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Rise of the Left | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas · DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

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  Good morning. It's Friday, October 23rd, 2026.
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  Thank you for joining the program with Ted Rall
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  and Jamarl Thomas. Jamarl, I'm going to overload
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  us. We have so much news to talk about today.
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  The main story is the rise of the left. We've
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  been covering the protests in France, and we
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  mentioned Albania, but we're going to focus more
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  on Albania today, which is where you spent time.
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  The protests have gotten very, very spicy there,
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  as well as in Italy. Basically, it's all of Western
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  Europe now, except for maybe Germany. But hey,
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  that cannot be far behind. A lot of this has
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  to do with Jared Kushner and his connection to
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  Albania. Jared Kushner is fighting off a Vanity
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  Fair book excerpt that basically reveals that
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  he's, well, the claims, I should say, that he's
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  been money laundering and leveraging. Up to $1
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  .75 billion in cash through the UAE and Qatar
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  and Saudi Arabia. Secret accounts in 2018 that
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  were used basically for influence peddling with
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  his father-in-law, President Trump. Under normal
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  circumstances, this would be very serious shit.
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  But in the Middle East, lots going on. The West
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  Bank is on total lockdown right now, following
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  the killing of two Israeli soldiers. The initial
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  report said that five had been wounded. At least
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  two have subsequently died. Two Palestinians
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  have been shot by the IDF as well. Of course,
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  it's not lost on us that the election in Israel
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  is Tuesday, just days from now. All non-emergency
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  personnel and families have been ordered by the
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  United States to leave Saudi Arabia because they
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  can't keep them safe from Houthi attacks. Also
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  related to the Middle East war, Peter Thiel,
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  a big Trump ally, privately told fellow investors
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  and politicos we should not have invaded Iran
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  and that it was a mistake. A lot of Ilhan Omar
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  news, some of it is specific to right-wing media,
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  claiming that their federal documents prove that
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  she changed her name and that the name that she
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  was sworn in under to Congress is not her actual name.
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  Meanwhile, she said that
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  the raid means that effectively she's been doxxed
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  and she has to leave her home, otherwise her
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  family is not safe. The Trump and Vance are using
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  disaster aid to places like North Carolina and
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  saying, if you don't vote Republican and Republicans
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  don't win, we will not give you disaster aid.
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  Pretty creepy, actually. It's anti-American.
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  It's not creepy. It's anti-American. It's unethical.
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  It is anti-American. Nearly all shallow coral
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  reefs in the world basically are toast and will
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  be gone by the year 2075. There's a related story
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  here. Basically, the MAHA-Trump alliance we
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  should talk about a little bit is fracturing,
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  and I think this is an interesting story for
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  us. And finally, but most amusingly, former El
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  Paso GOP chairman is mad at Sacha Baron Cohen
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  and threatening to sue him, calling him a liar
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  and a pervert after the comedian basically tricked
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  him into appearing in his new Ali G movie, which
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  sounds awesome. So even though Sacha Baron Cohen
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  is a Zionist, I might be going to see that. I'm
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  curious what that skit is where he leaves that
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  thing and calls him a pervert. Oh, I'll tell
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  you. I have all the details on that. Okay. That's
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  pretty specific, right? He is very specific.
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  As a pervert. A liar and a pervert. I'm like, well, it's Sacha Baron Cohen. What were
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  you thinking? I don't
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  know how Sacha Baron Cohen can still pretend
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  to be someone else at this point and have anybody
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  not know who he is. Yeah, he's an international
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  star. It's actually unbelievable. I love
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  that word. The word is hilarious. Perverse. It
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  makes me laugh every time I hear it. Yeah, it's
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  a great word. It's what it means. And it's like
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  when it's being applied to somebody, it's like,
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  okay, how is this being applied? What happened?
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  Totally. You didn't say anything about the Witkoff
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  meeting in Moscow. Oh, well, we can do that too.
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  As it is, I probably should
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  have cut two of those stories out. But
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  we have two full hours. Just a reminder, everyone,
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  we do go today. It's Friday. So we do Q&A most
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  is the focus in the second hour. But really,
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  truly, we've kind of drifted away from that.
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  We're just sort of we take your questions anytime.
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  So please post your questions in the live chat
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  if you're watching between 9 and 11 a.m. on
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  YouTube or Rumble. Please like, follow and share.
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  Please subscribe. All that stuff and we will
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  talk about anything and everyone that you want
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  to talk about. Okay, I think that's about it. Okay,
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  what should we do first? You want to
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  do Witkoff? Well, we are. It's in the very beginning
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  so I would imagine the audience is flooding in
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  so the story that intrigues me the most even
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  though it matters the less, let's hit that one
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  first. The pervert. All right, the pervert. What
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  the hell happened for him to say this? All right,
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  let me pull up that story because it is hilarious.
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  And you've seen him play these characters and
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  these roles. And as you point out, he's an arch
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  -Zionist. He's a hardcore Zionist. So
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  when he's playing Muslim characters or something
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  like that, he's mocking. So the catch
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  becomes, okay, well, what in the world did he
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  do? He mocks everybody. He's an equal opportunity
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  mocker. He's a mocker. He'd be a mocker. So here
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  we go. The black baby. Something about the black
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  baby and the black women were sitting around
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  horrified by the stuff that he was saying because
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  he was holding onto the baby. It should be pointed
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  out, by the way, I always like to give credit
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  where it's due, that in the original Ali G show,
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  where he pretended to be this really horrifically
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  stupid British white rapper with a TV show, kind
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  of like a proto-podcast kind of thing. Donald
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  Trump was one of the guys who got it, right?
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  Right away. Oh, really? Yeah, Donald Trump
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  listens. He's like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And
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  then he's like, okay, gentlemen, thank you so
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  much for coming. It's been great to meet you.
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  And he just gets up and walks off. Well, a kind
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  man knows a kind man. That's exactly what it
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  is. Oh, I know what you're doing. Yeah, I know.
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  Oh, I know this. All right. So here it is. He's
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  the, this guy, his name is Michael Abood. Okay.
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  He's the chairman of the El Paso County Republican
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  Party. Okay. So in the movie. Give me one second.
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  Okay. I'm listening. Okay. All right. I'll just
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  read it. Okay. In the movie, Michael Abood is
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  shown taking part in a training program with
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  another character that Sacha Baron Cohen comes
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  up with, ex-Mossad terrorist expert Colonel
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  Erad Morad, who instructs Abood and other MAGA
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  sympathizers in self-defense techniques, including
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  the wearing over clothes of protective plastic
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  buttocks. He also schools them in how to fire
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  bullets from the middle of these plastic buttocks
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  by the repeated up and down manipulation of a
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  rubber penis. A hood and a fellow student. Did
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  you say a rubber buttocks over top? Yeah, this
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  is plastic buttocks, and manipulated by the up
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  and down movement of a rubber penis. Can you
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  imagine when Sacha Baron Cohen's staff went
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  to a company and was like, hey, so this is what
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  we need you to design. So Abood and a fellow
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  student, former preacher and... would-be actor
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  Joshua Loudermilk, are then recruited by Morad
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  to help in a mission to prevent the birth in
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  the U.S. of the baby of a fictional South American
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  drug kingpin. Abood and Loudermilk abduct his
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  heavily pregnant girlfriend and drive her in
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  a fake ambulance to a remote, unstaffed medical
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  facility where she gives birth to a lifelike
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  prosthetic. They then abandon her, Morad having
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  placed her live baby in a zipped bag, and drive
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  with it toward Mexico. Loudermilk is later seen
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  attempting to discharge fire from his fake buttocks,
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  while Abood takes the decision to drop the baby,
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  at that point being dangled from a drone at a
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  substantial height to the ground to prevent it
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  touching U.S. soil. The actions could not be
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  anything other than extremely serious for a real
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  infant. Contacted Abood, the businessman was unaware
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  of his participation in anything other than what
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  he believed to be a non-fiction film. In a statement
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  Abood called Baron Cohen and his entire film crew
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  a bunch of liars who deceive people to benefit
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  themselves. They claimed that this would be a
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  documentary about the illegals crossing the border.
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  Then they said they were adding in this self
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  -defense guy from Israel. He said it is my opinion
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  that is a pervert. Plus, he talked about how
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  Muslims are all gay because they follow the sex
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  practices of Muhammad. No one should spend one
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  penny watching anything he produces or appears
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  in. I plan to sue him. Pressed on whether he
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  stands by his actions in the film, Abood declined
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  to comment. He said that the film repeatedly
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  stresses that neither Abood nor Loudermilk are
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  in on it. Loudermilk has not responded to requests
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  for comment. But his social media feed suggests
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  a level of understanding about the project not
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  shared by most of his fellow participants. Earlier
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  in the week, he posted on Facebook, I got to
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  spend 12 hours one-on-one with Sacha. He taught
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  me so much about the fun of making others laugh,
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  as well as a link to the promo for the film saying,
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  I'm in the trailer. Abood's shock at his involvement
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  is surprising given that he, along with Loudermilk,
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  features in the second trailer for the film,
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  which was released about two weeks ago. That
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  clip alone contains considerable clues to those
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  involved that all is not what it seems. It is
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  addressed to... Pardon? We have the clip? Let's
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  see. Yeah, we do have the clip. Let me... Okay,
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  let me... By the way, the movie is called...
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  The movie is called Ali G. Who is I? Who is I?
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  So how will this work with the YouTube gods in
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  there? It's actually a YouTube video. It's a
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  film trailer, so there's no copyright.
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  Okay. Because that's insane. Wait a minute.
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  Just before you play, that is insane. And the
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  Republicans. Loudermilk. Oh, I know. Was involved
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  in this. And then I love the fact that they were
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  like, oh, by the way, this is Israeli training.
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  Now, Krav Maga, right? It's like, this is a new
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  style of Krav Maga. Now, they would accept it
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  because it's Israeli training, which I suspect
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  is why he said it. Because if he would have said,
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  this is a new style of martial arts, nobody
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  would have done that. So, Krav Maga. All right.
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  Let me make this. There we go. Okay. All right.
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  Here we go. Off to the races. Kazakh Film Commission
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  and Kazakh Department of Language have grave
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  warning about new Ali G movie film from dastardly
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  Sacha Cohen. There have been reportings that
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  this film is racist. We have seen it, and sadly
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  it is not. Cohen have made this documentary by
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  infiltrating American society undiscovered for
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  past two years. How did he do this? By shape
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  -shifting, of course, into three different devils.
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  First, Ali G, a white nincompoop who steal
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  mannerisms from the popular music genre, hippity
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  hops. Do you know where the do-rag originated
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  from? China. No, it's not. That's what it said
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  inside. Second, as a member of a terrorist hate
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  group called liberals. Ali G has to be stopped.
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  Why? Because he is a cultural appropriator. Don't
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  care. He uses the word panani. Excuse me? It's
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  pronounced panani. He has stolen your word. He
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  has taken your panani and put it in his mouth.
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  Third, this Jew has turned into another Jew with
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  muscles almost as big as my wife. My name, Colonel
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  Iran Morad. Do not be fooled. These immigrants
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  are not coming here to mow your lawn, trim your
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  trees, rake your leaves, clean your house, care
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  for your babies, bus your tables, wash your cars,
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  paint your houses, build your fences, install
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  your roofs, drywall plumbing or electric. They
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  are coming to kill you. Oh, yeah, man. Kazakhstan
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  very angry by this movie film and will not show
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  it in either of our two cinemas. We ask you please
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  for the sake of distance and humanity join in
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  our boycott. We urge you do not watch this movie
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  film in the cinemas on October 27th. Jinkley. Oh,
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  that's hilarious. That's hilarious. So it was in
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  the karate scene. Well, he was like a Krav Maga
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  teacher. That's what he... Yeah. Show the buttocks
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  and the penis. And the Republicans are out there
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  using the penis to manipulate the buttocks. Oh,
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  that's hilarious. It's a lot. Wait, it's Loudermilk
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  about doing that? Like, it's the congressman.
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  Yeah. So now let's see him do Israel. Let's let
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  him go to Israel and start making fun about people
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  wanting to come in and do the right of return.
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  Or let's let him go to Israel and start doing
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  this kind of baiting stuff he does. This guy
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  is a... He is a wholly owned Zionist. Yes, he
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  is. Who is 100% propped up by the Israeli government.
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  We know he is. He's testified in front of the
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  Knesset and all this other crap. The guy's a
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  complete troll. If there is a Jew on this planet
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  and he's going to be thrown down a well, it's
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  that fucking guy. Right there. He can burn in
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  hell. He is a Zionist. You're right. He's a Zionist.
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  He's like every dick on the planet. Every single
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  one. Fuck him. Come on, Rob. We've got
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  to give him credit where credit's due. That shit's
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  funny. And you got Republican Congress members.
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  It's not funny at all. It is great.
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  That by itself is hilarious. JT, I'm the one
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  that's on this show who's always accused of being
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  a racist. And here I am going after an honest
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  -to-God true racist. My wife's over here looking
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  at me saying, stop cussing at this guy. No, seriously,
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  this guy, if there was ever an abortion I could
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  get behind. It's Sacha Baron. That guy is an
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  evil sack of crap. It's like on constant pain.
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  It's like the devil. This is the one soul I'm
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  willing to... This is the one right there.
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  You're like, no, no. If I had access to
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  the one ring for just one hour and I
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  have it, maybe I'll take it away from Frodo. I would
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  use it to eradicate that soul from the earth.
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  No, seriously. That dude, he wraps up his racism
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  as comedy so that we good leftists will go and
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  start laughing at it and making a joke. What
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  he's doing is making fun of the people who are
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  ignorant, who are poor, just to elevate his particular
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  brand of racism in the form of comedy. Explain
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  to me the difference in what this cuck, this
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  asshole has done that's different from whiteface.
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  Well, nothing at all. Fuck him. The Israeli,
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  the mocking, the Krav Maga thing and the mocking
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  the Republican Congress member, that's not poor.
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  He's going after Congress or at the very least
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  members of Congress. And even the people that
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  were in that group, they weren't necessarily
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  poor and ignorant. They were. They didn't look
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  poor. They didn't look poor. They looked normal.
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  They didn't look poor and ignorant. They were
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  just like black people who was like, what the
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  fuck are you talking about? Then go to Israel.
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  Fantastic. Fantastic. And he's like, yeah, the
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  do-rag came from China. He says it in the thing.
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  He's not making fun of her, right? He's making
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  fun of everyone who's not a member of the tribe.
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  And people are paying money to do it. Okay, so
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  have you seen any of his movies? I saw Borat
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  where he was going through all these little towns
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  just out in the middle of nowhere. People who
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  work nine to five, blue collar, you're Bush Light
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  drinkers. And then he goes out of his way to
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  make them look like the most ravenous anti-Semites
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  on the planet because he's tricking them and
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  he's enriching himself to do it. And then he
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  goes to Israel and he pokes his stuff up and
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  says, look at the global anti-Semitism hatred
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  against global Jewry. Sorry, this guy is a complete
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  con artist and a tool. There's nothing funny
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  about what he's doing. Well, he's definitely
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  a con artist. And the fact that the two lefties
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  here are giggling over what this overgrown embryo
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  is doing. I'm laughing out loud. I'm losing
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  it. I'm crying. It's funny. This guy should be
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  thrown out of a well and never allowed out. Look,
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  when David Chappelle is making jokes, right?
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  David Chappelle hits everybody. And yet you would
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  get the trans community that is screaming bloody
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  murder at him that he's anti or he's transphobic.
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  But David Chappelle started his career making
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  jokes mostly about blacks. True. He's equal
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  opportunity. I'm not saying that he is. I agree
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  with you. David Chappelle doesn't support a genocide
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  that we're paying for. Okay, but the thing is,
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  Robby, Seinfeld is also, Jerry Seinfeld
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  is also a massive rabid Zionist, right? Yeah.
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  And it's like, look, there's
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  a lot of, obviously there's a lot of Jewish people
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  in Hollywood and a bunch of them are pro-Israel,
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  right? And so you can
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  sort of decide, well, am I only going to patronize
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  comedy or drama for that matter by actors who
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  I agree with politically? Look, I respect people
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  who decide to make that decision. I'm not one
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  of them. Life is... We live in a capitalist society.
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  If I only hung out with people or only absorbed
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  popular culture by musicians and actors that
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  I agreed with, I probably wouldn't have a lot
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  of stuff to listen to or watch. So
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  I do think that all that said, look, I think I'm
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  very good at compartmentalizing that shit.
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  Harvey Weinstein, Harvey Weinstein, great
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  producer. To this day, when I see his
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  company logo come up on old movies, I'm like,
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  oh, this will probably be a good movie. He was
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  a great... I can separate out because he
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  had great taste in making movies. Quentin
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  Tarantino would have never had a career without
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  him. It's like, do I think Harvey Weinstein's
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  a good guy? No, he's exactly where he belongs.
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  But the thing is, it's like to me, it's
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  like that all that said. Enjoy your glory stop,
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  Ted. That guy can... But he does make fun of Israelis,
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  too. He does. He's swimming in the deepest well.
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  You saw a clip where he's making fun of the Israeli
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  mentality. Yeah, the Krav Maga thing. That's
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  an Israeli thing. And he's getting the Republican
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  congressmember, Rich, in there to participate
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  in this nonsense. It's almost like he's mocking
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  the way that the United States engages with Israel.
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  It's like if you told him any other thing, he
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  would have never been in that room. They would
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  have never put on the rubber buttocks. They would
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  have never put on the rubber pants. Right, if
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  they'd said, oh, I'm a Russian mixed martial
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  arts expert. No, he wouldn't have come. He wouldn't
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  have shown up. Or if we'd said, oh, he's
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  a Saudi Arabian
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  martial arts expert. Uh-uh. In fact, if they'd
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  even said, this guy is a Japanese wrestling
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  expert, they would not have brought him in, right?
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  It had to be Israeli martial arts. And it can
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  show the extremity of it. Hey, we need you to put
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  on a rubber buttocks and a rubber penis and this
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  is a new karate. And they did this, right?
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  And they make him look like the immigration thing.
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  It's like obviously we're wearing some kind of
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  muscle suit and they're making him look
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  ridiculous with the hair and everything.
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  Yeah. And he's mocking the immigration thing?
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  I don't know. My take, I've seen all
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  of his movies and all of his shows. And I would
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  say, normally what he does is he's pretty, he
• 21:43
  takes a lot of risks as a comedian. He makes
• 21:46
  himself the butt of the joke a lot of the time.
• 21:50
  And that's sort of what, and basically it's kind
• 21:52
  of like, I'm an idiot, come and join my idiocy.
• 21:55
  That's his approach. And people get
• 21:59
  conned. I have to say, I haven't seen anyone
• 22:01
  get conned who didn't deserve it. Robby,
• 22:04
  you could disagree, but that in Borat, the
• 22:07
  people that he exposes as racists kind of
• 22:11
  they are racist racists. Yeah. It's not
• 22:14
  like he got someone who's a good non-racist
• 22:18
  person to pretend to be racist. It's like
• 22:21
  he gets them. He goes to the
• 22:24
  rodeo and gets them all to sing a perverted
• 22:27
  version of the national anthem. He goes to
• 22:32
  that, I think it's in Texas, right? With the
• 22:36
  uptight manners people. They are uptight manners
• 22:41
  people. It's all like, I don't know.
• 22:46
  I don't know. I think he's funny. He is funny.
• 22:49
  Although, look, humor is inherently subjective,
• 22:51
  obviously. But this cartoonist likes him. He
• 22:57
  is a hemorrhoid that needs to be cut out. And
• 23:00
  send them off. I'm glad that you have this. I'm
• 23:02
  seriously, I love the diversity of opinion here.
• 23:04
  It's great. I love it. Agreed. So, Robby, I'm
• 23:08
  not mad at all. Not that you would care. I accept
• 23:11
  it. I accept everything you're saying. But that
• 23:14
  means that funny. Garry Kasparov, best player
• 23:17
  on the planet. Best player to ever play chess.
• 23:20
  Full-blown lunatic in regards to Russian problems.
• 23:23
  Yeah, total asshole that way, right?
• 23:26
  Look... Jesus Christ, you can sit there
• 23:30
  and say this about a million people.
• 23:32
  There are a lot of people who think
• 23:36
  Roger Waters is a terrible person, the
• 23:38
  lead singer of Pink Floyd. Yeah. I don't
• 23:41
  think it's... I have no problem with politics
• 23:43
  at all. Like that man is going to heaven regardless.
• 23:45
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Like Big Floyd made
• 23:49
  ... Yeah, yeah. I think he's... I think
• 23:54
  he's trying to think of the album. Oh, look,
• 23:57
  Johnny Rotten, a.k.a. Johnny Lydon of the Sex
• 24:00
  Pistols and Public Image Limited, right? He's
• 24:03
  got stupid fucking politics. He's a right-winger.
• 24:05
  He's a Tory. And it's like, all right, he's still
• 24:09
  a fucking amazing punk rocker, you know? Yeah,
• 24:13
  it's just complications of life. Yeah. All right.
• 24:19
  Honestly, we laugh at absurd stuff. I
• 24:21
  was watching, before we came on, I didn't do
• 24:23
  the show this morning because I have like four
• 24:24
  or three days. I was watching this criminal lawyer
• 24:29
  that he does sometimes reviews and there
• 24:32
  was a scene in it where it's a real case where
• 24:35
  the cops or the guy was like and they found the
• 24:40
  mom with an axe in her head and the kid was the
• 24:44
  only one that was there and the lawyer comes
• 24:47
  back on. It's like, okay, little Johnny, how did
• 24:50
  mom get the accident, right? And started laughing
• 24:53
  at the... And it's like, that's not funny, but that's
• 24:56
  so funny. Stuff like that. Gotta, gotta. And
• 25:03
  yeah. And look, every day there's fucking
• 25:06
  crazy shit to talk about. Like here.
• 25:09
  Okay, so this morning this showed up in
• 25:13
  my feed on... Let me put this up. Okay, so this
• 25:19
  was... This isn't on my X feed. This is U
• 25:22
  .S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, a federal
• 25:24
  agency of the United States government, also known
• 25:27
  as ICE, and they did this obviously AI-generated
• 25:30
  version of a World War I-style propaganda
• 25:33
  poster. And it shows patriots. And it shows
• 25:37
  the evolution, or I would say de-evolution,
• 25:40
  of American military or pseudo-military people
• 25:44
  from the American colonial army up through World
• 25:50
  War I, because that sort of looks like a General
• 25:53
  Pershing-era soldier, and then up to this masked
• 25:57
  ICE goon. I'm like, one thing here is not like
• 26:02
  the other. Soldiers are different than what the
• 26:07
  ... But there is a radical difference between
• 26:10
  a military and a police force, right? Radical difference.
• 26:14
  One kills. When it's designed to kill the
• 26:18
  enemy, Americans are preferably not the enemy.
• 26:22
  The idea that they're using this in a military
• 26:24
  capacity is very telling. It is telling, and it's
• 26:29
  also telling that the ICE guy is masked, right?
• 26:31
  Yes, yes, and nobody else is, right? It's like,
• 26:36
  why is everybody else face not covered? Because
• 26:39
  the other ones aren't who are afraid of being
• 26:41
  doxxed. Yeah. All right, what should we
• 26:45
  get into next? By the way, I'm trying to
• 26:49
  ... I saw a story this morning that Ansar Allah
• 26:50
  apparently hit another airport and apparently
• 26:53
  hit the defense ministry of Saudi Arabia. Yeah.
• 26:58
  Yeah, let's get into the Middle East, right?
• 27:01
  Because there's a lot going on here. So in no
• 27:04
  particular order, the West Bank has now been
• 27:08
  sealed off, sort of like a la Gaza, so that no
• 27:11
  goods can go in and out. Netanyahu's like, hey,
• 27:15
  it worked awesome that time. Let's do it again.
• 27:18
  By the way, that's obvious, though. Again, Israel
• 27:21
  only had a certain amount of force to dispense
• 27:25
  in a particular area, in which case was Gaza.
• 27:27
  And now they're just expanding the force into
• 27:28
  the West Bank. They were just using the settlers
• 27:30
  to do it. That's the way they could say, well,
• 27:32
  it's not us. It's not us. And again, when that
• 27:36
  reporter was beaten, viciously beaten and put
• 27:40
  in the hospital, who was standing there to protect
• 27:43
  the soldiers? I mean, to protect the settlers?
• 27:45
  Israeli soldiers. Right. It's amazing how that
• 27:48
  works. And it's like, look, these five Israeli
• 27:53
  soldiers were in Hebron, okay? You shouldn't
• 27:56
  be there. You don't belong there. You're in a
• 27:59
  place illegally without permission from the actual
• 28:02
  authorities. You shouldn't be there. So if something
• 28:06
  bad happens to you, I'm sorry, I'm not going
• 28:07
  to lose any sleep over it. Well, I'm not going
• 28:09
  to lose any sleep over it anyway, whether they're
• 28:12
  supposed to be there or not, because they're
• 28:13
  not supposed to be there either way. That's my
• 28:15
  point, yeah. For God's sake, man, you
• 28:18
  guys have slaughtered hundreds of thousands of
• 28:20
  people. Why am I going to give a shit about your
• 28:22
  soldiers being hit? Imagine,
• 28:25
  and this is the insanity of the way
• 28:29
  the news media reports this stuff. It's like,
• 28:31
  these Israeli soldiers were killed. Right. As
• 28:34
  if it's in a vacuum. Right. It's not in a vacuum.
• 28:38
  Or they were in some sort of legitimate
• 28:40
  conflict zone if such a thing exists. Yeah. Or
• 28:44
  Kamala Harris recently was talking about, well,
• 28:47
  there was a war going on and the United States
• 28:49
  should have used this leverage. Shut up.
• 28:51
  Maybe Sacha Baron Cohen can do a comedy skit
• 28:53
  about it. Maybe. He probably will. He probably
• 28:57
  will. Just saying. Knowing him, he probably will.
• 28:59
  He's such a turd. He is. And he probably will.
• 29:02
  Saudi Arabia, though. Okay, so the U.S. is told,
• 29:05
  you know what's next. Basically all
• 29:09
  non-essential personnel have been ordered out.
• 29:13
  There's that whole Davos in the desert thing
• 29:15
  has been canceled. The airport's been closed
• 29:17
  for the better part of 10 days, and there's no
• 29:19
  sign of it. It's supposed to reopen today, but
• 29:21
  it probably won't. And so basically, the Houthis
• 29:26
  are going to just keep hitting them. They can't
• 29:29
  export their oil. The Saudis are in a world of
• 29:32
  pain, and they're cornered. They're boxed in.
• 29:36
  They can't get the only product that they make
• 29:40
  out of the country. They can't host any tourists
• 29:44
  or any business people. Their keeps getting
• 29:49
  blown up. What are they going to do?
• 29:54
  They keep... When you're
• 29:56
  boxed in, you either have to figure out a game
• 30:00
  changer that gets you out or you have to negotiate
• 30:03
  and surrender. What are they going to do? Prayer. That's
• 30:08
  not a plan. Sorry, Robert. Prayer is not a plan.
• 30:12
  On their knees, face down, prayer. They better
• 30:17
  say a hell of a prayer because that's the thing
• 30:19
  that's going to pull their ass out of the fire.
• 30:21
  For one, MBS is a ridiculous leader to
• 30:24
  have started this war. Two, they've earned this.
• 30:28
  Earned it. And the earning of it hasn't necessarily
• 30:31
  been extinguished yet. They've earned this shit.
• 30:35
  Third, they're going to have to come to terms.
• 30:39
  Period. They can't keep this up. And the idea
• 30:41
  of Turkey or Pakistan, the United States
• 30:45
  military that spends a trillion dollars was involved
• 30:47
  in the war. And the United States had to back
• 30:50
  down. What the hell are these other countries
• 30:53
  going to do? Saudi Arabia is one of the
• 30:56
  most expensive militaries in the world. What
• 30:58
  the hell are these other countries going to do?
• 30:59
  And what are you going to do? Have four or five
• 31:01
  countries going against one of the poorest countries
• 31:03
  in the region? They don't seem to be all that
• 31:06
  interested in getting directly involved in the
• 31:07
  war. Egypt might. But up to this point, we haven't
• 31:11
  necessarily seen troops on the ground. Egypt
• 31:12
  is definitely slow-walking this. They have a
• 31:16
  mutual defense pact, freshly minted, ink is still
• 31:20
  wet. Well, I don't think Egypt does. Egypt is
• 31:23
  not part of Mecca Alliance. Egypt is the newcomer
• 31:25
  to the thing, saying they're going to get involved.
• 31:27
  I thought Egypt had already made the commitment
• 31:30
  that they would defend Saudi Arabia. You mean
• 31:33
  recently, over the last couple of days? No, I
• 31:36
  mean over the last couple of weeks. But in the
• 31:39
  very beginning the mega pact was Turkey and Pakistan.
• 31:41
  Right? Egypt was the part of it, but yeah, but
• 31:44
  the thing is they... I think it's
• 31:46
  one of those like, CC's kind of like, well, yeah,
• 31:50
  we know we kind of said we would, but we don't
• 31:55
  want to because it's not good for us.
• 31:58
  Well, I made the point of saying we would shut
• 32:00
  down the Suez Canal if you do something like that.
• 32:02
  Yeah, certainly Egypt is within range, so there's
• 32:06
  no... Yeah, yeah. It's like you see what's happening
• 32:15
  in Saudi Arabia and Riyadh. They hit Riyadh today.
• 32:17
  They hit the defense ministry today. They think
• 32:20
  that the defense minister might be killed. They
• 32:22
  hit Aramco, right? And an airport today. And so
• 32:27
  it's like if the defense minister of Saudi Arabia
• 32:29
  is dead as a result of the strike that took place
• 32:30
  today because they believed that he was in the
• 32:32
  building. Oh my God. This is talking about
• 32:36
  upside-down world. The poorest... It is upside-down
• 32:39
  world. It's leveling one of the richest countries.
• 32:42
  True. It's just amazing to watch. And again, you
• 32:46
  look at it, you think it's the ultimate triumph
• 32:47
  of asymmetric warfare, right? Yes, it is. Dude, man,
• 32:51
  you got to read Dune. You got to read it. It explains
• 32:56
  all of this. So they make the point of saying
• 33:01
  if you don't... If you allow smaller... Let's see, planets,
• 33:05
  but in this case, countries, to develop technologically.
• 33:09
  Inevitably, you get to the point where they're
• 33:10
  able to deal with countries that are much larger
• 33:12
  than the smaller country, in which case they
• 33:13
  can balance out power in an asymmetric way. The
• 33:16
  reason why God Emperor never let planets develop
• 33:20
  was because of Ansar Allah. That's the exact
• 33:23
  reason. Exact reason. So it's wild to
• 33:28
  me that in the 60s, they were saying the same
• 33:30
  thing. Yeah. Well, in a way, things never
• 33:34
  change. I was just working on a cartoon
• 33:36
  next week, making fun of the whole idea of...
• 33:39
  This is kind of like now right now, Russia
• 33:41
  is increasing strikes against Ukraine
• 33:44
  because they're preparing for peace talks and
• 33:46
  they want to be in a better position to negotiate.
• 33:48
  And I was thinking the Americans did the
• 33:50
  same thing before the Paris peace talks that
• 33:52
  sort of drew the... Basically began the beginning
• 33:55
  of the end of the Vietnam War. Everyone always
• 33:58
  does that. I did a cartoon about that. It's like
• 34:00
  basically everyone always does that. Nothing
• 34:02
  ever really changes. Yeah, they try to get to
• 34:05
  the best position possible before the peace talks.
• 34:07
  And yeah, I strongly suspect that the peace talks
• 34:10
  are because a new context is taking place. Ukraine
• 34:12
  is being taken apart. Oh, yeah. And the Yalta
• 34:16
  meeting coming up. Well, they're not calling
• 34:18
  it Yalta, but that's what it is. It's Yalta 2
• 34:20
  .0. Yeah, Yalta 2.0. They don't want to say
• 34:22
  it, but that's what it is. We're going to carve
• 34:25
  up the world. They are going to carve up the
• 34:28
  world. And Europe has no seat at the table. Colonialists
• 34:32
  have no seat at the table. It is a colonialist
• 34:35
  mentality. Let me play devil's advocate here
• 34:38
  and kind of say, look, I don't think Europe or
• 34:43
  Zelensky should be at the table. Maybe ever, but
• 34:48
  certainly not at this point because they've already
• 34:51
  proven themselves so incredibly unreasonable
• 34:53
  and unwilling to negotiate. At a certain
• 34:56
  point it's like, look, this is a proxy war
• 35:00
  between the U.S. and Russia, and
• 35:03
  it's kind of like, all right,
• 35:05
  so the U.S. and Russia have to resolve it, and it's
• 35:09
  good to have China at the table because China
• 35:12
  has tried to position itself as a negotiator
• 35:16
  in matters like this, and they're perfect, and
• 35:19
  they kind of know both sides. I think
• 35:22
  it makes sense, and it's kind of like... Let me another
• 35:25
  way to look at it is, let's just say you had peace
• 35:27
  negotiations only between the two combatants,
• 35:32
  Russia and Ukraine. I don't... I would have very
• 35:35
  low hopes for anything meaningful being achieved
• 35:37
  there. The Ukrainians are serious, you
• 35:41
  know? Well, I don't believe that Ukraine is the
• 35:43
  main combatant. I think the U.S. is the main
• 35:44
  combatant. Right. Meaning all of this is taking
• 35:47
  place through Ukraine. Yeah, Zelensky would have
• 35:49
  to run into the next room every now and then
• 35:51
  and be like, oh, listen, hold on a second. I
• 35:53
  got to go check with the boss, right? Yeah, the
• 35:55
  real conversation. Look at what happened.
• 35:58
  The day before, Zelensky is like, we're going
• 36:00
  to fight back. We're going to take back Crimea
• 36:02
  and all this other stuff. And then he gets a
• 36:04
  stern talk into by Rubio. And by Witkoff, basically,
• 36:08
  shut the F up. You're not going to get weapons.
• 36:11
  You're not going to get intelligence. You're
• 36:14
  not going to get Starlink. You're not going to
• 36:15
  get anything. You're just going to get pummeled.
• 36:17
  Shut up. And what did you say when Zelensky came
• 36:20
  back out? Yes, I'm willing to see territory and
• 36:23
  blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, Zelensky's
• 36:26
  latest is that he's willing to freeze the conflict
• 36:29
  at the current line of control. Right, which
• 36:32
  Russia's not going to do. Now, they will talk
• 36:34
  to you about it. Russia wants a little more,
• 36:35
  yeah. Well, Peskov... They probably should get. I
• 36:39
  would say if the Russians can walk away with
• 36:41
  Odessa and some kind of buffer demilitarized
• 36:45
  buffer zone like 100 miles east-west, they'd probably
• 36:50
  be okay. They're not stopping this war up until
• 36:53
  the point where they find security guarantees
• 36:56
  for all of Europe, meaning they're looking for
• 36:59
  a new security architecture of Europe, which I
• 37:01
  would like to point out is what Putin was asking
• 37:03
  for five years ago. Meaning Russia is going to
• 37:06
  win this war. But actually, Putin wasn't really
• 37:08
  asking. Let's be serious here. Putin was not
• 37:11
  asking for a new security architecture. He was
• 37:14
  merely asking for the West to adhere to its commitments
• 37:18
  that are decades old, that it already made, that
• 37:21
  it made to Gorbachev and then to Yeltsin and
• 37:26
  so on. And even drunk Yeltsin complained about
• 37:30
  this NATO expansion shit and was constantly ignored.
• 37:33
  Yeah. I guess my point is Putin is going to get
• 37:36
  the security architecture of Europe and Russia
• 37:38
  that he wanted. And unfortunately, a lot of people
• 37:42
  had to die for him to get it. But that's basically
• 37:45
  what this is. When Peskov is talking, when Putin
• 37:47
  is talking, most recent interviews, they were
• 37:48
  like, yeah, this conversation is not going to
• 37:51
  be limited to just Russia and Ukraine because
• 37:53
  it's not just about Russia and Ukraine. It's
• 37:55
  about the expansion of NATO. Ukraine is just
• 37:56
  the proxy for it. And so his thing is like, look,
• 37:59
  this conversation is going to include a new security
• 38:01
  architecture of Europe. That's what it is. Now
• 38:05
  I'm talking about the... Between Ukraine, Putin
• 38:08
  and... Well, let's say Ukraine, the United States
• 38:11
  and Russia. Yeah, they're looking at it as a new
• 38:13
  security architecture of Europe, which is good.
• 38:15
  And they shouldn't have had to have
• 38:19
  two, three million people dead. And by the
• 38:22
  way, ironically, what I would tell Europe including
• 38:24
  the Ukrainians and the Poles, I would say this
• 38:28
  will actually keep you more secure and you will
• 38:31
  be able to spend less money on defense. This
• 38:34
  is a win for everybody. This is how it should
• 38:36
  have been a long time ago. Well, it's not exactly
• 38:38
  a win for Europe. Europe has been hollowed out
• 38:42
  in this war. Well, look at what's going on in
• 38:44
  France. And we're going to talk about the youth
• 38:45
  protests. But these countries...
• 38:47
  France is like... Here they are amping
• 38:51
  up their military spending at the same time that
• 38:53
  their economy is in disaster because they're
• 38:56
  in monstrous amounts of debt, so much so that
• 38:59
  they can't fix their schools. And as a result,
• 39:02
  the country's burning down. But there
• 39:05
  hasn't been a word from Emmanuel Macron or his
• 39:09
  allies about reducing defense spending. Well,
• 39:12
  that's rough because they started, the countries
• 39:16
  have been burning down their economies for this
• 39:18
  particular war. See, that's what I mean. I don't
• 39:19
  know if this, from Europe's point of view, is
• 39:22
  a good thing. I think they're freaked out about
• 39:24
  the idea of peace. From their point of
• 39:26
  view, the U.S. is carving us out. I agree with
• 39:31
  you. I had this argument with one of my guests
• 39:33
  one day. Well, why should Europe be at the
• 39:35
  table? Meaning they... They're a pointless
• 39:38
  entity. I know they were colonists, but
• 39:41
  they're a tick on the ass of America. They are
• 39:43
  not a power unto themselves. Yeah, they're financing
• 39:48
  the Ukrainians, but that's their own. They're
• 39:51
  using this as a lens of power, but they're
• 39:54
  using the United States as that lens. They are
• 39:56
  not a power unto themselves. Europe is falling
• 39:58
  apart. But they're also not relevant to the conflict,
• 40:01
  really, in a meaningful way. They're not relevant.
• 40:03
  Well, they've been putting a bunch of
• 40:04
  money into it, and they've been burning their
• 40:06
  economies for it. So you can say they're relevant
• 40:08
  in that sense, but more fool them for doing that.
• 40:11
  Right. Look, my biggest issue was Zelensky's
• 40:15
  responsibility was to Ukraine, just like the
• 40:17
  European leader's responsibility is to Europe.
• 40:19
  It doesn't matter if the United States wants
• 40:22
  to push them to stop using energy or to get more
• 40:25
  into war footing. If it's not in the country's
• 40:26
  best interest, they shouldn't do it. More fool
• 40:28
  them for doing that, and maybe they should grow
• 40:30
  up. And I know they're... I have a question
• 40:36
  for both of y'all. Grow the up. Do y'all think
• 40:39
  that Russia will push this to Transnistria
• 40:43
  because there's that enclave
• 40:46
  there? I don't. And if Russia sees... If Putin sees
• 40:49
  himself as the guardian not of the Russian state
• 40:51
  but Russian nation, that is. I think he does now,
• 40:58
  but I don't know if he's going to push that far.
• 41:04
  Well, I think because I think ultimately Putin
• 41:07
  wants a deal. I don't think he wants to take
• 41:10
  all of Ukraine. Well, he doesn't, but that southern
• 41:12
  coastline looks awfully appetizing, and that
• 41:14
  solves a lot of problems. It creates the land
• 41:17
  bridge to Crimea solved. The Russians over Transnistria
• 41:21
  are linked up with the motherland. Ukraine
• 41:24
  at that point becomes landlocked. It becomes
• 41:26
  a permanent rump state. If I
• 41:30
  was a maximalist gains, that's what I would do.
• 41:32
  Yeah, yeah. I don't think exactly, and I don't think
• 41:35
  Putin's a maximalist. Yeah, I think he's a balancer.
• 41:38
  I don't think he's... That's just... I think he's
• 41:41
  like a bureaucrat. I don't think
• 41:43
  he wanted this war for one. I think he would prosecute
• 41:45
  the war if he needed to, but he was pushed into
• 41:47
  prosecuting the war. It was Ukraine's escalation
• 41:50
  that pushed them further and further into the war.
• 41:53
  I even had a pet theory that Donald Trump was
• 41:55
  like, will you get this over with? I even had a
• 42:00
  pet theory of that, that Trump didn't give a about
• 42:02
  Ukraine, meaning regardless of U.S. policy towards
• 42:05
  Ukraine all that much, didn't care, and at a certain
• 42:07
  point if you remember Trump was like, all right,
• 42:09
  well, these two, maybe they need to fight it out,
• 42:11
  right? I think Trump, what goes on in
• 42:16
  Trump's heart of hearts kind of, in a way, doesn't
• 42:18
  really matter because what matters is policy.
• 42:20
  But it is interesting. And it kind of,
• 42:24
  if his heart's not into it, that means he will
• 42:28
  look for an excuse to get out of it and back
• 42:30
  away from this project. Because at one point,
• 42:32
  if you remember, he was like, well, maybe they
• 42:33
  just need to fight it out. And it's like, fight
• 42:35
  it out. Ukraine is getting crushed. And he's
• 42:38
  like, well, maybe he just wants them crushed
• 42:39
  in order to bend them in the form in a particular
• 42:43
  way where they don't have a choice. Or maybe
• 42:45
  he just doesn't really care. That's probably
• 42:50
  true. But I think U.S. policy is to care about
• 42:53
  Ukraine, which puts him in a box. And they don't
• 42:57
  really care about Ukraine. To put a fine point
• 43:00
  on it, U.S. policymakers, they don't care about
• 43:03
  the Ukrainian people. They care about Ukraine
• 43:07
  as a wedge. It's a way to break apart Russia,
• 43:13
  lessen them, to make them not an empire, to weaken
• 43:17
  them, and to bring a hostile military bloc right
• 43:22
  up to their border. The Ukrainians are being
• 43:27
  exploited here. They're being used. That's an
• 43:29
  understatement. That's an understatement. And
• 43:32
  every time they have these Democrats with these
• 43:34
  flag pins and everything else, it's like... Yeah,
• 43:38
  I kind of feel like, look,
• 43:41
  you guys are at war and... It sucks for you,
• 43:43
  but you're kind of idiots about this. You kind
• 43:46
  of like, this is kind of like,
• 43:50
  just think about, you look
• 43:51
  at the map and you're like, listen, any a seven
• 43:55
  -year-old could look at a map and say,
• 43:58
  clearly, Ukraine, where it is, needs to learn
• 44:02
  how to get along well with its big neighbor and
• 44:05
  probably doesn't need to listen that much to
• 44:08
  the other people who say that they're their
• 44:11
  friends who live on the other side of a big continent
• 44:14
  plus a big ocean away. Right. They're
• 44:18
  not really... It's not that important to them to
• 44:20
  get along with, to be, and for them to be like,
• 44:23
  hey, leave your wife. I'll be good
• 44:26
  to you. I love you. I give you sex
• 44:29
  every night. It'll be great. I'll cook for you.
• 44:36
  Every night so much sex, so it'll be good. But
• 44:39
  the U.S. has been singing that song.
• 44:42
  It's like, hey, Saddam, how's that working out
• 44:45
  for you? Hey, Mr. Gaddafi, how's that working
• 44:49
  out for you? Mr. Noriega, how'd that go for you?
• 44:52
  And it goes on and on, right? These former
• 44:55
  U.S. clients that have all been just thrown
• 44:58
  into the wood chipper one after another.
• 45:01
  Ukrainians, you guys should read some history,
• 45:04
  really. Yeah. Millions of people are
• 45:06
  dead. A catastrophe. Again, if
• 45:09
  they can settle it, I want to settle it. But
• 45:11
  they're going to settle it on Russian terms.
• 45:14
  That needs to be very clear at this point. That's
• 45:17
  clear to everybody. It's clear. Even Robert Kagan's
• 45:21
  got to secretly know this is true, right? Even
• 45:24
  Ann Applebaum knows secretly that this is true.
• 45:27
  And all of these people have lost. And all of
• 45:29
  that money that was spent on Ukraine was not.
• 45:32
  Russia is stronger today than it was before the
• 45:35
  war. It's much stronger military, much stronger
• 45:37
  military capacity from the standpoint of a technological
• 45:39
  capacity, much more industrial capacity from
• 45:41
  that standpoint. Its geopolitical standing is
• 45:43
  like much of it. Yeah, just a beast. And the
• 45:46
  same thing for Iran, right? All of this naked
• 45:51
  aggression has found itself to be not. Do you
• 45:54
  know what Europe reminds me of? Apollo Creed
• 45:56
  from Rocky II. I beat that man, I beat that man,
• 45:59
  and he just kept coming. Yep. That's Europe.
• 46:02
  You're a fighter. You pass your heyday. And you're
• 46:06
  in love with the limelight. So you decide one last
• 46:09
  brawl. Let's see what happens. The problem is
• 46:11
  that he's out of shape. Right. You got to beat
• 46:16
  the shit out of you in the ring. And by the way,
• 46:18
  legally. He legally kills you in the ring. Right.
• 46:22
  Right. God, man, that was a rough one. Those
• 46:26
  movies were so good. They're so good. I should
• 46:29
  do a Rocky personal home festival,
• 46:35
  film festival. Just watch them all. All the way
• 46:40
  through the second Creed one. Well, see, I didn't
• 46:43
  get into Creed. I stopped at, I think, the last
• 46:46
  Rocky. It was sad. It's five, right?
• 46:48
  It's the last Rocky. Rocky V is the last one
• 46:51
  I stopped watching. Yeah, that's what I stopped
• 46:53
  watching. Because it was a little bit, like,
• 46:55
  seeing it modern is a little weird for some reason.
• 46:58
  Yeah. I guess I would give Creed a chance. I
• 47:00
  haven't watched Creed 1 or 2. I haven't watched
• 47:02
  it yet. I would give it a chance. I'm not a big
• 47:04
  fan of the actor. Yeah, me neither. But they're
• 47:07
  favorably reviewed. Well, then we all have to
• 47:10
  go to New York, Ted, and hang out with you. Film
• 47:13
  festival. All right. Yeah, that's going to take
• 47:16
  multiple days. Okay, so we have a lot more to
• 47:22
  talk about, so we should move on. What do you
• 47:23
  want to talk about? By the way, that event's
• 47:25
  going to take place in Abu Dhabi apparently sometime
• 47:27
  in November between Ukraine, Russia, and the
• 47:30
  U.S. Okay, that'll be, yeah. So I guess we'll
• 47:34
  have to ask the Houthis not to bomb it. I know.
• 47:37
  I know. I know, right? Guys. Could you please
• 47:41
  not hit? Yeah. By the way, do we care about the
• 47:47
  Peter Thiel thing? I thought it was interesting.
• 47:48
  Yeah, let's talk about the Peter Thiel thing.
• 47:50
  Peter Thiel only cares because he's losing the
• 47:52
  war. Yep. Peter Thiel said he said, yeah, and
• 47:56
  it's good for the entire global economy. Yeah,
• 47:59
  but that misanthrope doesn't care. He just cares
• 48:00
  about himself and his will. Right, right. Yeah.
• 48:03
  He said we should not have done it privately.
• 48:05
  And so these, you're seeing
• 48:09
  fractures here in the... In MAGA
• 48:13
  world over the Iran war, over a bunch of other
• 48:16
  stuff. We'll talk about the MAHA
• 48:19
  thing too because I think that's interesting.
• 48:21
  It's more interesting than what it looks like.
• 48:23
  But let's talk about it. The... So
• 48:27
  Calley Means, who first and foremost just
• 48:30
  for the audience, MAHA is Make America Healthy
• 48:32
  Again, right? So this is the RF... This is basically
• 48:35
  the main point of RFK Jr. right, being the head
• 48:38
  of the Department of Health and Human Services.
• 48:42
  By the way, I backed that. I was for that. Oh,
• 48:44
  me too. Me too. That was the only, I kept telling
• 48:47
  everyone I knew, the one thing I was excited
• 48:49
  about, about a Trump's second administration
• 48:51
  was that and Tulsi Gabbard. Same here. And Tulsi,
• 48:57
  that didn't work out well. So Make America Healthy,
• 49:01
  so here's the thing. Okay, so this is a public
• 49:05
  thing. Calley Means has just quit. And basically
• 49:09
  he publicly said thanks to the president for
• 49:13
  the opportunity to serve. But behind closed doors,
• 49:15
  he's telling friends, listen, there's just
• 49:18
  too much influence from big food and big pharma,
• 49:20
  and they're not letting me do anything. The lobbyists
• 49:23
  have just gotten me frozen up. And I don't need
• 49:25
  to hear those rumors from him to know that that's
• 49:29
  clearly the case. Just from the fact
• 49:32
  that, look, this presidential and second presidential
• 49:35
  administration is now about to enter its third
• 49:37
  year and there has been no announcement of
• 49:42
  note that is important to MAHA world, right?
• 49:45
  We should all be MAHA, right? We should all
• 49:48
  be into getting rid of factory farms
• 49:53
  and highly processed foods that are poisoning
• 49:57
  us. We should have at least the same
• 49:59
  standards as the EU, which is what RFK Jr.
• 50:03
  had promised. We never see RFK Jr. He has nothing
• 50:08
  to and he's not allowed to talk, which is just
• 50:10
  as well because he obviously has nothing to announce.
• 50:12
  And there's obviously he has no room to maneuver
• 50:16
  in the administration. He does not have a portfolio
• 50:20
  that allows him to kick ass and take names, so
• 50:24
  he's basically been gelded and it sucks for him.
• 50:29
  I guess it really sucks for the American people
• 50:32
  and for the hundreds of thousands
• 50:34
  of people who are dying needlessly of cancer
• 50:36
  every year. Well, that's just cancer. Everything else, and the key reasons in talking
• 50:43
  about childhood illnesses, that was this
• 50:46
  thing, right? It's all of these kids have
• 50:47
  autism. All of these kids have some kind of illness.
• 50:49
  This is abnormal in comparison to the 60s
• 50:53
  or whatever particular date, and what changed
• 50:55
  over this period of time, and goes into this argument
• 50:58
  of food additives and things that are added to
• 50:59
  our foods and things that are in our environment.
• 51:01
  I think he's right, right? And they're hitting
• 51:05
  him on the vaccine stuff, but even on the vaccine
• 51:07
  stuff his argument was basically, look, we
• 51:09
  should test these like we test any other drug.
• 51:11
  Why are these away from tests? And I
• 51:15
  got to be honest with you, when people are screaming
• 51:17
  no, no, we shouldn't test it, it makes me think
• 51:19
  those should be tested, right? Totally. More of
• 51:23
  a reason to do something, not less. When I hear
• 51:26
  people scream, you can't do this, it's
• 51:28
  well, that's strange. You test everything else.
• 51:30
  Why this? Scientists are always, well,
• 51:32
  we haven't seen an alien, so I
• 51:35
  can't believe that an alien exists. And it's
• 51:37
  well, we haven't seen dark matter either,
• 51:39
  but you believe that mystical thing exists.
• 51:43
  But I'm sorry, that's pet peeve. Sorry, Peppy,
• 51:48
  but the RFK thing, I think I agree with you. They
• 51:51
  neutered him. And you think to yourself,
• 51:53
  what is the power? You've been alive longer than
• 51:55
  I have. So you have more knowledge power than
• 51:59
  I do on this stuff. What is the power that lobbyists
• 52:03
  have? They're just putting money into
• 52:05
  particular sources, right? What am I
• 52:07
  missing? Because they're not, unless
• 52:09
  he means. Well, they also make, the other thing
• 52:12
  is they make these legislators. They
• 52:17
  literally these lobbyists literally
• 52:20
  they come in with high-powered lawyers and they
• 52:22
  literally say to congressmen and senators
• 52:25
  hey, listen, we really want you to do this
• 52:29
  or that. And by the way, here's the exact text
• 52:32
  of the bill that you could propose. And they
• 52:35
  literally write the bill. And in many cases,
• 52:37
  those bills have been signed into law that were
• 52:40
  written word for word by a lobbying firm. But
• 52:43
  they don't need lobbyists in order to make policy
• 52:46
  from the standpoint of health, right?
• 52:48
  Meaning RFK. No. Right. He's a cabinet
• 52:53
  member, right? He can issue all sorts
• 52:57
  of executive, not presidential executive orders,
• 52:59
  but he has immense regulatory control over the
• 53:03
  FDA. Which is what I'm getting at. He's using
• 53:07
  that regulatory control. And the CDC.
• 53:09
  He's basically. He is the nation's health czar.
• 53:14
  He has more power than Fauci did during the pandemic.
• 53:18
  So what do the lobbyists have to do with internal
• 53:21
  policy? So what's going on is if RFK is going
• 53:26
  to the president, for example, and buttonholing
• 53:29
  him and said, sir, I'd really like to impose.
• 53:34
  Let's just say he's radical. I
• 53:36
  really want to. We have midterms coming
• 53:37
  up. We really do need to come through for this
• 53:40
  agenda. We got especially a lot of moms signed
• 53:43
  up and voted for you in 2024. Let's come
• 53:48
  through. Let's adopt the EU food standards, right?
• 53:52
  Food safety standards, for example. And then
• 53:57
  he would, and then let's say President Trump
• 54:00
  is all for it. He's, good idea, Bobby. I'll
• 54:05
  take care of it. Then he tells Susie Wiles, the
• 54:10
  chief of staff, I'm going to do something for
• 54:13
  Bobby Kennedy here. Let's do this. Then Susie
• 54:16
  Wiles, she starts to get direct meetings or she
• 54:22
  hears about indirect meetings from these lobbyists
• 54:25
  who are coming from Kraft Foods and McDonald's
• 54:29
  and all these big corporations. And they're,
• 54:33
  do you realize how many jobs are going to be,
• 54:35
  how many people McDonald's is going to have to
• 54:37
  fire if we do this? Do you realize a quarter
• 54:40
  pounder, a Happy Meal is going to be $25? You
• 54:44
  realize how much inflation is going to be? So
• 54:48
  they basically they use arguments that are
• 54:51
  based in truth and they make shit up
• 54:54
  too. But basically they put pushback and they're
• 54:57
  listen, we will start if you
• 55:00
  really push us. We'll start to donate to your
• 55:02
  opponents and we will fuck you politically. So
• 55:05
  basically they work their magic, not just in
• 55:08
  terms of campaign donations, but they also
• 55:11
  have a seat at the table in a way that the
• 55:14
  moms who are just trying to have their kids eat
• 55:16
  healthily don't. And that's really the big difference.
• 55:21
  Yeah. We need FDR. Or TR. They hate
• 55:29
  me. I live off their hatred. That type of stuff.
• 55:33
  That's what you need. Because this is just weak.
• 55:37
  But also FDR appointed a lot of cabinet members
• 55:40
  and he told them don't let these fuckers in.
• 55:43
  Don't talk to them. Just do your job. And also
• 55:48
  TR was even more extreme. The trust buster. He
• 55:54
  didn't only have cabinet members who shared his
• 55:57
  vision. He also invited left-wing muckraker
• 56:01
  journalists into the office at the corridors
• 56:04
  of power and gave them carte blanche to sit in
• 56:06
  on cabinet and departmental meetings and to look
• 56:09
  at any files that they wanted to and ordered
• 56:12
  the government to cooperate with them fully.
• 56:14
  Basically, it was, hold our feet to the
• 56:18
  fire. I want you to lean on me. Sort
• 56:23
  of when it's kind of analogous to when LBJ
• 56:26
  met privately with MLK and said
• 56:30
  hey, listen, I need you to get out there
• 56:32
  with some protests and we this never happened,
• 56:35
  but I need you to go out there and say bad
• 56:37
  things about me so that I can claim I'm pressured
• 56:40
  by you guys. It's that. Yeah, yeah. But the
• 56:44
  difference is Trump is not. I don't think he'll
• 56:48
  have to be located. See, here's the thing. He
• 56:50
  didn't care about... He's not a MAHA guy himself,
• 56:54
  right? The reality of it
• 56:57
  is, Trump is 80-something years old, or 80 years
• 57:00
  old. He's old. He's tired. And I know for myself,
• 57:04
  the older you get, the tireder you get. Meaning
• 57:07
  you don't have the energy to do that stuff. You
• 57:10
  don't have the vigor to care about all these
• 57:12
  other issues that. I don't think he cares.
• 57:15
  You need... and that's the sad part and
• 57:17
  it's not near and dear to him, right? It's not
• 57:19
  there's stuff that's near
• 57:22
  and dear to you. For example,
• 57:24
  near and dear to him is he doesn't drink because
• 57:28
  his brother drank himself to death. I bet if you
• 57:31
  had some kind of anti-alcohol thing he'd be
• 57:33
  a lot more interested in that because of his
• 57:36
  own personal experience. Maybe. Yeah, more so, but
• 57:40
  this is a guy who eats at McDonald's. He does
• 57:42
  not care. Yeah, Trump cares about money. That's
• 57:46
  it. He cares about enriching himself and making
• 57:49
  himself look good. He's a narcissist. And he
• 57:51
  does not care. The thing is, I know that he's
• 57:55
  not all bad as a supervisor, but he doesn't understand
• 57:59
  one thing you've got to do as a boss, which is
• 58:02
  you've got to make things worthwhile for the
• 58:06
  people beneath you. You've got to give them accomplishments.
• 58:09
  He needs to give Bobby Kennedy a reason to tell
• 58:14
  Cheryl Hines, guess what I got? Guess
• 58:17
  what the president's doing for me? And he doesn't.
• 58:21
  Trump doesn't manage that way. But he doesn't have any power unto himself in
• 58:25
  that office. Right. This is because it makes
• 58:29
  Trump a senator and it takes away agency from
• 58:31
  RFK. Meaning he may just not know what the
• 58:34
  fuck he's doing in that job. Yeah. So I don't
• 58:38
  know. I'm just saying that office has been dormant.
• 58:43
  And torment is all hell. And all the things that,
• 58:46
  because it was, we're going to
• 58:48
  change things. We're, Europe has all
• 58:51
  of these seven foods that are generally
• 58:53
  recognized as safe. We have hundreds. And he's
• 58:57
  making a decent case. And again, you're
• 58:59
  talking to somebody who had childhood illness,
• 59:01
  right? So my thing is, was I broken from
• 59:05
  the beginning or did I get broken from some environmental
• 59:08
  circumstance? Which one is it? Or is it a little
• 59:11
  bit of both? I think we're poisoning
• 59:13
  ourselves. And so the agency that's supposed
• 59:16
  to be involved in looking into that stuff, in
• 59:18
  fact, I'll go further. I think kids get weaker
• 59:21
  over the course of their generations. So let's
• 59:24
  say my dad gets renal failure at, I don't know,
• 59:27
  60. I get it at 17. Or my grandfather gets a
• 59:32
  certain cancer at, let's say, 70 something. And
• 59:36
  then my uncle gets it at 40s. And then somebody
• 59:40
  else gets it in their younger ages. I think we're
• 59:42
  getting weaker as a society in general. Even the
• 59:44
  sperm count, even that, and I know that's
• 59:47
  well, that's not even. That's for. That's a
• 59:49
  big indicator. Our fertility rate is way
• 59:52
  low. Our mobility rate is lower. Sperm counts are
• 59:55
  lower. Microplastics are in our brains.
• 59:59
  They're in our sperm. They're in our babies.
• 1:00:02
  We're doing something wrong. That's my point, and
• 1:00:05
  it behooves us to figure it out. As a software
• 1:00:07
  engineer, if they could make. If I'm coming into
• 1:00:10
  a company and there's, let's say Amazon. Amazon
• 1:00:14
  is not as complicated as the human body, meaning
• 1:00:16
  the application, but I guarantee you if there's
• 1:00:18
  something wrong in it, it will be a pain in the
• 1:00:20
  ass and find it. You can do stuff well. You
• 1:00:23
  don't even know that you've done that's wrong,
• 1:00:25
  and you find out later when there's
• 1:00:28
  some kind of math issue that comes up and you're
• 1:00:30
  why is that number that way? Okay, now I need
• 1:00:32
  to figure out what the hell is going on. Maybe
• 1:00:34
  it's that we are proceeding very fast and we're
• 1:00:38
  missing basic things that may be affecting the
• 1:00:42
  human being that we may not even be looking for.
• 1:00:44
  Yeah. No, I agree. And look, that's related
• 1:00:47
  to this coral reef story too, right?
• 1:00:51
  Which we should touch upon. So look,
• 1:00:55
  they've been sounding the alarm about coral reefs.
• 1:00:57
  Coral reefs are super important. Shout. There
• 1:01:00
  are deep sea and there are shallow water coral
• 1:01:02
  reefs, and very simply, coral reefs can live
• 1:01:06
  under within a certain temperature range, and
• 1:01:09
  waters have just gotten too hot and now they're
• 1:01:12
  dying. Now the thing is, I'm a scuba diver and
• 1:01:15
  it's gotten to the point where which is one of
• 1:01:18
  the reasons I know that the UK, the Nord Stream
• 1:01:21
  2 story is bullshit. But it is really
• 1:01:28
  hard for divers to go anywhere in the world now
• 1:01:32
  and find a living coral reef. Big sections of
• 1:01:35
  the Great Barrier Reef in Australia are bleached
• 1:01:38
  out, and when I say bleach, what basically means
• 1:01:41
  is when you think about classic coral
• 1:01:44
  reef, there's a zillion bright neon colors
• 1:01:48
  of the coral and weird shapes. It's
• 1:01:52
  living on it, looking at alien world, and there's
• 1:01:55
  tons of eels and lobsters, spiny lobsters,
• 1:02:00
  and there's crazy amounts of brightly colored
• 1:02:04
  tropical fish. It's an aquarium on acid,
• 1:02:07
  right? Now you go, and if you go to some place
• 1:02:11
  a traditional dive site, in Trinidad
• 1:02:14
  or Belize or some place that, you're going
• 1:02:17
  to dive, and there's going to be dead coral.
• 1:02:21
  You know the dead coral. When you walk on the
• 1:02:24
  beach, you pick up a piece of dead coral. It's
• 1:02:27
  basically a rock with holes in it. That's what's
• 1:02:30
  underwater. It's just a big white block. There's
• 1:02:34
  a couple of strings of grass, seed grass, and
• 1:02:37
  a few fish here and there. You're, look,
• 1:02:41
  there's an angelfish. Okay, but there's supposed
• 1:02:43
  to be 50,000 of them, not two. And so they're
• 1:02:49
  gone, and it's 99.99 gone these days. You have
• 1:02:54
  to go to Bikini Atoll where they had the
• 1:02:56
  nuke tests in the Pacific or certain parts of
• 1:02:59
  Cuba where they're very careful about their
• 1:03:01
  about not overfishing and stuff. Even there, that
• 1:03:04
  because of the water temperatures changes, they're
• 1:03:07
  going to be gone. So should we care? Yeah, because
• 1:03:12
  basically they're the lungs of the ocean. The
• 1:03:14
  coral reef is what helps sustain and balance
• 1:03:18
  the ocean. So they're gone. They're toast. They're
• 1:03:22
  all going to be gone by the year 2075, according
• 1:03:24
  to the science. There's nothing we can do. They
• 1:03:27
  ain't coming back. And if the oceans
• 1:03:30
  are toast, even though we don't see them, they're
• 1:03:33
  three quarters of the planet. And I know
• 1:03:36
  I sound like Dr. Reese right now,
• 1:03:38
  but it's. We're in a world of pain, and
• 1:03:43
  this should be something that we are prioritizing.
• 1:03:46
  And we're not. We're not even talking about it.
• 1:03:48
  Yeah. Until people are economically sound,
• 1:03:53
  we won't be talking about it. Nope. Look,
• 1:03:56
  the reality of it is the reason why they
• 1:03:59
  make jokes about climate, people who care about
• 1:04:03
  the climate as left-wing loons and stuff
• 1:04:06
  that. I think it's partly because oftentimes
• 1:04:09
  those people need to be sound, they need
• 1:04:11
  to be secure. If my kid is not straight, do I
• 1:04:14
  really care about their oceans? And you can say,
• 1:04:16
  well, you should, but I'm going to say, well,
• 1:04:18
  I care more about my kid being able to eat. Yes,
• 1:04:23
  we should be able to walk and chew gum at the
• 1:04:24
  same time. Yes, we should care about this because
• 1:04:27
  we should want to leave a planet to the people
• 1:04:30
  who came after us, right? It's just kind of a
• 1:04:32
  responsibility issue. Plus if we're all if once
• 1:04:36
  our race is gone the human race then
• 1:04:40
  what are we? How much how meaningful was our existence
• 1:04:44
  after we're gone even less meaningful
• 1:04:47
  than it would be. Well, no, if that's
• 1:04:51
  the case then life doesn't matter in general.
• 1:04:53
  Yeah, humanity will blink out of existence at
• 1:04:56
  some point. Yeah, it's just everything dies.
• 1:04:59
  Yeah, but just because you die doesn't necessarily
• 1:05:02
  mean that the meaning is gone from it. Right.
• 1:05:06
  But when your species is gone, maybe the meaning,
• 1:05:08
  there's even less meaning, right? I don't think
• 1:05:11
  so. But if that's true, then life doesn't
• 1:05:13
  matter at all. Probably not. You will blink out
• 1:05:16
  at some point. I don't think life
• 1:05:18
  doesn't really have meaning.
• 1:05:21
  Life is just a fun ride that you just go on.
• 1:05:25
  No, you give it meaning. Conscious gives it meaning.
• 1:05:28
  Meaning the fact that a thing exists and that
• 1:05:30
  a thing can perceive gives it meaning. It gives
• 1:05:33
  it value. It doesn't have meaning in and of itself,
• 1:05:35
  but the meaning that the person gives it has
• 1:05:37
  to be enough. I think that's why people invoke
• 1:05:39
  God often. It feels like it's not enough for
• 1:05:42
  the individual, that it needs something external.
• 1:05:45
  It needs something else. But regardless of whether
• 1:05:48
  or not there's anything else, from a corporeal
• 1:05:50
  sense, the meaning is given to it by the entity
• 1:05:53
  that perceives. I guess my point is, if that's
• 1:05:57
  true, that humanity doesn't matter if it blinks
• 1:06:01
  out of existence. Then it just doesn't matter
• 1:06:02
  because it will blink out of existence at some
• 1:06:04
  point. Well, it will eventually, for sure. There's
• 1:06:07
  no question about that. Value has to be in what
• 1:06:09
  we give it. Which gives it more value, by the
• 1:06:12
  way. The fact that it's finite. Temporary. Yeah.
• 1:06:17
  Anirman Durake says, of course Ted and Jamarl
• 1:06:19
  are naive about Sacha Baron Cohen and his ilk.
• 1:06:23
  He's a freak who uses comedy to sell his racism
• 1:06:25
  and Israel. We accept that. We even said it.
• 1:06:31
  True. It's still funny. I'm not saying that it's
• 1:06:35
  good. I'm saying it's funny. Right. Yes, he's
• 1:06:38
  a Zionist. For God's sake, we accept
• 1:06:42
  it. Okay, so this is weird. I've got to read
• 1:06:48
  this. Two pieces of breaking news, both relating
• 1:06:52
  to America's principal conflicts. One, this one
• 1:06:56
  is involving Melania Trump, of all people. Melania
• 1:07:00
  has brokered an upcoming ceasefire between Russia
• 1:07:03
  and Ukraine in the city of Oleshky to allow for
• 1:07:07
  humanitarian aid and evacuation of civilians.
• 1:07:11
  The localized ceasefire is set to begin in six
• 1:07:14
  days, October 29th. The White House said that
• 1:07:18
  Melania initiated the discussions and that she
• 1:07:21
  and a representative worked directly with the
• 1:07:23
  Russian and Ukrainian leaderships to negotiate
• 1:07:26
  this. She said that she's made helping children
• 1:07:30
  in the conflict, one of her signature issues.
• 1:07:34
  Putin keeps bringing her up, and it's annoying.
• 1:07:38
  You think he's horny for her? No, I think he's
• 1:07:42
  trying to manipulate Trump. I think this is psychological.
• 1:07:45
  I think they've done psychological analysis,
• 1:07:47
  and from their point of view, flattering Trump
• 1:07:49
  is the way to go. Well, clearly, I don't need
• 1:07:53
  FSB psychologists to tell me that. Well, right,
• 1:07:57
  but Zelensky hadn't gotten the alert. Yeah. Because
• 1:08:02
  if you notice, he's antagonizing Trump over and
• 1:08:04
  over and over again, believing that the U.S.
• 1:08:06
  media and that the U.S. political establishment
• 1:08:08
  would be enough, or for that matter, that Democrats
• 1:08:10
  coming in would be enough to effectively allow
• 1:08:12
  him to keep going. And I think he's misperceiving
• 1:08:17
  that. Several months before Congress
• 1:08:19
  starts, even if Trump gets swamped, you still
• 1:08:24
  got three months. I like it happening three
• 1:08:26
  months, especially to somebody named Zelensky,
• 1:08:28
  who a lot of people don't like. With all of these
• 1:08:31
  Nazis and all of these other groups that are
• 1:08:33
  around in Ukraine. Zelensky better sleep with
• 1:08:36
  one eye open. Yeah, agreed with that. And over
• 1:08:41
  in Palestine, in a visit to Israeli-occupied
• 1:08:47
  Hebron, Netanyahu says he plans to carry out
• 1:08:51
  an extensive military operation in the West Bank,
• 1:08:55
  unlike any seen since the Six-Day War of 1967.
• 1:09:00
  He said that a swath of Hebron will be cleared
• 1:09:03
  of residence and demolished to do exactly what
• 1:09:07
  they did to the refugee camps in Jenin and Tul
• 1:09:11
  Karm. Yep, yeah. He's on a rebel base before
• 1:09:14
  the election. God, man, what's wild about that
• 1:09:18
  is that he knows they loved the killing. They
• 1:09:23
  loved the slaughter and the genocide. We loved
• 1:09:25
  it. There's been so much, but there's never enough.
• 1:09:28
  Yeah, there's never enough. We need to do it in
• 1:09:30
  the West Bank now. That's how I'm going to get
• 1:09:31
  elected. Yeah, if 90 or 80 of the public was
• 1:09:35
  yes, we love the killing of Muslims. We love
• 1:09:38
  you doing it. He's probably going to lose next
• 1:09:40
  week nevertheless, right? Yeah. So yeah,
• 1:09:45
  trying to wrap up his. I heard a report
• 1:09:48
  yesterday that of just pers that seven
• 1:09:53
  New Yorkers were among this. They just
• 1:09:56
  interviewed people randomly, were Israeli citizens
• 1:09:59
  who were flying back to Israel only to vote
• 1:10:03
  against Netanyahu because there's no absentee
• 1:10:06
  balloting in Israel and people hate Israel. They
• 1:10:09
  hate Netanyahu so much that they're willing to
• 1:10:12
  they're willing to spend thousands of dollars
• 1:10:14
  each to go vote against him. God bless them. Good
• 1:10:18
  for them. So self-hating Jews. Well, but
• 1:10:28
  Israelis, they're, they self-hating Jews.
• 1:10:30
  That's the way the line is. Assholes. No. Good
• 1:10:35
  on them. God bless them. Yeah. They're doing
• 1:10:37
  God's work. Hopefully we can get Professor Rahat
• 1:10:39
  to come back and explain exactly what that's
• 1:10:42
  going. That was very enlightening, I thought.
• 1:10:44
  Yeah. And by the way, I need to get the information
• 1:10:46
  for, what's his name? Oh, yeah. Okay. Remind
• 1:10:49
  me. What was his name? Oh, Thaddeus. Thaddeus
• 1:10:53
  Russell. Thaddeus. That's it. Thaddeus Russell.
• 1:10:56
  Thaddeus. General Thaddeus. It's such a good
• 1:10:59
  name. It's such a badass name. So good. Yeah,
• 1:11:03
  I wish my mom, wherever you are, why didn't you
• 1:11:07
  name me Thaddeus? All right, so we had a question
• 1:11:09
  about, we had a couple of questions about Ilhan
• 1:11:12
  Omar. We should probably talk about that. Let's
• 1:11:14
  hit that. So there's two main stories here. One
• 1:11:17
  is that she announced that she's leaving because
• 1:11:21
  of the federal raid against her house that happened
• 1:11:23
  at 4:30 in the morning. And she was careful
• 1:11:26
  to say that the FBI agents were individually
• 1:11:28
  well-behaved, I guess, except for knocking on
• 1:11:31
  her door at 4:30 in the morning, but that they
• 1:11:33
  were individually well-behaved. Apparently they
• 1:11:40
  were well-behaved. Yeah, exactly. But she's
• 1:11:45
  having to move out of her house because her address
• 1:11:49
  got reported in the international press. And
• 1:11:51
  now she says she's receiving all sorts of death
• 1:11:53
  threats at her home for her and her family. And
• 1:11:56
  she's moving out. I'm torn about that story.
• 1:12:00
  On the one hand, I'm, OK, so on
• 1:12:04
  the one hand, I totally see her concern. And
• 1:12:06
  obviously it's a terrible, they shouldn't have
• 1:12:08
  raided her house. It's disgusting and racist.
• 1:12:11
  Secondly, they should not have imperiled her
• 1:12:14
  family and they shouldn't have done this at all.
• 1:12:17
  On the other hand, should she have
• 1:12:21
  any special privileges that another citizen would
• 1:12:23
  have? Pardon? Let me hear you. What's going on?
• 1:12:28
  Do you not hear me? Test, test, test, test, test.
• 1:12:33
  Robbie, which one is it? Is it me or Ted? I hear
• 1:12:36
  Ted just fine. I hear both of y'all. I hear
• 1:12:39
  you too, Jamarl. I hear you. I hear both. Yeah, so
• 1:12:44
  I think probably tomorrow just needs to
• 1:12:47
  hit the refresh, so turn it off and turn
• 1:12:51
  it back on. Yeah, exactly. So
• 1:12:57
  my take on this Ilhan Omar thing is what
• 1:13:01
  I just said, but also should you be entitled to
• 1:13:04
  special privileges? If anybody is raided
• 1:13:07
  by the FBI, something this, or local police,
• 1:13:10
  your information, your digits can end
• 1:13:13
  up in public. Should she be protected from that?
• 1:13:18
  Or should any congressman, because she's a congressman,
• 1:13:21
  let's put Jamarl back in. Hey, how's it going
• 1:13:25
  now? Yes, much better. Cool, cool, cool. All
• 1:13:30
  right. So what I was saying is, should
• 1:13:32
  she get any special privileges because she's
• 1:13:34
  a congressman and because she's a Muslim? Well,
• 1:13:38
  it's not special privilege against
• 1:13:40
  having her information publicized. Yeah.
• 1:13:44
  Anybody would take issue with that. If
• 1:13:46
  you were if you said if somebody put out Ted's
• 1:13:51
  on notice and here's his address and phone number,
• 1:13:54
  you should give him a call. You have feelings
• 1:13:56
  about that shit. Oh, yeah. Especially with people
• 1:13:59
  showing up. It's, I want to see the tits,
• 1:14:01
  Ted. It's, oh, my God. You're going to call
• 1:14:03
  the cops, right? Dude shows up at your house.
• 1:14:06
  He's, show me the tits. A few months ago.
• 1:14:08
  Nobody's going to appreciate that. A few months
• 1:14:10
  ago. Y'all remember me telling y'all about
• 1:14:12
  this. A couple of fans of the show popped up
• 1:14:15
  here at my apartment. Yeah, but that's horrible.
• 1:14:17
  They came up and knocked on the door. That's
• 1:14:19
  not good. And by the way, there have been big
• 1:14:21
  YouTubers that have had wars over that shit.
• 1:14:24
  One YouTuber is going after another YouTuber
• 1:14:27
  and then one YouTuber shows up at the one, she
• 1:14:29
  shows up at the guy's house with her audience.
• 1:14:32
  It's, that's horrible. I've even seen YouTubers
• 1:14:35
  fighting outside of the audience members
• 1:14:37
  because the audience was raiding his house
• 1:14:39
  and having fireworks and shit thrown at
• 1:14:40
  his house. That is not good. Or calling the cops
• 1:14:44
  where they would have a raid where the cops would
• 1:14:46
  come to the house thinking that somebody's broken
• 1:14:48
  in. That's not good. Breaking news. Brent Crude
• 1:14:53
  has hit the all-time high just now of $116 a
• 1:14:57
  barrel, citing tensions in the Middle East and
• 1:14:59
  fears of a renewed conflict. I'm surprised it's
• 1:15:02
  so low. I'm surprised it's that low also. I'm
• 1:15:06
  shocked that it's that low. It should be $200.
• 1:15:08
  Because when we were driving, as you were
• 1:15:11
  driving by the different gas stations, you kind
• 1:15:14
  of get a sense of what the thing is. And my thing
• 1:15:17
  is, it's going up. Ansar Allah, they're hitting
• 1:15:19
  oil fields. Right? They're hitting
• 1:15:22
  oil fields directly. They're hitting pipelines
• 1:15:24
  directly. There's a gas station now in Eastern
• 1:15:25
  California that's now at $10 a gallon, and they're
• 1:15:28
  ordering new pumps. They're ordering new pumps
• 1:15:31
  to add a fourth digit to their pricing. That's
• 1:15:35
  insane. And by the way, this will be for the
• 1:15:38
  foreseeable future. It may not be at the highest
• 1:15:41
  price point, but it will be there for the foreseeable
• 1:15:43
  future. Oh, yeah. We're never going to see
• 1:15:45
  $3 again. Ever think of the number of tankers
• 1:15:48
  that were hit. Think of the number of fields that
• 1:15:50
  were hit. Saudi Arabia is hiding the amount of
• 1:15:52
  damage to take place. Qatar was hiding the amount
• 1:15:54
  of damage to take place according to the
• 1:15:56
  Bourse articles. Yeah, I have a friend who
• 1:15:59
  lives in L.A. He told me that the
• 1:16:02
  fuel prices have gone up so much in California
• 1:16:06
  for home residential heating and air conditioning.
• 1:16:09
  He has a normal apartment, a two-bedroom apartment,
• 1:16:12
  doesn't go crazy, doesn't have the AC blasting
• 1:16:16
  with the window open, nothing nuts. AC set at 77,
• 1:16:20
  not 67. His utility bill for last month for
• 1:16:26
  under a month was almost 600 bucks. And how much
• 1:16:31
  is your BTU rate now? The BTU rate in New York
• 1:16:35
  City is about seven cents a BTU, and he told me
• 1:16:39
  it's 58 cents now in the local utility.
• 1:16:44
  That's insane. That's Europe. Yeah. No bullshit.
• 1:16:48
  My wife and I, when we were in Czech Republic,
• 1:16:50
  it was freezing. And I remember the house was
• 1:16:56
  great, but it was freezing in Czech Republic.
• 1:16:59
  And so we cut the heat up to what we would as
• 1:17:01
  a normal American. And when we left, the woman
• 1:17:04
  hit us back and was, the heating bill is
• 1:17:07
  going to be $1,000. What have y'all been doing?
• 1:17:10
  Yeah. And it's, it's just normal heating.
• 1:17:12
  It ended up being 500. We paid the woman
• 1:17:14
  we paid the 500 dollars for a heating bill. It
• 1:17:18
  wasn't even a month, right? It's the
• 1:17:22
  cost of heating in Europe is insane, and I guess
• 1:17:26
  California is on that same trajectory.
• 1:17:28
  That's God, that's insane. How do you afford
• 1:17:31
  that? I used to think when I was living in DC
• 1:17:33
  how do people afford this on a normal? Speaking
• 1:17:35
  of money, guys, we haven't seen any donations in
• 1:17:38
  this entire show. Just saying. Really? But to get
• 1:17:42
  back to your point, Ted, about Omar, here's how
• 1:17:46
  I see it. If you choose to go into public life,
• 1:17:50
  whether you're a podcaster, YouTuber, member
• 1:17:52
  of Congress, president, whatever, you do not
• 1:17:57
  have any more rights than anybody else does.
• 1:17:59
  The Office of Public Records is a thing. Now,
• 1:18:01
  one thing that Omar has that no one else has
• 1:18:04
  is that she has the ability to pay for this thing
• 1:18:07
  called security. She has that choice. She's able
• 1:18:10
  to do that. She's not hurting. Talk about monetizing
• 1:18:15
  your job. She is very well off. She has no more
• 1:18:24
  right to privacy than anybody else. Neither does
• 1:18:28
  Thomas Massie or anybody else. Look, I'm not
• 1:18:30
  saying she has more of a right to privacy than
• 1:18:32
  anybody else. I'm saying, for one, the raid was
• 1:18:34
  fucked up. And two, any of us, including her,
• 1:18:38
  including any random right-winger, would take
• 1:18:39
  issue with them doxing her location. That's
• 1:18:42
  all. For one, the raid was politically
• 1:18:46
  motivated. There's that. The information that
• 1:18:49
  was put out, you don't think it was? I have no
• 1:18:52
  idea. I haven't been following it. Well, I strongly
• 1:18:55
  consider it being politically motivated. At least
• 1:18:57
  that's my motivating point of view. We
• 1:18:59
  know that she was investigated under the previous
• 1:19:02
  administration, too. Was that politically motivated?
• 1:19:05
  Yes. For being one of the most ineffective sellouts
• 1:19:10
  in Congress? What has the squad actually obstructed?
• 1:19:14
  What have they achieved? What have they accomplished
• 1:19:17
  other than renaming Mama Bear? Seriously, they've
• 1:19:21
  done nothing. They're not Thomas Massie. They've
• 1:19:24
  not obstructed anything. But they still don't
• 1:19:27
  like him. They're not on the same. They're disliked.
• 1:19:32
  The left is hated from the Democratic Party standpoint.
• 1:19:37
  I know from the right it doesn't seem that way,
• 1:19:39
  but the left is hated. And these people who Democrats
• 1:19:44
  consider to be the left, Ilhan Omar, AOC, et
• 1:19:48
  cetera, those people aren't accepted.
• 1:19:50
  AOC is kind of accepted, but not really.
• 1:19:58
  I just don't think they'd like her. They
• 1:19:59
  didn't even leap to her defense in any of those.
• 1:20:02
  Maybe a word statement by Hakeem Jeffries that
• 1:20:05
  was, it's kind of inane. Oh, this is
• 1:20:09
  bad by the Trump administration. But they're
• 1:20:12
  not stopping the process of government over it.
• 1:20:16
  They don't like her. Imagine if they tried to
• 1:20:19
  do this to, I don't know, Nancy Pelosi. They
• 1:20:22
  would flip out. They would lose their shit. At
• 1:20:25
  least I think so. Ilhan, less so. Maybe. Maybe
• 1:20:29
  I'm wrong. I think this is all the distraction.
• 1:20:36
  I think what this is, and I could be completely
• 1:20:38
  wrong on this, is that Trump is trying to change
• 1:20:41
  the topic. And he knows that the Democrats are
• 1:20:44
  going to win here in a couple of weeks. Here's
• 1:20:48
  some free publicity for me. Y'all get off my
• 1:20:50
  back on this whole Iran thing. But see, I don't
• 1:20:53
  think this is big enough to change the topic.
• 1:20:54
  I think this is just normal policy for Trump.
• 1:20:56
  When he was going after the African-American
• 1:20:58
  museum in D.C., I don't think he was trying
• 1:21:01
  to change the topic. I think he was just racist.
• 1:21:03
  The things that the administration is doing,
• 1:21:06
  especially if you're talking about people,
• 1:21:07
  what is his name? What is his name? The guy is
• 1:21:09
  a. He's an arch Zionist, but he's also
• 1:21:13
  they always call him a white nationalist.
• 1:21:15
  What is his name? He has a bald head, white guy
• 1:21:19
  in the Trump administration. You know him if
• 1:21:21
  you see him. Oh, Stephen. Stephen Miller. Miller.
• 1:21:24
  Yeah. Well, I was confused with Steve Miller
• 1:21:27
  from Abracadabra. Yeah, I don't think Donald
• 1:21:30
  Trump is moving the levers for this stuff.
• 1:21:34
  Stephen Miller, who's in this administration.
• 1:21:37
  I wouldn't be shocked if he's pushing some
• 1:21:39
  of the, hey. This is a consumption for Main Street.
• 1:21:48
  This is for the base of each party. That's what
• 1:21:53
  this is. This isn't about John Smith who works
• 1:21:56
  at Smith's Grocery Store. This is about Trump
• 1:22:00
  reaching out to the Republicans, and then he's
• 1:22:04
  giving a gift to Hakeem Jeffries saying, okay,
• 1:22:06
  here's something for you Democrats to kind of
• 1:22:09
  play with. Meanwhile, we'll work what we really
• 1:22:12
  want to talk about while they're squabbling over
• 1:22:14
  this hijab-wearing lady who may or may not have
• 1:22:17
  committed immigration fraud. See, I think in
• 1:22:20
  this case, a hammer is a hammer. They just want
• 1:22:22
  to get rid of her. But for what? She's ineffective.
• 1:22:26
  She's a Democrat. She's Muslim. So what?
• 1:22:29
  Just when I had the argument with the Muslim,
• 1:22:31
  with the Republican on air the other day. What
• 1:22:34
  did he bring up? Al-Said is working with the
• 1:22:37
  Muslim Brotherhood. They have a bee in their
• 1:22:39
  bonnet about Muslims. They don't like him. Omar
• 1:22:43
  is an easy target. She's a low-hanging fruit.
• 1:22:46
  So they're going after her, especially in the
• 1:22:47
  context of this race. They think they can make
• 1:22:49
  people think, well, she's not even an American
• 1:22:51
  citizen. She's having sex with her brother.
• 1:22:53
  She's blah, blah, blah. Maybe they can get her
• 1:22:55
  out of her seat. She is running against
• 1:22:57
  Republicans. Maybe, yeah. Who knows?
• 1:23:00
  But at the end of the day, I just think it's
• 1:23:01
  all theater. And to answer your question, Ted,
• 1:23:04
  she is not entitled to any other rights than
• 1:23:05
  anybody else's. Sorry. But what right?
• 1:23:08
  Robbie, if somebody, if you had a hundred. If
• 1:23:12
  I do a title search, can I find out where you
• 1:23:14
  live? Let's say your religious show got 500,000
• 1:23:17
  subs. And somebody doxed you. And you have people
• 1:23:22
  that were calling your house, saying bad things
• 1:23:24
  about you, bad things to your wife. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:23:27
  right. Satan is showing up saying, we don't like
• 1:23:28
  the fact that you have a show talking about this.
• 1:23:30
  Or Zion is showing up at your house, shooting
• 1:23:32
  your house up and shit. You would have
• 1:23:34
  feelings about that. And I would take issue with
• 1:23:36
  it also. And I would be saying the exact same
• 1:23:38
  thing. This is fucking outrageous. Y'all are
• 1:23:41
  talking this is that this has happened.
• 1:23:43
  Ted, what happened last November? Remind me.
• 1:23:48
  When you and John Kiriakou were here on this
• 1:23:51
  show, what happened to yours truly? Oh, yeah.
• 1:23:53
  Well, we got, well, you got doxxed. Yeah. So
• 1:23:57
  this doesn't happen. But that doesn't make it
• 1:24:01
  right. Of course it's not right. But the fact
• 1:24:03
  is, though, is that if I can get doxxed and if
• 1:24:06
  you can get doxxed and if Ted can get doxxed,
• 1:24:09
  then someone who's in government who is actively
• 1:24:13
  involved in passing laws does not make you immune,
• 1:24:17
  especially if you have an amount of power and
• 1:24:20
  an amount of privilege that no one else in this
• 1:24:24
  country has. So what? You can afford security.
• 1:24:29
  She's perfectly fine. I'm not saying she doesn't
• 1:24:32
  have the power to get doxed. Anybody has the power
• 1:24:34
  to get doxed. I'm saying it's wrong. Of course
• 1:24:38
  it's wrong, but it happens. Who cares? Abortion's
• 1:24:40
  wrong, yet here we are. Well, I don't think abortion's
• 1:24:42
  wrong. That's your take. I'm just making the
• 1:24:44
  point of saying all sorts of things can happen.
• 1:24:46
  It doesn't mean that it should. And again, from
• 1:24:48
  your point of view, abortion can happen. We're
• 1:24:49
  going into a DeProgrammed repetition loop. I
• 1:24:54
  got it. We got it. For example, if people show
• 1:25:00
  up and have a house of a Supreme Court justice
• 1:25:02
  and they're protesting, is that doxing? Is that
• 1:25:07
  wrong? It's kind of doxing. Is it wrong to show
• 1:25:11
  up outside of a house of an elected official
• 1:25:14
  holding up signs, raising hell, saying we oppose
• 1:25:16
  what you're doing? I think it's icky. It's a
• 1:25:19
  yes or no question. It's not illegal. It's not
• 1:25:22
  illegal. But maybe it should be. If their home
• 1:25:25
  is hidden, then how can you do that? I feel
• 1:25:29
  you have a right. You should have a right to
• 1:25:31
  security in your own home. I really do think
• 1:25:33
  that. In your home, yeah. Outside your home,
• 1:25:35
  not so much. I think spaces are public spaces.
• 1:25:38
  You can hire bodyguards. You'll be fine. She's
• 1:25:40
  okay. Okay. Well, again, my point hasn't changed.
• 1:25:45
  We have more important things. That's just not
• 1:25:48
  right. Let's talk about those more important
• 1:25:50
  things. Yeah. It's not about her. Okay. So the
• 1:25:54
  New York Post, this is stuff that's only in right
• 1:25:56
  -wing media. And I think one of the things that's
• 1:25:59
  good about this show is that we don't just
• 1:26:02
  follow left-wing or right-wing media. We try
• 1:26:04
  to get everything from everywhere. The New York
• 1:26:08
  Post has a bee in their bonnet about Ilhan Omar.
• 1:26:11
  They say that she's been using a fake name, that
• 1:26:16
  Ilhan Omar is not her real name, that she has
• 1:26:20
  an identical surname to that of her former husband
• 1:26:23
  and supposed rumored brother. According to federal
• 1:26:27
  prosecutors, they filed documents in federal
• 1:26:29
  court in Minneapolis saying that she is Ilhan
• 1:26:32
  Nur Syed Elmi, E-L-M-I, a.k.a. Ilhan Abdullani
• 1:26:38
  Omar, which legal experts and officials tell
• 1:26:43
  the New York Post is indicative in terms of the
• 1:26:47
  evidence that has been compiled so far. A source
• 1:26:51
  close to the investigation confirmed that Omar
• 1:26:54
  is not her real last name, meaning she was born
• 1:26:56
  with the last name of Elmi, just her former
• 1:27:00
  husband and obviously former husband, but also
• 1:27:03
  possible brother. Attorney General Todd Blanch
• 1:27:07
  said, I don't think U.S. District, U.S. attorneys
• 1:27:11
  would make up names when being asked about this.
• 1:27:14
  Evidence that's collected is used in motions.
• 1:27:17
  She has denied the assertion that the accusation
• 1:27:22
  that she buried, that she married her brother.
• 1:27:26
  And now there's new breaking news from the New
• 1:27:29
  York Post, saying that basically there's more
• 1:27:33
  evidence that's emerging. Now, what happened
• 1:27:36
  is she married Elmi. She's 45 years old. She
• 1:27:39
  married this guy who's now 41, Elmi. He's a UK
• 1:27:42
  citizen back in 2009. They got divorced nine
• 1:27:47
  years ago in 2017. As I speculated here on the
• 1:27:51
  program, it turns out to be confirmed a lot of
• 1:27:53
  her Somali paperwork was destroyed due to
• 1:27:57
  the conflict there, the long-standing conflict.
• 1:28:00
  So her mom is said to have died when she was
• 1:28:04
  young. Her family is split up with one branch
• 1:28:07
  in the UK, one in the US. Elmi's parentage is not
• 1:28:10
  known, but he lived in London with Laila Noor
• 1:28:13
  Saeed, a Somali who is believed to be Omar's
• 1:28:17
  sister who may have raised him. This is all complicated.
• 1:28:20
  A UK marriage certificate from 97 for Laila lists
• 1:28:24
  her dad as Noor Saeed Elmi, a military officer
• 1:28:28
  from Somalia. Omar's late father, Noor Omar Mohammed,
• 1:28:33
  also went by the name Noor Said Elmi and was
• 1:28:36
  a military commander in the Somali government.
• 1:28:40
  Sources tell the New York Post they think the
• 1:28:42
  person named on the British legal document is
• 1:28:45
  Noor Omar's dad. Omar's dad also went by Noor
• 1:28:49
  Said on Facebook. He died of COVID at the age
• 1:28:54
  of 67 in June of 2020. At that time, messages
• 1:28:58
  were left to Noor Said Elmi. It goes on
• 1:29:03
  this and there's basically the idea is that the
• 1:29:08
  immigration fraud that is alleged here could
• 1:29:11
  relate to not accurately
• 1:29:16
  reporting her lineage or her own name or her
• 1:29:21
  age. Basically that there might have been
• 1:29:24
  a number of problems with her immigration documents
• 1:29:28
  when she arrived here in the U.S. and obviously
• 1:29:32
  they would like to try to deport her, right? It
• 1:29:37
  sounds there's smoke here, right?
• 1:29:41
  Clearly something's up. I don't know how.
• 1:29:44
  I don't know. I still think it's disgusting
• 1:29:48
  because this is definitely Beria,
• 1:29:51
  the NKVD Soviet leader who famously said, you
• 1:29:55
  show me the man, I'll find you the crime. Everyone's
• 1:29:58
  done something. And they decided
• 1:30:01
  to target her because they didn't
• 1:30:03
  they thought she's going to be a convenient.
• 1:30:06
  She's a lefty. The Democrats won't stand up for
• 1:30:08
  her. She wears a funny scarf. We'll be able to
• 1:30:12
  play the race card in the midterms. And we'll
• 1:30:15
  but so they're threatening
• 1:30:17
  her with deportation, basically, and denaturalization.
• 1:30:21
  It's not like she's pure as
• 1:30:24
  the driven snow. Yeah, but this is the FBI politically
• 1:30:27
  motivated going after somebody. This is no different
• 1:30:29
  than going after Trump. If the FBI can
• 1:30:32
  be used this, there's problems.
• 1:30:34
  When they got Nixon and stopped Nixon from
• 1:30:37
  using the IRS and they put the bar between the
• 1:30:39
  president and the IRS, some shit that needs
• 1:30:41
  to be put in for the FBI because this is fucking
• 1:30:43
  outrageous. Again, I was against it.
• 1:30:46
  I'm consistent on this. I was against it when
• 1:30:48
  they were going after Trump with the FBI saying
• 1:30:50
  this is. Fucking outrageous. You're trying to
• 1:30:52
  get the man for hush money payment to a porn
• 1:30:54
  star. It's funny, but what the hell? Hillary
• 1:30:58
  Clinton didn't go through this when she had the
• 1:31:00
  whole legal fees thing and her thing. They just
• 1:31:03
  gave her a slap on the wrist. They didn't even
• 1:31:05
  give Trump a slap on the wrist at one point.
• 1:31:07
  And then they turn around and decide we're going
• 1:31:09
  to make this a felony. OK, again, that's outrageous.
• 1:31:13
  Right. And I feel the same thing about this.
• 1:31:15
  Just the first impeachment. Again, I'm consistent.
• 1:31:18
  I thought it was outrageous. How are you going
• 1:31:20
  after the guy for impeachment for a phone call?
• 1:31:23
  They really could be going after Trump right
• 1:31:24
  now for monetizing the presidency or going after
• 1:31:26
  Jared Kushner for the reports that have came
• 1:31:28
  out about them or going after, what, Susan Collins
• 1:31:32
  for the shit that came out about her in regards
• 1:31:34
  to ProPublica and the other piece against, what
• 1:31:37
  was the other one? It was two or three that Trump
• 1:31:38
  got rid of in the very beginning when he got
• 1:31:40
  in the office to start crushing the FBI.
• 1:31:43
  This is politically motivated. Clearly. Which
• 1:31:46
  is my issue. As you pointed out, there's all
• 1:31:50
  sorts of stuff that might be going on with Ilhan
• 1:31:52
  Omar just because of the process she went through
• 1:31:55
  to get into the United States. I have no idea.
• 1:31:58
  Do I trust this FBI to get to the bottom of it?
• 1:32:02
  I do not. A question here is,
• 1:32:05
  OK, so, yeah, I'm familiar with this
• 1:32:07
  process. It's sort of when the LAPD
• 1:32:11
  owned the LA Times and they decided to go after
• 1:32:13
  me. And man. They dug so far deep into everything
• 1:32:17
  every cartoon I've ever drawn, everything I've
• 1:32:20
  ever done, every step I take, every move they'll
• 1:32:23
  be watching me and they watch me and they were
• 1:32:25
  and they found they dug up the most outlandish
• 1:32:29
  some true some not true and they try to
• 1:32:32
  spit it out I'm a bad guy. Published
• 1:32:35
  any of this if they weren't out to get me, right?
• 1:32:38
  Unfortunately in this country there are no legal
• 1:32:42
  protections whatsoever to a politically motivated
• 1:32:45
  prosecution. I believe there should be a constitutional
• 1:32:49
  amendment that does protect you from that.
• 1:32:51
  If they find, if it's a political, I'm going
• 1:32:55
  to go this far. If they decide they don't
• 1:32:58
  you because you wrote a letter to the editor
• 1:33:00
  and then they dig into you and they find as a
• 1:33:03
  result of that investigation that you murdered
• 1:33:05
  someone, you should walk. Because an investigation
• 1:33:10
  should never be prompted by a politically motivated,
• 1:33:15
  political motivation. If they, now if a cop's
• 1:33:18
  I think Ted Rall did it and objectively
• 1:33:21
  investigates and finds that I did it, great,
• 1:33:24
  send me to prison. But do not, but political
• 1:33:27
  investigation should be the fruit of the poisoned
• 1:33:31
  tree. If you just decide. I'm going
• 1:33:34
  after Jamarl Thomas and I'm going to turn his
• 1:33:37
  life inside out. I'm going to fucking go into
• 1:33:40
  all of his bank accounts. I'm going to read all
• 1:33:42
  his mail. I'm going to find what I can find.
• 1:33:45
  And then I'm going to come up with whatever charges
• 1:33:46
  I can. That's bullshit. Problem. Who's the king
• 1:33:52
  in order to make the determination that it's
• 1:33:55
  politically motivated? The judge, the court.
• 1:33:57
  Because the reality of it is you have two political
• 1:34:00
  parties, both equal, both. Meaning the moment
• 1:34:04
  that you get in, yeah, I think this was politically
• 1:34:06
  motivated the moment I get in. Well, it's an imperfect
• 1:34:08
  thing, but at least with courts you have a lot
• 1:34:12
  of different. Let's just say you go to
• 1:34:14
  court and you're, listen, I shouldn't be prosecuted,
• 1:34:16
  your honor, because this was a politically motivated
• 1:34:18
  prosecution and they rule against you because
• 1:34:21
  they themselves are in, but at least you have
• 1:34:24
  a bunch of you can keep appealing. You
• 1:34:27
  can have a bunch of different people presumably
• 1:34:30
  sometimes with different political points of
• 1:34:32
  view and you might have a shot at justice eventually.
• 1:34:36
  It's an imperfect. I don't see who else could
• 1:34:40
  do it. It has to be. I get your point and I agree
• 1:34:43
  with. I think the political motivated stuff is
• 1:34:44
  insane. Random per shutting down bank
• 1:34:48
  accounts, debanking for example. Yeah. I don't
• 1:34:50
  the politics, so I'm going to shut down
• 1:34:51
  your bank accounts. Yeah, the Canadian truckers.
• 1:34:54
  We're going to freeze them. Yeah, it's insane,
• 1:34:57
  right? I don't know. I agree with you, kind of.
• 1:35:00
  I just don't know how that works. It'll be just
• 1:35:02
  back and forth. Yeah. Put it this way.
• 1:35:06
  They will require good faith, but you would need
• 1:35:08
  that if you had good faith. Right. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:35:13
  Lack of good faith is why this is a problem.
• 1:35:16
  Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how that works. We just
• 1:35:19
  need to be better people. So let me continue
• 1:35:22
  a little bit about just so people
• 1:35:24
  really understand. So back in 2020 a blogger
• 1:35:30
  told the Daily Mail that he knew Omar when the
• 1:35:33
  two were growing up in Minnesota and that she
• 1:35:36
  introduced at the time, Ilhan Omar introduced
• 1:35:39
  Elmi as her brother from London to fellow Somali
• 1:35:43
  community members back in the aughts. Omar allegedly
• 1:35:46
  told people at the time that her brother was
• 1:35:49
  looking for papers, immigration documents.
• 1:35:52
  Nobody knew there had been a wedding to Elmi
• 1:35:54
  until the media turned up the marriage certificate
• 1:35:58
  years later. The blogger claimed that Elmi was
• 1:36:02
  ordered to come to the US from the UK by his
• 1:36:05
  dad, who discovered that he had been living,
• 1:36:07
  I love this part, a decadent and immoral life
• 1:36:10
  in London. People began noticing that Ilhan and
• 1:36:16
  Hersey were often with a very effeminate young
• 1:36:19
  guy. He was very feminine in the way he dressed.
• 1:36:22
  He would wear tight, light lipstick and pink
• 1:36:24
  clothes and very, very short shorts in the summer.
• 1:36:28
  Her brother? Her brother? The brother. Here,
• 1:36:33
  let me put up... They're trying to say she's
• 1:36:35
  a bit of a lesbian also. Not just marrying her
• 1:36:38
  brother. Well, I think it's kind of she
• 1:36:40
  married, she basically, she was his beard and
• 1:36:44
  basically it was a fake marriage. The ousting
• 1:36:48
  to America was meant to rehab him and de-gay
• 1:36:51
  him. But after his marriage to Omar, Elmi left
• 1:36:55
  the US and returned to the UK where he continued
• 1:36:58
  to live his flamboyant life. And his decadent
• 1:37:03
  and moral life, he went back to... Yeah, there's
• 1:37:06
  a picture of him in Facebook, which it's totally
• 1:37:11
  worth showing. And therefore, it shall be shown.
• 1:37:15
  It will be shown. There's no way on DeProgram
• 1:37:19
  that we will not show you this. All right, so
• 1:37:21
  here we go. This is so wrong. I know, it's so
• 1:37:26
  wrong. So here we go. Decadent in her whole life,
• 1:37:29
  and that they brought him here to the U.S. She
• 1:37:32
  married him. He was in booty shorts and he got
• 1:37:34
  sick of being in the U.S. because he was trying
• 1:37:37
  to be degayed and he went back. For one
• 1:37:40
  thing, where's the marriage certificate if indeed
• 1:37:42
  they got married? Yep. Because all of this
• 1:37:45
  sounds it was coming from a blogger which
• 1:37:47
  it's okay. All right, there he is. There he
• 1:37:51
  is. Those are his booty shorts. Yeah, those aren't
• 1:37:56
  booty shorts. Well, he's not
• 1:38:01
  the glitter and green or something. Man,
• 1:38:06
  holy shit. That's Layla Noor Saeed, Omar's sister.
• 1:38:11
  She is not ugly. That's Noor Omar Mohammed, the
• 1:38:17
  dad who died of COVID. And there's the brother.
• 1:38:24
  That she was supposed to have married. He's very
• 1:38:26
  pretty. That's wearing a durag from China. Uh
• 1:38:30
  -huh. Ali, sir. The doer is from China. You're
• 1:38:34
  made in China. This is coming from a blogger.
• 1:38:40
  Why should I take this seriously? And
• 1:38:42
  he says that he's a so-called, he calls himself
• 1:38:44
  a dirty dandy. Yeah, it's from a blogger. A dirty
• 1:38:47
  dandy? What is a dirty dandy? A dirty dandy.
• 1:38:50
  Oh, that's a British term. Dandy is probably
• 1:38:53
  going to be a British term. Oh, yeah, yeah. This
• 1:38:55
  is coming from a blogger. And this puts me to
• 1:38:57
  mind of the birth certificate for Obama. Oh,
• 1:39:02
  totally. No, it's birtherism all over again.
• 1:39:04
  It's here's another black person or another
• 1:39:07
  person of color. We don't believe that you belong
• 1:39:10
  here. Your American heritage. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:39:15
  I don't until this is proven. I don't take this
• 1:39:20
  as being anything. If I'm being honest, I agree
• 1:39:23
  with that. I would just say it's worth noting
• 1:39:25
  because it's in the top. Yeah. There's
• 1:39:29
  this is not going to just go away.
• 1:39:31
  I think. Oh, I accept that. They're going to
• 1:39:33
  try to prosecute and put you out of the country.
• 1:39:35
  But until they have some kind of smoking gun,
• 1:39:37
  keep in mind, this is the same administration
• 1:39:38
  that charged the people for the water in front
• 1:39:42
  of the Capitol. And they came up with
• 1:39:44
  all these charges and everything else, and then
• 1:39:46
  finally when they get into court, it's
• 1:39:47
  yeah, we just kind of made shit up. This
• 1:39:51
  is the same administration. This is the same
• 1:39:54
  one that went after Comey and had a misspelling
• 1:39:57
  in the documentation when they went after Comey.
• 1:39:59
  Oh, over the seashells? Yeah. Well, the what
• 1:40:04
  is the thing? The lake, not the lake, the pool
• 1:40:07
  outside of the reflecting pool where they put
• 1:40:10
  those people. They were prosecuting the people
• 1:40:12
  saying that the people had pulled something down
• 1:40:13
  or ripped something. And then when they finally
• 1:40:15
  got into it, they found it was the construction
• 1:40:17
  that was just fucked up. It wasn't anybody that
• 1:40:20
  did anything malicious. And it was I think it
• 1:40:25
  was Comey that they went after and they had
• 1:40:27
  a misspelling or something in the court documents.
• 1:40:30
  Look, all I'm saying is I am skeptical of this
• 1:40:32
  up to the point where it's proven and demonstrated.
• 1:40:35
  They have a clear intent, a clear bias. So that
• 1:40:37
  makes me very skeptical of what they're doing.
• 1:40:41
  But I agree, there's smoke. I accept there's
• 1:40:44
  smoke. There's not a syllable there that I would
• 1:40:45
  take issue with. You're totally right. But I
• 1:40:48
  accept there's smoke. By the way, thanks for
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  your support, guys. Appreciate it. Peter Ive,
• 1:40:52
  nothing to say here, but I'll give you a couple
• 1:40:54
  of bucks. And we do appreciate that. Pbreeding.
• 1:40:58
  Thanks for the $10 and thanks for your complimentary
• 1:41:00
  good morning. Love the show. Thank you to DeadMemeClub
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  for the $20. Happy Friday, Robby. Let's play
• 1:41:10
  Mecha Chameleon. All of Europe and Southeast
• 1:41:12
  Asia are going to freeze, starve to death this
• 1:41:14
  winter. How can we prep for $10 gallons of gas
• 1:41:17
  even in Texas, Louisiana, and Oklahoma? You don't
• 1:41:21
  prep for it. It's not going to hit $10. What's
• 1:41:23
  going to happen is businesses are going to go
• 1:41:25
  belly up, which is going to depress the price
• 1:41:27
  of gas. Meaning if, let's say if 10% of your
• 1:41:31
  businesses go belly up, then you don't need 10
• 1:41:33
  % of gas for those businesses, in which case
• 1:41:34
  the number goes down. Robby put up a Trump Truth
• 1:41:38
  Social post. Iran is doing everything they can
• 1:41:42
  do, they can, to drive up the price of oil prior
• 1:41:45
  to the US midterm election. They're even making
• 1:41:47
  up fake hits, mines, and everything else. Because
• 1:41:51
  more oil is coming through the Hormuz Strait
• 1:41:54
  now than it did even prior to the beginning of
• 1:41:57
  the conflict. It's not. It's so outlandish. Three
• 1:42:00
  ships went through. By the way, the week before
• 1:42:02
  last, more ships went through. When that was
• 1:42:05
  being reported, Iran started hitting ships. Yeah,
• 1:42:07
  they hit seven ships recently, right? Yeah. It
• 1:42:09
  was three ships that went through. And they
• 1:42:11
  hit two yesterday. And there's pictures.
• 1:42:13
  Yes. There are images. There are videos of ships
• 1:42:16
  getting hit in the Strait of Hormuz. They're
• 1:42:19
  not going through. No. And the shipping companies
• 1:42:23
  have confirmed that, right? Yes. Sorry, Mr. President.
• 1:42:26
  We know you're full of shit. But it's
• 1:42:28
  wild that he's lying. He's, they're trying
• 1:42:30
  to drive the price up. What he doesn't get is
• 1:42:33
  that strategy. We've got to talk about – okay,
• 1:42:37
  well, we'll wrap up with the main topic, which
• 1:42:40
  is, of course, the rise of the left. But let's
• 1:42:44
  just quickly – what do you make of the
• 1:42:47
  fact that – President Trump and J.D. Vance,
• 1:42:50
  the vice president, are running around the country
• 1:42:52
  telling disaster victims, in North Carolina,
• 1:42:55
  in Asheville, who got washed away by flooding
• 1:42:59
  over a year ago, you're only going to get FEMA
• 1:43:03
  money if the Republicans retain the House and
• 1:43:08
  the Senate. Otherwise, no money for you.
• 1:43:11
  Literally, Trump's been doing that, and he's
• 1:43:14
  it's my little joke. My little joke. He
• 1:43:19
  should be impeached for that. I agree. Even Republicans
• 1:43:22
  should impeach him for that. He's the president
• 1:43:24
  of the United States of America. There is no
• 1:43:26
  red and blue America to take from a moment. It
• 1:43:30
  doesn't matter. During Hurricane Sandy, it was
• 1:43:35
  Chris Christie. If Montana got hit by a hurricane,
• 1:43:38
  I wouldn't say, well, that's a Republican state.
• 1:43:40
  Fuck Montana. Right. That's outrageous.
• 1:43:42
  Who would do that? It's even shocking that
• 1:43:44
  a president would even do that. If Florida
• 1:43:46
  gets hit and DeSantis is governor. I'm not looking
• 1:43:50
  at that thinking to myself, oh, now I can
• 1:43:53
  knuckle DeSantis under for the money. It's
• 1:43:56
  Florida. It's part of the United States. It's
• 1:43:58
  one country. He doesn't quite seem to understand
• 1:44:00
  it. That's fucking outrageous. Meaning that
• 1:44:02
  should not be tolerated. It's amazing that that
• 1:44:04
  gets tolerated today. And that says something
• 1:44:06
  about our politics, that the president will even
• 1:44:09
  venture to say that. Imagine if Obama said that.
• 1:44:12
  The crispy green crispy Christie. Yeah, though he
• 1:44:15
  did. Yeah, he did not look. Yeah, Chris Christie
• 1:44:17
  in New Jersey during Hurricane Sandy.
• 1:44:21
  He Chris Christie was very complimentary to Obama
• 1:44:24
  and said that he was that Obama reached
• 1:44:26
  out. It was, what can we do? Yeah,
• 1:44:29
  because we're Americans, right? Your political
• 1:44:31
  affiliation doesn't change the fact that you're
• 1:44:34
  an American. At least to me, it doesn't. That's
• 1:44:36
  what I mean. It has to be something beyond our
• 1:44:37
  politics. But think about how crazy it is. He's
• 1:44:40
  telling North Carolinians, for example, who,
• 1:44:43
  let's just say, may very well themselves vote
• 1:44:46
  Republican. They probably will, right? Or at
• 1:44:49
  least a certain, maybe not this year,
• 1:44:51
  but they usually do, right? And it's, okay,
• 1:44:55
  so you're going to a Republican state, even,
• 1:44:57
  and you're telling them, okay, you guys might
• 1:45:00
  vote for us. But if the rest of the country doesn't,
• 1:45:03
  oh, well, nothing for you. It's the teacher
• 1:45:04
  punishing the entire class for the sins of one
• 1:45:07
  student. Yo, no, I agree with you, but this is
• 1:45:10
  not even a sin. Voting against Donald Trump is
• 1:45:12
  not a sin. It's just a vote. I wouldn't argue
• 1:45:15
  it's a good situation. I want the Democrats
• 1:45:21
  to impeach Donald Trump. It needs to be just
• 1:45:24
  as a restraint for the next president coming
• 1:45:26
  forward doing the same shit. There has
• 1:45:28
  to be consequences for the what? Trump is doing
• 1:45:31
  in that office. He's murdering a lot of
• 1:45:33
  people abroad. He's thrown a world leader into
• 1:45:36
  the gulag and yes he is monetizing the presidency
• 1:45:40
  to the tune of billions of dollars and his sons
• 1:45:42
  and Witkoff is doing the same thing. That's outrageous.
• 1:45:45
  In the idea there's no consequences
• 1:45:48
  of that. There should be consequences. The rub
• 1:45:50
  is I don't even believe Democrats would do it.
• 1:45:52
  They may impeach you but it's going to be
• 1:45:54
  on something that they themselves won't run afoul
• 1:45:57
  of which is not the same thing or giving me what
• 1:46:02
  I want in this particular situation. No, I agree
• 1:46:04
  with you. It's outrageous. The idea of a
• 1:46:08
  president saying to Americans, not red and blue,
• 1:46:11
  Americans, hey, if you don't vote for me, you're
• 1:46:15
  not going to get the relief that you're required
• 1:46:17
  by law to get or by government to get. I'm not
• 1:46:21
  going to do my job. That's insane. That is so
• 1:46:25
  insane. And I hope. I hope right-wingers understand
• 1:46:31
  this. This is not a Democrat or Republican issue.
• 1:46:33
  It's an American issue. It's foul.
• 1:46:36
  The crazy ad that Ramaswamy is
• 1:46:41
  running in Ohio. Yes. It's
• 1:46:45
  just wrong, no matter where you stand politically.
• 1:46:47
  And by the way, Donald Trump is urging
• 1:46:51
  Ramaswamy to keep running those ads. I wonder
• 1:46:54
  if it's really going to be
• 1:46:57
  because... Again, you and I differ on this one.
• 1:47:01
  That ad works in the right context. I think it's
• 1:47:05
  contextual. I think tracking polls are showing
• 1:47:07
  already, though, that this is the beginning of
• 1:47:09
  Ramaswamy's finished now. No, I accept that.
• 1:47:12
  But again, the ad is gross. It's so gross. It's
• 1:47:17
  you chose a man that raped your daughter
• 1:47:20
  and you're out here attacking your daughter in
• 1:47:24
  defense of this man. Yeah. Now, that looks bad.
• 1:47:30
  Just fat on its face. Yeah, and the thing is
• 1:47:32
  also, this is not the Jane Doe
• 1:47:36
  case at Cornell, which has some complexity and
• 1:47:38
  some ambiguity attached to it, the three
• 1:47:41
  -week delay between the time of the incident
• 1:47:43
  and the time that it was reported. This is
• 1:47:45
  really easy to understand. She hasn't spoken
• 1:47:49
  to her mom since 1978. Really? She's completely...
• 1:47:54
  Yeah. 47 years? How old is she? She's
• 1:47:59
  about my age. She didn't look that old. She's
• 1:48:01
  about my age. Ohioans. Wow, she didn't look that
• 1:48:04
  old. And I think she's 61. I guess she's getting
• 1:48:09
  close to my age range because I'm 49 now. I'm
• 1:48:11
  nearly 50. Yeah, yeah. So she's 11 years old.
• 1:48:14
  Welcome aboard. Yeah, I know, right? I know,
• 1:48:17
  right? Don't worry. It takes some pain to only
• 1:48:20
  get better. So, yeah, no, it was definitely
• 1:48:24
  yeah. And her brother, very...
• 1:48:28
  also hasn't spoken to their mom. And also
• 1:48:31
  there's contemporaneous police records.
• 1:48:34
  Local police. No.
• 1:48:39
  Yeah. Yeah. You can do that, but you got to find
• 1:48:41
  something else. It has to be something else.
• 1:48:43
  She beat her mom up or something. It would
• 1:48:46
  have to be something where the public would
• 1:48:48
  be, oh, she's a horrible person. It's got
• 1:48:50
  to be unambiguous, right? Yeah, it does. It can't
• 1:48:54
  be this. This is too gross. It's so disgusting.
• 1:48:57
  I think it's the worst, the grossest
• 1:49:00
  political ad I've ever heard of in my life. I
• 1:49:03
  think the Ron Burt, the news thing,
• 1:49:07
  which one? Oh, what is his name? What is his
• 1:49:10
  name? The comedian. I want to say Ron Burgundy,
• 1:49:13
  but Will Ferrell. Short of that. I've never seen
• 1:49:15
  him. But that's not real. Right. It's so.
• 1:49:21
  Michael Dukakis really did pardon that guy.
• 1:49:24
  Right. This is this
• 1:49:26
  is not true. And it's so scurrilous.
• 1:49:30
  This is. Even when you look
• 1:49:34
  at the early the anti-Jeffersonian
• 1:49:36
  newspapers and the Sally Hemings stuff. Well,
• 1:49:39
  the Sally Hemings stuff was true. So it's kind
• 1:49:43
  of it was scurrilous, but at least it was
• 1:49:45
  true. It's scurrilous and it's a lie. Yeah, but
• 1:49:49
  the sexual assault is just gross. Yeah. It's
• 1:49:52
  just gross. It's meaning it's gross on
• 1:49:54
  top of anything else. And Vance is going around.
• 1:49:57
  And by the way, speaking of, you mentioned
• 1:49:59
  Chris Christie. Chris Christie is one of the
• 1:50:01
  best. He was a terrible governor, left with a
• 1:50:03
  10% approval rating. But he's a great mainstream
• 1:50:07
  corporatist political analyst.
• 1:50:10
  And he was saying that he was asked about Vance
• 1:50:13
  defending this ad, which he has. And he said,
• 1:50:16
  oh. Vance said, oh, we should
• 1:50:20
  don't whinge about that ad. There's nothing wrong
• 1:50:22
  with that ad. I think that's a Republican point
• 1:50:24
  of view. Never apologize. And then never apologize.
• 1:50:27
  He should have just not commented on it really,
• 1:50:29
  but he said Chris Christie said Vance
• 1:50:31
  needs to. It is needs to cure the illness in
• 1:50:35
  the GOP and this is not that. And I kind
• 1:50:38
  of know what he's saying. In other words,
• 1:50:40
  the illness that the sort of the depravity that
• 1:50:43
  Trump has introduced and mainstreamed in the
• 1:50:45
  Republican Party. As if it wasn't already there.
• 1:50:48
  Oh, for sure. Well, it's all messaging, right?
• 1:50:51
  It's, we were pure as the driven snow. Trump
• 1:50:54
  is the problem. By the way, just a little announcement.
• 1:50:57
  No DMZ America podcast today. I know it's been
• 1:50:59
  two weeks in a row. That's because Scott Stantz
• 1:51:01
  is traveling. So we'll be back, not next week,
• 1:51:05
  but the week after. By the way, I want to take
• 1:51:07
  a vacation for a few days next week. All right.
• 1:51:09
  I don't know where I'm going yet, but I'm going
• 1:51:11
  somewhere. Which days? It's probably about three
• 1:51:16
  or four. I should be back on third. Let me know.
• 1:51:18
  All right. We'll do. We'll figure it out. Yeah. Come
• 1:51:22
  to Montana. I'll give you the tour. Really? Yeah.
• 1:51:25
  It is beautiful. I'm dead sure. I was initially
• 1:51:29
  thinking, okay, well, you can do the show from there
• 1:51:32
  then. Well, I want time off. I want to write
• 1:51:36
  and I want space to be able to write and enhance
• 1:51:41
  the will of the show. I don't really have time
• 1:51:42
  to do it. Totally. Montana would be nice. Look,
• 1:51:47
  I'll tell you what I want. What I was looking
• 1:51:49
  for was a cabin by the mountains, by the ocean,
• 1:51:52
  or by the lake, or a pond. That's what I was
• 1:51:55
  looking for. I have not found that yet. There
• 1:51:57
  must be such things. There is a place, I think
• 1:52:01
  they're still open, called Alpine Lodge. It's
• 1:52:05
  in Glacier National Park. It's in Apgar Village.
• 1:52:08
  I think they're still open. It's right there
• 1:52:10
  on the lake. You have a view of the mountains.
• 1:52:12
  Just what you're looking for is right there.
• 1:52:14
  One question. Does it have a black sky? Does
• 1:52:16
  it have what? Black sky. So there are places
• 1:52:20
  with no light pollution that allows you to see
• 1:52:22
  the sky. Yeah, there's a black sky. Because I
• 1:52:24
  wanted to see northern lights. My first thought
• 1:52:26
  was, I'll go to Fairbanks, Alaska. And then
• 1:52:28
  it's, oh, that's going to be expensive.
• 1:52:30
  It's going to cost 12 hours to get to Fairbanks.
• 1:52:35
  I'm only staying for four or five days.
• 1:52:38
  In Apgar itself, there's some lights, but what
• 1:52:41
  you can do, though, is it's a mile drive
• 1:52:44
  onto the east shore of the lake. There's this
• 1:52:46
  little amphitheater. I can take you there. There's
• 1:52:48
  no light at all. It's wide open. You can see
• 1:52:51
  the Milky Way. Really? Yeah. Montana. It is beautiful.
• 1:52:59
  Food's good, too. See, I've never been to Utah
• 1:53:02
  either. I've never been to Montana. I'll give
• 1:53:05
  you my... Oh, Montana is much prettier than Utah.
• 1:53:08
  Unless she's my truck. You don't even need to
• 1:53:10
  rent a car. She's my truck. Just use the truck.
• 1:53:13
  Well, I haven't been able to drive since my eye
• 1:53:17
  issue. Well, then you need a white chauffeur.
• 1:53:22
  Driving Mr. Tomorrow. It's, where are we
• 1:53:26
  going today, Rob? Hey, where are we going? I
• 1:53:28
  will just I will drive you around with your pretty
• 1:53:31
  little hat in your nestle. It's cold but that's
• 1:53:35
  okay. Well, I require you to be in a tuxedo or
• 1:53:38
  some shit that. I that. That'll look
• 1:53:40
  good in tails. Gentlemen, we only have a few
• 1:53:42
  minutes left. We got to touch upon the protests.
• 1:53:46
  You mentioned Albania. You spent time in Albania.
• 1:53:48
  In one of the coverages that I read this morning,
• 1:53:51
  someone was talking to an English reporter. He
• 1:53:55
  was in Albania. He said, oh, are you new here?
• 1:53:58
  He said, yeah. He said, you don't know us Albanians.
• 1:54:00
  We're fucking crazy. We don't care about anything.
• 1:54:03
  Is that true? No. Look, I would tell you, people
• 1:54:09
  are people anywhere you go. It may be an overlay,
• 1:54:11
  but people are people. Albanians are Europeans.
• 1:54:14
  They may be rougher, but they're Europeans. Let
• 1:54:17
  me explain that. So I'll give an example. You
• 1:54:23
  I broke my phone in Albania when I was,
• 1:54:25
  and I didn't realize how important that was.
• 1:54:29
  But I went running off of a cliff, chasing a
• 1:54:31
  taxi, didn't know it was a cliff, slammed it
• 1:54:34
  to the ground, messed my arm up. Mess my face
• 1:54:36
  up. I'm bleeding. My phone is smashed and it's
• 1:54:40
  you need your phone for anything and from
• 1:54:42
  where it was it was in a mountain area where
• 1:54:44
  you had to walk down the mountain or climb
• 1:54:46
  back up the mountain which meant I was stuck
• 1:54:48
  on the mountain and without a phone and not being
• 1:54:51
  able to speak the language. No, they're Europeans.
• 1:54:54
  They tend to be nosy but they also tend to be
• 1:54:57
  relatively nice in their personal space.
• 1:55:01
  So if you need something in a way if I was
• 1:55:03
  in America and let's say if I was walking somewhere,
• 1:55:05
  nobody's going to stop to help me, even if they
• 1:55:08
  think I need help. If I'm just walking somewhere,
• 1:55:10
  as long as I'm not in distress. They would do
• 1:55:13
  that in Europe because I can be a little bit
• 1:55:15
  nosy. And the same thing is true in Albania.
• 1:55:17
  I've had people stop me and say, hey, hey,
• 1:55:19
  let me help you. The thing is here. And let me
• 1:55:22
  walk you to the thing so you can find out where
• 1:55:23
  you are. It's, OK, that's a bit intrusive,
• 1:55:27
  but I thank you for that. Thank you very much.
• 1:55:29
  You helped me a lot. That's a good thing. By
• 1:55:31
  the same token they were also I thought I was
• 1:55:33
  at the clinic in Albania and I think I had on
• 1:55:35
  three kilos and a woman was, how are
• 1:55:38
  you doing today? I was, I'm doing fine. She
• 1:55:39
  spoke English and she says, did your treatment
• 1:55:42
  go well? I was, yeah. Okay, now already you're
• 1:55:46
  getting too nosy, right? You're way too nosy right
• 1:55:49
  now and just you probably should drink less.
• 1:55:52
  And my first and as my first thought is
• 1:55:55
  off that instinct for her to do that. She's
• 1:56:00
  not being an. She's just being Albanian. She's
• 1:56:03
  just being Albanian or just being European and
• 1:56:06
  the other guy same thing. Both are made by the
• 1:56:08
  same instinct. They're just Europeans, right? But
• 1:56:11
  Albania looks rougher. It's not Paris or
• 1:56:15
  it's not. It's not Vienna. Austria
• 1:56:19
  looks a painting. Albania especially
• 1:56:22
  in the area of the lower that I was a little
• 1:56:23
  bit more run down. Tirana again, beautiful country.
• 1:56:27
  Love the people that were there. Very nice but
• 1:56:29
  they're just everybody else. If they're
• 1:56:32
  pissed off, they're pissed off for reasons, right?
• 1:56:34
  It's not this stuff is just random
• 1:56:36
  and I don't think for a moment that the contagion
• 1:56:38
  of France because that's what I'm going to call
• 1:56:40
  it a contagion. Yes. That's spread to other
• 1:56:43
  European capitals. It's spread for a reason. They
• 1:56:46
  looked at France and it was, they're right
• 1:56:48
  and they went out. We know how they could. We know
• 1:56:51
  how to do that. We can do that. We can do that.
• 1:56:54
  We don't do that too. France is right. Same, same
• 1:56:57
  meaning. If France and the conditions in France
• 1:56:59
  are true and the people are justified... By the
• 1:57:02
  way, they're trying to institute martial law
• 1:57:04
  in France right now. I know. I know. What do
• 1:57:07
  you think is going to happen with that? You think
• 1:57:08
  the protesters are going to fight the cops in
• 1:57:09
  this way? Well, what they're trying to do is
• 1:57:13
  say that protests will only be permitted
• 1:57:15
  if they're with official organizations labor
• 1:57:20
  unions. Yeah, but it's not a protest. If you're
• 1:57:22
  freelance, you're not allowed to protest.
• 1:57:25
  That's nonsense. They don't have the First Amendment
• 1:57:27
  in France. The right to protest is not in the
• 1:57:30
  French Constitution. The right to protest is
• 1:57:32
  through power, not through any kind of power.
• 1:57:35
  Yeah, not to mention, the French are kind of
• 1:57:37
  famous for not caring about that. Yeah. We should
• 1:57:42
  hit that just for a second. The right to protest
• 1:57:45
  is not about a document. It's about people going
• 1:57:48
  on the streets saying so. The document tries
• 1:57:49
  to legitimize it. You make your own right to
• 1:57:51
  protest. Yeah. Yeah. That's the entire point.
• 1:57:56
  The process is the exertion of powers, just
• 1:57:58
  you said. It's people power as opposed to state
• 1:58:01
  power. The state is trying to legalize it as
• 1:58:04
  if, okay, this is the right time to do it. Nonsense.
• 1:58:07
  That's, I don't understand here in the United
• 1:58:09
  States where it's, oh, we got a police permit
• 1:58:11
  or we got a parade permit. You don't need a fucking
• 1:58:13
  parade permit. The First Amendment is my fucking
• 1:58:16
  parade permit. Yes, and even if the First Amendment
• 1:58:18
  didn't exist, human beings could get out there
• 1:58:20
  and say, this shit is outrageous. We need to
• 1:58:21
  stop it. Your document doesn't give... You don't
• 1:58:25
  need a document. Your rights are coming from
• 1:58:27
  the barrel of a gun. Agreed. Always. So that
• 1:58:32
  said, there is a Kushner, Jared Kushner.
• 1:58:41
  Relationship to this. So Kushner is supporting
• 1:58:45
  this this real estate development financing
• 1:58:47
  this real estate development in Albania. Can you
• 1:58:50
  talk us a little bit about that? We can then we
• 1:58:52
  can get in. We can talk a little bit about the
• 1:58:54
  what's going on with this Vanity Fair excerpt
• 1:58:57
  and then we could wrap it up. What's the Vanity
• 1:59:00
  Fair excerpt? You mean about Albania? Well, so
• 1:59:04
  no, no, no. So vanity. So basically what happened
• 1:59:09
  with. Let me find this story. Oh, about his
• 1:59:13
  financial entanglements. Yes. So what's going
• 1:59:18
  on here? This is breaking in right now. This
• 1:59:20
  is in Forbes. Basically, Jared Kushner is furious
• 1:59:25
  about this. So the allegations are that he had
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  secret bank accounts that he was a signatory
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  on, hundreds of millions of dollars in foreign
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  transfers and political arrangements with Middle
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  Eastern leaders. What happened was. Back in 2018,
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  Dutch investigators who gained access to Kushner's
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  phone through an arrested and then flipped Russian
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  hacker who turned over access to the Russian
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  remote server containing screenshots of the phone
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  and its data. Kushner's phone was then monitored
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  by the Dutch throughout 2018 as he used it, with
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  investigators finding that Kushner accessed a
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  UAE-linked bank account that had $750 million
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  transferred into it by a UAE charity, a government
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  charity. Allegedly, there was a secret arrangement
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  between Kushner, the UAE, and then initially
• 2:00:22
  Saudi Arabia. Kushner supposedly promised UAE
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  President Mohammed bin Saeed al-Naihan that
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  he would basically make sure that their agenda
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  would be approved by Trump if they participated
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  in a fund. Reportedly used another bank account
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  intended for Kushner and transferred a billion
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  dollars to Israel via Azerbaijan on behalf of
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  Kushner. I believe this stuff. I think they are
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  monetizing the presidency. Meaning these relationships.
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  It's very weird that Kushner, Witkoff, or their
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  sons have these kind of incestuous relationships
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  with these Gulf states, or for that matter, with
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  Israel. Yeah, I believe it. Obviously, it needs
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  to be nailed down, per se. It's funny to me that
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  the Dutch is listening in on Kushner. I know,
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  it's funny. How random is that? God, that's so
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  random. Now, Kushner is vehemently denying all
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  this. It's not, but I'm, the
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  Ted Rall test, right? The Ted Rall test is, you're
• 2:01:37
  denying, but are you willing to put your dick
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  on the table and file a lawsuit for defamation
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  against who? The Dutch Vanity. He can sue Vanity
• 2:01:46
  Fair for publishing the excerpt and the publisher
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  of the book in the United States. I believe this
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  should. I believe. I totally believe. Where's your
• 2:01:55
  lawsuit, Jared? Yep. Bring your lawsuit, Vanity Fair.
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  I think you would have a hard way to go
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  but discovery would be a discovery. Yeah, bro. Yes,
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  it would. That's why there will be no lawsuit.
• 2:02:08
  Looks there should be a court case. If there
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  is no lawsuit, that's a big deal. All of this
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  stuff to me is big deals and nobody seems to
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  care. No, that's the thing. Everything goes
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  right. Ever anything goes. Everything goes.
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  Nothing matters. Every single day there's
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  some scandal that should bring down the presidency
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  every day. Yeah, yeah. It's just wow. Yeah, as well.
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  I don't. I don't know what to say about it.
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  As you point out, it's every day so become a norm.
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  It puts me in a mind of Worf. There's a
• 2:02:44
  great scene with Dax. Ezri Dax and we can
• 2:02:48
  end it on this. Ezri Dax and she's talking to
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  Worf and Worf is honor and dignity
• 2:02:53
  and everything else and she points out to him.
• 2:02:56
  She says, you're the one of the most honorable
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  man that I know and even you accept the dishonor
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  of this empire. What does it mean about the empire?
• 2:03:03
  Meaning if the most honest man is dishonest,
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  what does it mean? And we were having scandals
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  day after day after day. And she was, maybe
• 2:03:13
  that empire needs to die if it's going to act
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  in this way. Meaning you need something else.
• 2:03:17
  This shit doesn't work. I feel the same way about
• 2:03:20
  this. If this took place in the 60s, it would
• 2:03:25
  have brought down the presidency. Totally. If
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  this took place in the 50s, it would have brought
• 2:03:29
  down the presidency. Absolutely. No question.
• 2:03:31
  In the 80s, it would have brought down the presidency.
• 2:03:33
  Joe Biden couldn't even get elected
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  back in the 80s. I don't know. It's just, what,
• 2:03:42
  90s or whatever he ran, that first time where
• 2:03:44
  he was plagiarizing and shit that, and they
• 2:03:46
  caught him with it. He could make it now. It's
• 2:03:49
  we're in the 80s. And with that... That's
• 2:03:53
  the end of the week. No, as I said earlier, no
• 2:03:56
  DMZ America this week. So that's it for us. The
• 2:03:59
  show will be back Monday with or without Jared.
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  Jared. I've been talking to all the people with
• 2:04:07
  J names are the same. Jared. Right. Anyway. Jared
• 2:04:12
  Thomas may or may not be here. I know. Maybe
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  back in Albania. Ted, you're forgetting your
• 2:04:20
  podcast appearance later on today. Oh, that's
• 2:04:22
  true. Well, Robby, you can tee that up.
• 2:04:24
  Yeah. So I will be doing another one of the
• 2:04:27
  Bible study podcasts. People have been asking
• 2:04:29
  about. People have been enjoying them. So this
• 2:04:32
  one is actually going to be about the sin of
• 2:04:34
  racism. The sin of racism. Yeah, interesting. The
• 2:04:38
  Bible condemns it. By the way, how did the other
• 2:04:40
  ones do? They're doing good. Okay, yeah, they're
• 2:04:44
  doing well. Just a good turnout and stuff. People
• 2:04:46
  are coming in. A lot of people are coming
• 2:04:49
  over. Well, what's nice that Robby has a gift.
• 2:04:51
  They're very good. Well, it's just. There's
• 2:04:55
  so many people who say they're Christian but
• 2:04:57
  they don't study and they don't actually believe
• 2:04:59
  what it is that they say and that's a big part
• 2:05:02
  of it. And so I'm hoping that. Yeah, so I'm hoping
• 2:05:05
  that it's able to just show people what
• 2:05:10
  a real Christian looks for someone who actually
• 2:05:12
  does believe it. So yeah, so that's good. Look,
• 2:05:16
  I think especially topic-wise. Oh, man, but stick
• 2:05:19
  with it. It takes a while. Yeah, it does take a
• 2:05:22
  while for sure, for sure. So not making any friends
• 2:05:25
  though because it's in the beginning it's
• 2:05:27
  it's just you and the camera. You're just
• 2:05:30
  making love to them. There's nobody else. You're
• 2:05:32
  just dancing in the dark and then you might get
• 2:05:34
  one person or two person and then ten people
• 2:05:36
  and then a hundred people and then afterwards
• 2:05:38
  they'll get to the house and be, oh my God,
• 2:05:39
  you're so hyped up but it takes a lot.
• 2:05:43
  It's this kind of slow thing. So stick with
• 2:05:46
  it. That's good. All right, guys, that's it for
• 2:05:50
  this week. We'll be back Monday at 9, Monday
• 2:05:53
  through Friday, 9 a.m. Eastern time for De
• 2:05:56
  Program. We'll see you then. Have an awesome
• 2:05:58
  weekend. Thanks for listening, following, and
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  sharing. Please spread the word. Talk to you
• 2:06:02
  later, Mike. Bye-bye.