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Chuck & Buck 1-8 Hour 2: Ryan Leaf, the future of CFB and is Sam Darnold playoff ready? · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: When you said, we want the ball and we're going
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Speaker 1: to score. What did our friend Mike Holmgren say to
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Speaker 1: you when you came off the field.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't tell if he was mad at me or
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Speaker 2: proud of me.
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Speaker 3: You know, it was like somewhere wait, but a true
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Speaker 3: story that when that happened, no one really knew on
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Speaker 3: the field, like you could kind of hear if might
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Speaker 3: have gotten picked up in the stadium, sort of like
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Speaker 3: it was like murmuring as they came back and I
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Speaker 3: came back to the sideline and he said something like
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Speaker 3: what did you just do?
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Speaker 4: You know?
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Speaker 5: It was like did something just happen out there?
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Speaker 2: Like because he's got the.
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Speaker 3: Headset on and it was freezing cold, and I was like,
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Speaker 3: you know, like what you know, Like there's no way
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Speaker 3: he'll ever find out what I just did? You know,
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Speaker 3: And clearly everyone at home new but in the moment,
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Speaker 3: and then you know, side note on that, don't regret
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Speaker 3: it at all, Like would do it again, just would
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Speaker 3: probably change the change the route or the decision or
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Speaker 3: the throw or whatever.
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Speaker 1: Oh god, he's never going to find out. That was
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Speaker 1: my favorite part of the story.
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Speaker 6: This game's not televising, I know, what I just did.
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Speaker 5: This won't even make a ripple.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, No one's gonna know.
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Speaker 1: That was Matt Hasselbeck with us yesterday. He's our new
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Speaker 1: playoffs insider. Yeah, that's right, playoffs analysts for the entire
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Speaker 1: postseason run for the Seahawks, however deep that might be.
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna, of course chat with him at least
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Speaker 1: one more time and hopefully several more times every Wednesday
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Speaker 1: at eight o'clock. So number eight at eight will be
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Speaker 1: a fixed year throughout the postseason, and yesterday was our
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Speaker 1: first installment.
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Speaker 2: We want to check it out.
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Speaker 1: here on this Thursday. Ashley, Buck and Chuck with you
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Speaker 1: here as we roll into our seven o'clock hour. In
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Speaker 1: a matter of a couple of minutes, we'll be chatting
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Speaker 1: with former Koog's quarterback, the legendary Ryan Leaf will join
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Speaker 1: us right here on the radio program to talk college football,
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Speaker 1: NFL football, Seahawks football.
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Speaker 5: You name it.
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Speaker 1: But first let's get through your US brewed corse light
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Speaker 1: Choose Chill headlines college football playoff rezumes. Tonight four thirty
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Speaker 1: is the kickoff Ole miss versus Miami will play for
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Speaker 1: one spot in the National Championship Game, and then tomorrow
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Speaker 1: night it will be Indiana and Oregon playing for the
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Speaker 1: second spot in the National Championship Game. Of course, U
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Speaker 1: dub continues its quarterback search now that.
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Speaker 2: They weren't planning on going on, and the name.
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Speaker 1: Bo Prabulah has come up as somebody that you dub
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Speaker 1: has chatted with.
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Speaker 2: Former quarterback. He's the guy at Penn State.
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Speaker 1: If you remember that kind of controversially transferred in the
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Speaker 1: midst of their playoff run y Yeah, because he was
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Speaker 1: backing up what's his name, a Yeah, Allard, And so
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Speaker 1: he transferred out of there to Missouri and I guess
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Speaker 1: he didn't like it in Missouri. So one year at
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Speaker 1: Missou and now he's in the transfer portal. Yeah, he's
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Speaker 1: in the transfer portal. Yeah, he's in the transfer portal,
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Speaker 1: and so U dub's chatting with him to possibly replace
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Speaker 1: Demon Williams Junior. After the craziness that has gone down
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Speaker 1: here the last forty eight hours, Seahawks are on by
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Speaker 1: this week, so that means they won't play until next week.
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Speaker 1: The NFL Wildcard playoffs will begin Saturday, I should say
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Speaker 1: at one point thirty with the Rams at Carolina.
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Speaker 2: More on that in a moment.
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Speaker 1: Dub can't measure up to the Purdue boiler Makers on
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Speaker 1: the hardwood last night, the number five team in the
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Speaker 1: country defeated the Huskies eighty one to seventy three. The
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Speaker 1: Dogs will next play against Ohio State Sunday at three o'clock.
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Speaker 2: The Kraken are absolutely on fire.
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Speaker 1: They'll try to continue that tonight against the Minnesota Wild
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Speaker 1: at seven o'clock. Right here on kjar and Trey Young
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Speaker 1: was traded yesterday by the Atlanta Hawks to the Washington Wizards.
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Speaker 1: Pretty much just a financial deal right there. All right,
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Speaker 1: let's talk some football. Joining us now on the program. Uh.
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Speaker 1: He is in the conversation for greatest quarterback in the
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Speaker 1: history of Washington State football.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 1: He's also doing the analysis this weekend on the Saturday
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Speaker 1: broadcast on Westwood One for the postseason matchup against the
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Speaker 1: Rams and Panthers.
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Speaker 7: Uh.
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Speaker 1: And he now joins us to talk all things football.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf is with us right here on Chuck and Buck.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Ryan, Good morning fellas.
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Speaker 7: How are we doing on Dalla West Coast.
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Speaker 1: We're doing great. How how have you been give us
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Speaker 1: an update. How's Ryan Leif doing these days?
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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm just trying to keep my keep my voice,
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Speaker 4: you know. Uh, you're a I did a pretty good
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Speaker 4: job this year and.
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Speaker 7: And uh see me to the lost my voice. I
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Speaker 7: was calling the STS championship game on Monday.
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Speaker 4: Night and it was a spectacular one. So trying to
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Speaker 4: get the voice back for my first playoff game ever.
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Speaker 4: So a lot of a lot of boxes being checked.
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Speaker 4: Pretty cool.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, te and honey, Tea and honey. That's that's usually
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Speaker 1: the remedy. Yeah. Well, you know, we got a lot
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Speaker 1: of things we want to ask you about, but we'll
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Speaker 1: go ahead and start with the game you're calling this Saturday,
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Speaker 1: the Rams and the Carolina Panthers. We were just discussing Carolina.
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Speaker 1: I think they're capable, Ryan, of pulling an upset. I
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Speaker 1: don't think they're capable of going on a tournament run
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Speaker 1: all the way to the Super Bowl. The problem here
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Speaker 1: is they're facing the Los Angeles Rams, who they've already
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Speaker 1: beaten once, so they're not going to sneak up on them.
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Speaker 1: The Rams maybe have a score to settle as well
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Speaker 1: as a playoff game to win. So what chance do
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Speaker 1: you give the Panthers as they head into this matchup
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Speaker 1: with the Rams on Saturday.
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Speaker 7: I give them a pretty good chance. I mean they just.
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Speaker 4: Beat them a few weeks ago at home. Yeah, so
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Speaker 4: you know, I think that that goes a long way. Also,
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Speaker 4: these games and Seattle Seaoff.
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Speaker 7: Fans should know this really well.
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Speaker 4: When you have had a down year in terms of
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Speaker 4: record but still win your division. These teams have done
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Speaker 4: really really well in Seattle. Of course, you as everybody
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Speaker 4: remembers the Marshawn Lynch earthquake earthquake game where they beat
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Speaker 4: New Orleans like, this is the team that hosts the game,
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Speaker 4: had a better chance and normally has the better chance
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Speaker 4: to win these football games. And and so I would
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Speaker 4: expect this to be a very competitive game. The biggest
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Speaker 4: thing that happened the year, you know, a few weeks ago,
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Speaker 4: was was Matthew Stafford turned it over and it's something
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Speaker 4: he hasn't done a lot of all year long. You
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Speaker 4: know a couple of interceptions that really were costly. So
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Speaker 4: they don't turn the ball over, you know, they most
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Speaker 4: likely will will have their way DeVante Adams being back,
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Speaker 4: But you know, I think playoff football is a much
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Speaker 4: different environment than anybody understands. They have the advantage there
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Speaker 4: simply because they have done it before and this is
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Speaker 4: the first time for a lot of these Carolina Panthers,
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Speaker 4: including Bryce Young.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Ryan, I hear what you're saying.
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Speaker 8: Man, I am curious when I mean, when you just
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Speaker 8: think about whether it's Carolina or Green Bay and I get,
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Speaker 8: you know, not necessarily over performing their expectations, but getting
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Speaker 8: in nonetheless, I mean, are you recognizing or seeing and
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Speaker 8: if so, why is it that this season seems so weird,
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Speaker 8: like unpredictables. I mean, just some of the top seeds
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Speaker 8: are maybe people that we didn't presume would be top
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Speaker 8: seeds coming into the season. So I'm just wondering, is
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Speaker 8: does it seem even in the playoffs, now that you've
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Speaker 8: got the top fourteen squads out there, does it seem
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Speaker 8: like it's unpredictable like the way that the regular season
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Speaker 8: kind of played out?
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Speaker 7: Well, I think that.
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Speaker 4: The playoff picture is really unclear. You know, there isn't
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Speaker 4: the teams that we've seen in the past, and then
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Speaker 4: you forget that the Philadelphia Eagles are defending world champions and.
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Speaker 7: They won their division and they ended up at eleven
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Speaker 7: and six so.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if there's a better team
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Speaker 4: in the NFC right now than the Philadelphia Eagles. They
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Speaker 4: have to be the favorite by by a long way.
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Speaker 4: And and so you know, if you're a betting man,
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Speaker 4: that's that that's the team you probably should be looking
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Speaker 4: at to to, you know, get back to the super Bowl.
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Speaker 4: The teams that are in its way I think are
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Speaker 4: the Seattle Seahawks and and the Los Angeles Rams. Those
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Speaker 4: are the two teams that I think that are in
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Speaker 4: her way and and it looks like Los Angeles if
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Speaker 4: they were to win, would would probably have to make
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Speaker 4: their way to Philly once again. So you know, we'll
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Speaker 4: we'll see how it all plays out. But I love
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Speaker 4: this playoff setup. I love this year with with everything
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Speaker 4: that's played out because we don't know. And I think
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Speaker 4: the biggest question mark is in the ASC with a
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Speaker 4: lot of these teams, you know, never having been in
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Speaker 4: this environment because it's been outside of the purview of.
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Speaker 7: The Kansas City Chiefs. What will Buffalo do?
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Speaker 4: Will Buffalo, with all their experience, go into Jacksonville, which
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Speaker 4: I think is the best playoff game of the weekend
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Speaker 4: and win, And if they do, everybody else better clutch
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Speaker 4: they're pearls, because that means the Buffalo Bills are the
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Speaker 4: prohibitive favorite I think to win the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 2: Kog's legend and strong of voice broadcaster.
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Speaker 1: Now Ryan Leaf is joining us here on Chucking Buck
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Speaker 1: this morning. He's calling the game between the Rams and
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Speaker 1: the Panthers. I gotta pull it a thread. Why, in
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Speaker 1: your opinion, Ryan Leif, are the Seahawks in your opinion,
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Speaker 1: not the favorite to win it all?
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Speaker 4: Well, just because they don't have the experience, you know,
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Speaker 4: that's that's the only thing that places them in a
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Speaker 4: very short, you know pile there. I mean, it's these
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Speaker 4: three teams.
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Speaker 7: And for whatever reason, they haven't been great at home
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Speaker 7: this year.
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Speaker 4: You know, so hopefield advantage is a big deal. But like,
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Speaker 4: they haven't been great at home. You know that you
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Speaker 4: got a couple of their losses there, you know, against
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Speaker 4: the Bucks and against the forty nine er at the
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Speaker 4: beginning they probably should have lost well it for sure
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Speaker 4: should have lost that game to the Rams on that
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Speaker 4: on that night game where everything went bonkers.
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Speaker 7: So you know, they haven't played incredibly well at home.
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Speaker 4: So it doesn't vote a lot of confidence with the
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Speaker 4: whole field advantage like it used to, you know, and
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Speaker 4: maybe that can turn around.
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Speaker 7: Maybe the Twelves and the way this team.
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Speaker 4: Performs behind the Twelves can change a little bit since
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Speaker 4: the legion of Boom years where the Twelves were just
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Speaker 4: a complete difference maker. Now, don't get me wrong, they
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Speaker 4: could go balkers and come out there in the divisional
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Speaker 4: round and make it a real, real advantage. And I
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Speaker 4: hope they do because I would love nothing more than
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Speaker 4: to see Sam Darnell participate in a Super Bowl, just
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Speaker 4: to you know, absolutely put it back in the face
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Speaker 4: of everybody who called them a bust and ran them
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Speaker 4: out of New York.
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Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, did you ever sneak away from
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Speaker 1: Pullman the c Seahawks games when you were in college?
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Speaker 1: Did you find a way to get over here to
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Speaker 1: watch them?
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Speaker 4: We were our bye week my year in ninety seven
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Speaker 4: was was in week two before in between UCLA and
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Speaker 4: USC and I went over and stayed with my friend
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Speaker 4: Bryce Erickson, who who was Dennis Erickson's son, and Dennis
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Speaker 4: was coaching the Seahawks at the time. Bryce that hosted
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Speaker 4: me on my recruiting trip to Miami, and so I
11:04
Speaker 4: went over there and we went to the game. I
11:08
Speaker 4: would expect in this day and age, the NFL will
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Speaker 4: call that a major tampering issue that I was staying
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Speaker 4: at the house of the head football coach, the Seattle
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Speaker 4: seat after the time as a perspective number one overall
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Speaker 4: draft pick, But it was a fun time.
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Speaker 7: I snuck over there.
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Speaker 4: Of course, got to watch Dennis and that team, and
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Speaker 4: then of course when I got to San Diego, you know,
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Speaker 4: played against them twice a year.
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Speaker 5: For three years. Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Back to just the Seahawks, I mean Sam Donald, I
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Speaker 8: like what you said there of the idea of him
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Speaker 8: getting to a Super Bowl, winning it and being able
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Speaker 8: to kind of shut up the the haters and those
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Speaker 8: that wanted to label them a bust. I mean, it
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Speaker 8: was true, he didn't didn't come out really hot, but
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Speaker 8: then again, who does when they start off their career
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Speaker 8: with the Jets, it seems.
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Speaker 7: So.
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Speaker 8: How are you feeling about just the way that Sam
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Speaker 8: Donald has played. He's been getting a lot of heat
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Speaker 8: from some people because of some of the turnovers here
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Speaker 8: and there, But I think that's a fine line because
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Speaker 8: he also is putting up some good numbers and doing
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Speaker 8: some damage downfield.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, if anybody's critical of him, I think I think
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Speaker 4: they are projecting whatever issues they have. That's a damn problem.
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Speaker 4: That's not a Sam Arnold problem. He's been exceptional. He's
12:17
Speaker 4: won fourteen games back to back years. He kid me
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Speaker 4: with two different teams. You know, whatever you're doing to
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Speaker 4: try to eliminate for giving him as flowers, then you're
12:27
Speaker 4: you're the problem. You know, you just simply are. You
12:30
Speaker 4: can say all the defense is great, the team is,
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Speaker 4: of course it is.
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Speaker 7: To win fourteen games in two years, your team better
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Speaker 7: be great in a lot of places.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't diminish what you are as a quarterback and
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Speaker 4: what you've been able to do. So I dislike so
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Speaker 4: much of that when I hear it from other people,
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Speaker 4: because he's been exceptional and he continued to work. I
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Speaker 4: know for a fact his time he's spent down in
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Speaker 4: southern California with Jordan Palmer over the last three off
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Speaker 4: seasons when he was trying to figure it out when
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Speaker 4: he got shuttled from New York into Carolina.
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Speaker 7: I just, you know, to continue to work.
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Speaker 4: It's something I preach and talk about when I go
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Speaker 4: talk to school all the time, is that you control
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Speaker 4: your attitude your behavior and your effort. That's it, and
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Speaker 4: that's exactly what. He hasn't listened to anything else. He
13:12
Speaker 4: hasn't tried to control anything else outside that purview. His
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Speaker 4: attitude has been great, his behavior has followed, and the
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Speaker 4: work ethic has been second to none.
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Speaker 2: Here here Ryan Lee with us here on Chucking Buck.
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Speaker 1: He'll be calling Rams Panthers for west Wood one right
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Speaker 1: here on KJAR this Saturday at one thirty. And speaking
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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks that you'll be analyzing for three and a
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Speaker 1: half hours this Saturday, is Matt Stafford your MVP?
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Speaker 4: Yes, by far oh far.
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Speaker 7: Drake May, Drake May.
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Speaker 4: Is that a great year? Don't get me wrong.
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Speaker 7: I mean it's exceptional.
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Speaker 4: And as much as you want to say wow, the
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Speaker 4: second year versus the guy in his seventeenth or whatever
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Speaker 4: it is that makes it more impressive because he's doing
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Speaker 4: it in a second year, I don't know. I think
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Speaker 4: it's you know, knowing how old my body is going
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Speaker 4: to be fifty years old and getting up and moving
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Speaker 4: around and being able to play a football game like
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Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford's been able to do it, throw forty six
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Speaker 4: touchdown passes. I mean, that's it's incredible what he's done
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Speaker 4: this year. So yeah, for me, he's the MVP. If
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Speaker 4: you want to make it CO MVPs this year, I'm.
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Speaker 7: Okay with it.
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Speaker 4: But I think it would be a derelic the duty
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Speaker 4: if if Matthew Stafford didn't walk away with at least
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Speaker 4: a share of the MVP for his performance this year.
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Speaker 5: Oh no, you got to choose one.
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Speaker 1: I mean they the Indianapolis Colts couldn't sit there and go,
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Speaker 1: we want Manning and Leaf with the number one pick.
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Speaker 5: He got to make a decision.
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Speaker 4: Ryan, Nope, you can go with both.
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Speaker 8: No, tell me what to do. You're not the Boston
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Speaker 8: meat up had a boy. Hey, real quick, I want
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Speaker 8: to go to college football. Who do you got winning
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Speaker 8: the national championship? And I don't think we can fix
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Speaker 8: it in just a couple of minutes the portal. But
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Speaker 8: what's your thoughts on the portal?
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Speaker 4: Well, we can make it easy this way. I didn't
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Speaker 4: follow college football this year. I don't like the products.
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Speaker 4: I think it's horrible what they've done.
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Speaker 7: I don't even know who's in the final four.
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Speaker 4: I know that jam you made it to the playoff,
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Speaker 4: which was I thought was pretty cool. But yeah, I
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Speaker 4: could care less, Yess, Championship Monday Night was the cream
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Speaker 4: of the crop of what you're gonna get for championship football.
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Speaker 4: And then I just followed the back to this year
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Speaker 4: because those are the games that I call.
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Speaker 7: And so next year we'll change.
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Speaker 4: Next year, IM gonna have to get a little bit
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Speaker 4: of a broader reach of everything because I'll be calling
15:23
Speaker 4: Pac twelve football and the new and large Pac twelve
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Speaker 4: all over the western.
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Speaker 7: Part of the country.
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Speaker 4: So I'm excited for that.
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Speaker 7: But yeah, I could care less with what and.
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Speaker 4: Who wins this championship because it's it's not college football.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what it.
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Speaker 2: Is what gets you back?
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Speaker 1: Then, what do they need to do to convince you
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Speaker 1: that college football is what you want it to be.
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Speaker 4: Well, I think they just have to do what's inevitable
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Speaker 4: and make it the National Collegiate Football League and break
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Speaker 4: it into two conferences of around eighteen to twenty two
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Speaker 4: teams and filter out the ones that can't cut it
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Speaker 4: and go back to a college football you know where.
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Speaker 4: Most likely my alma mautal land I suspect Washington will
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Speaker 4: probably land in the National Collegian Football League just because
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Speaker 4: of its brand and everything like that. Uh, and then
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Speaker 4: then you have a commissioner, you know, I would I
16:10
Speaker 4: would argue that that Nick Saban couldn't would probably be
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Speaker 4: the best possible for that. And they just become independents
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Speaker 4: from the mc doua a. They will have no say
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Speaker 4: over any of it anymore. It will be a private
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Speaker 4: run thing with a with a commissioner. And and uh,
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Speaker 4: I don't know how sustainable that is to be in
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Speaker 4: student athletes, but uh, I think that's the only way
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Speaker 4: you can fix.
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Speaker 1: It, all right, man? Uh, Well, hey, we appreciate your time.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we're always open for a great life in Pullman,
16:38
Speaker 1: Washington story. If you've got one for us to close
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Speaker 1: it out with you, you got anything that you want
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Speaker 1: to share, anything that is above the belt.
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Speaker 4: So I was, I was there this year four times
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Speaker 4: long games, and I wanted to go play golf. Yeah,
16:52
Speaker 4: And so I called up the Blue Ridge Golf Course
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Speaker 4: and I asked to get a tea time, and the
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Speaker 4: young man on the phone asked if I was an alumni.
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Speaker 7: And I said yes, And he said, because it's a
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Speaker 7: game weekend and the rates are higher if.
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Speaker 4: You're not an alumni. And I go, no, I'm an alumni,
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Speaker 4: and he goes, he goes, you have an alumni card,
17:11
Speaker 4: and I said, no, I don't have an alumni card.
17:13
Speaker 4: He goes, well, I can't. I can't charge you the
17:17
Speaker 4: alumni rate. Then you're gonna have to pay the full rate.
17:18
Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, okay, I guess that's uh. I
17:24
Speaker 4: suppose I could just bring my rosemol helmet in if
17:26
Speaker 4: that would work too.
17:29
Speaker 7: He had no idea. Who the hell I was.
17:30
Speaker 4: What I'm talking about. Fact is I never played golf
17:35
Speaker 4: that weekend.
17:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no proof out there that you ever went
17:39
Speaker 1: to Washington State.
17:40
Speaker 5: None.
17:40
Speaker 2: None.
17:44
Speaker 5: All right, man, we'll have.
17:45
Speaker 1: Fun this weekend. Thanks for joining us for a few minutes.
17:48
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it.
17:50
Speaker 7: Yeah, you back by le Saget. Easy enjoy the West.
17:52
Speaker 1: Coast, all right, Ryan Lee joining us from the East coast.
17:56
Speaker 1: It sounds like I'm sure he's already there in Carolina
17:59
Speaker 1: for the call of the game on Saturday. Yes, he
18:01
Speaker 1: will be on the call Ron Westwood one. We will
18:04
Speaker 1: be covering the games for you, so you will have
18:08
Speaker 1: one thirty Ryan Leaf calling the Panthers and the Los
18:11
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams, and we've got you covered throughout the course
18:15
Speaker 1: the entire weekend, So we appreciate him coming on. Seemed
18:19
Speaker 1: like a good guy to have on right now. I
18:21
Speaker 1: didn't know that he was that adamant. I knew that
18:24
Speaker 1: he was soured, and you understand some of the reasons
18:27
Speaker 1: why being a Washington State alum, I understand why every
18:30
Speaker 1: Washington State fan or alum is soured on the college
18:34
Speaker 1: football product. Right now, I didn't know it was to
18:36
Speaker 1: that extent, right that he just doesn't even care.
18:38
Speaker 8: Yeah, in the playoffs of JMU Yeah, okay, man, Okay.
18:44
Speaker 8: I mean, I guess there's a lot of people that
18:46
Speaker 8: are very upset about it.
18:48
Speaker 5: Huh. That seems extreme.
18:49
Speaker 1: It's interesting, though, what he brought up, because I wrote
18:54
Speaker 1: down on my notes for our rundown today, I put
18:57
Speaker 1: two different possible topics at seven thirty udub's QB search
19:02
Speaker 1: or minor league football, because we talked a little bit
19:06
Speaker 1: about it in our meeting, but he just brought it up,
19:08
Speaker 1: so now I have to talk about it. So he
19:12
Speaker 1: went as far as just giving it a title the
19:14
Speaker 1: National Collegiate Football League. He's already graduated this process to
19:20
Speaker 1: the NFL taking over, and so I do want to
19:24
Speaker 1: discuss that.
19:25
Speaker 2: Now we'll do it next.
19:26
Speaker 1: It's Chuck Buck and Ashley with you Sports Radio ninety
19:28
Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's got a little bit of time off because
19:32
Speaker 8: they basically just ran rough shot throughout the NFC, So.
19:36
Speaker 6: They don't they don't play this.
19:38
Speaker 2: Weekend, they don't play at all.
19:39
Speaker 8: This they win without playing, right basically, that's pretty exciting.
19:44
Speaker 5: That's how good this defense is.
19:45
Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't even have to step foot on a
19:47
Speaker 6: field and you still win.
19:48
Speaker 5: That's right. Shut out. They're gonna post a shutout this weekend. Yeah,
19:51
Speaker 5: it will give up a single yard.
19:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, but because they've earned the buy.
19:57
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's got a little extra free time on his hands,
19:59
Speaker 1: so he's going to join us.
20:01
Speaker 5: He wants to be a part of our life.
20:03
Speaker 1: So he'll be with us at eight o'clock tomorrow on
20:06
Speaker 1: the radio program on a Football Friday, twelve Man round
20:09
Speaker 1: Table comes your way at eight o'clock today, Hugh Millen
20:12
Speaker 1: and Greig Bell. We just had Ryan Leaf on the
20:15
Speaker 1: radio show and he's given up on college football. He's
20:18
Speaker 1: really taking it to that next level. He just doesn't
20:21
Speaker 1: like where it's gone and doesn't follow it, doesn't want
20:25
Speaker 1: to be a part of it, even though I mean,
20:27
Speaker 1: that was the clearly the greatest time of his professional career,
20:32
Speaker 1: right there was as a football player, whereas Day's in
20:36
Speaker 1: college football. But he's done with the product, and he
20:40
Speaker 1: even threw out there something that I've thrown out and
20:42
Speaker 1: reckless at breakfast. I do wonder if the NFL will
20:45
Speaker 1: take this thing over. I do wonder if it's just
20:47
Speaker 1: a matter of time once they continue to reduce this
20:51
Speaker 1: down where it feels like we're turning into two super conferences.
20:57
Speaker 1: Is that just put the product at the feet of
21:00
Speaker 1: the National Football League to take over. And yet he's
21:04
Speaker 1: attached a name to it, the National Collegiate Football League,
21:07
Speaker 1: and he's got a game plan. So maybe people are
21:10
Speaker 1: discussing it. Maybe he's in on conversations that I'm not
21:13
Speaker 1: aware of. Maybe we're closer to it than I even realize.
21:17
Speaker 1: And I do wonder if people would be okay with that.
21:22
Speaker 1: I mean, considering how difficult this thing seems to be
21:27
Speaker 1: to wrangle right now and how frustrated so many college
21:30
Speaker 1: football fans are. And I just found out earlier this
21:33
Speaker 1: week that there are like ten thousand Division one football player. Yeah,
21:39
Speaker 1: when Hannah Storm told me they are forty eight hundred
21:41
Speaker 1: in the transfer portal. I'm like, how many players are
21:44
Speaker 1: there in Division one college football? And I guess there's
21:47
Speaker 1: ten thousand that are in Division one college football. So
21:51
Speaker 1: if you did have let's say thirty two NFL teams,
21:57
Speaker 1: each had a minor league team and they put together
22:00
Speaker 1: league that way, and so you got what fifty guys
22:04
Speaker 1: to a roster, I mean you're gonna use about fifteen
22:07
Speaker 1: to sixteen hundred of the best players.
22:10
Speaker 2: From the ages eighteen to twenty two.
22:13
Speaker 1: Well, that leaves you eighty five hundred to fill out
22:16
Speaker 1: the rest of college football. What if college football went
22:20
Speaker 1: back to being college football and not just back to
22:23
Speaker 1: being college football strictly was a place where you were
22:26
Speaker 1: a student athlete and you had all the rules and
22:29
Speaker 1: you actually didn't overlook the people that were breaking those rules,
22:35
Speaker 1: and so you did. So it would give us potentially
22:37
Speaker 1: three products to watch. An NFL product, a minor league
22:41
Speaker 1: product that could play in the spring. I mean football's
22:44
Speaker 1: forever been looking for a spring product. So a minor
22:48
Speaker 1: league product that would be the Seahawks minor league team
22:52
Speaker 1: taking on the forty nine ers minor league football team.
22:54
Speaker 1: You could have an actual minor league, Spring League, and
22:58
Speaker 1: then you also had college football back to its pure form,
23:03
Speaker 1: with everybody being a student athlete following college football rules.
23:07
Speaker 1: You'd have eight eighty five hundred players to stockpile those teams,
23:12
Speaker 1: and there's no reason why they couldn't also continue their
23:17
Speaker 1: path to the National Football League. We're not saying if
23:20
Speaker 1: you go to college you can't be in the NFL.
23:22
Speaker 5: You can still get.
23:23
Speaker 1: There, you just have to get there in a different way.
23:25
Speaker 1: I mean, is that out of the question. I think
23:27
Speaker 1: that kind of sounds fun. I mean, I would rather
23:29
Speaker 1: keep college football and have it thrive and all, you know,
23:33
Speaker 1: and have the best players at the college football level,
23:36
Speaker 1: because that's what I grew up with, that's what I love,
23:38
Speaker 1: that's what I look forward to every fall. But if
23:41
Speaker 1: it did come to that, I don't think that's such
23:43
Speaker 1: a terrible idea.
23:45
Speaker 8: It would be like the minor leagues kind of. But
23:49
Speaker 8: you could basically go into the minor leagues as a
23:51
Speaker 8: high scorer like you can in baseball. Right, So it's
23:54
Speaker 8: like you would still have the opportunity for folks to
23:57
Speaker 8: that aren't good enough to be in that top fifteen hundred.
23:59
Speaker 8: Let's say that would be in the minor league version
24:01
Speaker 8: of the NFL, the highest I get whatever you call it,
24:06
Speaker 8: if it's college or not. They're not in college and
24:09
Speaker 8: so it's not but it's the best players that would
24:11
Speaker 8: be in college. Uh, you could still have that. You
24:14
Speaker 8: if you were Jeremiah Smith, where you're good enough out
24:17
Speaker 8: of high school that you're almost ready for the NFL,
24:20
Speaker 8: then maybe you have a stop at this.
24:22
Speaker 5: Type of a place.
24:23
Speaker 8: Otherwise it's it's it would probably end up being a
24:26
Speaker 8: lot like what the transfer portal is, where you have
24:29
Speaker 8: kids that are coming out and they go to a
24:30
Speaker 8: college and then when they're good enough to start for
24:33
Speaker 8: one of the better teams in college, then they transfer
24:36
Speaker 8: to one of those better teams.
24:37
Speaker 5: So maybe it would be end up being.
24:39
Speaker 1: No, you have NFL makes the rule, you can't. You
24:43
Speaker 1: have to we go back to the original rules. If
24:45
Speaker 1: you got you can go to Calle.
24:47
Speaker 2: Three, you have to stay for at least three years.
24:49
Speaker 5: Oh well yeah, okay, so.
24:52
Speaker 1: Going back to the old the old rules, going back
24:54
Speaker 1: to that's what I'm saying, Like, if you actually college
24:57
Speaker 1: football turned back into college football and and you can't
25:01
Speaker 1: transfer whenever you want, there is no transfer portal anymore.
25:04
Speaker 1: If you are good enough to get drafted into the
25:07
Speaker 1: minor leagues coming out of high school, then that's where
25:12
Speaker 1: you go, because that's where you can make professional level money.
25:17
Speaker 1: But the college ranks go back to being the college
25:20
Speaker 1: football that people you know, the purest form of it
25:24
Speaker 1: that people root for and long for, and you really
25:27
Speaker 1: never had, but that form could be held. And if
25:32
Speaker 1: you if you don't get drafted into the minor league,
25:36
Speaker 1: then you do have an alternative if you still want
25:38
Speaker 1: to play professional football. And it's also a reminder you
25:41
Speaker 1: might not be as good as you think you are,
25:43
Speaker 1: and so you might want to get a degree, and
25:46
Speaker 1: so you have three You have that avenue to go
25:49
Speaker 1: play college football. But if you're going to play college football,
25:52
Speaker 1: you got to go to class, You got to stay
25:54
Speaker 1: for three years before you can jump to the professional level,
25:57
Speaker 1: all of that stuff.
25:59
Speaker 5: In that case, I don't like it as much.
26:01
Speaker 8: I mean, if you have to go because one, I
26:03
Speaker 8: don't know if we're putting any of this genie back
26:04
Speaker 8: of the bottle, but I don't.
26:05
Speaker 5: Know if you could.
26:06
Speaker 8: I don't like the idea of if you have to
26:08
Speaker 8: choose at eighteen years old to then do something for
26:11
Speaker 8: three years for sure before you maybe get an opportunity
26:14
Speaker 8: or you're overlooked, because if you're not good enough to
26:17
Speaker 8: be drafted out of high school into that minor league system,
26:21
Speaker 8: then there's a good chance that you're just not getting
26:24
Speaker 8: the looks to be able to go from that college
26:27
Speaker 8: as after your junior year to the NFL. It's like
26:30
Speaker 8: almost like it would feel like the breeding ground is
26:32
Speaker 8: that minor league system. But if there was still something
26:35
Speaker 8: where it was like maybe not a year, but a
26:37
Speaker 8: couple of years you had to play and then you
26:38
Speaker 8: could go, you could get you could be sold. Basically,
26:41
Speaker 8: maybe the college get you get paid, you get a
26:45
Speaker 8: signing bonus by the Seahawks to go play for there,
26:47
Speaker 8: the Everett Seahawks or whatever it is, that's their minor
26:50
Speaker 8: league team, and you get to go up and play there,
26:53
Speaker 8: and then maybe then you get your The Seahawks are
26:56
Speaker 8: plucking guys off of their minor league system, I'd like
26:58
Speaker 8: to see it.
26:59
Speaker 1: Just can pluck their guys off of their own roster
27:01
Speaker 1: because they're professional football players. Yeah, you just can't go
27:04
Speaker 1: pluck somebody off of Washington State's roster because they're they're
27:08
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the system we have managers, that system
27:11
Speaker 1: we'd have now you have to stay in college for
27:13
Speaker 1: three years before you go to the NFL.
27:15
Speaker 2: It's not that crazy of a curveball.
27:18
Speaker 8: Which is I don't really like that part of college
27:21
Speaker 8: football where you have to stay till your junior year.
27:23
Speaker 8: I like the idea of being able to not necessarily
27:25
Speaker 8: go one and done. I want you to go to college.
27:28
Speaker 1: Different conversation, if you want to break that rule, I mean,
27:31
Speaker 1: because that's that still exists.
27:33
Speaker 2: That one's that one's exists right now. That's an NFL rule.
27:37
Speaker 8: Well, we're just talking about restructuring the college situation. And
27:40
Speaker 8: I'm like, I like the idea of just having some
27:43
Speaker 8: sort of minor league system, but the minor league system
27:46
Speaker 8: like what we have in baseball. If you took that structure,
27:50
Speaker 8: not with a bunch of college rules mixed into it.
27:54
Speaker 8: You know, college baseball has the same thing. If you
27:56
Speaker 8: go to junior college, you can come out, but if
27:57
Speaker 8: you go to a four year college, then you have
27:59
Speaker 8: to stay for three years. And so it's just I
28:01
Speaker 8: like the idea of less government kind of getting into
28:06
Speaker 8: the whole mix of the whole thing. But the idea
28:08
Speaker 8: of saying no we got, you could make it to
28:10
Speaker 8: where if you're going to pay these guys like their professionals,
28:13
Speaker 8: just making professionals. Let's not go through the charade of
28:16
Speaker 8: saying they're student athletes when most of them are not
28:18
Speaker 8: necessarily there for school.
28:20
Speaker 2: Well that's just it.
28:21
Speaker 1: Like the college presidents don't want to have to deal
28:23
Speaker 1: with all this. They prefer them being professor student athletes.
28:28
Speaker 1: And yet the athletes, the athletes are all about getting
28:33
Speaker 1: to money and to get to the professional ranks. So
28:36
Speaker 1: if you actually had a system where these guys are
28:40
Speaker 1: NFL players, these guys are also professional football players under
28:44
Speaker 1: the NFL umbrella, and then you still had college and
28:48
Speaker 1: you went back to the actual college rules that we
28:51
Speaker 1: thought we were living by for our entire lives prior
28:55
Speaker 1: to NIL, then that seems to me like there's enough
28:59
Speaker 1: talent out there that could be spread around that actually
29:03
Speaker 1: we could have three vibrant, living, successful entities out there.
29:08
Speaker 9: No, and I would agree with that, I think, especially
29:11
Speaker 9: because what we talked about yesterday off there just the
29:13
Speaker 9: idea of some players take a long time to develop, right,
29:16
Speaker 9: They take a couple of years to develop, So you're
29:18
Speaker 9: not necessarily having less or you're not going to have
29:22
Speaker 9: the massive star power that the minor league team is
29:26
Speaker 9: going to have, but you've still got that opportunity to
29:29
Speaker 9: watch stars build and grow, which is kind of what
29:32
Speaker 9: we used to have in college football, which was pretty
29:34
Speaker 9: fun because you didn't just have a freshman come in
29:36
Speaker 9: who lit things up and it was miraculous.
29:40
Speaker 6: I mean, that just didn't happen very often.
29:41
Speaker 9: So you probably wouldn't have that where a freshman's just
29:45
Speaker 9: going to come in and dominate at that level because.
29:47
Speaker 6: They would have been drafted.
29:48
Speaker 9: But you're going to get to watch the program grow,
29:50
Speaker 9: and you're going to have juniors and seniors who are
29:53
Speaker 9: going to be, you know, getting that star power and
29:56
Speaker 9: starting to get those looks out.
29:57
Speaker 2: I don't think there would be any difference.
29:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Jeremiah Smith was going to do as to Buckets,
30:01
Speaker 1: player's going to dominate no matter what.
30:03
Speaker 6: So but he would be in the minor league.
30:05
Speaker 2: He wouldn't be in the minor league.
30:07
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. You wouldn't have that in the
30:08
Speaker 6: college level.
30:09
Speaker 2: See why wouldn't you?
30:10
Speaker 6: Well, I think because if.
30:11
Speaker 5: You were a freshman.
30:13
Speaker 9: Yeah, if you're a freshman, he's dominating, You're drafted. I mean,
30:17
Speaker 9: if you were dominating out of high school, you would
30:18
Speaker 9: have been drafted.
30:19
Speaker 6: You're not, but that.
30:20
Speaker 1: Would be every single year. So there's always some that
30:23
Speaker 1: slipped through the crack.
30:24
Speaker 5: That's true, you know.
30:25
Speaker 1: And so I mean through that process, I mean you're
30:30
Speaker 1: also not facing the best sophomores, juniors, and seniors anymore
30:35
Speaker 1: because they're also in the So there's no reason why
30:37
Speaker 1: a freshman couldn't excel when he's not facing the best juniors, sophomores,
30:42
Speaker 1: and seniors either.
30:43
Speaker 4: Yeah.
30:43
Speaker 6: No, I get that.
30:45
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean for me as a college football fan,
30:48
Speaker 9: I like that idea. It makes it returns it to
30:51
Speaker 9: the classic college football. You get that loyalty again, you
30:54
Speaker 9: get that camaraderie again, which is what old school college
30:57
Speaker 9: football fans really like.
30:58
Speaker 1: And we actually get a spring league that people would
31:02
Speaker 1: would watch. I'm telling you right now, it'd be the
31:04
Speaker 1: second most popular thing in this town. Yeah, you know,
31:07
Speaker 1: the Tacoma Jackals or whatever, and they would wear you know,
31:13
Speaker 1: kind of like green uniforms with blue trim, right, you know,
31:16
Speaker 1: that sort of thing, and they played it in the spring.
31:18
Speaker 1: They've been looking for spring football forever and they would
31:23
Speaker 1: get paid and we don't have to worry about how
31:25
Speaker 1: much they because the NFL has contracts and rules and
31:28
Speaker 1: they make everybody abide by them. Right now, we can't
31:32
Speaker 1: get anybody to We make a rule that we think
31:34
Speaker 1: is going to fix it, and it just we find
31:36
Speaker 1: out later.
31:37
Speaker 5: I don't care what your rule is. I'm doing this right.
31:40
Speaker 6: I don't have to abide by your rules. I get
31:41
Speaker 6: to make my own.
31:42
Speaker 1: The NFL. Everybody's got to abide by the NFL rules.
31:45
Speaker 1: So if NFL ran this minor league system, fine, and
31:48
Speaker 1: then we could go back to the old college system
31:51
Speaker 1: and you just you don't have as good a players,
31:55
Speaker 1: but there should be good enough players.
31:57
Speaker 9: Yeah, and you'd have competitive games because they're all in
31:59
Speaker 9: the same level the brands.
32:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be all on the same level exactly,
32:03
Speaker 1: and all and the brands would still remain intact and
32:06
Speaker 1: everything else. I mean, I don't I don't think it's
32:08
Speaker 1: a terrible idea.
32:09
Speaker 9: I mean, my first choice didn't shut it down and
32:12
Speaker 9: say no way, there's there's no way that can happen.
32:14
Speaker 1: My first choice is to have the NFL and college
32:17
Speaker 1: football as I've always known it. Yes, please, but we're
32:19
Speaker 1: in this weird transitional period that a lot of people
32:23
Speaker 1: seem to hate. And so what if there were three
32:26
Speaker 1: different avenues? What if we had NFL, minor leagues and
32:30
Speaker 1: college football.
32:31
Speaker 5: I think it could work, Yeah, it could work.
32:35
Speaker 8: I just I think it knocks college football back a step.
32:38
Speaker 8: You know, it makes it, it makes it less sure.
32:40
Speaker 8: It's like the JV college football then to me there
32:43
Speaker 8: or because you basically add the minor leagues. I don't
32:45
Speaker 8: know if I would like it right off the bat,
32:47
Speaker 8: I just don't think I would.
32:48
Speaker 1: All right, Coming up next, h Sam Darnold. Is he
32:51
Speaker 1: ready to be a Super Bowl champion? Sports Radio ninety
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33:03
Speaker 1: up from eight to nine. And lookie, lookie who decided
33:06
Speaker 1: to just stroll into.
33:07
Speaker 5: The office here today? Look at that guy?
33:11
Speaker 2: Good morning?
33:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Greg Bell. Greg be here got up early,
33:19
Speaker 5: bout quarter off his bed.
33:20
Speaker 8: He's like, you know what, he's time for some Pt'm
33:23
Speaker 8: a jogged down to the studio.
33:24
Speaker 5: Enough with the pushups, let's go to the radio station.
33:28
Speaker 1: That so we got Greg, we got Hugh coming up
33:31
Speaker 1: from eight to nine. Plenty of Seahawks conversation. Yesterday at
33:34
Speaker 1: eight o'clock we had Matt Hasselbeck on the program. Looks
33:37
Speaker 1: like he's going to be joining us every Wednesday at
33:39
Speaker 1: eight o'clock through the playoffs, and yesterday was our maiden
33:44
Speaker 1: voyage with Matt Hasselbeck.
33:46
Speaker 5: If you want to.
33:47
Speaker 1: Check out the entire conversation, please do so on our
33:49
Speaker 1: podcast at ninety three three KJR dot com. I'll play
33:52
Speaker 1: a little bit of it for you because we asked
33:55
Speaker 1: him about Sam Darnold and whether or not, with this
33:58
Speaker 1: good of a roster, if he's ready to be a
34:00
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champ.
34:01
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so at all, And I think
34:04
Speaker 3: he's let's.
34:05
Speaker 2: Do that over that was that? That's not?
34:07
Speaker 6: What's that?
34:08
Speaker 2: Yeah?
34:09
Speaker 9: You asked him if with the thinking that the whole roster,
34:13
Speaker 9: is Sam Darnald going to get in the way all
34:15
Speaker 9: of them getting to the super Bowl?
34:16
Speaker 1: All right, let's do that again. Take two, Is Sam
34:19
Speaker 1: Donald Matt gonna get in the way of the Seahawks
34:22
Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl?
34:23
Speaker 4: No?
34:24
Speaker 5: I don't think so at all.
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Speaker 2: There we go, and that sounds better.
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Speaker 3: You know, he's got that reputation nationally where people doubt
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Speaker 3: him still, but no, I think his his body of
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Speaker 3: work if you look at last year and this year
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Speaker 3: and you sort of forget maybe his rookie year in
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Speaker 3: New York and you just look at the Like when
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Speaker 3: we studied film when I was playing, it was always
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Speaker 3: nameless faces, you know, so it would be like number
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Speaker 3: fourteen for Seattle. We're not putting a name with fit,
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Speaker 3: so you don't get it clouded. You know, Like a
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Speaker 3: lot of times when I'd be going up against the
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Speaker 3: defensive back in my career late in their career, you know,
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Speaker 3: Like I'll use Champ Bailey as an example. Champ Bailey
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Speaker 3: is one of the best I ever went against. But
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Speaker 3: when I was playing with Andrew Luck in the Indianapolis Colts,
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Speaker 3: we were playing them in the playoffs. Our whole game
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Speaker 3: plan was to double move twenty four. We're going at
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Speaker 3: twenty four. You know, he can't run with t Y Hilton,
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Speaker 3: he can't run with he can't you know, double move
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Speaker 3: with Reggie Wayne. Like that was the mindset that we had,
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Speaker 3: and that was the game plan going into that playoff game.
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Speaker 3: But we would never have said that, like, oh, We're
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Speaker 3: going to attack Champ Bailey Hall of Famer, Like it
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Speaker 3: just it feels weird. In a similar way, I think
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Speaker 3: people do that, you know, to Sam Donald, be like, oh,
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Speaker 3: Sam Donald, you know he's not you know, the big names.
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Speaker 3: We know he's not Lamar. You know, like he played
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Speaker 3: better football than Lamar this year. He played better football
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Speaker 3: than Patrick Mahomes, you know. So you know, I think
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Speaker 3: that's part of it. And I think like even this
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Speaker 3: last game, he didn't throw for two hundred yards, but
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Speaker 3: he also didn't turn the ball over. He put the
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Speaker 3: team in a position to win. He leaned on the defense,
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Speaker 3: and like I said earlier, he was incredibly efficient on
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Speaker 3: the third downs when those are unities were needed at
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Speaker 3: the end of the game.
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Speaker 1: Matt hasselback with US yesterday talking about Sam Donald. He
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Speaker 1: certainly is a bit of a topic of conversation the
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Speaker 1: national guys. Some are absolutely convinced, others continue to point
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Speaker 1: him out as the biggest question mark in the NFL
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Speaker 1: playoffs this year. Yeah, he has proving to do, but
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Speaker 1: I don't think that we have enough Sam Donald postseason
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Speaker 1: video to watch, film to watch to think that we're
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Speaker 1: going to put him in the category of some guy
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Speaker 1: that can't get it done. For goodness sake, he played
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Speaker 1: one postseason game, had a bad game, and I'm certainly
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Speaker 1: not going to write him all for that.
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Speaker 8: No, well, I would hope not. I mean, it is
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Speaker 8: what it is. Last year's postseason game wasn't good. Maybe
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Speaker 8: the final regular season game as well. But I mean
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Speaker 8: there's plenty of Hall of Fame caliber quarterbacks that didn't
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Speaker 8: have great first runs through the playoffs, and so I
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Speaker 8: think that a little bit of grace should be granted
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Speaker 8: to the guy. And then you can say whatever you want,
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Speaker 8: but the bottom line is fourteen wins is the most
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Speaker 8: ever for a Seahawks team. He did the same thing
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Speaker 8: last year with the Minnesota Vikings. He's playing good enough
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Speaker 8: quarterback that at this point in time, I think Vegas
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Speaker 8: probably has him as the odds on favorite, right, I mean,
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Speaker 8: I don't know for sure. Yeah, So I don't think
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Speaker 8: that most people are under the impression, even though there's
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Speaker 8: some that just can't get over.
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Speaker 5: And I get it. The first impression was a bust.
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Speaker 8: What you when he came out of college at twenty
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Speaker 8: years old or whatever he was and and failed with them. Fine,
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Speaker 8: But to think that you can't improve from twenty two
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Speaker 8: to twenty five or twenty six, you can't, and he
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Speaker 8: most certainly has.
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Speaker 5: And I think that the.
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Speaker 8: Most people I know the people inside the building, and
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Speaker 8: that's the people that matter. They trust in Sam Darnold.
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Speaker 5: You know he's gonna come on next. No, that guy
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Speaker 5: right over here, Yeah, that guy right there, the one
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Speaker 5: in studio.
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Speaker 7: With his.
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Speaker 1: One hour with our Seahawks Insider and also our QB one,
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Speaker 1: Hugh Millon. It's the twelfth Man Roundtable, Bye week edition
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Speaker 1: right here on Chuck and Buck Sports Radio ninety three
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Speaker 1: point three kJ RFM.