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ITB: What's The Ceiling– And Floor – For The Eagles In 2026? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on, everybody? This
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: is Jeff Mosher and Adam Kaplan, and we are– the
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: countdown's on, man. We're just a few days away from Sunday.
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: That's going to be the week one season opener for
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: the Eagles against the Commanders, 425 game. Obviously, there's some
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: football tonight, Wednesday night, Super Bowl rematch between the Patriots
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: and Seahawks. And then Thursday night, that game I'm even
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: more excited for in Australia between the Rams and 49ers.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: So football is here. It's ready. So it's a good
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: time for us to do our season, some season predictions pod.
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: That's what we'll, we'll get to here based on some
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: outlooks provided by some sports books. And we'll get into
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: what they think. And Adam and I will go into
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: what we believe based on those numbers. Yeah.
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: I look forward to other than the fantasy tonight. It's
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: so hard to get it Wednesday. I just feel so irregular.
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: I can't, I really don't like Thursday.
• 1:07
  Speaker 3: I'm good with. Yeah.
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: The game in Australia, then the controversy of the Rams. Like,
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: the Rams are going to disrupt. Well, they want to
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: stay on their own schedule. Like, the Niners got there early.
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: The Rams are getting there, like, I don't know, 17 hours.
• 1:21
  Speaker 3: Whatever the hell it is. Whatever, how many hours before
• 1:22
  Speaker 3: the game. People are up in arms.
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: You're destroying the circadian rhythm, which I'm more than familiar with,
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  Speaker 2: with my sleep. But biorhythms, what they used to be
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  Speaker 2: called back.
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: In the day.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny how people are getting all worked up about it.
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  Speaker 3: And look, there's some day. I remember I was at
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  Speaker 3: an NFL owners meetings.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what year it is, 2013, 14 or 15.
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: Suddenly goes, someone in the league office told me over drinks,
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: absolutely positively. We're going to have a team overseas. I said,
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: while we're, while we're alive, he goes, Oh, it'll happen
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: in the next 20, 30 years. I'm like, but did
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: you realize the logistically how hard that is? He goes,
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: I get it, dude, but you have to understand the
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: way we think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. There's money to be made. That's how they think.
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: There's money to be made.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly right. No doubt. Yeah, that was the inference. But
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. The Eagles play the Jags, what, in
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: week five?
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  Speaker 2: In London. Tottenham or whatever the hell it's called.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. But that's the crazy thing because the NFL has
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: no problem just crapping on fans to please other fans, right?
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: Because this will be the second straight time that the
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: Eagles are playing a road game against the Jags in London.
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: which means Jacksonville area fans. And by the way, you
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: can be like, who cares? But there's a lot of
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: Philadelphians in Florida who probably, or even within driving distance,
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: they may live in the Tampa Bay area or even
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: down in Miami. There's a ton of Eagles fans in
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: Florida who would probably like to drive and see the
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: Eagles play the Jaguars. You won't get that chance again
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: because this game being in London.
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  Speaker 3: It's like when the Eagles game was what? Was it
• 2:58
  Speaker 3: in Brazil two years ago?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it kind of sucked because it's the Packers,
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: you know, a NFC rival. It was a great game,
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  Speaker 3: by the way. It was. Yeah, it's tough.
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  Speaker 2: Like, internationally, your team's going to be playing there at
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: some point. That's just the way it is.
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  Speaker 3: League rules. You have to play internationally at some point.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: But it's going to be a fun weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Eagles with a.
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: 4-25 game as we turn the page to this practice
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: schedule of Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday walkthrough Sunday game. So
• 3:29
  Speaker 2: they have, what, one, two, three, four, five 1 o'clock games.
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: That's it on the schedule. Of course, the January 10th
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: game at the Giants, the last game of the schedule.
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: It could be a 1 o'clock game. But we'll see
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: what gets flexed.
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  Speaker 3: We will see.
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: You'll appreciate this quick story. I was doing my 1
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: o'clock interview, as I do every week, on 97.5 The
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  Speaker 1: Fanatic with Sean Brace and Ray Dunn. Great guys, by
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  Speaker 1: the way. I really enjoy going on with them. And
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  Speaker 1: they asked me for a quick sort of– You know,
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: they gave me the line on the game, which at
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: the time they told me was five and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Eagles favorite by five and a half. And do I
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: think the Eagles are going to win? And I said, listen,
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: before I answer this question, I'm going to tell you
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  Speaker 1: two guys something that our Inside the Birds listeners know
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  Speaker 1: very well. Because I talk about it every year. I
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: was like, when the Eagles and the Commanders play, as
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: you've heard me say, It doesn't follow the script.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a normal game.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what the line is. I don't care
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  Speaker 1: who's hurt. I don't care who's healthy. It's not normal, right?
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  Speaker 1: So it's really easy to look and say the Commanders
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: are beat up and Nick Sirianni is what, 5-0? in
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  Speaker 1: season openers and be like, you know, Eagles by 20, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a cakewalk. At that point, I
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: wasn't even ready to make a prediction. I hadn't even
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: thought about it. But all that could enter my head, Adam,
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  Speaker 1: was that whenever these teams play, it's usually once a year,
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  Speaker 1: not both games, but you never know which one it is.
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  Speaker 1: Screwy stuff just happens when they play. It does.
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  Speaker 3: It does. Remember in 24 when the Eagles were on
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  Speaker 3: the win streak, Didn't Hurts get hurt in the first
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: quarter with a concussion?
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: Hurts got hurt. Pickett had to come in. That was
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  Speaker 1: a neck and neck game. And Daniels basically willed them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then they met in the NFC championship game and
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: you think it's going to be close. And then three
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: of the strangest turnovers you'll ever see, because none of
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: them were interceptions. I think they were all fumbles or
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: one was like, a dropped pass that became an interception,
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: but it's like the commanders just completely their, their, their
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  Speaker 1: coach just turned into a pumpkin that day. And then
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  Speaker 1: they just became very ordinary.
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  Speaker 3: Eagles boat raced them. They absolutely demolished them. They dominated
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  Speaker 3: in just about every way.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. But they've had some interesting games over the years.
• 5:41
  Speaker 3: There's no question about it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There's the one with the brawl. I remember with Jason
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: Peters and Chris Baker, there was a Monday night massacre.
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: There was, there's just so many, There.
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  Speaker 3: Was a body bag game, for those of you who
• 5:54
  Speaker 3: are old enough.
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, God, a long, long time ago.
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  Speaker 2: It was at that game in 91. But next time
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  Speaker 2: I see Brian Mitchell, I've got to ask him about that.
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got unbelievable stories.
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: So that's the game. For all you Survivor Pool folks
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: and bettors out there, that is the game that I
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: would never touch. I don't like division games anyway, for
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: those who like to bet. I mean, I don't bet,
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: but if I did, if it was something like I'm
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: in a pool or a weekly pick them. I just,
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: I hate division games because they're, they're weird. But that one,
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  Speaker 1: that one gets the weird of the year game award
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  Speaker 1: because you just never know what's going to happen when
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles and the commanders play.
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  Speaker 3: You agreed.
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  Speaker 2: It's, it's, uh, we didn't, maybe we'll do the division
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  Speaker 2: later this week, but this is, and I'm interested to
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  Speaker 2: see where you, and we have to, we at least
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: have to come out with our hard total wind total.
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  Speaker 2: I have mine and I have a wind range as well,
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  Speaker 2: but the over-under total is nine, like here it is
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  Speaker 2: nine and a half, the over, which is clearly where
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  Speaker 2: the money is, where people are going. they're betting the over,
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  Speaker 2: is minus 145, the under, plus 125. So, yeah, if
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  Speaker 2: you think they're nine wins or less, go for it.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to make money. For every 100 you bet,
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  Speaker 2: you get 125 back plus your $ 100. So you're making $ 125. Now,
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  Speaker 2: they don't do what I hate about these, though. All
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  Speaker 2: books do this, I think. They don't do hard even
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  Speaker 2: win total.
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  Speaker 3: It's by half.
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  Speaker 2: So they don't do 10 wins. They do 10 and
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  Speaker 2: a half. The over, now this is where it gets fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: The money is on the under.
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  Speaker 3: That's where everybody's going here. Mostly everybody.
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  Speaker 2: 10 and a half. So if you think it's going
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: to be 11 wins or over, you might as well
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  Speaker 2: take this one. Plus 115 and the under is minus 135.
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  Speaker 2: So the number is, the sweet spot is 10 wins.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you based on that. What would you
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  Speaker 1: put as the floor and the ceiling for the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: this year?
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  Speaker 2: I don't see any way there could be a team
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  Speaker 2: under 500 with this I know there's some questions on
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: defense in terms of Gronard's health. And Rick Wallen, can
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  Speaker 2: he be a quality starting corner?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that.
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  Speaker 2: But overall, they're going to be really good. The Texans
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  Speaker 2: are the best team in the National Football League on defense.
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  Speaker 2: They have no weakness.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. They're incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Burke, the former Eagles, he was a defensive coach
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  Speaker 2: under Schwartz. And D'Amico knows him. Obviously, that's why he
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: brought him in. They run the wide nine. Will Anderson's
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  Speaker 2: an absolute superstar. And obviously, Daniel Hunter's so good.
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  Speaker 1: Secondary, great.
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  Speaker 3: Safety group, good. Nickel, good. Linebackers, this Henry to O
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  Speaker 3: to O.
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: Good job. That was good. Nice job.
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  Speaker 2: Greg was shocked. Greg was shocked that he's been this good. Like,
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: it's just, they draft. Look, Nick Acera, Nick Acera, the GM.
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: I say it all the time. Great drafter, except for
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: offensive line.
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  Speaker 3: Oops, not good enough.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Bad lung, bad tonsil trade. I don't, I don't see it, but. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: the floor would be to me 9. Could they be 9-8?
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: If Hertz doesn't play well, if he doesn't get the scheme.
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  Speaker 2: If last year was not an aberration with the run game,
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  Speaker 2: that sequence on a decline, and the run game.
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  Speaker 3: Has got to be better.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, it was historically bad in the number of metrics,
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  Speaker 2: but let's just say it's better but bad.
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  Speaker 3: It might only be nine wins.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, let's say, okay. We know Smitty's
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  Speaker 3: going to be good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And we've said this a couple times recently, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to jinx it, but what if Goddard's out
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  Speaker 3: a while?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're right. Injuries could be an issue. And,
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: you know, Smitty, too. If he gets hurt, we talked
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: about what they have at wide receiver and their size
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  Speaker 1: issues there. Can you imagine? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Makai Lemon, we don't know about Makai Lemon
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: In terms of how good he can be, because he's
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: so far behind. And then Wicks is a full-time starter.
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  Speaker 1: This guy was a fourth.
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  Speaker 3: He's really a fourth.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: If you had A.J. Brown here, you'd like him to
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  Speaker 2: be your three, ideally. And if that is he, he
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: has a lot to prove. Now, he had a great
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: training camp, phenomenal, because he knows the scheme. He understands
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: the timing of it. He knows where to be. But
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  Speaker 2: now we're going to see how well he could really
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  Speaker 2: play when the lights go on, and now you've got
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  Speaker 2: to do it.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. What about the floor? I'm sorry, what about
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: the ceiling?
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  Speaker 3: Ceiling?
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  Speaker 1: Ceiling? I thought 12. I have a hard time thinking
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: it could be 13 or more. I think the division's
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: a little bit better. The NFC East will be a
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: little bit better. There'll be some surprises there.
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  Speaker 3: The Giants will be better.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, even Dallas could threaten to be 500,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, with their changes. And the commanders, we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: Could they be better than five wins last year? Yeah,
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: they could.
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  Speaker 3: They will, but let me ask you this. If Hertz
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: is really playing well within the scheme, getting the ball
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: out on time, consistently. Okay. It doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: He's not gonna do it every time, but what if he's,
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: we all watch it go well, he's really getting it. Honestly,
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  Speaker 2: that's the number one thing for me.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: If he's playing on time, I, again, I'm going to
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: use the Brock Purdy example. You don't have to have
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: a great arm or be very talented. I'm not, Hertz
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: is more talented, but you don't have to be a
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: great quarterback to be a good West coast quarterback. If
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: you play within the structure of timing, And he absolutely
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: destroyed the Eagles secondary. It was embarrassing what happened. Fangio,
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: I would think he couldn't sleep for 48 hours. I mean,
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: I would be so pissed off on him.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Brock sliced him up that day.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, and with backups.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: And he's done that. Yeah, and he's done that. Because, again,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: he plays within the system.
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  Speaker 3: Play within the system. Play within the timing.
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  Speaker 2: If he does it, because he's got the arm strength,
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  Speaker 2: the mental toughness, just got to do it, he's going
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: to make Wicks better.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Wicks will be better than he's supposed to be. Smitty,
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: you know, is good.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: Goddard fits the system very, very well. We'll get into
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: his props later. To me, actually, my upside is 13 wins.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: But it starts with Hertz.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Okay. What did I say? Mine was 12. No, I
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: think I said 12 or 13. Yeah, I can't. I'd
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: probably more put it at 12. But I suppose if
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: just everything came together, I could see.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: You winning 13.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: What's your hard number of win total? Let's go there.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: So you're asking me what I think the Eagles are
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: going to finish? Yep. If you put a gun to
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: my head, I would probably say, man, I've been caught
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: between 11 and 12 wins there. Don't lie. 11 and
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: 6 or 12 and 5.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: So the win range is 11 and 12, but give
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: me a hard number.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: All right, 11 and 6.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: What were they last year? Same as last year. That's
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: what they were last year. It's weird. 11 and 6.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Because the last four years have been 14-11, 14-11. So
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: that averages out to about 12.5. So I felt like
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: 12 felt good. So I probably should say 12-5, to
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: be honest. But then I thought about losing A.J. and
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: some of the newness. First-time play caller on offense. So
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I'd go 11-5.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, not having A.J. Brown, which we should have
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: mentioned before when we talked about Smith and Wicks. But
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: it's just you don't have anyone that tilts coverage like that.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: It's just... You just don't. You just don't.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: It's funny looking at the measurements. You know, I went
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: back to the combine and I asked some personnel people.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: AJ was only six foot one half inch at the
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: combine in 2019. I thought he was taller than that.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Six foot three quarters of an inch. He was only
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: six foot and a half. And Wicks was six foot
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: one three eighths of an inch. One team I spoke
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: to had him six foot one and five eighths.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Wicks is technically taller. Now understand because people on social
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: media don't understand English sometimes. Let me explain it to them.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: We're here to educate. Nothing is official that's on team websites.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: They round off. They do this on purpose. Education time.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: It's like college schools are way worse.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, God, yeah. They could have been 6'6 in college.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: They'll go sometimes three inches taller, especially with quarterbacks. It's
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: really embarrassing, but overall, not having Brown.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: to muscle catches, to do what he does across the middle.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: We just, a lot's going to be in wicks here, people.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Just be patient. We'll see what happens.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: So what was yours?
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go 12 and 5. My range is
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: 11 and 12. I do a range for every team
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: and a hard number. My hard number will be 12
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: and 5. I definitely like the over, 10 and a half.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: I do. And that's plus territory. That's plus 115.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. Good stuff. All right, now what about winning
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the division? The Eagles are a plus 122 to win
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: the NFC East with Dallas at plus 184 in second.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: So it almost seems like you can stand to make
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: some money if you take either because you're going to
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: make money if you're right. I love Dallas.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Well, no, to win a division, Dallas to win the
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: NFC East would be plus 184.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I don't like them to win it.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: I don't have them– I didn't check the odds. There
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: are odds for finishing second, third, or fourth.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: To pick an exact– no, just they're the second-shortest odds
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: at plus 184. I don't have Washington Giants in front
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: of me, so I didn't really care. We're not talking
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: about them here. But I like the Eagles to win it.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I'm going with them. I absolutely believe they're the best team.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Based on Sirianni's history– Hurts, I mean, people could criticize.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: We've had our criticisms. We've had our compliments. But the
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: guy shows up and he wins. I mean, I understand
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: he's not playing 1-11.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I get that.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: It's more than that. But Sirianni, for the haters out there,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: a lot of haters. There's still a lot of people
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: who do not like Sirianni. They can't stand him.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: They just don't like him. But the guy wins. Five
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: for five. Five for five.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: You know how hard that is?
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very, very, especially in Philadelphia, which, you know, the
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: haters are going to say, oh, it's Howie because he
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: gives him a great roster.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: So basically what you're telling me is Nick doesn't coach
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: the team. There's a ghost.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: That that.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Look for anything they can that people hate him. Yeah.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I've criticized Sirianni ad nauseam when I think he's way off.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Sure, he's criticizable.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: He did a bad job on 23. He did not
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: do a good job last year.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: You mentioned the issue last year with not having a
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: senior assistant was a major mistake. He still doesn't have one,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: by the way. That's not what you're– Gerard Johnson is.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: It's not even close to what he is.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, no. No.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: So it's not smart, but we'll see.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: But the guy wins, and you've got the– I don't
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: even think it's arguable anymore. We went from absolutely crushing
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Howie in 2020 to just over time pointing out what
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: looks good, this looks good, let's see what happens. He's
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: the best GM in football.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: He just is.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: It's hard.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: John Schneider's right up there. Les Snead's right up there.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: You want to argue, go ahead.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say you can put them
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: all in a blender.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're all there.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: They each have different strengths, I would say.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But, I mean, no one more aggressive than Howie.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Les Snead is 1A. Howie's 1.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Or you can vice versa because Les all of a
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: sudden has been just a real broke gambler.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: But the guy wins. But it's hard to imagine they
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: would not be in the playoffs. Moving on here, it's
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: hard to imagine they wouldn't be in the playoffs.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, I agree. But if the Eagles don't win the division,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you and I both think the Eagles are going to
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: win the division. All right, I'm going to pick them
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: to win the division. even though it's dangerous because nobody's
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: repeated in 20 years. And then the Eagles went and
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: did that. They broke that streak. So it's like, are
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: they going to now be the first team plus 20
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: to do three in a row? That's scary, right? But,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're the most talented team and
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: best equipped. But if it wasn't the Eagles, who would
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: it be? Is it Dallas clearly to you, or.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Do you think– Honestly– I think it would be Dallas.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: It is because they are the healthiest of the– Their
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: star guard just had thumb surgery, but they're still overall
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: pretty healthy, and they've improved the roster. And Christian Parker's
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: going to be an upgrade with his Fangio system he's
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: going to run.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: They get Quinton Williams for a full offseason, same with
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Rashawn Gary. Issues at linebacker still. They upgraded Nickel with
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Caleb Downs. They've added Kobe Durant. Jalen Thompson's good safety.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: They've upgraded.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: They have.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: But you're not having Smith. the, the, the guard is,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: is a problem, man.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Right. Don't get as your rock who, you know, the
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: South Jersey kid, I know he had, he'll, he'll come back.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: And by the end of the season, he could have
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a pretty big impact. Yeah. Losing the left guard hurts
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: for a little bit about a month.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: And we'll see if Guyton can, can do it to me.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Like if the ball bounces their way, they stay generally
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: healthy and they adapt well on defense to Christian Parker.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Cause the names you mentioned are pretty good players. Now
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: this is all having to come together and fit the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: new names. Jalen Thompson, obviously Quinton Williams. We'll see if
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: they can get something out of Siobhan Revell, the corner
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: that they drafted in the third round, who's supposed to
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: have first, second-round talent. We'll see. If it comes together
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: and they have one of those seasons, I can see
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: them contending. The Eagles won the division by, what, four
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: games last year? That's an impossible ask to do it
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: that big of a margin again.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Dallas had a losing record at 7-9-1 with that. All
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: their offensive firepower.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: It's embarrassing.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Their defense was not competitive for most of the season.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: It was an embarrassment.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: It's been an embarrassment for years. But if we can't
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: beat them, join them. Bring in Christian Parker.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: The guys have to learn how to run the scheme.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: They've got to learn.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: But it's amazing. The real Fangio comes in after Jonathan Gannon,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: and the real Fangio gets him to the Super Bowl
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: his first year.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Funny how they do that.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Crazy. Crazy. So let's run now to the last thing
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: on the Eagles, the winning the Superbowl, because I find
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: that I'm sort of fascinated by the, the how, where
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: everybody's all over the map. I just checked out some preseason,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: like power rankings and where the Eagles were. And one
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: team ESPN had them fifth, fifth best team. I think
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: it was ringer had them eighth and Adam, I swear
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: to God, I've never seen this before. Somebody had them
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: 17th in the power rankings. And it was not like a,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Some site you never heard of. It was like, I
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: think it was Yahoo. Yeah, Yahoo Sports did their power
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: rankings and the Eagles were 17th. I don't think there
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: was a time. I've been on this beat since 05.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: It's a long time, right? I don't think I can
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: ever remember the Eagles not being a top 10 or 15.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Did they give the reason? I'm curious what their reason was.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't read their whole write-up on why. I can
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: probably find it. Uh, but just, I, I, I almost
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: fell off my chair.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Like if you, if you want to have them at like,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: if you're doing ranking one to 32 for the first week,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: if you want to have them at like 12, I
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: got no problem with it. I could certainly, you can
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: argue because we don't know if this offensive line in
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: terms of run blocking, pass blocking, they're really good last season.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Tape was really good. Run blocking, they were atrocious. They
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: may never be the same physically. We don't know that.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: They look good in training camp, but that doesn't matter
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: They've got to do it when they're going up against
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: an opponent. Yeah, I'm looking at it now.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: They didn't say anything other than their write-up was not projection-wise.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: It's just stating a fact. It says we know A.J.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Brown is gone. What will a new look Jalen Hurts-led offense,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: one that's been largely under wraps this summer, look like
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: is one of the league's more compelling games? Mysteries entering
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the season. Okay, yeah, fine. If you want to knock
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: them a few, that's fine. But they have Rams, Seahawks, Broncos,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: top three, Bills. They have the Bears fifth, which is shocking.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: The Bengals eighth, Cowboys ninth, Lions 11th, Chiefs 13th, Chargers 15th,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Packers 16th. Just crazy.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Folks, I would implore you to look at the Chiefs
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: roster and tell me how their playoff team.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be tough, man, especially in that division.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: You can sell me on spags in that defense with
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Matsua Delaney and some of the other guys that they
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: brought in being good, but that offense has not been
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: good for a couple of years now.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: It's been in its steady regression. Mahomes missing.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: He's going to be ready, but he missed a significant
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: time to a major knee injury. The receiver, of course, underwhelming.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: They've got offensive line problems heading into week one. there's
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: not a lot of talent on this team anymore.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: What they are, what they are clearly is they're a
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: national team that the books overrate. How the hell could
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: they be at some books that favorite to win the
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: end of the ABC West?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: It's embarrassing.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: That, that is shocking to me. So that brings us back.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know that that's shocking to me. And then
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: looking at the Superbowl odds for the Eagles winning, being
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: the same as the chargers.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: 1700. I, it's just strange to me. You know, I mean, I, I, I,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: we did our top 10 teams. I had the Eagles
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: in the top 10. Um, you did too, to, to
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: put them on the same level as the chargers when
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: the chargers are an upcoming team. And sure. Like they've
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: got Michael Daniel. I get the optimism, but what have
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: they proven? You know, what have they done to, to
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: earn that they are on the same level as the Eagles. That,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: that to me is a little surprising. That shows me
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that people are not really that people, the people in
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: charge of making these things, what do you want to
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: call figures or whatever that, They're really in the dark,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: or at least very, as that write-up said, mysterious about
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: this new offensive concept and how it's going to work.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Well, we've known all along what it's going to look
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: like because we talked about it in February. It's a
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: West Coast system. It's timing-based. But the issue we don't know,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: we just don't know how it's going to look. That's
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: the real mystery.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: We know what it should look like, but until you
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: get there, And until, because what happens is if Hertz
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: is not playing on time, we don't know what it's
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: going to look like. If he's playing on time, we
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: know exactly what it's going to look like for the
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: most part. And look, there are always surprises, but, you know,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I know people are big on the Barkley reception total
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: That's so hard to figure.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Out, man.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: It's so hard, you know?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. So, yeah, plus 1,700 to win
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I suppose if you are of the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: belief that the Eagles are as strong as they've ever been.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: And this offense will take, that's, there's some money to
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: be won there. They can win the Superbowl.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I don't have a Miss Superbowl team. I just don't
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: see it.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I haven't figured that out in my head yet.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: We're going to have our, we do this every year
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: on our, on our website. We will have our predictions
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: for winning divisions and things like that. But yeah, I
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: haven't reconciled in my head Superbowl yet. I'll get there.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: You know, obviously the Rams are everybody's favorite. I don't know.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Am I being contrarian if I don't think the Rams
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: are in the Super Bowl? I have to, like, check
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: myself on that because they clearly have the best assembly
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: of talent in the NFL. It doesn't always mean you're
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: It doesn't.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Having these so-called super teams doesn't always work. Ask the
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: New Jersey Nets that in NBA when they try to–
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: they masked, like, every– superstar they can get in the
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: middle of their career didn't work.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: It was a total disaster.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Sometimes super teams work with Miami, but it doesn't always work.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Now, how could the Eagles be a Super Bowl team?
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Everything we just mentioned earlier, it all looks great. And Mannion,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: of course, we didn't mention him as a first-time play caller.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Who the hell knows how he's going.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: To handle the pressure?
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Agreed. Let's get into some individual players, Adam. An expectation
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: of season for Jalen Hurts from a passing yard standpoint,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: because he's, if you look at his career, right, he's
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: just all over the map. I mean, earlier on that
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: 2022 year, they go to the Super Bowl. He's got 3,700 yards. 2023,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: they have this infamous implosion, but they weren't good on defense.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: So they had to throw the ball out. He had 3,858 yards.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, 3,858 yards. And then they go back to
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: this football, win it. And he has this fewest passing
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: yards of his career with 2903. And then last year
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: at 3224. I mean, this guy, it's kind of hard.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's all over the place. Yeah, I don't.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: This is what I'm going to pass on at 3249.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: The over and the under is minus 110. 3249.5, that is.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: So he's got to get 3250 or more for it
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: to go over. Without A.J.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Brown.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: You know, it's one thing if we.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: If we could do this after four weeks, I would
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: tell you, although it may, it probably won't look good
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: early on.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Cause usually defense are ahead of the offenses, national football
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: league every year this time. But yeah, I don't, this
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: is a pass for me. I wouldn't, I don't like it.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I would just say this, if the number is
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: 32 50, okay. Um, to get around number last year,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: he passed for 32 24. So can Jalen hurts with
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: this new offense pass for 25 more yards, uh, I
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: think he could. And then he may have to play
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: in the season finale. Who knows? Usually they don't play
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: 17 because the last game wasn't that much. This year,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: maybe it is. So I would think over the 32-50.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: If I had to take one, yes.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: But again, no A.J. Brown. I'm going to give you
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: another one. What if the running game is phenomenal? Absolutely phenomenal. Right.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: If not, too bad.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: They don't want to be a passing team anyway. They're
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: looking for balance, and it starts with Barkley. It will
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: never change as long as Barkley's here. It's starting with Barkley.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Of course. Absolutely.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: They're not going to become a passing team. It doesn't
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: mean they can't hit explosives. That's what they're looking for.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: But it's a tough deal, man.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. To get to 32-50, you've got to average about
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: 191 passing yards per game. Last year, he was at 201.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: And even in 2024, when he only threw for 2,900 yards,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: it was still– 193.5 per game because he started 15
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: games that year, not 17. So there's never been a
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: season where he averaged 191 or fewer yards. So that's
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: why I think he can, I would definitely take the
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: over on the third.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: But he hasn't played without.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I know, I know that is the big, that is
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the big, but if, so I can listen, I'm not
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: saying I'd, I'd be a winner. I'm just saying if
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I'm just going, you're right, you're right. You have to
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: factor in the AJ Brown part of that. same thing
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: with passing touchdowns around 23. Like he's had 22. He's
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: at 23. He's at 25 last year. And he's also
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: had 18 in their most successful year. And again, no
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: AJ Brown. That that's a number. That's just, it's sort
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: of scary because he's all over the place.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I pass on this one on that one. In fact,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I like the under in that one. If it's 22
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: and a half, I like the Barkley Russian prop. I
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: love the over of 10 99.5. So 1100 or more
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: and you win. There's no way in hell if he
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: plays 15 games, this line is going to be better.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: It's not going to be 24.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Obviously, it would be basically impossible. It's an NFL record.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: But I'm seeing 1,400 or 1,500 yards. I just believe
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: it was 90%, 80% their offensive line, 20%.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Barkley because he had to change his style. It just
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: didn't work.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Now they're changing. We talked about the outside zone versus
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: what they were running before. Way more outside zone than
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: inside zone now. It looked good. Well, Shipley looked good.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: I love that over. 1,100 yards or more. I love it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I love it. I agree. I mean, that was a
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: struggle bus for him last year, and he still hit
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: right around that mark. And I would say the same
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: for Devontae Smith. If you gave me 1,100 yards or
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: fewer for an over-under on Devontae Smith, I will jump
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: at the over a lot. I mean, I think he's
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: going to have 1,100 in his sleep this year, Adam.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's 1099.5, the over and the unders. The over
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: and the unders, I believe it's actually minus 110. I'll
• 34:01
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• 34:02
  Speaker 3: But I love the over. I really do. Yeah, agree.
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  Speaker 1: and up. Now Wix, we talked about that. That's a
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: tough one. Uh, Can he make it more than 600
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: yards this year? You almost say the Eagles need it
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: if they're really going to be a Super Bowl team.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: They need that number two wide receiver to replace what
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: they're going to lose from– help replace, I should say,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: what they'll lose from A.J. Brown. Makai Lemon, I think
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: he'll probably take a few weeks to get into the
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: swing of things. But Wicks at 600 yards, boy, that's
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: a scary one.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: A pass. That's a hard pass. 599.5 is the total.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Over in the under is minus 110. That's a hard pass.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: It's so hard to.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: We know the pass entry is going to be Smitty,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: it's going to be Goddard, and then it's going to
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: be Wicks. If by midseason, you hope that it's Smitty, Goddard,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: then Lemon.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: You hope. For the future, it better be Smitty than Lemon.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Listen, I would even say if by November, if it became...
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: smitty lemon goddard the eagles are in pretty good hands
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: because yeah they love that yeah that's what they would
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: love yeah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's all about trust he's he's got to get
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: there we know he had really good hands in college
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: that's not the issue here the issue is getting where
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: it being where he's supposed to be within the route
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: on time this is new to him he's a rookie
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: missed a ton of time was available for less practice
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: than he was available for it's a problem but.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: You got to give it time absolutely All right, what
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: else stands?
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Any other season projection type of yard stats?
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: This is a good one for Goddard. Yeah, let's do
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Goddard quickly here. Goddard over under minus.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: 110, 574.5. That's it. I like the over.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I like the over. I don't know how I feel
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: about that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Because of his injury history?
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Age, injury history, the difference in the offense. What did
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: he have last year?
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: A hit? Who's going to get the ball? Think about it.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I know. I know.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Someone else has got to catch the football.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: It's just a little high because last year was 591.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: The year before that was 496, but that was 10 games.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: So that would have been a huge year. God, he
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: was on pace for an enormous year in 2024, but
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: he missed all those games. He went on IR once
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and then wound up missing, I think, four games again,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: but didn't go on IR or else he would have
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: had a monster season.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I guess 570 is not so bad. Yeah, yeah. I
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: just don't know, Adam, man. You know when players get
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: a little older, sometimes they just hit a cliff and
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: they're just not the same guy. And I do think
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: one year it's going to be like, all of a sudden, God,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: it's not going to be that guy because he's taken
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: such a punishment. He's not an avoid hits kind of player.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: But I guess to your point on– Who else is
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: going to get targets? Yeah, it would make sense.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: You look at the missing target numbers with Brown gone
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: in terms of dispersion of the football. I know they're
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: running a different scheme, but when you throw the ball,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: who's it going to?
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Smitty's one.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Who else really commands the football? Lemon doesn't yet because
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: he's new.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Wicks has got to prove himself. Jalen and Dallas have
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: a really good relationship in terms of chemistry. I like
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: the over there. Oh, okay, now this is interesting. He
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: shocked the world with 11 touchdowns last season. That's not
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: going to happen. So basically he's going to, so somehow
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: he's going to regress to four and a half.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Over where the money is. Everyone's on it. It's minus
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: one 30. The under plus one Oh five. How can
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: he not get five or more?
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Ah, that would, yes, you're right. And that is an
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: area where I'd say I would love the over on
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: four and a half touchdowns.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Here's mine. And I like
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: the over. Now, so does everybody else here.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hunt, the sack total, 6.25.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: There's no such thing as a quarter of a sack.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: It's a half or full.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Why would they even do that? Oh, because they're right.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: You can get a half.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: They want it over six. They don't want it on
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: a hard number.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: The over is minus 145. I like the over. The
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: under is minus 115. He's a full-time starter now.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Now, whatever that means, is it 70% playtime 90? We
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: don't know that.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: But he is everyone's breakout player, I would think.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: I love the over. Seven or more. Six and a
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: half or more.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: That's it. Six and a half or more. it's a
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: hard that's a hard not to say no to I
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: mean anything can happen he's still a young player that's
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: hard to say no to based on the kind of
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: year that he had last year and we know he's
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: we know Vic basically said it he said listen you
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: guys keep asking me am I surprised by this am
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I surprised by that and I'm not he's just he's
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: that good That's what he's been basically saying. So, yeah,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: that feels like a really strong opportunity for him.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: And by the way, contract drive. The Eagles don't wait.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: They could extend after the season.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, just telling you.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if he gets in that eight to nine sack
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: territory or more, it's going to be a no doubt
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: about extension for him next offseason. All right. That's good stuff.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I like going through the stats. I like trying to
• 40:14
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• 40:17
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• 40:21
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• 40:25
  Speaker 1: like MVP, comeback player of the year, coach of the year,
• 40:27
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• 40:30
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