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Estranged hubby dressed as Santa slaughters his entire family in holiday bloodbath · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. For all of you that
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Speaker 1: are going through your Christmas cards and getting ready for
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Speaker 1: the Christmas holiday or Hanukkah, It's not like that for everyone.
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Speaker 1: For many people, resentments of the year seem to boil
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Speaker 1: over at Christmas. I don't really understand why, but I
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Speaker 1: know there's a huge uptick in crime every holiday. Crime
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Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. It's one thing for anger to
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Speaker 1: boil over and you have an argument. It's another thing
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Speaker 1: for anger to boil over to resist sentiments that you
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Speaker 1: have festered come to the surface and result in a
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Speaker 1: mass murderer. Take a listen to this Grape Fun nine,
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Speaker 1: when one, where is your emergency? Hello? Grape fun nine,
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Speaker 1: when one we need help? Are you sick? What was that?
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Speaker 1: Do you need an ambulance or police? Hello? One moment,
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Speaker 1: I'll just put have a breathing on the fall and
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Speaker 1: I need a heavy breather. The heavy breather was trying
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Speaker 1: to save his life in the midst of a mass
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Speaker 1: shooting at Christmas. Again. I'm Nancy Grace, Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. Let me introduce to you and All
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Speaker 1: Star panel to break it down and put it back
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Speaker 1: together again. Levi Page Crime Online dot com. Investigative reporter
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Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of
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Speaker 1: Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, and star of the
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Speaker 1: hit new series Poisonous Liaisons on the True Crime Network.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us from LA. You can find
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Speaker 1: her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Ashi Wilcott judge,
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Speaker 1: trial lawyer, anchor Court TV. Joining us special guest Mashi
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Speaker 1: Mozdahe also Captain Todd Daring, Captain of Criminal Investigations at
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Speaker 1: the Grapevine PD. Alison Jones, a very dear friend to
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Speaker 1: the players in this case. You just heard that nine
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Speaker 1: one one call, and I've just got to start off
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Speaker 1: at the very beginning. I mean, Joscott Morgan. Why would
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Speaker 1: a dispatcher say I got a heavy breather. The guy
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Speaker 1: is clearly saying a shooting. I could hear him say that.
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Speaker 1: Isn't she trained to listen for words just like a shooting. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: they are, Nancy. But you know, in a nine to
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Speaker 1: eleventh center, in this communication centers from all over the country,
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Speaker 1: you never know what's going to be on the other line,
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Speaker 1: And sometimes they hear the absolute worst of the worst,
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Speaker 1: and they have to tune their ear in many times
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Speaker 1: to try to pick up on even the slightest little inflections. Remember, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: the people that are calling in, they do not call
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Speaker 1: in to let you know that their kid is on
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Speaker 1: the honor roll or they just won the lottery. This
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Speaker 1: is the most horrible thing you can possibly imagine. And
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Speaker 1: they're the first point of contact. Now. Of course, if
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Speaker 1: the nine on one dispatcher had been listening carefully, she
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Speaker 1: would have thought it was a victim calling in to
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Speaker 1: report a shooting was taking place. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: the nine on one call again, grape Fun nine when one,
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Speaker 1: Where is your emergency? Hello? Grape Fund nine one one?
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Speaker 1: You need help? Are you sick? What was that? Do
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Speaker 1: you need an ambulance or police? Hello? One moment, I'll
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Speaker 1: just get have a breathing on the fall and I
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Speaker 1: SA just getting heavy breathing on the phone. If she
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Speaker 1: had listened carefully, could lives have been saved? That's an
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Speaker 1: answer will never know. Take a listen to Amberfish or
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Speaker 1: in ACN. Around eleven thirty Christmas morning, grape Vine Police
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Speaker 1: received an open line nine one one call. We made
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Speaker 1: repeated attempts to try to get a hold of somebody.
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Speaker 1: No one responded straight out to Captain Todd Deering, Captain
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Speaker 1: Criminal Investigations there in grape Vine. Captain Deering again, thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us. When you get a nine
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Speaker 1: on one call and you can't make out what's happening,
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Speaker 1: what is sp standard operating procedure? What do you do well?
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Speaker 1: For starters, you're listening to a recording that you have
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Speaker 1: where the audio from the other end is being amped up.
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Speaker 1: Whenever we received the first phone calls, what the dispatcher
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Speaker 1: was hearing was much softer than what you're hearing on
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Speaker 1: that particular recording. So all she could hear was the
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Speaker 1: voice that are the heavy breathing in the background, and
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Speaker 1: she had the intuition on this particular point of pushing
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Speaker 1: it further and starting people that direction. Whenever they do
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Speaker 1: get nine on one calls like this, they also try
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Speaker 1: to call back and try to find out, you know,
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Speaker 1: is there a real emergency, wasn't an inadvertent phone call?
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Speaker 1: You know, things like that to see what is actually needed?
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Speaker 1: And so whenever she called back, there wasn't any responses.
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Speaker 1: So you're telling me, don't be quite so hard on
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Speaker 1: her because I'm hearing it enhanced and she would not
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Speaker 1: have hunted that jo okay, first responder intuition that said,
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Speaker 1: you know what, something's wrong. We need to send somebody
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Speaker 1: out there. She did a phenomenal job in this particular.
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Speaker 1: I'm always willing to be told I've got it, bass Ackwards,
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Speaker 1: and you're absolutely correct, Captain. See, I thought she's hearing
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Speaker 1: what I'm hearing, but you're telling me that this is enhanced.
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Speaker 1: That she didn't hear it that way, but acting on
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Speaker 1: a feeling, what did she do? She started sending units
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Speaker 1: that direction. And that's why when we first the officers
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Speaker 1: first got there, they you know, it's an only one
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Speaker 1: hang up call. We go and knock on the door,
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Speaker 1: try to find out someone is answering. And it's when
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Speaker 1: they got there, no one came to the door. They
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Speaker 1: started looking peeking through the windows. As a matter of fact, Captain,
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Speaker 1: your response time was incredible, right. We were there within
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Speaker 1: a few minutes. It was dispatched as soon as they
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Speaker 1: received the phone call, and we were there within a
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Speaker 1: couple of minutes. So I believe you got the call
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Speaker 1: around eleven thirty six, and you dispatched officers to the
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Speaker 1: scene at eleven thirty seven. That's great, straight out to
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Speaker 1: Alison Jones joining us. Allison, I believe this family they
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Speaker 1: were friends of yours, right, Yes, they were. I grew
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Speaker 1: up living three houses down from them my whole childhood,
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Speaker 1: and you were best friends with Nona, I think, yes,
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Speaker 1: we spent We drove to school together every day our
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Speaker 1: junior and senior year of high school. You know what,
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Speaker 1: You're bringing back all kind of memories because I grew
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Speaker 1: up out in the middle of soybean fields and pine trees,
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Speaker 1: and we did not farm, but we were in the
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Speaker 1: middle of farmland. And the family that worked the farm
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Speaker 1: near us had a son my age, and we would
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Speaker 1: ride to school together every single day. And I still
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Speaker 1: remember that, and we're still friends today. When you see
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Speaker 1: somebody every single day morning and afternoon, you have a bond.
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Speaker 1: So you and Nonah right back and forth to school
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Speaker 1: every day in junior and senior high right, yes, So
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Speaker 1: just to give a little background, I joined that school
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Speaker 1: my junior year of high school, and I had grown
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Speaker 1: up in the neighborhood with Nonah, and when I was
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Speaker 1: transferring to go to Callville Haritage High school. I reached
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Speaker 1: out to Nonah and we rekindled our elementary school friendship.
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Speaker 1: And she was my person in high school because I
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Speaker 1: knew no one in this big, giant school. I hadn't
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Speaker 1: had a boy in my class since the fourth grade,
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I'm going to this massive
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Speaker 1: high school and she was my person that got me
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Speaker 1: through every day, and so I would when I was
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Speaker 1: going to the school. We decided to car pull together
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Speaker 1: and we had one class together, and she would tell
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Speaker 1: me who every one was in the high school and
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Speaker 1: all their drama. She kept me informed with everyone, and
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Speaker 1: you know, every morning we drove, we got Chick fil
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Speaker 1: A for breakfast, and then we went to school together
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Speaker 1: and we met back up in the parking lot in
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Speaker 1: the afternoon and Joe Pump Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
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Speaker 1: we're talking about this beautiful family that lived there in
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Speaker 1: the grape Vine area and what unfolds for them at
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Speaker 1: Christmas is not a Christmas fairy tale, but a Christmas
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Speaker 1: horror story. And I was speaking right now to the
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Speaker 1: best friend of Nona uh yeahs Atapana, and I'm hearing
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Speaker 1: so much about her and it's bringing her to life
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Speaker 1: from me, Alison, you said that she you know, as
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Speaker 1: you went to this new school, you need nobody but her,
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Speaker 1: or she's like a lifeline to you. She'd tell you
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Speaker 1: who everybody was and all their drama. You would describe
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Speaker 1: her as your best friend at that time, right, Yes,
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Speaker 1: at that time, for sure, she was my best friend.
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Speaker 1: Now I understand the family broke up, Yes, well, there
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Speaker 1: was a lot of From what I understood, the parents
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Speaker 1: were an arranged marriage, and as the kids were getting older,
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Speaker 1: the mom was becoming a little more independent, is what
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Speaker 1: I gathered, and so eventually the mom moved out and
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Speaker 1: that was probably that probably happened the end of our
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Speaker 1: junior year, going into our senior year of high school.
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Speaker 1: When you say arranged marriage, what do you mean? From
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Speaker 1: my understanding, they didn't pick each other. I guess where
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Speaker 1: were they from? They were from Iraq or Iran, Iran, Iran,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Ran. They were from Iran and Nona was
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Speaker 1: in a product of an arranged marriage. That was my understanding. Yes, okay,
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Speaker 1: And what did Nona think about that or did she
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Speaker 1: just accept it as normal? She said that it as normal,
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Speaker 1: and from my understanding, we didn't really talk about her
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Speaker 1: family life very much. We talked more about our personal
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Speaker 1: lives going on and her relationships. But she, from my understanding,
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Speaker 1: everything was fine at home. They were as happy as
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Speaker 1: one can be, you know, like the few times I
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Speaker 1: went over for dinner, her mom made an amazing dinner,
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Speaker 1: and everything seemed normal inside them. But as she grew
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Speaker 1: up and started dating, that's when tormo, in my opinion,
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Speaker 1: started to happen in the family life. When the daughter
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Speaker 1: started grew up. What kind of turmoil surrounded Nona going out? Um,
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Speaker 1: they didn't want her dating. Her dad had strict rules
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Speaker 1: on that. And um, when they found out she was dating, um,
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Speaker 1: someone that was not of their culture, they were very upset.
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Speaker 1: And Um that's what Nona had told me that that's
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Speaker 1: why she had to keep her boyfriend's secret because her
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Speaker 1: parents would not be happy that he was Hispanic and UM,
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Speaker 1: so I kind of at the time helped her in
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Speaker 1: that aspect. Looking back at it now, I wish I
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Speaker 1: had understood it more. But yeah, she was always trying
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Speaker 1: to hide her boyfriend from them and would ask me
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Speaker 1: to give her rides to see him and things like that.
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Speaker 1: They wouldn't let her have a car because they didn't
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Speaker 1: want her to drive wherever she wanted to go. Um,
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Speaker 1: they would They had strict rules on her phone. They
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Speaker 1: would track a lot of stuff on her phone. UM
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Speaker 1: sometimes her when her dad would drop her off at work,
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Speaker 1: he would stay in the parking lot to make sure
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Speaker 1: she wasn't leading things like that. You said that their
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Speaker 1: mom ultimately left the dad, and I believe they moved
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Speaker 1: to an apartment near the high school where you attended. Yes,
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Speaker 1: joining me. Also in addition to Alison Jones, best friends
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Speaker 1: with Nona is Mashi mode Mashi, you were friends with Fatima. Well,
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Speaker 1: I was friends with Zore, which actually I was friends
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Speaker 1: with both of them. Ah, but Zore was my best friend.
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Speaker 1: The sister, and I should mention that the two sisters
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Speaker 1: made it two cousins. So those two guys were cousins.
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Speaker 1: The one did the uh you know, did the crime.
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Speaker 1: And and Zora's husband they were cousins. Well, that's what
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Speaker 1: that arrangement came. I was listening to Allison, and so
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Speaker 1: Zora and her husband they lived in US for four
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Speaker 1: years and then as these yasamana, he was living here too,
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Speaker 1: and then when he was ready to marry it, he
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Speaker 1: asked them if he you know, he can marry it
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Speaker 1: a nastrin fatima, you know. So that's how it started.
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Speaker 1: But I want to mention something here, Nancy. Yeah, the
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Speaker 1: reasons she moved out from the house and went to
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Speaker 1: the apartment because their house was going for full closure.
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Speaker 1: She didn't want that happened in front of her kids.
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Speaker 1: That's why she went to grape Wine to be closer
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Speaker 1: to their high school. When she moved, did she take
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Speaker 1: the husband with her, No, he didn't want to go.
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Speaker 1: He was he stay in the house. But she knew,
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Speaker 1: you know, pretty soon the house is gonna bank is
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Speaker 1: gonna take over, and she didn't want, you know, while
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Speaker 1: they are in the house, you know, somebody come and
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Speaker 1: tell them to move. So she did it for the
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Speaker 1: sake of her children. Did the children move with her, Yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: it was three of them. Yeah. And he would go
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Speaker 1: and visit them and so and I should say that,
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Speaker 1: I mean he loved her kids and these are his
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Speaker 1: blood children. Correct. Yes, yes, we were talking about I
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Speaker 1: see Bob Yazdepena stay behind in the home while his
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Speaker 1: wife and children moved to an apartment near the high school.
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Speaker 1: Now that is an unusual, uh decision, because there is
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Speaker 1: no way in he double eltor Bethany, if I have
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Speaker 1: strengthen my bones, that I would be separated from my children. Nancy,
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Speaker 1: you would never be separated from your children. But the
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Speaker 1: fact that the mother moved out in a protective stance
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Speaker 1: with the children to protect them from the realities of
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Speaker 1: the foreclosure, but the father stayed behind, begins to give
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Speaker 1: us insight into the father's personality. Somebody who's very stubborn
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Speaker 1: for having somebody who is not dealing in reality, somebody
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Speaker 1: who's willing to be separated from his children, and somebody
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Speaker 1: who maybe even is beginning to become destabilized in some
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Speaker 1: way by the unraveling finances and the unraveling family ties.
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Speaker 1: I would wonder how well this guy was psychologically? Who
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Speaker 1: was he how to be functioned in this family life?
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Speaker 1: You know, what was the precursor to staying in a
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Speaker 1: home that's going to be basically we taken out from
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Speaker 1: under him. Let's go back to Mashi. Mashi tell me
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Speaker 1: about him, as his Bob tell me about his personality. Well,
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Speaker 1: he really loved his kids and family. When his finances
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Speaker 1: was okay, he had his own business and everything. And
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Speaker 1: after September eleventh, it went down, you know, his business
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Speaker 1: went down, and then he just became a different person.
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Speaker 1: What was his business? He had in mortgage business, you know,
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Speaker 1: home improvement business. You know, he was involved in so
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Speaker 1: many of them. And then and he was making good money,
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Speaker 1: so he told his wife not to work. She was
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Speaker 1: working as a nail artists and in one of their spa,
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Speaker 1: and so she listened to him because he was bringing
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Speaker 1: good money and he was providing them good so she
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Speaker 1: didn't work. And then after the business his business wasn't
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Speaker 1: doing good, she had to. I mean they really financially
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Speaker 1: they were hurting. So she had to go back to work.
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Speaker 1: And he didn't like that, and but she had to
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Speaker 1: provide for her kids. You know, I hear trouble or
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Speaker 1: brewing in this in this case crime stories with Nancy Grace,
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Speaker 1: you have in this case a family that is torn
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Speaker 1: apart for many different reasons. But we hear that it
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Speaker 1: all starts with a financial problem. When Isaia bob Yazdepanas
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Speaker 1: business fails. Back to Mashi, Mashi, why did his business fail?
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Speaker 1: It's a mortgage business is there in Grapevine, far away
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Speaker 1: from where n'e on one happened. So why did his
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Speaker 1: business fail? Well, it was after sept similar eleven, Nancy, right,
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Speaker 1: you know, so, yeah, things weren't good. So he just
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Speaker 1: for five six years he didn't really work before they happened.
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Speaker 1: He didn't really work. He wasn't really willing to work.
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Speaker 1: And that's what Yea and her family, they were helping
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Speaker 1: their you know, she was helping her sister because she
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Speaker 1: knew she had two kids, and as Jez wasn't really
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Speaker 1: willing to work. And so I don't know, I feel
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Speaker 1: like something happened to him in his mind because he
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Speaker 1: didn't want anybody's help. And one of their big issue
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Speaker 1: was they really didn't want to discuss it. They didn't
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Speaker 1: want to get any hair with professional and you know,
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Speaker 1: to just find them away and they keep everything to themselves.
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Speaker 1: And I mean later on when we find out how
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Speaker 1: you know, they really had the difficulties, financial difficulties, we
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Speaker 1: were all upset because we could help them. You know,
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Speaker 1: that's an interesting point. Let me go back to Alison Jones,
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Speaker 1: best friends with Nona. Did Nona ever let on or
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Speaker 1: did she even know that they were in financial trouble? No,
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Speaker 1: she never had. She never told me anything about that.
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Speaker 1: I mean We ate Chick fil A for breakfast every morning,
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Speaker 1: and she paid just fine every morning. She never said
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Speaker 1: anything like that. She did work, and she worked a lot.
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Speaker 1: Where did she work when we first She worked at
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Speaker 1: at a gelato place at first, and then she ended
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Speaker 1: up working at Sam's Club, And I think she was
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Speaker 1: working like a liverizing wireless department at Sam's Club. We
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Speaker 1: both had co op together in high school, where you
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Speaker 1: have early release to go to work, and she worked
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Speaker 1: really hard at sam. You know, I want to go
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Speaker 1: back to Captain Todd Deering joined me Captain Criminal Investigations.
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Speaker 1: They're in grape Vine with the PD. Captain Deering, have
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Speaker 1: you ever heard the phrase the idol mind is the
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Speaker 1: devil's workshop. I heard that from my grandmother ever since
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Speaker 1: I grew up, and I can remember one time my
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Speaker 1: husband was between a job. He had two weeks until
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Speaker 1: he started his new job. Every day we were a
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Speaker 1: long distance I was in New York, Houston, Atlanta. Every day,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you doing today? Because I really
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Speaker 1: believe when you're sitting around you get into trouble. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I've heard that phrase before. My grandmother used to say,
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Speaker 1: you're using the same thing with idle hands instead of
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Speaker 1: idle yes, the Devil's workshop because you're not your mind
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Speaker 1: isn't busy. How many times, Captain, have you seen violency
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Speaker 1: erupt because everybody's sitting around the house all day playing
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Speaker 1: video games and watching TV. You know, familiarity, breeze contempt there.
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Speaker 1: We've had plenty of case with those over the years
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Speaker 1: where people you are together too much and therefore domestics
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Speaker 1: do erupt from things like that. Guys, I want to
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Speaker 1: go to Leavipage Crime online dot com investigative reporter. So
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Speaker 1: what do we know up to this nine one one
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Speaker 1: call where we think it's a crime victim calling in? Yeah, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: So this is in Grapevine, Texas. The suburb situated between
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Speaker 1: Dallas and Fort Worth and this call came in at
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Speaker 1: eleven thirty a m. And then the dispatcher sent police
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Speaker 1: officers to the apartment complex. It was the Lincoln Vineyards
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Speaker 1: Apartment Complex, Nancy, and that's where this family was living in.
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Speaker 1: Just to shine a little more white on why they
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Speaker 1: moved to this apartment complex. So the father of ZZ
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Speaker 1: was living in their home and the electricity had been
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Speaker 1: shut off, there was no running water, and it was
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Speaker 1: about to be foreclosed on. He was in financial trouble.
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Speaker 1: They were living in this apartment complex, and apparently he
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Speaker 1: was not welcome there because, according to friends of the family,
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Speaker 1: he would travel and invite prostitutes to his hotel room.
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Speaker 1: So there was a lot of animize. Okay, wait wait
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Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait. So the man wouldn't work
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Speaker 1: to pay the house note, but he could afford hookers.
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Speaker 1: Did I just hear this? It was his wife was
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Speaker 1: working two jobs. Wait, what was that Mashy jumping in?
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Speaker 1: What did you say, Mashy one? I mean he was
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Speaker 1: sending this stuff, his furniture and Persian rugs and stuff
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Speaker 1: like that, selling their study. Well, you know, I would
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Speaker 1: think you'd put that on the house note or pay
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Speaker 1: the electricity or the water bill so your children would
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Speaker 1: have a home, not on high priced hookers. I did
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Speaker 1: not see that curveball coming. Yes, did the wife know, Mashi, Well,
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Speaker 1: she was living an apartment and she bought everything for
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Speaker 1: with help of her sister. She bought the furniture and everything,
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Speaker 1: just basic things for the apartment, and then she left
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Speaker 1: everything there. She didn't really want to take anything because
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Speaker 1: she didn't want to make him angry. So he starts
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Speaker 1: selling Persian Rocks furniture. So well, let me understand something. Okay,
24:26
Speaker 1: hold on, okay, doctor beth anymore, and don't worry, just Scott,
24:30
Speaker 1: I'm getting to you. Hold on, doctor bethany If David
24:34
Speaker 1: has something that I want, I just take it. I
24:38
Speaker 1: don't even think about it. And if he dares to
24:40
Speaker 1: say where is my ex? I say I gave birth. Okay,
24:44
Speaker 1: that ends it right there. So do you hear this
24:48
Speaker 1: lady was afraid to take a rug or a chair
24:54
Speaker 1: or anything from the home. And she's the one that
24:57
Speaker 1: the children are going to live with her in an
24:59
Speaker 1: apartment near the high school, so no I could get
25:03
Speaker 1: back and forth to high school better. And she was
25:06
Speaker 1: worried about taking a rug or a bed or a chair.
25:11
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd sleep on the floor, but I'd want
25:14
Speaker 1: my twins to have a bed. Nancy. I'm hearing a
25:18
Speaker 1: perfect storm of bad personality characteristics on the part of
25:23
Speaker 1: this so called dad and husband. He's staying in a
25:28
Speaker 1: house that's about to be foreclosed upon. He doesn't allow
25:32
Speaker 1: his wife or children to take any of their furniture
25:36
Speaker 1: so that they can re establish themselves independently. This guy
25:40
Speaker 1: thinks that he can control everything. He can control the bank,
25:44
Speaker 1: he can control the mortgage company, he can control the
25:47
Speaker 1: police when they come knock on his door. He can
25:49
Speaker 1: control his wife by depriving her of the things she
25:54
Speaker 1: needs to live freely and independently from him. So when
25:59
Speaker 1: somebody else, so when somebody like this guy loses control,
26:04
Speaker 1: it's not pretty, Nancy, No, it's not. Take a listen
26:08
Speaker 1: to Amber Fisher at NaCN. We made repeated attempts to
26:13
Speaker 1: try to get ahold of somebody. No one responded. We
26:15
Speaker 1: made entry into the apartment and discovered seven victims inside
26:21
Speaker 1: the apartment, all deceased. The bodies of four females and
26:24
Speaker 1: three males were found in the kitchen, appearing to have
26:27
Speaker 1: died from gunshot wounds. It looks like, you know, all
26:31
Speaker 1: relatives of each other, you know, probably hearing to celebrate Christmas.
26:35
Speaker 1: Police found two guns inside the apartment. Two guns inside
26:39
Speaker 1: the apartment, mass shooting seven victims. Straight out to Captain
26:46
Speaker 1: Todd deering what happened that day, Captain? Once our officers arrived,
26:52
Speaker 1: like I said that, like you could hear in the
26:54
Speaker 1: recording that they knocked on the door, tried to get
26:58
Speaker 1: someone of them to the door. Obviously, when they could
27:00
Speaker 1: get it, they started looking around the perimeter. It's a
27:02
Speaker 1: it was a ground it was a ground floor apartment.
27:05
Speaker 1: It had an upstairs. There's a stairwell inside of the
27:07
Speaker 1: apartments and bedrooms upstairs. And they peaked in the window
27:11
Speaker 1: to see if there was anything going on inside, and
27:14
Speaker 1: through the crack of the window they could see individuals
27:17
Speaker 1: deceased in various places within the ground floor of the
27:20
Speaker 1: apartment right there. So intrew was forced. They secured the
27:26
Speaker 1: scene and then called out investigators and crime scene investigators
27:29
Speaker 1: to start work in the case. Captain did you see
27:32
Speaker 1: the crime scene? Yes, I was there. I was there
27:35
Speaker 1: all day, you know, Captain Deering. I've seen a lot
27:38
Speaker 1: of homicide scenes, but I've never seen seven dead bodies
27:44
Speaker 1: on Christmas. At Christmas it was definitely a first for
27:48
Speaker 1: us too. We've never had a situation or an event
27:51
Speaker 1: with that many people deceased in one place before or
27:56
Speaker 1: end since, and then of course Christmas Day made it
28:00
Speaker 1: icularly remember memorable for us over the years. It stands
28:05
Speaker 1: out on everybody's memory of anybody who was there. Crime
28:21
Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace, guys, we were talking about Christmas
28:29
Speaker 1: anger resentment boiling over on Christmas Day at a family gathering,
28:35
Speaker 1: leaving seven dead people on the floor around that Christmas tree.
28:40
Speaker 1: Take a listen to Ben Russell, MSNBC. There is no
28:44
Speaker 1: known motive, at least this one that police are telling
28:47
Speaker 1: us about. There is also no outward sign of the
28:50
Speaker 1: horrible tragedy that unplayed right through this sliding glass and
28:54
Speaker 1: door frame here of this apartment complex in Grapevine again
28:58
Speaker 1: and you described as a suburb before Worth and Dallas
29:01
Speaker 1: here in Greater North Texas. Here is what we do
29:04
Speaker 1: know at this point. No one heard any of the
29:06
Speaker 1: gun shots that were fired inside of this home. Someone
29:09
Speaker 1: from inside of the home called nine one around eleven
29:12
Speaker 1: thirty yesterday morning, but that person did not speak into
29:15
Speaker 1: the farm. An operator then sent police, grape Fine, Texas
29:19
Speaker 1: Police here to this scene to go and investigate, and
29:22
Speaker 1: they found the scene that we've been talking about now.
29:24
Speaker 1: We also have information that the suspected shooter in this case,
29:28
Speaker 1: a middle aged man, may have been dressed as Santa Claus,
29:31
Speaker 1: though grape Fine Police have not confirmed that information for
29:34
Speaker 1: us at this point this morning. The seven victims are
29:36
Speaker 1: all reportedly related. Again, four women and three men between
29:39
Speaker 1: the ages of fifteen and fifty eight years old. They
29:43
Speaker 1: were all found inside of this apartment, though we're told
29:45
Speaker 1: not all of them lived here at this apartment. Alison,
29:49
Speaker 1: when did you find out that your little best friend
29:53
Speaker 1: and junior senior high was murdered by her dad dressed
29:58
Speaker 1: as Santa? Well, what shortly after eleven thirty, so it's probably,
30:04
Speaker 1: I don't know, eleven forty five noon around then. We
30:08
Speaker 1: were having Christmas at our house and all of a
30:10
Speaker 1: sudden we look outside and there's several police cars in
30:13
Speaker 1: front of our house. They were parking, you know, a
30:16
Speaker 1: few houses down from where the dad had been squatting.
30:20
Speaker 1: And so we went outside and the police officers said
30:26
Speaker 1: that that their house there seven people were murdered and
30:31
Speaker 1: it was in connection with that house. And the first
30:34
Speaker 1: thing I said was I know who exactly those seven
30:36
Speaker 1: people are? And I said Nona and her brother Ali,
30:41
Speaker 1: and her mom and her dad and her aunt and
30:43
Speaker 1: her uncle and her cousin. And that's kind of how
30:47
Speaker 1: it all unfolded for me. Two, Mashie mus Dahi, tell
30:53
Speaker 1: me when you learned about your best friends death On
30:59
Speaker 1: the night before Zore and her husband they had a ranch,
31:05
Speaker 1: and so we for Christmas Eve, we had like seventy
31:09
Speaker 1: five people. We're you know, friends. We were gathering and
31:13
Speaker 1: celebrating the Christmas and at twenty o'clock, Nona came to
31:19
Speaker 1: me and she said, and Mashi, my daddy just text
31:22
Speaker 1: me and he said he has a surprise for me
31:26
Speaker 1: in the morning. And I said, oh, maybe he's going
31:29
Speaker 1: to give you a call. Because she just graduated from
31:32
Speaker 1: my high school, and so she was kind of excited
31:35
Speaker 1: to see what the surprise was. And then when I heard, oh,
31:42
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, I just I just couldn't believe it.
31:46
Speaker 1: You know, it was we were older. We just couldn't
31:49
Speaker 1: believe that happened. The next day when we find out,
31:53
Speaker 1: it was just horrible. I steel. I mean, when Christmas
31:57
Speaker 1: time comes, it's for me to celebrate because I just
32:02
Speaker 1: think about this family. There were wonderful people. I mean,
32:06
Speaker 1: Zori and her husband. If you people live in Dallas,
32:10
Speaker 1: if you ask them, how do you think about them?
32:12
Speaker 1: They were just always helping people. There were wonderful, wonderful people.
32:18
Speaker 1: And her sister was such a peacemaker. That's why, you know,
32:23
Speaker 1: back to that stuff, I said, you know, the furniture
32:26
Speaker 1: and everything. She didn't really want to make as he
32:29
Speaker 1: is angry, so she just her with help of her sister,
32:33
Speaker 1: she decided to just buy the basic things for her apartment.
32:36
Speaker 1: She was a very quiet, very super kind lady. She
32:40
Speaker 1: never you know, she was a peacemaker. She just didn't
32:44
Speaker 1: want to anything happened to her kids, her family. She
32:48
Speaker 1: was really a wonderful mom and always protecting her kids
32:55
Speaker 1: and everything. So when he says her coming out of
32:59
Speaker 1: this arranged marriage, even though he's not working, he's hiring
33:05
Speaker 1: prostitutes by selling their rugs and their furniture, he can't
33:10
Speaker 1: stand that she is making a new life for herself
33:15
Speaker 1: all on her own. Is that what you think happened?
33:20
Speaker 1: Mash Well, she really she never really went for divorce.
33:25
Speaker 1: She never went to an attorney, you know, because she
33:29
Speaker 1: just thought if she just moved out, you know, her
33:32
Speaker 1: kid's going to be more safer and everything. And so
33:38
Speaker 1: he really did never got divorced or anything. So it
33:41
Speaker 1: wasn't like her excess one. It was, you know, they
33:43
Speaker 1: were still married and everything too. Joseph Scott Morgan joining us,
33:48
Speaker 1: Joe Scott, you know we hear that night one call.
33:52
Speaker 1: We think it's a victim inside the home, it's not,
33:55
Speaker 1: it's the shooter. Yeah, that makes it all the more striking,
34:00
Speaker 1: particularly compared to when you now retrospectively, when you look
34:04
Speaker 1: back and see what he had perpetrated and what he
34:09
Speaker 1: had borne witness to. You know, there's no there's very
34:14
Speaker 1: very hard to kind of understand where his mind was.
34:17
Speaker 1: But you know, when the police showed up at the scene.
34:21
Speaker 1: I've been on many mass shootings over the course of
34:25
Speaker 1: my career in New Orleans and Atlanta, and I can
34:27
Speaker 1: tell you that the horror that he saw the police
34:33
Speaker 1: it's amplified for them because you know, you talk about
34:36
Speaker 1: the concentration of bodies that they have. First off, they
34:38
Speaker 1: don't know who anybody is when you walk in to
34:41
Speaker 1: an environment like this, and this is an absolute trust me,
34:44
Speaker 1: this is an absolute bloodbat. Nobody has. You know, you
34:48
Speaker 1: think about a lady might be carrying a pocketbook, a purse,
34:52
Speaker 1: a man might be carrying a wallet. Everybody's guards down
34:55
Speaker 1: at this point. You don't you have no idea how
34:59
Speaker 1: to identify these people. And then you go to this
35:01
Speaker 1: point of how do we process the scene one by one?
35:06
Speaker 1: And all the while this is all unfolding before you,
35:10
Speaker 1: because you don't know where this guy is to begin with.
35:12
Speaker 1: At this point, when you're out on scene, you're the
35:14
Speaker 1: point of contact relative to this. So you're having to
35:17
Speaker 1: work this case as if it's going to be prosecutable,
35:21
Speaker 1: and that this person is in the still out there
35:25
Speaker 1: somewhere and he might be perpetrating. Again, you've got someone
35:30
Speaker 1: that is inclined to take the lives of all of
35:34
Speaker 1: these people in a very very small space. And they say,
35:37
Speaker 1: we're talking about an apartment. Okay, well, it's not like
35:39
Speaker 1: a mansion or something, and so it just it doubles
35:43
Speaker 1: down on this idea of terror and particularly a Christmas time.
35:48
Speaker 1: And I can understand why the captain specifically mentioned this,
35:52
Speaker 1: particularly in grape Vine, that this is going to haunt
35:54
Speaker 1: them for years and years to come, and every individual
35:57
Speaker 1: is out on that scene will remember this forever. Back
36:00
Speaker 1: out to Captain Todd Daring, what do you remember what
36:05
Speaker 1: went through your mind when you went into that scene.
36:09
Speaker 1: One of the things that and one of the points
36:11
Speaker 1: that we've always had over the years is that it
36:13
Speaker 1: particularly wasn't a gruesome scene. It was just a you know,
36:16
Speaker 1: a mass casualty scene, which was impactful on everybody there.
36:21
Speaker 1: Most of us hadn't ever seen that many people, and
36:23
Speaker 1: you know, of course in that small, small amount of space,
36:27
Speaker 1: we did have a few officers over time that you know,
36:30
Speaker 1: sought help because it was, you know, it was fairly
36:32
Speaker 1: significant point in their careers, especially the younger ones that
36:37
Speaker 1: had just started had been with the police department for
36:40
Speaker 1: just a couple of years, and so this was all
36:42
Speaker 1: brand new to them. You know at that time. I've
36:45
Speaker 1: been you know, in law enforcement twenty years and you know,
36:49
Speaker 1: learned how to deal with these kind of things. But
36:51
Speaker 1: some of our newer people actually had difficulties with that,
36:53
Speaker 1: and so you know, got them help over the years
36:56
Speaker 1: to get through those kind of things, because it does
36:57
Speaker 1: make an impact on the police officers who are working
37:00
Speaker 1: the scenes too, especially on a holiday like that we
37:03
Speaker 1: were most of us were home with our families and
37:06
Speaker 1: we had to leave our families to go to something
37:08
Speaker 1: like this. So Alison, when you look back on that
37:12
Speaker 1: Christmas Day and your friendship with Nona, what do you think,
37:18
Speaker 1: what do you feel? It's hard to put into words.
37:23
Speaker 1: I definitely had affected my Christmases ever since because I
37:27
Speaker 1: think about her a little bit more at every Christmas
37:30
Speaker 1: since then. My parents, you know, they still lived three
37:33
Speaker 1: houses down from her house for a long time. They
37:36
Speaker 1: just moved out last year from that neighborhood, and so
37:40
Speaker 1: every Christmas morning I'd have to drive by her dad's
37:42
Speaker 1: old house. And for a long time they no one,
37:47
Speaker 1: the banks, never sold. It took a while for them
37:51
Speaker 1: to even come and fix it up, and so it
37:52
Speaker 1: just sat there as kind of a sore thumb in
37:55
Speaker 1: the neighborhood and as a reminder every day of what happened.
38:00
Speaker 1: So it definitely brings a lot of sadness. I know,
38:05
Speaker 1: if she was so seriously be doing big things. Two mashi,
38:10
Speaker 1: how has the death of your friends affected you? Affected
38:17
Speaker 1: all the friends, all the people they knew them. It's
38:22
Speaker 1: just not me, Nancy, I mean it's I just cannot
38:27
Speaker 1: tell you how wonderful they were. You know her and
38:32
Speaker 1: known as cousin Sarah. She was going to medical school.
38:37
Speaker 1: She was a young kid with a lot of dreams
38:40
Speaker 1: and everything. I mean, that was unfair to her, that
38:43
Speaker 1: was unfair to her brother, that was unfair to all
38:46
Speaker 1: the family. He could have just killed himself. The levels
38:51
Speaker 1: here of promising the daughter a surprise the next morning
38:56
Speaker 1: she thinks it's a car. It's two guns firing, showing
39:00
Speaker 1: up in a Santa suit. After everything he had put
39:04
Speaker 1: the family through, all of this culminating on Christmas Day.
39:11
Speaker 1: If you or any one are suffering at this time
39:17
Speaker 1: of the year, please dial toll free eight hundred two
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