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🍊 RHOC "A Bunch of Liar Faces!" · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Drama Darling Drama Darling Drama Darling.
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  Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome in, Darlings. This is going to
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  Speaker 2: be quite a ride today we're talking Orange County, so
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  Speaker 2: let me welcome in some of my two fabulous co hosts.
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  Speaker 2: We've got Diana Chang and Emily Theresa's Hi ladies, Hello, Hillo,
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  Speaker 2: Hi gl how's it going. Are you guys excited to
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  Speaker 2: talk about Orange County?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? What is happening?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't listen last week and apparently something went down
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  Speaker 3: on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Oh this show?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right, Diana.
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  Speaker 4: So I will say this. As I was watching the
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  Speaker 4: episode last night, I was like, oh, Amy, you nailed
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  Speaker 4: your assessment last situation last week, Thank you. It was
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  Speaker 4: almost I'm like, is does she have insider information?
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  Speaker 3: You know what?
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  Speaker 2: So I didn't have any insider information, and so this
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  Speaker 2: goes to show every once in a while, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you get it right, You just get it right sometimes,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, I still love the mystery. But okay, let
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  Speaker 2: me let me.
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  Speaker 4: Give her one thing. So Emily Amy had to take
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  Speaker 4: a nice big pause. I accept Gretchen fully. I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't question her. I accept what she says. I
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  Speaker 4: like when she does this with her hair fifty times
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  Speaker 4: an episode and I get lost in that.
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  Speaker 2: Lost blinded by her hairdoo, I am.
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  Speaker 4: But Amy really really was able to drill down on
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  Speaker 4: Gretchen's reaction when Tamera positioned this situation with the drugging
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  Speaker 4: in New Orleans and in New Orleans, and she was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I think Gretchen may have been lying because of how
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  Speaker 4: she reacted and what she did in her body language.
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  Speaker 4: And you just really drilled down on Gretchen's reactions where
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I think Gretchen is completely having
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  Speaker 4: an authentic reaction. She's back on the show because she
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  Speaker 4: can't do this. You were feeling like, I think that was.
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  Speaker 2: She busted, Yeah, she was busted. Yeah, And because Shannon
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  Speaker 2: and Tamra were giving Gretchen the opportunity, like they weren't
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  Speaker 2: believing it that she said that, and so Gretchen had
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  Speaker 2: no First she thought she was busted, so she was paused,
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  Speaker 2: like oh my god. And then Shannon was like, I
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  Speaker 2: can't believe it, and she's now she's lying about you,
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  Speaker 2: and Tarama's like, yeah, she said that. I don't believe
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  Speaker 2: it either, And that second, Gretchen had to not admit
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  Speaker 2: it because she wasn't busted. They weren't saying you did this.
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  Speaker 2: They were saying, we don't believe that you did this,
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  Speaker 2: and so she had no choice but to go along
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  Speaker 2: and lie. So she was like, I can't believe this
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  Speaker 2: is happening. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well so, but there were two There were two hearts
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  Speaker 3: of the matter.
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  Speaker 2: So there's the Emily, I think you're missing the point.
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  Speaker 2: You're missing the point. You're celebrating me exposing. So let's
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  Speaker 2: take a second.
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  Speaker 3: Right, you're one hundred percent right about Amy being thirty
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  Speaker 3: percent right, Okayna, So let's.
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  Speaker 2: Just take a second and celebrate how I called that,
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  Speaker 2: and then we can move on to the other things.
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  Speaker 3: So I did, and I did, and yeah, you really
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  Speaker 3: fast forwarded that. Y.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I say? A win for me is
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  Speaker 2: a win for the darlings. But apparently Emily wants her
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  Speaker 2: scratches on the board separately. So go ahead, Emily, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Where is this board? Where is this board? Because I
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  Speaker 3: need to see this score all right, and.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to take one win. If we're looking at our.
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  Speaker 2: Scratches, oh okay, yes, if.
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  Speaker 4: You don't mind, like, if we're looking at our scratches
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  Speaker 4: really quick. I said that that Shannon can't do back
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  Speaker 4: to back seasons of anything because she hasn't had time
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  Speaker 4: to regroup and time to deal with her hair. She
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  Speaker 4: hasn't got like she'd never outfits ready, she'll never make
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  Speaker 4: up set up like she is not lu Ane. Lu
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  Speaker 4: Ayne can go from a dating show to this show,
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  Speaker 4: to Traders to that to the other. She doesn't need
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  Speaker 4: a break. She's gonna be lifting her.
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  Speaker 2: She's gonna be to show up barefoot. She doesn't care,
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  Speaker 2: no problem.
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  Speaker 4: She's put me on a plane, get me there, I'm here,
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  Speaker 4: Put me on a plane, get me there, I'm here.
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing this. That Shannon needs a proper season to
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  Speaker 4: collect herself.
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  Speaker 2: To get the extensions replaced.
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  Speaker 4: Everything hydrate, right, So I am just seeing this woman
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  Speaker 4: so set up for failure without that time, without her,
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  Speaker 4: she can't do this turnaround time. And I thought this
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  Speaker 4: episode also she wasn't able to get a cloth through
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  Speaker 4: her hair, and that I blame on back to back.
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  Speaker 4: I do stay really firm on that. So I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: give myself some thing. It's just more of the same.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like I didn't uncover a mystery.
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  Speaker 2: I want your flowers.
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  Speaker 4: I want to scratch. If it's a vl you got,
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  Speaker 4: you know, to scratch, you gotta scratch.
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  Speaker 2: Great, great, great great. Now I am like, this storyline
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  Speaker 2: is so bonkers to me, because as if it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: confusing enough, then we peel back more and more layers
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  Speaker 2: as we continue on, and then by the end of it,
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  Speaker 2: we've got Slade coming in here saying telling Katie at
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  Speaker 2: some point to stick to the script because.
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  Speaker 3: And then we got slaid Slade with that fucking mustache.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's a whole other that was. That was a
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  Speaker 2: jump scare, And you know what I thought that was
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  Speaker 2: At first, I thought he was using one of the filters. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like a mustache filter. So I was like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so he's just trying to be funny, and then it
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  Speaker 2: was still there, and then I was like, oh, he's
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  Speaker 2: really committed to this filter. Maybe he's got like a
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  Speaker 2: ZiT on his chin or a ZiT on his face.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't want to show to be the reveal that
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  Speaker 2: he actually has. That was not okay. So off off camera,
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  Speaker 2: Slade said to Katie to stick to the script. So
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  Speaker 2: at one point when we got that quick rewind, when
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  Speaker 2: Katie was like asking the producer interconfessional, so was this
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  Speaker 2: the point where I was protecting Gretchen? I was like,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to be kidding me. Liar face, liar face, liarface.
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  Speaker 2: Everywhere you turn there's a liar face. And do it again,
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  Speaker 2: lio face, liaface, because like, here's the deal. I am
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  Speaker 2: not Gretchen and Jen with this fakery that they're putting
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  Speaker 2: out there is throwing me down on the ground because
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  Speaker 2: they are just they're just fully lying. They are fully lying.
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  Speaker 2: And then Katie was lying and now I don't even
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  Speaker 2: know where to go.
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  Speaker 3: What do you guys, what's this crying about? Something else?
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  Speaker 3: Katie is denying that she went to the.
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  Speaker 2: Press right and that's a lie.
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  Speaker 3: She ever said anything, and.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lie, right, Okay, jen Istacing is lying for Gretchen.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, And this is all what Katie is saying. So
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  Speaker 3: you also have to think, like, was Katie is you know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, do we believe Katie?
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  Speaker 2: This is absolutely okay. So I believe that Gretchen one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent said all those things at that dinner to
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  Speaker 2: everyone that she woke up in the morning she had
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  Speaker 2: to go to the hospital, and so it left maybe
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  Speaker 2: she didn't say rufie. I don't think she said rufie.
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  Speaker 2: I think she said everything but rufie. Like I woke
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  Speaker 2: up in the morning, I had to go to the hospital.
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  Speaker 2: They found drugs in my system. That's what she said.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't say rufie, right, But she didn't say the
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  Speaker 2: word rufie, which is why that's where you when you
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  Speaker 2: say a lie to heaven, right exactly Jesus died for
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  Speaker 2: that exact thing, you know. Yeah, So I think that
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  Speaker 2: Katie said rufie to Kiki, And I think so Katie
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  Speaker 2: can say I didn't say that to her because she
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  Speaker 2: didn't say the word rufie. And so that's the part
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  Speaker 2: that's like, but she's lying that she didn't say anything
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  Speaker 2: to Kiki, but on Gretchen's then Gretchen's lying in her
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  Speaker 2: confessional about whether she went to the hospital or not.
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  Speaker 2: And in the back of the car when that huge
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  Speaker 2: reveal was when Tarma's like, did you say ever? Did
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  Speaker 2: you ever say it to a hospital? And she's like well,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, wait, she just admitted that she had
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  Speaker 2: to go to the hospital. And then in the confessional
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  Speaker 2: she's like, I didn't go to the hospital, but I
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  Speaker 2: should have. Girl. Okay, See that's where.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, Watchen, is that dumb? Why is she
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  Speaker 3: saying this to Tamra?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, well.
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  Speaker 3: Was so confused.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, okay. One thing that was really crazy and because
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  Speaker 4: I just want to say this part about Jen because
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  Speaker 4: Jen got busted out on this episode because last episode
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  Speaker 4: when it was brought up about the roofing and the
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  Speaker 4: the sorry not the roofing but the naked wasted, wasn't
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  Speaker 4: it Jen who said, oh, I don't even know what
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  Speaker 4: that is.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, right, So we watched the show, right, watch the show,
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  Speaker 5: and now this episode we know had a proper sit
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  Speaker 5: down with Gretchen and Slade at a restaurant and they
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  Speaker 5: went over naked wasted beat by beat.
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  Speaker 2: Unbelieved Jen was naked wasted by beat.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I just wanted to get that out and we
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  Speaker 4: can go on. I just wanted to pull Jen's like
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  Speaker 4: moment out.
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  Speaker 3: You know, so you believe Katie that multiple that that
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  Speaker 3: Jen and Ryan were also at that dinner and that
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  Speaker 3: was what they want that everyone was told.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know that, but just Katie, you've even admitted
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  Speaker 4: that on this episode. Jen said, yeah, she was at
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  Speaker 4: the dinner where they talked about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah did she Okay, yeah, yeah, everyone's in agreement that
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  Speaker 2: they were at this dinner, but they're not in agreement
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  Speaker 2: about what was said.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, why would Gretchen not do you think that she's
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  Speaker 4: Are you guys thinking that Gretchen is fully live? If
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  Speaker 4: we're going to say that they went over, then the
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  Speaker 4: beats of naked waisted and it was alluded to that
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  Speaker 4: drugs were involved, why wouldn't Gretchen want you.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't want to get sued. Because she doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to get sued. I think it's all about lawsuits, because
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  Speaker 2: if you make an accusation like that that you got
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  Speaker 2: drugged by somebody, I mean, hello, you know we're talking.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Rusia, right, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I absolutely think that Gretchen is lying to save
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  Speaker 2: her ass from a lawsuit. So why she would be
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  Speaker 2: so reckless to come and tell that story to two
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  Speaker 2: housewives on the current show, that she's allowing them to
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  Speaker 2: jump to conclusions which she wants them to do. To
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  Speaker 2: think that Damra roofeed her. She's putting it out there.
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  Speaker 2: Why she would be to say these things to these
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  Speaker 2: housewives because you can't trust a housewife. It's going to
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  Speaker 2: come out.
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  Speaker 4: So you guys think she wasn't rufeed? Is that what
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  Speaker 4: you're saying? That that part is totally made up? The
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  Speaker 4: drug part?
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  Speaker 2: I think, oh, I think that she absolutely did not
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  Speaker 2: roofy Gretchen. And I don't know what she's talking about
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  Speaker 2: when she says she went to the hospital and she
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  Speaker 2: got a well Katie saying she said she went to
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  Speaker 2: the hospital, she got a toxicology report and there were
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  Speaker 2: drugs found in her system. I believe Katie. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I just am believing Katie. What do you guys?
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  Speaker 3: So, I don't think that Katie's flying about this. I
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  Speaker 3: do think that Katie's in over her head and because
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  Speaker 3: of that, right, it's very guarded with what she's getting
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  Speaker 3: accused of, because I think she's just fearful. But I
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  Speaker 3: think that maybe Gretchen did have drugs in her system.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know where they were from, right, And that's
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  Speaker 3: also where she's kind of finding like a safe harbor.
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  Speaker 3: Like she's like, I was with these people, I went home,
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  Speaker 3: I got really sick, and the next day I went
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  Speaker 3: to the hospital, and drugs in my system. She's saying,
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  Speaker 3: here are the dots. It's up to you guys to
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  Speaker 3: connect exactly.
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  Speaker 2: She's safe, yeah, exactly. And then she got busted. And
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  Speaker 2: why you think you'd never get called out for that
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  Speaker 2: is unbelievable to me, Like you don't.
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  Speaker 4: Think she was trying. If so, if she got there
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  Speaker 4: were because it doesn't make sense to me if she
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  Speaker 4: was completely lying about drugs in her system, that's like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't get that, right, So we're saying that we
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  Speaker 4: think there were drugs in her system at this point.
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  Speaker 2: She no, I'm not saying that. I don't. She may
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  Speaker 2: have lied about that to Katie, but I think that
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  Speaker 2: what Katie is saying is what Gretchen told her.
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  Speaker 4: But I think what you were saying about loss applied
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  Speaker 4: makes more sense to me because there's a world in
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  Speaker 4: which because Gretchen did impress charges back then, Like let's
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  Speaker 4: say she was slipped something not a roofye per se
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  Speaker 4: pop brownie whatever, I don't know, drugs, but let's say
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  Speaker 4: she was slitt something.
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  Speaker 2: Danna kidding, kidding, kidding, of course.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, but like or even like a xanax. It's
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  Speaker 4: gonna make her drunker, you know, or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe that was.
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  Speaker 4: Slipped to her, but she didn't press any charges. So
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  Speaker 4: now she can't go there's no case for her to
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  Speaker 4: go forward with. But maybe it was true, you know,
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  Speaker 4: so she's telling these girls the truth, but she never thought.
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  Speaker 4: But yes, to your point, like you would have to
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  Speaker 4: write in blood, you can never bring this up on
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  Speaker 4: camera because if you do, or to a blogger, and
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: why are we calling podcasters and radio host bloggers, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I don't like that. But and that's a separate issue
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  Speaker 4: and that's over to the side. But you would have
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  Speaker 4: had to be so clear with them like this can't
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  Speaker 4: This is for information as to why Tamra's evil, and
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  Speaker 4: you guys should side with me when I show up
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  Speaker 4: on the show but it can never be spoken to
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  Speaker 4: because I can't prove it at this point.
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  Speaker 3: But do you also think that Katie didn't, Like she's
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  Speaker 3: saying these things naked and wasted happen a million years ago.
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  Speaker 3: She's probably assuming it's almost irrelevant and that people already
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  Speaker 3: knew that maybe, and or let's say that Gretchen said
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  Speaker 3: this to them in a let's like we're really getting close,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to disclose this thing. Then what have Katie
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  Speaker 3: and Jen told Gretchen that they were all feeling that
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  Speaker 3: open about. I'm like, she probably knows some shit too,
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  Speaker 3: So I think.
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  Speaker 2: Like, which is maybe why Jen is having her back
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  Speaker 2: blindly and lying along with her.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, else because they want to take down Tamra. I
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  Speaker 4: think Gretchen is on this show to take down Tamera.
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  Speaker 4: That's why she's back.
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  Speaker 2: And Jen is furious with her, so she's going to
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: do anything she can to get back at Tamra certainly.
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  Speaker 4: And Katie. I do believe Katie's tragic flaw is that
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  Speaker 4: she approached this show as a dirt seeker, right bone
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  Speaker 4: collector that had ammunition, like instead of just coming on
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  Speaker 4: and having whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Experience made messy moves. She's moved messy and now she's
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  Speaker 2: moved messy again, so she really can't be trusted. And
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: now the other girls, you know, she she's in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of this, and she was used kind of as
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  Speaker 2: a pawn, and that's sort of what I think somewhat,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like, was she used as a pawn?
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, but she's responsible for her action,
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  Speaker 2: So let me just take that back. I mean, she
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  Speaker 2: was obviously told this information allegedly allegedly for all of this,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, and then she went to Keiki Monique
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  Speaker 2: and told her, but she used the word roofie. And
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  Speaker 2: then Keki was like, I'm not gonna say anything about
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  Speaker 2: this because roofing, that's that's that's a real legal matter.
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  Speaker 2: If that's what the accusation is, We're not gonna talk
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  Speaker 2: about this. I'm not going to bring this up. That's
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  Speaker 2: insane and uh. And so then when Keki brought it
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  Speaker 2: up to Tamra, she's probably like, hey, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: this is circulating, you better watch your back. You might
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  Speaker 2: have another lawsuit coming your way because you're being accused
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  Speaker 2: of getting of roofing somebody. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: this is going to surface, but like heads up. And
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  Speaker 2: then then that's when Katie got in trouble because it's
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  Speaker 2: like you you're going around saying this like you made
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  Speaker 2: it up, but she didn't make it up. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what came out later that she was she was protecting
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  Speaker 2: Gretchen at that point and that's why she didn't say anything.
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  Speaker 2: That's why she didn't call Kiki at that time. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and also that's Katie's move too, like she's
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  Speaker 3: never going to pull the phone out and call somebody.
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  Speaker 3: We saw that at the spot also, right.
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  Speaker 4: And she has said out loud, I am I approached
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  Speaker 4: this incorrectly and I have been acting a fool.
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  Speaker 2: But in the car in the remember when she was
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  Speaker 2: like if I called Kiki she wouldn't and asked her,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: did you did you lie? She's gonna she's not gonna
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: say I lied, Right, So then that's suspicious too.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Well, then she's calling Kiki a liar, right, So now
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: she's calling me a liar and that is not great,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Like yeah, I mean it's basically no, I don't know
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: that's that.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: That's that actually threw me out, like because it sounds
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: like more of a misunderstanding of verbiage more than it is, Oh,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Kiki's lying and Katie's lying. It's more like Katie was
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: relaying exactly what she heard and then embellished it a
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: little bit.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: To somebody who would get the word out. Yeah, so
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: it's messy. You know, she didn't say it. She said
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: it to be.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: A gotcha right, Yeah, she sure did, and she got busted.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: It's too much to follow when you go outside of
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: the realm and you start involving bloggers and stories. I
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: don't like this type of story. I really love it.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I'm annoyed actually right now, Yeah.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not. I love it, and I've said it before.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I love it. It's so old school Hollywood and old
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: school politics about the leaks and the you know, I
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: kind of love it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: You don't like giving, Okay, I'd rather argue about Lisa
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: not on following Marcus. I mean at this point because
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: by the end of this, I'm like, this.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Is Katie's ninth leak story. Yeah that didn't happen. That's
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: where it's hilarious because like, well, clearly Katie, right gotta yeah,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: you got it. We know you are new to all
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: the people you're leaking to. They they have much bigger,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: better connections with the gals that have been on here
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: for one hundred years. So if they're going to talk
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: to the veterans and tell them exactly what went down,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: and that is where I'm like, Katie, you're lying. That's
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: what I think she's lying about over and over again.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, she cannot be trusted with anything. Talk about thirsty
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to have to go to multiple people and bloggers and
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: like the Bravo Babe, that whole thing happened, Yeah, I mean,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: and why would that was?
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Why would have that was the spa phone call? That
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: on Instagram?
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, the Bravo Babe was the spat
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: spa phone call? And and what what would the Bravo
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: babe have to gain by lying about this? She didn't
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: asked to be brought into this, you know, it's like
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: why And same with Kiki. Why would she be want
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: to be brought into this? So she's the one who's
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: reaching out.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: They're the ones getting contacted, right, right, Like they're Bravo
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Babe or whoever's just sitting there doing their things acording
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: this concept and right they're catching shrapnel from the housewives
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: because they're just sitting there. It's not like somebody's like
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: hiding in Emily's bushes and like, oh I got the scoop.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: It's like they're.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Getting connections and yeah, there's there's I think it just
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: is less like I like and I as we sit
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: here being these people, we are also them. So we're
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: all talking about Bravo, right, but like there's no thirst
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: on this platform, but there is thirst to be involved.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: So they may show up at places, they may be
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: going to, you know rips, the three Amigo three Amigo
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: shows trying to you know, screens, the Amigo screening is
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: trying to sidle up, Like I just I feel like
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: after the Monica thing in Salt Lake City, that felt
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: so crazy. It's like an insider blowing the lid off,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: and I don't know, I don't know.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Well by the way I mean, it's just that I
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: don't feel like we always need that because it ends
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: up being spoilers for the show, for one, and because
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: we're going to see it play out and I'd love
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: to see them just call each other out for their
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: own lives. Then the Hearsay thing, well, I think like
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: to Emily's point, you know, now we're in a situation
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: where because there are multiple people involved on the outside,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: these things are getting exposed about these housewives. They're getting
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: exposed for all their lives.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Now what also keeps everybody relevant in the off season,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: which I do think for better or for worse, is
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: good for Bravo, you know, whether or not it lands
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: on their show. It's like, I mean, how when was
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: the last season of New Jersey? And like we talk
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: about New Jersey all the time because they are that
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: the Bravo sphere keeps it pumping and litera leaks and
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: it keeps it going. And then like eventually like Bravo's
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: going to have to put that show back on because
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: we need to like play out and.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Dealt with right right, right, Well, we have more to
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  Speaker 2: of Orange County. Okay, so now let me pull up
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  Speaker 2: my notes. I didn't I have put my glasses on
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: because they're on my notes app. Last night, I was like,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I can't I get out my computer. I'm just gonna
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: do it from my phone. Okay, slaves Mustache, that's number one,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: number two, You'll never see my face again. Love that flashback.
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  Speaker 2: That's my favorite line ever. I quote it all the time.
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  Speaker 2: It's my favorite line I think of all times. Also,
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  Speaker 2: the run Run, and it's such a large.
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  Speaker 3: Stays, the widest shot of all time. Yeah, she's so tiny,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: little mouse, scurring.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Little mouse, and she's running across that marble. And then
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Shannon in this suit like that that cheetah, that leopard
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: suit or whatever in the back seat just kind of
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: she's got it buttoned up, so you know when you
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: button up a blazer and you sit down, and she
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: she's like not really sitting, she's kind of leaning back.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: It was so funny in the back seat of that
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: sprinter van. Do you know what I'm talking about?
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: It looks so comfortable, she is not sorted.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: There you go when back in the day, like when
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: when they would be filming in like the thirties and forties,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: and these gowns you would have leaners where you would
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: like almost like a stand. You put your feet down
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: and it would like hold you in place.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Like a doll stand.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like a doll stand, so you could lean back
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: and not like wrinkle your dress. And I always think
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: about that. For the reunion, I was like, no, they
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: need those in those sprinter vans for Shannon, because I
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: totally it was all bunched up, like bunched leaner alert.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Well, when Tamra leaves New Orleans, they are all so passed,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: they are all so passed about it, like you know,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: and I know that she was out of control. But
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I started thinking about this and I was like, I
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: don't know, man, nobody really cared too much about the
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: fact that her best friend is extremely ill and that
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: that's taking a toll on her. I like, I think.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: There's a lot I think with them, though with Tamra,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: it's like everything is something. There's always a force around
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Tamra that today is not the day to fuck with Tamra.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: And I get the teddy thing and I get the
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: daughter thing, but I think what she's finally actually feeling
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: raw emotion now that she's going through therapy and stuff
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: and the xanax. So I just think like they I
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: don't know if that anger about her leaving was like
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: real real. I got the vibe that that was kind
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: of bullshit. I think they were like, good, you need
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: to go.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Well, I agree, yeah, I think they were. She also
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: like Shannon had had a really hard year last year
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: and Tamra rode her ass into the ground. So she
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: has nothing in the bank she did. I think that
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: that's the whole thing is in.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Terms of allies, you mean, in terms of ali in.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: Terms of goodwill, like there's nothing in the bank. There's
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: no grace for her in the.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Bank, right, I mean, Heather was the only one who
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: really did do something. And when they finally met after
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: like they got back and Tamra's like, nobody nobody touched me,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: nobody got touted it, and Heather was like excuse me,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: and she just really got firm with her.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, look at her phone, like it's
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: gonna drill down on this. There are written receiats here.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: This is why I think that the rage over Tama
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: leaving was not legit, because this was a clear substance
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: issue with Tama in terms of the drinking and something
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: else at the time, they didn't no, And I'm like,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: if they were actually mad, Shannon would have been dragging
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: her so hard, because she'd have every right to, because
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Tamar went in so hard for the exact for drinking
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: and substance abuse or whatever overall substance abuse, and then
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: she they were both They were all just kind of
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: like fae enraged to me because.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: And because she didn't stick around, no one really had
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: the opportunity the next day to sit down with her
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: and be like, you know, last night, there were extracurricular
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: things influencing your behavior and that was unacceptable to us.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: But now let's get down to why you got to
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: that point and how sorry we are about your situation,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: and let's talk about it so that this doesn't happen again.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Because you heard a lot of people last night, you know,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, tamer didn't give them the opportunity to do that.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: She just left, yeah, yeah.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And there was no I mean, they were all
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: so thrown by it because that because usually like Tamra
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: doesn't like go inward and quietly call you a bit,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: she's screaming at you. It was just so off for her.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: They were all reading it like, what is happening? Right, like.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Scream at me? You know, yeah, yeah, this is just
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: weird Bizarro Tamera Bizarrow, Yeah.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, strange. Well all right, so so Gina called the journalist,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the credible journalist. We don't know who that is, no,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: we do not.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would like to know the credible journalist, Derinda.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: Is that who we think it is?
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, I was making a joke about that last
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: last week, but I don't think it was. I think
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I have an idea, but I don't even want to say.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: But but there are so many people in that realm
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: that I think, you know, like it wouldn't matter if
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: you said it or not. You probably don't know them
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: or know the connection or doesn't matter, you know. So
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: but she called a credible journalist and to verify and
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: they said that, yeah, Katie called Kiki, right, that's that's yeah,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: and verified camera. So then Shannon and then then we
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: go to the airboats and Shannon is calling is that Gina?
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: And she's crying about being late to the airboats? I
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: don't know who was crying and what was that all about?
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: She was having an anxiety attack?
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well she was late, right, Gina was putting that together,
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: and so she called Gina. I just got the vibe
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: that I was like, man, I think Shannon does this
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, they were all so. I mean to
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: see her teeter tattering in those heels to get on
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: a boat that's going to be gliding through the muddiest now,
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: you know, I go veryl swamp literal swamp to have
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: and I go hot and cold with Heather. But to
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: have her in a swamp, it was not right.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: I was like, Heather, none of that was right, that
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: none of them on that boat was right.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: I agree, Okay, it was not okay, Like you couldn't
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: see one inch down, it was mud water with alligators.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: I don't like that.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I didn't know. I thought that was very I mean,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I give him all credit for showing up to do
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: this work, because that looked like a horrific I would
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: not want that experience. No, thank you. An air boat
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: he's he is. That driver opened it up and just
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: ripped across that water.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: I would maybe do it personally, but I was just like,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: we're so in the weeds on this literally, you know.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: It's the grassy, wet weeds.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: And for Shannon to be in those heels, which I
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: don't feel like it should be teeter tottering in the
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: heels and late it's giving Lisa like these people who.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Are cue it was it was Lisa, Yeah.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: Who you know, bibbity boppity in with like is there
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: senses even any sunscreen? It's like, get out of here.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Also, what was what was she crying about over the
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: phone and what was the anxiety attack about? We never
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: found out.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: J Shannon Shannon Shannon, she.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Said, because Gina had an amazing meltdown which looked like
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: to me, very real, like off camera stuff. This was
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: about like you didn't show up for your call time
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: and we're sitting on this fucking alligator air boat in
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: nasty weather waiting on your ass. And she was like
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: too many things, too many things.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: You know, it's still the night after the camera departure,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: so that right right still, I think that's what she's
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: upset about. Because also Tamar calls her. We don't know
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: did she go to Tamra at four am? She didn't
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: right or before the four am flight, because remember she
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: said Tamara texted me to come up to her room.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Oh and Shannon said that, yeah, like but I don't. Yeah,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: that's that was like right at the top, there's a
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: flashback to them riding back from the dinner and Shannon
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: is looking at her phone and she's saying, Tamra just
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: texted me to come up to her room. She's gonna
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: fly out at five am. No cameras, don't bring cameras.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: And so I just wondered if she did go up there.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know. There's a lot going on. And Shannon,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: to Deanna's point, she needs her she needs her rest,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: she needs her downtime sy regroup. When she put those
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: lashes on in a moving vehicle like that, I was like.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Proper you, that is impressive. That is next level, like
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: and and and what do you need a glam squad
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: for If you can do that like this is I'll
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: tell you what. That was impressive. That's the next challenge.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: We should do that for housewives, you know, challenge them
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: to do something and stuff like that.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: All the time. Yeah.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: It take out your extensions on this wobbling discs on
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: the airboat.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, while alligators are clipping at your heels.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I did love the deadbeat alligator dads. That was really funny.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: They move really quickly. When they move alligators, So I mean.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, I don't know.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: That's not nothing to be out there with them so intimately,
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: you know, because they agrees. Yeah, she's scared of water, swamps, alligators,
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: all of the above.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Every I'm scared of everything. I don't know why I
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: planned these. It was weird because she's the one who
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: planned it. What are you doing?
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was wearing their logo. She had their sweatshirt
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: on in the last scene of the episode because I
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: was like the old school logo and then she was
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: wearing it again. I was like, Okay, I'd do a sweatshirt.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: It's also very they got ripped off because they didn't
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: see any big alligators and I was disappointed too. They
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: didn't get to see anything.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: What what do you want them shoving them out of
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: the forest.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know, emotic, but like, why are we
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: doing these Why are we doing these tours if you're
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: not going to see it? We have three three three?
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I mean I think it was the same one three times.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Well we didn't go to the mall.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they even said, well I think they would
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: have shown us more, like we didn't see any big
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: fat ones. We didn't get a fatty photo of an
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: alligator like afund.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: For their free airport boat ride. Please send am a sweatshirt.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Please don't I send it to so she'll give it
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: to me. Thanks you.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: So then they go to dinner and oh my god,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: at the bar, and when Gina was choking on an oyster,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: what and how were fighting? I could not believe that
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: that was like a cart that was okay.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, I have to say something.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: You have.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: Publicly flogged me for not knowing Emily and Gina's names
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: and who they are.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Sorry, but you just.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Said Heather and camera. So it is well, you know
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: what books, Okay, come up with Emily's name.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Fair enough, it's not. I mean, I am completely caught
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: and I you're right to do this. You're right to
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: do this. Not only that, but I have it in
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: my notes as camera too. So it's even doubly worse.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Not even there, she's not even there. She's not even
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: there with their therapist. It nobdy tested me, tested me after.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: She's quit the show. Yet we've seen her, like we
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: were halfway through the therapy session and I was like, oh,
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: she's back, right, you know what I mean?
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: She was not gone, that was quick. So Gina and
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Gina's choking on an oyster while Heather and Emily are See.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: You think it's easy because they've been with us for
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: twenty five years, but it's not that easy. It's just not.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Well, you caught me at a at a weak moment.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Let's just say that. Okay. Now, Gina comically being able
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: to come out of this, you know, situation and say hello,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: is anybody there to help me? So amazing. And not
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: only that, not only that, but for Heather to jump
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: out of that fight addressed Gina with the proper medical
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: terminology of the actual muscle that is, uh have heard that? Yeah,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: that is used. That is there when you choke, she said,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: is you're perstaciless not working correctly?
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Wow? And I was like, wait what Heather seems like
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: like a little like above everybody, Like she's so chill
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: and like one of us, as.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: If she's not in the scene. No one jumped up
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: and tried like threw an arm over her for at
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: least attempted a Heimlich when the word. She wanted to
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: show that she knew that word.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: Well as she's gonna do. She learned it on like
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: a sitcom back in the eighties when when you are
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: making sound and Gina was, you're not choking choking, you
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: know what I mean?
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: You know you're right if you can talk.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: So they had to. You know, I enjoyed because Emily,
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: and I know, Emily, you're in Emily here, but I
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: don't ever like even kind of think of your Emily
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: and her Emily. It's two different names as far as
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: I'm concerned, I like, like deeply two different names. So
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: Emily does go for Heather and mock her openly at
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: all times. And the fact that Heather was like fed up,
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: I enjoyed. You know, it was a fun little Heather knockout.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Great in this episode. I don't know if you guys noticed,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: but I really felt like we saw sides of her
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: that we don't normally see, like some real stuff when well,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: this trip.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Has beaten her down because it's so down to the ground,
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: low low low, like we're just we're in swamps, like
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: she can't there's nothing that she can do but to be.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Also, but with the drama that's going on itself, she
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: is really like.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: About her right, and she's a sidecar.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: And she's actually saying some really good things and like
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: and not in a condescending way, like I feel like
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: she is definitely in it to win it, and it's
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I just maybe it's the CA trip.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe when she gets immersed, that's what it is. I
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: think she's best. She really flourishes on cast trips, and.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: It's not her cast trip. That's the other thing. She's
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: not in charge.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she hasn't done a million branding things. And yeah, no,
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: she always starts. I always go through this with her,
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: where at the beginning of the season she rubs me
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: raw because she's coming into it with her affectation. And
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: then this group, as we've discussed many times, is just
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: so not on her level financially, it's not what she
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: would choose. And eventually the Syracuse comes out and she
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: settles in.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yes she really. Yeah, mid to mid
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: season she starts to really loosen up a little bit
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: during the cast trip. It's nice.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because also like with that ranch trip they went on,
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: I like tor like it was her trip and she
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: was super fun and shot.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was really there for Gina.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, whereas like the trip that I'm remembering recently that
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: was hers wasn't that fashion show involved at the winery
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: and she was like, you know, like insulting Emily and
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: not even aware of it, and like, you know, like
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: those kinds of moves.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Right, it was like Richard Marx and like the winery
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: owners and all that stuff. Right, But you know, we
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: also love to see that too. So it's like we
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: have to compartmentalize now. When when it was Gina versus Gretchen,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: we have Gretchen won't listen at all when it comes
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: to Katie, but Gina would listen when Gretchen would talk
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: about Tamra. So Gina is coming for Gretchen. This was unexpected.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: This was a fight that I did not see coming,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: and I very much enjoyed it. And then she said,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Gina said to I think it was it. Who did
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Gina say, makes you think you did say something about Badoor?
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Was she talking to Katie or Gretchen? Yeah, I'm Katie right.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: Katie thought, okay, I thought, I think I don't know exactly,
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: but I think I thought, wait, say it again.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: She said, you makes me think you did say something
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: about Badoor, Shannon Badoor about what? Well, she didn't say,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: and that's why we're trying to figure out who she
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: was addressing, because she was she was coming for Gretchen.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: But I think she must have been angling that toward
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: toward Katie. And I don't know how that all came.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Well because Shannon is so hurt by Katie, and Katie
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: keeps being like, I mean, what's her problem? You know, like,
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: and even though Shannon has told her problem and everybody,
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: and then Katie keeps showing up like I don't know,
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know, and it's like, well, we've told you
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: and you keep lying about it. Yeah, And the thing
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: that we all agree on across the board is we
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: don't we what happened. We keep things insulated and you
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: keep leaking shit, right, So I think that that is
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: what that was all about. And it's like Katie like that,
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: I think that's what.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: I think. You're right. I think I think it was
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: like Gina was coming for Gretchen first, and then Gretchen
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: and Katie kind of having an ally ship. It's making
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Gina think, wait a minute, what about you, kat It's
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: making me think you actually did do something. And Shannon
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: was so delighted. She looked like she just had a
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: piece of chocolate pie. She was like, oh, I was
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: expecting you to turn in my corner. Okay, But how
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: about Gretchen then saying that Katie's never done anything to
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: her and yelling Tamra has done something to everyone at
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: this table, slamming her hand.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Wowy afterthought slam.
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: After thoughts Yeah, uh was yeah, which shows that Gretchen
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: is going to take the opportunity to take Tamra down
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: when she can.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: That's what that's telling me.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: Yes, she's really leaning into the which was sort of
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: telling after Gina exposed the conversation, like that she had,
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: you know, done some fact checking. Yeah, and Gretchen was like, well,
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: who cares?
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: And you know, was like, if you don't care that
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: she's telling someone outside that you were Roofie, then you
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: don't care. She's like, no, no, it's not that I
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: don't care, you know what I mean. But Katie's never
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: done any you know. She went into that whole thing, and.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Which I was like, why isn't anybody saying you like
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: you've known Katie for ten minutes? Like true, I get
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: that you do have a point with Tamra, but it's
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: like you don't know Katie, right, We're all trying to
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: tell you something, right, Yes.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Listen up. Gina makes a really really good point, and
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: then Heather brings the point home by saying, look, we're scared,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: and we've talked about this. You know what happens next Katie,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: and Katie is just as if she's at a business meeting.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Yes we did, we did talk about that. Yeah, yep, yep.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: And it's just wild how she can be so uh
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: and ambivalent, and her ambivalence is her strength because you
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: just she would be an amazing poker player because you
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: can't tell, you just can't tell.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: Well, going back and watching the conversation between when Katie
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: was like talking about it at that table last episode,
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: I think we had a flashback, and now with the
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: new information, I'm watching her look at Jen like, m
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: is this girl really leaving me out to dry? And
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: then looking over to Gretchen so mm hmm. When you
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: rewatch it, your analysis was correct, Amy, and then seeing
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: like what we were what gets revealed here on this episode,
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, Katie is shocked that these girls are
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: and she's just like I, which she said to your husband, like,
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: I think she's like, I have no moves, I have
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: no moves.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: And again I just say Amy twenty percent right, but
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Dan one hundred percent right. Amie's analysis.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Good job, Dienna, Okay, we never did get down on
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: your knee?
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: What that was?
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: I got the math over here. I'm still running the numbers.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: It might might be a few more, but we'll get there.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Deanna's winning, So good job, Dianna put another.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Put another mark. Okay, it's a grade.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah. I think Katie's just like frozen and just
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: we're seeing a person who has no moves, so they're
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: still and they're just.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Waiting it out, and they have no allies. She's on
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: an island by herself, right.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: I wonder if Katie went into all this when she
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: got hired. She's like, I'm coming in very fresh. I
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: don't know jack shit. She and then she was like,
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to build a like you said Dana,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: like an arsenal of information on everyone as a backup,
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: backup plan, not realizing that that's going to be everything.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Like she really didn't expect to be called out on
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: any of this. It was only like in an emergency
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: situation she could pull one of these cards. And now
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: it's like, no, You've like she said she handled it wrong,
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: But I do wonder if she had intended to do
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: that this way.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: I think that's a good point. I think it lands
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: somewhere in between that and this may be her default
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: as a person, and even though we find her likable,
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: it might be one a flaw. You know, that this
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: is how she approaches things. But I do think she
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: came in like I because she came at to brow heavy.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Right, and that right, I'll so off putting. Katie made
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: mistakes as a new housewife coming in, you know, and
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: that's why you always want to give housewives a second season,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: to give them another chance. And in between those seasons,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: she's really biffed it by going to these bloggers. So,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know what she's not learning, but
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: she's she has done everything she possibly could to, like,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: you know, really throw a wrench into best practices. Yeah,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: and now she's at a real dead end. But by
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: the way, when she was sitting with her husband Matt
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: and they were going over what happened at the Masters,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: and Slade was there and she was like, so he
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: brought this up. He brought up naked wasted to you, right?
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: What did he say? And Matt said, well, I can
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: say this. You didn't make it up, and that's all
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: that needs to be said.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: She didn't make Yeah, it's like you're but you're not
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: wrong about that, and so I think Katie's drilling down
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: on like, but that was the most important thing. I
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: wasn't wrong, right, I wasn't wrong, And it's like, no,
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: you were so incorrect. It's like both things can be true,
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: both things, like one of these things can also not
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: be true and the other one is true. Like it
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: doesn't cancel everything out right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So now it looks like Kiki is going to
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: be on camera next week, so we'll see what happens.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, lie detector tests. Oh right, but now see that
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: a lie detector?
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: No, and Dan I said to Amy when we saw
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: that trailer, I was like, I don't like that. Like
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: I like the idea of like leaking stories and everything
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: that does put us in a world of entertainment and
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: that is their reality. What I don't like is the
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: lie detector because now it feels like a game show
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: or just a world that like what are where are
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: we entering? Now? I don't love it.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: If we can fright, it's like, well now that's what
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: we can use. Now that that's been entered into the chat,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: we can use that at any time, which is not fun.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Well, and we all know that like light detector tests
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: aren't accurate, so that could really mess things up. Yeah, okay,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: well all right, what a completely wild episode.
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  Speaker 4: I'm also like, can't wait to see how they all
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: agreed to take a lie detector jest, because I.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't Well, it depends on Yeah, I wonder if they
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: were given questions beforehand and then would agree with it.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know. All right, well maybe that'll be next week.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Who knows. Emily DSIs Deanna Chang, thank you so much. Everyone.
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• 1:01:01
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• 1:01:06
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• 1:01:10
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