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Game Week 8 Premier League Show! · On The Edge Sports Podcast

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to On the Edge Sports Podcast Premier League show.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: Myself, Brendan Tierney, and joined as always by Darren Kearns.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_00: Darren, uh, as Arsenal men, we we were happy with the weekend.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh kind of a workman-like performance against Everton.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_00: It was took the old kind of set pieces came back into play, two defenders scoring.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh like someone said, they're just boringly efficient at times.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: And when you're the champions, everyone's trying to take a pop at ja and they'll lock it back in, and it's hard to break through.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_01: But sit sit in low blocks and come at us.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I was uh great to get the three points, don't get me wrong.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like and workman like performance, yeah, never looked in any way, shape, or form uh in danger, really.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, like just a quick thanks to our sponsors, EJ Menswear and EJ Menswer.com here in Sligo Town.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: And constant scores early on, you know, from a bit of a mess around round the corner, but they they they probably should have got one or two previous to that in the first opening few corners that they were throwing into the box.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: So it was it was like it was only a matter of time.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought then everything were going to come out and leave a bit of space in behind, you know.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_01: But no, like David Moyes just was like you're dogged, and I think we just hoped it would go the right way somewhere.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_01: We might get one from a counter-attack or from a set piece ourselves, and we stay in the game.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_01: And when you're only one-nil up, you're always you know open at happening.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_01: There's nothing safe like there's not, but then we get a good goal by Gabrielle at the back post.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but again, it's it's you needed this the bench coming on, you know, you needed the subs coming in, making an impact.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um but to be able to bring in Marino, Zuba Mendi, Gumaris, yeah, Max Downman, Calafiore, like Jesus, it's it's it the squad is unbelievable, and it must be frightening for other teams, you know what I mean, to look in and do that, like you know.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: And and you're just like, you know, if if more teams, if more teams took the Brighton approach against us a few weeks ago and came out and played football, like wouldn't it would make for a better spectacle?
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: And like people are saying boring, boring Arsenal, and but she you can only play what's in front of you.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: What are you supposed to do?
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like look back at the Bayern Munich game.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: What a game of the game.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like I was watching it, I don't know if we mentioned this from the last no, we weren't here last week, but uh I was like, I don't mind if we lose this by two-one.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, it's a game of football at last.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_00: I've said this loads of times.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's time the Premier League did a bit of a like a GA rules two up or something or three up, or yeah, something has to change so that the like any team shouldn't be able to just lock in.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: I just said but I think the like in Galay football, the the weaker clubs as well can then they might get a bit more hold on, we can actually play like it's but in in them games, and I keep harping on about it, it's it's it's all about the opening goal, it really is.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_01: And Arsenal got it early on, and you know, three points on the board, that's all you can ask for, and especially what happened on Saturday morning with Aston Villa beating Man City.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, like when that happens, and you're we'll say, look at regardless of what's going to happen, Man City, they're where they are at the moment, and teams can only play them and beat them or compete against them and see where where you get.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_01: So Man City dropped points on Saturday morning.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_01: So Arsenal's job then is to go and close that gap, you know, because there's no point them dropping points in your turn around, then only getting a draw against the likes of Everton, or especially when the game's at home.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_01: So Aston Villa then, you know, like they had started very slowly in the Premier League.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_01: We had mentioned it a few a few times, you know, they weren't scoring goals.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_01: I had mentioned was Nicholas Jackson the man to get them across the line.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you always stood by him.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: I definitely didn't, but I stood by him on Sunday.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: There's a good player there, was it was he Bayern last year?
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_00: Bayern last year.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like he did kick in a few goals there, like a fairness.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: There's a player there, but look, I think all of us football fans have to give players a lot more time and patience and credit.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, but obviously that doesn't happen in football games.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like they scored the opening goal very early on in the game.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was five or six minutes that they scored the opening goal, and then you know, you're waiting for City to catch fire, and obviously, when you have that machine up front, he's you give him half a chance, it's a good chance he's going to get a goal, and he brings them back into it.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_01: And you're thinking they're gonna go on and win the game here now, it's only a matter of time, and that's what people were thinking.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: And next thing Villa go down the field, and they get a great goal by next Jackson, great move, cross the ball into him, and he finishes with a plum, and he really does.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_01: And they hold on an emory type win, you know, like like structured win, you know, don't go out of your shape, stay compact.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_00: And they had a lot of good performers throughout the field because I watched most of the game, but Man City, you know, like they're you know, they've the players that they have, and it's just Semenya's obviously a big loss, like Jeremy Docu is unbelievable, but like uh Maddie Cash had a great game against him the other day.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: He did it.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: It must be he must be one of the hardest attackers to defend against.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_01: And he got a yellow card, and it was like I was thinking he was going to be taken off because when you're playing against him, you know, one missed time challenge by a split second because his feet are dancing in front of you, and you're going sending off, and you're down to ten men, and then that's that's obviously game over at that stage.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_01: But no, he held his discipline and he got got them across the line.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_00: And in fairness, Emery, like you have to give him kudos.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we obviously had him at Arsenal at one point, and he was doing great for a while, uh, but he seems to bring teams to a peak A level.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: And it can't seem to go next, but maybe with the right team and the right budget.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_00: But like there, there's not a lot of world-class stars in that Villa team, and they have been decimated.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: But the goalie Suzuki, we've talked about him here before, like some of the kickouts in Joy Twitch.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: Allison, really zippy little attacker there.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_00: Not unbelievable, all the game, but like there's a bit of talent there.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: Manzambi's Manzambi, he just seems to be a solid player, and said there'll be something more coming from that man as the season goes on.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but uh, yeah, no, look, Villa, it's a few teams.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Villa, obviously, they seem to maybe find their feet again.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_00: Another team, uh, Tottenham, beating Chelsea.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and like no, I didn't get to see all of this game now, but Cole Primer obviously getting a red card in the 80th minute.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_00: So it was a little up to 77.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_01: It was it was you know, topsy turvy game, it really was.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Chelsea were kind of flattering to deceive, you know.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_01: It was like like Spurs were there for the take-in because obviously they're on, they're a little bit down with the results over the last few weeks, but opening goal again.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Penders is in goals for Chelsea.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's backup keeper.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_01: He was with Strasbourg last year, and he makes a bit of a shambles of a cross or corner coming into the box, and he fists it into his own net.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: And that was the lifeline that Spurs needed something to cling on to.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_01: Chelsea then kind of lost their discipline.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: They really did.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: You mentioned Cole Palmer got the red card, he could have been sent off before that for a bit of a kick out, and then Matthias Tell gets uh breakaway goal late on with a couple of minutes left.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: Good, very good goal, great run, and finished into the bottom corner.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, have Spurs turn the corner?
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: Hard to know.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: Not necessarily.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_00: No, not necessarily.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: But I think we've been questioned Chelsea, like like there's no you wouldn't look at their back line, like Caldwell, Lacroix, Achampong there, you know, Hato, these guys now Casito was back, Jordan Henderson, but like yeah, Joe Pedro missing for them is a is a huge huge outfit, like yeah, yeah.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: Morgan Rogers is up front on his own, then kind of playing around.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: But like you know, and then like you're you're chasing the game and you're you're turning around to the bench as Alonso is, and he's like, Okay, who am I going to put in here?
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, you you're you're talking Danny Wellbeck, like and he if he really trusted Wellbeck in that situation, I think he has him on with 20 to go.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know, like like to get you the goal or to to go and win you the goal?
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: Would he go?
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I should have started him.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: If he gets tired, bring him off, then you know, like yeah, Esteval came on, uh Palestra, like again.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: You look at the rest of it, Fafana, Bark, Augusto, Charman Lowe, and Acoule's like are you just going, yeah, you're really going down this five dressing room squad they have at Chelsea, and you're like, who who are who are these guys, you know?
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: And then you go to the flip side, like like I I know Madison came off injured for Spurs, and it's like they I think is it over the last couple of seasons he's only completed something like 10-90 minute games, you know.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it wouldn't surprise me.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_01: It sounds about right now.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_01: That's not good enough for the likes of him.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_01: They're getting obviously getting Kulaswski back on the pitch is a is a big player for them.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: But again, look at it's it's Spurs warranted the victory, they did, yeah, but it was more so that Chelsea were poor than Spurs being very good.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, look, as I said, uh two teams that I suppose haven't been solid nor convincing so far.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um just a couple of other results in Fulham at a vital away win at Coventry.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Newcastle again, a team needing a result, getting two goals there against Palace away.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: That was on Sunday.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: Hall and Brentford won one, you know, nothing really significant you can think of.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_01: Newcastle was a uh was a very big win because again, you know, they don't really know where they are.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_01: Palace are there for the taking, right?
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: So again, in that game, it was all about the first goal, it was all about the opening goal.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like there was no team in the Premier League came from behind and won at the weekend.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like it just shows you that the opening goal is crucial in these games.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, they get it.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: Osulu, great ball in by Jacob Murphy, whipped the ball in, he gets he gets a good goal, and then Harvey Barnes, who's a right good footballer, probably a little bit inconsistent with his gameplay, he gets a second goal, and then Horlichek for Newcastle pulled off a few very good saves.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: He really did, and but again, it's a game that Newcastle really needed to win, and you're touching on the Fulham victory there over Coventry, like badly, badly needed win as well for Fulham.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like Oscar Bob gets the winner, great dancing feet on the edge of the box, and he whips it in with his left foot into the far corner.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_01: Badly needed three points, really was.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I again that's with Newcastle where they're up in eighth now.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: They're in 11 points.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the Nottingham Forest are in and 18th, the top of the relegation trio.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: So there's five points between them there.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: So there's no one you're getting worried.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: Sunderland on five, Coventry and six.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: So there's no one starting to fall away too early yet.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Liverpool 2-0 against Brighton.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I did watch this game.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: Good entertainment.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: Again, Brighton were still brilliant.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like some of the moves uh they had were like unbelievable still.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like they saw bouncing the ball off.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: They're gonna be they're gonna be those mad teams as like brilliant attack and next week could lose one or two-nell.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and and look at Anfield for teams going to Anfield would be like, okay, sit in, let's be compact.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: And we're talking about whatever they've done when they came to uh Arsenal, the Emirates at the weekend.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: But like Brighton just went for it, okay.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_01: And if they get that opening goal, you know, it was an open goal that Ayari was it that put the ball over the bar.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: Great move.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_01: Allison runs out, ball by Pascal Gross's square back, and he plays it over the bar.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: They get that opening goal, there's a good chance they'll probably go on and win it because then Liverpool have to go chase in the game.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: Liverpool Verts gets a deflected goal, gets off gross, yeah.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you know, that that's that's a lucky goal.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: And then obviously Isaac gets a very good goal, great ball in by Barcola, and he flicks it to the net.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_01: And even after that, then like Brighton hit the post.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: Allison made one or two saves, you know.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, well, Brighton had 16 shots to Liverpool's 11.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: Now Liverpool had four on targets versus Brighton's one.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: So possession, Brighton 64%.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: Now, obviously, we're Arsenal fans, we're gonna play them Super Sunday this this Sunday and half four.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: Again, I was running into my other Liverpool friend there.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: I said be a great measure where the two teams are at.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think anyone in Liverpool are going, oh, but could we be in the title race if we win this game?
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: But like, are some other signs like uh Arauho?
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's he's a machine at the back there, like and he's not afraid.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: God, he did some uh very physical uh tackling and aggression towards his opponent.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: So so like it'll be interesting to see him now on Sunday as well.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's good for Liverpool, it really is, though, and sets it up nicely for the Super Sunday game, definitely.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh look, I mean Sunderland and Leeds nil-nil on a very unfortunate Super Sunday, nothing of significance happening there.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: No, look, I suppose if your Leeds are going, look at it, we went to a tough-away game to Sunderland, and we still but like Sunderland at bottom of the league, like and there's not where they want to be.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I see I see uh players on the inside coming out and question the manager's tactics and shouldn't be happening.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: And what you're gonna mention now when you're talking about players coming out mentioning um managers' tactics.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we'll go on to the main game of Sunday, and I did watch this Man United's Bournemouth and shambles.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_01: They just looked so inept, and I know we've talked about them the last few weeks, and you know, there's probably like oh they'll they'll get it they'll get it right, or they'll win some of the easier games, but no, they were and like Bournemouth have been in bad form, and obviously Bournemouth played in Europe on Thursday night, and it just shows you that the confidence a win can give a team like they beat AC Milan 3-0 on Thursday night, okay.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: The turnaround then and come to Old Trafford on Sunday to a team that's after losing to Como during the week in a sash of fortunes, like once you know, and it's like one team on the rise, one team on the up, you know, walking with their heads up with their chests out.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: United players are there, and there's obviously that route with Bruno Fernandez and Michael Carrick, and Michael Carrick, in fairness to him, he drops them right now.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: I think he should have dropped her from the squad.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think it just cut it created a pantomime on the bench and the cameras and kept going to him.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: We know nothing about managing the Premier League team, but yeah, I think he should have.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think, right, okay.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: If like what was he warming up for?
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: He was like he was obviously not coming on, you know, like they were they were out of the game, they were chasing the game.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: What are you gonna do?
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna turn around and try and bring on your captain and your main goal threader, your main guy that's gonna create a goal, and you don't turn to him.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: So, what did he have him on the bench for?
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: You know, was it I mean I feel sorry for Michael Carrick?
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: He seems like he's like he knows he's probably not a world-class manager, and he's been brought into a job.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: He like as people said last year, he did get them into Champions League, but they'd only one game a week.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so a lot of bigger clubs come back.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_01: I said this at the very start, and we started doing this pod like the eye-opener of playing two games a week for clubs is absolutely huge.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_01: And like, and as Arsenal fans, we we've seen it for numerous years, like you you weren't able to do it, and that's why you were falling off in the league.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: And you look at Spurs last year, they're playing Champions League football last year and playing well during the week, and they ended up in a relegation battle.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you know, it's absolutely crazy.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: Palace are in Europe this year, they're down in just outside the relegation.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: They're bottom of the table.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so these clubs are probably not strong enough, you know.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: Bournemouth, I suppose they've kind of come around to themselves, but if they lost on Sunday, they were at six points down the bottom of the table.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_01: So United then, obviously, but at home, and it's like but like some of the defensive play was just it was embarrassing at times.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_01: It really was like and like Bournemouth 3-0, it should have been four, five, six-nil.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and could have been just as easily.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like, there was some.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: What a finish by Evan Ailsen.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, well, I know it was an empty net, but like what a goal.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_01: You give that to a hundred times a hundred times under the god like and like and like that was like Harry Maguire asking Lamons to come out 25-30 yards from the goal when Harry Maguire should have just gone and closed it down himself.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_01: He's not going to score when the keeper standing the goals like you know what I mean.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_01: He still has an awful lot of work to do to try and get a goal, so you're passing the buck in that in that, but Evan Eagles flicks it around Lamons and and great finish in like those blustery wind blowing round all track.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_01: It could have gone anywhere, like it could have gone anywhere.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: But can you pick one Man United player that's playing well this season overall?
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I know a Man United fan would watch all their games and probably better input than us.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't like so I've watched it.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: But even the backstay like Aiden Heaven didn't have a good day out.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's only young, like uh Lenny Yoro just doesn't look very comfortable as a player.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Harry McGuire's Harry Maguire is coming towards the end of his career, so that's not what you want your defence based on.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: And then, of course, you have Martinez another giving his piece and he's on the show.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: Ryan that Ryan went by him, and like it's an off biddy Ryan didn't put the ball to the net because it was never it wasn't even related to a free and he was looking for it, and then you know, like you you don't need them kind of characters there, like that's like and then you go up like he's he had he had Mount playing, who's like he's obviously not good enough, but he's he's playing him ahead of Cunha, you know.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like Cunha.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that uh as an artist fan, you see Cunha coming on you like like last year, you got the Wonder Goal.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh very strange, like some of the decisions, like you know, Cunha on the bench, but is there anyone else on the bench?
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like Lysander Martinez has he even been playing that well, he's been causing a lot of mistakes.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: Shea Lacy, obviously, you know he's a young kid.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: Masrawi, he doesn't put the fear of God into the certainly out of the club during the summer.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Delitz started against Carl Darlow, you know.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: So like Delit started against Coach.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and that was his first game in nearly a year.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: So obviously he wasn't able to play two games in back to back, you know what I mean?
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like and then the talks uh since that game, it's obviously we're recording this on a Thursday night.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: Since then, there's apparently been clear the air talks.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but I'd say they're going, Well, we can't bring in another manager now.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe they can't get the one they want.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: So if if anybody that was watching, or anybody that watched it back on any of the highlight shows or the lowlight shows, you know, the fans were clapping Carrick as he was going off the pitch, okay?
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: And then once Carrick went down the tunnel, they started booing the players.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like a switch.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: Now I think I think it was like the fans were clapping him in the sense that Carrick was gone.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: I think Carrick thought he was gone.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think I'm pretty sure he did, right?
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: So you'd love to have heard the and I would say that the fans are saying, you know, thanks for what you've done for us.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: We'll give you, you know, a clap on the back and fair play to you, and it's time to move on.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna be sacked tomorrow morning.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: And then all of a sudden the board comes out.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: Now they have you you're gonna go through the fixtures ahead of the weekend, like you know.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't get any easier.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: Away to Chelsea, although Spurs will tell you wasn't that hard.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but like a way to Chelsea, Chelsea, who got a bad result at home last week, who will have to be thinking, Okay, we've got to put this right.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: Alonso will be saying, You're back at home again against a team.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: I wonder is uh Pedro back?
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't hear that.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't think so.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: I think he's out for a few weeks, but he's gonna be saying to this to his players, Man United are at a low web here now.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: Let's put them to the sword early on, let's do what we were doing at the start of the season, and let's go for goals very early in the game, put the game to bed.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: Because if Chelsea score early, this game is done for Man United.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like they're not coming back from that.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: If they can hang in the game, nick one themselves, you wouldn't know what way it could go.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: Something similar to the Spurs game, but I just I I can't see it.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: But look you just look at the lineup and said, if you were to pick Manion from Man United, like you could drop about seven of that first two.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: Anyone on the bench, Bar Cunha, that should be like bringing him on.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_01: And when you mentioned Tielemans came in and he he was, you know, big signing.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like he's been taken off in nearly every game.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: Your man Andros Santos, who they signed during the summer as well, doesn't look fit.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: Your man Baliba, there's a player in Baliba.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say it just it just comes and goes, like that'll that'll settle, I'm sure.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it it it should.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: But then like you're looking at Diallo on on the wing, like he doesn't produce enough goals or assists for they're missing uh the young English player, um Kobe Main, who was nursing.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he wasn't there the last year.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: But are they missing Manny Moore?
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, someone else will be watching now going, yeah.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: I can't think of anyone.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so I don't think it's the I think it's just the manager the problem there, you know.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: But like this is a team everyone was railing about last year, and Bruno Fernandes this and Bruno Fernandez at.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it'll be interesting to see what way it pans out for the next two weeks.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um so look, we'll we'll quickly just jump on to this weekend's fixtures.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, there's a massive super Saturday, there's a load of games on Chelsea Man United Live and Tilly.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh then at the three o'clock kickoffs, Bournemouth Leeds, uh Brentford, Nottingham Forest, Coventry Sunderland.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's a real kind of early relegation battle, you could say.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, definitely it's a six-pointer at the bottom of the team.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: Hull versus Ipswich, they they the the guys who just come up.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Man City Brighton.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Can't wait for that game.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that should be a good ones.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: City at home will play ball, and Brighton will play ball no matter where they go.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, they played each other last night because they're born on the Thursday in the EFL Cup.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: Uh penalties.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: Penalties, yeah.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: And I I know Man City had kind of completely changed their team around, but Brighton hold no fear.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: They're just going to go out and play their own game and see where it takes them.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: And it could just as easily be 3-1 to either team on Saturday afternoon.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: It really could.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then half five on Saturday night, Tottenham versus Palace.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: Again, you're not wetting the appetite with that one thinking, well, Tottenham, if they have turned the corner, that's where they're going to take off from.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: That'll be a kind of a marker for them.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: They they should be beating Palace at home comfortably, they really should.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: You know, because Palace, I think, are probably a game or two away from sacking their manager.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like I think the talks are there that he's he's already gone.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: And probably harsh on them because he said it's they've just come into you know playing European football as well.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, so look at you.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: Can't you can't have it every way.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Villa versus Fulham, that'll be an interesting one.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: Two teams who just got an important win last weekend.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's Saturday night at eight o'clock.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: So we have a whole Saturday.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: You can do nearly 12 hours of sports just in Premier Leagues alone.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and then Sunday, um, Liverpool v Arsenal.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I'm we're only going to focus on this game because it's two big teams, it's our own team.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like, do you see us winning there?
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'd take a draw right now.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think any of us would go keep the negative headlines away, no big loss of momentum.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: It is Liverpool.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: We traditionally don't do well there.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: Wasn't it was it last year, Sabusly's wonderful?
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: I think, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, opening day of the season.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's it, yes.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: And it was kind of a sickener one, you know.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: It was, yeah.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: But don't don't let don't let them have any leverage over it.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: And uh Sabasly is injured at the moment.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, no, I heard I'm not sure if he's back or not.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: I I'd be hoping he's not.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh god, like to me, he's their best player all around.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he makes Liverpool tick, he really does.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: And obviously, Isaac is back now and he's hitting a bit of form, and he's he's he's he's scoring a couple of goals, he's trying to you know win the fans around and justifying his price tag because obviously he got a really bad injury last season, but even before that, he hadn't been doing what he was supposed to be doing.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: Arsenal on the flip side of that, going okay, you know, they're without setting the world to light.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, going to Anfield is always tough for Arsenal.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: I always find it tough because Arsenal are the type of team they're gonna come and they're gonna try and go for it on Sunday afternoon.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: They're not gonna sit back and you know soak up the pressure, it's just not in their DNA to do it at Anfield.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: You know, if they they they probably would do it at in other places, but they're gonna come because they probably think that we can get the three points here.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, if you're the champions, yeah, you have to and look at the bench we have like you look at the likes of the guys that Liverpool have on the counter-attack, like Barcola takes an awful an awful bit of watching, he really will.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, but again, you're coming up now.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: Calafiore allegedly is not around.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he could be in.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: Solas is back.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'd like I'm looking forward to seeing him back in the team.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: He was just getting going, like you know.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure of Ez a overall on the left, and I'm not sure where that's going to work out.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: Havertz, I mean, we obviously lost to Fleetwood in the EFL Cup.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, as a sports fan, you go, What a wonderful fairy time for them.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: But you have to go, God's not the end of the world.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's not the end of the world, and I'd rather lose then if I'm going to lose, not near the like last year losing to City and everyone kind of getting worried.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, there's a few players in Arsenal, despite us, you know, joint top now, everything going pretty well.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: With Saka out injured, like and people saying that he, you know, he's he's not at the level where he was, or the standards that he set for himself.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: But that there's a lot of factors in that.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, he's an awful lot of football player.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: It he really has, like you know, and he he uh is picking up knocks and obviously with that tie injury he's going to be out for a couple of months, it's saying and you're mentioning Eze there.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like you're looking at Eze the week before uh uh against Bayern in the Champions League, he looked like a world-class player.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what is it about him?
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: He seems to come up to big games.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: He's a big game player, is that to the state of the game?
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: But I just think it's it's he needs the space, he needs to be able to like this uh when you're playing against low blocks and you're trying to take on somebody, and next thing there's there's space that you kick the ball into is filled by another player.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's it's very difficult.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: It really is.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, but there's no one taking Odegaard's place at the moment.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: No, even against Fleetwood when he came on, even like oh we're losing or we were drawn to that point, obviously.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: But the man is absolutely and even against Everton, yeah, like any youngster to watch how to play football.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: And and like it's not always silky and tricky either.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, he's smart and solid.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh oh, he's uh he's an but it's just I think I think just up top, I think we have just have we have an issue there, like like Havertz and Yakere is like scoring goals, it's just it's it's it's an issue because you mentioned Odegaard there, he'll create the the chances, yeah.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just if you don't have people putting the ball in the net, you no matter how many chances you you create, I think it takes Arsenal three or four chances before one of them guys will score a goal.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: And uh same against Everton, where it took defenders and kind of set pieces to but that's when it's the title last year in one sense, and you kind of hope maybe more expansive.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: But uh Yakarez has done okay, I thought, since he's come on in games, but obviously the main thing you're going to be measured on is goals, and he's not seeming to get them.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I I kind of like him as a player, but uh, you kind of go, Oh, it's only so much sympathy again.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: He tries his best and he wears his heart and his sleeve, but yeah, he's just not an out and out finisher, and it just shows you like when you're coming from where he came from when he was banging goals left, right, and centre.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, it's it's it's just one of these things, he doesn't have the natural finishing ability, he doesn't seem to have it, you know.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_01: And Harvers just takes too many chances before he can score.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: Don't get me wrong, good player, and I'd sooner have him there than not have him.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: And he's had his own bad luck with injuries down the last couple of seasons, but when he is fit, he seems to play, so yeah.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Arteta seems to like him, so yeah, I know it'll be interesting on Sunday.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: What way does it go?
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and as you said, Liverpool, you know, solid.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, again, Verts, Barcola's only in, Verts has been iffy enough, Gakpo kind of a solid player rather than you'd be afraid of him necessarily, you know.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: But like Isak is the interesting one, but again, like the army's in a Katique, yeah.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so and and Sabasai out, I think.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: No, but that's uh but uh and no more than anything else, like that's that's a super sundae to whet the appetite.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, yeah.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really looking forward to that one.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: That's a proper super Sunday.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully, we'll be in a little like last season.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: It might be now, yeah.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then to finish, and I think this is what you call a perfect Monday night football game, Newcastle versus Everton.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's that proper, oh yeah, proper fan base, good stadium, yeah, and then Everton, who have a good enough few ballers as well.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: They'll they I think they'll all play with play against each other.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: Everton will be going, we can take something of Newcastle like.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, so no, so look, it'll it'll be all good.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: And as I said, uh Arsenal get knocked out the other night.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um my god, my brain's gone blank.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: Our young Max Damon, Max Damon getting sent off.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: You can either be a parental style coach and go, You shouldn't have done what you've done.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: You don't I always say don't give the reference decision to make, but it absolutely was not a red card.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: No, it wasn't no question about it.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: And then our tether gonna give it out to him.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: But did he really give out him?
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: We don't know, but he's probably going, you know, you you know what you did wrong, even though it wasn't a red card.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, so it'll be a learning curve for him.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, so look at it.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_00: We will we will roll on and see what comes from there.
• 25:54
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• 25:55
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• 25:56
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• 26:05
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