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- 0:01Welcome to Talking FACS, what you need to know about family,
- 0:04food, finance, and fitness.
- 0:07This nationally recognized, award-winning podcast is hosted by the University
- 0:12of Kentucky Family and Consumer Sciences Extension Program.
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- 0:22Welcome to Talking FACS, where we share research-based information to help
- 0:27improve the quality of life for Kentuckians. I'm Alex Elswick.
- 0:31I'm an assistant professor and extension specialist for substance use prevention and recovery.
- 0:35I'm a frequent guest on the Talking FACs podcast, but today I'm excited to
- 0:40serve as a guest host and have a guest expert with me.
- 0:44Speaking of our expertise, we're speaking today from our personal areas of expertise
- 0:49and our views do not represent the official views of the University of Kentucky.
- 0:53Speaking of experts, I'm excited to have with me today Alex Johansson.
- 0:58Alex is an intern with the UK Harm Reduction Hub, a community service that brings
- 1:03together a team of researchers, healthcare providers, and harm reductionists
- 1:07to provide early insights into Kentucky's street drug supply by analyzing the
- 1:11residue in used syringes.
- 1:13Alex, good morning. Thanks for being here.
- 1:16Good morning. Thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited to talk with you today. Absolutely.
- 1:20So we're talking about harm reduction and a somewhat newer strategy called syringe residue testing.
- 1:27So to start us off, what do we mean when we say harm reduction?
- 1:31So the term harm reduction is exactly what it sounds like.
- 1:34Its main goal is really to reduce any harms or consequences associated with
- 1:39so-called risky behaviors. So in our case, using drugs.
- 1:42But harm reduction really is just focusing on increasing access to services
- 1:47and resources and serving the community with that.
- 1:51Okay. And so harm reduction is something that, as you kind of implied,
- 1:54is a concept that applies both to substance use, but also to other kinds of risky behaviors.
- 2:00Can you give us a few examples of harm reduction, kind of just in real world
- 2:04examples of harm reduction?
- 2:06Yeah, exactly. So it's something that's all in the world around us.
- 2:09We just don't think about it too much because it's kind of common practice.
- 2:12So one thing would be seatbelts, right? If you're driving, it's actually required
- 2:16by law to wear a seatbelt, and that's just to reduce any potential harms associated
- 2:20with driving or getting in an accident.
- 2:23The same is true for wearing a helmet if you're riding a bike or putting on
- 2:27sunscreen before you go to the beach.
- 2:29So it's really just trying to protect people at the end of the day.
- 2:33I love the example of seatbelts, and sometimes I like to give the example of
- 2:37speed limits. And I tell people that I mostly observe those as a way to engage
- 2:42in harm reduction. Great, great examples.
- 2:45So what would harm reduction look like as a practice applied to substance use
- 2:50and substance use disorders?
- 2:52So for substance use, it typically takes the form of maybe distributing overdose
- 2:57reversal medications, things like naloxone, also called Narcan.
- 3:01Another example would be syringe exchanges where people can go and get unused syringes.
- 3:08And another would be syringe residue testing, which is what we're here to talk about today.
- 3:13Yeah. And I think when most people think of harm reduction, if they're familiar
- 3:17with it, they most immediately think of some of those harm reduction practices
- 3:22you mentioned, overdose reversal medications or.
- 3:26You know, syringe service programs, things like that. But harm reduction is
- 3:30also kind of a philosophy.
- 3:32Can you share what that looks like, what that means?
- 3:35Absolutely. So we kind of talked about what harm reduction looks like in practice,
- 3:39but as a philosophy, it's really just grounded in respect, dignity,
- 3:43and the belief that people deserve care and support at any or all stages of their life.
- 3:48So it's really about making informed decisions and just helping people promote
- 3:52well-being, both at the personal and the community level.
- 3:54Yes. And I think one of the things I've always appreciated about harm reduction
- 3:58as a philosophy is that it accepts drug use as a reality.
- 4:02And so rather than deny it or condemn it, it accepts that drug use is a part
- 4:07of our world. It always has been. It always will be.
- 4:10And so rather than deny it, we acknowledge the reality and we try to work within
- 4:14that frame to try to reduce harm. Exactly.
- 4:16So, okay. So syringe residue testing, let's get to the topic of the day.
- 4:20So this is one example of a harm reduction practice in action.
- 4:24What is syringe residue testing and how does it work?
- 4:28Yeah, in its simplest form, syringe residue testing uses what we call kind of
- 4:31a trash to treasure approach.
- 4:33So these services collect these syringes from the community and they test the
- 4:37residue in those syringes to get information about what's in the drug supply
- 4:41at any given point in time for a specific geographic area.
- 4:45And what exactly is being tested? So we specifically test the trace amounts
- 4:50of the drug that are left in the syringe, we swab it, and then we put it through
- 4:55a bunch of chemical analyses, and it tells us what the syringe contained.
- 5:01Okay. And this is a form of drug checking. Are there other forms of drug checking in Kentucky?
- 5:08Yes, there are other forms of drug checking. A really common example is single-use
- 5:12drug test strips. It's kind of like a pregnancy test or a COVID test strip.
- 5:16So you can get them from health departments and similar harm reduction agencies.
- 5:20But for different drugs or additives, which we'll talk about shortly,
- 5:23you basically just take a little bit of the drug, put it in some water,
- 5:27and then dip the strip in there and it'll tell you if the drug of interest is
- 5:32present or absent in your kids.
- 5:35This is really interesting. We hear quite a bit in the media and the news about
- 5:41adulterants and additives.
- 5:42We've certainly seen a lot about the opioid epidemic and the overdose epidemic more specifically.
- 5:48So, I mean, I think on some level it's immediately clear why this is valuable
- 5:52information, but what are some of the substances that you're finding in Kentucky communities?
- 5:58Yeah, so like you said, it's really interesting because this allows us to track
- 6:01patterns of drug use, you know, across Kentucky.
- 6:04It also, in addition to just drugs that you would traditionally expect to see
- 6:08in the supply, it allows us to detect additives.
- 6:11And additives are really just other substances that have been introduced to
- 6:15the supply. Some of them are contaminants, and they can increase the risk for serious health harms.
- 6:21So in Kentucky specifically, we're testing in five counties right now.
- 6:25So we have partnerships with local harm reduction agencies in Fayette,
- 6:29Jefferson, Jessamine, Perry, and Rowan counties.
- 6:32So in February of 2026, this past month, the two most common substances that
- 6:38we found across Kentucky were fentanyl and methamphetamine.
- 6:40About 50% of all the syringes that we tested contained fentanyl and methamphetamine,
- 6:45or not combined, but they had fentanyl and methamphetamine.
- 6:50So those are kind of the regional trends. This can vary county to county.
- 6:53So in Rowan County this past month, about 91% of the syringes contained meth,
- 6:59whereas only 36% in Jefferson County had meth.
- 7:02And similarly, about 60% of syringes from Fayette or Jefferson counties had
- 7:06fentanyl, but only 19% in Perry County had fentanyl. So again,
- 7:10there's some variance geographically, but those are the two most common things that we saw.
- 7:15And then in terms of additives, there's been a lot of metatomidine in the supply right now.
- 7:19For those of you who aren't familiar, metatomidine is a veterinary anesthetic
- 7:24or tranquilizer that's been getting a lot more media attention recently due
- 7:28to its harmful side effects.
- 7:30And in Jefferson County specifically, we saw the most, so there were about 24% of the syringes.
- 7:35So I think to underscore, these additives in many cases, or in most cases perhaps,
- 7:41are substances that people don't realize that they're taking. Exactly, it's right.
- 7:47It's very hard to detect them. You can't really smell them or taste them or
- 7:52see them, so you need to have some sort of test, whether that's a single-use
- 7:56test strip or something like syringe residue testing to determine what's present.
- 8:01And without syringe residue testing, we tend to rely on things like either overdose
- 8:08toxicologies, which clearly by their very nature come too late,
- 8:12or self-report surveys, which have sort of their own problems.
- 8:15So I find this, I'm not familiar with the phrase trash to treasure,
- 8:18but I find this concept really interesting. And I can see where it also provides
- 8:22rapid and timely information.
- 8:25So how does the Harm Reduction Hub go about sharing this information to the people who need it most?
- 8:31Exactly. So we like to think of ourselves as kind of a bridge.
- 8:34So we connect harm reduction agencies, scientists, and healthcare workers,
- 8:38and just community members more generally.
- 8:40So within that, I'd say the main
- 8:42way that we communicate is by sharing newsletters and alerts by email.
- 8:46But I think another big component of this is word of mouth. So if we are sharing
- 8:51our recent findings with a partner site,
- 8:53then they may just have the ability to tell folks what's going on and if they
- 8:58should be aware of potential additives in the supply and that sort of thing.
- 9:03Syringe residue testing has a clear relevance and importance for people who
- 9:08use drugs and for their families as a way to ensure that they're aware of what
- 9:14they're using and able to use more safely to prevent overdose and prevent related harms.
- 9:18But why might syringe residue testing be important, not just for those individuals,
- 9:24but for the broader community?
- 9:26Yeah, exactly. I think it's an important point to kind of highlight.
- 9:28Syringe residue testing, as we've talked about, is really good at giving us
- 9:33information that we can leverage for prevention of harm.
- 9:36And that's immediately obvious for people who are using drugs or distributing drugs.
- 9:41But services like ours also provide really important information for friends
- 9:45or family of people who use drugs,
- 9:47community members, and especially healthcare practitioners or providers who
- 9:52are working in the substance use treatment and recovery spaces,
- 9:55so specifically treatment providers and social workers.
- 9:58So by detecting these emerging threats and identifying them quickly,
- 10:02we can rapidly share public health alerts and different harm reduction agencies
- 10:07like syringe residue testing sites can help communities kind of target naloxone distribution,
- 10:11adjust their outreach strategies, and also just inform like funding proposals
- 10:15and policy decisions based on this time of local data.
- 10:18So essentially, at the end of the day, if we know what's in the supply,
- 10:21we can really tailor our prevention efforts using this information.
- 10:25So really the benefits of syringe residue testing are no small thing.
- 10:30The ripple effects really extend to so many of the factors that we're trying
- 10:34to impact in reducing harm.
- 10:36I love that some of my harm reduction friends like to say, we meet people where
- 10:41they are and maybe we don't leave them there, you know? And that's fantastic.
- 10:45So I'll leave a link in an email contact for the Harm Reduction Hub in the show notes.
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- 11:06Alex, thank you so much for being our guest today.
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