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Synchronicity - Police · Barber Cuts: Beats and Bars

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Hey everybody, Todd here. Just a quick note before we get
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going. This is another collaboration
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with our friends over at Assorted Crackers.
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Also, stick around after the podcast where Riley and I will
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come back in and let you know what our next album is to go
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listen to. Happy Listening.
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Hello and welcome to Assorted Crackers.
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I am Eric and I'm here with Lee and Wilson.
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And Todd and we are going to do a well, I was going to let you
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come in, but you know, hey, that's all right.
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We can just go on. So this is a episode of Barber
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Cuts and Riley is here, as you heard.
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And I guess this is a deluxe edition.
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We are doing a mash up of assorted crackers, Barber cuts.
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I think if you follow sort of crackers, we've talked about
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these guys on previous episodes, a great local podcast that we
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love to listen to. And their their focus is on
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really shared album reviews, kind of cross generational album
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reviews. And they've inspired us in the
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past to talk about music and we thought it'd be great to get
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together and just again, do a bit of a mash up.
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We're looking forward to this. Yeah, and so this album is is
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compliments of the crackers. And so we are 1983, so my
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favorite year. Not really, but we are talking
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about the police and Sync, so we'll get started.
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So least favorites. Riley is picking around her
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phone, so I'll I'll get started then since she's trying to find
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her notes here. My least favorite is going to be
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just like the crowd. It's going to be mother.
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It's got. No, no, no, no, no.
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No. No, that song is terrible.
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The most disruptive song on the album.
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It was disturbing to think that every time the phone rings, it's
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your mother. OK, wait a minute.
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Riley got a different point of view.
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But yes, talk, talk about your. I guess the point is, Todd, you
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pick your least favorite and what you didn't like.
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We picked our least and you know, Yeah, you know, and my
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notes were it's not a Sting song, so maybe that's an Andy
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Summer that. So Andy Summer's right.
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Here we go. So.
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He's got mom issues, yeah. Boy does why?
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Why is and not saying that mother is your favorite but.
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Yeah, clearly you have a different point.
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Of view, it's not your least favorite.
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So why? Why are all of us wrong?
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Well, I mean, so I'm not going to argue that it wasn't
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disruptive within the album. It does not fit within the album
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and so I'll take that, but I really enjoyed it.
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Like if you could separate it from the album, obviously it's a
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good song. It sounds like 9 Inch Nails a
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little bit like it's more that vibe it has like the kind of
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nonsense lyrics that like reminds me of Sliver from
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Nirvana where he's like Grandma Take Me Home.
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Like that's a weird like song lyrics.
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I think it could have been on Pink Floyd the wall.
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I was thinking, I was actually thinking talking heads, but
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yeah. Pink Floyd, yeah.
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Like it's, it's a good, it's a good song.
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To me. It's just not a good police song
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because it's so different. I love my mom.
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But that not about. That I mean, you know.
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If you love me, you wouldn't release a song like that.
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I mean, I don't. Yeah.
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I don't think you. I don't think you and you, you
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don't want to do that to your wife.
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No, it was. It was meant to be.
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Because, I mean, she usually doesn't want to be called her
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mother. Yeah, I know.
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Yeah, I say that as a final. It was very strange.
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It was very strange. And, and especially as you're
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going through the album and like, whoa, what, what happened
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here? Like you hit a wall or
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something. It's.
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Like it was again, I use the word disruptive, but he's like
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exactly like exactly that. One of the things I love about
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the album overall is it the flow.
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It really, it was thoughtful, like first to last and and then
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this thing. So again, that I that was
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obviously Todd, I'm right there with you.
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And I know that's the popular choice when you read criticism,
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but obviously Riley, you've got a different perspective on what
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the worst song is. So what was your least favorite?
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Oh, that, that's where it was hard.
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Like that's, that's the hard part about this whole thing
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sometimes is mother was probably the most disruptive and didn't
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fit, but I really liked it. And so saying another song feels
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wrong. But I I wasn't a huge fan of Tea
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in the Sahara. OK it.
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Is. Yeah, thanks.
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Thanks for referring me. No, it's just it was one, it
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kind of hit the opposite of mother, where mother is like
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very in your face and you're like, I don't want to listen to
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this T and the star. I kind of just kind of fade into
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the background. For me, it wasn't as noticeable
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as some of their other songs. I mean, you have it's hard to
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when you have songs like, you know, every breath you take and
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all these synchronicity, like all this stuff, it's hard to
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make another song that will stand out.
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But that one just kind of got lost in the crowd for me, and so
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became a least favorite from that.
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Yeah, I agree. As as that one was another one
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that from some of our other albums that we would call that a
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snooze fest in the Barber household.
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Be careful not to fall. It was definitely a snooze fest,
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but it but it wasn't disturbing. In fact, it was peaceful.
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But most songs on this album are disturbing if you really look at
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Yeah. Or hear they just wait so.
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Like I mean that can't be the argument.
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Well, but I mean. No, I think, I think Lee saying
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it, it wasn't the story. It was just kind of a nice,
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peaceful it. Was.
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It was. A warm.
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Bastard no. No, right, it was a warm.
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I mean the story. The story itself is based off
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like an African legend of someone waiting too long and
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falling behind. Like it's a sad like idea or
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concept. All of these songs are super
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deep. Yeah.
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For sure, and let's talk about that on this album because, and
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you've got to remember in 1983, at its time when this came in
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and all confide, I pushed for this one because this was the
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very first live concert I went to was police secretary.
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So I was a little bit you suggested I jumped right on it.
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But but in 1983, these were the kinds of songs that hit the top
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of the chart. Beat It by Michael Jackson, All
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Night Long by Lionel Richie, Little Red Corvette by Prince,
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Give Me All Your Loving by ZZ Top.
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Anything heady in that philosophical deep?
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No. Come on, Eileen.
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Very philosophical. So, but but again, it was like,
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let's party, let's have sex. That was all.
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That was what we were singing about.
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And then all of a sudden the police come out with this deep,
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heady, philosophical, like it's all about about Carl Jung.
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And it's like, whoa, Sting, you're so smart and intelligent
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and I want to know more about this.
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Which I think that's what he wanted people, that's.
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Well, but at the. Time.
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We were deep into it, yeah. Well, but it was so weird
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because he he he hid all of these lyrics in the music.
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Yeah. And, and it made you feel like
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when you're listening to it, you weren't listening to, you know,
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all of the, you were listening to the pop somewhat, but then he
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would hit you with these really heavy, heavy lyrics or really
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thoughtful lyrics. Yeah, walking in your footsteps
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is like one of the biggest ones. For that time.
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If you don't listen to it, it's like a weird, like ancient, like
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it has like the little poundings and everything.
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And then if you go in and like look at it, it's like, oh gosh,
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there's a lot to be said here. It's.
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Foreboding. Very.
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Foreboding. Yeah.
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There was a something that I read about one of them where
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they were like one of the band members wrote a song and wanted
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Sting to sing it. And he's like, no, I'm not
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singing it because I didn't write the lyrics.
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And like that was his thing. Like the lyrics were a big, big
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deal to Sting. And it's like if I didn't craft
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them, put them together, think about them, I'm not going to put
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a record out or I'm not going to put a song out where I didn't.
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Play by the band broke up. Yeah, they sting.
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Sting was kind of a thing, you know?
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So what about y'all's? So I went straight to mother
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and. I would say Mother, but then the
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next one for me would be Miss Grin Grin.
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You got to pronounce it. You got to pronounce it Wilson.
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I can't because I just, I just couldn't listen.
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Greginko. Greginko.
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Miss Greginko. Yeah, I just, that was yeah, A.
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Little bizarre, yeah. I mean, OK.
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But bizarre As bad as mother. No, but those were probably my 2
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least favorite songs on the whole album.
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OK, I have to admit this is the first time I've listened to the
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entire album. Yeah, you were a singles guy
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before. I was, yeah, You know, I was
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single back then in 83. Well, and that's, and again,
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that's what I love about you guys podcast, by the way, is it
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it? It forces you go to entire
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albums beginning because again, we're from the era of vinyl.
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For better or for worse. Well, in the vinyl years, you
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could pick up that needle and just skip right over it, you
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know? And this song, I'm 2 seconds in,
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I'm over it. I'm going to jump to, you know.
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Or or you playing playing Atari or Legos and you couldn't get up
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fast enough maybe so you had to listen to the whole record.
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Right. Or you just fell asleep because
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you were listening I. Think what he's saying is maybe
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where you are younger you are. Yes.
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And that, that's the other thing that we talk about quite a bit,
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is just the the way that the generations consume music.
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Different generations consume music now.
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You were putting money down to buy an entire album.
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Yeah, you're going to listen to it now.
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You know, you just pop a. Very interesting concept.
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Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, you download what
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you want to listen to, right? I just pop around.
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I don't have to listen to the full album.
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And you so I don't necessarily know, but.
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That's probably why I release EPS now instead of all albums,
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because, I mean, they don't think it's going to be a hit.
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They don't have to. They don't have to put it out
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there. You're good.
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You're good. I'm a nerd.
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I still download the whole album because I just want to give it a
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shot now. Yeah, I would say as the young
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one, I probably didn't listen to like albums all the way through
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until I got really deep into music.
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But I know a lot of my friends do not listen to albums all the
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way through at all. And I would say that something
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the podcast to stop you with is like I can you can make like a
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harsh decision on an album from one song that you don't like.
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Like if someone listened, be it not me, if someone listen to
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Mother on this album and decide if that's just what the album
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was like, you know, I would. Listen to another song.
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Right and that come back like that happened to me for a minute
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with Pink Floyd. I'm so sorry I've I've I've gone
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past from that. I am now a Pink Floyd fan but
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like I listen to 1 Pink Floyd song that I didn't like and I
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was like I don't want to listen anymore because that's I don't
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remember. It was one that he played for me
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when I was young. So I it was like the 20 minute
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long one where half of it was like.
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Comfortably. No.
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Yeah. That's one of their best ones
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though. Yeah.
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But I'm trying to get. A 12 year old to listen to a 20
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minute song and pay attention. And especially something like
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Floyd. That just doesn't have the
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rhythm. But I listened to the whole
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album, loved it from that. So just, you know, the nature of
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albums, Yeah. Nature of albums and music.
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So before we pivot though, to most favorites, yeah.
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There's drinks in front of me. I don't drink so I need to.
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This is what we do because. This is what we do.
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So, Riley, I would like for you to look at your first Glenn,
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Karen. And Todd does Todd get to and?
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Todd, y'all both do so and you know, just swirl it around a
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little bit. Right.
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So Riley, the is that the lowest proof one?
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Yeah, OK. Just making sure you had them
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lined up right. You didn't.
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Watch we we always go from low proof to high eye proof.
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So just do that and just take a deep breath.
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And what do you smell? Hand sanitizer.
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That's great. Maybe brown sugar hand
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sanitizer? Yeah, hand sanitizer with some
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notes of citrus maybe. All right, so now what?
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Just when you when you taste this, I just want you to just
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put just a little bit, just barely let it get to the tip of
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your tongue and and then just kind of chew it.
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It's still Germix. I can see her face.
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I can. She's like, you know what?
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She's doing the thing. She's doing.
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They're all very, very, very similar.
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Okay, So what you're drinking right now is a single barrel.
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It's Hancock's president's reserve.
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OK, this is 88.9 proof. All right, It is.
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This is really, really, really nice stuff.
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Same Nashville as you would find.
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Well. He can only get it once a year,
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so it it, it only comes out so often.
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It's a Buffalo Trace product and and so that's what makes it
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nicer than I mean for this is. The first time we've had that on
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the show. It is the first time we've had
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this on the show. And that's, that's very nice.
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I I think it is pretty. It is pretty neat.
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I will say I did it just again the first time.
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I do believe I got too much. Well, and that's.
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And that's, that's super. Light but getting a getting like
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just the tip of my tongue. That was nicer.
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You got some flavors, some. Flavors.
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Yeah, what you get. You know.
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Not germ X. Not as much I mean it.
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Was it's also like sticking your toe in water.
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OK, so you stick your toe in the water, you know, it's hot, it's
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cold. And then you kind of get a
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little more acclimated. So as you go, even when we were
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doing our cocktail quickie, you had the first taste and you were
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like, oh, but but you didn't know what you were expecting.
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And then once you go and taste it again, then you'll, you'll
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realize that there's not a long finish.
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There's just a little bit of there's just a little bit of of
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of spice in this and and it you. Get a little burn, you get a.
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Little burn, it's more in your in your front and mid palate.
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Yeah, top of my tongue, yeah. Yeah, absolutely what you're
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saying. So anyway, that is Hancock's
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president's reserve. That's good.
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Very. Cool.
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I enjoyed it. It's it's it was one of my
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favorites early on. So let's dive into the next
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segment. Let's go.
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So most favorite song? Let's go.
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Yeah, you guys got what you got. My probably favorite song was
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Murder by Numbers. Really.
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Yeah, right. Numbers 12. 3 which was.
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Over here validating. It was not originally like it
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was. It wasn't.
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It was released with ACDI think, but it wasn't originally
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considered part of the album. But I mean, it's a good song.
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It another one of the deep songs.
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I it's come up a number of times on the podcast for some reason.
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Songs that are about murder intrigue me because that was
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Maxwell's Silver Hammer by The Beatles was like I had to defend
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that song a lot because they were making fun of it.
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But there's, there is a small EP that I listen to 1st that's
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called like Music City, Music City Murder Ballad.
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And it's 3 songs that are based in Nashville and are all like
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these like beautiful, like murder ballads that you're like,
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it's just such a funnily enough synchronicity where it's like
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this strong difference between like murder is obviously not
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good, don't condone it. And it's like this gruesome
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thing. But to be like sung about in
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such like this eloquently beautiful way and thought out,
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It's like such a difference. And the whole point was it's,
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it's easy. Like once your mind gets past
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the fact that it's a bad thing, it's really.
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It's as easy as the ABC. 'S 12312.
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Three, it felt like it was like a nursery rhyme almost like, you
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know, you, you know, you're kind of getting into it a little bit
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and you go, oh, you know, this kind of really, it's kind of,
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it's got a little jazzy to it and it kind of and it kind of
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makes you feel like, oh, you know, 123 And then when you stop
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and listen to it, you go, Oh my gosh, what are we talking about?
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Yeah. But I think that, like fits the
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lyrics. So like, the fact that it is
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such an easy listen to, it kind of brings in that idea of like,
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once you kind of numb yourself to this idea, it's so easy to
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just go out and do what you want.
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Yeah. Well, and to me, the drums on
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that song, Stewart Copeland, the way it changes rhythm and timing
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and all of that throughout the song is absolutely amazing.
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And it just fits because it doesn't mess up the lyrics.
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It doesn't. It just helps the song flow for
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whatever. It's just, it's a great song.
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It's almost as if, I mean, he's making a big statement, right?
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They're making a statement. They're saying, look, you know,
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if you look at things just like statistics, you know, and I and
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I just say this is, you know, whatever 123, I mean, if you're
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saying that it's OK, you know, that happens in that
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neighborhood, you know, so whatever, you know that, you
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know what, you just stay out of that neighborhood.
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It's not that easy, right? And we all need to take a stand
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and we all need to recognize this is a bad thing, right?
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You know, you need violence and, and, and, and murder is not
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good, but anybody can get there as long as they're following
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123. You can slide off off the rails
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pretty quick if you're not paying attention when they're
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talking about humanity and he's talking about humanity, so.
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We're you're not immune, you're not above.
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That's exactly. Don't.
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Don't think you're special. That's right.
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Right, so there were some cheers when she said murder by numbers
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there. Was one cheer for relief that.
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Was me, was that your most favorite too?
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My most favorite and I and it was.
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I've never heard it before until I started listening to it this
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week. And, and, and you know, I mean,
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I, you know, I'd love to say, you know, one of the others that
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everybody listen to over and over again that I know all the
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lyrics to, you know, is #1 but you know, I, I, I this really, I
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guess it's the, the 1-2 three, you know, it just, I just slid
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right into it and I was like, oh, I kind of like this, right.
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And then, you know, I was a little disturbed, but but I'm
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felt. Guilty.
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Oh, it's murder. Yeah.
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Maybe I shouldn't. So, Eric Wilson, what about
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y'all? I'll let you be a favorite song.
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It's it's a toss up between King of Pain and Synchronicity.
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You're not allowed to pick 2 Wilson.
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Right, so Synchronicity 2 did you?
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Choose the Lee rule. Good choice from a weird person.
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Good choice. I mean, I'm, I'm on you with
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that's my. Favorite because that's I.
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I, I really like this album when I was 13 and, but I hadn't
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listened to it from beginning to end in a long time.
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And when I started listening to it again the last week or so,
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just the lyrics caught me again of how they, I mean, just how
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mundane, you know, just the work life and how you just miss so
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much because you're in, you know, in the zone and, you know,
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the protesters and the secretaries and the.
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Dealing. With your boss.
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He drilled a hole right through the shellac of this whole
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utopian suburban family society. It's like it's it's all garbage.
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Everybody's miserable. Stop, pretend.
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And you're talking earlier about being authentic and real.
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That was a whole about all about this is all a charade.
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Yeah. It's a great song.
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The Andy Summers kills it on the.
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Guitar, the opening, I mean, I know we'll get in the bars and
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beats later, but that I mean when, when I, I told you that
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was my first, that was my first concert.
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They opened with synchronicity too.
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It was just like, and Sting comes up on stage and the wind's
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blowing in his hair and so you're getting caught up in that
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old. Hair back then.
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Oh man, that's flying. It was.
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Flying. So you mentioned that That was
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one of the reasons I think that I liked Synchronicity too, was
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because for the rest of the album it was more like a 70's
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rock song than it was an 80's rock song to me.
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No, I get that. Because it was driving.
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I mean, it was, it was kicking. It was.
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And the sound that they had for three musicians is.
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For three musicians, 3. Musicians, how do they do all
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that? And that's the thing, like you,
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you hear Sting so often and you think, OK, Sting is this voice.
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And, you know, we we talk about it all the time.
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You know, for me, the the voice is just another instrument.
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But yet you forget like he was the bassist.
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Yeah. So like the bass that's going on
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in the song that that's helping with the drums drive it along
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like that's staying while he's sitting there singing.
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And then that guitar is, you know, that's very closer to my
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sort of, you know, I'm a my senior year, I like to say, you
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know, 9091 is when I started. So I had Nirvana, Pearl Jam all
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come out my senior year. Like that distortion, like you
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get some of that here in this song.
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And so it fit very well with my musical taste.
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So I enjoyed it. Did you get your favorite?
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In I mean, it's king of pain, but also Oh my God and.
20:19
You get too. So since since my guy on King of
20:24
Pain, let's talk about Oh my God for a minute.
20:34
So what what I liked about so again, we talked about Sting
20:38
really wanting to speak to society and and mankind and it
20:41
was is it was just a simple lament.
20:44
It felt like I was reading King David's Psalms.
20:46
I mean, it was just his relationship with God and his
20:48
struggles, very human struggles with trying to understand and
20:52
fill the gap. Fill the gap, fill it up.
20:54
Fill it up. I think that's what he said.
20:56
And it was just, it was, it was raw and vulnerable.
20:59
And I, I like that again, he's, he tends to be, he wants to be
21:02
seen as this heady, smart guy, but he was revealing himself as
21:05
completely vulnerable. There's one other piece that
21:07
really brought that to the top of my list.
21:09
So, so if you listen to to police prior to this Ghost in
21:13
the machine, their big reggae rock breakthrough when he sang
21:17
about every little thing she does is magic.
21:22
There's a line which is all about his relationship with his
21:25
woman and it he feels like creepy, but he's giving too much
21:29
to the relationship and he's not getting enough out of that's the
21:31
point in that song. He's got the line.
21:33
Do I have to tell the story of 1000 rainy days since we first
21:36
met? It's a big enough umbrella, but
21:38
it's always me that ends up getting wet.
21:39
So he's saying we've been together for a long time.
21:41
We've we've endured a lot, but I'm the one who has to carry the
21:43
burden. He brings that exact lyric back,
21:46
back and Oh my God. And so everything, every little
21:50
thing she does is magic is about his relationship with this
21:52
woman. And now he's using the same
21:53
metaphor in his relationship with this with God, which is
21:56
just kind of cool. He does that.
21:58
He brings some threads forward from his other stuff.
22:01
I will also say that song is from what I've read Oh my God is
22:06
also loosely because sometimes seen as a retelling of
22:10
Lamentations so. Well, and King of Pain also is
22:14
very much about lamentations, yeah.
22:16
Which fits. Yeah, very good.
22:17
And and Sting's another one of those that you, you talking
22:21
about his voice. He and, and we've we've had we
22:25
were talking about it between episodes.
22:27
I guess that we're here. The guy from Arcade Fire, like
22:31
you can feel the emotion in his voice as he's singing Sting and
22:37
like, that's man, that's always impressive when a singer can do
22:40
that. So before we, I guess we got, we
22:44
didn't. Hear Todd's favorite for the.
22:46
No, I was synchronicity too. Which let me say this really
22:50
quick before we go, the album's called synchronicity.
22:53
We mentioned Carl Jung. I'm gonna read the definition of
22:56
synchronicity so people understand it because he based
22:59
it on this concept. So it's kind of important within
23:01
the album, but Carl Jung defines synchronicity as a meaningful
23:06
coincidence of two or more events where something other
23:09
than the probability of chance is involved.
23:11
So if that gets you kind of an idea, but synchronicity too is
23:14
the one where you can most clearly understand that like
23:17
idea. And that's what it was meant to
23:19
be because it was this like middle class, like working class
23:24
family doing their normal life and then like a Loch Ness
23:27
Monster coming. Out on the other.
23:28
Side and like the parallels between those two that like
23:31
can't just be by chance. And so if you want to understand
23:35
like the purpose of synchronicity, I would say
23:37
listen to synchronicity too. And the depth of like the role
23:40
of physics and supernatural and all these things.
23:42
At the end of the day, it lists the Carl Jung version is there
23:45
really isn't things that you think are coincidence or really
23:47
not coincidence there. There's something else behind
23:49
all that. Something meaning.
23:52
And that's assuming that you're listening to the lyrics.
23:54
So like, she's like, Oh yeah. And all this that's way over my
23:59
head. So but I love it.
24:02
I'm a philosophy minor if that indicates anything else.
24:04
You. Can get along just fine.
24:07
Yeah. So is there anything
24:08
coincidental about this next drink that you?
24:10
Brought. So the next drink we have in the
24:12
next class would be this. The first one had a mash bill.
24:17
Mash bill is the grains that are used to make it was corn, rye
24:23
and barley. OK, this one is corn, wheat and
24:27
barley. I can smell that you can.
24:30
No, but I love it. I was like, wow, she is so
24:35
advanced. So we, we, mom and I have
24:40
figured out a new term dude, thanks to our younger generation
24:43
of rage baiting. I heard that term at Christmas.
24:47
That is exactly what she just did.
24:49
Wow, I love that. I love that.
24:51
I've heard that at Christmas. It's interesting.
24:53
Yeah, Yeah. Well.
24:55
OK, so I'm not raging, but this is another one.
25:00
So this also is a Buffalo Trace bourbon.
25:04
So this is Weller 12. So it's a 12 year old weeded
25:08
bourbon. It's pretty nice.
25:11
And the fact that it all to it also doesn't it's not readily
25:15
available on your shelves. So smells different too, doesn't
25:19
it? Can you tell the difference?
25:20
It's just. Sweeter, see if you can sell the
25:22
difference. So for me, yeah.
25:24
It's definitely a little. Sweeter it sounds.
25:25
It should be a little sweeter. Nobody's going to think I'm
25:27
authentic now. There is a difference in smell.
25:29
OK, one smells, for lack of better words, sharper than the
25:32
other. OK, the first one.
25:34
I think the first one smells sharper.
25:35
Yeah, I think that's the rye. That's right, that's the rye
25:37
that makes it. So wheat would be.
25:38
Spice. The wheat Wheat tends to be a
25:41
little more smooth, Smooth and sweeter, softer, especially the
25:45
older that it gets. You know, you you see that in
25:48
the the age in a weeded bourbon tends to be a lot more
25:52
approachable than that of a ride.
25:57
And and we recorded our desert island special.
25:59
We haven't released it yet, but we we each got to pick if we
26:02
could have one bourbon. If we were stuck on a desert
26:04
island, what would it be? This was my choice because I
26:07
just, I do like the lower proof. I like weeded and I like a
26:09
little bit sweet, and this thing is special, yeah.
26:12
Well, it's very hard to get. What do you what do you think?
26:15
I mean, it tastes did. You taste it the same way.
26:17
Yes, I did. And did you so you didn't get
26:19
too much this first time? Okay, I did not.
26:21
There is a difference in taste like that I can I would be able
26:26
to tell that they were two different ones, right.
26:28
So there's that's a big step. There's a big.
26:31
Step, but I don't know if I can put a finger on the exact line.
26:34
This is your first time to drink meat bourbon.
26:36
Yeah, So. So I'm pretty impressed that I
26:39
mean, that's good that you can tell the difference.
26:41
And to me, the the first one when I first sipped, it burned
26:46
faster than this one does. I don't know that's supposed to.
26:50
Happen that has to do with the rye, Yeah.
26:52
So, so Riley called that sharp versus smooth.
26:55
I mean, that's exactly, that's part of the reason why I like
26:57
this. My palate's not nearly as
26:58
refined as Lee's. And so if something blows my
27:01
palate out, I'm not picking up tasting notes.
27:03
This is 1. You can taste whatever is in
27:05
there. You can taste it because it's
27:06
just that wheat makes it smoother.
27:08
So this proof is 90 proof. So you're only just a little bit
27:11
over less than two, two points higher on proof.
27:15
So this is not near, I mean this is very approachable and is is
27:21
one that is sought out that a lot of people they pay, they pay
27:26
a lot of of spend a lot of time in lines and they do a lot of
27:30
time hunting for both of these so.
27:34
I like it better. You like it?
27:35
Better there. You go.
27:36
Good. Choice.
27:37
See that if we can boil it down to I like this one better, this
27:42
one. And once you get them in order,
27:44
that's how it starts. I mean, you know, you just have
27:46
to decide what you like and don't like.
27:48
I like the texture of it more. It, it, it is.
27:51
No, it does. It does.
27:53
Does it feel a little, just a little silkier in your mouth?
27:58
I was. Going to say pillow.
27:59
Pillowier. Perfect.
28:01
That's a great example. That's a great description.
28:04
So let's go on to our next one. So this is where we finally talk
28:08
about why is this album on our list?
28:11
And so really for that one, and our normal list comes from a
28:15
poster that Rally gets and reads and says this is what you listen
28:19
to. This was a little bit different.
28:21
So this one came from the crackers and so why?
28:26
So I guess Wilson was. Wilson suggested.
28:29
I think you. Said you initially suggested so
28:31
we'll give as a refill happens over here.
28:34
We'll let you kick start and say why'd you have us re listen to
28:39
this? Well, I think growing up this
28:42
was one of my, when I started getting into music, my dad loved
28:47
music and I mean we just listen to music together all the time.
28:50
And so when I started getting into it, this is one of the
28:53
first albums I bought or wanted and so.
28:57
Positive King of Pain or? Well, Every Breath You Take was
29:01
the big hit off the album, but King of Pain.
29:05
Both synchronicities and so to me it just brought back memories
29:11
and and I hadn't listened to it in a long time, but I love the
29:13
police and I thought this would be a good choice.
29:17
So I shared that when he mentioned that.
29:19
Musically too, it covers some no go.
29:21
Ahead, Wilson, you're talking. But I mean, it's got some reggae
29:25
to it. It's got some jazz in there.
29:27
Like, Oh my God, at the end of that, when he's just the end,
29:30
when it goes to the instrumental part, it's very jazzy.
29:33
You've got murder by numbers. I mean, just, there's so much
29:37
different music on it than just like a rock album, you know?
29:42
I mean, like you would say a Zeppelin or Rush or I mean, but
29:46
this is, it covers so much kind of space that to me it, I think
29:51
it was. It gave us good talking points
29:53
for sure, yeah. For sure, for sure.
29:55
And then so when he mentioned this, I, I, I shared my first
29:59
ever live concert was the the police Synchronicity tour.
30:01
So immediately, again, nostalgia brought back memories, but I
30:04
also we're looking for something different in music.
30:07
You know, we talked earlier about you sit in your own bubble
30:09
and you get to liking what you like.
30:10
And I was all into the typical hits of the day that we're
30:13
rolling on MTV and this comes out and just felt so heady and
30:16
philosophical and different. And I wouldn't, I didn't
30:18
understand it. I just knew it was heady and
30:20
philosophical and different like I didn't do.
30:21
And it was a little bit like what Bono and you 2 would bring
30:25
five years later. And so just it, it made you want
30:28
to dig deeper into the music than just the superficial beats
30:32
and the rhythm and what you enjoyed, which I again, to
30:35
Wilson's point, this one has some great beats, but that was
30:38
just one of those bubble Breakers at the time.
30:42
Yeah, so Riley, what about what about you?
30:45
Why should people listen to this album?
30:46
Why do you think people should listen to it?
30:48
So somebody that's younger? Right, so most people know this
30:53
album because that are my age because of Every Breath You Take
30:57
was on Stranger Things and it's featured on it a few times in
31:02
like pretty sweet moments. Every birth you take is a pretty
31:06
well known what most people would say love song and gets
31:09
played at weddings. And I would say listen to this
31:11
album for no other reason than to know not to play it at your
31:14
wedding. Yeah, really not meant to be
31:17
played at your weddings. Like there was a story that I
31:20
read somewhere. Yeah.
31:22
And someone was saying someone told Sting that they that was
31:25
their wedding song and he told them good luck.
31:27
Like he was like, that's not what it's meant to be just.
31:32
But I would say other than that, it's such a well known song.
31:36
You have songs like King of Pain 2 that most people have heard
31:40
some semblance of it and most people know the name.
31:43
Staying for sure give the album a chance for no other reason
31:48
than knowing. Like, like, that sounds so
31:51
cheesy, but it's such a well known song, such well known
31:54
singer, all of that, and there's so much more to it that it
31:58
deserves that credit. 8 million albums. 8 million albums were
32:02
sold. Yeah.
32:03
That's a lot. So you know, we're we're Spotify
32:06
people and so every breath you take is the 31st most stream
32:10
song almost 3.2 billion streams that's.
32:15
Crazy. That's a lot.
32:16
That's a lot. So we're we're about 25 albums
32:20
episodes in the hour show and that is by far the biggest song
32:25
that we've had. So 3.2 billion is that's a lot
32:29
of people. That's a lot of people, yeah,
32:31
that, you know, sit there, probably think they're listening
32:34
to a sweet love song. But.
32:36
No, it's kind of creepy. It's super creepy.
32:38
It definitely. Is and there are such particular
32:40
choices to make it creepy that I I was telling them about it.
32:43
Like the difference between saying like you belong with me
32:47
versus you belong to me is like such a smart, like very
32:51
particular difference to be made.
32:53
That changes so much in my opinion.
32:55
Like that that may change as age.
32:57
But like if someone that I was like, you know, didn't even know
33:01
that well or like divorced to came and said you belong to me,
33:05
I'd have a different reaction than if they were trying to say
33:08
like, oh, we belong together. You belong with me.
33:11
You know, somewhere I saw that Sting said that he was getting
33:13
like at maybe the high point like $2000 per day because of
33:19
that song and the royalties that come from that.
33:22
Like that's a, that's a nice little.
33:24
It's a nice page change, yeah. Yeah, so.
33:27
Must be nice. Yeah, don't measure, don't
33:29
measure your future income, Riley on that, no.
33:32
Or don't write a hit song. You know, spent 17 weeks on #1
33:36
at the charts in 83. And it actually was one, I
33:41
think, that pulled off Thriller. So, you know another.
33:45
Wow album. Yeah, in fact.
33:47
The selling of all time, yeah. It was nominated for Album of
33:50
the Year in 84 OR. Won three Grammys that year.
33:54
But, and if it hadn't been for Michael Jackson thriller, a lot
33:57
of people feel like it would have won.
33:58
It would have. So it was super popular, yeah.
34:00
Long story short, that was their most sold album of all of
34:04
theirs. Yeah.
34:05
Oh yeah, and their last. Their last one.
34:07
Yeah, and the other one that was out on album of the year, just
34:11
because I've just to show and prove that I, at least 1/2 of
34:16
Barbara Cuts has listened to some of the sort of crackers
34:20
episodes. Billy Joel was also an album of
34:23
the year. Here we go.
34:25
Thank you an innocent man. So here we go.
34:27
I just think, but I mean, also we talked about this like
34:31
because of the way he writes about lyrics, like they're very
34:35
specific to the times, yes, but they're so applicable to like
34:38
all the time with like his ambiguity and how he kind of
34:43
words things. Like it's a very easy listen.
34:46
You can technically listen to it and ignore the lyrics and have a
34:50
great life and still think it's a great album.
34:52
And then if you give it another chance and listen to lyrics, you
34:54
get a whole new side of the band really.
34:57
And it still feels relevant today because of that, I think.
35:02
Yeah, that's well said for sure. And then you go back and you go,
35:05
why don't I pick that song for my wedding?
35:08
Well, my favorite quote from it is him calling it.
35:10
It's a nasty little song, rather really evil that's like.
35:13
So it's a perfect example of it, but it's so funny.
35:17
And it's understated if you really get into it, for sure.
35:20
So next segment, best beats and bars, but I guess before we go
35:25
there, let's see. We got one more little tank.
35:27
Save the best for last. We, we, well, I don't know.
35:31
It's what we did was we did 3 differents.
35:34
We have three different tastes today.
35:36
This last taste is a rye whiskey, not a bourbon.
35:41
OK, It is also it's angel's envy.
35:44
It is finished in French oak staves.
35:48
OK, so. And they also came from an
35:52
Inejo. Don't say that right?
35:55
Nope. Say it, Say it for me.
35:56
Eric and yay ho. And yay ho and yay ho tequila
36:00
barrels. So they took tequila barrels,
36:02
took the stage broken apart, and they put that in with the
36:07
barrels of bourbon, which we're all in this big VAT.
36:11
And they spun it around like you would do when you're when you're
36:15
spinning, when you're making mashed potatoes in your blender,
36:19
basically. And you take all that and you,
36:21
you, you spin it around and you let it do that for days.
36:24
And it just kind of does a slow thing.
36:26
So it takes on the flavor of the tequila.
36:29
And the French oak would bring in possibly some vanilla in
36:34
there. But this is a rye whiskey.
36:37
OK. So like this.
36:39
You do. I do.
36:41
Good for you. All right, Tell me what you
36:43
like. I I whenever you said vanilla,
36:46
that's what I noted. It's easy when someone says it
36:50
to put a finger on it, but I think it's the most like not
36:56
sweet, but. It's deserty.
36:59
Yeah. It's very deserty.
37:01
Yeah, it's kind of. It's nice because.
37:03
Angel Zombie Rye has always felt very deserty to me.
37:08
But it has a little bit of like, like not salt, but like it's not
37:13
so sweet like it has that. It's not like too rich.
37:17
It has something that cuts it a little bit.
37:19
I think, I think that has to do with the tequila, the French,
37:21
the French oak and the tequila barrels, both tequila barrel,
37:26
you're going to get the agave, you know, the agave sweet that
37:31
comes out of that. And to me it often makes me
37:33
think of bell Peppers. And then, and then also the
37:37
French oak often makes me think of vanilla bean.
37:41
Yeah, and. What's while usually it's the
37:44
other way, when you think of tequilas that are getting
37:46
creative, they almost all finish in some kind of a bourbon
37:49
barrel. And so this is the first one
37:51
I've had that is the other way around.
37:54
And I love that that the the spirit industry is trying all
37:57
these different finishes because it's completely mixing up the
38:00
flavors and it's getting us new things to try.
38:03
When I have the regular Angels Envy rye, I I think of dessert,
38:07
Creme brulee, I think of of s'mores and and and that kind of
38:11
stuff. But when you finish it with
38:13
this, it is it is very much to me.
38:18
I think it's it's pretty dessert.
38:19
It's pretty delightful. Yeah.
38:21
This also is a pretty special bottle.
38:22
Well, what's interesting too to me is that I thought even though
38:26
the Angel's envy is. This is the highest proof.
38:28
Yes, but it's it's not as hot as the Hancock Reserve.
38:31
No, it's not. And because and and and so this
38:35
is actually. Very smooth.
38:36
This is 104 proof versus the 88. They've also all hit different
38:41
spots for me, which is really. Funny.
38:43
So this one, this one for me was easy to like, like drink and
38:48
then swish around and have in your mouth and not go like my
38:52
mouth is on fire and then you swallow it and like, oh, Yep,
38:56
there it goes. And I can feel it as it goes
38:59
down and right, which is different than the other two,
39:03
but yet still smooth. Yes, well, I specifically chose,
39:09
yeah, I chose 3 completely different tastes so that you
39:15
would have a range to understand how different not, not all
39:20
bourbon or whiskey is created equal.
39:22
So I just wanted you to, to, to taste the flavor of each of
39:26
these and hopefully that was a, a great way to expand your, your
39:32
palate. I will.
39:33
Say, Barbara, it's one of the things that we, we find that we
39:36
have in common with your podcast and ours is similar to how we're
39:40
trying to if, if the only bourbon you've had was, you
39:43
know, that the white label Jim Beam in college, don't give up
39:47
on it. Try new things.
39:48
And you're doing the same thing with music.
39:50
If the only song you listen to on that one album turned you
39:53
off, don't give up. Go try back, you know, go back
39:55
and re examine and find your wheelhouse.
39:58
And that's, that's a perfect example of this where just we,
40:02
we tend to rush to judgment on things and and yeah, not
40:05
everything's going to hit your palate or your ears, right.
40:08
But at the same time, give things a second chance.
40:11
You might be surprised. Well, unless you have a
40:15
fraternity brother lives in the attorney house that had one CD
40:18
and it was Steve Miller Band and every time he got inebriated.
40:23
I mean, it took me about 15 years to where I could listen to
40:25
the Steve Miller Band again because it was every Friday
40:28
night. Steve Miller Band it was.
40:30
Crazy man. Oh crap.
40:34
Here we go. He's ready to rock.
40:39
Well anyway, so yes, give it a chance.
40:41
Yeah, so I guess best beat. So I'll start this one.
40:47
And my best beat was a song that we've briefly mentioned, but the
40:52
opening of Walking in Your Footsteps.
41:08
Just the way that it's almost like a safari jungle, which
41:11
makes sense once you get to the lyrics, but the drums, the flute
41:16
synthesizer I think is going in there.
41:18
And so just those different instruments and different sounds
41:23
that you don't often get in. A lot of the music that we
41:27
listen to came together really nice and then LED in again his
41:33
voice and and the the song as it's going just kind of fit well
41:39
with the, you know, talking about dinosaurs and things.
41:42
So if you're in the dinosaurs, this is your song.
41:44
But listen. To it, also pay attention to the
41:46
way he says foot, because it's funny to me walking in your
41:52
foot, he says. Walking in your footsteps.
41:54
Yeah, it's intriguing. Oh, UK.
41:59
Kind of British. Yeah.
42:00
So, all right, so who else? So I guess we'll we'll flip over
42:04
to you, Riley. So on the lyric side of things.
42:06
And then? But the crackers have their say.
42:09
Yeah, so my favorite lyric was off of Miss Gridinko, OK, which
42:17
I talked about. It would be very hard to pick a
42:19
lyric out of synchronicity too. And it makes sense.
42:22
It's like this deep and profound lyric on its own.
42:24
It kind of requires the whole song in that realm, but Miss
42:28
Gridinko has this like lovely little burst where it's just
42:31
your uniform don't seem to fit. You're much too alive in it.
42:38
And that's like such a neat way to word it.
42:41
And like, I think everyone has felt that at some point where
42:44
it's like, oh, I'm going through the motions, but like someone
42:47
noticing it's not like quite a fit.
42:50
It's just, it's one of those things I love lyrics where it's
42:53
you can listen to it and kind of ignore it and let it roll off.
42:56
And then if you like think about it a few days later, you're
42:58
like, that said a lot more than I thought it did.
43:00
And I think that one lyric right there says it so perfectly.
43:04
Yeah, very good. So crackers, bars, beats,
43:07
whatever you want to talk about. I got a beat I I'm I'm sure it's
43:11
going to be Wilson's, but synchronicity to I just again, I
43:14
got a short attention span. You got to pull me in quick.
43:16
That song grabs you and just grabs you right into it, you
43:19
know, And in the minute that first drum hit lick hits and
43:23
then the guitar, it's just, it's just, it's powerful and it's so
43:28
creative. Again, we talked about these are
43:30
three guys putting all this music together and they they hit
43:34
it all in the 1st 5 seconds. Yeah.
43:37
Do they have like a drum machine and other stuff going?
43:39
On man, it's. Just this is just, I mean, it's
43:41
amazing. Yeah.
43:43
For me, Murder by numbers, the Jazz.
43:45
You like the Jazz I? Did yeah, I just but.
43:48
Just all throughout the song, the whole song it.
43:50
Just kind of like. It's meant to be like this, just
43:53
fun little listen. Song, yeah, that to me that and
43:56
I think that's what drew me in and and made that my favorite
44:00
song. Yep, and and that's again, we've
44:03
talked about it. That's another one of those
44:04
songs where you've got this happy jazzy, like nice little
44:09
feel and then you go listen to the lyrics like whoa, this does
44:12
not at all. No, it does music.
44:14
That's. Going, it's completely opposite.
44:16
So it's great when music and artists do that, right?
44:20
Yeah, but I I just think that musically the album is fantastic
44:24
and it's hard to name just one beat.
44:26
So you know, whether I'm being Lee still or not, it was.
44:29
Your last you get. To no, but it was a hard choice.
44:31
I mean, it really was because I thought the beginning of
44:34
synchronicity just the. The original like first.
44:36
Track No, I mean no, I'm sorry. Synchronicity to the beginning
44:39
of that and then and Oh my God, at the end when it just kind of
44:44
changes gears when they stop singing.
44:46
And then that jazzy kind of the saxophone and the I love that
44:50
too. And then the drums by Copeland
44:52
and Murder by Numbers. But there's just so much
44:55
musically in there that it's just hard to you.
44:58
Know it's interesting this album is called synchronicity the very
45:01
first song is synchronicity 1 and I don't think we've talked
45:03
about it in any context whether. It's kind of weird, yeah.
45:07
I it's a it's a great beat. It's it's a it, it sets the tone
45:11
for the album for sure, because you know it's going to be kind
45:14
of a little bit it was. Almost like the preamble.
45:16
It was kind of like the preamble.
45:17
It was meant to be like an intro to the idea of literally because
45:21
people call it a concept album and it was meant to just be like
45:24
the introduction to like the concept.
45:26
So like the pre log or like the person who's just writing about
45:29
like what the book is about. That's kind of what
45:31
synchronicity was. So and that way it didn't really
45:33
stand out on its own so much as it was just an explanation.
45:38
Yeah, foreshadowing. You mentioned Carl Jung and
45:42
really the, the inspiration was this book Roots of coincidence
45:46
was, which was a summation of Carl Jung, obviously, but the
45:49
the idea was exactly that. Are are we losing me?
45:53
The idea was exactly that. Just to, to set the stage for
45:56
this idea that, hey, not everything in life is
45:58
coincidental. And there's a lot at at work
46:00
that we don't see and we don't detect, but it's still, it's
46:03
still there working. Which is very interesting is
46:06
someone, for someone like Sting who's not religious at all to
46:10
say like there's just like that pool.
46:13
It's very cool listening to it and then his.
46:16
Religion was philosophy. Yeah, yeah.
46:18
Which is a religion of its own sort, but it's very cool.
46:22
Hollow. Yeah.
46:24
So I guess last is just roll around and give it a rating. 10
46:30
point scale for is it 1010? And you can do.
46:33
We can do decimals on. Point.
46:35
You can do decimals on point fives I guess.
46:38
Sometimes I do weirder ones. Are you gonna go a 4.7 or
46:42
something or 4I mean 4? .75. 77.
46:45
But what we try to do sometimes, and we can do it here is we do a
46:49
personal rating out of 10. So like, how do you feel about
46:52
it? And then an objective rating.
46:54
So like, try to put yourself in the shoes of someone who is
46:57
making the music. Did they succeed at what they
46:59
were trying to do? Is it like, because there's, I
47:02
mean, Fleetwood, Fleetwood Mac is my example.
47:04
Fleetwood Mac is an objectively like you can't argue based on
47:07
numbers and all of that. Like they're an objectively good
47:10
musical band. It's just not my type of music.
47:13
So you can get that way. We can give credit to bands that
47:17
even we don't have that big of an opinion on.
47:20
Well, why don't since we picked the album, you guys go first?
47:24
That's scary. That's the scary part.
47:27
Well, we need an example too. So, you know, for, for police,
47:33
the rabbit approves. So well, yeah, one knock for,
47:38
you know, for each score. So, you know, for police what we
47:45
say personally, you know, I it was 80s music and I mentioned
47:51
like that's that's not really my thing.
47:53
But yet, as I went back and listened to it, the four singles
47:57
I remember, like those are top notch.
47:59
Like those are really good. Songs, they were really good,
48:02
really. Good.
48:03
I mean, despite the creepiness of, you know, everybody great.
48:07
But the rest of the album I'm like, OK, I like this one.
48:12
I like this 1 and in its own different kind of weird ways
48:16
and, and some moments, you know, and so I think I ended up at
48:21
like A8 because I'm like, it's not bad.
48:25
There's just a couple on here really for me, mother and Miss
48:28
Credinko that just are very weird.
48:32
And then you take those out for me and.
48:35
So that's your, that's your personal rating, isn't?
48:37
It yes, yes, you know, and, and I think objectively for me, it
48:40
stays right in there because like again, it's, it's a good
48:42
album. It's the last album of of the
48:45
police again, you you know the names, you know, most people
48:49
will know the name staying. Maybe maybe not some of the
48:52
other guys, but you know, people know staying and and the police
48:57
is kind of what launched him into that solo career.
49:00
So, Riley, what you got? So I would say objectively I
49:06
would probably end at like an 88.52 just because we talked
49:10
about two. She's the least still no I.
49:12
Said eight. I love that.
49:13
No, I said. 8.59. I said 8.5 as well, not 8 point.
49:18
Two like TO. But as well, yes, OK, well.
49:21
I mean. This is not the price is right,
49:23
really, we don't outdid. You know that extra 2 is very
49:27
important. Yes.
49:28
No, I think like we said, even the songs that I said that I
49:33
liked, they didn't quite fit. There is some parts of the album
49:37
that clashed or you could loosely tell that there were
49:39
problems going on with the band based on like how they worked
49:42
things out, but it was still an incredible album overall
49:47
objectively. I mean, the impact that it's had
49:50
can't be ignored. I would say on a personal level,
49:54
I liked it more than I thought I would because I didn't know the
49:58
album off the top of my head. And so he said Every breath you
50:00
take and all it meant I went like, oh boy, that one.
50:04
Just because like again, blaming an album on a song is not fair,
50:08
but 80s music is not usually my music and so I tend to venture
50:16
late 70's rock straight to the 90s per his teaching.
50:20
That's my fault. It's all good.
50:22
I liked it more but I would still say it would end around
50:24
like A7 for me. A 6.57 OK.
50:27
I really enjoyed the lyrics side of things.
50:31
So you just said six or seven? No, don't, guys.
50:38
I can't do that. You sounded like that.
50:39
My job and I didn't do it, yes. Now I can't go back because
50:46
that's what it is. But I love the lyrics and the
50:51
intentionality behind the lyrics.
50:53
So that kind of upgraded it for me.
50:55
Even if I don't, even if I don't love the song, if I love the
50:58
lyrics, that can boost it. And so that's really kind of
51:00
what happened for me with this album.
51:03
I'm glad we broadened your horizons.
51:05
Thank you. Both with bourbon and with
51:06
music, yes. Yeah.
51:08
So I'll go quickly that I'm an 80s guy.
51:10
So. So this one hit the mark.
51:13
If if you look at what it did, this was the number 17 on
51:16
Rolling Stones list of top 100 eighties albums.
51:19
Yeah, I'm hearing music too, and it's not staying.
51:22
It was inducted in the Grammy Hall of Fame in 2009.
51:25
A solid 9, truly, both personally.
51:28
And what was the other category? Professional, objectively.
51:31
I mean, this is just this is when I go to.
51:34
And like I said, when when Wilson threw it out there, I'm
51:36
like, yeah, let's do it. Yeah, that makes sense.
51:40
For me, I'm poor, probably like a six on personally and and I
51:48
guess that's because I kind of like 6 of the songs.
51:52
That's usually that's hard to pull off.
51:54
I mean, you know, but but I, but I think, you know, the impact of
51:58
some of the singles that were here, you you really have to get
52:01
objectively, you have to go closer to that 8 range because I
52:07
mean, those were, I mean, those were awesome videos because,
52:11
yeah, there's this thing called MTV Video counted music
52:14
television. I wish I was alive for.
52:16
MTV, you would have loved it because.
52:17
When they play videos, it was it was good stuff.
52:20
I. Love music.
52:22
We go to a place called Rock'n'roll Sushi and they play
52:24
MTV like music videos as if it was, and I will ignore everyone
52:29
at lunch to just watch the videos and they always tell me
52:32
that I would have loved MTV. Go find wrapped around your
52:35
finger. That video is so good.
52:37
Amazing. It's cool.
52:38
Did I? Did I see recently that that
52:40
that MTV is gone? Oh RIP, that just did.
52:45
No, couldn't. It was gone.
52:46
It's been gone for 15 years. Yeah, but I think they actually
52:49
officially. Yeah, they officially took it
52:50
off the air. Like this last month?
52:52
So. But at the end of the day, I, I,
52:56
I, I think that's where I stand. So 6 for me.
52:59
I mean, I was surprised. Never listened to the whole
53:01
album but. I would say this is, it's up
53:05
there. It's that is a great record
53:09
other than a couple of songs really for me, because I haven't
53:13
liked Tina, Tina Sahar, but I would say it's at least an 8 for
53:20
me personally. And then objectively, I would
53:23
say it's up there too, you know, because I think, I mean, this
53:27
gives you an understanding of who the police were and what
53:29
they did. And it was their best selling
53:31
record, probably considered the best band out of England at that
53:36
time. And I mean, they were huge.
53:39
I mean, they were just good. And I think if if you enjoy the
53:42
police, I mean, this is by far their best record.
53:47
And so I would I would say maybe even 85.
53:51
Oh, he's. The more he thinks about he's
53:53
adding decimals, well. It was really a fun listening to
53:56
this record again from beginning to end.
53:58
That that that was my because. I had listened to it from
54:00
beginning to end and. Same.
54:03
Yeah, I downloaded this thing and as I was driving back and
54:05
forth to work I'm listening to, I was like, man, this is
54:08
rediscovering this stuff. It was fun.
54:09
I was, I'd forgotten, you know? And so anyway, it's fun to go
54:12
back. So we appreciate y'all's podcast
54:15
too, just because it brings back memories and what we're doing.
54:19
Where can we find you guys? So we're Barbara Cuts pod, so
54:23
just go search for that and Instagram and YouTube X.
54:29
But we're also Barbara Cuts wherever you find podcast and
54:33
that should bring it up. Beats and bars is a little
54:36
subtitle, but it's a catchy name for us.
54:39
So, Barber, because that's who we are in.
54:43
Riley Barber not. Because of the haircuts, but
54:45
because of a cut of music. So.
54:47
Love it, I love it. So love your, love your podcast,
54:50
love everything you're doing. So glad that we could do this
54:53
today. This match has been fun.
54:55
This is one of my better, more favorite.
54:57
Hopefully we can do it again. For sure.
54:59
And the same thing. Like what about you guys?
55:01
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55:02
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55:06
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55:27
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55:42
Big news, big news, big news. Barbara's been fun.
55:45
I'm so tired. Thank you all for coming.
55:47
You guys have brought freshness. Thanks.
55:49
For having. Us.
55:50
Thanks. It's been, it's been a blast.
55:51
Yeah, that's great. All right, guys.
55:53
Hey, what's going on, Wilson? All I ask is please.
55:57
Don't go stale and be willing to try new flavors.
56:00
And new albums. And new albums.
56:39
Well, that was just so much fun. Thank you again to the Assorted
56:44
Cracker family for having us. We had an absolute blast getting
56:49
to talk to you all about synchronicity and hear other
56:53
people's opinions than just our own.
56:56
But all good things come to an end, except ours, I guess.
57:02
It's not a good thing coming to an end.
57:03
It's just a refresh start. We're just back to our regularly
57:06
scheduled programming. We just have another new album.
57:09
It's going to be just us 2 talking about it, and it's a
57:13
pretty interesting one to start back on.
57:15
Boo Boo Doo. We are starting back with
57:19
Beyoncé. Bye Beyoncé.
57:23
That's good. That is an album that I would.
57:27
I think it's safe to say that it's pretty out of both of our
57:30
genres and our reaches, so I'm curious to see where it takes us
57:37
honestly. Interesting to listen to that
57:39
and I'll echo Riley's sentiments and thank the guys over at 3
57:45
sort of Crackers and hopefully we can do that again and
57:49
hopefully y'all enjoyed that. So until next time, I'm done.
57:57
I'm Riley and this was another episode of Barbara Cuts.