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Normally Podcast: Democrats’ New Playbook? Graham Platner, James Talarico, UK Violence & the Rise of the “Happy Europeans” · Normally

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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to Normally, the show with normalist
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Speaker 1: Well, we are fans of yours on here normally, and
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Speaker 1: we actually quote you quite often, so this is a
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Speaker 1: perfect fit. Other than again, you're not as good as
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Speaker 1: Mary Catherine, but you know you're You're okay, You're okay.
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Speaker 2: Who is really so?
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Speaker 1: Graham Platner won the US Senate primary to be the
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Speaker 1: Democratic candidate from Maine last night. It wasn't surprising. He
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Speaker 1: was really the only major candidate running after Janet Mills,
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Speaker 1: the governor, had dropped out. Are you surprised that the
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Speaker 1: Democrats have nominated a guy with a Nazi tattoo?
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Speaker 2: No, nothing that those guys do over there surprises me
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Speaker 2: these days. I think the background on him is more
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Speaker 2: fascinating than the guy himself. There's just to me, there's
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Speaker 2: not much there. I saw a great post where someone said, up,
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Speaker 2: this guy wasn't running for office, you'd be telling the
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Speaker 2: police to keep an eye on him. And you know,
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Speaker 2: more and more comes out. I've said this. I think
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Speaker 2: he's probably the most focused grouped candidate in history. And
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Speaker 2: I think James Tolerico's creepy preacher Eli Sunday Act in
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Speaker 2: Texas is next. And so you had a guy who's
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Speaker 2: recruited by two you know, socialist activists that are now
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Speaker 2: getting some attention for just how creepy they are coming
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Speaker 2: off in an interview with Walter so weird.
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Speaker 1: Let's let's actually play that clip before we go further. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think I'm sorry we're going to have to hear
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Speaker 1: that guy's boys. But this is from a Wall Street
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Speaker 1: Journal report by Aaron Zitner on the activist and Bernie
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Speaker 1: staffers who handpicked Platner for the main US Senate. Their
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Speaker 1: names are Daniel Morath and his fiance Leanne Fenn. And
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Speaker 1: your ears are going to hurt from the way this
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Speaker 1: guy speaks. Let's play the clip.
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Speaker 3: We've paid a nice firm a whole chunk of money
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Speaker 3: and got some stuff back. Some of what you've seen
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Speaker 3: on the news we got back. Other stuff we did.
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Speaker 4: And did the vetting process turn up the tattoo that
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Speaker 4: became so controversial here? No, the Reddit posts? Did that
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Speaker 4: turn up in the vetting process?
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Speaker 3: Mhm. The firm sent us a thing and it had
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Speaker 3: some of the pass but it didn't have all of them.
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Speaker 4: And what did you think about that? How did you
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Speaker 4: how did you think your way through the fact that
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Speaker 4: he had posted these things on social media?
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Speaker 3: I said, none of this well or should stop him
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Speaker 3: from becoming a US center.
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Speaker 1: How is that his real voice.
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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in I'm in a Nathan Fielder
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Speaker 2: skit with that, I can't believe these people are real.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, these these people, these guys. And what's interesting
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Speaker 2: is that these guys they put they posted themselves as
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Speaker 2: like outsiders of the d n C. I mean, these guys,
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Speaker 2: these guys are the elite of the elite. He would
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Speaker 2: to Yale and he's, you know, he's upper class and
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Speaker 2: he's he is a Bernie Sanders elitist, which so these
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Speaker 2: people are, and you know he's you know, they didn't
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Speaker 2: vet his tattoo, and they go and the funniest thing there,
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Speaker 2: what about the Reddit posts? And not all of them? Okay,
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Speaker 2: which ones was one? Was it the one where you
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Speaker 2: wish a purple heart recipient dead? Or women should take
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Speaker 2: responsibility for their own rapes? And so you know, they've
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Speaker 2: molded Platner to appear like every man working Joe, and
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Speaker 2: Platner himself is an elite. And so they also they
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Speaker 2: also found this guy Osbourne in Nebraska who was very
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Speaker 2: similar archaetype to what Platner is. He has tattoos, he's
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Speaker 2: a veteran, he was a union leader, and so they
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Speaker 2: have a very specific mold in mind, and because they realize, oh,
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Speaker 2: you know, crap, we're losing white men and that's the
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Speaker 2: demographic that's going to kill us, because there still are
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Speaker 2: a lot of us out there. And so that they
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Speaker 2: find this guy who has this gruff sounding voice and
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Speaker 2: he's got the mustache and he's you know, he looks like,
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Speaker 2: you know, diabetes person, you know, in his in his prime.
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Speaker 2: And what they've done is focus grouped what they think
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Speaker 2: a white man is, right, instead of instead of finding
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Speaker 2: a normy white man, what they have is they put
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Speaker 2: this guy into kind of the brundle fly transporter pod
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Speaker 2: and what they what they come out with is who
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Speaker 2: they think white working men are and who the Democratic
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Speaker 2: Party in our media have been portraying white men for
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Speaker 2: the last ten to fifteen years as a hazard, the
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Speaker 2: veterans of stupid wars who are also white supremacists. Also
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Speaker 2: toxic masculinity, which involves sexual assault, abuse of women. This
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Speaker 2: is the art, This is the prototype of what the media,
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Speaker 2: the Democratic Party thinks will take it. We want this, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: they're there. They genuinely believe plant is going to relate nationally,
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Speaker 2: not just in Maine, because again he has tattoos, and
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Speaker 2: he's a toxic masculine man with you know, abuse allegations,
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Speaker 2: and he's a rapist, and he's also a white supremacist
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Speaker 2: with the apparently right. That's who they think white men are.
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Speaker 2: That's who they telling us white men are for the
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Speaker 2: last ten or so years. And so, you know, I
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Speaker 2: saw this comment where says they fundamentally cannot win on
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Speaker 2: their ideas. Even after the twenty twenty four election, they
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Speaker 2: didn't They didn't even move an inch on gender issues.
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Speaker 2: They didn't make an inch on immigration, and so if
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Speaker 2: you're not going to change your issues, you have to
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Speaker 2: prepackage your candidates. So again you get this rough white
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Speaker 2: guy who can shoot and curse and he eats meat
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Speaker 2: on camera. And you know, this is kind of also
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Speaker 2: the Tim Waltz phenomenon right where they picked Tim Waltz
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Speaker 2: and they call him coach and he's out there it's
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Speaker 2: camouflage and he can change an air filter on a car.
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Speaker 2: And then it turns out the guy's jazz hands. Elmer
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Speaker 2: Fudd who almost kills a guy with a shotgun standing
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Speaker 2: two is six, right, And that's what this is. And
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Speaker 2: it's very similar to also what they're doing with Tolerico
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Speaker 2: in Texas is we need, you know, a good old
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Speaker 2: boy who is you know, religious, and he's peers the
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Speaker 2: driven snow and what you have there is again one
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Speaker 2: of the most cynical attempts at running a candidate that
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Speaker 2: I've ever seen. Tall Rico was a politician. Then he
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Speaker 2: goes to seminary like three years after he's already been
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Speaker 2: in office. And I've said, the reason he's done this
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Speaker 2: is so he can reach more voters in churches. That's
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Speaker 2: the only reason he would.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty cynical.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's extremely cynical. But that's to me
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Speaker 2: what's going on down there as well.
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Speaker 1: So what about the just fakery around Plattner's life, the
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Speaker 1: fact that his mom is his only oyster farm client,
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Speaker 1: the fact that his parents bought in my house. I mean,
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Speaker 1: do Democrats really just not care about any of this?
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Speaker 1: Is it like the communist Bernie Sanders having three houses?
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Speaker 1: Who cares?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that when Mam Donnie won in New York,
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Speaker 2: this was the embrace. You know, Mam Donnie is the
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Speaker 2: guy that Barack Obama always wish he could be publicly right,
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Speaker 2: Obama kind of had to hide his Marxist bona fides
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Speaker 2: and Mam Donnie basically runs on Champagne Marxism during his campaign.
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Speaker 2: You know, he got married, and he could have had
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Speaker 2: like a small venue if he really was this kind
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Speaker 2: of high sparrow act that Bernie Sanders does. He could
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Speaker 2: have had like a small wedding in a brooklyn Borough
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Speaker 2: and had a few people there and say, hey, well,
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to spend a ton of money. No,
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Speaker 2: what does he do? He flies a private jet back
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Speaker 2: to Uganda where his parents live, and obviously his father
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Speaker 2: was a famous professor, his mother is one of the
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Speaker 2: most famous filmmakers internationally in the world. And they had
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Speaker 2: this blowout wedding at their compound in Uganda, complete with
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Speaker 2: armed security guards with AK forty seven's And he's a
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Speaker 2: guy your face, you know, And so it's not the
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Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders poor guy act anymore. They really are embracing
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Speaker 2: this kind of Champagne Nepo Marxism and they're waving their
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Speaker 2: flag proudly with it. And so my thing with Platner
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Speaker 2: is you just have to tell the truth about the
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Speaker 2: guy and let him, you know, tell people, how did
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Speaker 2: you change all of this wait a minute, you're not
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Speaker 2: really an oyster farmer. You only you know far oisters
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Speaker 2: for your mother who gave you a house. And this
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Speaker 2: is a guy who piled around in Washington, d C.
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Speaker 2: Prior to putting on this facade. And another example of
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Speaker 2: this is Alexandria Casio Cortez. People always hit her for
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Speaker 2: being a bartender. Well she's not. She went she went
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Speaker 2: to Boston and she interned for Ted Kennedy, right, and
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Speaker 2: then you know, she moves back to New York and
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Speaker 2: she puts on this activist front and it's probably going
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Speaker 2: to lead to a presidential campaign. And so this is
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Speaker 2: just them waving this out in the open. They don't
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Speaker 2: care anymore. And the Bernie wing has a message stranglehold
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Speaker 2: on that party.
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Speaker 1: What about the me too stuff? And you know, before
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Speaker 1: we actually even get to Platner, there's a second former
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Speaker 1: Capital staffer has confirmed a past romantic relationship with James
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Speaker 1: tell Rico. Like I thought, dating staffers was completely unacceptable,
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Speaker 1: and a bunch of guys got fired for that kind
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Speaker 1: of thing during Meat Too. And then of course you
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Speaker 1: have the Platinum story that The Wall the New York
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Speaker 1: Times really tried to wash for him. And there's a
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Speaker 1: story in the Free Press today with more details about it,
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Speaker 1: just how much he lied about and more texts from
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Speaker 1: Lindsay Feffeld that we're already out and she had produced
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Speaker 1: them for the New York Times and they never ran
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Speaker 1: them or talked about it at all. So what do
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Speaker 1: the Democrats care about it at this point? If it's
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Speaker 1: not you know, his actual working class background, and they
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Speaker 1: don't care that he has a Nazi tattoo, and they
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Speaker 1: don't care about the me too stuff, What does actually matter?
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Speaker 2: A power? And that was on that was demonstrated with
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Speaker 2: the John Fetterman campaign. And I've compared both of these
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Speaker 2: instances where you know, we're going to run a guy
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Speaker 2: who is a stroke victim, who wasn't campaigning for months
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Speaker 2: while they prop his you know, camera thurs leble wife
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Speaker 2: up and you know they said, don't even ask questions.
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Speaker 2: You saw when Dasha Burns interviewed him him, Kara Swisher
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Speaker 2: went on a cry bully tirade against her because it
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Speaker 2: was just about capturing the Senate And there were no
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Speaker 2: videos ever a Fetterman on the campaign trail. And there
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Speaker 2: are rumors that I've I've heard from people Slash sources
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Speaker 2: that journalists covering the Feederman campaign were told not to
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Speaker 2: videotape him or use the record device on their phone
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Speaker 2: by the campaign, and journalists complied with that, and because
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Speaker 2: you know, of course he did. Yeah, and so Fetterman wins,
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Speaker 2: you know, they get him across the finish line, and
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Speaker 2: then it's we can control this guy. You know. He
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Speaker 2: goes off to Walter Reid and Alex Gentilsen, who formerly
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Speaker 2: Harry Reid's lead operative. He kind of takes over that
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Speaker 2: role as acting senator. And so their attitude is if
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Speaker 2: we can, if we can get Federman elected, we can
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Speaker 2: get anybody elected. And I'm more bullish on Plantner than
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Speaker 2: a lot of people are. Susan Collins is seventy three
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Speaker 2: years old. She doesn't look great, she doesn't talks, and
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Speaker 2: that might yet the voters might just go, she's too
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Speaker 2: old to serve. Here, here's a younger, you know, healthier look,
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Speaker 2: human heat and grand Plantner, and that might be all
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Speaker 2: all she wrote.
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Speaker 1: Right, Although Susan Collins has been traditionally very hard to beat.
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Speaker 1: So if there is anyone that can take that can
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Speaker 1: win this and can take him out, it's going to
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Speaker 1: be her, but I agree with you not to take
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Speaker 1: him too lightly. I think a lot of people are
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Speaker 1: thinking it's a done deal. I did the same thing
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Speaker 1: tall Rico less so like I think he's got a
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Speaker 1: much tougher road in Texas. But you just never know
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Speaker 1: on an off year election, if the president is unpopular,
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Speaker 1: if people are voting against the president and the opposition
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Speaker 1: party is obviously more motivated to do that, you just
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Speaker 1: don't know what will happen. And so I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I think that taking the Platners and the tall Ricos
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Speaker 1: of the world seriously is important. I hope Republicans do that.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to see Republican strategy right now, and I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure where they're going to go with this.
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Speaker 2: Maybe always right, we're praying now Talla Rica's the one
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Speaker 2: out here saying no, no, no, I'm the one praying yeah.
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Speaker 2: You know, demographics are changing, and so people look at
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Speaker 2: it and go, well, there's no way this guy can
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Speaker 2: win in Texas well when you import one third of
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Speaker 2: the population from California because of COVID. Yeah, and you
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Speaker 2: see every city in Texas is going blue even for it.
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Speaker 2: We're Dallas now is skewed blue. With a Democratic mayor,
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Speaker 2: is the question becomes, you know, Texas has one of
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Speaker 2: the largest, if not the largest, rural populations in the country,
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Speaker 2: and is it still enough of those people that can
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Speaker 2: overcome you know, blue cities like Austin or San Antonio,
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Speaker 2: or Houston or Dallas, which are all basically Democrat run enclaves.
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Speaker 1: It's just so bizarre that those people would move to
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Speaker 1: Texas and be like, you know what we should do,
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Speaker 1: get more of what we just left. You know, I
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Speaker 1: know what happens. I mean, but look, Florida's sort of
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Speaker 1: the anomaly here where Florida got redder as people moved here,
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Speaker 1: and I don't get why that isn't the case everywhere.
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Speaker 2: I've talked about this book a lot. It's called The
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Speaker 2: Colorado Blue and it lays out exactly how Colorado went
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Speaker 2: from a red state. You know, in the nineties they
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Speaker 2: had a Republican governamed Bill Owens who almost ran for president,
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Speaker 2: that's how successful he was, to Colorado is now you know,
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Speaker 2: a solid blue state in ways that Portland and Seattle are,
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Speaker 2: and it's literally probably the bluest state in the middle.
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Speaker 2: That's the only blue state in the middle of the country.
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Speaker 2: Say for Minnesota, and it documents exactly how it became
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Speaker 2: this far left, you know state, which is you again,
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Speaker 2: you imported a lot of the California population as well
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Speaker 2: as New Mexico and others into cities like Denver, and
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Speaker 2: the population in Denver has grown such that it overtakes
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Speaker 2: the rural areas like you know, Pueblo. And interesting about
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Speaker 2: Colorado is it has the bluest city in the country
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Speaker 2: in Boulder, Colorado, and then it has Colorado Springs, which
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Speaker 2: is like the reddest, most religious city in the country.
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Speaker 2: And that's kind of just what happens. They moved from
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Speaker 2: pl to place and they overtake politically, they overtake what
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Speaker 2: whatever opposition is in their way, and they make it.
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Speaker 2: There is another thing that does that as a virus.
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Speaker 1: Is Colorado Spring still the reddest place in the country.
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Speaker 2: It might. I don't know. I haven't been there in years,
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Speaker 2: but that's that's what it was famous for.
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Speaker 1: So I worked on originally the Peak Corps campaign and
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Speaker 1: Colorado Springs in two thousand and four. It was super
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Speaker 1: super red, but I was there like two years ago
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Speaker 1: and it did not seem that red anymore.
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Speaker 2: So, Yeah, it went from like that's to give you
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Speaker 2: an idea of people who don't know. Colorado Spring was
15:35
Speaker 2: where mel Gibson premiered the passion of the Christ right
15:39
Speaker 2: right everywhere in the world he could have done that,
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Speaker 2: that's where he chose to do that. And so yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean I haven't been there in years, but you know,
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Speaker 2: demographics change, and yeah, inevitably, if you know, Denver is
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Speaker 2: now a stronghold of progressive policies that we see happening
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Speaker 2: in places like Seattle and Portland, and so it just
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Speaker 2: becomes a population bomb. And that's that's what you have
16:01
Speaker 2: to watch for in places like Texas and Florida. And
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Speaker 2: the Democratic Party plays the long game. They really do, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: because they had it once before, they had Ann Richards
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Speaker 2: as a governor and it wasn't so red. And then
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Speaker 2: again now these cities are growing and they're all growing blue.
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Speaker 1: All right, On that very negative note, we're going to
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Speaker 1: take a short break and come right back with.
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Speaker 1: violence in the UK. In North Belfast two days ago
16:51
Speaker 1: there was an attempted beheading on the street. The suspect
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Speaker 1: is named Hattie l Odd and originally they said he
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Speaker 1: was from some turned out he was from Sudan. And
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Speaker 1: including the loss of one eye. And the real story here,
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Speaker 1: obviously Stephen is Republicans pounce, Conservatives pounds, Donald Trump pounces,
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Speaker 1: and that's been the case, you know, with every kind
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Speaker 1: of story like this, which is don't pay attention to this.
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Speaker 1: It's only conservatives making this a story. But I've seen
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Speaker 1: footage from Belfast and they seem kind of mad.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now they're being called the right wing extremists
17:35
Speaker 2: for going out and protesting. And there's a little you know,
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Speaker 2: the white populations in Europe are more prone to writing
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Speaker 2: than we are over here. You know, we're busy, we
17:45
Speaker 2: have you know, jobs and watch and so they don't
17:49
Speaker 2: really have all of that stuff over there. So they
17:51
Speaker 2: love a good soccer riot as it goes. Yeah, I
17:55
Speaker 2: mean the reason the stuff resonates, and I think more
17:58
Speaker 2: so than it has in recent years. And I'm not
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Speaker 2: kind of one of these immigration doomers, right, I'm not.
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Speaker 2: I'm not Daniel day Lewis in gangs of New York
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Speaker 2: trying to kick out all of the Irish or anything.
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Speaker 2: But one of the but these the things about these
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Speaker 2: incidents is that the media doesn't understand why they resonate.
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Speaker 2: Is they the media chooses which cases to highlight and
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Speaker 2: which not to. And so when you have, you know,
18:27
Speaker 2: five years of race riots because of George Floyd, and
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Speaker 2: then you have victims who are not of that ethnicity
18:33
Speaker 2: or whatever it is, get ignored, that's where you get
18:36
Speaker 2: this kind of you know, nationalist backlash. And again, this
18:41
Speaker 2: is something like the political left doesn't understand as well
18:43
Speaker 2: as our media is race is everything to them. This was,
18:46
Speaker 2: you know, spoken in a meeting at the New York
18:48
Speaker 2: Times around the time of the Floyd riots. And they
18:51
Speaker 2: continue to make everything about race, mostly when most of
18:54
Speaker 2: us have kind of moved on. And so that's when
18:57
Speaker 2: you get these kind of visceral counter narratives. I said,
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Speaker 2: I'm not one of these guys where I'm bent on
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Speaker 2: highlighting every instance of crime by migrants. But I understand,
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Speaker 2: I understand why the murder of a Ukrainian girl on
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Speaker 2: a bus resonates, or Laken Riley resonates, or we had
19:14
Speaker 2: this woman in Chicago who was murdered by a Venezuelan national,
19:18
Speaker 2: and people see who gets the special treatment in protection
19:20
Speaker 2: from the media, and generally one political party or Isle
19:24
Speaker 2: or side with London. And so we saw Cure Starmer's
19:27
Speaker 2: reaction calling, you know, this incidant the death of Henry Novak,
19:31
Speaker 2: which the other.
19:33
Speaker 1: Story, right, this happened in England, and it was a
19:37
Speaker 1: white man was stabbed by a Sikh and when the
19:41
Speaker 1: police arrived, the Sikh told the police that there had
19:45
Speaker 1: been a racist incident and Henry Noak was on the
19:49
Speaker 1: ground saying I've been stabbed. In his video the policeman
19:53
Speaker 1: putting him in handcuffs and saying I have mate. Don't
19:56
Speaker 1: think you.
19:57
Speaker 2: Have mate, And that's now gone on to be.
19:59
Speaker 1: A meme, right, that's the whole thing.
20:02
Speaker 2: And yeah, and he died in custody, and so we
20:05
Speaker 2: saw Cure Starmer's reaction calling it a knife crime, right,
20:08
Speaker 2: and this guy who you know kneeled in solidarity into
20:11
Speaker 2: Parliament for George Floyd of you can imagine it. Yeah,
20:14
Speaker 2: but then now the UK has come out and declared
20:16
Speaker 2: that they will still allow you know, certain ethnicities to
20:19
Speaker 2: carry their ceremonial swords on them. So carry a gun
20:23
Speaker 2: in Britain. There's no concealed carry. You can't carry blades
20:26
Speaker 2: that are of a certain length. Oh but if I
20:28
Speaker 2: say that I have religious protections, Yeah, we're gonna let
20:31
Speaker 2: you walk down the street with a sword like you're
20:34
Speaker 2: going after Indiana Jones, right, And so that's how you
20:37
Speaker 2: get this. This is how you get this visceral backlash too.
20:41
Speaker 2: Why isn't the same kind of attention being paid here? Oh,
20:44
Speaker 2: because he's white. We saw this with this verdict in
20:47
Speaker 2: Texas yesterday, this high school kid who was stabbed and
20:51
Speaker 2: by a black youth who was convicted. And now they're
20:54
Speaker 2: all out in the streets with their selfie sticks and
20:56
Speaker 2: their cell phones creating content for TikTok to try to
20:59
Speaker 2: create riots. And so we see this stuff and it's
21:02
Speaker 2: kind of like, Okay, someone's getting their heads sought off
21:07
Speaker 2: in the middle of the street. That's something we've never
21:09
Speaker 2: seen for fifty years in Ireland. We've seen bombings and
21:12
Speaker 2: drunken fights and stuff like that, and then we see
21:15
Speaker 2: how the BBC puts serious incident in quotes and calls
21:18
Speaker 2: it a minor stabbing.
21:19
Speaker 1: Right right, let me just let me just say so,
21:21
Speaker 1: we don't have our own riots here. It's Northern Ireland.
21:25
Speaker 1: I think that.
21:26
Speaker 2: Is technically the UK, right, it.
21:28
Speaker 1: Is technically the UK. Yes, yes, yes, you can't be
21:32
Speaker 1: calling them Ireland. It's a whole thing over there.
21:35
Speaker 2: Okay, so I just about started an international right, Yes
21:39
Speaker 2: it is the UK. Apologies over there. But yeah. The
21:45
Speaker 2: thing about these incidents is is one way or another,
21:47
Speaker 2: they're all avoidable. Yeah, that's what That's what we have
21:50
Speaker 2: in common with you know, the Lake and Riley murder,
21:54
Speaker 2: and that's what we have in common Ukrainian girl on
21:56
Speaker 2: the bus and that's what you see in the UK.
21:59
Speaker 2: These are incidence. Is you know, it's fine if we
22:01
Speaker 2: have crime, and it's not fine. But when you again,
22:04
Speaker 2: when I talk about importing populations, you import one third
22:07
Speaker 2: of the population males of Syria. Yeah, and that becomes avoidable.
22:12
Speaker 2: And you know, I think you're going to see the
22:15
Speaker 2: pendulum swing over to like a Nigel Farash style candidate.
22:18
Speaker 2: The problem is is once they're there, they're increasingly impossible
22:21
Speaker 2: to leave. Yeah. Yeah, And you know when you have
22:25
Speaker 2: things like the Rotterdamn scandal and you hear about no
22:27
Speaker 2: go zones in the city of London, I mean that's
22:30
Speaker 2: probably coming to a district near you in Michigan here
22:33
Speaker 2: pretty soon, right.
22:34
Speaker 1: And in the media is fag if it doesn't exist already,
22:37
Speaker 1: right right.
22:38
Speaker 2: And the media's favorite trick is to, you know, simply
22:41
Speaker 2: tell you that if you notice this stuff, you're a
22:44
Speaker 2: racist or you're a white supremacist. And that eventually is
22:47
Speaker 2: going to fail, because that's one of Trump's biggest superpowers,
22:52
Speaker 2: was bringing on the Angel Moms or whatever. And you
22:55
Speaker 2: know that you don't have an explanation for why this
22:58
Speaker 2: has to happen. And the Democratic Party sitting on their
23:01
Speaker 2: hands during the State of the Union, during the Lake
23:04
Speaker 2: and Riley thing is the optics of that they can't
23:07
Speaker 2: get around, you know. And now we have possibly another one.
23:11
Speaker 2: A kid in Philly was shot a block from his
23:13
Speaker 2: house walking home after watching an NBA game. And now
23:17
Speaker 2: he's a Penn State student and now there's a vigil
23:19
Speaker 2: and what the media is calling protests coming for this stuff.
23:23
Speaker 2: And so the problem they have is they talk about
23:26
Speaker 2: wanting to reduce gun crime, and then once there's a shooting,
23:28
Speaker 2: you have a Soros DA who doesn't give them jail
23:31
Speaker 2: time exactly, and that's kind of the cycle that they're in.
23:35
Speaker 2: And so you are seeing a kind of a tide
23:38
Speaker 2: turn in Europe. And I don't live in the UK,
23:40
Speaker 2: so you know, I know people talk that they throw
23:42
Speaker 2: the words conquered around a lot, but we do know
23:45
Speaker 2: that there is a problem with that over there, and
23:48
Speaker 2: again people are starting to notice it in ways that
23:53
Speaker 2: are unfortunate for the government over there.
23:55
Speaker 1: The problem is, like you said, is that they can't
23:58
Speaker 1: be honest about what's happening. I mean, there's the Washington
24:00
Speaker 1: Post headline on this, a new wave of anti immigrant
24:03
Speaker 1: violence hits UK as riots convulse Belfast. Is it anti
24:08
Speaker 1: immigrant or is it anti you know, trying to chop
24:13
Speaker 1: off somebody's head in the middle of the street. I
24:15
Speaker 1: think it's really the second part. I'm an immigrant. I'm
24:18
Speaker 1: not anti immigrant, but I feel strongly that the immigrants.
24:23
Speaker 1: First of all, we need to have a system to
24:25
Speaker 1: allow immigration, and then second of all, the immigrants that
24:27
Speaker 1: we do allow and have to be living our values,
24:31
Speaker 1: and not beheading our neighbors is one of those values.
24:35
Speaker 1: So I don't see what's racist about it, and I
24:38
Speaker 1: don't see what's anti immigrant about it. I really do
24:41
Speaker 1: see it as anti violence, and you're not stopping the violence.
24:44
Speaker 1: And the Henry Noak story, what made it so galling
24:48
Speaker 1: is how the police just did not respond to him
24:51
Speaker 1: as a person because race is so caught up in
24:55
Speaker 1: their belief system. And now they're doing a lot of
24:58
Speaker 1: investigation into police work there, and there's a lot of
25:02
Speaker 1: international attention obviously on this. But this failure of policing,
25:07
Speaker 1: it's not about immigration, it's about leftism. It's about what
25:10
Speaker 1: they've allowed to happen on their watch. It's it's and
25:14
Speaker 1: so this fake belief that it's about race, it's really
25:18
Speaker 1: not unless you're saying the police are anti white and
25:22
Speaker 1: that's the racial part here.
25:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have this guy up in Michigan, I'll say
25:28
Speaker 2: d running for I believe it's a senator. Yeah, and
25:31
Speaker 2: you know, he was just interviewed by Kaitlyn Collins about
25:33
Speaker 2: he's deleting old you know, or his campaign rather's deleting
25:36
Speaker 2: social media posts, about defunding the police, and so Caitlyn
25:40
Speaker 2: Collins has him on I think this was just last
25:42
Speaker 2: night and says, you know, why are you deleting these posts? Right?
25:45
Speaker 2: Do you have you changed your mind on this?
25:47
Speaker 1: Right?
25:48
Speaker 2: And he gives a response where he clearly has not
25:50
Speaker 2: changed his mind. He just says, we need to reimagine
25:53
Speaker 2: public safety, need to out of police. We don't need
25:56
Speaker 2: every problem solved with someone holding a gun, as if
26:00
Speaker 2: that you walk into every situation like based. And so
26:07
Speaker 2: they haven't changed their mind on this, and that's what
26:09
Speaker 2: I mean about. They haven't changed their policies. We're just
26:11
Speaker 2: repackaging candidates, right, Yeah, and you I've talked about this
26:16
Speaker 2: in my podcast. Is that there really are you plant
26:19
Speaker 2: in tall Rico? Right? And now tall Rico's backtracking on
26:23
Speaker 2: trans or surgeries for gender assignment surgeries for trans children.
26:27
Speaker 2: He's saying I'm against that. No he's not. They elected
26:31
Speaker 2: if he says it. Yeah, And so you have these
26:34
Speaker 2: guys who are like defund the police and no, I've
26:36
Speaker 2: changed my mind on it. Well, no you haven't. Your
26:39
Speaker 2: talking points are the same. And it's really this is
26:42
Speaker 2: a really interesting electoral cycle because I've said this that
26:45
Speaker 2: it feels like speaking of workshopping candidates, that there's the
26:49
Speaker 2: majority of the Democratic Party. You're running two types of candidates,
26:52
Speaker 2: the hectoring sister in law like Mallory or the Islamic
26:57
Speaker 2: mail because they don't really have any more you know, demographics,
27:01
Speaker 2: and every time they try, you get a tall awreker,
27:03
Speaker 2: you get a grand planner. And so they haven't changed
27:07
Speaker 2: their philosophies, and so what you have to do is
27:10
Speaker 2: change the talking points. And that's why you know when
27:14
Speaker 2: everyone says woke is dead and no, no, it's not.
27:17
Speaker 2: Yeah close. Like the second they gained power again, we're
27:21
Speaker 2: getting all of those DEI departments welcoming back because that's
27:25
Speaker 2: just who they are. They can't change. Now. Maybe it takes,
27:29
Speaker 2: you know, a twenty twenty eight loss again for them
27:32
Speaker 2: to back off some of this insanity, but right now
27:35
Speaker 2: they're still going full speed ahead. It's also just real fast.
27:38
Speaker 2: Why I maintained they didn't release that autopsy right because
27:43
Speaker 2: the autopsy was going to reflect negatively on Kamala Harris
27:47
Speaker 2: and they can't throw her overboard. Everyone wonders why she's
27:51
Speaker 2: still the polling favorite, and I said, because she is
27:53
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party. She is for the most part a
27:57
Speaker 2: dei higher and that's an open secret, not being controversial.
28:02
Speaker 2: She is a black woman, and she's a historical figure,
28:05
Speaker 2: the first you know, African, American, Indian, Pacific Islander, Asian,
28:10
Speaker 2: whatever she is to yeah, vice president and that's why,
28:13
Speaker 2: you know, people, you know, I don't think she's gonna
28:16
Speaker 2: be the nominee, but that's why she's still polling up there.
28:19
Speaker 2: And so they haven't moved on from ideas, and so
28:22
Speaker 2: they again they have to repackage their.
28:23
Speaker 1: Candidates, and they're going to repackage it and move it leftward.
28:27
Speaker 1: Woke is definitely not over. It's not even really on pause.
28:30
Speaker 1: It's just a little quieter for now.
28:33
Speaker 2: La Meyrial race. You know, they're running you know, Karen
28:36
Speaker 2: Bass is like a Cuban gorilla supporter fighter that city
28:41
Speaker 2: said she's not left enough for us, and now they're
28:43
Speaker 2: going with the woman who you know, exploded her wealth
28:47
Speaker 2: on homeless nonprofits. So yeah, good luck there.
28:51
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a short break and we'll
28:53
Speaker 1: kind of come back back with one more segment of
28:56
Speaker 1: Normally with guest co hosts Stephen Miller, and this will
28:58
Speaker 1: be an optimistic one because why not, why not be
29:02
Speaker 1: right back. We are back on normally, where Mary Katherine
29:08
Speaker 1: Ham is on vacation and Stephen Miller red Stee's from
29:12
Speaker 1: X is doing a phenomenal job filling in for her,
29:15
Speaker 1: even though I said that he would not fill her shoes.
29:18
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I feel.
29:19
Speaker 2: Like you're hanging in much like myself who I was.
29:21
Speaker 2: I was off from my podcast and writing this week.
29:24
Speaker 2: I was still kind of on Twitter, and so I
29:26
Speaker 2: still see her, you know, I see her on the
29:29
Speaker 2: Twitter stage.
29:30
Speaker 1: She's like on vacation, but is she really on vacation.
29:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, people like us are just wired different. We don't
29:35
Speaker 2: ever really log off.
29:37
Speaker 1: It's actually a bad wiring. I wish I didn't it
29:40
Speaker 1: wasn't like that.
29:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's having some fun with the happy Europeans too.
29:44
Speaker 1: So that's right, that's right.
29:45
Speaker 2: So they're part of the country right now.
29:49
Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like she would love this story.
29:52
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have to do it some justice. But basically,
29:55
Speaker 1: a bunch of Europeans are here for the World Cup
29:57
Speaker 1: and a few of them have really captured the imagination
30:01
Speaker 1: of X. One of them is Freddie la seven. He's
30:04
Speaker 1: been tweeting out his adventures through the southern part of
30:09
Speaker 1: the US, and it's stuff like he went to BUCkies
30:12
Speaker 1: and he had an amazing time and everything he sees
30:15
Speaker 1: is like huge and awesome and he's having a real
30:19
Speaker 1: great time.
30:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's now getting tweeted up by jj Watt.
30:25
Speaker 1: Oh I saw that JJ Watt invited him to his house.
30:28
Speaker 2: Oh that's good. JJ Watt's not a big personal fan
30:30
Speaker 2: of mine. No, we had a little bit of a
30:33
Speaker 2: tiff that went so viral that members of my hockey
30:35
Speaker 2: team saw it. Oh yeah, I've made front of him
30:39
Speaker 2: wearing ninety nine in beer League hockey because ninety nine
30:42
Speaker 2: was his football number. And so the thing is, you
30:45
Speaker 2: don't wear ninety nine in Beer League. You just don't
30:47
Speaker 2: do it. It's a thing with Prenson. So I kind
30:50
Speaker 2: of I kind of joshed him a bit on it,
30:53
Speaker 2: and he replied to me and threatened to fight me.
30:55
Speaker 1: Wow, do you guys mean in a parking lot?
31:02
Speaker 2: So I kind of, you know, as people, and then
31:05
Speaker 2: I fired back with some choresy clips and stuff like that,
31:07
Speaker 2: and then I got some pals and I got Jarvis
31:09
Speaker 2: in on the act. And because it's a it's a
31:11
Speaker 2: whole thing there's all the thing like you don't wear
31:12
Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky's number, and I guarantee his team did that
31:15
Speaker 2: to him on purpose, Right, Hey, you're gonna wear ninety nine.
31:18
Speaker 2: And so I think my only stance on that is,
31:21
Speaker 2: I think I could take him on ice caps. I
31:25
Speaker 2: think I think I could put a hip check on
31:28
Speaker 2: him at least.
31:29
Speaker 1: Now that we've gone through some of Redsteez's old grudges,
31:32
Speaker 1: let's talk about happy Europeans.
31:34
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah. This guy's his name's Freddy and he's
31:38
Speaker 2: I believe he's from Germany and he's just going around.
31:40
Speaker 2: He's he's doing LMAO at this at the BUCkies, and
31:44
Speaker 2: he's going to Chili's and he's getting all of these
31:46
Speaker 2: people like inviting him to do stuff. And it's reminiscent
31:49
Speaker 2: of what Japanese Twitter was a few months ago, where
31:52
Speaker 2: there was this cross pollination of Japanese Twitter and American
31:55
Speaker 2: Twitter and they just discovered barbecue. So everyone's, you know,
31:58
Speaker 2: telling him how to go and make barbecue. And then
32:01
Speaker 2: we also have this Swedish influencer, Swedish Elsa Thora, and
32:07
Speaker 2: she discovered like twenty four hour breakfast.
32:09
Speaker 1: And ran stressing that that was a real big deal
32:12
Speaker 1: to her.
32:13
Speaker 2: And you know, I mentioned on Twitter, like I hope
32:15
Speaker 2: people are prepared that this is going to be both
32:18
Speaker 2: the best and worst thing about Twitter in the next
32:20
Speaker 2: three months with the World Cup. Why because you're going
32:24
Speaker 2: to get you know, you're going to get some foreigners
32:26
Speaker 2: slamming Americans and our soccer teams not very good, and
32:29
Speaker 2: so we're going to fight. So we're going to fire
32:32
Speaker 2: back with you don't have air conditioning. You know, I'm
32:35
Speaker 2: trying to take the positive tact on this. So you know,
32:38
Speaker 2: I saw somebody on Twitter say, all of my friends
32:42
Speaker 2: are being nice to Europeans and it's a little unset
32:44
Speaker 2: ly right now, you know, And I told them, I said, well,
32:47
Speaker 2: the reason we're doing this is because we're going to
32:50
Speaker 2: give them knowledge of things, right, and they take it home.
32:53
Speaker 2: They're going to take it back to their country, and
32:55
Speaker 2: like I said, they're going to pollinate their country with
32:58
Speaker 2: the knowledge of air conditioners and BUCkies and twenty for
33:01
Speaker 2: our breakfasts and anti perspirants and you know, any any guys, yes,
33:08
Speaker 2: any guy who takes free on back to the UK
33:11
Speaker 2: is going to become a king, okay, And so that's
33:15
Speaker 2: I kind of think that that's why we're we're doing this.
33:17
Speaker 2: You know, we're welcoming in. We're hey, we are really
33:20
Speaker 2: generous people, right, you know, we're we're a generous culture.
33:24
Speaker 2: And you know, as we talk about immigration, we have
33:27
Speaker 2: very long fews in this country as people. But at
33:31
Speaker 2: the end of the day, we know it's attached to
33:33
Speaker 2: a really big bomb, right, and so we're welcoming them in. Hey,
33:36
Speaker 2: come on, enjoy, enjoy air condition, Enjoy spacious hotel rooms, right,
33:42
Speaker 2: enjoy like Airbnb. And then they're also going to see
33:46
Speaker 2: the state of the art stadiums like so far and
33:49
Speaker 2: you know, while they're not you know, one hundred and
33:51
Speaker 2: fifty thousand people like an Oasis concert, they're going to
33:55
Speaker 2: you know, they're going to see these stadiums and just
33:56
Speaker 2: be blown away by it.
33:57
Speaker 1: And so yeah, and why not why not share the
34:01
Speaker 1: best of our cultures? And you know, things like BUCkies
34:04
Speaker 1: for example, stuff we take completely for granted. It's not
34:07
Speaker 1: even like things that were like, oh you have to
34:09
Speaker 1: go see a BUCkies. Elsa Thora, the Swedish woman. She's
34:13
Speaker 1: tweeted currently flying over the mountains of Colorado with faster
34:17
Speaker 1: Wi Fi than I have at home, what are we
34:19
Speaker 1: doing wrong in Europe? The USA has completely radicalized me
34:22
Speaker 1: within forty eight hours, and I you know, I lived
34:26
Speaker 1: in Europe. There's a lot to like about Europe. They
34:29
Speaker 1: have a lot of things that could be better, and
34:31
Speaker 1: they refuse to make those things better because they see
34:34
Speaker 1: it as like American things, and it's like, get over it.
34:37
Speaker 1: Just take take the best parts of our culture and
34:41
Speaker 1: incorporate it into your own.
34:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, But instead they're taking the worst parts of our culture.
34:46
Speaker 2: Like France's banning smoking. Yeah, you know, say what you want.
34:50
Speaker 2: It's cool, Okay, I mean it's cool when you do it.
34:53
Speaker 2: It looks cool when kids do it.
34:56
Speaker 1: People without smoking is like, what do they even have
34:59
Speaker 1: at that point?
35:00
Speaker 2: Basically are just sitting outside for you know, seventy hours
35:03
Speaker 2: a week and doing nothing. Now, help little class of wine.
35:08
Speaker 2: But that'll get banned here soon too. Outdoor consumption of
35:10
Speaker 2: alcohol probably is going to get banned.
35:12
Speaker 4: Now.
35:13
Speaker 1: That's when they riot. That's when the white French people.
35:15
Speaker 2: Riot, yes, yes, or when the soccer team loses, right right,
35:20
Speaker 2: which I think frances picked a favorite in this whole thing.
35:23
Speaker 2: So yeah, we're nice for now, and then when our
35:26
Speaker 2: team loses, we're probably gonna get some shade thrown at us,
35:28
Speaker 2: and that's when we say get out.
35:30
Speaker 1: We're going to say we don't really care. This isn't
35:32
Speaker 1: our sport, but so glad you guys had fun.
35:35
Speaker 2: This is good. This is a time suck for us.
35:37
Speaker 2: All of our sports are over in summer except baseball,
35:40
Speaker 2: and nobody really watches baseball anymore.
35:42
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining me as my
35:44
Speaker 1: guest co host. I think you did a fantastic job.
35:47
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep Mary Catherine Ham, but you've been
35:50
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35:53
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35:57
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