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01/09/2024 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Erika Kolenich, Patrick Morrisey, Mayor Danny Jones, Jeff Jenkins · The Dave Allen Show

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mentioned it. I've got at tourney General Patrick Morrissey coming up a little bit
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later on the show. But we're lucky today because we not only have one,
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we have two candidates for two for the price of one candidates in studio
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today. It's crowded field. But there is a name that you may not
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be aware of on the ballot. She's Erica Kalinitch and she is the Libertarian
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candadate for governor and she joins us now. Erica, good morning, welcome
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to the show. Good morning, thanks for having me. Did I do
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okay on the last name. This year you did it was perfect, perfect,
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perfect, And so for when I messed it up next time, I
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could say, well, I did it perfect once. It's Erica Cleinach.
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And we get into spelling that a little bit later on, because we want
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people able to find you on your website and social media. Give us a
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little bit of background on Erica Collinach. Sure. Well, I am from
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Buckhannon, West Virginia, where I live with my husband Carl. I am
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a lawyer. I have a firm that started in Buckchannan. We now have
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three offices in West Virginia, one in Clarksburg and one in Parkersburg. So
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I am a small business owner, like a lot of folks in West Virginia.
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This is my second time running for governor. I ran in twenty twenty.
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Although I'm not a politician, which I know a lot of people laugh
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at when I say I'm running for governor. But I'm not a politician.
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I just call myself a West Virginian and a small business owner. All right,
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So why do you want to be governor? Well, I want to
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be governor because I think West Virginia needs something different. It's time for something
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different. I think that we're not moving the needle in West Virginia. We're
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trying this same things over and over again, and I, like a lot
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of people in West Virginia, am frustrated. I'm frustrated with the two party
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system. I think that the Democrats and specifically the Republicans are just they're just
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trying the same things. They're just getting us in a circle of paying back
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their friends, trying the same ideas, making government bigger and bigger, and
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recycling the same things that aren't working. And we're not getting anywhere. If
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you look at the lists right, we continue to stay at the bottom.
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We're not making any headway, and it's time for something different. And I
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think I'm that something different. What do you make though of In the recent
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years, there's been all of these announcements that have come in about you know,
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down here, everybody talks about new core and some of the ones in
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the different areas of the state. I mean, there is some there's some
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growth going on in West Virginia. How would you how would you answer that,
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Sure, there's some growth going on in West Virginia. There's no question.
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And that's why I said, you know, we're we're moving the needle
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certainly, but we're not moving it significantly enough. And we're using this same
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playbook right the West Virginia playbook on economy has always been, let's give sweetheart
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deals to you know, big corporations and try to incentivize them to come to
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West Virginia. And practically speaking, that maybe moves the needle a tick,
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but it doesn't move the needle a whole lot. And who gets lost in
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that, well, small local businesses that are already here. We make it
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as difficult as possible for those businesses to operate. And what we don't do,
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and what West Virginia government has never done, is why don't we see
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what we can do to make it easier for those businesses to operate? And
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if we did that, we'd see the needle move an awful lot more than
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we do, and we don't ever try that. How does the process of
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how does it work? And becoming the libertarian part of the party candidate,
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I mean, how does it work? Because I know that you know,
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people understand the way the Democrats and Republican zoom, But how do you do
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it in the Libertarian party? Sure, well, in the Libertarian Party,
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we don't run a primary the way that the other two major parties do.
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We do nomination by a nominating convention. So we've already done that, and
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I've already received the nomination. So right now, for example, in the
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Republican Party or the Democratic Party, the question is who's going to be on
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the ballot in November of twenty twenty four, we don't have that question in
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the Libertarian Party. I'm going to be the candidate in November of twenty twenty
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four. So the Libertarians get together, they have a convention, and they
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decide who's the best candidate, who are we going to nominate? And they've
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selected me in that problem. So so you're the only one. I'm it,
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You're it. I'm proud to say that I'm the only person that we
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know for certain is going to be on the ballot in November of twenty twenty
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four. Very good way to look at it. So, whoever, you
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could also say, look whoever wins there, Because we know we've got at
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least one Democrat running in Steve Williams, the honey to mayor, we get
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several Republicans running. You could always say they're fighting it out to see who
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takes on me. That's right. Right, For those who don't know,
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give us the basic idea of the principles of the Libertarian Party. Sure,
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well, you know, in the Libertarian Party, we feel that minimal,
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minimal government intervention in your life is best. We think that you are the
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best person that knows how to run your life for you and your family.
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So anytime we can keep the government as small as possible and making limited decisions,
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we think that that's best. So we think that the government's limited role
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is to protect property and to protect life, and that's really it. So
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anytime we can have private charitable entities, for example, solving societal problems,
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we think that that's better than the government trying to do those things. You
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we're talking to Erica Kalenich, who is the Libertarian candidate for governor here in
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West Virginia. Now, I would think, and I mean this with all
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due respect, they getting elected as governor West Virginia as a libertarian. Some
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people might see it as a long shot. Oh sure, sure they do.
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And you know, I think a lot of that. You know,
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it's a step by step process, right, So step number one is getting
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your name out there, and step number two is convincing people to vote for
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you. But you know step number one is we're we're doing that right now,
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right We're letting people know that I'm out there. And step number two,
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I think the state of politics is making that happen for the Libertarian Party
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and for other third parties. If you listen to people talk, you know
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that people are frustrated with the two party system and you know that they're looking
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for something else. More and more people are unhappy with their two choices.
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People are unhappy with the state of the government. People are unhappy with the
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state of politics, and eventually those people are going to start looking for third
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choices. More than ever, people are saying, we're not happy with you
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know, coke versus PEPSI, which is really what Democrats versus were exactly exactly,
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and that's what we offer. And you know, every every election we
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hear you know, it's a it's a long shot, it's a long shot,
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but we're the only growing party in West Virginia. We're growing at a
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higher rate than the Republicans. We're certainly growing at a higher rate than the
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Democrats. So I would say that you know, now is the time to
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vote for a third party. Now is the time certainly to explore voting for
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a libertarian. I think it's possible. But Dave Allen Show on five,
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there, Erica, and that was because we've seen on the national level the
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majority of people have said when it comes to Trump Biden, Trump v Biden
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that they don't want either candidate. And I don't know if that's totally the
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case in West Virginia, but I do hear from a lot of people.
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They text this show and they look at the people that are running for for
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governor or Senate or whatever, and they kind of echo that and they say,
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look, I just want something different. So I guess you and your
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party are tapping tapping into that. We are and you know, not to
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not to call out any specific candidates, but we certainly have that here in
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West Virginia. I mean, if you look at who we have running,
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they're recycled versions of the same people who have run, and I think people
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get tired of that. And I think people get tired of politicians and candidates
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that have their donor money coming from the same sources, and they have the
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same special interests to pay back, and they have the same special agendas,
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and they really are looking for somebody different. They're looking for new and fresh
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ideas, new ways to solve problems, and libertarian solutions, my solutions to
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problems really offer a new and fresh perspective. So I'd say to people,
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even if you're maybe not really ready to go to the ballot box and say,
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hey, I'm going to do something super bold and vote for a libertarian,
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just check check me out, check other libertarian candidates out, look at
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what we're proposing in terms of a solution. I'm going to guess that you
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agree with me on at least sixty to seventy percent of what I say,
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which may mean that you should at least start considering voting for libertarian candidates.
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So just at least start opening your mind to the idea, and I'm gonna
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guess that you'll probably find that you land with a third party more than you
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might think, and that's the first step to change, you know. I
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always tell everybody, voting for somebody that you believe in is never a wasted
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vote, and it goes a lot further than voting for somebody just because you're
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really casting a vote so the other guy doesn't win. Boy, let you
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go. I don't normally take calls or text or anything like that to the
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Showcus quite frankly and our toxic environment turns to a gotcha type moment, But
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I'm gonna have one that I wanted to read to you, and it's not
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a gotcha moment or anything like that. Somebody just asked me to ask you,
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what do you plan to do for economic development in southern West Virginia.
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Sure, well, in southern West Virginia, the plan would be the same
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as it is for most of the rest of the state. What we have
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to do is we have to eliminate the regulations and the red tape that make
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it very difficult for businesses to operate. We are right in the I will
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say, the middle of the pack in terms of most states for business regulation,
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which means we're a heavily a fairly heavily regulated state in terms of industry.
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We need to cut back those regulations. Texas, for example, is
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one of the most least regulated states and they have one of the highest GDPs
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in the state. All we have to do is their businesses in the southern
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coal fields, right in the southern part of the state. We need to
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make it easier for those businesses to flourish. We need to stop taxing them
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so much, and we need to stop placing regulations on them that make it
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so difficult for them to operate, and as a natural consequence, they will
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have an easier time we're That's step number one. Where can people learn more
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about your campaign? People can learn learn more about my campaign because my last
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name is so tough by simply going to now is the Time wv dot com.
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That's my website. They can also find more about me on Facebook at
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Erica Kleenich for West Virginia, and that name is spelled k O L E
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n I c H. That's right, sir, Erica with a K in
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the middle. E r I ka Erica Kleenich. I appreciate you taking time
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und your schedule to be here, and since you are going to be on
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the ballot come November, then that means you get to come back. Thank
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is a crowded field for Governor of West Virginia, Patrick Morrissey has served the
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state as Attorney General for a couple of terms. Now he wants to take
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over the Governor's mansion and he joined us now. Mister a g Good morning,
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Happy new year, and welcome to the show. Happy new year,
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David. I hope you're having a good new year, and I'm glad to
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come in to talk about the race. And I know you're going to give
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me a chance to talk about our great outside council record as well. Yes,
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whatever you want, it is your time. I want to talk about
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the campaign for governor and then we'll kind of turn it over to you.
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The polls have shown that you lead in both popularity and in money raised.
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Why do you think the message of Patrick Morrissey is resonating so far? So
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even though it's early, so far so much with voters. Look, I
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think voters want to get a proven conservative with a record of getting big things
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done. And quite frankly, no one else running can come close to the
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record that we've had As Attorney General of the state. We were able to
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go after the federal le biason and win. You hear all these candidates talk
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about what they'll do to push back against the swamp. We've actually done it.
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We're one of the only people that can say we sued the federal government
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and we want time after time after time, and these cases really matter for
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West Virginia jobs and West Virginia values. So I think when start to look
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around and say who should be leading state government into the future, you want
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to look and see whether they're qualified, what their past experiences are. And
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that's where I think we have a huge advantage because you've got a couple people.
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They may be saying the right things, but they can't compete in terms
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of the record of getting big things done, the conservative nature of the cases,
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whether it's successfully defending Hope Scholarship, being out there in the arena litigating
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against men playing sports with women, which we think is reprehensible and unfair to
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women, helping to protect our jobs, whether winning the Waters United States Rule
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case, the famous West Virginia EPA case protecting a lot of coal jobs and
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the ancillary jobs related to coal here in the state. And then they think,
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Okay, now we have to go forward in your vision for the future.
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Who's going to be ready and they say, there's only one person who's
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hot to engage in all those fights. Who will you trust when Washington starts
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to come that for our state into the future. There is only one answer
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to that question. You know, we're talking with Attorney General Patrick Morrissey,
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who is a candidate for governor here in the state of West Virginia. When
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you're out Patrick, meeting with people and meeting the civic groups or Republican groups
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or anybody for that matter, what's the basic message that you give them.
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I mean, I know you've had the successes you talked about in the courts,
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but what's the basic message that you give them about what a governor Patrick
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Morrissey will look like. Absolutely so to me, West Virginia should be that
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shining state in the mountains, and we need to compete more effectively with other
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states that we toatch. And I think that's one of the core premises behind
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my candidacy that at the beginning, in the first one hundred days, we're
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going to do a review of every single tax, every single regulation, every
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single workforce rule, every single licensing provision, and we're going to stack West
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Virginia up against all the states that we tell and quite frankly, we're going
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to work with the legislature to choose the very best policies. And that's important
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because in order to move from forty eight to forty nine, fiftieth in the
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nation and a lot of these categories, to rise toward number one, you
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first have to win regionally, right, So we have to start defeating the
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Pennsylvania's, the Maryland, the Virginia's, the Kentucky's, the Ohios of the
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world before you start to get in the top five or ten from an economic
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perspective. So I think you lay that out and you talk to people about
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the importance of having competitive policies, and we're starting to see that with the
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legislature, but we can go so much further, and I'm excited to provide
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that leadership. I think people also want someone who they can trust in the
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big challenges ahead. Washington is going to keep coming after our way of life
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and our jobs, and we have to do something about that. I think
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they know that you need a proven conservative who can build these coalitions and knows
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how to stand up, not just to fight, but to win these fights.
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Now I hear these people saying that they're fighters. What have they ever
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accomplished? Right? What have they thought over? We've fought in the arena,
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and we've won and delivered time after time for West Virginia. So I
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think people are looking for that leadership. They're looking for someone to help the
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state grow economically so it can protect their jobs. Someone is going to be
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ruthless against Bynomics and to ensure that American energy independence comes back. And then
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also someone is going to grow educational attainment, which has to be a top
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priority for our next governor. Our kids are our most precious resources. There's
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one candidate in this race that has the experience in all of those areas,
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and I think as the race gets narrowed down, Dave, you're beginning to
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see it, especially with some of the reports coming out. You know,
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there's some candidates that are not going to compete in the final couple months very
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effectively. I think people are going to look for what that vision is and
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Hobby Kerchival in Morgantown last week. Can you opted not to take part?
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Which is certainly your white Why did you make that decision to set it out?
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Absolutely? For a couple of different reasons. First, I'll note that
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I had called and I asked for flexibility on the date because I thought that
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the debate was being set too early. The filing period has now just begun,
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it closes January twenty seventh. We don't know which candidates are going to
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be in, which candidates are going to be out. There's still a few
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more weeks for that to change course. And so the first observation was,
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this was in December when no one is paying attention. I woant have debate
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when people were paying attention and were visible when you're asked the tough questions.
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So that was the first seconds. I offered to have some input and ask
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to have some input on some of the rules. And while I'm sure there
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was some flexibility provided, and I have great respect for Hoppy, the answer
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was no, and we weren't really going to have input into the rules,
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and that bothers me. I don't think that the media should solely dictate what
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the rules of the road should be for debate. So I was very comfortable
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say no. I've challenged my opponents to three debates and I'm eager to do
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that. I think that there's one that's probably going to be coming up,
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and sometime in early February, after the following deadline. There might be another
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one coming into the works in March, but I think there was a question
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of timing, and I asked to have a different date, but the decision
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had been made, and obviously they didn't care very much to have me the
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guy that's up by ten to fifteen points. That's fine. We're not going
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to run our campaign based upon the media. We're going to run it based
24:03
upon what's best for the citizens of our state. You alluded to the facts
24:06
or that you feel, and others have said this to not just you,
24:08
that of the major candidates that are in there on the Republican side right now,
24:14
that there may be one or maybe more that won't be there by the
24:17
time the primary roles around. It may Why do you feel that way?
24:21
Well, I think that as voters start to look at the people with the
24:25
record, who has the proven record of getting really big things done, and
24:29
who's just issuing promises, and I think that's what's allowing us to separate from
24:33
the pack. And so I don't know, I'm not in a competition for
24:37
second place. I'm running hard to win, So I can't tell you who's
24:41
going to rise and fall. But I think that what we're hearing on the
24:45
campaign trail is they want to trust the governorship to someone who has a really
24:51
rich record, who they know has been out in the arena fighting and winning,
24:56
and who have to take on some of these tough players on the outside.
25:00
People know that I've got to fight against Bloomberg and Sorrows and defeated him
25:03
in court. These other guys they've not tased major league pitching before, right,
25:08
So it's going to be very difficult for them in order to get to
25:12
the place where they're able to I think convince people that their records are going
25:17
to be ready for this upcoming race. But I think there's some good people.
25:21
I think they'll get some good ideas and Dave, as you know,
25:23
I've not been negative in this race. I've tried to just put my own
25:26
positive ideas out there, and so far that's been working pretty well. Give
25:32
me thirty seconds. Why should people vote for Patrick Morrissey, the current Attorney
25:34
General, to be the next governor of the stay to West Virginia. People
25:37
should vote for Patrick Morrissey because I am the one proven conservative running in this
25:42
race with a record of getting big things done for West Virginia. We're looking
25:48
to enhance the standard of living dramatically, drive educational entertainment, and fight off
25:55
the federal overreach and the woke ideas that are trying to harm our backs use
26:00
here in the Mountain state. There's one person who's been there, who's done
26:03
that, who's delivered time after time, and you won't have to worry whether
26:07
he's conservative or not. What can people learn more about your campaign, sir?
26:11
People can go to Patrickmorise dot com and so that's Patrick Morris CMO R
26:18
R I S E Y dot com. We have a lot of different items
26:22
up there. People can look at past articles, people can look at my
26:26
positions on the issues. I don't think you're going to see the same from
26:29
some of the other candidates. And excited to spend some time and see people
26:33
in person, and so Dave, I'm obviously grateful to join you to hope
26:37
that I might be able to chat with you a little bit on the outside
26:41
council because that's such a great record. If you have four minutes to catch
26:45
up with you on that, well go ahead. How about if I give
26:47
you one minute right now on the outside council, absolutely go ahead. So
26:51
you might have heard if you're listening to the show, you might have heard
26:53
of someone who's a political opponent of mine come on the air and spit out
26:57
a lot of really accurate information and material that I think that's just designed to
27:03
mislead. We have one of the best outside council records in the country,
27:08
and I was really proud to come on and talk about it. We made
27:11
major changes from when Daryl McGraw was in office, where he had fees of
27:17
thirty three percent to forty percent. We've changed that. Now our average fee
27:22
for outside council is eight point four percent. It's an incredible number. And
27:26
nowhere was that more evidence than during the opioid fight, where we negotiated I
27:30
think one of the best outside council rates in the nation seven point seventy six
27:36
percent for the state and delivered the best results. So we won the Super
27:40
Bowl and basically had the lowest kate roster in terms of the state. Now
27:45
we don't control the level of fees that counties and cities get paid. I
27:48
thought that should be lower. I argued about that for years and pushed and
27:52
we can document that. So I wanted people to know that it's important that
27:57
people in place that care about the taxpayer resources, and we certainly do.
28:03
And I'm glad you got the chance to talk about that because that's a great
28:06
record, one of the true accomplishments of our office. All Right, there
28:08
you go, and Attorney General Patrick Morrissey will have you on again soon between
28:12
now in the premire I appreciate you taking time out of your schedule to be
28:15
there. Be safe as you're traveling around today, sir, and we'll talk
28:18
soon. Thanks a lot. YEP. Sounds good tick care Tourney General Patrick
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Attorney General Morrissey for coming on the show. Now. It's no secret he
28:52
and I have had some differences of opinion of the last couple months, particularly
28:56
when it comes to criticism of the media and this company. And I mentioned
29:00
this before a little inside Baseball here. He had called me about a week
29:03
or so, a week and a half ago, and we were able to
29:06
have a nice civil conversation for about thirty minutes or so to kind of work
29:11
some things out. And at the end of the day, you know,
29:12
I'm the type of guy that likes everyone to try to get along as best
29:15
as possible, and he and I came to an understanding because the show was
29:18
not about me. It's about the listeners. And I like to present all
29:22
sides of an issue, and when it comes campaign time, I want to
29:25
give everyone an opportunity to get on stage, with the stage being this show,
29:29
to explain to the voters of West Virginia why they should choose that particular
29:33
candidate. Over and done with. Now, I wish the AG the best
29:37
in his race, and if he's elected governor, the last thing I want
29:41
to do is have an adversarial relationship with a governor of West Virginia, no
29:44
matter who he or she may be, so there, text says, Dave,
29:48
every time you have pat on, you ask him the same questions and
29:52
he gives the same answers. Don't think that was the case today. But
29:53
I know Pat is an interesting as drying paint. But I don't think you
29:56
were as unimaginative as conservatives typically are. It's a text, text says,
30:04
going back to the Libertarian Canada I had on I saw the best description of
30:08
libertarians on the internet. Libertarians are like housecats, absolutely convinced of their fierce
30:14
independence, while utterly dependent on the system they don't appreciate or understand, says
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the Texter. Text says, a goofball libertarian would call for less regulations on
30:22
the tenth anniversary of the water crisis that could have been avoided with more stingent
30:26
regulations, says a Texter Texter for a G. Morrissey, How's it even
30:32
legal for activists such as the one out of Texas to file a suit to
30:34
remove President Trump from Western Indian to ballots or to sue another state because students
30:38
voluntarily chose to pray before a football game. These intrusive people need to stay
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in their lanes, Texas. Dave Erica Kalinin's Libertarian Canada is right on Key
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Tay's Valley has gotten so expensive for small business owners. They've done a terrible
30:52
job of planning and now we have just medical office, Starbucks and car washes
30:56
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Texas with respect to the AG, a good AG doesn't to equate to a
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good governor. If so, Secretary of State was a great one too,
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Capita was a great legislator, So seems like a push, According to a
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textter Picli Weekly Hotline three zero four three four five fifty eight fifty eight Fruth
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Pharmacy texts three zero four nine three five five zero zero eight. It was
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ten years ago and many the Charleston area started to smell what they thought was
34:30
Lickorage. Turns out much worse than that. Ten years ago today, the
34:32
water crisis occurred in Charleston. I was not here at that time. My
34:36
wife and I were just making a move from Logan County to Tayses Valley.
34:38
Neither of those areas were impacted. Actually, there were a scant few customers
34:42
in Logan County that weren't impacted, but not a whole lot. But if
34:46
you were living in Charleston at the time, chances are you were impacted.
34:51
Head of the news team, Jeff Jenkins is here. Jeff, good morning,
34:53
Hey, what's going on? And also a former mayor, then mayor
34:58
of Charleston, Danny Jones. Are you doing Please don't ever do that voice
35:01
again. I want to start with a I want to start with a timeline.
35:07
Mayor. I want to start with you, when did you first hear
35:12
of an issue? And Jeff, I'll go to you next. But when
35:15
did you first hear the issue? Danny? What was going on in the
35:19
Mayor's office that day? Talk about that initial info out four o'clock that afternoon,
35:23
somebody came over to my office and got me. Okay, what did
35:27
they say? Said? The water taste like the liquor. Okay, So
35:31
I went where this guy was and says, I drank it. I smelled
35:36
it. I knew we were in trouble. And it's like that feeling that
35:40
comes over you. You know, I've been through some stuff like that before,
35:45
chemical leaks, and you realize these are these are situations that happened.
35:52
Where as a leader in the community, you have no power. Your power.
35:58
The power rests with the people, starting with the West Virginia Water who
36:01
could have shut the water off if they'd wanted to. But I don't have
36:07
anything good to say about them, right, So, so what did you
36:09
What was your first plan of action when you when you got the word that
36:14
the smell and the taste and everything, what what was your first move?
36:16
What did you do? Well? I went back to our office and yes,
36:22
it was there. I'd been in my office and so I could smell
36:28
it outside. You could smell it outside, and it was like that in
36:35
my office. Then I went home it was like that at my home.
36:37
And then next morning, there was a press conference and there was a bunch
36:42
of people that Earl Ray and I were there and the governor L Ray and
36:45
he and I were there, and you just you just have to you realize
36:51
that you're not the one in charge. It's usually when I'm at a press
36:54
conference as a public official, I'm at my own press conference. Well,
37:00
I was at somebody else's press conference and they were they were calling the shots,
37:05
and then I asked them if they could put a timeline on it.
37:09
They said no, And I sent you a couple of yeah, and I
37:14
watched those couple of clips from National You did, Jeff, When did the
37:17
first call start coming in the newsroom here? It was about yeah, about
37:21
four thirty. It was about four thirty because it was a day after the
37:24
session started. So the night before we had had the Stay of the State
37:28
address from Governor Tomblin, and you know, this was a Thursday, and
37:32
we started to get reports and I think we may have gotten maybe a fox
37:36
or something of it that do not use order, do not use water order,
37:40
and they actually had a little The governor had a press event with and
37:45
that's some of the auto you've been hearing with Western American Water over there on
37:49
Thursday evening and then again on Friday morning that the mayor was at and we
37:53
took so we went over as Seanna Johnson went over and staffed it. I
37:58
was here in the newsroom and she went over in staffed at Thursday evening and
38:00
then we did the one on Friday morning live. We did that one live
38:05
on the air, and yeah, that's that's when we started to hear about
38:08
it. And then you were hearing, you know, do not use What
38:10
did people do? They went and bought up all the bottled water. You
38:15
couldn't find any well, you went to uh at Pigley Wiggly, which were
38:20
I shop, and I remember Jeff just was selling one case to a customer
38:27
and they had big lines over there to get bottle water. And then we
38:30
started getting it in. We started getting it. Western American Water bought some
38:37
water and it was distributed to the fire stations and people were coming in and
38:44
a lot of people were repeatedly coming in and because I'd stand over their help
38:50
give it out. And then you'd notice some people, you know, getting
38:53
in, they were more than their fair share. Stock piloming. When mayor,
38:58
when did you have your first discussions with Westerrginian, American Water and or
39:01
Freedom Industries, any of these parties. When did you have your first talks
39:05
with them? Well, that evening could have been that evening. And the
39:15
one guy who spoke to King's English and I said, are you sitizens of
39:19
this Gary Southern? Yeah? And he says, I said, are you
39:23
sitis in this country? He said no, I'm trying to become one.
39:27
And they'd owned the company nine days, but they had been associated with it
39:32
for a long time. And I caught him in a lie, and I
39:38
realized there's no credibility to be had there. And I'm just surprised nobody got
39:49
in real trouble for this. I mean, they had to plead guilty to
39:52
misdemeanors. They got fifteen federal judge sentenced them to fifteen to thirty days in
39:59
the can And I just was surprised. You would like to have seen a
40:01
whole lot more than that I expected to. I'm not I'm not the judge
40:06
and jury, right, Yeah, but when you do that, when you
40:08
engage in that kind of neglectful contact conduct to affect the whole community. But
40:15
West Snia Water was part of it. Too. They could have stopped it.
40:19
And when I said that earlier, you said that you felt they should
40:22
have shut the water. Yeah, they should have shut the water off.
40:23
They said, well, we're afraid there might have been a fire. Well,
40:27
then you can turn it back on. There weren't any fires, and
40:30
it could have been cleaned up that day, but it wasn't. I mean,
40:36
the environmental folks could have gotten in there and got that stuff out of
40:38
the water that day, but they didn't do that, and it was just
40:45
sad, and you just had this helpless feeling. I remember I was on
40:49
with Jake Tapper three or four times in a row, and I I'm seeing
40:57
in in the afternoon and a bunch of my friends in California. They didn't
41:00
know what I did for a living until until that you kept us secret here
41:06
in Charleston. Yeah, I never They knew where I was from, but
41:07
they didn't know what I did for a living, because that's someone I'm out
41:10
there for and they you're the mayor, you know. And it was it
41:19
was. It was a very helpless time and it it went on for a
41:25
while, and I think in some ways it's still going on. I mean,
41:29
people that live here are still afraid to drink the water, and people
41:32
that come in here that would remember that or become acquainted with those facts.
41:36
I won't drink the water. I don't think there's anything wrong with the water
41:38
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Danny of the largest city in Western and you have to be prepared for all
42:00
sorts of disasters and calamities from you know, floods to fires and so on
42:05
and so forth. But this was a totally different situation nowause you don't really
42:10
and I was talking about this with one of my guests, Ms. Cleinich
42:14
earlier, you don't realize how impactful and how much water that you. I
42:21
mean, it's one thing not to be I grew up in a coal camp.
42:22
Sometimes we couldn't drink the water, but we could still cook with it
42:25
because you boiled out a lot of the impurities and so on and so forth.
42:30
But to not to be able to use it to shower, bathe wash
42:32
your hands. I mean, that's a totally different ballgame. Theyre I shared
42:37
every single day. It didn't bother me. It was col soap. How's
42:40
it going to hurt you? But I showered every single day. But people
42:45
were checking in hotels and there's no water on in the in the hotels,
42:52
or I don't think there were, But it was just that they're paying the
42:55
big price to stay in the MC suites and you're not. You're not getting
43:00
what you need. What I learned more about situations like this in ninety five
43:05
and ninety six when I was Kent Melton's Emergency Service director and in that job.
43:13
In that capacity, you go around the state and you have meetings with
43:19
people and sometimes volunteer fire stations, and you go upstairs and you have tabletops,
43:27
you know scenarios, you work them out what happens, what happens if
43:30
the train car goes off the tracks and has chemicals full of chemicals and it
43:37
gets out here. And then you have different people in the room that go
43:39
through what their role would be. And that's how you learn. And the
43:44
emergened service director doesn't have a job like you do. They don't come in
43:50
here do a body of work every day. It's just a continual learning process
43:55
and that person becomes the go to guy before you know, for resources during
44:01
the event. But what happened to me was there's nothing you could do about
44:07
this, and it affected three hundred thousand people in nine different counties, and
44:13
I became the de facto spokesman for those folks. So my job was bigger
44:21
than Charleston, not because I'm special, but because it fell to me by
44:24
default that I would do the speaking for those for those folks, I want
44:30
to talk about the effort to get out information, Jeff. I want to
44:32
go to you when we come back right after this. I want to talk
44:36
about the important role that we played. I say, well, I wasn't
44:38
here at the time, but that this company played in all that, and
44:42
Danny about you getting out the information. Plus I have a couple of texts
44:44
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the news team and Danny for YouTube. Jeff, I'll start with you.
47:28
So this became a situation where after a while, it's not just about getting
47:32
the news out, but it's about getting valuable information out to people. Talk
47:36
about that, well, yeah, because people I remember having doctor Earl goopto
47:40
on the cred Charleston Health Department Director just a lot. We had him on
47:45
a lot. We did extended shows right in the afternoon and in the and
47:50
just have him on about what we knew about. That was the big thing.
47:53
No one really knew what this stuff was, as Danny said. And
47:57
then we had all there were all kinds of news conferences. Governor had all
48:00
kinds of news conferences live that we took on the air, and then we
48:05
just took We just took calls from people wanting to know things, and we
48:08
would try to answer their questions, where can they get the water where?
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You know, what are they supposed to do? You know about you should
48:15
they shut off their hot water tanks? I mean, you know, it
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was all those type of things. And you know, I was thinking as
48:21
Danny was talking, I mean, this story had so many It was that
48:23
initial you know thing, but then it had well who's Freedom Industries? You
48:30
know. Then it had the US Chemical Safety Board that came in and did
48:34
the investigation and found the crack in the tank, and then the tanks were
48:37
eventually were eventually demolished, taking off the site. They there were the lawsuitsters,
48:43
a class action lawsuit, and then there was actually then there was eventually
48:45
several years later payment you know, to residents from the class action lawsuits.
48:52
So there was just so many. I think at the first it was unknown.
48:54
People were just concerned and like Danny, I mean, at first,
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I didn't take a shower, you know, I remember using bottled water to
49:02
take a shower for at least the first few days. But then you know,
49:06
I didn't, you know, when I didn't smell it anymore at my
49:07
home because the Guard played a big role of flushing out all the lines.
49:12
I mean they were going all through these counties and flushing out the lines and
49:15
doing the testing. So yeah, there's just so much to it. Speaking
49:17
of that, I have a textass day. The only sportsperson who could be
49:21
trusted during the water crisis was Mayor Danny Jones and General James Hoyer. Thank
49:24
god for the Western Indian National Guard during that time and every other serious issue
49:30
the state faces. Danny, yeah it, but I was affected like everybody
49:35
else. Yeah, And this was a situation where you just didn't have any
49:39
control, and there's you couldn't escape unless you just left left these nine Counties.
49:50
I remember at the Duratia you remember that. Yeah, it stopped at
49:52
fiftieth Street in Kenol City. I had a building at fifty third Street,
49:57
so Sarah and the boys and we all moved on there. I had I
50:00
had two apartments there and we all just lived there so you could escape it
50:04
couldn't escape this. It was the classic. And she's no longer in news
50:09
anymore. Cali Kart, you know she works up to the capitol. She
50:13
had the classic. Oh I remember that. Yeah, that was great,
50:15
so so so Gary Southern is out there drinking water, Yeah, drinking bottle
50:22
of water, having a live presser. I remember this, and she and
50:25
he says he was done, and she says, no, you're not,
50:29
No, you're not call Yeah. And I think she was pregnant at the
50:31
time, I think, and she she was like, no, you're not,
50:36
No, you're not done. We're not done with you. And Calli,
50:38
Calli is so sweet and you it just seems so out of character for
50:43
her, but she was right, yeah, And he was the policy making
50:46
untouchable. All right. Danny quickly talked about the economic impact of this as
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we close out today. I mean, it took her because the restaurants were
50:52
closed. It was almost like the pandemic. To a certain A million,
50:55
A million dollars wouldn't cover it, not in my opinion. Jeff's got to
51:00
get back where, Jeff. I appreciate you coming in. Thanks a lot,
51:01
Thanks loll Jeff, go ahead, Danny, wrap that up. Well,
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A million dollars was paid to the city, but I don't think it
51:08
helped any of the businesses that were down. And I'm glad I wasn't in
51:13
the restaurant business at that time, and you you know, you just kind
51:16
of shut down, and it was it was just it was just just helpless.
51:22
Let me read this final Texas, Texas. I still don't trust the
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water. I buy gallons of drinking water to cook, with cases of bottled
51:29
water to drink. Ten years later, I still think Tay's Valley YMCA for
51:31
inviting people to their facilities take showers. After several days of just a water
51:36
jug sync bath, a full shower was the greatest feeling in the world.
51:38
I can imagine it probably would be well, yeah, but I took one
51:42
every day. Yeah I didn't. I'd liquor your none. It's close soap.
51:45
It's not going to urge. All right, Danny, Jeff, I'm
51:49
staying on with hop all right, are you coming on top of the So
51:52
basically we're going to tag you in here, So Danny and Hopy, of
51:55
course we'll be talking more about the tenth anniversary of the water crisis. Coming
51:59
up on talk line. My producer Ryan Nicholson, thank you so much.
52:01
Thanks to Attorney General Patrick Morrison, candidate for governor, and Erica Kalenitch,
52:06
Libertarian candidate for governor as well. Coming up on the show tomorrow, it's
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Charleston Restaurant Week. We're gonna spend some time talking about that. It's coming
52:12
up, I should say, Gressa Gallagher for Americans for Prosperity will be here
52:15
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