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S4 E 13 TCWT Live! Shadows of Power - Unmasking Political Crimes · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Y y yeah, yeah, hello everyone? What hello there, I'm coming
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  through some headphone that is not what is that? Check your settings? It's
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  coming through your head your stereo. How's that? No, it's not your
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  microphone. It's your speakers. Uhh, we have ghosts. Hold on,
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  weird? Is that any better? What is happening? Why are there so
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  many? Oh? I know why. I'm a knucklehead. I know exactly
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  why. You guys. I'm so out of practice. Do you hear the
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  reverb two on your side? Do you know why? It's because YouTube was
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  not muted? Mute your YouTube? Oh, y'all, it's it's been a
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  long week, it's been a long month. I haven't we haven't seen you
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  since last year. Wolf. Now it's better, now, it's better.
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  Oh, y'all. We didn't start drinking early enough that I mean, Oh,
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  it's a lama. It's a wild lama. Oh. I almost my
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  lama's shirt tonight. Huh. Thank you guys. And I am still suffering
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  from the flu and jet lag. But I'm here because I missed everybody.
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  So I was like, I am going to do this no matter what.
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  So here I am. I'm glad you're back. I mean, I I've
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  looked at some of the photos you sent me and I'm jealous. That's not
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  why I'm glad you're back. But I missed you. I missed you.
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  And the last time we did what I guess, I did that one one,
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  the one man Show. So I mean, I will just say twenty
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  twenty four is not starting out quite the way I planned. I mean,
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  I literally had a medical procedure for kidney stones two days before I got on
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  a flight to go to Finland. But we did that because the thought of
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  having the stone try to pass while in the air just didn't sit well with
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  me. No, nope, nope. I heard a story. I heard
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  a story. I was listening to the audiobook of Dave Girls, like I
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  guess auto ethnography, not audiobiography, and he was talking about how he had
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  to switch some things around, but he made it so that he could still
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  go to the Daddy Daughter Dance with his kids because he's a class act.
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  And so he left Australia. He flew back to California, he did the
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  dance stuff. He was sitting there because the kids were dancing with their friends,
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  and he said, you know, the plane's going to have more of
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  the food that I'm looking for, but there's a theser, so he had
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  Caesar salad. He got back on the plane and realized food poisoning, and
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  so he was stuck on the plane with food poisoning all the way back to
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  Australia, which is like twelve hours or something. And he is one of
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  those guys who, according to him and I believe him, he can't really
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  vomit. So he just felt horrible the whole time. So, yes,
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  I there's a lama behind you. I did, and I painted that myself,
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  took monkey, but we give her experiences for her birthday, and it
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  was a painting with the twist. She had kids wine and I painted that
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  myself. Oh my gosh, it looks so cool. Yes, Steve is
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  amazing. He was born where I was born, and he grew up an
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  hour and a half north of me. Right now, it's kind of cool.
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  Yeah, I mean I spent we have such a delay. Go ahead,
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  I was gonna say, I thankfully wasn't throwing up. Just my head
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  weighed two thousand pounds, My ears were clogged, my throat was sore,
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  and they served chicken curry was the meal. Oh and I was like,
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  Okay, I'm gonna be on this plane for eleven at wurs, I need
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  no chicken curry, and so I drank their flu. That's what a great
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  replacement. It's just a meal replacement thera flu, that's what that is.
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  It's a new diet, it's a new flat fat. Oh my god.
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  So I don't know how was Finland speaking of witch other than you know,
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  it was amazing. And I have to say, I mean, I love
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  the people I work with, but I think I could live in Finland.
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  The people are nice, they're amazing. It's beautiful. Now. I will
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  say my hotel room being seventy five degrees and that was as cool as I
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  could get it. I mean, I opened the window. You know,
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  it cracks as far because they don't want you to jump. But I was
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  able to cool it off a little bit. But I could do a little
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  bit cooler temperatures to sleep. I feel like I feel like Finland's the last
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  place where I'd want to just I feel like I'd enjoy it too much.
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  I mean, everybody is so nice. And one day I had twenty one
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  thousand, four hundred steps that I don't support, that I don't I don't
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  support that at all. They walk guys. They gave me a hard time
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  because of course I wore my ugs most of the time. But one day
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  it wasn't snowing that day and it was a warmer day, so I wanted
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  to look cute because we were having a company dinner at the office. So
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  I wore what I consider my Texas winter shoes, little peeptoe wedges, and
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  of course I walked to the office. So it's several blocks and there was
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  snow and stuff, but it was fine. Beauty is pain. And I
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  get to the office and they're all like, oh, those are so cute
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  because they thought I carried them and changed and I said, no, I
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  wore them. And my boss and Mirrva looked at me and she goes,
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  you walked in those I'm like, I did what. She goes, You
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  realize it is below freezing outside. I'm like, I know, but they
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  look cute, right, And I didn't suping fall. Once you made the
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  lama laugh, watch out, she might spit. Now those shoes are having
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  to go to the shoe hospital because I guess walking in snow in them it
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  made the seal come off the bottom. So now they got to be fixed.
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  So a cute little Michael Core's wedges broke the seal. Oh no,
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  I looked adorable, and that's what matters, right, I mean, yes,
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  that is what matters. That is absolutely what matters. Do you want
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  to do you want to take people on a little trip via photos? We
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  should because I got a little disappointed that my late bootom trip didn't go quite
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  the way I planned. But snow up to my waist isn't my idea of
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  fun. Yeah, but I am going, Yes you can. I normally
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  would wear the appropriate attire, but I thought I looked cute, and I
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  was only walking from my hotel to the office and back. Well, so
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  it's not like I was going out in the snow. We could take you
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  to the andies. It just means that you're the first one that we're gonna
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  eat. Okay, sure I don't. I mean I got plenty of fat
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  and marbling, so i'd be really dash to eat. But I will say
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  it is beautiful there, and I'm going back in late September October before it
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  snows. So my plan is to fly in a couple of days early to
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  go back so we can see it. So I didn't get all the way
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  into lake boot them. But I did take some pictures where I was able
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  to get up, so we can share those. All right. Let me
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  come over here and you can just tell us what it is. It's a
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  tree, it's it's a tree, it's a forest. And this is the
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  area. I tried to walk out to to try to go get to the
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  lake, and when the snow was to my knees, I said, yeah,
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  I can't do this now. I did not have on the cute little
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  Texas shoes. I had on boots that were appropriate for where I was water
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  proof. They call them wellies, but I call them hiking boots. But
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  so, yeah, and we went. You'll see the sun going down behind
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  us. So we went because my thought was to go, and I wanted
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  to be there when it was dark so it'd be a little more like when
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  stuff happened. But the sky was so pretty. Sky was so pretty.
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  So if you look see like people tried to walk out there, the part
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  in the farthest piece that is a lake. That's the lake and so it's
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  frozen. Yeah, that's lake. So my boss was with me, and
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  I was like, well, can I try to walk out there? And
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  she was like, and that's when it came up to my knees and I
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  was like, well, I wanted to go walk on the ice and see
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  if i'd fall through. I feel like John Madden because when I went there
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  last year, I went snowshoeing on a lake. I didn't know not all
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  of the lakes are frozen enough to walk on, and didn't know what this
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  was to walk on. Like driving from Helsinki out toes Bo, going out
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  that way, when you go over the bridge, you can see part of
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  it's frozen, but there's a little piece that's not. But yeah, we
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  decided I shouldn't walk out there. But yeah, so this is just more
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  pictures and you can see that's the lake as well. I got up as
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  close as I could and tried to zoom in. You know what I find
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  cool because of they got a lot of rain and a lot of the snow
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  melted and it turned to like, like that looks like it's tree. What's
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  the stuff called mult It's not. It's actually like three inches of ice on
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  top of it. It's just not white wild because it was rain and that's
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  what you step on and you slip and you bust your bomb ah. I
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  see, so we call it black ice. That's right. Well, I
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  to my boss, I said, I still want to camp out there.
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  Oh, go back, you passed. The sunset was so pretty. That
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  was That was the next photo. I went too far. That's like,
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  I don't know if what you call a little part that comes off from the
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  lake, like a little shootout. Yeah, but that was all frozen.
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  I did touch it with my boot and it was frozen. I'd end up
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  touching it with my booty, I'd fall on my face. I'm sure I
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  was determined. We did have a fellow coworker who slipped and fell, but
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  I thought that was just amazing. That's called team building. The sunset and
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  guess what time it was with the sunset four ten pm. I don't like
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  that. So even walking to the office at eight o'clock in the morning,
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  it was still dark outside like what we have now. Nope, So in
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  December and January, they only get like four hours of daylight, but their
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  nighttime is more like what we call dusk. It's not like wildish black.
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  Yeah, like twilight. There's a little bit of light. But yeah,
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  this was all between four and four thirty pm. That's so wild, that's
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  cool, it's beautiful. I was sad that I didn't see any animals I
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  wanted to see, like an elk, a moose, a rabbit. The
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  only animals I got to see were lots of dogs. I told my dogs.
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  I cheated on them every chance I got. I petted all of the
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  amazing dogs in Helsinki because everybody has dogs and they go to rush rants good
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  and I petted them and loved on them. And the other great thing.
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  People in Finland learn English in school. They don't graduate high school until they're
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  fluent in reading and writing English, English, Finnish and Swedish. I can
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  talk good. I think they might do better than us might. Our Educationism
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  is not the beast in the world. I don't care what anybody. Well.
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  Funny that we're talking political crimes today, because, believe it or not,
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  I got asked the question when went to dinner with some of my coworkers,
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  people from India, London, France, Finland and then US, and
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  got the question, so what do you think about your current presidential election?
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  And I just looked around. I said, you know, I don't normally
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  talk politics or religion, and they said, oh, well, what's your
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  thought, I said, I'm going to just say it's a circus currently,
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  and then the conversation went on and I had to admit, we're the only
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  country that lets a convicted sexual assault person run for president. Yep, we
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  are the foundation of morality here in this country. Then we talked about the
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  differences, and I mentioned it. I did a quick TikTok on it while
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  I was walking to the office, the difference in the justice systems. Finland
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  does not have life without pearol. In other words, they don't have life,
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  no, you get they no, they rehabilitate you. Well, see
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  that's see, that's where that's where we say we do that, but it
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  costs money, so we don't really do it. I'm guessing they also don't
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  subsidize their prisons for how many beds they fill either, which is our oly
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  issue. So right, and they don't have murders and stuff like we do.
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  So I mean, so it depends. So and I will tell you
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  guys, it's one of the things that I am going to dig into because
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  talking to a coworker from London then comparing Finland and then the US, it
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  was just shocking the difference between the three, and then also what the difference
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  is for murder and what constitutes murder. I don't remember if it was London
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  or Finland, but there is no self defense, so if you kill somebody,
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  it's manslaughter, whether they were coming at you or not. So I'm
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  going to dig into that, and then I'm going to probably say I'll do
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  a special Live to go over it, and then I'm going to try to
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  talk a couple of my coworkers to come on and talk about it, because
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  we had a very long, i'm going to say in an hour conversation about
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  it and several cocktails, and I saw pros and cons to all of it.
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  I do say in the US we are much stricter, or at least
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  from where I live, much stricter, but we also are a little more
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  understanding and forgiving, Like we do believe in protecting yourself. Someone breaks into
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  my house and tries to kill me, I have the right to kill them.
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  Over there, you don't. You are still held account. So I'm
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  going to dig into that and we're going to do a special on that.
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  I was just looking at country rate rankings regarding murder rates, and the US
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  is sitting at six point four to two per one hundred thousand, which doesn't
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  sound like a lot, but Finland only has one point sixty five, So
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  yeah, I mean people don't, so I'm going to admit this. We
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  went to the grocery store to get some stuff for the office because we bought
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  Valentine's gifts for everyone that was there and we wanted to hand them out.
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  I set my little wrist wallet down in the basket and forgot it, and
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  then we had to go and ask everybody. Somebody turned it in, turned
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  in my wallet. Guys. Luckily my passport wasn't in there, but my
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  credit cards were. I would have had no credit cards for the rest of
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  the trip the travel home, plus my driver's license and my key to the
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  office. And someone turned it in with no questions, just said, hey,
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  I found this, and guys, it was a brand new Michael Core's
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  gristlet. They just I don't know what I mean of that means they are
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  just they don't They're not thieves. Like I hate to say it, I
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  didn't have I will say this. At a I was, I bought I
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  bought something and uh, I was at a Walmart and I got home and
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  realized I left my wallet somewhere in a Walmart on like one of the checkout
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  self checkouts, right, and I was like, well, I'm never getting
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  that again. I better start canceling my credit cards and shit. And I
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  went back and I went to customer service and somebody turned it in and I
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  was like, I like fell the one person. Yeah, I like found
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  the one person, sassy, what do you I'm not sassy? No,
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  oh yes I am. Oh. Angie left her passport when we were in
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  London and someone turned it in. Oh geez, so busy. Okay,
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  but I mean a passport, yes, But like I said, I mean
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  I I was shocked because in the US, we all know somebody would have
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  used those credit cards and taken them. Maybe I shouldn't be that way,
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  but but it was just nice. And the other weird thing is you don't
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  tip there. But yet all the service people are so nice, except for
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  the nighttime person at my hotel. She wasn't so friendly. She was holding
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  cranky. But out of my three or four times I think I've been three
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  times down to Finland, first time I've met somebody that was old and cranky.
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  And she just happened to work at my hotel and it could have been
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  that we wailed and obnoxious. She said, I've seen some shit. I'm
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  not good. I'm past nice, from the past nice, and she priedn't
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  like that. The night I checked in, I came down and I said,
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  can you turn the heat off in my room? Do you happen to
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  have a fan, a big fan that I can put in my room?
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  Do you have extra bottles of wine? Yes? Yes, true. Imagine
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  that it's true. They elbow elbow like that name gentleman knows the Lama.
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  I love that they take care of their people, and I think that's why
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  they're one of the happiest countries, is because they treat everybody the same.
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  The only people that you don't talk to are the random gypsies that you've seen.
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  You don't see a lot of them. There are people from Romania that
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  are asking for money, but they give their money to It's like a syndicate
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  kind of thing. Oh Jesus and what but you? I like saw two
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  my whole time there, and I didn't see any of my last trip.
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  But they ask for money. They don't really ask. They put a sign
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  out and they just sit in the corner like a homeless person, but the
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  money is not for them, they have to give it to their handler.
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  Jeez, that's yep m hm. So I think we probably should move into
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  our cases. However, before we do that, there's two videos that we
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  want to play. The first one is the thousand sub video. So if
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  you know anybody who's looking for, you know, a good time, call
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  me up, no, have him subscribe to our channel, and that video
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  will tell you what we're gonna do when we hit a thousand subscribers. And
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  then right following that one is gonna be your preview of the intro video to
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  the Hey Ho Show. Because it's happening. It is happening. I'm so
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  excited, and he's talking about me. No. No, In fact,
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  today today my dad goes, so do I get some royalties or whatever?
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  And I was like, what do you mean royalties? We're not Number one,
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  no money is exchanging hands here? And number two what No, He's
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  like, I'm responsible for the hoe And I was like, okay, listen,
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  Dad, I am I right, I'm hot senior, All right,
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  let me play. I'm gonna play these two videos back to back and uh,
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  we'll see you go Mary call it did see even the first PROD weekend
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  is girl Back Thurstday Crazy, getting the busts come, getting out of the
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  ground, cannot busted him to sell it, sail stuff you can tell about
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  looking about this John already gold. I love the beheadings can so I don't
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  know standing body a shoveling you because I wanted to know when that s to
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  show all night between when we get about it, don fa hey, how
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  oh hey you have like here, We're gonna explain this on the first episode.
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  But this is kind of how Ryan and I met, uh was It
• 28:03
  was at a birthday party and then I said, hey, you want to
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  do a radio show with me? I've got one and I need ned a
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  co host and he was like okay, uh And that was the first time
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  we ever met, and so we decided, hey, ho show, that's
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  what we're gonna do. And the whole call was hey ho ho Hey.
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  That's how that worked. And at that point on the radio, like on
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  internet radio, we weren't caring too much about copyright really because like it was
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  internet radio in college. But our intro is blitz creed bop, which is
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  where the hey ho, let's you know, that's where that came from and
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  so we obviously can't do that here. I can't afford it Zork can I
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  afford the lawyers. But I'll find some way around it, you know.
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  So that's kind of where we're at. And uh, I've got to get
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  Brian. I collect apparently audio stuff. I'm like an audio hoarder after somewhere
• 28:53
  years of doing this, and yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm a
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  holder hood or hood or I'm an hod or. If you're a nerd,
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  you'll get that. And so I gotta I basically have everything he needs.
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  So I just got to get that to him. And then we're going to
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  find a decent time it Maybe it's either Tuesday or a Friday. I'm not
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  sure just yet, but uh, it's gonna gonna be it's gonna be kind
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  of a variety show of sorts, and it's gonna be like Night Court minus
• 29:26
  a lot of the crime. We're gonna have a good time. It's gonna
• 29:29
  be like the chill out time for everybody just to decompress, Like if you've
• 29:33
  been watching trials all day long, like it's time to chill because a lot
• 29:37
  of that is just exhausting. So it's gonna be it's you know, we're
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  obviously gonna talk about Yeah, yes, yes, it is hard. It's
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  gonna be the play hard, right we are we are the play hard.
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  Yeah, we're the play Hards. That's my uh that's punk pop band name.
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  The play hardsh better than play flaccids. It just doesn't work, just
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  being honest. Oh my, oh hi, oh it's soft work. You
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  go, no work play, all play, all work and no play makes
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  What's what's that line? All work and no play makes all work, no
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  play, plain boy boy cap nose. I'm sure captain knows, or elbow
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  feet nose or makes you boring divorced, that's it. All work no play
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  makes jack a doll boy, that's it. I think it makes it makes
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  you sorry, just makes Jackson. You need to submit that peer review and
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  feedback to Stephen King. You send that, see what he says if he'll
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  respond to me, right, yeah, we'll see what happens. You know.
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  Oh man, well, we are covering. If I single you mean
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  frozen in a me, I'd say that's pretty damn single. Six say that's
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  pretty damn thing in my book, unless you like that kind of thing,
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  in which case I mean I'm not judging. Hey, fine, no judgment.
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  It's your kink. As long as you're consenting, go for it.
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  Just keep them in the free keep them in the freezer. Yeah, the
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  acts did not help. Okay this, okay, hold on. I have
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  to tell y'all. Do anybody there's a podcast called case Files now wishing I
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  remembered what the case was, but I was listening to it while delirious in
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  bed about a guy that went on the Internet and looked for a person who
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  wanted to be cannibalized while alive. Oh yes, I heard of this case.
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  I had never heard of the case, and I will tell you I
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  fell asleep to it, so then I dreamed about it, which doesn't normally
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  listened to Keith Morrison, but I'm trying something different. Yeah, no,
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  no, and the Acts and the frozen He had sixty five pounds of meat
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  of this guy in his freezer. But it was he consented correctly. The
• 32:52
  guy consented to being killed and having his junk cut off and eaten. Well,
• 32:59
  he was a lot. I mean, it's a choice, you know
• 33:02
  what you do. You just need to tell me what books you want read,
• 33:07
  and I'm going to start reading them. And then I'll send you the
• 33:08
  chapters because it I'll upload them here. It just not a lot disturbs me
• 33:21
  in the true crime world. That one disturbed me. Dude, there's too
• 33:30
  Yes, I think it was in Michigan. Surely, surely hello, yes,
• 33:38
  yeah, but guys, there is not I mean, if somebody can
• 33:44
  sense it's not murder. Wait wait, are you serious? Was his name?
• 33:58
  No, that's not this case. But yes, I know the Kevin
• 34:00
  Bacon case, but it's a different case. A guy named Kevin Bacon volunteered
• 34:07
  to be cannibalized. No, he was the cannibal so he knows exactly what
• 34:14
  his brand is. Yeah, we covered that back like my first year on
• 34:22
  the podcast and tried to look but no, this was overseas. Yeah,
• 34:32
  but yeah, but this case was in the UK, and I'm just going
• 34:39
  to tell you it was disturbing. And what was more disturbing they arrested over
• 34:45
  a hundred other people who were interested in cannibalization and had gone through with cannibalizing
• 34:54
  people. So anyway, let's move on, because that's just speaking of cannibalize
• 35:00
  people. Let's talk about politics. Yeah, perfect, how we always devolved
• 35:06
  to cannibalism. It's just who we are, Buffy, It's just who we
• 35:09
  are. It's just who we are. So uh, politicians are cannibals fashion
• 35:22
  they eat there. It's not a QAnon. I'm just it's a it's a
• 35:25
  joke, so don't take it. So you're not gonna I mean, I
• 35:29
  don't think we're gonna get like political political. These are just crimes happen in
• 35:31
  politics. Now, the question is do you want to go first or do
• 35:36
  you want me to go first? How about I go first while I'm still
• 35:40
  feeling the best and then you can go. Okay that sounds good. Oh
• 35:51
  yeah, it does for sure. Okay, that's fun. Great, Okay,
• 35:57
  all right, Mark Mark Tusky more nightmares? Oh my god? Do
• 36:04
  you want do you want to talk about your do we want to talk about
• 36:07
  wines first before we? Oh? We go, because by the time I
• 36:09
  get to mind, I'm gonna forget to do it. So do you want
• 36:12
  to do yours? And then I'll do mine and then we'll hop into the
• 36:14
  story. So I am drinking, I don't have to put on my glasses.
• 36:19
  It's called Prophecy and it's a rose out of California, and I did
• 36:25
  it because it's a Goddess of Fortune. So and I liked the label.
• 36:34
  Never heard of it before, but I thought it was so cute. It
• 36:38
  is layered with notes of fresh red fruit. But it's pretty good good.
• 36:46
  Probably shouldn't be drinking with taking. They're a flu and all the meds,
• 36:52
  so I might get cerpsy real fast, but we'll see. Just if you
• 36:57
  have to mute my mic, go ahead and shut me up. I am
• 37:02
  so. I picked this because I feel like I know my audience and I
• 37:06
  feel like they would really like this. It's a red blend. It's all
• 37:08
  right, It's it's very what's the it's it's there's there's a sediment taste to
• 37:15
  it. Do you know what I'm talking about? There's like a are you
• 37:19
  talking about the tannins the first Yeah, it's rough, is it? So?
• 37:23
  It's very furry? Yeah, it's furry, but uh, it's called
• 37:30
  it's called sheep Thrills. It's adorable. And I picked it purely, obviously,
• 37:38
  not for the taste, but for the label and for the name sheep
• 37:42
  Thrills. And honestly, in my case today he was going to sheep thrills.
• 37:46
  Yeah. And I'm gonna agree with Paula when you say sediment, you're
• 37:51
  not talking there's actually stuff floating in the wine. You're just saying the taste.
• 37:55
  It just feels like it leaves something on your tongue. That's it's the
• 38:00
  tannins that makes your tongue these buds flare up. So I call it fre
• 38:05
  tongue. I am for sure going to have a headache later if it's that
• 38:08
  much. Sorry, y'all worth it. Well, I'm going to tell you
• 38:17
  my case is a recent case, oh boy, And I am going to
• 38:28
  apologize now. I'm not gonna get overly political, but I am going to
• 38:32
  tell you there's something about women, marrig who do the shit that one of
• 38:38
  these politicians did that. I'm going to apologize now and say she bad,
• 38:47
  she bad. Bring it so. Aaron von Ingler was born May nineteen eighty
• 39:01
  two in a Dahoe and he was not Dahoe. Somebody else was the hoe.
• 39:07
  But Daho means I'm thirty five cents. I'm cheap. That's my price.
• 39:16
  Doesn't go up with inflation, Oh it doesn't, okay, but no.
• 39:22
  He served in the US Army and he graduated from the University of Alabama
• 39:25
  with a double major in political science and history, nor dumpkidd, Hey,
• 39:35
  I mean he's edumicated, right, and he was in the army. Now,
• 39:40
  he was appointed by the Governor of Idaho to phill of vacancy in the
• 39:45
  House of Representatives in June of twenty twenty. But before we get into his
• 39:52
  political career, at first, I have to tell you that he could probably
• 39:57
  run for president one day. But anyway, he had a criminal record before
• 40:01
  he was ever appointed to the House of Representatives. All right, buy wouldn't
• 40:13
  get one for you, Buffy. So Beta guys, you heard me.
• 40:20
  He had a criminal record when the governor appointed him to the House. So
• 40:28
  it's not like he went in squeaky clean. Okay. He was charged with
• 40:35
  fifteen different offenses between ninety six and twenty thirteen. So it's trend. Really,
• 40:42
  it makes sense. It makes sense he was brought in with fifteen and
• 40:45
  now we've got somebody trying to get in with ninety one. It just tracks.
• 40:49
  It works. He was charged and convicted. Now, his first encounter
• 40:57
  with the law was when he was just fourteen years old. Okay. He
• 41:01
  was arrested for driving without a license and driving an unregistered vehicle. Now that's
• 41:07
  not outrageously horrible and totally forgivable. In my book, he was fourteen,
• 41:14
  took his friend's parents car and went for a joy ride. Right, I'm
• 41:17
  okay with that. I mean, I'm serious. I can forgive that.
• 41:22
  You're fourteen, you're young, you're dumb. You know, nobody was hurt.
• 41:30
  Yeah, we're not going to finish that statement. I thought of that
• 41:32
  when I said it. But like I said, that wasn't his only interaction
• 41:40
  with the law. But before, you know, then graduated high school and
• 41:45
  he went into the army in two thousand and when he was eighteen. Now,
• 41:50
  he said he needed to deal with some things. So my take,
• 41:53
  he thought going into the military would help him grow up, giving him some
• 42:00
  ructured in his life. Right. So he was honorably discharged, So he
• 42:05
  got out. He didn't do anything too bad. But he did later say
• 42:10
  about his time in the military that it was thankless and he called the conflict
• 42:15
  in Afghanistan the ultimate betrayal. And he made those statements after he was in
• 42:25
  the house hold on Okay, But okay, so he waited till he was
• 42:31
  done with the military, right, Yeah, he waited till he was out.
• 42:37
  Okay, No, Well, and that makes sense. The whole house
• 42:38
  thing. Well, I mean, if you're trying to get hits on some
• 42:42
  website, that's the way to do it now. But here's the thing.
• 42:45
  After leaving the army, he was arrested and charged over a five year period.
• 42:51
  Okay, included drunk driving, dispensing alcohol to miners, drug possession,
• 43:00
  and consoled weapon while under the influence. Okay, now a better drunk driving.
• 43:07
  Oh but this is even better. His drunk driving charge he said,
• 43:10
  it was just me being careless driving on wet tires. No, you were
• 43:17
  the wet one, not the tires, like, and then he said some
• 43:24
  of the other you know, charges were He was arrested at the hands of
• 43:30
  an ex girlfriend's new boyfriend. He was arrested at the hands of an ex
• 43:37
  In other words, the ex girlfriend's new boyfriend caused him to be arrested.
• 43:44
  It didn't go into details, but that was his excuse, and that was
• 43:46
  his story and he stuck to it. Sure, sure, and yeah,
• 43:52
  that's funny. He didn't go on and kill anybody, but still he gave
• 43:58
  alcohol to minors, drug possession, a concealed weapon. I mean, it
• 44:04
  was twelve different offenses during that five year period. I mean your pastor your
• 44:15
  limit. I mean, guys, I am a firm believer and second chances,
• 44:21
  and I mean, people make mistakes and you grow from them and you
• 44:24
  learn. But please, I don't understand how on the hell and why a
• 44:30
  governor would appoint a person with that lengthy So the drug was marijuana and something
• 44:45
  else I would say, like sax or something, but he lied and said
• 44:49
  he had a med card and he didn't. But also sanax or valume something
• 44:55
  like that. That may have been a prescription. Like I said, I'm
• 45:00
  okay with people making mistakes, but could the governor have not found somebody different
• 45:06
  to a point, because it wasn't an election. He was appoint You got
• 45:10
  somebody in your pocket. You've got somebody in your pocket, and this guy
• 45:15
  was in his pocket. So that's who went. So it's probably why I'm
• 45:21
  not a governor. I mean, like I said, if it was just
• 45:28
  a DDBI, if it was you know, I don't know, he shouldn't
• 45:37
  have been appointed. But anyway, he should have been sleeping, he should
• 45:42
  have been something. Yeah, I mean, he should have been But so
• 45:46
  he was appointed after the death of the previous house. Now here's where it
• 45:52
  gets crazy. It came out later. During the first few months of his
• 46:00
  term, two other females reported that he made them feel uncomfortable with his advances.
• 46:09
  He emailed one and had asked her out she didn't wear a wedding ring,
• 46:15
  and she finally said, I wouldn't be comfortable I'm married, So he
• 46:20
  backed off. But there was one he followed her around an event and she
• 46:25
  kept trying to get away and he kept following her. Nope. So after
• 46:35
  those complaints were made, lawmakers, two different lawmakers talked to him and said,
• 46:42
  hey, you need to be careful about being flirty or overly nice with
• 46:46
  coworkers or while you're at work in a professional setting. And he was told
• 46:52
  it's not a great idea to date anyone that you work with or in the
• 46:59
  house. And he got very defensive, and he said that he was tall,
• 47:04
  good looking, and that there was not a law from preventing him.
• 47:08
  Here's here's what they should have done. They should have turned him around ten
• 47:13
  times, aimed him towards Marjorie Taylor Green and let him go and see what
• 47:15
  happens. That's what the that's what they should have done. I would have
• 47:22
  that's listen, make it work to your advantage. I need like I need
• 47:29
  that. I need that to happen. I mean, I appreciate that someone
• 47:36
  took him aside and said, hey, you're new to the house. You
• 47:39
  don't know how it works here. Let me give you some ideas. You
• 47:44
  probably shouldn't do this. Right. Well, guess what, guys, He
• 47:49
  didn't listen, and in March of twenty twenty one, a nineteen year old
• 47:55
  intern reported that she had been sexually assaulted von b von Ingler while out on
• 48:02
  a consensual date. He's he sounds his name, I don't name, sounds
• 48:10
  like a like a doctor from a country during a different time period. We'll
• 48:15
  just leave it at that. That's all I'll say. That's all I'll say.
• 48:20
  Yeah. Now, the committee they did pull up in, they gathered
• 48:23
  in the Legislative Ethics hearing was scheduled. Now. During this hearing, he
• 48:30
  refused to answer questions and invoked his Fifth Amendment. Right. All he would
• 48:37
  say was that the sexual encounter was consensual. This this guy sounds like like
• 48:43
  any George Santos was straight, Like seriously, he does. Like it's just
• 48:54
  lie after lie after lie, after avoiding after avoiding. It sounds like George
• 48:59
  Santos if you straight, yes, right, And now, the victim,
• 49:05
  identified as Jane Doe, testified that she told von Ellinger no in several ways,
• 49:12
  and she even tried to do it in that cute, little non confrontational
• 49:16
  way. Hey I'm not on birth control. Hey I'm not groomed down there,
• 49:23
  you know. She when note didn't work, she tried to put it
• 49:28
  off and like, maybe next time, you know, just kick him in
• 49:31
  the balls. I mean, she was nineteen, so she was young.
• 49:36
  And she went on to testify he pinned her down, forced her to perform
• 49:40
  oral sex and then she moved her head away. She was like, that's
• 49:45
  nasty. So then he masturbated on her. Now this is like the beginning
• 49:52
  of a psychopath. Well, I'm gonna warn you all now I'm about to
• 49:59
  get a little bunny boiler. They're warning us now two minutes ago. Now
• 50:07
  you think what he did was bad, it gets worse, It gets worse.
• 50:15
  And that's where I'm going to get bunny boiler. Because now we all
• 50:22
  know. Sexual assault victims are not identified. Right, press does not give
• 50:28
  out their names, their photos, do not give that to the public.
• 50:32
  Right. And when she testified in front of the Ethics Committee. She was
• 50:37
  even behind a curtain to protect her. Even though they probably all knew her
• 50:39
  because she was an intern, right, they still protected her identity well,
• 50:45
  Lo and behold. Another House representative, Priscilla Gettings, shared her name,
• 50:55
  her photo, and personal information with the media. All of her constituents.
• 51:06
  What uh huh. A woman who's married, says she's a Christian, has
• 51:14
  kids, gave out this teenager guy she was nineteen, told them all of
• 51:21
  her information. When she walked out from testifying, people tracked her down and
• 51:30
  were videoing her screaming things at her because they knew who she was. Because
• 51:36
  this other representative and his attorney provided the victim's information. Here's something that I've
• 51:50
  learned. If somebody has to tell you that they're Christian, they're not,
• 51:57
  now, guys. She even sent out newsletters with the girl's information, and
• 52:06
  then a newspaper an online news source printed a story. This representative put it
• 52:15
  on her personal Facebook page. Okay, guys, she I mean, okay,
• 52:27
  let me I'll come back to this woman because I just literally so let
• 52:31
  me go back. So chaindo testified, so von Engler, he sought her
• 52:37
  out. He repeatedly talked to her came by her office and asked to take
• 52:45
  her out to dinner, and she thought she's an intern. I would network.
• 52:51
  I'm making eight dollars an hour. He's gonna take me to a nice
• 52:53
  restaurant. Right, we're going to talk about stuff. Okay, there is
• 53:00
  nothing wrong with that while this miss pos Priscilla Gettings testified that she was accosted
• 53:08
  by Jane Doe after she sent out newsletters to her constituents making horrible remarks about
• 53:16
  Jane Doe and even referred to her as a honey trap, and she wanted
• 53:27
  security to protect her because Jane Doe yelled at her and said, you call
• 53:36
  yourself a woman of integrity, that you're a Christian woman, yet you are
• 53:39
  destroying my life. I am a teenager. Why are you doing this?
• 53:45
  Getting said It was all very loud, and she asked for security to protect
• 53:50
  her. Have you have you seen one of the things that this woman has
• 53:58
  voted for though or introduced me? Oh oh uh, Yeah. She's against
• 54:02
  vaccines. She doesn't want to yeah, I talk about that. She doesn't
• 54:07
  want to give school teachers raises. She wants she wants, she wants meningitis
• 54:15
  to come back. That's what she wants. She wants the block requirements that
• 54:19
  incoming twelth grade students get meningitis booster vaccination. Yeah. She also wants to
• 54:25
  remove a wilderness study area of status from hundreds of thousands of acres for industrial
• 54:30
  use. Wait, she voted against. She voted against a one point one
• 54:37
  billion dollar bill to increase salaries for Idaho public school teachers and didn't want to
• 54:43
  take money from the federal government for early childhood education because she thought they would
• 54:47
  want to put input. This woman is the ultimate Karen. She's the ultimate
• 54:55
  Karen. Truly insincerely. Did you see one of the commit she sits on
• 55:00
  was the Human Resource Amber Alert Guys, she sat on the Human Resource Committee.
• 55:08
  Yes, no she didn't, Yes she did. She sounds lovely,
• 55:16
  guys. She on her Facebook page, she put a link to the article
• 55:22
  a photo and personal information of a victim who had been sexually assaulted her.
• 55:35
  Guys, if it would have been me, I wouldn't have just yelled at
• 55:38
  you. I would have thrown a drink in your face. I mean,
• 55:47
  please, somebody explain to me how you are an elected member of the House
• 55:53
  and you're on the Human Resource Committee and you release a victim's information. Oh,
• 56:08
  other people got the UMBER alert too. I didn't look at it.
• 56:12
  Since we're live, anybody want to share where it is. But so I
• 56:20
  just now, here's the other thing dearing the ethics thing, other Republican females.
• 56:27
  And they didn't give the information about who it was, but they said
• 56:31
  that Jane Doe was flirting because they saw her flip her hair. So I
• 56:44
  am going to just go on the record right now and say I don't give
• 56:47
  a shit if somebody is flirting. I am the biggest flirt. I flirt
• 56:52
  with males, females, dogs, cats. I just flirt. And I
• 56:58
  don't care if you can sensually kiss somebody. I don't care if you are
• 57:02
  consensually down to do the dirty. The minute you say no, I don't
• 57:08
  want to, you better damn well stop because no means no. And for
• 57:17
  another woman to sit there and say, oh, but I saw her flip
• 57:23
  her hair, she was flirting. Yes, I'm an equal opportunity. S
• 57:30
  flirt in different species. But guys, it just bothers me. This woman
• 57:37
  has two kids. She spouts that she's a Christian, But yet you think
• 57:45
  it's okay for a woman to be sexually assaulted a nineteen year old girl.
• 57:51
  She's an intern. He is twice her age in a place of power.
• 58:00
  I didn't think that they made panties that tight. Because she she, She
• 58:08
  is the proof that nobody should have to tell you over and over and spout
• 58:13
  over and over. I'm a Christian. I'm a good person. I'm a
• 58:15
  good person. I'm a good person. I hate teachers, and I hate
• 58:17
  minute, I hate vaccines, and I want people to die. But I'm
• 58:21
  a Christian. I'm a Christian. Here's some information, but I'm a Christian.
• 58:27
  It doesn't work. Yeah, So sorry to get a little bunny boiler.
• 58:31
  That just women. We need to do a better job of supporting other
• 58:36
  women. I don't care what your position is. There is no reason to
• 58:40
  not help other women. Now. If the woman's a bunny boiler and has
• 58:46
  killed somebody, of course you don't need to help her up. Okay,
• 58:51
  use your an got kill somebody to be a bunny boiler. That's true,
• 58:54
  that is true. But you do not call a sexual assault victim a honeypop,
• 59:00
  you know. Now. He was suspended by the Ethics Committee for the
• 59:10
  rest of the session without pay, with a recommendation of expulsion, and they
• 59:17
  said that it was not due to the fact he had done something criminally wrong,
• 59:25
  but they suspended him because it was conduct to unbecoming, which I get.
• 59:31
  They are not the people who can send him to jail. He resigned.
• 59:37
  Well, police did a full investigation and on September ninth, twenty twenty
• 59:43
  one, a warrant was issued for Aaron von Ellinger's arrest. Now he called
• 59:50
  an attorney, a new attorney a couple of days after the warrant was issued,
• 59:54
  told the attorney he was out of the country on vacation. His attorney
• 1:00:00
  was probably guys. His attorney said, oh, it took him six months.
• 1:00:09
  This is a warrant that you can get out, you know, no
• 1:00:12
  bail. Oh a couple of weeks. You're coming back in a couple of
• 1:00:15
  weeks. No problem, right, Well, apparently it was a problem because
• 1:00:22
  on his flight back, his flight got detoured and he had a layover in
• 1:00:27
  Atlanta, Georgia. He was arrested for being a fugitive trying to run.
• 1:00:35
  I was like, yeah, that attorney was wrong and probably should not be
• 1:00:40
  given advice. I'm just gonna say. Now he stood trial and he was
• 1:00:51
  convicted of raping the nineteen year old Jane Doe and was sentenced to twenty years
• 1:00:54
  in prison. Who I have to serve at least eight years before he up
• 1:00:59
  before being eligible for parole, and then he must register as a sex offender.
• 1:01:06
  Okay, now I'm going to just say it would surprise me. He's
• 1:01:12
  filed appeals on some pretty thin things. I don't see those appeals happening.
• 1:01:19
  So he's going to spend at least eight years and hopefully he doesn't drop the
• 1:01:27
  soap. Okay, uh here, sorry, real quick. You had mentioned
• 1:01:37
  the Amber alert and Polly had sent this to me. Oh here you go,
• 1:01:42
  yes please, Oh it's oh yeah, it's in Texas. Hello,
• 1:01:46
  that's where you lived. His name is no uh oh, he's a year
• 1:01:52
  old. Is it a family abduction? It looks like it. Let's the
• 1:02:00
  vehicle's two thousand and seven white GMC yukon plate STM seventy ninety seven. Texas
• 1:02:05
  Center for the Missing is updated the Houston Regional Ambreller. Uh he comes with
• 1:02:09
  one year old. He was last known to be with his thirty eight year
• 1:02:14
  old mother on Tuesday, February sixth, at approximately twelve thirty pm. Eleven
• 1:02:20
  four hundred block of Space Center Boulevard in Houston, Texas. I'd imagine that's
• 1:02:23
  near Uh he was NASA. Yeah, he was last seen wearing a navy
• 1:02:29
  shirt and flower print pants. So just uh here, here he is and
• 1:02:39
  he is adorable. Come on now, is he's got a little he's got
• 1:02:47
  a little hair tie on the top of his head. He does. He
• 1:02:51
  is cute. I mean, he's been missing since he's been missing since today,
• 1:02:55
  but they said the last time he was seen was on the sixth.
• 1:03:00
  I'm not quite Maybe I don't know. They're supposed to be returned mom.
• 1:03:05
  Maybe he was supposed to return him today or something and she didn't picked him
• 1:03:08
  up two days ago. Because there's mom, she's thirty eight. Mama,
• 1:03:19
  Well, mama's not aging. Well no, no, no, no,
• 1:03:24
  Tyler Pera can give up his day job. Well that was probably inappropriate.
• 1:03:30
  I shouldn't have said that, but here we are. Oops. No,
• 1:03:35
  thanks anyways for sharing. And I will put an alert and keep an eye
• 1:03:42
  on that, and I will probably do some deep digging. I will say
• 1:03:46
  this, the area of Houston he went missing in is closer to Galveston and
• 1:03:53
  stuff like that, so they will probably pull in La Poor Galveston in Houston
• 1:04:01
  because of where he's at, which is really good law enforcement. It's not
• 1:04:06
  going to be just Harris County. So no offense Harris County. But we
• 1:04:12
  know how you've done, not shit for Chase Lackey. But that's okay.
• 1:04:18
  Boulevards is like a sonic. Yeah, well, I do have some good
• 1:04:28
  news in this case. That's good. I like that to me, it's
• 1:04:34
  good news. So Jane Doe has sued miss pos Priscilla Gettings along with Aaron
• 1:04:44
  von Ellinger for outing and harassing her after coming forward and the following it was
• 1:04:50
  released about the online publication sharing all that, also saying getting used her a
• 1:04:59
  fish legislation email to send out weekly updates that included derogatory and insulting comments about
• 1:05:11
  Jane Doe and she called the whole ethics process and me to witch hunt and
• 1:05:17
  Jane and Doe is seeking an undisclosed amount of money, and guys, I
• 1:05:24
  personally hope she gets a buttload of money and she uses it to deal with
• 1:05:29
  her trauma, live her best life. And I hope she bankrupts Gettings.
• 1:05:41
  I hope too, she gets a lot of money and goes on and have
• 1:05:48
  a good life. But I will tell you, guys, this case reminded
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  me of why I despise ninety five percent of politicians. Yep, they're not
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  great. They're not. I think you get into politics. I think a
• 1:06:06
  lot of people get into it with good intentions and then they drink the kool
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  aid. Yes, ideally, ideally, I think there are plenty that get
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  in with bad intentions. I think you have to be a certain kind of
• 1:06:24
  person. Yeah, people who have Yes, people who want power should not
• 1:06:30
  have it right now. I when I was eating dinner tonight, the news
• 1:06:35
  was on and they were talking about some stuff, and I told double H,
• 1:06:39
  I said, I think you would be a great president. Here's why.
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  I said. You're smart, you're rational. I said, but you'd
• 1:06:47
  have to learn not to tell them to fuck off every day. I don't
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  know. We're for the laugh guy and he's said, he goes, there's
• 1:06:58
  a lot of people that would be great presidents. He goes, it's all
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  the other bs you have to put up with and what your family has to
• 1:07:06
  go through. I mean, just look at presidents when they come in and
• 1:07:12
  when they go out. You see how much they have. I mean,
• 1:07:15
  they look terrible. It's like a listen, if you run marathons, that's
• 1:07:17
  fine. If you're a professional marathon runner, though, have you ever seen
• 1:07:21
  a professional marathon runner? They look like some of the most unhealthy, Like
• 1:07:26
  they age so fast it's incredible. It's almost like you're not supposed to do
• 1:07:32
  that. But but that being said, I mean, yeah, they just
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  look horrible coming out. So much has changed in just the four years now.
• 1:07:45
  Maybe it's the age that they go in, but the reality is,
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  I think it's so much stress. It is, and you think about it.
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  Every decision you make, you know you're gonna piss off a lot of
• 1:07:54
  people, and you have a lot of different people's lives in your hands,
• 1:07:59
  and you also know that you really don't have that much power because it's got
• 1:08:04
  to go to another group to do it. Yeah, I mean, right
• 1:08:10
  now, the way we're at, no matter what decisions made, fifty percent
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  is gonna be pissed. Yep. So well that's my case. I I
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  don't know if I'm more pissed off at what he did or what his female
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  constituents did, especially Priscilla who outed the girl and put her name out there.
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  Because to me, that's almost worse. Yeah, because yeah, do
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  you know how many sexual assault victims don't come forward because worried about that kind
• 1:08:56
  of stuff. And now that this woman and a lot did person Now she
• 1:09:00
  did run for lieutenant governor and did not get it last year or in twenty
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  twenty two. Good good, But it bothers me that she did that to
• 1:09:14
  be in an elected official, because that set sexual assault victims back so far,
• 1:09:21
  because now the next time someone's assaulted by a representative, a person of
• 1:09:30
  power, they're gonna be scared to come forward. That these folks have been
• 1:09:38
  so emboldened by the like brazen behavior of late that they feel like they can
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  just do whatever the hell they want to and be fine. And it's kind
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  of up to us to prove that wrong. So, you know, but
• 1:09:59
  that just it just sickens me that it don't take offense of this males,
• 1:10:05
  especially I would expect a male to do something like that, not a female,
• 1:10:11
  not a mother, that's I think. I mean, yeah, so
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  I have a problem with that. I'm microphone, I spent enough money on
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  you. Please No maybe okay, Uh, I'm taking us back to the
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  late sixties with my case, and uh, I am covering chap Equittic.
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  And if you've never heard what you might not get to hear it. But
• 1:10:58
  have you never heard of it? I know if you never heard of it,
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  well get ready. So the Chapiquittic Incident was a tragic and controversial event
• 1:11:08
  that took place on July eighteenth, nineteen sixty nine, involving Senator Edward M.
• 1:11:14
  Ted Kennedy, the youngest brother of President John F. Kennedy, and
• 1:11:16
  a young campaign worker, Oh Kopecney. It occurred against the backdrop of a
• 1:11:24
  tumultuous political and social landscape of the late nineteen sixties, and at the time
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  Ted Kennedy was a prominent figure in American politics and was the last surviving son
• 1:11:32
  of Joseph and Rose. So the incident occurred on Chapiquittic Island that's part of
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  Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts. The details of the event in its aftermath have been
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  the subject of scrutiny debate, and they've consistently been the subject of scrutiny and
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  debate. The Kennedys are silencing me, Yes they are. They are trying
• 1:11:59
  again. It's Jen, Hi, Jen, It's so good to see you
• 1:12:05
  and your poppers on your profile picture. Okay, so let's just talk a
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  little bit about chap Equidic. It's a peninsula and it's an occasional island off
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  the Eastern Vineyard. It's a peninsula but also an occasional island. Okay,
• 1:12:23
  that's not what I heard. But okay, what did you know what?
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  I'm not gonna ask. I'm not gonna asks. So breaches occur due to
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  hurricanes and strong storms that separates the island for periods at a time. In
• 1:12:38
  nineteen sixty nine when this happened, it was a peninsula for seven years until
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  nineteen seventy six. Visitors show up for the beaches, cycling, hiking,
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  nature tours, birding, whatever the budge that is, I guess looking at
• 1:12:54
  put a bird on it. The My Toy Gardens, Sure, that's that's
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  why I go anywhere. Gray tits. They're fantastic, They're wonderful birds.
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  So My Toy Gardens is a small Japanese garden attraction that's there as well.
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  The island was once mainly the home territory of the chap Equitic Band of Wapanog
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  Native Americans or indigenous people, and remained theirs into the nineteenth century. Colonists
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  settled in nineteen or in sixteen forty two, and they quickly peed on the
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  island and said that's ours, because that's what we do. We pee on
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  the island and we say it's ours, that's mine. So on the island
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  there are fifteen thousand year round inhabitants as of two thousand and three. Now
• 1:13:45
  when summer comes though, it surges to one hundred and five thousand people in
• 1:13:53
  it, which is wild, just insane, and there continues to be growth
• 1:13:57
  over the decades now. Ted kenn He was born Edward Moore Kennedy on February
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  twenty second, nineteen thirty two, in Boston, Massachusetts, and he was
• 1:14:08
  the youngest of nine children born to Joseph P. Kennedy, Senior and Rose
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  Fitzgerald Kennedy. His family was one of America's more prominent political ones. His
• 1:14:18
  family was a success or. His father was a successful businessman, and his
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  brothers, John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy both served as US senators and
• 1:14:26
  Attorney General, with John becoming the thirty fifth President of the United States.
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  Ted Kennedy attended Harvard University, where he excelled both academically and socially, but
• 1:14:36
  his academic pursuits were interrupted when he was expelled from Harvard in nineteen fifty one
• 1:14:41
  dude to cheating on a Spanish exam. Ah, he didn't cheat very well.
• 1:14:46
  He got got for real, like if you if you're gonna cheat,
• 1:14:53
  do it spectacularly. Shit, yes, for he just feels really comfortable with
• 1:15:03
  you, Okay. So he ended up going into the US Army and he
• 1:15:08
  was there for two years. He was readmitted to Harvard and he ultimately graduated
• 1:15:11
  with a degree in government in nineteen fifty six. In nineteen sixty two,
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  he entered politics by successfully running for US Senate Zeat formerly helped by his brother
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  John, who had become president. Throughout his early political career, Kennedy he
• 1:15:26
  worked to establish his own identity and legislative agenda. In November of sixty three,
• 1:15:30
  his brother jfk as we know, died after being assassinated. As he
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  wrote in a moto kid through Daley Plaza in downtown Dallas, Texas. On
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  June fifth, nineteen sixty eight, Robert F. Kennedy that's five years later,
• 1:15:44
  was shot by sir Han Sirhan in the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles,
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  California, and was pronounced dead the next day. Ted eventually became a champion
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  of progressive causes such as healthcare reform, civil rights, immigration reform, and
• 1:15:58
  he also became known as the l of the Senate for his passionate advocacy and
• 1:16:01
  legislative achievements during his nearly five decades in office. But not yet, Let's
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  go back on the night of July eighteenth, nineteen sixty nine, just over
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  a year after the murder of his brother, Ted Kennedy. Sorry, hi,
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  I put a comment on the wrong spot. Columba's matter. They do,
• 1:16:29
  all comments matter, so okay. Just a year over a year after
• 1:16:32
  the murder of his brother, Ted Kennedy hosted a party. It was a
• 1:16:35
  reunion for several individuals who worked on his brother Robert's nineteen sixty eight presidential campaign.
• 1:16:44
  It was an informal gathering with a relaxed atmosphere that the attendees included six
• 1:16:48
  young women who worked in what was known as the boiler Room. I thought
• 1:16:53
  you might like this part, which was a campaign office that handled logistical details
• 1:16:58
  for Robert Kennedy's campaign. Because of this, they were known as the boiler
• 1:17:01
  Room. Girls. No, it was the precursor to the Buddy boiler.
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  M. I'm going to refrain from saying what I'm thinking. I don't know
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  what you're thinking, but here we are one of your Ah yeah, yeah,
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  that Kennedys did, Yes, they sure did. One of these women
• 1:17:28
  was Mary Joe Kopeckney, who was a campaign worker for Robert Now. Mary
• 1:17:32
  Joe was born July twenty sixth, nineteen forty, in Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania.
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  She grew up in a close knit family with her parents, Joseph and
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  Gwen Capecney, and four siblings. She graduated from Caldwell College for Women in
• 1:17:45
  New Jersey in nineteen sixty two and began working in political circles, eventually joining
• 1:17:49
  Robert Kennedy's nineteen sixty eight presidential campaign as a secretary because sixties. Apparently,
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  the night of the party ted and Mary Joe left in his Oldsmobile Delmont eighty
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  eight. According to Kennedy's account, he took a wrong turn onto an unpaved
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  road leading to a secluded beach. I just took a wrong turn to a
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  secluded beach with one woman after a party. It was end. It wasn't
• 1:18:21
  actuality. It was an accident. He so he attempted to navigate the narrow
• 1:18:28
  Dyke bridge. He lost control of the car, causing it to overturn and
• 1:18:31
  land upside down and pouch a pond. That sounds terrifying, absolutely terrifying.
• 1:18:41
  But but Kennedy managed to escape the submerged card swim to the surface. Of
• 1:18:45
  course he did. Copecney remained trapped inside. Uh and and and and the
• 1:18:51
  initial statement was despite his efforts to rescue her, including diving back into the
• 1:18:57
  water multiple times, he was unsuccessful. But that didn't didn't happen right away.
• 1:19:00
  The diving didn't happen right away. Why did the diving not happen right
• 1:19:05
  away? Because when Kennedy escaped the car, he didn't dive back down.
• 1:19:10
  He returned on foot to the cottage where the party was, where he gathered
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  two friends, Joseph Gargan and Paul Markham to attempt to rescue and then they
• 1:19:18
  went back married. Joe's body wasn't recovered until the following morning from the submerged
• 1:19:24
  vehicle. You can only imagine the questions that were raised due to the delay
• 1:19:28
  in reporting. Yeah, thanks, yep. Uh So the Chapiquittic incident had
• 1:19:38
  Sorry, I just have to say, how does a person have to have
• 1:19:44
  been raised that their first thought when they go into the water with someone else
• 1:19:51
  to run and take care of yourself first. Let's just say the Kennedys weren't
• 1:20:01
  as squeaky clean as a lot of people think. I don't care what your
• 1:20:09
  last name is. That's just screwed up. Bells is with me, Bells
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  is with me being Kennedy. That's how you do it. That's how you
• 1:20:20
  know. I'll take some all of it. Please, Kennedy's be Kennedy and
• 1:20:33
  is so sad. Growing up, I thought the Kennedy's were amazing until I
• 1:20:42
  got old enough to do a little more research than what I was told by
• 1:20:47
  people, like some of the stuff that they pushed for. I mean the
• 1:20:54
  Space race, I mean they However, you can't just be yo oh ho
• 1:21:03
  boy oh boy. Yes, but you know Ted wasn't invincible. It had
• 1:21:12
  significant legal, political, and personal consequences for him. Now that being said,
• 1:21:17
  you're gonna get angry with this love lovely paragraph here. Legally, he
• 1:21:21
  was charged with leaving the scene of an accident causing injury, which could have
• 1:21:27
  resulted in a substantial prison sentence. However, in a polea bargain that just
• 1:21:30
  happened to be passed around and arranged by his legal team, he pleaded guilty
• 1:21:34
  to a lesser charge of leaving the scene of an accident, and he received
• 1:21:38
  a suspended sentence of two months in jail. In the suspended sentence spent,
• 1:21:42
  he served no time in bar behind bars at all? Whatsoever? Okay,
• 1:21:47
  wait a minute, how is it an injury If a person died, they
• 1:21:57
  probably didn't have Well, I don't know. I don't know when vehicular manslaughter
• 1:22:00
  came into play, and was it vehicular manslaughter if they're with I guess,
• 1:22:03
  so I don't know. I really don't know. But it says causing injury
• 1:22:08
  is not entering. Causing death is different than injury. In my opinion,
• 1:22:14
  it's probably because they didn't have enough to charge him with something, knowing they
• 1:22:17
  probably didn't have enough to know that he ran off the road belligerently or was
• 1:22:24
  drunk, and so they had to charge him with something though because people were
• 1:22:28
  calling for it. So they suspended his sentence and basically nothing happened for somebody
• 1:22:31
  he killed exactly. Okay, now, just making trum up to speed.
• 1:22:39
  I mean almost worse though. And if you think about the Kennedy's right,
• 1:22:42
  they all wanted to be president, every single one of them. Politically,
• 1:22:45
  it did become a barrier to his presidential ambitions. And I know that sounds
• 1:22:49
  like, oh, how sad, but like you've literally killed like that that
• 1:22:54
  dream, like you will never live up to your brother. Now that word
• 1:22:59
  is that does make up for what he did? No, not not at
• 1:23:01
  all. But I mean this was a this was a punch to the balls
• 1:23:05
  as he opted, he opted not to run in. It's not like somebody
• 1:23:12
  did it to him. It's not enough of a consequence that he didn't get
• 1:23:18
  to run for presidency because he killed somebody. That's fair. That's fair.
• 1:23:24
  That's fair. So, as you can imagine, the media coverage of this
• 1:23:30
  was insane. Newspapers and television stations were providing detailed accounts of the incident and
• 1:23:33
  its aftermath, both of which weren't really known. The public's perception of Kennedy
• 1:23:40
  was influenced by the ambiguity of it all, as well as his delayed reporting.
• 1:23:43
  It raised questions about privilege accountability, the extent to which public figures are
• 1:23:46
  held responsible for their actions, which it is kind of still a conversation we're
• 1:23:51
  having today because apparently we don't learn. But let's avoid the speculation now and
• 1:24:00
  let's talk about the investigation. The official investigation into the incident was led by
• 1:24:03
  Edgar Town Police Department and other law enforcement agencies. The primary findings included the
• 1:24:10
  following. The police report detailed the accident's reconstruction based on available evidence. According
• 1:24:14
  to the reconstruction, Kennedy's car veered off the narrow Dyke Bridge into Poocha Pond.
• 1:24:18
  The visa landed upside down in the water. Brilliant, great job,
• 1:24:23
  you've literally told me nothing. Kennedy did not report the so these are just
• 1:24:29
  the things that they wrote down. Didn't report the accident to authorities until the
• 1:24:32
  following morning. This delay raised questions about whether a more prompt response could have
• 1:24:38
  potentially saved Pacman's life. The police report documented the timeline, but they didn't
• 1:24:44
  report it till police till the next morning. Are we talking like twelve oh
• 1:24:48
  one? Are we talking like eight am? Then? But like literally the
• 1:24:54
  next morning. Yeah, I don't have the time, but he walked.
• 1:25:01
  It was bad enough that he walked back to his swanky cabin, right,
• 1:25:10
  but he didn't use the phone when he was there, yep, yep,
• 1:25:16
  yep. Uh so I never knew that. Uh yeah. So. The
• 1:25:26
  police report documented the timeline of events, including Kennedy's interactions with others after the
• 1:25:30
  accident. The report also included statements and testimonies from individuals who attended the party.
• 1:25:38
  These individuals, including Kennedy's friends Joseph Gargan and Paul Markham, provided information
• 1:25:43
  about the events leading up to the accident in Kennedy's behavior afterwards. The medical
• 1:25:47
  examiner's report determined that Mary Jo Kopecney died from drowning. The autopsy did not
• 1:25:51
  find evidence of other traumatic injuries that would suggest an alternative cause of death.
• 1:25:57
  The police report played a significant role in the legal proceedings against Kennedy. He
• 1:26:00
  was charged with leaving the scene of an accident causing injury, like I said,
• 1:26:04
  and the report provided the foundation for the prosecution's case. And we know
• 1:26:08
  how that ended up. But here's the thing. The police report was kind
• 1:26:12
  of lacking, and it didn't really fully dispel all the uncertainties surrounding the event,
• 1:26:15
  although it was quote detailed. The other thing is I can say that
• 1:26:19
  the police report said all of this. But if you're a Kennedy, you've
• 1:26:28
  got a little push. In Massachusetts, you got a little push. And
• 1:26:32
  these the reports were. I mean, if what i've is that a plane,
• 1:26:41
  it sounds like somebody's mowing the lawn. It's a plane. I heard
• 1:26:46
  it through my headphones. Though, like if if, even if it said
• 1:26:54
  all that it's said, the thing is like, it's not enough. It's
• 1:26:59
  just not enough. It's not a report, it's like a summary kind it's
• 1:27:02
  like an abstract that has no conclusion. So so what were some of the
• 1:27:10
  uncertainties cause of the accident. It's generally accepted the incident was an accident,
• 1:27:14
  but the specific factors that caused the car to leave the road never been definitely
• 1:27:17
  established. The actions after the accident, critics and skeptics have raised concerns about
• 1:27:24
  why he did not immediately report the incident or seek help, especially considering he
• 1:27:27
  wasn't far from the party where he could have obtained assistance from there. Now,
• 1:27:30
  I think Captain's right. I think he was sobering up timeline of v
• 1:27:34
  Did they question people and ask how many drinks he had? Was he stackering?
• 1:27:42
  Was he acting intoxicated. Did they do any of that? But that's
• 1:27:46
  the thing, right, So the report says that they I didn't see the
• 1:27:50
  full report. I don't if it's available. Somebody sent it to me.
• 1:27:55
  But like, either they will cover for him or the police won't report everything
• 1:28:00
  that they heard. He's a Kennedy, so right, right, So there
• 1:28:08
  are some accounts that suggest variations in the sequence of actions taken by Kennedy,
• 1:28:12
  leading to continued debate. The other thing is potential intoxication. There's always been
• 1:28:16
  questions about whether Kennedy was under the influence of alcohol or other substances at the
• 1:28:19
  time of the accident. While Kennedy acknowledged consuming alcohol at the party, there
• 1:28:27
  are uncertainties about the extent to which it may have impaired his judgment. I'm
• 1:28:31
  sure there was more than just alcohol there. In terms of political motivations.
• 1:28:39
  Here's kind of where we get into some of the conspiracy theories, right,
• 1:28:43
  the various alternative narratives and theories they've emerged over the years. They each proposed
• 1:28:47
  different scenarios for the events leading up to and following the accident. Some conspiracy
• 1:28:53
  theories suggest that there was a political motive behind the incident. The narrative proposes
• 1:28:57
  that Kennedy was set up or targeted, So it's not Kennedy who did the
• 1:29:00
  thing. He was set up or targeted by political adversaries who sought to tarnish
• 1:29:04
  to Kennedy family's reputation and hindered Ted's political career. There is no credible evidence
• 1:29:12
  to support these claims. He was striving, yeah right. One of the
• 1:29:23
  most persistent conspiracy theories is that Kennedy and his associates intentionally delayed reporting the accident
• 1:29:28
  and engaged in cover up to minimize the political fallout. Critics argue that the
• 1:29:32
  delay in reporting allowed time allowed time to strategize a response and manage the narrative.
• 1:29:39
  However, the official investigations did not find evidence of a deliberate cover up.
• 1:29:43
  Just the fact that he didn't go back down to try and get hurt,
• 1:29:45
  just the fact that he walked towards the cabin, just the fact that
• 1:29:48
  he didn't call anybody in the cabin like that screams cover up to me,
• 1:29:55
  absolutely, because what else would you do. I mean, it would be
• 1:30:02
  different if you come running in going I need help, I need help,
• 1:30:08
  you know. But he didn't probably sat down and had a cocktail. Yeah,
• 1:30:15
  there are also some theories. What is in I'll let you finish telling
• 1:30:20
  theories before I asked my question. Okay, this is I was just wondering
• 1:30:25
  if there was a reason to get rid of her? Was there a reason
• 1:30:29
  somebody wanted her? Maybe? No, Yeah, I don't. I don't
• 1:30:35
  have an answer to that, and I don't. There's so many documentaries about
• 1:30:41
  this, and even the movie Chap Equittic, right, but there's really no
• 1:30:46
  solution because not all the information is known, either because it was covered up
• 1:30:51
  or it wasn't reported selectively or to that degree. It's just it's frustrating,
• 1:31:03
  and like, I'm almost done with this case. I know that they're so
• 1:31:10
  much. They're oh that I didn't know Bells with what with Roberts. No,
• 1:31:20
  that's not possible. This was a year later with Dead's. That's a
• 1:31:30
  good question. I have to look that up exactly. I'm gonna have to
• 1:31:43
  look into the into that Bells. That detail escaped me. I think now,
• 1:31:49
  Okay, I mean overall, I think that all in all, there
• 1:32:00
  can't you say there can't be, but I'm sure there's plenty. Oh yeah,
• 1:32:09
  I'm one of them. No, I'm not so. Chap Equittic still
• 1:32:13
  is going to be a controversial chapter in American political history because we'll never hear
• 1:32:15
  the truth. It's the subject of books, documentaries, films. If you
• 1:32:18
  haven't seen the movie from twenty eighteen called chap Equittic, it's actually pretty decent.
• 1:32:25
  The incident contributed to varying perceptions of Ted Kennedy's character. But but,
• 1:32:31
  and we lose sight of this. The bottom line is that it's a tragic
• 1:32:34
  event for Mary Jo Kopegny, and it had far reaching consequences for everyone involved,
• 1:32:41
  specifically her family, And it continues to be remembered as a moment that
• 1:32:45
  deeply impacted American politics and public perception. I just wish we would have Flippin
• 1:32:53
  learned from it. Those who don't understand history are doomed to repeat it.
• 1:33:01
  Yep, she was pregnant. She was pregnant with his child. In fact,
• 1:33:15
  I've been pregnant when the senator drove his mother's osmobile off the Dyke Bridge.
• 1:33:23
  So oh, it wasn't even his car, it was his mother's car.
• 1:33:27
  It was this what uh? What I got? Words? I got
• 1:33:31
  words or words for him? He's dead. I can't do anything about it,
• 1:33:36
  and what I have to say is sad is there's probably so much more
• 1:33:41
  to the story, and we will never ever know the honest, to god
• 1:33:48
  truth what happened, not at all. You know, there are very there
• 1:33:54
  are very few times where I advocate for a Herbert Hoover style investigation, But
• 1:34:01
  in this case, I advocate for a Hubert her Hubert Hoover how Hubert herv
• 1:34:16
  Herbert Hoover style? I did my mouth said, what the hell are you
• 1:34:26
  saying? Just then? So don't want to know how much her family received
• 1:34:34
  in compensation ten thousand dollars one hundred and forty one thousand dollars from his insurance
• 1:34:46
  company nineteen sixty nine. And the water was only six and a half feet
• 1:34:54
  deep. Oh that's even that's terrible. What is it today? It's one
• 1:35:02
  point one seven eight million today? Not enough? No, it's never been
• 1:35:10
  has never been enough. No, I haven't, but if you want to
• 1:35:15
  send some you're more than welcome to. Uh. It is the fuzzy talk,
• 1:35:19
  that's what it is. Now. Did he have any injuries from going
• 1:35:27
  into the water? Did he have like seatbelt bruises? Did his head hit
• 1:35:32
  the steer? I mean, or you may not remember, but Susan Smith
• 1:35:40
  who drove her kids off the water, but she wasn't in the car.
• 1:35:45
  Did he buy any chance? Did he actually go into the water. I
• 1:35:49
  see that his doctors informed him that he had suffered cerebral concussion and shock.
• 1:35:57
  Okay, yeah, yeah, that's that's what I was just wondering if he
• 1:36:04
  faked the whole thing. But again, you know what, his doctors can
• 1:36:09
  say that he has had that, But how far, how far, how
• 1:36:13
  far fetched is it for him to say, hey, write this down?
• 1:36:15
  Do you know what I mean? Like anything any We've all seen how housive
• 1:36:20
  cards, anything can be done with enough power and money. I forgot about
• 1:36:27
  a House of cards and Kevin Spacey. Kevin Spacey is a whole nother ball
• 1:36:32
  game. I'm just I don't remember what the president's name was in the show.
• 1:36:39
  I just remember Loser space Oh, the like Kevin Spacey's character. I
• 1:36:47
  forget. Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's Francis Underwood, Francis Underwe Yeah,
• 1:37:01
  yes, so Polly, you missed it. Yes, I painted that.
• 1:37:08
  I'm not going to say I painted it well, but I painted the
• 1:37:12
  lama with my granddaughter. I'm just saying you need to make another one,
• 1:37:15
  sign it and send it to Lama. Oh I should I need to do
• 1:37:24
  that, and then maybe the next one will be better because this one,
• 1:37:30
  we'll just say, its mouth looks like male testicles if you look up close.
• 1:37:36
  See, this is why I have see these these This is why I
• 1:37:40
  have my Google, my Google. The discord is my Google. Angie is
• 1:37:44
  a great Google. The judge refuses subpoena anyone who is at the party or
• 1:37:47
  share k key investigative documents, stymying the grand jury's efforts to determine whether Kennedy
• 1:37:54
  had been drinking. Of course not, of course really see I And then
• 1:38:03
  people are surprised at how many years later we had the Alex murdof stuff happened
• 1:38:09
  in his kids boat wreck. I mean, it just keeps happen it it
• 1:38:15
  it, yeah, and it will keep going because apparently power and money pay,
• 1:38:21
  and it does. There's nothing we can do about it as normies.
• 1:38:30
  Yeah. Look, see I'm funny. I'm so funny when you drink jen,
• 1:38:36
  I'm hysterical. I'm a funny bee. Yeah. I require substances to
• 1:38:46
  be hysterical. I mean you require substances. We require But the thing that
• 1:38:56
  gets me this that happening back in the you know, sixties, seventies.
• 1:39:00
  I get, how the hell does a shit still happen in twenty twenty two,
• 1:39:05
  twenty twenty three, twenty you know, he oh, Shanka, you
• 1:39:20
  totally should have done it, should have done it. But I just although
• 1:39:24
  you might have ended up back where yeah, you probably don't, you might
• 1:39:28
  not want to do that, yeah, But I just I don't understand how
• 1:39:36
  it can happen in today's modern time that money and power can still by the
• 1:39:45
  law. It's I mean, basically that's weak. Is you know, it's
• 1:39:50
  amazing how much our culture values the elite when the majority of people that I've
• 1:39:56
  ever known, who surround myself with do not in any way, shape or
• 1:40:00
  form, and and and it's it's just it speaks to the power that they
• 1:40:04
  have that no matter how many people say, this is ridiculous, you don't
• 1:40:10
  need a billion dollars Except for Taylor Swift, she earned it. It's just
• 1:40:15
  like I'm just being honest. Uh, she gives a lot of it away.
• 1:40:18
  She does, she does, and she literally worked for it. She
• 1:40:21
  didn't inherit it right. Uh, But like it's just one of those things
• 1:40:29
  where there are so many people that are just like you don't need that,
• 1:40:39
  right, there's not like Elon Musk could spend as like, I can't remember
• 1:40:43
  what the what the math is on that? Let me let me look it
• 1:40:45
  up. You had something to say, so you do that. Elon Musk
• 1:40:50
  is a pos who yep. Now that he half a mile outside of my
• 1:41:01
  neighborhood has built SpaceX and the boring company and now he's buying up old homes
• 1:41:09
  in our downtown area. I need Elon Musk to go away. And now
• 1:41:16
  he's smiling against baby Mama Grimes or something in Texas to try to take away
• 1:41:25
  her rights because she wants the kids to go to public school. So here's
• 1:41:35
  your stat Columbus landed in the Caribbean. Caribbean. However you say it,
• 1:41:42
  Well, this was two years ago. Okay, just supposed to two years
• 1:41:44
  ago, one hundred ninety two hundred and fifty five days ago. To be
• 1:41:46
  as wealthy as Elon Musk two years ago, you would have had to earn
• 1:41:51
  one point three eight one million dollars every day since then to have as much
• 1:41:59
  money as him. So if you're lucky enough to earn one hundred thousand dollars
• 1:42:02
  a year and work from the age of twenty till sixty eight, which is
• 1:42:08
  the most common retirement age. You'll have made four point eight million dollars,
• 1:42:12
  which is point zero zero one seven percent of the wealth that he has gained.
• 1:42:20
  I mean, I've always said he's intelligent to some degree. He does
• 1:42:26
  have a little bit of smarts. But he's off his rock. But it's
• 1:42:30
  not But it's not like he earned nothing. He got it all from his
• 1:42:36
  daddy, who was a racist, and then so it was inherited. It's
• 1:42:44
  all inherited, and he piggybacked off of other people's ideas. Tesla was not
• 1:42:47
  his idea, like none. His first thing was PayPal. He sold PayPal
• 1:42:54
  and made a ton of money, but that wasn't his idea either. So
• 1:42:58
  he has done nothing but destroy things. Like he is a horrible person.
• 1:43:05
  It's just horrible. So I'll leave it it. I'll leave it at that.
• 1:43:11
  You've seen. I mean, he's going to destroy Austin. He's going
• 1:43:15
  to destroy Austin, Texas. Yes, because he doesn't care. He has
• 1:43:19
  no he doesn't care. He cares about nobody. So it's just likes not
• 1:43:27
  right, right, So I just I have no love loss like because if
• 1:43:32
  you look if you look at and it was toxic to begin with, what
• 1:43:35
  it's terrible now. But if you look at Twitter, right, that is
• 1:43:39
  literally a perfect analogy for what he does and what he touches turns to shite.
• 1:43:45
  So and this brings us back to eating the rich, it sure does.
• 1:43:48
  I'm hungry, anybody else hungry? I mean I as a person who've
• 1:43:56
  owned a business, did you know very well? I do believe people should
• 1:44:00
  get paid a fair value for the hard work they do. But I can
• 1:44:06
  even tell you if my business would have been as successful as Tesla, I
• 1:44:14
  never as an owner, would have paid myself that kind of money. Ever,
• 1:44:20
  I would have raised my employees pay and then I would have said,
• 1:44:25
  Okay, this percentage goes back to make the company better. This amount goes
• 1:44:30
  to make our community better. And that's the problem I have with these people,
• 1:44:36
  even Zuckerberg. Yes, I know they give a lot of money away,
• 1:44:41
  but you still don't need to live in a twenty three million dollar freaking
• 1:44:45
  house. You can live in a five million dollar house. And that's the
• 1:44:51
  thing. I'll say this is the last right, and I'll say this as
• 1:44:56
  the last thing. The EEOC right, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, as
• 1:45:00
  of September twenty eighth of twenty twenty three, is suing Tesla for racial harassment
• 1:45:04
  and retaliation. Now, you could say this is the employees, but if
• 1:45:10
  it gets to this point that I'm about to say, it's obviously being ignored,
• 1:45:14
  even though it's being reported. Since at least twenty fifteen to the present,
• 1:45:16
  black employees at Tesla's Fremont, California manufacturing facilities just one of these facilities
• 1:45:21
  have routinely endured racial abuse, pervasive stereotyping, and hostility, as well as
• 1:45:27
  epithets such as variations of the N word monkey boy. Slurs were used casually
• 1:45:34
  and openly in high traffic areas and at worker hubs. Black employees regularly encountered
• 1:45:39
  graffiti, including variations of the N words, swastika's, threats, and nooses,
• 1:45:44
  on desks and other equipment, in bathroom stalls, within elevators, and
• 1:45:46
  even on new vehicles rolling off the production line. There's even been if and
• 1:45:50
  if I'm wrong, correct me, but I'm pretty sure there's even been a
• 1:45:55
  section of the factory that is designated for black people. He is not a
• 1:46:04
  good man, because I don't care what you say. He might be he
• 1:46:10
  might be separated from all of this stuff, he might not be over this.
• 1:46:14
  But a company rots from the top down, and those values are instilled
• 1:46:24
  from the top down. And if you are not willing to take it seriously,
• 1:46:29
  I'm not saying go sell your tesla like, that's not what I'm saying.
• 1:46:31
  What I'm saying is he deserves anything that's coming to him, and I
• 1:46:36
  wish it would, but it won't because just like Ted Kennedy, we've learned
• 1:46:41
  nothing at all. Yeah. Well, there is a lawsuit going on right
• 1:46:45
  now for SpaceX for he fire employees who said things against him. So now
• 1:46:53
  he's trying to sue the US Labor Board, but they're being investigated by the
• 1:46:59
  Civil Wars Board right now. So it's not I mean, it's all of
• 1:47:04
  his companies, which tells you it's him. He is the common denominator,
• 1:47:12
  right And I strongly suggest, I strongly suggest listening to one second. I
• 1:47:21
  will find it part one. So listen to the podcast if you haven't really
• 1:47:30
  ever listened to Behind the Bastards, it's a phenomenal podcast. They literally do
• 1:47:33
  deep downs on the bastards of history. There is there is an episode that
• 1:47:39
  was released. Is it really not gonna tell me when it was released?
• 1:47:44
  That sucks? Hold on, hold on, wait a second, Oh god,
• 1:47:51
  when was that? Jesus, I don't remember what it was. The
• 1:47:55
  if you look up Behind the Bastards and Elon Musk, you're gonna find it.
• 1:47:59
  But the first episode called Part one. I do not like you Elon
• 1:48:01
  Musk very much. It is so I urge you to listen to that series
• 1:48:08
  of Behind the Bastards on Elon Musk because Robert Evans does his research and he
• 1:48:15
  reports on what he finds. Then he does phenomenal research and he's funny too.
• 1:48:19
  So if you like the comedy but also historical in reality like that's,
• 1:48:25
  please listen to that just so you get a good feel for just how crappy
• 1:48:30
  he is. He's also screwed California with all of his like building stuff.
• 1:48:34
  He doesn't think rules apply to him at all, down to his apartment complexes
• 1:48:40
  and shit, oh, he is not paid back. So I live outside
• 1:48:45
  of Austin and Ale area called Bashdrop. He did not even get the correct
• 1:48:49
  permits for the roads for SpaceX and Boring, and he got all of this,
• 1:48:57
  you know, money embatements, all that crap, and he didn't follow
• 1:49:00
  the rules and he still hasn't paid the county. He still hasn't paid the
• 1:49:06
  county. And the reason why is because he knows he's got more money than
• 1:49:12
  the county does to fighting. Oh yeah, oh for sure, and he
• 1:49:16
  will hold that over their heads forever. The thought that you invite somebody in
• 1:49:20
  thinking they're going to create jobs and bring an economy is is not It's not
• 1:49:26
  viable with Elon Musket does. It's not worth it. We shall now reach
• 1:49:30
  him out of anywhere. Absolutely, he's trying to build a neighborhood to have
• 1:49:34
  his employees live there so that he can get past the laws about overtime in
• 1:49:42
  Texas because he mandates that you work fifty five or sixty hours a week,
• 1:49:47
  but he pays you for forty. And you can get around that if you
• 1:49:50
  provide them housing that is working camps is what that is. Well, and
• 1:49:59
  that's what his dad did, So it's not surprising. The apple does not
• 1:50:02
  far fall far from the tree made out of shit. So I mean,
• 1:50:08
  that's just it's where we're at. But then he's not running for president.
• 1:50:13
  Good thing, he's not running for president. Don't put that into could you
• 1:50:16
  imagine? Could you imagine the circus? Running for president's all about money,
• 1:50:24
  and he sure as hell has enough to saturate the entirety of media with Elon
• 1:50:28
  Musk faces. And I don't need to see giving time, give him time.
• 1:50:34
  He's still young. I'll put it this way. On for breue Crime,
• 1:50:40
  right, we have that side show that we do that we're soon calling
• 1:50:45
  the Brew Crime Report, which is our Brue crime news rather and we have
• 1:50:49
  an entire sound clip in section devoted to Elon Musk's stupidest shit news because he
• 1:50:58
  literally deserves it. He does. Yeah uh, and I feel bad for
• 1:51:03
  anybody who crosses his path. Oh yeah, oh yeah, Jan, It's
• 1:51:13
  totally totally free. You want true crime and wine time, breue Crime,
• 1:51:20
  and then active shooter. There you go, there's your three. It's all
• 1:51:24
  you'll ever need. That's all you'll ever need. There's some others that are
• 1:51:28
  good. There are some other ones that are great. And now totally off
• 1:51:33
  topic, I am trying to put together a Chase Lackey update just let you
• 1:51:41
  guys know we've had a lot going on. But I will have to say
• 1:51:46
  I now think I know a little bit about what law enforcement might feel when
• 1:51:50
  you have a lot of information and you just can't share it because you don't
• 1:51:58
  want those individuals to know that you have the information. Yeah, it's one
• 1:52:03
  of those. It's one of those don't talk about it, or yeah,
• 1:52:09
  it's one of those. I will just say a lot of good things are
• 1:52:15
  happening, and I've got some little excursions I will be going on soon that
• 1:52:25
  I will record and share them later when I can. I will say,
• 1:52:30
  we are making people nervous because we are getting some nasty comments and things coming
• 1:52:41
  in, so we're definitely on the right track. We're making people nervous.
• 1:52:45
  But I know a little bit about law enforcement feels because I want a tail
• 1:52:51
  and it's all in this little envelope, this folder, And I can't tell
• 1:52:59
  y'all when I won't say, I don't think we've talked about like who you
• 1:53:03
  met with and things like that, and I'm not going to talk about it.
• 1:53:05
  But when you met with this one person, you had a binder with
• 1:53:10
  how many pages? Again, we are now up to three binders that have
• 1:53:20
  that many pages. This is binder three. Terry don't play, Terry don't
• 1:53:29
  play, and I'm so glad. I'm so glad you're that person because I
• 1:53:35
  am not. But Terry is being safe law enforcement. Of course we know
• 1:53:43
  they're not doing crap, but that doesn't mean I don't have friends, males
• 1:53:48
  who are willing to go with me and be my sidekick as I go and
• 1:53:56
  knock on doors. O. Yes, I forget how many reams of paper
• 1:54:05
  were through, but this is the third binder. I have a full I'll
• 1:54:11
  take a picture, but we have a full evidence board. We have our
• 1:54:15
  own little I forget what the police call it. A war room. Chunkin
• 1:54:21
  knows you well, Oh girl, I'm strapped, and you know it's pink.
• 1:54:29
  Oh hell, yes it's well, my gun's not pink, but everything
• 1:54:32
  else is pink. The gun's black. But I'm excited and I will and
• 1:54:38
  JT knows how hard it is for me to not share, because it's a
• 1:54:45
  lot of good stuff. A lot of work has gone on, and we've
• 1:54:47
  had some great people who's jumped in and started helping us. I just want
• 1:54:53
  to carry, not the binder. So there amazon you get them in a
• 1:55:01
  pack of six. But I just thought it was time. I mean,
• 1:55:09
  there's a lot of good stuff, but it's hard to keep it in.
• 1:55:13
  One little thing I can share is I won't say the name of the show.
• 1:55:18
  That's a TV show that I reached out to JT don't tell either,
• 1:55:26
  and they put me in touch with a producer of theirs who has been very
• 1:55:35
  helpful and we've had some great conversations. So I can't say it. Number
• 1:55:42
  one because I can't say it, but also because I really don't remember already.
• 1:55:48
  I'm the best person to tell secrets to. I won't remember the next
• 1:55:53
  day. And if anybody wants to also, we have been sent messages to
• 1:56:01
  Dateline and to Missing in America asking them to cover chase this case. If
• 1:56:09
  anybody wants to go out to their site and submit also might help us as
• 1:56:15
  well. It's a five inch binder, and that's a real five inches,
• 1:56:26
  not a man's five inches. Thanks. I'm just gonna eat this microphone.
• 1:56:35
  I was in the pool, okay. So if if y'all are interested in
• 1:56:43
  joining us, Terry me and plenty of others in the chat, head over
• 1:56:47
  to the courtyard. I just dropped the discord link in the chat. We
• 1:56:54
  do a lot of cool stuff there. We're doing a lot of daily stuff
• 1:56:56
  now I'm streaming trials during the day and it's little really just trials and chat
• 1:57:00
  and it's so much fun because there's there's not very many of us, so
• 1:57:03
  we just we talk. It's great. And then on top of that,
• 1:57:09
  we we also do like Bob's Burgers in the morning to thanks Lama, and
• 1:57:14
  I mean, there's a lot of stuff that we do at night. Right
• 1:57:15
  before this show, they actually do Jeopardy and then they come to this show
• 1:57:20
  afterwards, so it's a lot of fun. They play the Jeopardy game and
• 1:57:24
  then they come here. So there's a lot of cool stuff that we're doing.
• 1:57:29
  But but yeah, so click on that link. Yes, what how
• 1:57:35
  do you find what am I missing? At the very no, I mean
• 1:57:43
  at the very top, there's there's something that says fifteen events and then you
• 1:57:46
  can just scroll down like here, I'll go through a couple. On Sunday
• 1:57:49
  at Sunday at moons, they're watching Lost. Every Sunday at twelve pm is
• 1:57:56
  Lost. Sunday February Sunday at eight is The Fall episodes three and four.
• 1:58:03
  Tuesday the thirteenth is The Princess and the Frog. Every Wednesday and Thursday at
• 1:58:10
  nine point thirty is coffee and cartoons with Bob's Burgers. We've got Jeopardy Game
• 1:58:15
  Night on Thursday, February twenty second at seven pm, and then every single
• 1:58:21
  episode that's coming up of True Crime and Wine Time has been scheduled as well,
• 1:58:27
  and so you will always get notifications of when those things start, and
• 1:58:30
  things are being added every day, so there's plenty of stuff to do.
• 1:58:34
  Definitely, definitely, definitely. I'm so glad I felt it, and I'm
• 1:58:40
  glad there's something going on during the Super Bowl. Does that mean we don't
• 1:58:44
  have to watch the super Bowl the super Bowl? Yeah, well, Swifty's
• 1:58:51
  going to be there. I'm watching it for Taylor. That's about it.
• 1:58:57
  So I'm not watching. I don't know what I'm I don't know if I'm
• 1:59:00
  watch it. No, thank you. I found it because I just now
• 1:59:09
  found out how to get Discord back on my phone. So oh yeah,
• 1:59:15
  that's right. Angie's right. Angie said, hold on, uh oh no,
• 1:59:19
  that's not it. Uh we do yeah, so Jeopardy, uh Murder
• 1:59:25
  Mystery party. So we did a murder mystery. I think Lama's doing another
• 1:59:28
  one soon, so that's gonna be fun. We get some folks on the
• 1:59:31
  server that that act, and then the rest of everybody tries to figure out
• 1:59:35
  who's you know, who done it. We also have games that we play
• 1:59:40
  Putt Putt, we play cards like who know. There's a lot of stuff
• 1:59:44
  that's happening there. It's I'm really excited about it. Yes, yes,
• 1:59:47
  what the Lincoln going to the chat shut the front door. Well, on
• 2:00:00
  Saturday night, we're having couples game night at our house and we're playing newlywed
• 2:00:09
  not so newlywed game. Oh that sounds fun. Let me know if that
• 2:00:16
  that worked. Did you guys get the link that way? It showed up
• 2:00:19
  this time? User error? Okay, I am the user, and I
• 2:00:25
  always error. That's my problem. I'm probably almost done with the sheep thrills.
• 2:00:30
  Did you drink all of that? Probably about seventy almost eighty percent.
• 2:00:40
  I feel fine, Glass, I feel fine. I've been drinking a lot
• 2:00:47
  more water. This is not a this is this is not a I wish
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  this was a sponsor. It's not a sponsor. But that that circle.
• 2:00:55
  Have you ever heard of that circle? So I went on their website and
• 2:01:00
  they had like a good deal, and so I bought. I got the
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  thing for free, and like all the flavors and stuff like literally like screw
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  into the drink and then you can just turn up the flavor, turn it
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  down. Circle C I R k U L very very good. I enjoy
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  it down pink paper with my pinker. I've been enjoying it for sure.
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  Oh me too. I'm playing it now too. It's a good game.
• 2:01:30
  We enjoy it. I play it on PS five. It's a lot of
• 2:01:34
  fun. Like game I play is pokemonco. Junker said, they sell the
• 2:01:43
  circle things at Walmart. Oh, but I like it because like you're not
• 2:01:50
  putting anything into the water. The water comes up and through and that's where
• 2:01:54
  the flavor comes through. So you can literally unscrew this and drink it and
• 2:01:56
  taste like water, and then you actually you can turn it up and down,
• 2:02:00
  so it's not just like you know you could. Yeah, so,
• 2:02:08
  oh you're about to have a Pokemon Goo friend. Yes, I do play
• 2:02:12
  Pokemon Go. Listen, you guys can chat in Discord. Head over to
• 2:02:17
  Discord and yell at Terry just say try. Yeah, I'm gonna go crawl
• 2:02:25
  into the warm bath and drink some Theora flu. Yes, I will put
• 2:02:31
  my Pokemon Go friend code on Discord woo, she's getting uh, she's getting
• 2:02:41
  risky. I used to have three Pokemon Go accounts. I've shut it down
• 2:02:45
  to one because it was taken up too much of my time that I don't
• 2:02:49
  have. That's insane. Oh man, well this was so fun. And
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  we're back in what two weeks? Yes, we're back in two weeks.
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  We are back in two weeks. It will be one second. The next
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  one we have is prison Escapes Behind Bars. Oh, the episode behind Bars
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  tales of prison escapes and crimes unveiled. And we're gonna talk about let's see
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  Toby Door, a prison breakout, co Lab and then the Texas Seven.
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  So get ready for that. That's gonna be fun, a lot of fun.
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  Well, I'll go first and then you close it out. Sounds good?
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  All right? Everybody, be kind to yourself, be kind to your
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  friends and family, don't let anybody doll your sparkle and shine on you crazy
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  diamonds, shine on Terry, stay safe, watch out for crime, and
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  always enjoy your wine time Until next time, sheep thrills, Bye bye,
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  guys. H