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TMP318 JONNY CAMPOS FINDS HIS WAY · Troubled Men Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker A: Foreign. Greetings, troubled listeners. Welcome back to the Troubled Men podcast. I am Renee Komen, sitting once again in the heart of the Clempire Snake and Jake's Christmas Club lounge with my co host, the original troubled man for troubled times and future mayor of New Orleans, Mr. Manny Chevrolet.
• 0:33
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 0:33
  Speaker A: Welcome, Manny.
• 0:34
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Hey.
• 0:35
  Speaker A: Yep, they're dropping like flies, man. Dropping out of the race. You saw that?
• 0:40
  Speaker B: You gotta pay your taxes.
• 0:42
  Speaker A: Yes, you do.
• 0:44
  Speaker B: Isn't that like the two things in life that are certain?
• 0:47
  Speaker A: Death and taxes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 0:49
  Speaker B: You know, I guess people, people have tried to avoid death. Know. I guess, you know, people try to avoid taxes. What's. He's the guy though, the.
• 0:58
  Speaker A: I know the one guy you're talking about.
• 1:00
  Speaker C: Former.
• 1:00
  Speaker A: He was like a head of the 911 group, right?
• 1:03
  Speaker B: What's it, his. Tyler or Taylor or something?
• 1:06
  Speaker A: Yeah. Collier or something. Is the last name, something like that. Fifteen Collins. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:11
  Speaker B: There's 14 or 15 candidates and he dropped out and well, he's been disqualified.
• 1:16
  Speaker A: Right, right.
• 1:17
  Speaker B: There's another candidate also for mayor who I don't know if she's been disqualified yet, but you know, our current mayor has refused to pay taxes.
• 1:26
  Speaker A: Sure. Yeah.
• 1:27
  Speaker B: You know, so I guess once you're.
• 1:29
  Speaker A: Elected, you get to do whatever you want.
• 1:30
  Speaker B: Yeah. You know, and so, yeah, you don't pay your taxes. And he had that whole 91 1.
• 1:37
  Speaker A: Oh, man, he's, he's still under, he's still facing a trial.
• 1:42
  Speaker B: What was it, the 91 1.
• 1:43
  Speaker A: Well, so, so what happened? He was in charge of the, you know, city's emergency response department. He had a late night automobile accident with a city car. Then he. The regulations call for you to have blood testing, you know, alcohol and drug testing in the event of an accident with a city car. So he didn't do that and instead he went home and the next day he went in and tried to change the policy to say that you don't have to do that.
• 2:18
  Speaker C: Smart.
• 2:19
  Speaker A: And, and of course, you know, they have a record of, of when all those changes were made.
• 2:24
  Speaker B: He really thought he could be mayor?
• 2:27
  Speaker A: Well, you know, I guess he looks at Trump and says, well, hey man, it could be my ticket out of.
• 2:32
  Speaker B: Here, you know, and you know, we've got the other guy, Scurlock. We talked to people right before and I'm supposed to meet up with him this Friday evening.
• 2:40
  Speaker A: Oh, really?
• 2:40
  Speaker B: And talk about bad habits.
• 2:43
  Speaker A: Okay. Really? Is this a public forum or just.
• 2:47
  Speaker B: A little, you know, I get my emails through Yahoo and they change their whole format. Yahoo. The look. And now they, they, they determine, they determine what's the most important email and what isn't for you.
• 3:02
  Speaker A: Really?
• 3:03
  Speaker B: Yes, it's just horrible. They switch to it and it's confusing the out of me. So apparently there's a forum I'm going to Friday with the lower candidates, the lower echelon candidates. And Scurlock's gonna be there.
• 3:17
  Speaker A: Yeah, that makes sense.
• 3:18
  Speaker B: And so, you know, he had that whole issue with, with the back seat of a car, Right? Yeah. But, you know, it's funny. I, I, I've gone over this over the years. You know, when you qualify for any office, you become very popular with organizations and, and people who want to know how you feel. I stand. You know, there's an organization to help the homeless. There's an organization. Oh, right.
• 3:43
  Speaker C: Just for money. Donations.
• 3:45
  Speaker B: Well, well, that's funny you mentioned, because I got a call. Actually, it was an email from the senior voter caucus.
• 3:57
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 3:58
  Speaker B: And they're having a form, of course, because they all have these forms and they invited me to it. But they also said, you to be a part of it, you have to pay $150. So I wrote back, I said, well, what's the 150 for? And they wrote me back and they said, well, it helps to pay for the event and also feed our seniors. And I wrote back, well, I'm a senior. Are you gonna. And I'm very hungry.
• 4:28
  Speaker C: Discount. Maybe a discount.
• 4:30
  Speaker B: I don't know. But I haven't heard back since I asked that question.
• 4:34
  Speaker A: That early bird special.
• 4:35
  Speaker B: I don't know. Well, that's the thing. I'd like to go to it just to put people asleep, you know. And then I got today, well, it was actually yesterday or Friday. I got a call from some little old lady who says she was representing some organization. I can't remember, but it was to help kids. It was a kids thing. And they wanted to know if, said, Mr. Chevrolet, would you like to mentor a child? I said, do you know who I am? Do you know who I am? And they were like, well, yes, you're running for May. I go. I go, I think I'll pass.
• 5:17
  Speaker A: Maybe they heard about your clown camps.
• 5:18
  Speaker B: And thought, well, yeah, I, I don't know about. Yeah, yeah. But so it happens, you know, it go out of any, out of the blue.
• 5:27
  Speaker C: It's an honor.
• 5:28
  Speaker A: Yeah, you make yourself a target.
• 5:29
  Speaker B: Well, it's funny, because all these emails you get are these phone calls. They always say, congratulations, yes, you've qualified. Yeah, you're gonna do good. And all that kind of stuff.
• 5:40
  Speaker C: Yep.
• 5:41
  Speaker B: And I just find it hilarious. But the one thing that I haven't got yet is the bombardment of just regular mail. I mean, the past elections, I just could come home and it would just be like, you know, this thick stuff.
• 5:55
  Speaker A: You mean just that everybody gets all the junk mail?
• 5:58
  Speaker B: Yeah, just the junk mail, you know, so it's. It's going to be fun.
• 6:04
  Speaker A: Still a ways off. Yeah.
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  Speaker B: I have to sober up a little bit to pay more attention cuz some of the. Cuz this new format that Yahoo has. I'm very confused.
• 6:12
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 6:13
  Speaker B: And my wife's very busy right now. She can't help me. So I think I have to sober up a little bit.
• 6:18
  Speaker A: Yes. Read it with the clear eyes instead.
• 6:21
  Speaker B: Of just say no. Like when they get these phone calls. Who are you? How did you get this number?
• 6:32
  Speaker A: Scam likely.
• 6:34
  Speaker B: You know, Scam likelys and stuff. And of course my, my outgoing voice message is the famous John McEnroe line is answer my question, you jerk. Then it goes beep.
• 6:53
  Speaker A: Yeah, well, at least they know who they're dealing with.
• 6:55
  Speaker C: You know, are getting real, real fast.
• 6:57
  Speaker B: So that's been going on also I just found out today Ozzy Osborne died.
• 7:02
  Speaker A: Yes.
• 7:03
  Speaker B: Yes. I loved Ozzy.
• 7:04
  Speaker A: Yeah. Oh yeah, he's. He's one of the greats, man.
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  Speaker B: Great character.
• 7:08
  Speaker A: Yes.
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  Speaker B: And I had a thing for his wife there for a while.
• 7:11
  Speaker A: Okay.
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  Speaker B: What's her name?
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  Speaker A: Sharon.
• 7:13
  Speaker B: Sharon.
• 7:14
  Speaker A: Yeah.
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  Speaker B: She saved his life.
• 7:15
  Speaker A: Oh, absolutely. Yeah, she's a. A genius, uh, you know, rock and roll business person or father.
• 7:22
  Speaker B: Her dad was in the business.
• 7:23
  Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Their dad was a famous manager.
• 7:25
  Speaker B: Right.
• 7:26
  Speaker A: Uh, black manager who. Who told Black Sabbath they should get rid of Ozzy.
• 7:31
  Speaker B: Right.
• 7:32
  Speaker A: And. And they did. And then Sharon went and picked him.
• 7:35
  Speaker B: Up and got him.
• 7:37
  Speaker A: Got him together, man.
• 7:38
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. But well, it was funny because I was watching the network news tonight and CBS opened with this whole Epstein thing going on and ABC opened with the whole Epstein thing going on, but NBC opened with Ozzy.
• 7:56
  Speaker A: I thought that was kind of care about.
• 8:00
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Well, there's a lot of poor kids that were abused and stuff and I feel bad for them. But anyway, just thinking of that. There's a. Locally there's some kind of teacher or pastor who just got arrested for having sex with boys.
• 8:15
  Speaker A: It was a choir director.
• 8:16
  Speaker B: Yeah, choir director.
• 8:18
  Speaker A: Saw that. Terrible.
• 8:19
  Speaker B: Yeah. It was boys and girls.
• 8:22
  Speaker A: Who knows? But it's more than one case apparently. You know, he was a bunch of different schools. Most recently maybe Warren Easton, 35, he.
• 8:32
  Speaker B: Got around this Guy.
• 8:33
  Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's terrible, man. People in.
• 8:36
  Speaker B: Preach it to the choir.
• 8:37
  Speaker A: He said, yes, there you go, man.
• 8:40
  Speaker B: Sing it to the choir.
• 8:41
  Speaker A: Oh, man.
• 8:42
  Speaker B: Anyway. Yeah, so that's going on, right.
• 8:45
  Speaker A: They had a couple of groups in town. One was a Christian Ruth group, youth group convention. And when I was down playing my carousel gig on Sunday with the iguanas there, they were protesting all. Well, not. I'm not sure. I wasn't really paying that much attention, but they were out and drove.
• 9:02
  Speaker B: Let's get the Jew. Let's get the Jew right now.
• 9:06
  Speaker A: They were. They were out in droves, roaming around the. The. The downtown area and the French Quarter as well. Yeah, yeah.
• 9:12
  Speaker B: But then have bullhorns and say, no, no, no, no.
• 9:16
  Speaker A: They were just trying to. Trying to stay together. Trying to stay as a. As a. As a little herd, you know, The. The parents were watching over them.
• 9:22
  Speaker B: That a Christian come down here? I don't.
• 9:25
  Speaker A: I. I don't know. Maybe they figured there's work to be done or cheaper.
• 9:29
  Speaker C: Yeah, it's just cheaper.
• 9:31
  Speaker B: They should start at this bar.
• 9:32
  Speaker A: Sure.
• 9:33
  Speaker B: With the work.
• 9:34
  Speaker A: Right now. I think at the same time, they had a swingers convention that was intended.
• 9:39
  Speaker B: Well, that's right. That's the annual swingers convention. I know about that. That convention.
• 9:44
  Speaker A: Right.
• 9:44
  Speaker B: And it brings some of the most unattractive people you ever want to see.
• 9:47
  Speaker A: People so gross, man. People who want to. Other people's fat wives.
• 9:53
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 9:53
  Speaker A: You know, yours isn't enough for.
• 9:56
  Speaker B: Right, exactly.
• 9:57
  Speaker A: Find somebody else's fat wife to.
• 9:59
  Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, God. I just. Yeah. Anyway, that's going on, and I heard something funny over the weekend. This guy in the west coast, somewhere in the Bay Area, I think he tried to carjack a driverless car.
• 10:15
  Speaker A: Wow.
• 10:16
  Speaker B: You know. And he got away with it. So anyway, that's. That's in the news.
• 10:23
  Speaker A: Expected more of a pop from that.
• 10:25
  Speaker B: Yeah, I know.
• 10:26
  Speaker C: They have steering wheels.
• 10:27
  Speaker B: They have steering wheel wills. These driverless cars, they're big, man. Out there in Northern California.
• 10:33
  Speaker C: I saw them in Austin.
• 10:34
  Speaker A: Really?
• 10:35
  Speaker B: Yeah. Really have them in Austin, too.
• 10:36
  Speaker C: They're already there.
• 10:37
  Speaker B: Do they have them here?
• 10:38
  Speaker A: I haven't seen any.
• 10:39
  Speaker B: I don't have.
• 10:39
  Speaker C: They'll be destroyed by the. By the streets.
• 10:42
  Speaker A: Yeah. I remember once.
• 10:43
  Speaker B: So I was with a buddy of mine, and we were in Beverly Hills waiting at a red light, and this car in front of us made this erratic right turn, and we both looked and was like, there's nobody driving that car. There's nobody driving that car. This is like 1988. 89 or something like that.
• 11:02
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 11:03
  Speaker B: So we took a ride ourselves, and the car pulled over to front of some restaurant, and it was Frank Sinatra Jr.
• 11:10
  Speaker A: I thought you were gonna say Hervey Vilaches.
• 11:12
  Speaker B: No, no, Herbic didn't hang in Beverly hills.
• 11:17
  Speaker A: Frank Sinatra Jr.
• 11:18
  Speaker B: It was Frank Sinatra Jr. I don't know what he was doing. Maybe he was going in his glove box or something.
• 11:22
  Speaker A: He doesn't get enough credit, man. Frank Sinatra.
• 11:25
  Speaker B: Yeah. He almost lost an ear.
• 11:27
  Speaker A: Oh, yeah. He got. Got kidnapped. Yeah, yeah. No, that was. That was the other kid. The. The. The Nancy Sinatra. No, no, the. No, the Lindbergh baby. The other. No, you're getting warm.
• 11:40
  Speaker B: Oh, Getty.
• 11:40
  Speaker A: Yeah, Getty. Yeah, yeah, later, later. Dope fiend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 11:45
  Speaker B: He was a good guy.
• 11:46
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 11:47
  Speaker B: Great museum, too.
• 11:48
  Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, I love to get it.
• 11:50
  Speaker B: Fabulous museum out there.
• 11:51
  Speaker A: And Balthazar Getty's father.
• 11:53
  Speaker B: Yes, Right? He got great images.
• 11:56
  Speaker C: Great images.
• 11:56
  Speaker B: Yeah. I'm glad we could help you out with that.
• 12:00
  Speaker A: Right, right, right.
• 12:00
  Speaker B: But thinking of great images, did you hear last week, some guy, somehow, I don't know how this happens, but he went into an MRI with a. With a chain, and they turned the machine on and. With his chain on, and it choked him to death. And choked him. Because it's. I don't know if you've ever done one, but it's.
• 12:18
  Speaker A: They spin, right?
• 12:19
  Speaker B: Well, no, they don't spin. It's all magnets. They kind of shake and it goes around you. It's just like thousands of magnetic fields going through your system. And I mean, it. I don't like it at all. It's very scary.
• 12:32
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 12:33
  Speaker B: I hear people complain you have to be completely still.
• 12:36
  Speaker A: And they take a long time, right?
• 12:38
  Speaker B: They take a very long time. Because, like, I went in to get, like, an MRI for my neck a few years back, and they have to take every kind of image from every angle. So it takes a long time. It's like.
• 12:52
  Speaker A: Like 50 minutes or something, right? 45.
• 12:55
  Speaker B: At least a half hour.
• 12:56
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the loud, too, is what I hear.
• 12:59
  Speaker B: So loud now, people have. Swear they go in there. They can come in there with like a little. Their little Walkman or something like that and listen to music. But I don't see how you can hear your music because, I mean, it is just so loud.
• 13:12
  Speaker A: So. So the magnets, apparently, like, he had an iron chain on or iron cross, whatever.
• 13:18
  Speaker B: But how. Why did it. Why would you. The thing I didn't see was, why was he in there to begin with? I don't think he had an appointment.
• 13:24
  Speaker A: Oh, wow. He just went in there just for a joyride.
• 13:27
  Speaker B: I, I don't know what this guy was saying, but it was like Long Island, New York or something like that. Great Neck somewhere like that.
• 13:33
  Speaker A: Too many of those iced teas maybe, I don't know.
• 13:36
  Speaker B: But he's dead.
• 13:37
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 13:37
  Speaker B: So.
• 13:38
  Speaker A: Yeah, that's what they call that. Natural selection.
• 13:41
  Speaker B: Yeah. And he'll be buried with his chains.
• 13:43
  Speaker A: Okay, very good, very good. Very important to him.
• 13:47
  Speaker B: Yeah. So anything else going on?
• 13:49
  Speaker A: Well, just, just kind of counting, you know, something we talked about earlier in the shows several months ago. You know, we had the OPP escapees.
• 13:59
  Speaker B: Yeah. One still out there.
• 14:01
  Speaker A: Yeah. Derrick Groves, the most dangerous criminal, perhaps the double murder convicted double murderers is still on the loose. And they had a little follow up article and the feds are saying that the tips have dried up and they think at this point he could be anywhere and they may be a long time before they see him. And I was thinking, you know, it could be one of those kind of like SLA, you know, Symbionese Liberation army type things where like 30 years from now they, they, he shows up, he's taken his. Or maybe he's just like taking his grandchildren under an assumed name to, you know, register for something, you know, and they somehow facial recognition kicks in. I don't know.
• 14:45
  Speaker B: Well, I mean, he's, it's what, since May?
• 14:47
  Speaker A: It's been over 70 days.
• 14:49
  Speaker B: Yeah. Maybe he killed himself. Well, I don't know. You think he'd find a body by then. He's, you know, he could be like in our back. He could be like next door.
• 14:59
  Speaker A: Sure, sure.
• 15:00
  Speaker B: I mean, what's his name? Massey was right in your neighbor, Close to your neighbor.
• 15:04
  Speaker A: Right.
• 15:04
  Speaker B: Hanging out.
• 15:05
  Speaker A: Yeah. As we say, the kids across the, I mean the fellas across from Snake and Jake's here. You know, I don't, I'm not checking any IDs on them. They could, could be anybody. They seem the same enough. Sure.
• 15:17
  Speaker B: Yeah. So yeah, he's out there, man. And you know, the over under is still there for him when he's going to get caught and stuff.
• 15:25
  Speaker A: Well, you know, another person who's still out there, who there was a lot of question about, but some of those questions were answered this week. I'm sure you saw our former guest and old buddy Chris Rose showed up in the article. Keith Spira, another former guest, went up there to the, the woods of Vermont or Connecticut or something and, and tracked Chris down and got the money that he owed him. The money. And that $10 for that mother's roast beef sandwich that he bought in 19.
• 15:56
  Speaker B: You know, Chris is a great guy, very talented. I love Chris and, But, you know, I think there's something deep down. He's kind of like one of those characters that we've talked about in the past where you just look into his eyes and you don't know who's driving. Well, I think that's Chris. He's like Andy Kaufman, Chris Rose. Anthony Kiedis is a guy like that, known for years. He's one of those guys where, you know, so there's it and it's all these guys have had some kind of trouble, right? You know, upbringing and stuff like that, you know.
• 16:28
  Speaker A: Well, you know, a lot of people, success can be your downfall. You know, you think everybody is, is striving for success, but if it comes in the, under the wrong circumstances, maybe too fast or, you know, if, if you can't handle it, you're better off without it, man.
• 16:45
  Speaker B: Right. And, but I, I, I skimmed. I saw it on, on the, on the computer there, the story about him, and, But, I mean, it's not like he's, he's not out there like, you know, Survivor or that show alone where he's just. No, he's got a little camper and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:03
  Speaker A: He has his scene together. He's taking care of the campgrounds, and then he has his routine.
• 17:07
  Speaker B: He's smoking cigarettes, still smoking. Smokey the Bear doesn't like that.
• 17:11
  Speaker A: Yeah, it's true. I didn't think about that.
• 17:13
  Speaker B: Come on, Chris, get it together.
• 17:15
  Speaker A: But then he comes down and I guess winters in the, the woods of Mississippi, right? Interior there. He's keeping it, keeping it close, though.
• 17:25
  Speaker B: Maybe he's with that escapee. Maybe he's hiding Groves guy. Maybe he's helping him.
• 17:30
  Speaker A: Manny Chevrolet, connecting the dots.
• 17:32
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 17:34
  Speaker A: All right.
• 17:35
  Speaker B: Anyway, so going back to politics for just a second. I, I, you know, our fearless leader and his, his appointees to all these departments. I saw this thing with the RFK Jr. And what guy? This guy. And, you know, he's tries to talk. I don't know what kind of. He's got some kind of condition himself. He's the czar of the Health Department or something. And I'm watching this interview with him, and the more he talks, the more, like, foam starts coming out of him.
• 18:09
  Speaker A: Like saliva collecting in the corners.
• 18:11
  Speaker B: Yeah, the corners. And I just kept thinking, Cujo the dog. Cujo the dog. I'm watching this guy go, He's Cujo the dog. I mean, any minute now, he's just gonna start, like, chomping on that reporter's ankle or something like that. So, you know, shout out to RFK junior. Keep it together, man. Stay away. Stay out of way of my neighborhood.
• 18:36
  Speaker A: As long as he doesn't break the skin, you're okay.
• 18:38
  Speaker B: Well, yeah, exactly. And then apparently he is. Him and our fearless leader say that Coke should go back to real sugar.
• 18:48
  Speaker A: Okay, well, I support that. You know, not that I drink Cokes anymore, but. Yeah, I used to, but. And I like the. I preferred them with the sugar, but I haven't.
• 18:57
  Speaker B: I can't. I mean, I haven't. I wouldn't know the difference.
• 19:00
  Speaker A: I. I can taste the difference, but I haven't had a Coke. I mean, that's something I used to love, but I just lost a taste for it, man.
• 19:05
  Speaker B: Well, it's bad for you.
• 19:06
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 19:07
  Speaker B: That's basically. That's why I stopped. Cokes are bad. All that. All that stuff is bad. But every once in a while, I look at the RC Cola and go, oh, I wouldn't mind an RC Cola.
• 19:18
  Speaker A: RC Cola and a Moon Pie.
• 19:20
  Speaker B: No, RC Cola and a warm woman.
• 19:23
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 19:23
  Speaker B: That's what I like, you know? Nice royal crown.
• 19:27
  Speaker A: Royal crown. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 19:29
  Speaker B: Do you know the Kansas City Royals, the baseball team? You would think they're called the Royals for, like, some kind of king, you know, or maybe the owner, you know, was. Came from some kind of lineage of royalty and stuff like that. But you know why they're not. You know why they're called the Kansas City Royals? I thought they're named after a cow. There's royal cows in the state in that area of the country.
• 19:58
  Speaker A: Huh? Really?
• 19:58
  Speaker B: Where livestock, I mean, is aplenty. There's billion dollar business.
• 20:03
  Speaker A: Sure.
• 20:03
  Speaker B: And apparently there's certain cow and bull that are royalty. So the baseball team is actually named after cows.
• 20:13
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 20:15
  Speaker B: That's why they suck. I don't know. They said a few good teams in the 80s, I remember.
• 20:20
  Speaker A: All right.
• 20:21
  Speaker B: But, yeah, they're good people. But one last thing.
• 20:23
  Speaker A: Yes.
• 20:26
  Speaker B: You know, I was talking to my daughter. She graced us with an appearance of a week or so ago, and we're talking about tick tock and all this social media stuff. And she asked me, do I do Twitter? And I said, I don't do Twitter, man. She said, why not? I go, listen, daughter, I just like going around talking to people in public about unimportant things. That's what Twitter is.
• 20:54
  Speaker A: Sure.
• 20:55
  Speaker B: Basically, talking to people about unimportant Things and she looked at me and got her keys and left.
• 21:01
  Speaker A: So you like the personal touch?
• 21:03
  Speaker B: Yeah, I'd like to just go out there. So anyway, I think it's time to get to our guest. He seems excited.
• 21:09
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. His guest, he's a fantastic two time Grammy award winning guitar player, songwriter, singer with the Lost Bayou Ramblers. Great Cajun punk, neocagin sort of group, you know. He also plays with Louis Michaud's Swamp Magic. And our guest has his own dreamy indie pop group, Brass Bed. Just released a beautiful new single, ready to Run. He's also a member of Carbon Poppies, kind of a lo fi pop group. Also has an ambient pedal steel project called Weeks island, whose record Drost was just re released and also plays around New Orleans with Johnny Campos and today's Hunks. We're going to get into all that and much more. Get into all that and much more. Without further ado, the great Mr. Johnny Campos. Welcome, Johnny.
• 22:05
  Speaker C: Thanks, guys. First time, long time, big fan of the show.
• 22:07
  Speaker A: Oh, right on. He was telling us that. Telling me he's been listening since CC Adcock's first appearance back when we were at the ring room. Oh, yeah, crazy man.
• 22:18
  Speaker B: CC Adcock. He's that. He's from Texas.
• 22:21
  Speaker A: He's from Lafayette.
• 22:22
  Speaker B: Oh, Lafayette. Yeah, I thought he was. He lives in Texas.
• 22:25
  Speaker A: No, no.
• 22:26
  Speaker B: Oh, really?
• 22:28
  Speaker A: But he often wears a cowboy hat. Maybe that's a lot of scarves. Throws you off. Yeah, yeah, just. Just produced record on the Rolling Stones with and for the Clifton Cheniere hundredth birthday tribute record. Anyway, but enough about Cici Adcock. Let's get to our guest, Mr. Johnny Campos. So, Johnny, you're familiar with the show, but you know, I'm sure a lot of listeners to the show are already familiar with you. You play in the. The Lost Bayou Ramblers. Now, you seem way too young to have started with that band, but I think you were an original member. Is that correct?
• 23:06
  Speaker C: No, I've been in the band a little over 10 years.
• 23:08
  Speaker A: Oh, okay.
• 23:09
  Speaker C: But the band just like celebrated 25 years.
• 23:12
  Speaker A: Okay. All right.
• 23:13
  Speaker B: So who did you replace?
• 23:15
  Speaker C: Their guitar? No, he was never in the band.
• 23:18
  Speaker B: Who'd you replace? You don't know?
• 23:20
  Speaker A: It's not important.
• 23:24
  Speaker C: No, he's. He's very much alive. I think he's very happy.
• 23:26
  Speaker B: Oh, there you go.
• 23:27
  Speaker A: Yeah, you know, that's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Times change, you know, People move on. Well, what's the story?
• 23:33
  Speaker B: You want to go?
• 23:34
  Speaker A: Well, Johnny, tell us a little. Okay. Dave Clements. Walking in the door. All right, Brother Dave doing some looks.
• 23:42
  Speaker B: Like our chief of police right now.
• 23:44
  Speaker A: He does. He's got that haircut going. All right.
• 23:48
  Speaker B: Emoji.
• 23:51
  Speaker A: All right, so, Johnny, So the Lost Bayou Ramblers are based out of Lafayette. Is that where you hail from?
• 23:58
  Speaker C: Yeah, I was born in Baton Rouge, grew up in Lafayette, moved here, like, 15 years ago.
• 24:04
  Speaker A: Oh, really? So even you've been living here before you were even in the Ramblers?
• 24:09
  Speaker C: Correct.
• 24:10
  Speaker A: Okay, interesting.
• 24:11
  Speaker C: I went to uno, Got a degree in psychology for some reason.
• 24:16
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 24:16
  Speaker B: That's why the. The sideburns. Right.
• 24:18
  Speaker C: That's why. Well, Neil Young is because of the sideburns.
• 24:21
  Speaker A: Oh, nice. Okay.
• 24:21
  Speaker B: Psychology.
• 24:23
  Speaker A: You know, I. I have a thing I say about the shuffle. You know, the musical form, the shuffle. The shuffle is kind of a sign of the underemployed. Much like mutton chop, sideburn.
• 24:37
  Speaker C: I'm very much employed, unfortunately.
• 24:39
  Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, you sound like a busy guy. All these bands, and then you also. You said you worked a day job since you're 15 years old.
• 24:45
  Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I've been in the service industry since I was, like, 16.
• 24:48
  Speaker A: Okay, well, so. Well, the music business is kind of the service industry anyway, right?
• 24:52
  Speaker C: It is.
• 24:53
  Speaker A: So you have a family that was in Baton Rouge?
• 24:57
  Speaker C: Yeah, well, my parents met here in New Orleans.
• 25:00
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 25:01
  Speaker C: Decided to have a family. So they raised us, like, we were born in Baton Rouge, and they were, like, split up. My mom went to Lafayette, grew up there. Okay, great, great, great place to grow up. But I never played any kind of Cajun music until I joined Las Wayu. Ramp.
• 25:16
  Speaker B: Where'd your dad go?
• 25:17
  Speaker C: He followed us.
• 25:19
  Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, they split up.
• 25:21
  Speaker C: They split up. But they were kids.
• 25:22
  Speaker B: Followed the dad.
• 25:23
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Completely amicable.
• 25:24
  Speaker B: What's wrong with your mom?
• 25:26
  Speaker C: She's great. Well, she's. She's. She just passed a year ago, so it's all good. But, yeah, she's great.
• 25:34
  Speaker A: Right on.
• 25:34
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:35
  Speaker A: Well, so were you playing music in Lafayette growing up?
• 25:39
  Speaker C: Yeah, started, like, at 13. Started playing guitar with. With buddies. Like, you're like, oh, well, play Nirvana covers.
• 25:47
  Speaker A: And so before that, you were a music fan growing up, buying records, listening to radio?
• 25:52
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, pretty much. My first CD ever bought was the soundtrack to Live and Let Die.
• 26:01
  Speaker A: Good guess.
• 26:03
  Speaker B: No, Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
• 26:06
  Speaker C: The Disney classical.
• 26:08
  Speaker A: Like Peter and the Wolf?
• 26:10
  Speaker B: No, Fantasia.
• 26:11
  Speaker C: Fantasia.
• 26:14
  Speaker B: My brother had that soundtrack.
• 26:15
  Speaker C: Nice.
• 26:16
  Speaker B: He used to play it constantly.
• 26:18
  Speaker C: It's a good one.
• 26:19
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's pretty trippy.
• 26:20
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 26:20
  Speaker A: Yeah. A lot of kids.
• 26:21
  Speaker B: He was a hippie, so I Understand why he listened.
• 26:24
  Speaker A: Right, right. I was gonna say a lot of kids in high school was starting to get into psychedelics. Would re. Revisit that record. You getting into a lot of psychedelics in high school?
• 26:34
  Speaker C: A couple times.
• 26:35
  Speaker A: Okay, good, good, good. You know, I always say you don't have to blow your mind like me and Manny did. You just want to open the door, you know?
• 26:42
  Speaker C: Sure, sure.
• 26:43
  Speaker A: Gotta. Gotta get a little taste of what's on.
• 26:45
  Speaker B: The door is always open. Sometimes the lights off.
• 26:49
  Speaker A: Right, Sure.
• 26:51
  Speaker B: I don't know what that means.
• 26:53
  Speaker A: Anyway, we get a flavor.
• 26:55
  Speaker B: What's your name again? Johnny Campus Johnny.
• 26:58
  Speaker A: Johnny Campos.
• 26:59
  Speaker B: Now, are you part of the Campos family in L. A?
• 27:02
  Speaker C: Don't think so. Campos is like Smith in South America.
• 27:06
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 27:06
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 27:07
  Speaker B: Well, there's a great taco chain, rest in LA called Campos Tacos and Burritos. I don't know if there's. I don't know if they're still around, but in the 80s and early 90s, they were huge.
• 27:18
  Speaker C: Any good?
• 27:19
  Speaker B: Very good.
• 27:20
  Speaker C: Very good.
• 27:20
  Speaker B: Very good. You saw one at every little strip mall. They had a great vegetarian burrito, which was very tasty.
• 27:27
  Speaker A: Nice.
• 27:27
  Speaker B: And then they also had a really good steak tacos, which was really good too.
• 27:32
  Speaker A: Carne asada?
• 27:33
  Speaker B: Yeah, the carne asada.
• 27:36
  Speaker C: It's funny because I work at a taco spot on Ferret called Val's Bartend. Vals on Ferret?
• 27:42
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
• 27:44
  Speaker A: They have good carne asada over there.
• 27:46
  Speaker C: It's Barbacoa.
• 27:48
  Speaker A: Oh, okay.
• 27:48
  Speaker B: Oh, that's on right over. Near all those other little places like Company Burger and stuff like that.
• 27:55
  Speaker C: Correct.
• 27:56
  Speaker B: Oh, I'll have to check it out.
• 27:57
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 27:57
  Speaker A: Shout out to Vals. So. So what, besides the Fantasia soundtrack, what other sorts of bands are you attracted to?
• 28:06
  Speaker C: Oh, growing up, we were putting on records. The Clean House and it was like, you know, Abbey Road, Harvest, a lot of classical music.
• 28:17
  Speaker B: But yeah, just like you're just playing with bands? Like house parties and stuff?
• 28:23
  Speaker C: No, this is like growing up.
• 28:24
  Speaker A: Before that.
• 28:25
  Speaker C: Before that. But yeah, it was just. Yeah.
• 28:29
  Speaker B: And are your parents musical?
• 28:31
  Speaker C: Not at all.
• 28:32
  Speaker B: Really?
• 28:33
  Speaker C: Yeah, they were big folkies. Love classical music. But is that.
• 28:38
  Speaker A: Is that where you got into Neil Young? They had Neil Young records.
• 28:42
  Speaker C: My dad was anti Elvis, anti Rolling Stones. I came into those guys late.
• 28:47
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 28:48
  Speaker C: Like college.
• 28:49
  Speaker A: After college you start playing guitar. Didn't. Didn't really play in school band before that or anything.
• 28:55
  Speaker C: No, high school was the first time I played in jazz band. My girlfriend likes to make fun of me because it's nerdier. Than regular band.
• 29:02
  Speaker A: Oh, no, it's not. You have a guitar in your hand.
• 29:07
  Speaker B: Just as nerdy.
• 29:09
  Speaker C: Equally nerdy.
• 29:11
  Speaker A: Yeah, you have a guitar and, you know, it's. It's much cooler.
• 29:14
  Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Wear a suit, a tux.
• 29:17
  Speaker A: Yeah. You can actually go and earn. If you get good at jazz band. Yeah, you can go and get a job in a band. If you get good at marching band.
• 29:25
  Speaker C: You can play sky in the 90s.
• 29:27
  Speaker A: Be a waiter. Yeah, okay. Play sky in the 90s. Be in the mighty, mighty boss times. Once you start playing guitar, do you start working pretty quickly? Start playing in bands?
• 29:40
  Speaker C: The band Brass Bed kind of was like the main band because it was like the drummer I've known since 1992, and the cigarette I knew since senior year of high school. So it was just one of those things, like, we're gonna get through college, and then once we're done with college, we're gonna go tour as hard as we can.
• 29:56
  Speaker B: So you went to uno.
• 29:58
  Speaker C: Went to uno.
• 29:59
  Speaker B: And you studied psychology.
• 30:00
  Speaker C: Studied psychology.
• 30:02
  Speaker B: And how has that helped you in life?
• 30:05
  Speaker C: I don't. Anytime I've ever gotten a job somewhere like service industry, when they. When they find that out, they're like, oh, you're gonna have a great time here. Everybody's crazy.
• 30:16
  Speaker B: Like, every time.
• 30:19
  Speaker C: I don't know.
• 30:19
  Speaker B: What does that even mean?
• 30:20
  Speaker C: Every single time that happens.
• 30:22
  Speaker A: You know what my father explained to me about people that go into psychology? And maybe not all of them, but many of them pursue a degree in psychology because they are crazy and they want to figure out what they can do to cure themselves. And some people never figured out. They wind up getting PhDs and come out the other end. And that's why there are so Many people with PhDs in psychology and they can't find jobs.
• 30:49
  Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I don't want to go back to.
• 30:50
  Speaker B: Guy is gonna take over their job.
• 30:52
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
• 30:53
  Speaker C: A lot of jobs.
• 30:54
  Speaker B: You know, I went to a psychiatrist once.
• 30:56
  Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
• 30:57
  Speaker B: And the first thing he said to me is, what took you so long?
• 31:00
  Speaker D: Wrong.
• 31:01
  Speaker C: He heard about you.
• 31:02
  Speaker B: Yeah. I said, I love my mother. That's what I said. Anyway, getting back to you. You're our guest, right?
• 31:10
  Speaker C: We could go down that road.
• 31:13
  Speaker B: You don't want it.
• 31:13
  Speaker C: It's a long one.
• 31:14
  Speaker B: It's a long, long and winding road.
• 31:17
  Speaker C: Is.
• 31:17
  Speaker B: And I have one bullet in the chamber, but I don't own a gun. Thank goodness.
• 31:23
  Speaker C: Oh, good. Just the chamber.
• 31:24
  Speaker B: Yeah, just the chamber.
• 31:25
  Speaker A: Chamber. All right.
• 31:26
  Speaker B: I like that. Exactly. That's pretty good. I like.
• 31:28
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, It's Very good.
• 31:30
  Speaker B: You're all right, kids. What's your name again?
• 31:32
  Speaker C: Appreciate it.
• 31:33
  Speaker B: Try to keep Johnny Campos. So, straight out of Baton Rouge, right?
• 31:37
  Speaker C: More or less, yeah.
• 31:38
  Speaker A: Lafayette.
• 31:39
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 31:39
  Speaker A: Now New Orleans. Well, well, so. So Brass. Bet. So you. You go. You go way back with those guys?
• 31:47
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:47
  Speaker C: That's what I did for my 20s and my 30s.
• 31:49
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 31:50
  Speaker C: Pretty much.
• 31:51
  Speaker A: So is that how you wind up getting into Lost Bayou Ramblers through?
• 31:56
  Speaker C: No, just like being from Lafayette, meeting the guys and just getting the call. It's like, hey, do you want to play guitar? I got a call to play bass for a filming of NCIS New Orleans. And as I was about to leave, they're like, you know what? We got a bass player. Bring your guitar. And I've just played guitar ever since.
• 32:16
  Speaker A: Oh, really?
• 32:16
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 32:17
  Speaker A: Interesting.
• 32:18
  Speaker C: And I think they cut us out of that episode, so you can't even find it.
• 32:21
  Speaker B: That was a Scott Bacula show, right?
• 32:23
  Speaker C: Yes.
• 32:24
  Speaker B: He had a great accent in that show.
• 32:26
  Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I'll bet. Some real, like, Gone with the Wind.
• 32:32
  Speaker B: That show lasted one season.
• 32:34
  Speaker C: I think maybe I. I only like him from Quantum Leap.
• 32:37
  Speaker B: Yes, Quantum Leap. American Beauty, where he played the gay jogger.
• 32:41
  Speaker C: Oh, I didn't see that.
• 32:42
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he plays a gay jogger.
• 32:45
  Speaker A: Behind, like, a steel trap, man.
• 32:49
  Speaker B: Five lines. And under men, he get union wages.
• 32:52
  Speaker C: For the five.
• 32:53
  Speaker B: He'll get, you know.
• 32:54
  Speaker C: Right.
• 32:54
  Speaker B: He'll get the union. 950.
• 32:57
  Speaker C: You know, we tried, you know, one.
• 33:00
  Speaker B: Line and under you get, like, 750.
• 33:02
  Speaker C: Right, right. We tried.
• 33:03
  Speaker B: But that's the union now.
• 33:05
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 33:05
  Speaker B: No one's. Hollywood, New Orleans, Louisiana. Hollywood is dead here, you know, in.
• 33:12
  Speaker A: The US in general.
• 33:13
  Speaker B: In fact, I just found out that a friend of ours who worked in the business for years, and it's so shut down now here because of the tax breaks were taken away by our governor that he's working at Trader Joe's now.
• 33:32
  Speaker A: Oh, yeah. No, the industry is in a big slump, man. Yeah. It's been several years since a lot of people have worked well, so. So you meet those guys now? I. That's the. At that time, the band had been playing together for 15 years or so. And from what I understand, like, they're kind of thinking, oh, maybe we're kind of winding this thing down or something. You know, that was.
• 33:55
  Speaker C: There was. Yeah, there was talk. We had a hiatus in 2018, and because it was just like we were doing the, like, Jazz fest weekend, like, seven shows. We playing, like, the 2:00am DBA show. And then.
• 34:09
  Speaker A: No, I'm talking About before that.
• 34:10
  Speaker C: Before that.
• 34:11
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuz. Cuz the thing is. So you guys wind up winning a Grammy.
• 34:15
  Speaker C: Yeah, no, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We. We won it after the hiatus.
• 34:19
  Speaker A: Oh, all right. Sorry.
• 34:21
  Speaker C: It's all good.
• 34:21
  Speaker A: Ruining the story once again.
• 34:24
  Speaker B: But I think we had one of your bandmates on the show. The actual two of them. Oh, really?
• 34:30
  Speaker C: The main guys.
• 34:31
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 34:31
  Speaker C: The brother.
• 34:31
  Speaker B: But you were an actual. You were like the pre Grammy Award show or something.
• 34:35
  Speaker C: I joined the band and then we won a Grammy. The first Grammy.
• 34:38
  Speaker A: No, man, he's talking about when you go out to the actual Grammy presentation thing. That, that, that. The. The.
• 34:44
  Speaker C: Right.
• 34:44
  Speaker A: The Roots Regional Roots Award is given out in the afternoon or something. Televised show.
• 34:53
  Speaker C: Right, right, right. We did both of those.
• 34:55
  Speaker A: Nice.
• 34:56
  Speaker C: Yeah, nice.
• 34:57
  Speaker A: Well, so. So you guys are working your ass off, but kind of felt like you doing the grind, making a lot of progress.
• 35:05
  Speaker C: Right? Well, I think. I think it was just. It was just the grind of it all.
• 35:08
  Speaker A: The fatigue.
• 35:09
  Speaker C: Yeah, right. Yeah. So there was a hiatus and I kind of panicked because I didn't have any Johnny Campos. Well, but I didn't have any material to like, hang my hat on. So I recorded a ambient pedal steel record with the drummer from Lost Bayou, Kirkland Middleton.
• 35:27
  Speaker A: Oh, that's when you. That's when you recorded that. The week's island record. Okay.
• 35:32
  Speaker C: Before I had anything, I was just like, let me just have material ready in case. And.
• 35:38
  Speaker A: And a beautiful record, really. And so I was listening to some of that today. And so you must be very Eno influenced. Big time, I'm guessing.
• 35:49
  Speaker C: Big time, yeah. That Apollo record with him and Daniel Lanois.
• 35:53
  Speaker A: Okay, perfect. Nice.
• 35:55
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 35:56
  Speaker A: And so. So you record that record that's kind.
• 35:59
  Speaker C: Of sits on a shelf more a digital shelf, as it were, and started showing it to some people. Actually, the gm I was working at Cure on Pharrette, and the gm, Turk Dietrich, he played in a band called Belong and Second Woman. And he. I showed it to him and he liked it. He mixed it better than what it was sounding. And Louis Michaud from Lost Body Ramblers put it out on his record label, Nuvo Electric, at the beginning of the Pandemic. So it's like this ambient, calming pedal steel record coming out in the Pandemic. Tool was like, oh, that's cool. It's just digital only. Whatever.
• 36:44
  Speaker A: Right.
• 36:45
  Speaker C: I didn't invest that much money into it. And then our old bass player from Lost Bayou, Corey Ritchie, is in LCD sound system.
• 36:54
  Speaker A: Oh, okay.
• 36:55
  Speaker C: And showed it to James Murphy. James Murphy liked it and was like, hey, we should put this out on DFA Records.
• 37:01
  Speaker A: Nice.
• 37:02
  Speaker C: So that happened. It took five years, but it eventually came out this past January.
• 37:07
  Speaker A: This past January. That's terrific, man. Yeah, Congratulations. That's wonderful.
• 37:12
  Speaker C: So we'll see what happens. I don't know. Whatever happens next, don't you miss the pandemic? In some ways. In some ways, we should bring it back.
• 37:22
  Speaker A: Bring it back. There may be another one.
• 37:24
  Speaker C: Yeah, I was about to say, I'm tired of once in a every hundred years storm happening every 10 years. I'm done with that.
• 37:33
  Speaker A: Sure, sure. Well, so you kind of skipped over an important chunk. I mean, of course, people can go back and listen to the Andre Michaux episode, you know, or the Louis Michaud episode that we did, but just, you know, those were, like, probably six and four years ago at this point, so. So lost by your Ramblers, too, since that is a big part of your story as well. So lost by you Ramblers after the. Or maybe during your hiatus, wind up winning your first Grammy.
• 38:02
  Speaker C: We get nominated while we're on hiatus, and then I think we played a couple shows after and then win. So then we. We have to keep going.
• 38:12
  Speaker A: Must have been. Must have been thrilling, huh?
• 38:14
  Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, not in a million years. I mean, my joke in grade school was my at my Grammy speech. I'm gonna say I want to thank Jesus, my mama, and Elvis, in that order, but, I mean, never in a million years did I think that I would actually.
• 38:31
  Speaker A: Now, did you thank those?
• 38:32
  Speaker C: No, I just thank my family.
• 38:34
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 38:35
  Speaker B: Where do you keep your Grammy?
• 38:37
  Speaker C: I got it on my record shelf.
• 38:39
  Speaker B: On your records?
• 38:39
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
• 38:41
  Speaker B: Nothing crazy, like on top of the fridge or above the toilet.
• 38:45
  Speaker C: Our. Our bass player, Brian, he keeps it on his toilet, I believe. I believe.
• 38:51
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 38:52
  Speaker A: Well, you getting into the Lost Bayou Ramblers, I was reading somewhere where you're saying when you first got in the band, you weren't really familiar with Cajun music. You weren't familiar with the way the thing moves where it's kind of elastic phrasing and the phrase is cued by the next musical phrase that you didn't even know what the cues were, so you kind of hid in your guitaristic. Your Velvet Underground inclinations of noise and.
• 39:23
  Speaker C: Yeah, basically, like, I. My first. My first gig with them was at NCIS New Orleans. My second gig was in Memphis at the Peabody hotel for, like, St. Jude something.
• 39:35
  Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. The hospital.
• 39:36
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
• 39:38
  Speaker B: It Was Danny Thomas. Man, that guy's crazy.
• 39:43
  Speaker C: It was four hours long, no rehearsal.
• 39:45
  Speaker B: Wow.
• 39:45
  Speaker C: So I just charted out all the songs on. And I just had charts on the ground, just 360 around where I was standing. And they would call a song and I would have to, like, scan around, and then they would go, like, all right, go. But they were all wrong because I was. It wasn't like they were following the exact one that was recorded or that live one. It was just like, you know, how the melody changes the chord? And I did not know that. So I was in it for, like, six months. And I know Andre's. I knew Andre's wife before I knew any of them. Joanna.
• 40:14
  Speaker A: Yeah, she's great.
• 40:15
  Speaker C: Yeah, she's great. Or at Tipitina's before the show, and she's like, how's it going, man? How you feeling? And I'm like, I don't know. I think I'm like, on the chopping block. I'm screwing up left and right. And she's like, well, you keep getting the call, right? I'm like, well, I guess I do keep getting the call. She's like, I think you're all right. It's like, okay.
• 40:35
  Speaker A: But I think really what was happening is you were infusing a whole kind of avant garde noise energy into what they already had. Very aggressive sound for that kind of band. I mean, that's why, I guess Spider Stacy, another former guest of ours early on, heard y' all and thought, wow, these guys remind me of the Pogues, man, with that same energy.
• 41:02
  Speaker C: So great. Yeah, I'd heard some Pogue songs, but never really got into them. But then once we started playing with them, I was like, this is incredible.
• 41:09
  Speaker B: Well, I think the Pogs was one of those bands that you couldn't capture them on vinyl.
• 41:17
  Speaker C: Sure.
• 41:18
  Speaker B: You had to see them live.
• 41:19
  Speaker C: Oh, okay.
• 41:20
  Speaker B: You know, just like, there are many bands like. Like, I grew up in, like, Fishbone.
• 41:24
  Speaker C: Right.
• 41:25
  Speaker B: Fishbone and Fishbone, you had to see live. Their music just didn't go over. It just did not transfer. And the Pogues were the same way.
• 41:33
  Speaker C: Right.
• 41:34
  Speaker B: Except for maybe some of the slower tunes. Tunes and stuff.
• 41:36
  Speaker C: Yeah, the ballads, but all.
• 41:37
  Speaker B: Yeah, but the other stuff is, like, you had to see them live.
• 41:40
  Speaker C: Wow.
• 41:41
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 41:42
  Speaker C: Well.
• 41:43
  Speaker A: But. But you got to. To back up Spider and. And I. Spider came and did a three or four song, kind of a mini set with the. The Clash tribute that I've played the past few years. And, man, when Spider gets up and starts singing in front of you, he.
• 42:00
  Speaker C: Knows what he's doing.
• 42:03
  Speaker A: You feel like it's 1979 again, man. Yeah. That energy is unmistakable. It's crazy.
• 42:09
  Speaker C: It's true. I believe it.
• 42:11
  Speaker A: Well, Johnny, I told you this was going to go by fast. It's. It's. And looking at our drinks, it's that time, man.
• 42:18
  Speaker B: Yeah, well, the nation knows what to do, Johnny. We'll be right back.
• 43:18
  Speaker D: Sam.
• 43:55
  Speaker A: And we're back. Back with Mr. Manny Chevrolet.
• 43:58
  Speaker B: I'm here still.
• 43:59
  Speaker A: I am. Renee Coleman. Still here. Back with our guest, Mr. Johnny Campos.
• 44:03
  Speaker C: Still here, boy.
• 44:04
  Speaker A: Good, good, good. All present and accounted for. Boy, the bar is getting. It's jumping in here. Well, you know.
• 44:10
  Speaker B: Yeah, there's some classy girls in here, too.
• 44:12
  Speaker A: There's a couple pieces of ass back there.
• 44:14
  Speaker B: I noticed they're so classy. They cover their mouth when they fart.
• 44:18
  Speaker A: Okay. Then they have some. Some. Some folks down at this end of the bar that I'm looking at that I don't look like they're straight out of the trailer park. So. Yeah, I guess they're balancing it out.
• 44:29
  Speaker B: But they're in town for wwe, probably.
• 44:34
  Speaker A: Yeah. Or. Or. Or the swingers convention. Oh, I think that might be it. Well, I failed to mention that it is Tiki Tuesday here at Snake and Jake's. Once again, they have.
• 44:46
  Speaker B: Maybe that's why it's so crowded.
• 44:47
  Speaker A: Could be. Could be the. The.
• 44:49
  Speaker B: What do they call that? Samba line. You know, how low can you go?
• 44:53
  Speaker A: That's a limbo.
• 44:54
  Speaker B: Limbo line. Yeah.
• 44:56
  Speaker A: I'm not sure. Sure, sure. Why not? Well, they.
• 44:58
  Speaker B: The tiki.
• 44:59
  Speaker A: The tiki torches. And. And again. And if you drive by, it's. It's. It's a real sight to behold. We'll take our picture in front of again. But it's the two cinder blocks separated by about 8ft on either side of the door that have bamboo tiki torches duct taped to them. It's all class, man.
• 45:18
  Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, the lighting is a Christmas light, so.
• 45:21
  Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Inside. Yeah. Right. Okay. So, yes, we are. What are we doing here? Oh, yeah. Reminding everybody that we are a listener supported operation. And as always, we have the PayPal and Venmo contributions which we should be pouring in. Unfortunately, we have none for this week, so we're still running on fumes. But for the future, we do have those links in the show. Notes of every show and the Facebook post about the show.
• 45:53
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 45:53
  Speaker A: Also follow us on social media, Instagram, Facebook and rate, review and subscribe to the show wherever you're listening to it. Give us five stars. Cost You. Nothing helps us a lot. Also, we have the link for the Troublemen podcast T shirts as well as the Patreon page. And we do have a handful of patrons who are supporting us week in, week out. I guess that's what we're running on tonight.
• 46:17
  Speaker B: And if you want help me out with my campaign, you can send me a few nickels and I. I'll. I'll try to get you a bumper sticker.
• 46:26
  Speaker A: Yes, yes. We had someone send a contribution to the bar.
• 46:30
  Speaker B: To the bar. What's the address here?
• 46:33
  Speaker A: You can look it up. Google Snake. And Jake's on Oak street.
• 46:36
  Speaker B: It's like 73 piece of avenue.
• 46:39
  Speaker A: That's 76 something. Oak Street, New Orleans, Louisiana. 70118 dump drive, but also garbage Circle. Okay.
• 46:51
  Speaker B: It's a cul de sac, basically.
• 46:53
  Speaker A: Also, I want to mention that I'll be out with Sunny Landreth for a few more dates at the end of this week. The show will come up out after that, but I just had to show off a little bit and. But the Iguanas will still be at the Carousel Lounge every Sunday down there at the beautiful Hotel Montley on through the end of September and possibly beyond if we play our cards right.
• 47:17
  Speaker C: I waited on Sonny like 20 years ago, and he gave me his card and I swiped it and found out his first name is Clyde.
• 47:24
  Speaker A: Yeah, he's salt of the earth, man. So talented. Sweetest guy in the world. Hilarious, too.
• 47:29
  Speaker C: Stolen a couple of slide techniques.
• 47:31
  Speaker A: He's got a lot of them, man. He's got slide techniques to burn. You could steal. You could steal many of them, and he'd still have so many. So many left. Yeah, yeah. No, he's a genius. Okay, well, I think we've covered everything there. Let's back to our guest, Mr. Johnny Campos. So all the time that you're playing with Lost Bayou Ramblers, you're still playing with your. Your original band, brass bet, huh? Are you guys still making records?
• 48:01
  Speaker C: Yeah, we put out a couple. We put out a couple records. The last one we put out was 2016, and then everybody in the band bought their. Bought homes in Lafayette, got pregnant, had babies, and now with each other. Well, in one case, yeah. Our drummer and bass player were married. I was the best band in their wedding.
• 48:26
  Speaker A: Oh, very nice.
• 48:27
  Speaker C: And the three of us are Carbon Poppies. So it's like within a band within a band.
• 48:33
  Speaker A: Right? So now, Carbon Poppies. I was listening to some of the music. It's got kind of a YOLA tango vibe a little bit. Am I. So far off.
• 48:41
  Speaker C: Big time, big time. Big fan. Big fan.
• 48:43
  Speaker A: Okay. I'm not far off.
• 48:45
  Speaker C: No, you're not.
• 48:46
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 48:47
  Speaker C: Actually, at the last. The. There's this band from California called La Luz that played at Siberia, and it was sold out. And I went outside to talk to somebody, and I saw two of the members from Yellow Tango getting out of a Uber. So I ran up to the. To the door person, and I was like, you have to let them in. I mean, this is Yola Tango. You have to. So I got them in, and then I was like, hey, you guys want anything to drink? And they're like, we're fine. Okay.
• 49:12
  Speaker A: All right. Straight edge, huh?
• 49:13
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 49:13
  Speaker B: So they think they're better than you?
• 49:15
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's.
• 49:17
  Speaker C: Well, they are. They're Yellow Tango, but. Yeah. Curtain.
• 49:23
  Speaker B: Puppies now. Are you married?
• 49:24
  Speaker A: Married?
• 49:26
  Speaker C: No, we're not married. Yeah, like. Like 15, 16 years.
• 49:29
  Speaker A: Oh, nice.
• 49:30
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 49:31
  Speaker B: You're gonna make her an honest woman, man.
• 49:33
  Speaker C: She doesn't want to be an honest one.
• 49:34
  Speaker B: Really?
• 49:34
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 49:35
  Speaker A: Some people like that.
• 49:36
  Speaker B: Yeah, really. So you mind. You don't mind dating a.
• 49:41
  Speaker C: No, she doesn't sell her body on the street. She's a ICU night nurse.
• 49:46
  Speaker B: Oh, night nurse.
• 49:47
  Speaker C: Yeah, she's working right now.
• 49:48
  Speaker A: I like that.
• 49:50
  Speaker B: What does she do with those average.
• 49:52
  Speaker C: She. She sticks with the living.
• 49:54
  Speaker B: Oh, okay.
• 49:55
  Speaker A: Nice, nice. Oh, it's. Got it. You got all the answers, don't you?
• 49:59
  Speaker B: Yeah, sounds like it.
• 50:01
  Speaker C: I'm trying.
• 50:01
  Speaker A: Sure, sure, sure. So, well, something I wanted to talk about in. In reference to these. These groups, these pop groups that you were in. Is there like a Lafayette experimental pop scene? Is that. Is that much of a thing that you guys came out of?
• 50:18
  Speaker C: It comes in waves. I think there's. There's a wave happening right now with the kids that are, like, in their, like, mid to late 20s. Like, bands like Cashier Speech Fuzz. I mean. Yeah, these are just Lafayette bands that will come play New Orleans every now and then.
• 50:35
  Speaker A: But does that kind of grow out of UL University?
• 50:40
  Speaker C: Not even. I mean, some. Somewhat. But I mean, it's just, you know. You know, scenes kind of, like, they. They'll have their heyday, and then, like, people move away or.
• 50:49
  Speaker A: Sure.
• 50:50
  Speaker C: Somebody has to, like, actually get a job or something.
• 50:52
  Speaker A: Clubs pop up, that. That foster that kind of thing, and then. Then they fall.
• 50:57
  Speaker B: But it's a lot easier these days because of the networking and social stuff.
• 51:02
  Speaker C: Sure.
• 51:02
  Speaker B: That you can be a band in a small town.
• 51:05
  Speaker C: Sure.
• 51:05
  Speaker B: And get noticed somewhere else.
• 51:07
  Speaker C: Sure, yeah. Yeah. I mean, that. That kind of Happened to the band. Cashier. I don't know if you know who Frank Ocean is. Frank.
• 51:16
  Speaker B: Impressionist.
• 51:17
  Speaker C: No. Oh, he plays himself.
• 51:19
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 51:20
  Speaker A: He did that song, Caribbean Queen. Billy Ocean.
• 51:24
  Speaker C: That's really.
• 51:25
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
• 51:26
  Speaker B: Oh, what was the other one you were talking about? Frank Gorshin.
• 51:29
  Speaker C: No.
• 51:30
  Speaker B: The Riddler. Batman.
• 51:33
  Speaker C: No, no, no, no. Yes, I'm aware.
• 51:35
  Speaker B: I wrote a ride was in a Disneyland one as a kid. Yeah, he was right. Him and his wife were right in front of me and my mom.
• 51:41
  Speaker C: That's cool.
• 51:42
  Speaker B: I think it was Pirates of the Caribbean.
• 51:44
  Speaker C: That's cool.
• 51:45
  Speaker B: Either that it was Dumbo. I can't remember.
• 51:48
  Speaker A: All right.
• 51:48
  Speaker C: Was he nice?
• 51:48
  Speaker B: I was so high.
• 51:49
  Speaker C: Oh. As a kid?
• 51:50
  Speaker B: Yeah. He's a good guy, frankly.
• 51:54
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 51:55
  Speaker B: I met Don Adams once. He was an.
• 51:58
  Speaker A: Really?
• 51:59
  Speaker C: That's too bad.
• 52:00
  Speaker B: He was just an angry guy.
• 52:01
  Speaker A: What about Caesar Romero? He was. He's one of those.
• 52:04
  Speaker B: He was my gardener. Seems like he was for the children.
• 52:10
  Speaker A: Nice. Nice.
• 52:11
  Speaker B: He was a good guy.
• 52:12
  Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 52:13
  Speaker B: You know, and he was in Batman too, wasn't he?
• 52:16
  Speaker A: Yeah, he was the Joker.
• 52:17
  Speaker B: Joker, yes. Yeah. And who was Batman? Bert Wayne.
• 52:22
  Speaker C: No, Adam West.
• 52:24
  Speaker B: Adam west, yeah. Burt Wayne Was Robin.
• 52:27
  Speaker C: Bert.
• 52:27
  Speaker A: Bruce Wayne.
• 52:28
  Speaker B: Bruce Wayne. No, no, no.
• 52:30
  Speaker A: Ward. Yes. There it is.
• 52:33
  Speaker B: Now, who played the butler on the TV Troubled nation. Type in. Chime in on this right now. Free bumper sticker. Can never tell who who played the butler without googling it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 52:46
  Speaker A: No, that's. No, yeah. Don't, don't look it up. That's cheating.
• 52:49
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 52:50
  Speaker A: You guys are very busy now. I, I, I noticed like Louis Misho, he's busier. He's so busy. No, no. Now, do you see how hard he works and feel lazy and does it kick you into gear? Because it seems like it would to me. It's like, fuck, man, I gotta get up and do something.
• 53:09
  Speaker C: I mean, yes and no. I'm a part of a lot of those busyness.
• 53:12
  Speaker A: You are. You are. He drags you in. I can see that. Yeah.
• 53:16
  Speaker C: But I mean, I have it again. I have a day job, so that's. Yeah. So I'm either.
• 53:21
  Speaker A: You're double busy.
• 53:22
  Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. I was about to say, people ask, how's it going? And it's just like, well, it's shifts and shows, even shifts and playing a show. Or I'm working a shift and tonight I just happen to be off.
• 53:30
  Speaker A: Right, right. Fortunately. Or else we would be out without a guest.
• 53:34
  Speaker C: There you go.
• 53:35
  Speaker A: Going back to that. One of his current side projects, Louis Michaud. Swamp Magic.
• 53:40
  Speaker C: Swamp Magic.
• 53:40
  Speaker A: Very cool band, man.
• 53:42
  Speaker C: Oh, very. It's very, very fun. He put out a solo record last year, and every now and then I would get a call to play, like, pedal steel with him, and it would only be like a couple songs at the end, and then eventually, like, it just became the whole set.
• 53:58
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 53:58
  Speaker C: And I was very much on charts for that one. But then the last couple shows, I haven't. I've just been like, I'm just gonna use my ears and so far, so good. I think we're gonna be getting into the studio next month.
• 54:09
  Speaker B: Cool.
• 54:10
  Speaker C: So there might be another record down the pike.
• 54:11
  Speaker A: Outstanding.
• 54:12
  Speaker C: Keep your eyes out.
• 54:13
  Speaker A: Right on, man.
• 54:14
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 54:15
  Speaker A: That's a nice, tight group of.
• 54:16
  Speaker B: Very.
• 54:16
  Speaker A: Again, kind of experimental.
• 54:18
  Speaker C: Very experimental.
• 54:19
  Speaker A: Yeah. Okay.
• 54:20
  Speaker C: Yeah. I like to. I have a cello bow and I bow the low B string on my steel. So it's like kind of sounds like a cello.
• 54:28
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 54:29
  Speaker C: So that's fine. And just loop it. Layers, echo, delay.
• 54:34
  Speaker A: And that's part of. Not. Besides even. You like the bass player in Lost Bayou Ramblers.
• 54:41
  Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Brian.
• 54:42
  Speaker A: Brian Weber.
• 54:43
  Speaker C: Correct.
• 54:44
  Speaker A: Uses like pads and stuff. Samples instead of playing bass sometimes.
• 54:49
  Speaker C: Exactly.
• 54:50
  Speaker A: And all those non traditional sounds are so much a part of Lost Bayou Ramblers these days.
• 54:56
  Speaker C: Big time. Yeah. I guess the. The record that got us the Grammy was the. The first Grammy was we started using 808s.
• 55:04
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 55:05
  Speaker C: Because, I mean, essentially, I think it just like Louie and Corey boiled it down to, like, Cajun music is just dance music. So why wouldn't 808s work?
• 55:15
  Speaker A: Sure.
• 55:15
  Speaker B: What is an 808?
• 55:16
  Speaker C: It's like a. It's a sampled bass, like drum machine. You would understand. You'd know it if you heard it. It's like.
• 55:23
  Speaker A: It's like a lot of the. The first rap stuff, you know.
• 55:26
  Speaker B: So they do that with Cajun music.
• 55:28
  Speaker C: What's that?
• 55:29
  Speaker B: They do that with your band.
• 55:30
  Speaker C: We do that in. In Lost Bayou and in Louis Micho and Swan Badger.
• 55:35
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 55:36
  Speaker C: So. Yeah.
• 55:36
  Speaker B: So you're faking it.
• 55:37
  Speaker C: Yes, trying to.
• 55:39
  Speaker B: And you win awards for faking it.
• 55:41
  Speaker C: Who doesn't?
• 55:43
  Speaker A: There you go. He's got all the answers. Quick comebacks. Well. Well, the second Grammy that y' all won was quite different from that in that you. You partnered with the Louisiana Philharmonic Orchestra.
• 55:56
  Speaker C: Nuts.
• 55:56
  Speaker A: And you had. And. And this was really for. Done for a performance. Performance that you were.
• 56:02
  Speaker C: Right.
• 56:02
  Speaker A: You were what? Commissioned to do right.
• 56:05
  Speaker C: At the Orpheum.
• 56:06
  Speaker A: Jay Weigel, great arranger, score writer, you know, great musician. Wrote arrangements on you for the Entire orchestra for Lost by youy Ramblers repertoire.
• 56:20
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 56:20
  Speaker A: And did a performance. And it was recorded.
• 56:22
  Speaker C: It was recorded.
• 56:23
  Speaker A: And wound up winning your second Grammy last year.
• 56:27
  Speaker C: Yes, that's true. And I was doing Dry January at the time, so I was really shaking. Yeah, really shaking.
• 56:33
  Speaker A: As opposed to Stirred. Yeah, not Stirred.
• 56:39
  Speaker C: Yeah, I was. Because in classical music, you can't really screw up. There's no, like, blurring lines.
• 56:44
  Speaker B: Right.
• 56:45
  Speaker C: You have to play it. Right.
• 56:46
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 56:47
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 56:48
  Speaker A: Must have worked out. It seems like, very good. But then again, this. This week's island project, so that's. That's been reissued now on a bigger label. And tell us about that record to give us some background on. But besides the way you did it, like, what was the. The organizing concept behind it? What's.
• 57:11
  Speaker C: Well, it's named Droast, because droast is a term that's like a painting within a painting within a painting within a painting or a play within a play within a play within a play. So it's just like this looped. I was just thinking like, oh, this is just a bunch of loops.
• 57:26
  Speaker A: Kind of an Escher quality.
• 57:27
  Speaker C: Escher quality, but, you know, with pedal steel and delay. I've tried to play it out at bars. It doesn't work because people are like, when's the band start? Because it just sounds like ambience.
• 57:42
  Speaker A: Doesn't translate.
• 57:43
  Speaker C: It doesn't translate. I was able to. The I.
• 57:45
  Speaker A: A doesn't have a beat. You can't dance to it.
• 57:48
  Speaker C: Exactly.
• 57:49
  Speaker B: Now there are lyrics.
• 57:50
  Speaker C: No lyrics.
• 57:51
  Speaker B: No lyrics.
• 57:52
  Speaker C: Just pedal steel.
• 57:53
  Speaker B: Oh, Gotcha. And Lost Bayou Ramblers. Are there lyrics in that band?
• 57:58
  Speaker C: There are French lyrics. There's some English lyrics, but there's mostly French.
• 58:01
  Speaker B: What's going on up there?
• 58:03
  Speaker A: It's the. The. The Christmas lights are starting to come down. I. I re taped them when I got here, but, you know, that tape scene better do days. It's gorilla tape, but it's not the best whole place. Yeah, well, so have we.
• 58:16
  Speaker C: It's a busy night. There's a lot of people.
• 58:18
  Speaker A: It is. It's jumping in here, man.
• 58:20
  Speaker C: It's a deal. Yeah, but. Yeah, just trying to figure out a. A project that would, I don't know, work in some way. It was all very much like, let's just see what happens off the cuff. Off the cuff.
• 58:32
  Speaker A: Right, right, right.
• 58:33
  Speaker C: Completely.
• 58:33
  Speaker A: And. Well, it's interesting when you do projects like that. It's like, I don't know, really have a plan for this. I'm just gonna start doing some things and see where it leads me. And then in hindsight you go, oh, it has this thing. It's like a self organizing quality to it.
• 58:50
  Speaker C: Well, yeah, it's just me, so it's very easy to just like pop up anywhere. I did a release, record release at the hotel, Peter and Paul with like great visuals. It was incredible. I don't know what's gonna happen, but hopefully somebody's going to want pay me to score a movie or something.
• 59:07
  Speaker A: That would be perfect.
• 59:08
  Speaker C: That would be great. I could do it at my house.
• 59:09
  Speaker A: Yes. Now. And they can't say that you're wrong because it's you. It's you make all the. You're the, you're the final arbiter. Well, you know, the whole Eno ethic of that, you know, we're not going for virtuosity here.
• 59:25
  Speaker C: Right.
• 59:25
  Speaker A: We're going for art.
• 59:26
  Speaker C: Right. Well, his whole thing was judging like he was like. It was taste, it wasn't like. Sure, that's a virtuoso, that's great. But like these filters on this synth, do I like them or do not like them? It doesn't have to be about like the actual harmony. It's like, what is it? The overall sound. Do I like it or do I not like it?
• 59:49
  Speaker A: Right.
• 59:49
  Speaker C: And it's just like, oh, that's an interesting ethos. I can get into that.
• 59:53
  Speaker A: And that's really what separates the, the, the men from the boys is how good is your taste, how accurate or how intuitive or, you know.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker C: Sure. The, the intangible. Yeah.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker A: Yes.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker C: Yeah, agreed.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker A: That's where it's at, Johnny.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker C: I mean, I'm trying, you know.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker A: I know you're doing great.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker C: Making margaritas along the way.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker A: Okay, sure.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker B: Now, if I went to your restaurant, could you cop me a couple of cocktails? For you?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker C: Of course.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker C: I have that power. Sure. Yeah.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker A: All right.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker B: When do you work again?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker C: I don't have regular hours.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker B: Oh, you don't?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker C: No.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker A: Okay, maybe you guys can.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker B: That's a good answer.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker A: Maybe you guys could talk about this off air. Make a date.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker C: Make a date now.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker B: What about Giorgio Moroto? He a Morota?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker C: I'm not sure. I'm not familiar.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker B: You're not Georgia Morota? You're not.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker C: I'm not familiar.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker B: Brian Eno is his biggest fan.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker C: Oh, is he?
• 1:00:50
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker C: Where does he live?
• 1:00:53
  Speaker B: He's. He did the Donna Summer records.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker C: Okay.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker B: You never heard of him?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker A: The Sequencers?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker B: Was. I heard this story. Eno was with Bowie in the studio.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker C: Sure.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker B: And he heard Donna Summers track that Moroto did, and he heard this, and he said to Bowie, he goes, we need to do this.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker C: Nice.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker B: We need to do this. And he did. He did the soundtrack for American Gigolo.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker C: Okay.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker B: All those. You never heard of him?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker C: Never heard of him.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker A: Wow.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker C: Haven't been there yet.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker B: Wow.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker A: Yeah, no, it's. It's something you.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker C: You.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker A: You'll dig it.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker C: I'll get there.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker A: Work your way back, you know.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker C: Sure.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker A: Well, you know. You know, you're. You're much too young to know about Neil Young, but you do. So. I mean, you're not too young. I mean, I know about Bach and, you know, he wasn't around when I was a kid, so, you know. But many young people don't have any sense of curiosity, certainly about anything that came before them.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker C: Oh, no. I. I'm. I may not look like it, but I'm an avid runner and every time I run, I listen to a record I've never heard before. So that's probably going to be one of the next ones.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker A: I saw a video of you running right in. In the. In the. And now I noticed you have a very upright running stance.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker C: Yeah, my girlfriend said the same thing.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker A: Really?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker C: I didn't even. You don't have to.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker A: Like, I couldn't run that. That straight up and down like you do.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker C: I try to have good form, but I don't think about it, I guess.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker A: I don't know that that's bad form. I don't. You know, I don't run at all unless someone's chasing me. Fair now. You should see Manny run. It's. He is as funny as Manny is. Is here. Yeah, he has the same. He's on his. Tik Tok has comedy running. No, he doesn't. Doesn't post this. It's not for public consumption.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker B: You see me running.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker A: Well, you know, in certain roles, like when we were doing the movie, you know, you did a little short, not a long run, not like a quarter mile or anything, but like. Oh, yeah, 50ft or 20ft. You know, it's. You have the comedy run.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker B: Comedy is the hardest thing ever to do.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker C: Yeah, that. Do it.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker B: Well, you guys. You musicians, you think it's tough?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker C: Yeah, No, I mean, we just do the same thing over and over.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker B: Acting, right?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker A: Well, you know, dramas again. People think performing music is. You're so exposed and it's like. Well, in a sense, we are, but we all also have the music and we have the instruments in the drugs and the drugs in. In acting, and there's nowhere to hide in Acting.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker B: Well, no, acting. This place is to hide. But stand up, there's nowhere I would never stand up. There's no place to hide. Acting, you can hide.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker B: You know, you can cover your. You know, if you. If you don't know how to do the scene right, you can. You can cover yourself, you know, and the director will either say, nah, it's not working right.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker C: I mean, witty banter between songs is hard enough.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker B: Yeah, there you go.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker A: It's usually a bad idea, but you.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker B: Always know what city you're in, right? Yeah, there you go.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker A: But you often don't know what day it is because every day feels like it's Saturday night.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker C: Right. You just have to say it out loud a couple times that day, throughout the day. Today is.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker B: I remember when my band. When I had a band, I used to always say, no matter where we played, no matter what town, I would say, who's gonna. Me tonight, man, I tell you, I got laid a lot.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker C: Nice. Shotgun.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker A: Shotgun, yeah.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker B: Fire hose swingers convention.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker C: Sure, sure, sure.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker B: TB people. Two belly people.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker A: Members only tonight.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Good times.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The best. So. So what's next for a young Johnny Campos?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker C: Oh, let's see.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker B: A marathon. You're running a marathon?
• 1:04:44
  Speaker C: No, just run for me. I don't need to do that.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker B: Really?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker C: Yeah. I don't need to wake up that early to run for anybody else. Now, what's.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker A: What are your favorite Neil Young records? How tough? How much do you like Tonight's the Night?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker C: Oh, that's. I'm in the ditch, guy all the way.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker A: Yeah, me too.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker C: On the beach. Love Tonight's tonight.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker A: Love.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker C: American stars and bars, I want to say. Just keeps creeping on in there on my rotation, but, yeah, those are. Those are my prime.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker A: Did you see Neil with Crazy Horse at Jazz Fest?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker C: I did. I played that morning with Kristen Diable at the Lagnop stage and was able to, like, stay. So it was just like.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker B: Wasn't that a revelation that night, too?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker C: No, I didn't know they were out and about.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, so he's got a son who's.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker C: Very ill. That's correct. Zeke, I want to say his name is Now.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker A: Now, in that version of Crazy Horse, they have the singer's son.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker B: Scatman Crothers.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker A: You're getting. You're very close. Willie Nelson's son.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker B: Right, right, right.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker A: Who plays great. Well, same era. Luke Nelson plays so great.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker A: And plays very much.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker B: Remember him, Coach?
• 1:06:08
  Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Christy Nelson. I love Coach.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker B: I love that show.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker C: Love that show.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker B: Who played the other coach? Dick Van Dyke's brother, Jerry Van Dyke. Van Dyke, still alive. He is celebrating his hundredth birthday.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker A: Yeah, no, he's still alive. And he was dancing. He was video dancing recently.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker C: He's got to be vegan, like Paul McCartney.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker B: He lives in Arizona and Malibu.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker C: Okay.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker A: Oh, man.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker B: He lives in both places.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker A: He's. He's a alcoholic who's been dry for about 50 years. More than that. 70 years or something. Again, he's almost 100 years old. Old.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker B: Well, you get that age. Why? You know, I. I would go back.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker A: Go back?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker C: I would start doing heroin.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker B: Tar heroin. Have a vodka.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker A: Sure. Why not?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker B: Why not?
• 1:06:59
  Speaker C: Why not?
• 1:06:59
  Speaker B: You're 100 years old.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker A: Yeah. What are you saving it for?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Your days are numbered.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker A: You know, Go out with it.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker B: But then again, Dick Van Dyke, he.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker C: Might be writing 10. Yeah.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker B: Yeah. Who knows? That guy's crazy.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker A: You can outlive us.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker C: The next thing that's happening is me and the bass player for Lost Bayou, Brian Weber.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker A: Brian Webber. Yeah.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker C: Shakespeare and the Blues. We have a. We're gonna put out a cassette.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker A: A cassette.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker C: August 15th. It's a live show. Traffic Court live show we played and recorded last year at Ace Hotel, where he has, like. He's got beats, I've got ambient. And it's called.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker B: Where can we get this Cassette?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker C: We're gonna. We're gonna be posting QR codes all over the city.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker B: Oh, it's a mail order.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker A: Oh, you guys could be like. Well, I was gonna say you could be like suicide, but without Alan Vega.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker C: Yeah, we need the hype, man.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker A: Need the Alan Vega part.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker C: Yeah, definitely. Definitely. But, yeah, that's the next thing coming out, and then this. I don't know what's gonna happen with the Louie and Swamp Magic records or recordings happening.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker B: I see another Grammy in your.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, man.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker C: Your lips do. Whoever needs to hear it.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker A: Got momentum going.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker C: Oh, Brass Bed's going to put out another single next month.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker C: I think on the 15th as well. So.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker A: So. So this. This single that you just put out, Ready to Run.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker C: Ready to Run.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker A: You're singing.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker C: That I'm singing on. Oh, thank you so much.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker A: Very, very sweet sound. You know, it's. I love that kind of music. You know, it's kind of Beach Boys.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker C: Heavily influenced. Heavily influenced by Beach Boys, 70s records, big time. But that song I wrote, like, 10 years ago about a buddy who was going through a terrible, terrible marriage, and it's called Ready to Run, and it's about just, like, get out of this Thing, man. Yeah, he eventually did, and he's all good now. But. Yeah. Yeah. So I just like. Like to put the disclaimer out there. This is not about my girlfriend.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker B: Don't you think Supertramp is one of the worst bands from the 70s ever? I can't stand that.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker C: Breakfast in America is so good.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker B: Really? You think so?
• 1:09:12
  Speaker C: At least side A. Oh, God, it's so well crafted.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker B: That record turned me on to jogging.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker C: It did?
• 1:09:21
  Speaker B: Yeah. I had to just run away from it. Out of there. Horrible. Just horrible. But it might be because his voice is awful.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker C: It might.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker B: Because of Aaron Neville.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker A: That voice is tough. The voice is tough to. Not Aaron. I love Aaron Neville's voice, but that. But the super guys, it's.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker C: It might be because of P.T. anderson. There's a lot of Super Tramp in Magnolia, right? There's one of the. There's a PT Movie. Yeah. In one of the PT Anderson movies. There's a lot of Super Tramp. I'm like, into it. Sorry. Sorry.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker B: That's why you took up jogging. Okay.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker C: Oh, I took up jogging to get.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker B: Away from your girlfriend?
• 1:09:59
  Speaker C: No, on tour. I was in somewhere in South Dakota.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker B: And that's a hell of a gig.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker C: Exactly. Sioux Falls. Sioux Falls. And it was me. It was us in another band. We got a case of beer, like, play the. The show. Nobody was there. Drank a case of beer in a hotel room. There was like nine dudes in a hotel room passed out. One of the guys steps on my head as he's trying to leave, like, get out of the room at six in the morning. And I'm like, pat, what the hell are you doing, man? It's like, I'm going for a run. It's like, what, Are you kidding me? I'm so hungover. He's like, it's the best time to, like, go for. And you get to see the city that you're in. You get to like, you know, it's the best time to get in shape. I was like, okay, well. And I started running.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker A: Really?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker A: So you. You. You'll be hung over and still get.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker C: Up and run sometimes. Yeah. It's a great way to burn a hangover off. Yeah.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker B: You had no coffee, no nothing? Coffee helps before the run.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker B: Okay. Then you get the trots after the runs.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker C: I mean, I hope not. It's just.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker A: Yeah, that's just a prayer recipe for.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker B: Kind of food is in South Dakota.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker C: Oh, we had, like, freezer pizzas.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker A: Yeah, it's.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker C: It's.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker A: It's slim pickings Slim Pickens.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker C: That was the only time I've ever been in South Dakota.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker C: Not to despair.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker B: On that note.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I was gonna say my final question is gonna be your expectations getting into the. The music business compared to your actual experience. What were you thinking when you. When you made the decision to go in whole hog? You thought, I will be able to play music.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker C: Right.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker A: And that's all I'm.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. That's the dream. I mean, I'm still. I'm closer than I've ever been, but I'm still. It's still like one of those, like, I don't know if it's because my father was an immigrant, but you have to have a job, but there's no not having a job. So, like, I don't know, I thought that it would just be like a. You know, you go to undergrad, then you go to grad, Then you get your doctorate. It's like you just do the steps and things will just happen and things have happened, but it's not like you have to have a good report card to get onto a tour bus to get like millions of dollars in record sales.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker A: And you can't predict that. I try to explain to people when they look at my career, so. And I say you have no control over how successful you become in the music business. All you have control over is whether you're going to be a musician.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker C: Right. When you're going to show up, be on time and.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker A: And if you are playing music and in the music business and that's what you want to do, you've made it. That's. That's all, you know, Totally. That's all I ever. That's all. All the expectations I ever had. So. Anything else is gravy.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker C: Sure, sure. That's what, like, anybody that's like, oh, you still have a. You still work. I was like, well, yeah, the Grammy doesn't come with a cash prize. I get to say, like somebody. We could say that this happened. I have this huge honor. This is great. But it doesn't get me any more, like rent or electricity.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker B: Well, that's because awards are. It turns out, all those Oscar shows, Emmys and Grammys.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker C: It's a fun party. It's a fun party trip.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker A: It's a. It's a. It's a lovely recognition.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker C: Sure.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker A: Well, Johnny, what a fun episode. I hope it's been everything. I hope that. That this has been everything you expected and more. Excellent. Outstanding.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker B: You're buying the next round, right?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker C: Okay, cool.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker A: So so everybody, everyone check out the Weeks Island Drost record. Sure, it's out there. We'll put the. The. The link in the show. Notes to. To the records and all of your mini bands. And everybody check that out. And yes, we have two stickers for you. One stick and one to save.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker C: Sure.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker A: A pack rat like me, and I'm guessing you are somewhat.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker C: My girlfriend's trying to stop it.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker A: Sure. Well, she can give it her best shot. I dare you. And on that note, we'll say trouble never ends.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker B: But hey man. Struggle continues. Good night.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker A: Vote Manny Chevrolet.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker D: Maybe if I run a while you can take me out via train.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker C: Fun.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker D: Is fun to scrap the scenes Funny paper hats with streams and streams.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker B: It.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker D: Feels good to taken out at 4am Hardly seems to me like notes on.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker A: D.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker D: It feels good to run again I asked too much could you please just hold my hand on account of trying? It feels good to run I'm ready to run run I'm ready to run I'm ready to run from you, from.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker B: The you.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker D: From you from you from Maybe if we're done a while we can pick it up without straight it feels good too Some of the songs we always sung maybe even with a.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker B: Crease of age.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker D: It feels good to you what can I say to you to change your mind? To think that I'm worth saving.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker A: It.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker D: Feels good too but of course it's been too long we can't just hold our hands on account of craving it feels good to run Run I'm ready to run I'm ready to run I'm ready to run from you, from you, from you from you.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker A: You.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker D: From you from you from you from you from.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker A: You.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker D: From you from you.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker A: From.