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Sustainability Around the Home with Rock Realty · Ask The Experts

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Speaker 1: Eight thirty six thirteen ten Wui b A and ask
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Speaker 1: the Experts. Brought to you this morning by Rock Realty
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Speaker 1: and Studio This Morning with Matt Hyman of Rock Realty.
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Speaker 1: You can learn more online their website Rock Wisconsin dot com.
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Speaker 1: That's r O c K Wisconsin dot com. Uh telephone
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Speaker 1: number six oh eight six three seven or six yes,
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Speaker 1: six seven three. I'm like, boy, I didn't feel right.
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Speaker 1: Six seven three fifty four hundred. That's six seven three
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Speaker 1: fifty four hundred. Matt. How you doing this morning?
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Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good for rainy morning.
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Speaker 1: It's I haven't been out there since before the sun
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Speaker 1: came up a little drizzle and that's kind of little Jerry.
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Speaker 1: You avoid the avoid the hail and stuff that came through,
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Speaker 1: I believe.
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Speaker 2: So I got to get the car wash to make sure.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, take a take a peek there. Wow, what a
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Speaker 1: what an event that was. And uh, we've got a
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Speaker 1: lot of ground to cover, of course, today is Earth Day.
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Speaker 1: We are going to talk about some energy efficient tips
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Speaker 1: when it comes to your home. We're also going to
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Speaker 1: get to our featured listing, but first I do want
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Speaker 1: to talk speaking of listings. Your website, Rock Listing dot com.
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Speaker 1: That's Rocklistings dot Com. The website's got it's obviously got
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Speaker 1: listenings on it.
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Speaker 2: Sure.
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Speaker 1: I also see when you go to the website you
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Speaker 1: see the the tsd Tso the totally spaced Out trailer
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Speaker 1: container pod sitting out front of a house. Let's talk
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Speaker 1: about the why that's there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a new promotion we're doing this spring,
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Speaker 2: and we've had a number of people take advantage of
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Speaker 2: it already. We partner with Totally spaced Out. They're based
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Speaker 2: out of Edgerton. You know you think of pods where
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Speaker 2: you know they deliver it to your driveway. Well, this
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Speaker 2: is a local company. They deliver sixteen foot twenty foot
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Speaker 2: units to your driveway. You can take your time loading
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Speaker 2: it up, they can pick it up from there and
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Speaker 2: bring it to your new home. They can pick it
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Speaker 2: up stored in Edgerton until you're ready to move. Super convenient.
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Speaker 2: So what we did was we partnered with them and
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Speaker 2: we are offering that as kind of this added incentive
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Speaker 2: for working with Rock Realty, whether you're doing buying or selling.
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Speaker 1: What a really good incentive. What a really cool little
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Speaker 1: bonus too. And you can learn all the details online.
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Speaker 1: Rock Wisconsin dot com. That's rock R O c K Wisconsin.
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Speaker 1: Excuse to me be rocklistings dot com. You can also
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Speaker 1: go to rock with I wouldn't fault you if you
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Speaker 1: go to Rock Wisconsin. But if you go to rock Listings,
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Speaker 1: that's where you learn all about learn all about that.
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Speaker 1: And uh does this help too with with like staging
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Speaker 1: and kind of decluttering as well for folks when it
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Speaker 1: comes to like when you're showing your home, having some
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Speaker 1: of that stuff if you've got to got a place
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Speaker 1: to put it, kind of help with that as well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, if you if you're working on the buy side,
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Speaker 2: obviously it's probably not necessary until right when you're about
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Speaker 2: to move. On the cell side, a seller is going
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Speaker 2: to want to declutter, start getting some stuff out of
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Speaker 2: the home, some of those personal items, and uh so
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Speaker 2: they we'll have those pods delivered a bit earlier, you know,
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Speaker 2: maybe even before you know getting it up on the market.
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Speaker 1: I always, I'm always amazed by by what sometimes holds
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Speaker 1: people back. And I know sometimes you know, especially you've
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Speaker 1: been in your house while you're like I dread like
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Speaker 1: the idea of listing my own because I don't want
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Speaker 1: to pack and have a big old moving day and
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Speaker 1: those type of things. And this is a really convenient
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Speaker 1: thing to really kind of let you at your leisure
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Speaker 1: get things loaded up. And what a great, great promotion
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Speaker 1: going on again. You can learn more online the website
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Speaker 1: rocklistings dot com. That's rock rock listings dot com speaking
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Speaker 1: of rocklistings and houses in the area that you guys have.
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Speaker 1: This is a really cool this week's featured listing, really
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Speaker 1: cool condo. And I looked on the map, what a
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Speaker 1: fantastic location. This is just off of just off the Isthmiths,
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Speaker 1: just off University have as well. Let's talk about this
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Speaker 1: this place on Brody Drive. Yeah, in March as normal,
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Speaker 1: we have a lot of listings hitting the market. I
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Speaker 1: wanted to feature this one because it's it's a rarety
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Speaker 1: to get something affordable in Madison that's conveniently located. So
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Speaker 1: this is a condo at fifty three to nineteen Brody Drive.
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Speaker 1: It's unit one three and it's listed for only two
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty nine thousand and nine hundred two bedroom,
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Speaker 1: one and a half bath, and uh you know it's
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Speaker 1: uh got a pool there as well that you can
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Speaker 1: partake in. So I thought it was a it was
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Speaker 1: a nice little listing to feature. And you talk about
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Speaker 1: convenience as well. The price is amazing, and then you
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Speaker 1: look at kind of where you are on the map,
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Speaker 1: like literally, you've got the convenience of just a hop,
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Speaker 1: skip and a jump from from the downtown area. I
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Speaker 1: jump in an uber, you're there, and you know, a
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Speaker 1: couple of bucks, you're you're right downtown and a heart
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Speaker 1: of everything. Prime spot. In places like this, they don't
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Speaker 1: come around all that often, do they.
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Speaker 2: Man, No, they don't. I mean a lot of people, Uh,
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Speaker 2: you know kind of stick around because it's hard, it's
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Speaker 2: hard to find affordable yeah, yeah living, Yeah, and especially
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Speaker 2: runs down that area not the cheapest, but yeah, it's
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Speaker 2: really close to Hilldale as well. You can just jump
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Speaker 2: on over to Hilldale Mall and yeah, I mean there's
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Speaker 2: a some good stuff there.
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Speaker 1: Could you do you mentioned the rent word? Could you
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Speaker 1: do an investment property with something like that?
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Speaker 2: It all depends on the condo association. Typically those are
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Speaker 2: a little more rare. Most condo docs will specifically state
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Speaker 2: that it's not allowed to be rented. Some of them
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Speaker 2: will state that it can be rented, but it has
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Speaker 2: to be a year term, and you know, there are
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Speaker 2: the occasional ones that do allow for more short term
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Speaker 2: or longer term rentals, but that does raise some question
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Speaker 2: marks with financing, so you have to get a little
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Speaker 2: more creative with financing on condos like that.
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Speaker 1: I just see that spine, like, oh my goodness, that
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Speaker 1: that could be something really what a great place to
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Speaker 1: live as well. So of course Sadie A you are
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Speaker 1: is the listing agent on this one. We've had Sadie
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Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, really really great agent to
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Speaker 1: work with. By the way, Oh see, yes, yes, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: and her number nine two zero nine eight eight sixty
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Speaker 1: seven oh two. That's nine eight eight sixty seven oh two.
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Speaker 1: That's a nine to zero area code. And Matt, this
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Speaker 1: morning is today is Earth Day, which means a lot
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Speaker 1: of us are thinking about the environment and things we
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Speaker 1: can do when there's kind of there are benefits to
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Speaker 1: being environmentally conscious. Obviously, it's always a good thing when
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Speaker 1: you do things better for the planet and of course
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Speaker 1: help with longevity and to sustainability. There's also savings when
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Speaker 1: it comes to being energy efficient. Let's talk about some
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Speaker 1: of the some of the key points when it comes
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Speaker 1: to being more energy efficient and some of the options
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Speaker 1: out there homeowners and folks have when it comes to upgrading.
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Speaker 1: Some of these things are very affordable by the way,
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Speaker 1: they're overall energy efficiency in their home.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, we've got some energy efficient kind
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Speaker 2: of home tips here that we can kind of go over.
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Speaker 2: You know, most people are probably familiar with a lot
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Speaker 2: of them, but you know, it doesn't hurt to kind
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Speaker 2: of reiterate some of the things, one of those being
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Speaker 2: LED lighting. Right, going ahead and replacing your bulbs with LED.
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Speaker 2: It's amazing the difference that incandescent bulb and l D bulb,
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Speaker 2: the difference in electricity usage. So they've gotten very creative
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Speaker 2: too with the LED lighting, you know. I mean, it's
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Speaker 2: pretty pretty hard to find a ball that hasn't had
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Speaker 2: the conversion to LED. You know, so maybe sometimes those
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Speaker 2: chandelier balls, maybe maybe those ones are those exotic yeah, weird,
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Speaker 2: the candle looking ones, but I'm sure they have those two,
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Speaker 2: you know.
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Speaker 1: We It's funny when you mentioned to l ed's. I
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Speaker 1: remember when I was a kid, it was very much
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Speaker 1: like you turn off your lights, right, that was a
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Speaker 1: big thing. Incandescent bulbs literally would chew up energy. As
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Speaker 1: a father, I always thought I was going to be
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Speaker 1: like that with my son, like make sure you turn
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Speaker 1: off lights, and I do remind him the turn off lights.
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Speaker 1: But the reality is it's just habit. LEDs really do
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Speaker 1: make an impact on energy. It's easier on kids.
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Speaker 2: Yes, No, I remember back when I worked at sub zero,
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Speaker 2: one of our big selling pots was this refrigerator uses
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Speaker 2: less energy than a hundred ball. So wow, it just
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Speaker 2: goes to show you how much energy I can incandescent
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Speaker 2: bulb actually uses.
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Speaker 1: Really it's interesting too as you think about thing about
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Speaker 1: savings and of all the type of things you think
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Speaker 1: of too, about heating, cooling, those areas, there are some
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Speaker 1: really good products out there that when it comes to
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Speaker 1: controlling the temperature, heat, humidity, uh, coolness of your home. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Smart thermostats are a good option, aren't they. Yeah? Yeah.
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Speaker 2: The neat thing about the smart thermostat ish it can
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Speaker 2: adapt to kind of your lifestyle. Right. Let's say you
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Speaker 2: like it's cooler in the evening when you're sleeping, or
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Speaker 2: maybe cooler during the day, or maybe you want to
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Speaker 2: keep keep the heat low until you're just about to
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Speaker 2: get off work. You can you can do those things
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Speaker 2: with a smart thermostats. So having that and especially having
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Speaker 2: one that's like a you know, tied end with Wi
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Speaker 2: Fi so that you can control it, you know, on
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Speaker 2: your phone, is a It's a pretty neat option to
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Speaker 2: have and it can save some money.
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Speaker 1: There's other you mentioned to some of the comfort stuff
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Speaker 1: is our house. We have a two zone heating, so
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Speaker 1: we can have different but the main part of the
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Speaker 1: house has has one system and the and we have
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Speaker 1: the smart system that hasstats, not not thermostats, thermometers in
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Speaker 1: all the rooms and it's smart enough to know, like
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Speaker 1: at night, which room we're in, So it's monitoring all
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Speaker 1: the room temperatures now, but it knows where you are
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Speaker 1: and it adjusts to that room. So let's say you know,
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Speaker 1: typically your thermostats in a living room, you say, oh,
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Speaker 1: it's always gets so hot or get so cold in
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Speaker 1: the bedroom at night. These things are smart enough to
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Speaker 1: know where you are and adust the temperature there and
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Speaker 1: could that could ultimately and does ultimately lead to lower
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Speaker 1: bills there.
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Speaker 2: As well as a nice system here.
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Speaker 1: That's a very nice system. I'll have to I'll have
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Speaker 1: to show you all about U. We're actually going to
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Speaker 1: talk about where I learned about it in just a moment.
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Speaker 1: Drafty windows doors, that is definitely uh. I think they
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Speaker 1: would call that low hanging fruit to address, isn't it.
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Speaker 2: Sure? Sure? I mean some people will you kind of
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Speaker 2: do the easy solution of the the saran wrap over
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Speaker 2: the window. Sure, yeah, especially over the winter. But you know,
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Speaker 2: the the ideal thing to do there is to you know,
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Speaker 2: replace the the small little thrusholds on the doors and
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Speaker 2: or the weather stirping on the windows, just to make
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Speaker 2: sure that those drafts aren't coming through. And it's a
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Speaker 2: pretty you know, cheap fix as far as parts go,
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Speaker 2: you know, just a little bit of labor, but it's
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Speaker 2: it's probably gonna have a significant impact on your energy
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Speaker 2: bills when you're not having a cool or warm draft
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Speaker 2: coming in.
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Speaker 1: One of the things I want to ask you about
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Speaker 1: you mentioned that that, of course you you under you
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Speaker 1: know a lot about appliances. People may be surprised to
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Speaker 1: learn that you mentioned that energy savings h newer apply
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Speaker 1: modern appliances. You kind of illustrated they actually do have
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Speaker 1: a kind of have a substantial impact on lowering your
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Speaker 1: overall energy usage. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, it's it's interesting how they obtain that, right,
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Speaker 2: energy Star is the big name that everybody's kind of
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Speaker 2: probably heard of. You if you can choose energy Star products,
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Speaker 2: you're generally going to be uh using less like electricity. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: but there's so many different things that go into it.
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Speaker 2: Like a refrigerator, they'll have compressors, and you know what
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Speaker 2: they learned. It's sim You know how a car they've
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Speaker 2: kind of turned to have it sometimes shut off automatically
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Speaker 2: at the stoplight. Well, what they learned with a lot
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Speaker 2: of these refrigerators is it it's more cost effective and
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Speaker 2: uses less energy to have it just continuously run and
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Speaker 2: just it kind of at lower amounts, right, So there's
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Speaker 2: not as big as swings in the temperature, and it's
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Speaker 2: better for the food and such inside too.
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Speaker 1: Fascinated. I guess I had never heard that. That's very interesting.
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Speaker 1: We talk a lot about some of the stuff you
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Speaker 1: do inside outside as well. There are some sustainable ideas
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Speaker 1: when it comes to landscaping, and these things not only
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Speaker 1: could make your house look better, but can cut down
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Speaker 1: on costs as well, can't they.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean some of the things you can do
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Speaker 2: is add some native plants that can kind of support
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Speaker 2: the local ecosystem. Requires a little less maintenance. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's used to surviving in the Wisconsin environment. You can
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Speaker 2: do composting, right, taking kitchen scraps and turning that into
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Speaker 2: you know, fertilizer and such through a composting bin. Other
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Speaker 2: things would be rainwater harvesting. Just depends on how committed
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Speaker 2: you want to get getting out there and getting things done.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is for sure. And some of this stuff
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Speaker 1: too can cain beautify and of course you think about
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Speaker 1: things like rainwater, and water can get get quite pricey
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Speaker 1: if you if you're not careful with it. So we're
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Speaker 1: gonna break down some things I mentioned earlier some of
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Speaker 1: the areas when we were talking about thermostats and other things.
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Speaker 1: There's a group called Focus on Energy. We're going to
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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about them, what they're able to
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Speaker 1: do for you. We've got some other details. Will also
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Speaker 1: readdress and talk about this fantastic property. Are featured listing
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Speaker 1: this week right at thirty fifty three to nineteen Brody
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Speaker 1: Drive here in Madison. We'll get the details from that
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Speaker 1: on that. Next as Ask the Experts with Rock Realty
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Speaker 1: continues here on thirteen ten Wui b A eight fifty
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Speaker 1: Wisconsin dot com. Dolph Umber six O eight six seven
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Speaker 1: three fifty four hundred. That's six seven fifty four hundred.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of websites too, if you haven't been over to
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Speaker 1: the website rocklistings dot com. Really good website. As we
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Speaker 1: talked with Matt earlier about a great promotion they have
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Speaker 1: going on with totally spaced out and get all of
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Speaker 1: the details online at rocklistings dot com. That's rockrock listings
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Speaker 1: dot com. Talking this week, of course, Hit at earth
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Speaker 1: Day Today is talking about some energy efficient home tips
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Speaker 1: and there is a group that is I do believe
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Speaker 1: they work with the power companies I think is where
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Speaker 1: they're primarily funded. It's a statewide agency focus on energy,
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Speaker 1: and it's a really good place to kind of get
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Speaker 1: a start for folks to start the conversation or start
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Speaker 1: the ideas of what can I do to make my
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Speaker 1: home more efficient. It's a It's a really good organization,
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Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a few different organizations out there. Focus on
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Speaker 2: energy is one of the top ones and probably a
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Speaker 2: perfect first place to go when people are considering, you know,
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Speaker 2: how can how can they button up their older home
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Speaker 2: to make a little more energy efficient Let's say, right,
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Speaker 2: newer builds. Obviously they're a little more air tight. Yes, yeah,
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Speaker 2: but no, they can help residents analyze their energy costs
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Speaker 2: just make sure that they can get that home to
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Speaker 2: be a little more energy efficient with tools and tips.
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Speaker 1: And they've also gone a little tip for folks if
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Speaker 1: you haven't been over to focus on energy recently, you
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Speaker 1: go to their website. You can oftentimes get very steeply
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Speaker 1: discounted energy, smart thermostats, weather stripping, all that kind of
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Speaker 1: stuff we've been talking about that's available as well. It's
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Speaker 1: a really, really really good website as well. Speaking of
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Speaker 1: ways folks are saving energy and focusing on solars, it
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Speaker 1: is a thing that a lot of folks consider. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot to think about. There are incentives and other
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Speaker 1: things that folks should be aware of when it comes
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Speaker 1: to thinking about going solar, about exploring there isn't there Yeah, I.
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Speaker 2: Mean, as far as energy efficiency goes, solar tends to
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Speaker 2: come first to mind, right, and a lot of incentives
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Speaker 2: and rebates for going solar, whether or not that's state
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Speaker 2: or federal and there's even you know, financing programs to
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Speaker 2: make it pretty affordable. You know, that's that's usually what
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Speaker 2: the salespeople are telling you about, right, But yeah, there's
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Speaker 2: a federal solar tax credit, so Wisconsin homeowners can take
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Speaker 2: advantage of that. You know, I and obviously check to
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Speaker 2: make sure, but I believe it's a thirty percent credit
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Speaker 2: on their federal taxes when they switch to solar. So
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Speaker 2: that's that's one of the bigger, you know, bigger credits
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Speaker 2: that people are excited for and kind of push them
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Speaker 2: over the defence to choose solar. But yeah, there's also
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Speaker 2: Wisconsin solar tax credits. You know, there's a property tax exemption,
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Speaker 2: so like even though you know you have a large
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Speaker 2: home improvement like installing solar panels, you know it won't
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Speaker 2: increase your property taxes. It's a property tax exemption for
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Speaker 2: solar panels.
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Speaker 1: Do we see when it comes to folks looking to
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Speaker 1: buy a home, are these things? I know a lot
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Speaker 1: of this stuff is definitely added value to the overall
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Speaker 1: overall home, but do things like solar panels do you
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Speaker 1: get clients are saying we'd really like to see IM
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Speaker 1: guessing folks that have maybe had them in the past,
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Speaker 1: probably once you're in you really want to make sure
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Speaker 1: you've got them still.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's definitely an added benefit.
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Speaker 2: It's something that does, you know, help sell the home
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Speaker 2: maybe over a house that doesn't have solar panels, you know.
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Speaker 2: I sold one to McFarland, And you know, the two
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Speaker 2: big questions were, hey, can we see an example of
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Speaker 2: the utility bill, you know, and it shows just how
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Speaker 2: small it was or non existent, which is a big
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Speaker 2: selling point, right, especially considering you know, we don't really
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Speaker 2: have any control on energy prices, right, so who knows
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Speaker 2: where it could go? A fixed mortgage is a fixed mortgage,
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Speaker 2: but who knows where the.
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Speaker 1: Costs on the monkey basis now? Right?
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Speaker 2: So, and then the other big question was whether or
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Speaker 2: not those solar panels are paid off. So it's just
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Speaker 2: one thing to consider is if you're buying a house,
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Speaker 2: if the solar panels are paid off, you shouldn't have
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Speaker 2: an issue. If they aren't paid off, sometimes have to
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Speaker 2: be paid off at closing, or you'll have to assume
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Speaker 2: that that amount that's over.
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Speaker 1: That's I I know that their financed. Oftentimes that way,
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Speaker 1: I guess i'd never thought about that being part of
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Speaker 1: a home sale as well. And that's one of the
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Speaker 1: great things about working with an experienced agent understanding again
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Speaker 1: great benefit solar panels, amazing to buy a house with
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Speaker 1: solar panels installed, but making sure that when you're working
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Speaker 1: with an agent that they understand all of the kind
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Speaker 1: of the ins and outs and those really interesting and
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Speaker 1: important nuances when it comes to that, and that's a
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Speaker 1: great thing working with the folks at Rock Realty. Of course,
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Speaker 1: you can learn more online the website rock Wisconsin dot com.
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Speaker 1: That's r o c K Wisconsin dot com. That's r
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Speaker 1: o c K Wisconsin dot com, Rock Wisconsin dot com.
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Speaker 1: Another website we've talked about this morning is rock Listings
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Speaker 1: dot com. That's r o c K Listings dot Com.
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Speaker 1: And of course, so they've got the listings up there
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Speaker 1: for Rockrealty. They've also got the details on their promotion
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Speaker 1: with totally spaced out. What a great benefit that is
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Speaker 1: for if you're if you're selling and listing your home,
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Speaker 1: able to put your stuff somewhere in the in the
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Speaker 1: mobile storage solution. Very cool. How did you guys, and
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Speaker 1: I know we had I'm drawn a blank on his
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Speaker 1: name right now Avery, Avery. I was gonna say Aiden,
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Speaker 1: but it's Avery had him in a couple of weeks ago.
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Speaker 1: But how did you guys partner up on this? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: You know, it turns out that you know, we both
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Speaker 2: live in Stoughton, and uh, you know, I had actually
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Speaker 2: seen these trailers out and about and we made a connection,
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Speaker 2: and I thought it was pretty neat to have a
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Speaker 2: solution like that that's locally based. They typically will we'll
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Speaker 2: go about a thirty mile radius, but they also can
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Speaker 2: do customer quotes if you're like moving out of state and.
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Speaker 1: Ston really really very very cool and get all the
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Speaker 1: details online rocklistings dot com. That's rocklistings dot com. Speaking
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Speaker 1: of listings, what listing we have this week for a
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Speaker 1: featured listing? This house right on the cities. Would you
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Speaker 1: call it near west side? That's basically on the isthmus.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're right right in the heart of everything.
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Speaker 1: So it's a it's a great house and the price
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Speaker 1: is not going to be beat is it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah? For those that can't find anything affordable in Madison,
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Speaker 2: this is the listing for you. And to find anything
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Speaker 2: under two hundred fifty thousand dollars in Dane County. Let
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Speaker 2: alone Madison, Yeah, let alone close to downtown. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's a two bedroom, one and a half bath house
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Speaker 2: at condo sorry at fifty three to nineteen Brody Drive,
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Speaker 2: Unit one oh three, and it's listed for two thirty nine,
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Speaker 2: nine hundred.
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Speaker 1: And it's a really nice condo, really nice building. As
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Speaker 1: we've been talking about the location as well, a fantastic location.
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Speaker 1: But there's one and a half baths. I mean, this
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Speaker 1: is what a thousand square feet, So it's a it's
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Speaker 1: a it's a fair sized condo in a great location
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Speaker 1: and a great building in a great neighborhood. It's got everything. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: next time somebody says to me, you can't find I
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Speaker 1: can't find anything affordable in Madison, I'm just gonna hand
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Speaker 1: them this page.
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Speaker 2: Yeah they're rare, but this one's here.
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Speaker 1: So this is here. Come get it for now. And
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Speaker 1: that's why you got exactly get on it. Call Sadie
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Speaker 1: this morning. Your telephone number nine two zero nine eight
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Speaker 1: eight sixty seven oh two. That's nine two zero nine
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Speaker 1: eight eight sixty seven oh two. You can see this
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Speaker 1: other listings online rocklistings dot com. That's rock r O
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Speaker 1: c K listings dot com. Don't forget as well as
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Speaker 1: we talk with Matt each and every week. If you
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Speaker 1: ever a miss part of the program, you can always
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Speaker 1: course Rock Wisconsin is their main website, Rock R O
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