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The O-Zone Podcast | Foye Oluokun on Opportunities for Success Down the Stretch · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Soon.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer John Oser.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, welcome into this week's Ozone podcast, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: joined by what is now a familiar face to Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: fans and to the Ozone Podcast, Jaguars linebacker Foy Lucan.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us, Thank you for having me,
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  Speaker 3: and I guess the first question coming out of the bye, Uh,
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  Speaker 3: you're a veteran, You've seen a lot of different NFL teams.
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  Speaker 3: What's the state of this team right now? After some
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  Speaker 3: adversity before the buye.
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  Speaker 1: It's energized just understanding where we're at in the season.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of season left, and I understand that
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  Speaker 1: we're just trying to build and grow throughout the season
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  Speaker 1: and get back on the women column here, but really
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  Speaker 1: keep building and growing the team to be playing better
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  Speaker 1: football each and every week.
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  Speaker 2: Is it hard for.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in your eighth year, so you sort of
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  Speaker 3: understand how the league works. Is it hard sometimes for
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  Speaker 3: younger players or a team coming together to remember.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's a long season.
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  Speaker 3: Like you said, you're not going every game, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: a loss, while you don't want them, it's not the.
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  Speaker 1: End of the season definitely is in the end of
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  Speaker 1: the season. Maybe, yeah, because I'm older, I seeing I
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  Speaker 1: think one time like Brady started winning four or something
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  Speaker 1: like Crack and Tampa. You know, it's the start of
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  Speaker 1: the season. I think it's important. And I talk about
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  Speaker 1: taking all these losses as lessons kind of cliche at
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  Speaker 1: this point, but it's really important to do that because
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  Speaker 1: just because you let something slip early in the season,
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  Speaker 1: if you're playing good football, it's about learning how to win.
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  Speaker 1: Not necessarily always playing good football, but just learning how
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  Speaker 1: to win. At the end of the day, the thing
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  Speaker 1: that matters most is showing up in the win column,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so doing the necessary things throughout the game
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  Speaker 1: to win the game. Like they say, like Novembers when
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  Speaker 1: important football is starting. I think really in the beginning,
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  Speaker 1: you just want us to get ahead of the count,
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  Speaker 1: and we're above five hundred right now. But like I said,
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  Speaker 1: like you have to keep learning and understanding how to
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  Speaker 1: win the close games the end. It's a good little
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  Speaker 1: starting point, but you definitely have to be finishing better
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  Speaker 1: than you started.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to play yourself out of it early, right,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you don't have to be owing six at
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  Speaker 3: this more own seven through seven games with a veteran's
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  Speaker 3: eye on this, What have you learned about this team.
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  Speaker 2: That you like?
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're physical, very physical, a gritty team. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: kind of just always fighting. I think that's been kind
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  Speaker 1: of our mo since we came here, or I came
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  Speaker 1: here as a Jaguar, like we just fight to the end,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And this year, you know, we got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of talent that plays well together. He's got to
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  Speaker 1: keep playing well together and doing the little things within
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  Speaker 1: every place that you know, another person can have a
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  Speaker 1: big play. No job is too small, offense and defense.
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  Speaker 1: Just execute the little things and then just be more detailed.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what we've been learning these past weeks.
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  Speaker 1: So we can match that grit and that physicality up
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  Speaker 1: with you know, some detail, good football, and then I
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  Speaker 1: think we'll start flying.
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  Speaker 3: Am I overstating it to call this adversity? And if so,
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  Speaker 3: are you are you looking forward to seeing how the
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  Speaker 3: team responds to it?
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  Speaker 2: Or is that too much to call it that? Right now?
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  Speaker 1: You could call it adversity. I mean we're you know,
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  Speaker 1: lost two in a row. Nobody wants to lose one. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: we lost two so I think everybody, especially after that
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  Speaker 1: bye week, did some reflection and said how can I
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  Speaker 1: come back better? And coaches came out and said that
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  Speaker 1: about themselves as well. But I think the players really
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  Speaker 1: took it upon themselves let's play better. And it's still
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  Speaker 1: confidence in one another to go on and play better
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  Speaker 1: team football because that's what we need right now.
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  Speaker 2: What makes this.
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  Speaker 3: Bunch, this team better able to respond to adversity than
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  Speaker 3: maybe past teams.
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  Speaker 1: You bet, I think we want success for everybody on
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  Speaker 1: the team. It's not a like I want to go
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  Speaker 1: off thing, though, you want to play well in every game.
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  Speaker 1: Like you you're happy for whoever goes off that game,
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  Speaker 1: which is kind of rare, especially in a young team.
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  Speaker 1: People you know, always looking for their own making sure
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  Speaker 1: that they're good in the status or whatever. Like I
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  Speaker 1: think the win is more important than everything for us
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  Speaker 1: right now. I think that's definitely a genuine thing. And
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  Speaker 1: we're a very close knit team for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: so seeing successes across the board is what kind of
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  Speaker 1: fuels us. And because we know when somebody had success
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  Speaker 1: to somebody were probably doing well in the game.
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  Speaker 2: Now you went there really quick.
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  Speaker 3: When I ask the question, I mean, so that's a
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  Speaker 3: defining characteristic of this team to you, and something.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's very important. I really when you see
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  Speaker 1: good college teams, it's kind of easier to see that
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  Speaker 1: brotherhood feel, just because you're with them every day and
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  Speaker 1: you know, we go to classes, you go to dinner,
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  Speaker 1: like everything is done with your boys, so you might
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  Speaker 1: as well like, you know, yeah, but in the in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, like so many different people do so many
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  Speaker 1: different stuff, so much different stuff you know outside the building.
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  Speaker 1: But when you come and you want success for my
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  Speaker 1: boy who I don't live with now, like that's really
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  Speaker 1: closest to like family fear you're going to get in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. I think it's good that everybody wants success
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  Speaker 1: for one another because that's going to bring sus for
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  Speaker 1: the team, success for the team.
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  Speaker 2: What do you attribute that to?
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  Speaker 3: Did they just bring in the right guys if they
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  Speaker 3: worked to get that kind of a guy?
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  Speaker 2: Is it coaching? Is it? I assume it's many things.
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  Speaker 1: It's many things. The guys that they brought in the
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  Speaker 1: regime that came in, but a lot of the guys
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  Speaker 1: who ended up staying, Like, we had a bad year
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  Speaker 1: last year and we realized how sour went kind of quick,
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  Speaker 1: so just being a pot like understanding that that was
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  Speaker 1: last year and now this is this year, Like what
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  Speaker 1: do we need to change like personally, not necessarily our
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  Speaker 1: talent level, but you know how we approach the game,
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  Speaker 1: and then kind of the feel around the building because
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  Speaker 1: you know, towards the end of last year wasn't very good.
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  Speaker 1: So it's coming in here being happy to work, but
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  Speaker 1: being happy to like being put being put in position
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  Speaker 1: to win games. We really feel that there's not every
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  Speaker 1: game that we played in we had a chance to win.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously we lost against the Raums. We did not play
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  Speaker 1: to where we should have played. But there's not games
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  Speaker 1: where we go up in line up or in the
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  Speaker 1: scouting and stuff and say like, oh, this will be
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  Speaker 1: a very very tough game, coach, Like, if we don't
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  Speaker 1: do this, we're not going to know every game that
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  Speaker 1: we step foot on the field. Yeah, there's a way
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  Speaker 1: to win that game.
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  Speaker 3: You've you've been around long enough to have seen a
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  Speaker 3: lot of different coaching and coaching styles, and you know
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  Speaker 3: as well as anybody when a coach comes in, if
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  Speaker 3: a player doesn't buy into it, it ain't gonna work. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: what is it about Liam? Every player you talk to like,
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  Speaker 3: this guy connects, this guy gets I mean, this guy
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  Speaker 3: can really be a head coach, which is different than
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  Speaker 3: being a coordinator, Right, I mean, what is it about
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  Speaker 3: him enables him the lead in the way that I'm
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  Speaker 3: trying to get to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he does a good job of telling
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  Speaker 1: you what you're good at or what he needs from
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  Speaker 1: you and what you get better at in order to
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  Speaker 1: help the team. Right, And this is his energy, like
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  Speaker 1: you kind of feel it in himself that he wants
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  Speaker 1: to prove that he belongs as like a head coach
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  Speaker 1: once his first year and stuff. He kind of has
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  Speaker 1: that fire and grit, But it's really them the meetings
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  Speaker 1: that like the Saturday before they game or the Mondays
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  Speaker 1: after the gamer is really like telling you either the
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  Speaker 1: way we're gonna win. He believes what he's saying, and
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  Speaker 1: he believes the team believes what he's saying. And then mondays,
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  Speaker 1: you know, even if we win, like what we could
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  Speaker 1: have done better at to win by even more so
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  Speaker 1: that when you see yourself, oh, we could have done
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  Speaker 1: better when we won, it's like, oh, and he thinks
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  Speaker 1: we can even a higher level. So it's like, it's
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  Speaker 1: great energy that he brings to the billing every day,
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  Speaker 1: and I think the team kind of feeds off of that.
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  Speaker 2: There's a genuineess there.
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's that's always important, being yourself being genuine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I assume you know, I'm talked to maybe
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  Speaker 3: during training camp. I assume you see the same thing
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  Speaker 3: in camp, and you smiled when I ask you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, camp, Yeah, camp. Uh, you know, almost a college
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  Speaker 1: in the Northeast. So I'm seeing this Jersey guy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just an accident for real, And it's but the
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  Speaker 1: passion that it brings every day and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he'll tell these stories about how it grew up and
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  Speaker 1: boxing and all that, and it's really him, like he
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  Speaker 1: wants to bring the fight to whoever he's playing, wants
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  Speaker 1: to bring the fight to the offense that we play
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  Speaker 1: in practice. He's a he's definitely a warrior, and he
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  Speaker 1: wants to to swing first and win right away. So
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  Speaker 1: it's about physicality and stuff, but him being himself, like,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't really sugarcoat anything. If he don't do things
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  Speaker 1: up to the standard, he's gonna come and demand the
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  Speaker 1: best from you. And I definitely respect that as a coach,
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  Speaker 1: I want to be coached to where, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: things aren't up to the level that you want me,
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  Speaker 1: make sure I get it there. So I feel like
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  Speaker 1: it's definitely like that he cares about the game and
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  Speaker 1: he cares that you're doing things to the right standard
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  Speaker 1: because you know, you end up playing well. You're helping
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  Speaker 1: yourself out right, but you're helping the team out as well.
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  Speaker 2: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the defense very strong. I think it's the first seven.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously the Rams game is an outlier. What's the mindset
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  Speaker 3: of the defense going forward? And I guess have you
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  Speaker 3: guys reached your ceiling yet? Is there more out there
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  Speaker 3: for this spunch?
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  Speaker 1: There's definitely more out there. You know. It's a new
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  Speaker 1: system for us, being honest with a new system for us.
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  Speaker 1: So whenever you have players rolling in and out, maybe
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  Speaker 1: new roles or whatever, depending on the week, understanding the
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  Speaker 1: spots are supposed to be in, understanding where they're attacking, you,
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  Speaker 1: Understanding the problem players we're going to see weeks week.
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  Speaker 1: It's not you know, you kind of got to think
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  Speaker 1: your way through some of that. As a season goes on,
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  Speaker 1: you play in your plays, you know, now know how
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  Speaker 1: coach Camp calls the game. You're understanding what plays could
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  Speaker 1: come up in this part of the field and all
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  Speaker 1: that you can more anticipate. Leaving a little faster in
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  Speaker 1: the communication can be better. So it's the same thing
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  Speaker 1: I was talking about earlier, being more detailed through the
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  Speaker 1: game because I think we're a very physical, gritty unit.
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  Speaker 1: But let's be detailed and they keep taking that ball away.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably not fair to leave some guys out of
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  Speaker 3: the question I'm going to ask you, but I know
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  Speaker 3: you have a pretty special relationship with Trayvon and Josh
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  Speaker 3: after playing with them for the amount of time you have,
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  Speaker 3: and it's not always easy in the league to play
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  Speaker 3: even four.
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  Speaker 1: Years together, right right, that's value you.
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  Speaker 3: So tell me about the RELATIONSHI tip you guys have,
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  Speaker 3: and I guess the pride as a trio you're taking
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  Speaker 3: this defense.
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  Speaker 1: I'm as honored that they you know, kind of I'm
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  Speaker 1: like Lee Wise, a year or two older than Josh,
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  Speaker 1: four years than Trayvon, but I'm honored they come to
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  Speaker 1: me and definitely seek out my advice and you know,
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  Speaker 1: ask me what they really think or what I really
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  Speaker 1: think about the game, or how they're playing or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I see how much effort they had or how much
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  Speaker 1: they loved the game for real, and you know, I
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  Speaker 1: want to display that with how I show effort every game,
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  Speaker 1: run into the ball and stuff. And then seeing them
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  Speaker 1: basically doing that, and when they were first here like
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  Speaker 1: them competing for you know, their motor plays or they're
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  Speaker 1: not even necessarily like how many sacks they gout, just
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  Speaker 1: you know how hard they were playing. That was just
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  Speaker 1: so cool to see. And I'm like, all right, these
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  Speaker 1: are my like minded type of guys, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So even if yeah, you know Trayvon, you
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  Speaker 1: know he was still learning the game and stuff. He's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a very good athlete and stuff, still learning
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  Speaker 1: the game, and he was over there, you know, always
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  Speaker 1: giving It's hard, Like it's the first round draft pick.
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  Speaker 1: You see some guys, you know, kind of I made it.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't Trayvon at all. So and then Josh, you
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  Speaker 1: know what a staple of of Jacksonville. You know, he
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  Speaker 1: could he could have came up and like been mister
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  Speaker 1: big time and all that. That's not Josh at all.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, credit to those guys, just seeing that
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  Speaker 1: they were like minded people, just ready to work, ready
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  Speaker 1: to play hard and win. Like we also joke all
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  Speaker 1: the time. Devin very similar either warrior. He gonna work
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  Speaker 1: his his ass off. So I love playing with him,
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  Speaker 1: love playing with guys like that across the board. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I say that we have a very gritty team.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, like, roll anybody out, We're ready to play.
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  Speaker 2: Got you.
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  Speaker 3: I want to ask this sort of an off the
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  Speaker 3: wall question. You've always been known as a tackler, right
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  Speaker 3: is that a lost art in the NFL? I mean
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  Speaker 3: you're a good tackler. It seems like because you don't
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  Speaker 3: hit as much in the off season, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Harder to be a good tackler. Do you agree with that?
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  Speaker 2: You have to work harder at it now be good
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  Speaker 2: at it. And I guess what's the key to being
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  Speaker 2: good at O?
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  Speaker 1: There's things I can improve on and tackling. I think
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  Speaker 1: understanding leverage, your your the angle to the ball, but
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  Speaker 1: like not letting the runner cut back A little bit
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  Speaker 1: of it too is feel of being an ex ball carrier.
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  Speaker 1: I think in high school and stuff. I think just
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  Speaker 1: being a well rounded athlete. If you played offense, you
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  Speaker 1: feel it more. I'm not saying I'm sure you know
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  Speaker 1: I was a great kicker current high school whatever, But
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  Speaker 1: seeing wholes, feeling the hole, understanding when they're going to close,
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  Speaker 1: when they'll open up, Knowing what the running back seats,
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  Speaker 1: Understanding when the receiver has his back to you if
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  Speaker 1: he feels like cutting back versus straight knife and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Understanding your own athleticism to where who I can go
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  Speaker 1: take this shot versus who I have to take off
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  Speaker 1: the gas a little bit because he's gonna try to
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  Speaker 1: cut back on me. And then really it's just the
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  Speaker 1: will of getting the guy down. You gotta grab the
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  Speaker 1: guy and hold on sometimes, you know so. And there's
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  Speaker 1: bumps and bruises in the game and where sometimes you
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  Speaker 1: don't have the hands, but you gotta find a way
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  Speaker 1: to uh to do it. But there's stuff I can
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  Speaker 1: improve on the track on all the time I did,
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  Speaker 1: I would. I did play defensive back for a long time,
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  Speaker 1: so I still kind of tackle a little bit like one.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I lift a lot of weights. So
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  Speaker 1: I love when people try to, let's say, run through
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  Speaker 1: me and stuff like that. It's a free tackle for me,
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  Speaker 1: you know so.
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  Speaker 2: But it's hard.
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  Speaker 3: It's so I'm getting as people assume because you're in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL, you're a good tackler. But I assume, like
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  Speaker 3: when you watch games, you smile at that. I assuming
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  Speaker 3: you watch games, you can say this guy's a good tackler,
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  Speaker 3: and this guy is just here because of athleticism.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's definitely a there's a natural
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  Speaker 1: talent to Like I said, I understand the leverage of
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  Speaker 1: body control. That's all. Body control is very important. And
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  Speaker 1: then it's just a where like I don't think it hurts.
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  Speaker 1: I thought my about it unless somebody steps on me
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  Speaker 1: while I'm on the ground. That the only thing that hurts,
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  Speaker 1: like somebody hidden. Uh yeah, Shoulders hitting and stuff. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you know people shoulders might hurt after the game and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It might take a weird hit. I just I think
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  Speaker 1: when a clean knife like lock hit, it feels energizing.
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  Speaker 2: But that's why you're an yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, somehow after the game, like a couple days, I'm like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: why I'm so sore. But during the play, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: that was That's why I ran to the ball to
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  Speaker 1: feel that.
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  Speaker 2: Gotcha makes sense?
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  Speaker 3: It makes a lot of sense. A final question until
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  Speaker 3: we get to the very end. After eight years in
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  Speaker 3: this league, how do you see that experience help you on.
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  Speaker 2: The field each week? Too broad a question.
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  Speaker 1: No, I was talking with my old football coche, my
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  Speaker 1: little league coach about it. Just me sees my feet
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  Speaker 1: are a little bit more clean this year than the normal.
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  Speaker 1: And as you get older, you know it's not the
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  Speaker 1: necessarily the quick twitch that gets you placed anymore. To
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  Speaker 1: knowing where the ball is going, I think understanding specific
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to see the whole pool to understand
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  Speaker 1: what pole play it is. I don't have to. I
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  Speaker 1: can just keep the running backs foot work. I can
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: feel a lot more rather than seeing it, and that
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: helps me get to the ball on those plays better.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Less wasted effort. Sometimes.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, it's just more efficient. I've been playing more efficiently.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like as a as a year eight and
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: in like early you just out athletic size and people,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Sure, And then I understand what
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: it takes for the defense to be connected. I understand
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: what like sometimes I just want to be out there
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: and just play my play, and you know I have
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: this assignment listen, Like that was my first couple years
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: in league. Somebody else had a green died, and you
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: know I was just trying to do my role on
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: the defense, you know, And yeah, you can play a
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: lot faster that way, for sure. Like I'm a this
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: might some guys need some extra communication, some guys need
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: some alert some some anticipatation type things. But everybody has
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: to be on the same page defensively. So this is
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: the extra communication stuff. Making sure everybody's a little communication here,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: maybe even during a play can help somebody's eyes, right.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: And you clearly take a lot of pride in the
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: last part.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: That's yeah, I mean I feel like that's what the
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: team needs. I mean, team needs plays and stuff too
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: for me to make plays, but the team definitely benefits
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: from somebody. My first coach called it mama's voice, like
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: as long as you hear it, like you're comfortable. So
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: when I understood, I finally understood that, like even though
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: it might just sound like me yapping out there, like
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff I'd be saying be happening,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: So it's good.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Your mama's voice.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my parents are pretty stressful, but yeah, exactly, unless
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: you feel.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Comfort, I got you, Okay. The last thing we do
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: very quickly, I call it the O zone. Five. Boy,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: what was your last binge watch if you have.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: One, my last binge watch. Oh man, I don't remember
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: the damn oh that I finished. I think it was
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: like called girlfriend on Amazon Prime or something like that. Yeah,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I ain't going Yeah, I kind of watched it. It
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: was on the background. I was watching film. I remember
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: a couple of episodes in the multitasking.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, your pregame ritual if.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: You have one or paying stands out.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Let's say during warm up, So I'll kind of stand
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: in the end zone and I'll it was called centering yourself,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: find a focal point in the stadium. I learned that
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: in college. Guy named Brian Kane. I'll shout him out.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I ain't talked to him a while, but in this
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: is one thing I took from. And there's every every stadium,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: every field that you played on has a goal post,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: you know, and then has like a little curve thing
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: that goes down. So I kind of picked that point.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: And I take myself back from what high school. I
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: put myself in the in the bomber doom John Burrow
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: School doing the same thing and that boom, and I
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: go to college the practice field where we always used
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: to do it, take a deep breath and then center
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: myself off. Like so it's all feeling the same. Then
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, take myself to the
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Yale Bowl, do the same breath because like before the games,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: you know, same point. Then I take myself to let's
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: say Jacksonville before Yeah, Jacksonville practice field over there, Millet
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Electric Center picture the same thing. Then Jacksonville home field,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: same breath. Then where I'm at now I don't know
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: where the stadium is a deep breath. But now it's
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: like no matter where you're at, like it's since literally
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: in high school, it's the same field, same I don't
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: nothing else. I don't feel nothing else out there, Like
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: whatever the anxiety and stuff you feel from about the
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: game you're about to play, it's like it's the same
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: game I've been playing since way back in the day.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: So I think it's you know, just getting them deep
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: breaths and center myself gets me relaxing and ready to play.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: It's very cool. Thank you for that answer. The last
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: book you're.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: At read like not audiobook?
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, audiobook can be fine.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, like got finished too. I started. I'll be
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: starting people not waiting time. I forgot I'd be forgetting names.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: So I just remember the lessons I learned. But I'll
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: say the one I remember, the Alchemist. I remember that
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: when I was two, three years ago back. But there
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: was another one by that, Michael Jordan's trainer. I read
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: audio listen to two of his books, the Names. But
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you gotta take stuff. You gotta take the lessons out
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: of books. I think if you just dive in, like, oh,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: this is the greatest book, I'm gonna do everything in
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: this book. Yeah, you need to realize the audio, you know.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: But it was definitely some good stuff in both those books,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: like about being a he calls it a cleaner and stuff.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: It's like some people I could see myself being a
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: little bit of a cleaner, like that's for him as
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: high regard, but just being all the way dove into
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: whatever the task is. Uh, it's a little toxic. But yeah,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I like that book.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, your go to show growing up when you were
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: a kid.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I say the Simpsons. I
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: didn't have cable, so I was kind of that was
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: like the way I watched cartoons of Simpsons and it's
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: still going on. It's very applicable that they always have
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: little funny jokes and stuff. Satirical comedy is my my
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: go to.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Simpsons good stuff. You must see athlete man.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I had one raised on Rondo, but he retired. I
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: did see him actually when he played for the Hawks
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: per year as your guy. That was my that's my
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: favorite basketball player, Jordan and then Rondo. But Rondo my era, so.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: You're going to school up there.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: He just liked I mean, I liked him. I like
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Kentucky basketball. He was a Kentucky guard. Then he went
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: to the league, probably a year early because he decided
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: it was time for him to get out of Kentucky.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: And you know, I followed him right away, so when
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: he was kind of not playing that much to when
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: he finally run Rookie of the Month I think towards
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the playoffs or towards the end of the season. And
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: then the next year the Big Fobe Gang Big four,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: and I thought it was the greatest guard ever played.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: My late mother was a huge could catch.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Oh there we go, big Blue from the lane.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I'm a Carolina guy, all right, that's fair boy.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: I always enjoyed talking to me in this forum. Thank
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: you so much for joining the Ozone podcast.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me,