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#288 - MBNel · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Bootleg cap Podcast special guests in here representing Stockton. Man
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  Speaker 1: NBNL is in the building. So you sold you. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for pulling up buddy for sure. Yeah. How's everything
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  Speaker 1: in your world? Man? Good? Just been working, still focused? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you feel like you're always working, bro? Yeah, yeah, trying
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  Speaker 1: to get right. Do you feel like because I always
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  Speaker 1: say this, man, I feel like Stockton is like kind
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  Speaker 1: of like the hottest city in California in terms of
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  Speaker 1: the hip hop scene and what's going on. And I
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  Speaker 1: feel like it seems like like y'all finally kind of
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  Speaker 1: getting some credit now. Do you feel that way? Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for sure. There's definitely a lot of telling out there.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone just starting to get hips. It's been like that
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of years now. But yeah, it's dope
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  Speaker 1: to see for sure. Yeah, I feel like you're kind
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  Speaker 1: of when I think of Stockton, I think of you
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  Speaker 1: and I think a Haiti baby like in terms of
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  Speaker 1: like the last five years, Like you guys are kind
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  Speaker 1: of like the two main dudes. That's fair to say. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say. For sure. What is
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  Speaker 1: up playing? Look, I ain't trying to get into politics,
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  Speaker 1: but it feels like there's just a lot of drama
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  Speaker 1: in terms between the rappers out there, whether it's yourself
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  Speaker 1: and the other guys, and you know, it just seems
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  Speaker 1: like there's a lot of like not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people moving together out there. Yeah, definitely not. Is that
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  Speaker 1: like this all politics driven? Yeah, definitely is just a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of street shipping that that that you know, hinders
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  Speaker 1: music for sure. I feel like LA that kind of
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  Speaker 1: got in the way of l a kind of moving
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  Speaker 1: because you know, there was a moment when LA was
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  Speaker 1: kind of like cold, you know what I mean. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like because a lot of the up and coming
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  Speaker 1: artists out of LA that the politics, I guess, get
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  Speaker 1: in the way of the music. Now. Stocked In is
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  Speaker 1: a way different city. It's a very small place, so
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  Speaker 1: it's definitely not the same dynamic because I'm sure when
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  Speaker 1: shit happens it's stocked it it's it's very small. I've
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  Speaker 1: been there, you know, small together. Yeah, it's a lot different, right,
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  Speaker 1: But for you, like, do you think that there's any
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  Speaker 1: like progress in the right direct or is it still
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  Speaker 1: kind of like everyone's just kind of divided doing their
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  Speaker 1: own thing. I mean, as of right now, people like
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  Speaker 1: that ship though like like I feel that's what's driving
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  Speaker 1: in like people like seeing that that beef and ship
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  Speaker 1: and that drama and ship. Yeah, it's crazy because I
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  Speaker 1: kind of feel like Stockton's kind of like the West
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  Speaker 1: Coast like Jacksonville, kind of like Jacksonville's like rap scene
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  Speaker 1: is like kind of driven by like the fucking beef ship,
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  Speaker 1: and I feel the Stockton ship is kind of similar,
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  Speaker 1: like it's just so much beef, and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: it helps. It's not good for the human beings involved,
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  Speaker 1: not that it helps with It helps with the with
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  Speaker 1: the getting the streams up and numbers up, especially like
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  Speaker 1: YouTube and stuff. It's like a given and take though,
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  Speaker 1: because it's like if you lean into that ship, there's
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  Speaker 1: like real life ramifications. Yeah yeah, for sure, we gotta
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  Speaker 1: know what you signed up for. But yeah, that's that's
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  Speaker 1: that's what people like right now. Do you feel like
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  Speaker 1: you be leaning into that ship a little bit just
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  Speaker 1: to kind to help the music or I mean I've
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  Speaker 1: always been to type like whatever whatever be happening, I
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  Speaker 1: just leave it out the music because I treat it
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  Speaker 1: like two separate entities. You feel me like this is
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  Speaker 1: really my job for like like business. You feel me
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  Speaker 1: like I don't want to. It ain't it ain't. I
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  Speaker 1: just I try to just do you like, look at
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  Speaker 1: you professionally you feel me. Yeah. But and as far
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  Speaker 1: as that, I'm just fun all that shit. F Yeah
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  Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. I mean there's been a lot of
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  Speaker 1: guys losing their life out there too, man, Like you know,
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  Speaker 1: like the like the slow van dude obviously rest in peace.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a lot of a lot of dudes, is there.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I've heard a few people losing their
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  Speaker 1: life out there. They're like I just followed the Fizzler,
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  Speaker 1: bro theler just be keeping me in Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: For you, because you're kind of like one of the
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  Speaker 1: pioneers out there, I would say that you're probably in
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  Speaker 1: terms of like catalog and like you know, being able
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  Speaker 1: to tour and do certain ship, you're probably the most
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  Speaker 1: successful guy at a Stockton. Do you feel any pressure
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  Speaker 1: or any responsibility kind of being like the national face
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  Speaker 1: of a city like that? Uh? Yeah, A little bit
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  Speaker 1: better save time. It's just I really just be so
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  Speaker 1: like worried about myself. Like I don't really care what what, how,
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  Speaker 1: what people expect or you feel me think of me.
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  Speaker 1: It's just I'm just so focused and dialed in on
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  Speaker 1: on myself and try to like better myself. So whether
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  Speaker 1: people look at that like as a as a you know,
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  Speaker 1: a good representation, it's just it is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: You feel me naturally, When do you feel like you
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  Speaker 1: kind of like figured out how to like properly turn
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  Speaker 1: the rap shit into a business and like really monetize
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  Speaker 1: your fan base. Uh? I started I started looking at
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  Speaker 1: the analytics everything, like where where where certain fans of
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  Speaker 1: listening to music from? Uh, like top cities? Like what
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  Speaker 1: type of Like I'm really looking at what type of
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  Speaker 1: songs are streaming the most? You feel me like like
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  Speaker 1: certain raps song just do good on YouTube, but then
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  Speaker 1: like like a song as for the females like singing melodizing,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's doing. He'll get on like like Spotify or something.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm looking at it and it's like cities that
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  Speaker 1: I never expected. So like like where like right now
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  Speaker 1: on my Spotify list? Last time I looked at it,
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  Speaker 1: I think top five. I think it was like Melbourne, Australia, London.
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  Speaker 1: Uh there was like three out of country cities. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it'd be like it'd be like for songs like
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  Speaker 1: like the singing songs you feel me. That's so crazy
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  Speaker 1: to think, like Australia is really far crazy. So when
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  Speaker 1: you see some ship like that, or you're like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: maybe we should try to go do some shows out
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  Speaker 1: there or run some ads out there, try to you know,
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  Speaker 1: like like how do you take that information and like
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  Speaker 1: how do you apply it to like what you're doing. Uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we try to. We try to do like try to
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  Speaker 1: try to have ads reached towards towards that way. We
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  Speaker 1: we were actually speaking to somebody from out there, like
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  Speaker 1: a promoter, trying to get some shows together. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: that's on hold right now, trying to put that together,
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  Speaker 1: try to have a show in Canada. And then and
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  Speaker 1: they didn't even let me in, which was weird because
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  Speaker 1: they let me in in uh Toronto and Montreal. Is
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  Speaker 1: it because of your record? Yeah? But but they did
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  Speaker 1: me so greasy this time, like they looked up everything,
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  Speaker 1: like Dyven broke it even get in. They was bringing
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  Speaker 1: up stuff from like when he was fourteen. Really this
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  Speaker 1: is crazy? Was this Vancouver? Yeah? Vancouver? Damn? So like
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  Speaker 1: you how does it work? You get to the border,
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, we get over there, we go through the
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  Speaker 1: little Uh I forgot what it's called. Uh, what's it called?
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  Speaker 1: When you go we go to TJ customs. Customs. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so we were in customs. They see me whatever. I guess.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I kind of throw them off with the
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  Speaker 1: face tattoos and shit. They looked me up. I guess
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  Speaker 1: the seen I was a rapper. Then they look up
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  Speaker 1: everything else that's on the internet, the little indictment shit
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  Speaker 1: and just the ship that was on like blogs and
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  Speaker 1: all that shit. So all that pop up day on
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  Speaker 1: everything on my on my two suitcases. I got two
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  Speaker 1: bandana's on it, just to identify it, right, and you know, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying it. But but they happened
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  Speaker 1: to be blue. So they asked him, why why is
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  Speaker 1: it blue. I'm like, that's the that's the first thing
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  Speaker 1: I see and I just put it on there. But
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  Speaker 1: they have they bring me to like a little room
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  Speaker 1: in the back. They like, we gotta ask you a
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  Speaker 1: couple of questions. I'm like, all right, whatever, fuck it, bro.
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  Speaker 1: They have me in there for like eight hours, eight hours, bro,
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  Speaker 1: just ask like like down there interrogating me just to
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  Speaker 1: deny you, well, my whole my whole life, like asking
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  Speaker 1: me about my whole life, like everything, Like, go back
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  Speaker 1: to the waiting room. All right, there's a couple more
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  Speaker 1: questions we gotta ask. Go back in there. For like
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  Speaker 1: two hours, I go back to the waiting room. They
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  Speaker 1: had me doing that back and forth and then and
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  Speaker 1: then the day was coming to an end. There was
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  Speaker 1: nobody else coming in. There was like, uh, based on
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  Speaker 1: the information you gave us, we still got to do
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  Speaker 1: some more research, like more stuff come up. So I'm like, damn.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, uh, it might be a it might be
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  Speaker 1: a legal issue now because you're they're trying to say
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  Speaker 1: I was an active crip and you give me just
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  Speaker 1: a little shit like that. Now now it's a legal issue.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like a legal issue, like like what are
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  Speaker 1: you talking about? Instantly called I ictically called Matt, who's
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  Speaker 1: a lawyer, and yeah, the lawyer and my real lawyer,
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  Speaker 1: uh Mark, So I call them. They get in contact
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  Speaker 1: with them, trying to see what's up. Mark and Matt
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  Speaker 1: get ahold of the U the uh was it the
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  Speaker 1: embassy or something like that, trying to talk to them. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, you're gonna have to spend the night in
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  Speaker 1: uh in custody so we could do more homework on you.
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  Speaker 1: What the fuck? Yeah, to try to get into a country. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, fuck that, I gotta go. They're like,
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  Speaker 1: you can't leave. There's no there's unless you can find
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  Speaker 1: a flight. There's like, we'll give you an exception. If
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  Speaker 1: you can find a flight to the US right now,
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  Speaker 1: we'll let you leave. But they were like, there isn't
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  Speaker 1: any though, so you're gonna have to spend the night
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  Speaker 1: and it could possibly become a legal issue because you're organized.
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  Speaker 1: What they said, gang member that's coming into the country
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  Speaker 1: or something like that. So I'm looking, I'm like, give
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  Speaker 1: me five minutes, bro, I'll find a flight right now.
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  Speaker 1: So we're looking. I'm on the three way with man
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  Speaker 1: and the lawyer and we're just trying to find a
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  Speaker 1: flight to get U out of it. The first flight
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  Speaker 1: I seen it was in New York, So I just
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  Speaker 1: bought a ticket to New York got up out of there.
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  Speaker 1: What I was there for so long? Yeah, just to
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  Speaker 1: get it. So you were trying to drive, Like you
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  Speaker 1: drove to the border or did you fly there? We flew.
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  Speaker 1: So you fly into Vancouver to the airport and before
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  Speaker 1: they let you into the country, they pretty much hit
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  Speaker 1: you with the line of corners. Yeah. So when I
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  Speaker 1: first went to Toronto, the dude kind of gave me
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of issue. I got in contact with
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  Speaker 1: my lawyer, Cunner, But but the dude was cool. So
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  Speaker 1: what they were saying, they really depends on who's working
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  Speaker 1: at the time. But I guess Vancouver more strict because
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  Speaker 1: it's connected to California. You feel me, right, Damn, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So you just flew to New York. Yeah, I flew
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  Speaker 1: to New York, spent the night over there and at
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  Speaker 1: the flight pack, well, I was on a plane for
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  Speaker 1: like a whole day. I was like a terrible twenty
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  Speaker 1: four forty two hours terrible. Do you do you find that, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, some of your history, does it hinder the
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  Speaker 1: way people look at you? Sometimes? Are some of your
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  Speaker 1: opportunities ever outside of Canada? Yeah, I feel like it's sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me, uh yeah, I feel like it's sometimes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Like is it like because for you, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: you've been kind of like leveling up in terms of
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  Speaker 1: like I just noticed the way you move. You're moving
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  Speaker 1: a lot different. You're moving more like a businessman. Like
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  Speaker 1: it's gotta suck to kind of like you know, that
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  Speaker 1: stigma just follow you around. I'm like, bro, I'm like
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  Speaker 1: an artist who like I'm not some local rapper. Yeahs
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  Speaker 1: not some gang member who who sucks at rapping And
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  Speaker 1: I do this as a hobby, you know what I mean. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I actually had I had a couple of talks with
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  Speaker 1: a couple. I had a couple of sit downs with
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  Speaker 1: some labels, like a couple of years ago, probably like
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  Speaker 1: two years ago, and then they just they just look
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  Speaker 1: at like, I don't know how we suposed to market him.
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  Speaker 1: It's a Filipino dude who's a crip. Like, we don't
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  Speaker 1: know how this's gonna fit with anything rap like, So
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  Speaker 1: it's it's just all type of stuff. Yeah. You it's
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  Speaker 1: funny because you and uh uh, you know, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like there is kind of a I feel like hip
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  Speaker 1: hop doesn't know how to figure out the West Coast
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  Speaker 1: Asian gang member rap thing yet, even though you know,
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  Speaker 1: people have gotten plaques, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for sure you gotta go plack yet uh not yet.
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  Speaker 1: But I got one that's that's close to one of
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  Speaker 1: my older songs, Feelings which been going up it look
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  Speaker 1: crazy for some reason, just out of nowhere. Yeah, TikTok,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I don't even be
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  Speaker 1: on TikTok, so I don't know it's crazy because like
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  Speaker 1: you'll see a record like that's like three or four
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  Speaker 1: years old, like just ye blow up, blowing up out
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  Speaker 1: of nowhere, dude, it'd be like that's crazy even like
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  Speaker 1: stupid young ship. Like it was dope to see him
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  Speaker 1: get I mean get get U. I think Mando went
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  Speaker 1: gold or platinum. I think it was platinum them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you guys did a tape together. Yeah, we did too,
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  Speaker 1: yellow tape? Right, Yeah, did you guys do a yellow tape?
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  Speaker 1: Part two? And I just missed it probably Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you guys running back for the trio. Uh, we've been
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  Speaker 1: talking about it. Was that something you guys kind of
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  Speaker 1: related on just kind of being Asians and like I
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  Speaker 1: mean northern California, Southern California. Yeah, yeah, we just and uh,
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  Speaker 1: when he knows he knows folks are stuck it out,
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  Speaker 1: knew you feel me like and like some people from
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  Speaker 1: his hill is instucked in and I knew some people
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  Speaker 1: and he just kind of has to say the politics
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  Speaker 1: between Asians from the South and the North are not
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  Speaker 1: the same as like Mexicans, right or am I like
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  Speaker 1: as because it feels like the gang ship if you're
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  Speaker 1: if you're a Southern or Northerner and you're from like
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  Speaker 1: the Mexican ship, it feels like I super divided the
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  Speaker 1: way seem why, I think that's really only the North
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  Speaker 1: Asian sireos for real, right, But but on the Asian tip,
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  Speaker 1: it's not like that. It's not like that. It's really
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  Speaker 1: it's really like where you're from. Thro Yeah, shout out
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  Speaker 1: to the Filipinos are doing well right now? Man. You
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  Speaker 1: know Nico Blitz my producer, he's my producer. Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 1: like mister Filipino hip hop you know. Yeah? Yeah? Has
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  Speaker 1: he done a mix of your songs yet on his
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  Speaker 1: TikTok uh? You gotta press him for that. Maybe. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know TikTok so, I don't know. I think I'll
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  Speaker 1: see them one time. I'm not sure. Yeah, nah, he's
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel like, uh, Filipinos are coming up in
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: wrap right now, sweetiesh Filipino Pilo go Op dad yourself? Uh? Yeah,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: but like they make different music though, you know what
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, or that I feel like it's like I
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: come from a from a different cloth. Yeah, like yeah,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: different world. Yeah for real. Yeah, they're making like more
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: commercially palatable ship. You're making like gangster rap, you know
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do, that commercial ship. How's it
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: working on? Do you think your fans are like receptive
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: to that kind of ship? Uh? Some of them and
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: some of them not. But it's crazy because, like like
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I was said, I pay attention to analytics, so like
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: my my more uppity like mainstream cell of songs that
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: do really good on streaming and but then but then
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: it's it's fans that want the you know, the old
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: type of music. But you just gotta balance it because
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: you can't please everybody, you feel me and you can't
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: box yourself. You gotta want to grow. Yeah do you? Uh?
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I just saw Russ talked about how YouTube videos are
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: not music videos rather aren't as important as they once were. Uh,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: and you have a lot of videos. Your your YouTube
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: following is pretty big. Do you feel like you're getting
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: the same like ROI that you used to get when
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: you're dropping music video? Uh? Yeah, but but I'm just
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: starting to like pay attention to that the different streaming services,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: and it really is a different dynamic. Uh, different kind
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: of fans that that listen to different streaming stuff. So
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: like I've been noticing like on YouTube, they've been liking
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: more like the the more rapping rapping ship and the
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: streaming more more commercial stuff. Yeah yeah, because YouTube is free,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and the streaming stuff is
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: it's probably more like older young adults or teenagers or
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: something who who who could pay for this streaming services?
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: The monthlies and stuff like you know, uh, talk about
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the money boys, man, what's the what's what's the obviously
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: that your crew, what's the origins of of the money boys? Uh? Yeah,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: it's just fem me. We're just brothers. We all came
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: from the same area. Uh, grew up off a street
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: and that was that. We really just it's just it's
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: just collective, just bros. Yeah. Do you feel like is
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: that like, what is this a label? Is it just
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the crew? Uh? Label? I'm trying to make it a
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: label sign artists. Yeah. Do you feel like you you
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: could be a CEO? Man? That's that's That's what I'm
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: trying to try for sure. Man, who would you put
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: in like the top three or four artists? And Stockton
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: right now? Right now? Uh, i'd say to bros, I'm
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: fill supporting and bros so uh Joe, Maury Twye, Uh,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I got the homie be nice working. I'm just famous
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: supporting the bros. Shout out hate Baby just signed with Jeezy.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Shout out hate Baby though to doing the ship, he
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: just c Yeah another upcomings putty low. But yeah. You
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: know who's dope to is uh? Don Quez? Oh yeah,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: he's dope too. He could wrap his ass off. Oh
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: yeah for sure. Now I fuck with Don Kasz. He's Filipino. Yeah,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: y'all fuck with him heavy. Yeah. I just I just
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: mentioned I just mentioned the hommies feel I just mentioned
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the hommies, but but yeah, there's a lot of tailling
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: out there. Yo, as a Filipino, did you ever eat
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: what's this ship called with the baby egg embryo? It
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: starts with a bee. But look have you had that?
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I never ate this. You never tried it? Mm hmm,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: why not all? It's just not my thing that that
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: thing was crazy. It's like it's like a half born
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: like chicken, right, like an embryo. So my mom be
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: eating that, right, so your mom eats it? Yeah, you
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: never tried it. Never tried. I think I did actually
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: like the soup, the part, like the yolk part, yeah,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: like like, but you didn't take it. You didn't take
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: a bite of the chicken. I don't think. I don't know.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know. The people I know who eat it
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: don't eat the actual embryo. They just drink the soup.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Jesus, Yeah, that's the crazy. I love
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: beat On and everything. I love it. I love Filipino food.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: But that's the one thing I can ever try. It
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: looks crazy like I love loop Yeah, I mean I
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: love I love Filipino food. There's this place in Daily City.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: There's a casino, uh, and they have this Filipino diner
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: in there. Have you been to Daily City it's like
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, I've been. I've been a lot
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: of there's just like little there's a casino it's called
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: like the Lucky Something Casino and they got this Filipino
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: diner and that ship is fucking gas. But I can't
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: funk with the half born baby bird crazy. There's some
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: of them. Crack the egg open the biggest fuck. Have
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: you got to go developed? Have you been to the
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Philippines yet to like perform or like, you know, I've
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: been there when I was a kid, Like I think
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I was like like nine or something. I feel like
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you got to pull up a shoot a video over there, man,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I want to just don't bring any drugs for shuw
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: getting killed the president, don't play over, no coming back.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I just watched the Netflix documentary about the Filipino prisons
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: and their most crowded prisons in the world. It's terrible.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: It's just fools on top of each other. There's no
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: good smoking weed. Yeah, and that's for weed. It's wild.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. Man. Do you feel like because you relocated
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: out of Stockton, Right, Yeah, I got I got two spots.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I got one that's out out the way, I got
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a spot by the city. Do you feel like it's
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: kind of necessary for you to kind of make sure
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: to kind of I feel like I hate it when
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I see like to go back. Yeah, it's like, bro,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I just don't. I just don't. I don't know if
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: it's necessary because you kind of put yourself in in
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: harm's way for no reason, just to say like, yeah,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I'm good over here, you know what I mean. Oh yeah, definitely, definitely.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: That's why I hinder yourself to do something like you
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: can you can support from the distance. But but me,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: really it's just it's just it's just more to it family,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: and I'm trying to like, you know, uh looking and
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: opening some business and stuff out there. I actually invested
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: in with one of the homies on uh on the dispensary,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: oh stuck there, but uh, more detail on that later,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: but I went in on that, so we'll have a
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: dispensary open and stuck then. Uh, just some just some
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: stuff I'm trying to look into, like this restaurant, like
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: a family own restaurant, just just ship like that almost
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: like put the money back into the city. But they
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: don't mean you've got to be living there, you know
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you know the
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: biggest haters everybody got from where they're from. For sure,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: you got you just gotta maneuver, right, Yeah, Would you
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: ever I was gonna say, because you've obviously been successfully
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: independent for a very long time, would you ever have
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: like that? You know, if you had the opportunity to
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: sign a major deal, would you ever consider it? Uh? Yeah,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: definitely because at the end of the day, like if
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the bad if the bag is right and the terms right,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: like like why not you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: like I said, it depends on the terms though, if
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: it's like I will take everything that you currently own
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: type ship, or if it's just all strictly the new music,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: or like I said, it depends on terms. Got to
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: be right. Yeah, the terms got to be right. Bag
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: gotta be right. Terms got to be right all that. Yeah,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: because if you if you're smart, you just reinvest the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: money or just you ain't like, just don't blow it,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. For sure, but uh, when's
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the new album dropping? Uh? We don't have an exact
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: date yet, but we have I have an EP drop
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: in this month on the seventeenth. Uh, it's called Starting
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: in the South. That's just a lot sum hold over
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the fans. How many records? Six six records? Any features
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: with OTF Duty Love Okay? And then yeah, and then
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the album. I got some big features on there. I
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: ain't gonna say it. I can't say it right now
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: to be hot, but I got some big features on there.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: When you say big, what do you mean by big? Big?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Some big features? Not the average? Not not average? How
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: you link up with with with the OTF guys with
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Duty though, I just reached out. Did you like that?
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: That a future gotta pay for it? You guys just
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: kind of do the swapper reached It's crazy. I reached
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: out on uh Instagram and just went't about like that.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: He just sent it over. We just chopping it up
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: and then uh, he had left Empire of a label
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: he is with right now, but had left the Empire,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: so we had to get the lawyers involved and stuff
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: like that paperwork. It's a lot easier when everyone's on
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Empire and you just like, yeah, we're on the same ship. Bruh, Yeah, yeah,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Uh so the so the album album's got some big features,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: big features. What city are the big features from prob
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: like them self? Around that region? Memphis? Yeah, around now Regia.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I'm fishing right now, man, what do you want from me?
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: She gotta you got a song with? Uh? With Goorella coming.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just pulling names out of my mouse.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I want to song with She's hard, broh. She's like
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: one of the only female rappers that I could like
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: fucking listen to and not be like like like like, bro,
• 25:26
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• 25:29
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  Speaker 1: I'm not fucking listening to Sweetie. She's talking about fucking
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: dudes for Berkins, and shit, I can't relate to that. Ship. Yeah,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: well really ship. She kind of sounds like a dude,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: you know, so you can kind of like trick yourself
• 25:42
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• 25:45
  Speaker 1: she's a girl, you know, yeah, now she got Yeah.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Who's your like? Would you say your biggest influences are
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: just in general, man, when it comes to like rapping
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  Speaker 1: you see Little Wayne rolling loud? Uh? I just watched
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  Speaker 1: whole sundr atrocious. Man. What's your favorite Little Wayne album? Uh?
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Carter two, Card two or three? Yeah, Carter two is
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  Speaker 1: the right answer. But I also feel like, have you
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  Speaker 1: listened to the Carter two recently? Uh? No, not recently,
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  Speaker 1: be honest, I have to go bet. I actually feel
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  Speaker 1: like the Carter two did in age as well as
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  Speaker 1: we all think it did, because I listened to it
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  Speaker 1: recently and I was like, h h, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: this aged as well as I had hoped. I think,
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  Speaker 1: I think, I think Carter three aged way better. Carter
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  Speaker 1: four got beggers on there too, got some good singles.
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  Speaker 1: Not the greatest album though, Yeah, Carter five forgettable awesome, awesome,
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  Speaker 1: Carter fully crazy not being mixtape wheezy though. Oh yeah, sure,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, Nip Nip was that guy though. Man shout
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: out to Nip. You feel like you kind of take
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of the ship from like, because you know,
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• 30:30
  Speaker 1: own ship, Like you're opening restaurants, you're the dispensary plays.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Gotta be big for you, man, Yeah, yeah, for sure
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: to be able to like legally sell weed in your city. Yeah, Like,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just I'm just investor in it. But uh,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: that's great. It's gonna be big for sure, Is it pretty?
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Like is it a difficult business to get involved in? Uh?
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of paperwork behind it and
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of permits and a lot of gotta get
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: approved by the city and stuff like that. So you're
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  Speaker 1: canna help curate the bud that gets so like you
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: got to get your own strain in that motherfucker. Yeah,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: for surely, how do you not have a strain yet?
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know something I just never pursue. But everybody
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: telling me this every time, Bro, you will get it.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: There's so many weed companies that will give you a strain, bro.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Everybody keeps telling me that, especially up North. Bro. Yeah,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: just get a nice little royalty check every month. Yeah.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I just never. I just never was like really pressed
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: on it because I don't be smoking, so like I
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: just don't be thinking about that ship. Right. But but
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: now everybody be telling me that for shure, like I'll
• 31:33
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• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I smoked before. It was just what made you quit.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I just don't like how it makes me feel. You
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: think you're more focused when you're not high, Yeah for sure? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Have you I don't know, like I get I get
• 31:51
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• 31:55
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• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Shoes or how that go? Uh? I was I was
• 32:03
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• 32:05
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• 32:15
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• 32:20
  Speaker 1: visual part though? Was cool? That shit crazy? Yeah? For sure?
• 32:23
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• 32:25
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• 32:28
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• 32:31
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• 32:34
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• 32:37
  Speaker 1: what the fuck? But you but the rocks weren't like
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: they didn't like turn into like animals and like look
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: at you back or like, no, it was it was
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: doing something. It was like it was making shapes the
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: type of ship. Check you out, man, shrewming hard. Yes,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the shrooms are the new wave man, everyone. The shroom
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: truck is the what's it called the what's them called
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: shrime chocolates? They're gummies. I mean you're talking about that.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: There's like brain chocolate bars. Yeah, yeah, everybody be off.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I gotta give you some gummies. I got the shroom
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: gummies for you. Oh, real my own ship. Yeah, we're
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: about to put you on manh Yeah, which you'll be
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: taking like like two pieces or something. It depends on
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: what kind of day you're trying to have. It depends
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: on if you want to look at rocks for five
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: minutes or not, or if you want to like be productive.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: If you want to be productive, I do one or two.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: But if you want to, like, you know, get serious, Yeah,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I just eat the whole fucking bag, man. But you
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: gotta be out the way. Yeah, yeah, you gotta be
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: out the way. When is the album coming out? Obviously
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: the mixtape or the epiece coming in on the seventeenth, right, Yeah,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: So we're trying to trying to see if you get
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: it out by me or like no, like I said,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: no day, I'm not too sure, but it just as
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: soon as I can. I just want to keep pushing
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: music out. Who's been the one artist or a person
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: that you've been a fan of that like kind of
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: reached out to you or you realized what was like
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: following what you were doing that kind of caught you
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: off guard. Uh. I can't even think of the top
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: of my head because I because oh p and b
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Rock reached out one time. That's crazy on some random
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: man ship there. But yeah, he reached out, followed me
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: and the uh he was asking he asked He asked
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: me if I was signed? Are you trying to sign you? Yeah?
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I think that's what it was, because the conversation was
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: going back and forth, and when I told him I
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: was I was signed, he kind of he kind of
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: fell back. Ah, yeah, that's kind of. I mean I
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: feel like that happens a lot. It's like, well, ship,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: ain't I'm signed? But like, what's up? You feel like
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: with my ship, let's let's work? You know? Yeah? You
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: has that? Has any other artists trying to sign you? Uh? Not?
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Not that I could think of, to be honest. Yeah.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Oh uh Young did early early on? Who young? Super young?
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Oh stupid young early early on, like early in my career. Uh.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I told bro, I appreciate the opportunity. Bro. I was like,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I was in a mindset where I'm trying to build
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: your own ship. Yeah that's big man's What do you
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: think is the key to kind of stopping some of
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: this violence happening in Stockton? Or is it even possible?
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Not possible? Do you think it's possible? I don't think
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: so like like once once once's and it ain't no
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: turning back. Once lives is lost, you feel me, no
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: matter who you is or what the circumstances is like
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: once people, once lives is going. It's it's just the
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: cycle of NonStop lives being lost because you don't think
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: it takes somebody coming in and being like, hey, people
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: who have been lost on both sides. Even if that
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: does work, it's gonna be somebody on what side you
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: feel me to to fuck it up? Yeah, that's fair man.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: We'll listen, bro ep come in the seventeenth what's it
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: called again? It started in itself? Started in the South
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: album coming hopefully by May with big features. Big features.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Can't tell us who though, Give me some clues, man,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: and then if I can guess, just give me two clues.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: They could be the most generic clues ever. It's just
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: down South, all right, they need a second clue. Give
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: me a city. Don't just say down south. I'm just
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: between Atlanta and Memphis or probably I don't know. It's
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: a terrible clues giving me nothing. Well, look, I can't
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: wait to hear man. I appreciate you pulling up stream
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: this guy's whole catalog because he owns that ship. You
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Where can they buy the merch?
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Oh nbnail dot com, Marquee dot com, go buy some merch.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Tour soon you could be in the road doing any
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: show soon. I was on that tour when I when
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I did London and stuff like that, the Little World tour.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: But but it's it's kind of a whole because Canada ship,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Damn I had. I had three shows in uh Canada.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I had one in Toronto when Montreal and one to Vancouver.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Vancouver is supposed to kick it off, fucked up the bag,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: fucked customs and then shows sold out, damn near sold out.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Bro. Well look I appreciate you pulling up.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Go follow the homie. You already know mbnail uh and
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: uh man. Keep keep doing your thing, Bro, you've been
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: killing it. Appreciate watching it for a while. So there
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: it is. Appreciate you