20
Well it's kind of like fuck around and find out that's kind
53:23
of what it was like. Like it's my fault to try me.
53:27
She's track and this is her swap.
53:29
Its hands, do not fuck with Shrek swallow.
53:32
Not Hello. It all comes back to Shrek.
53:35
Shrek is love, Shrek is life. Shrek is the answer to this
53:38
track is matter. Just make very much sense.
53:43
If anyone asks you what where the crawdads thing is about to
53:45
say, it's like Shrek 2, Shrek. Did you know crawdads fish?
53:50
I don't, I know, I thought they were the goals.
53:54
I thought they were bad. Exactly.
53:56
It makes more sense. I've learnt so many things about
53:58
birds that I do not care about. I love how it was confirmed.
54:02
That it was her through the letter.
54:05
Tate is a real one because you just burnt all that.
54:07
He's like hmm, I'm just going to let her Legacy be that everyone
54:10
feels guilty for treating her like shit.
54:11
I think he she definitely deserved it because he was at
54:14
the trial and I'm like he heard the sexual assault in my revered
54:18
and he was heard, ah, yeah. Number one fan.
54:21
So I feel like that's it. But he even was like, all the
54:24
shell can just go back. He burnt the room or hide?
54:27
Yeah, bad the box of letters. We Stand.
54:30
We are supportive King, he problems.
54:32
I came with that he was from the like, I don't know.
54:35
First, imagine if you found that and she wasn't dead.
54:38
You're like, whoa. I'm never gonna cheat on her or
54:41
do anything bad. I'm surprised.
54:44
She didn't better. Well, she wanted that and I
54:47
guess written down or maybe she wanted someone to find it in the
54:50
end. Yeah.
54:51
Because you can't get child for it twice.
54:53
Exactly. So she's fine.
54:56
I love how it because when it was confirmed, I realized that
54:58
she was technically in drag on multiple uses of like we stand a
55:01
gender-bending murders, Queen Yes, confuse the Straits,
55:07
they're not going to, they don't know.
55:09
Shit, do you gender-bending? They didn't.
55:11
I don't gonna point that out. Then I'm gonna see that.
55:14
As a thing I was confused about the timeline of when the sexual
55:18
assault attempt happened and then when she actually murdered
55:21
him, how much time is in between kills a month.
55:23
Wow. So she got to planning real
55:25
quick, she got to planning. It was like he did it and she
55:28
immediately started planning because it was a bit where she
55:31
was sitting on the sand. I think, knew her reading heart,
55:34
because she was too. Too scared to go to her house
55:36
and she was like, I don't want to live in fear, right?
55:39
And we know she's not leaving the marsh.
55:42
No, she's that's her whole livelihood.
55:45
Yeah, that area to, that's it. That's it.
55:47
Her life is Marsh, that's all that matters and he was
55:49
threatening that life. You would think that at some
55:52
point, you would hope that he would just fuck off.
55:54
Hmm. But she's like, I'm not gonna
55:57
even let him fuck off. No.
55:58
You know. Fuck off rifle.
56:01
I mean if he was going to do that, once he 100% would have
56:05
done that multiple occasions. Yeah, to probably other people
56:08
too. So she did everyone a favor.
56:10
Yeah. So everyone should technically
56:12
of panic and fuck off and I mean he was 23, he was so young and
56:18
if that's how he's already acting, it's just yeah, not a
56:21
good news so entitled. Hmm.
56:24
Are you going to watch the movie?
56:25
Yeah, I reckon the movie would be.
56:27
All right, the movie the trailer.
56:28
At least look pretty aesthetic and it has a regional song by
56:31
Taylor Swift in it. Yeah.
56:32
Has a really good vibe about it. It's kind of sad that they
56:36
didn't have kids but they were such an oatmeal.
56:38
Couple. What is going on?
56:40
Where's the spice? Where's the passion?
56:42
There was nothing. I can't imagine them having sex
56:44
going well, either because she never had a sex scene or a.
56:49
Yeah, they thought they could have gave us one.
56:53
I don't, I don't think it's entirely about the sex.
56:55
Carol. It's honestly, it isn't part of
56:58
her having a good. I know you're give us a glimmer
57:01
of good loving experience. What instead of her weird robot
57:05
responses? Yeah, him.
57:07
Because even with Tate, it wasn't.
57:09
Yes or Keys. It was always like Roberto any
57:12
time they had a conversation. It was some weird thing about
57:15
birds and I guess it's cute. How tape taught her how to read
57:19
and then she became an author. Yeah.
57:21
So it's kind of that connection there Yeah.
57:26
And she got to live on her own terms in the marsh.
57:28
Like she wanted to just be a marsh bitch forever.
57:31
Yeah, much bitch. I mean why I suppose if you're
57:34
living with birds you don't have to really pay bills and uh we're
57:38
doing it wrong Emily. We should be packing up and
57:40
moving into a March. Hello will say we can just buy a
57:44
whole March for 800 bucks and a wasteland.
57:47
Yes. I lost one day.
57:50
One day I get so bored. I'll be like it was, it always
57:53
mosquito Sam whammy Ben wants look like Glad we're finished
58:01
with this book. It was an experience.
58:03
It was an experience, our it took me out.
58:06
Yeah, it took me right into that.
58:08
Stinky ass massage and then into that boring stale courtroom and
58:14
it's very tasteful menu. She has.
58:19
Yeah, it really took us places that we never thought we'd ever
58:23
go so it really took me to 1964. Yeah.
58:26
So I'm going to give it points for being immersive.
58:30
Going to take away points for being bored and it dragged.
58:35
It didn't have to drag that much.
58:36
It did not have to drag that much.
58:37
Yeah. Get it like short enough that
58:39
everyone was so fucking stupid. It's the characters.
58:44
It's a chess. Once everyone's so stupid, the
58:47
tape and Kya relationship had to be bit more spicy for me.
58:51
Come on, give us something. There was no chemistry, that's
58:53
what I mean. Pay attention, it's spicy.
58:55
There was two robots. They were too nerdy, one of us.
58:59
Yeah. I just think he couldn't get
59:01
with another girl. They probably don't want to hear
59:03
about fucking Birds. Yeah.
59:05
And he's like, oh shit, Kyle lovebird talk.
59:08
She loved him and then he came rushing back.
59:10
Only to realize Chase Andrews has come in and sweep her up his
59:13
girlfriend. Number 885.
59:15
Yeah, I'm surprised she didn't get going Media or something.
59:19
Hey, she wouldn't have known if she did have it, I guess.
59:22
Don't you could be nothing. It was Chase all along.
59:32
Okay, here's what I think. We should write it out of here.
59:36
Okay. So let's write it out.
59:37
Of how many circling nipples out of 5.
59:41
Do you hate when you looking at me like what?
59:47
Thank God. We didn't figure two full
59:50
circles and one full circle once.
59:55
So it is it one or two? No, one and a half.
1:00:00
Okay. It's not bad.
1:00:01
It's just not great either. Hmm.
1:00:03
So your I was going to go with two circling nipples out of
1:00:07
five. Yeah, for the exact reasons that
1:00:10
I mentioned before, the only reason why I'm giving it two out
1:00:12
of five is because it was immersive.
1:00:14
Took me out of my own shitty life chokes.
1:00:18
It's not that bad it made me appreciate the fact that I don't
1:00:22
have to eat grits. Exactly.
1:00:24
No. Yeah I yeah I'm not giving I
1:00:27
could have just been done better.
1:00:30
Honestly, I'm just too immature for anything serious.
1:00:34
You think it was too serious? Yeah, I think it was too
1:00:36
serious. Okay, besides the shit like,
1:00:39
hmm? We have married, like, geese.
1:00:41
When I picked this book, I didn't know.
1:00:43
It was murder mystery. Right now, does everything have
1:00:46
to have a definite? A murder mystery.
1:00:49
That doesn't automatically make a story good.
1:00:51
Yeah, he didn't. He didn't have to die.
1:00:53
I mean, there was no murder mystery.
1:00:55
There was no mystery to murder. That's on me.
1:00:57
It was just the murder and then the lack of evidence.
1:00:59
So I mean it was just kind of going up and then a better and
1:01:05
then them explaining how she did the murder.
1:01:08
Yeah it's pretty run-of-the-mill matter.
1:01:10
You know, I feel like the time because you ain't back and forth
1:01:13
it all happened within like two months.
1:01:15
I know. Wow.
1:01:17
So we'll hold Cycles to whole circles and not a circle or not
1:01:21
even a semi one tackle. One nipple each.
1:01:24
So yours is a one-and-a-half nipple rotations.
1:01:27
Yeah. Okay.
1:01:28
Like not a full. Wow.
1:01:30
So next pick next book pick is going to be your book pick.
1:01:33
Yeah, I have no options. Okay.
1:01:35
So let's do something. Not struggle porn.
1:01:38
Just as a suggestion. Please do we want something,
1:01:41
fruity? Something online?
1:01:43
Yeah, light and fruity smutty. Maybe because this had no smart,
1:01:47
like there wasn't enough for us to get all powers a whole smart.
1:01:50
Yes, I am. I'm a whore for talking about it
1:01:54
because it's the funniest things to talk about.
1:01:55
I feel like I'm just going to slowly go do and books.
1:01:59
We that you're going to be like oh what is this about?
1:02:02
And then I'm going to be like laughs, I'm fine with that,
1:02:05
that's fine. So yeah, your pick my freedom to
1:02:08
pick whatever you like and today I've only got 199 Tick-Tock
1:02:13
saved on book so that's fine. So that's it for this episode
1:02:20
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