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America's Biggest Threat is Standing in Our Courts · Booker Scott: Truth Be Told

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  Speaker 1: It's 6 Eastern.
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  Speaker 3: This is a president of action.
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  Speaker 4: If he says he's serious about something, he means it.
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  Speaker 2: It's time for The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott.
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  Speaker 5: Another Tuesday has passed us by in this primary election
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  Speaker 5: season as we head to November and the midterm general elections.
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  Speaker 5: There was also bombs flying in the Middle East on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 5: and the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center, was in
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  Speaker 5: a hearing on Capitol Hill. I'm Booker, and this is
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  Speaker 5: The Truth Be Told. We're going to get into that
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  Speaker 5: here in this first segment. Coming up in the second segment,
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  Speaker 5: John Beaudoin will be here, and he's been on the
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  Speaker 5: program several times, and he's always a great guest, so
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  Speaker 5: please stick around for him in the second and third segments.
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  Speaker 5: Let's get into Tuesday first. I don't believe there were
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  Speaker 5: any big surprises for me. You had a governor's race
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  Speaker 5: in South Carolina. Donald Trump's candidate that he had endorsed
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  Speaker 5: in South Carolina governor race, she prevailed, but not getting
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  Speaker 5: over 50% of the vote. It was a crowded field,
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  Speaker 5: so it's not surprising that she would not get 50%.
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  Speaker 5: Wilson is the attorney general in South Carolina. He came
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  Speaker 5: in second there, so there will be a runoff in
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  Speaker 5: South Carolina for that governor race. Nancy Mace, she did
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  Speaker 5: not come even close. She was way down the list,
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  Speaker 5: probably around 14, 15% of that vote in South Carolina.
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  Speaker 5: So I guess her career has come to an end
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  Speaker 5: for now. And Nancy Mace will end up on the
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  Speaker 5: MAGA island of misfits. She did not get the endorsement
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  Speaker 5: of Donald Trump. So now she will join Tucker Carlson,
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  Speaker 5: Candace Owens, Thomas Massey, Marjorie Taylor Greene, who else? It's growing.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to have to get a bigger island for
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  Speaker 5: these people. Graham Platner in Maine, he easily won with
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  Speaker 5: over 70% of the vote. That's not surprising. Janet Mills
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  Speaker 5: was running against him, but she had dropped out of
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  Speaker 5: the race a couple of weeks ago, and she still
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  Speaker 5: got about 20% of the vote. In Iowa, you had
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  Speaker 5: Donald Trump's candidate for governor did not win. However, he
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  Speaker 5: just endorsed him about a week and a half ago.
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  Speaker 5: The Maha candidate, who I understand is a really good candidate,
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  Speaker 5: he won that race, and And now there will continue
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  Speaker 5: to be runoffs in certain places to finish this up
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  Speaker 5: and make sure that the party has the right candidate
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  Speaker 5: going forward to November. I don't think we can learn
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  Speaker 5: much out of the races that took place on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 5: The vote is still being counted in California, and I
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  Speaker 5: guess that will continue and continue. Let's go to the
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  Speaker 5: Middle East. Let's go where the bombs were flying into
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  Speaker 5: Wednesday night. The United States launched airstrikes early Wednesday in
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  Speaker 5: local time against Iran after blaming Tehran for the crash
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  Speaker 5: of an American attack helicopter. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 5: saw that story, but that attack on an American Apache
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  Speaker 5: helicopter took place on Monday, and that was done by Iran.
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  Speaker 5: And Iran continues to shoot missiles at Bahrain and Kuwait
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  Speaker 5: at American military bases. Donald Trump didn't have any choice here.
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  Speaker 5: We're there and they're trying to kill Americans. They've chanted
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  Speaker 5: death to America for 47 years. They are not going
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  Speaker 5: to stop. And I've been consistent on this the entire time.
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  Speaker 5: There is nothing to negotiate. You can't negotiate with these
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  Speaker 5: people in Iran. No one has been able to successfully.
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  Speaker 5: You look back at Barack Obama and what he did
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  Speaker 5: with the JCPOA. They didn't follow the agreement successfully. They
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  Speaker 5: are not following the ceasefire agreement with Donald Trump. There
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  Speaker 5: is a pattern here with these people, and I believe
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  Speaker 5: that Donald Trump has two choices, and I've said this
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  Speaker 5: for a couple of months now. You either finish it,
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  Speaker 5: probably should have never had a ceasefire to begin with,
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  Speaker 5: you finish it that way, or you just walk away.
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  Speaker 5: And if you just walk away, you have accomplished nothing,
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  Speaker 5: and you have 13 dead Americans and billions of dollars
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  Speaker 5: spent for nothing. maybe weakening them militarily, but it won't
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  Speaker 5: take them long to restock with your partners and allies
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  Speaker 5: of Russia and China. Just won't take that long for
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  Speaker 5: them to do that. So we'll continue to watch what
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  Speaker 5: happens here, how Donald Trump maneuvers in the Middle East
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  Speaker 5: with Iran. He no longer can use Saudi Arabia airspace
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  Speaker 5: and the bases in Saudi Arabia for the planes and
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  Speaker 5: the things that it may take to open the Strait
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  Speaker 5: of Hormuz. The blockade is still going on, but Iran
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  Speaker 5: oil is still getting out. It's going to be really
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  Speaker 5: interesting to watch here over the next few days, I believe.
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  Speaker 5: It's got to come to that point because the runway
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  Speaker 5: is running out to the midterm, as I mentioned. And
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  Speaker 5: I know Donald Trump said, well, I don't really care
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  Speaker 5: about the midterm. I'm not thinking about it. I'm thinking
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  Speaker 5: about getting rid of Iran's ability to fire a nuclear
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  Speaker 5: weapon somewhere. That's his objective. The problem is what's coming
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  Speaker 5: up in November is a midterm election. And with gas
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  Speaker 5: prices higher, food prices higher because of what's happening in Iran.
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  Speaker 5: And really the splintering in some ways, a small portion
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  Speaker 5: of the MAGA base has split off as a result
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  Speaker 5: of no more new wars. And that's what we have
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  Speaker 5: going on right now in Iran. That's going to affect
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  Speaker 5: the midterm coming up in November. You can't deny that.
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  Speaker 5: And what happens when Donald Trump loses that? Well, we
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  Speaker 5: have two years of investigations and impeachments coming up. I
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  Speaker 5: don't think any of us want to see that. The
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  Speaker 5: Southern Poverty Law Center has been indicted. And what they
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  Speaker 5: are doing, I really haven't talked much about this. What
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  Speaker 5: they are doing is they have been paying the people
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  Speaker 5: that they're fighting against. They paid the KKK and other
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  Speaker 5: organizations like that. And in the case of even Charlottesville,
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  Speaker 5: back when that happened, they paid the guy to do that,
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  Speaker 5: who put that whole thing on. They paid him $ 275, 000.
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  Speaker 6: The rally in Charlottesville in 2017 was funded and organized
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  Speaker 6: by SPLC.
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  Speaker 7: They paid the guy who did that $ 270, 000.
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  Speaker 6: The actual organizer of.
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  Speaker 5: The entire event. The organizer of that event.
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  Speaker 6: The one that has been the basis for screaming that
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  Speaker 6: Donald Trump is a racist. It was SPLC that organized,
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  Speaker 6: provided transportation for, and paid the person who did.
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  Speaker 7: It $ 270, 000.
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  Speaker 6: They made $ 65 million off that one event. $ 65 million
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  Speaker 6: all based upon a lie. I don't call that infiltration.
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  Speaker 6: I call that being actively involved in the organization.
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  Speaker 5: Let's first go to Chip Roy, and here is his
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  Speaker 5: questioning of the president of the SPLC, Mr.
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  Speaker 3: Fair.
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  Speaker 8: How many extremist Islamic groups do you have of the 1,500
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  Speaker 8: or so organizations you have.
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  Speaker 3: On your hate map?
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  Speaker 9: Again, anyone can go to our website.
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  Speaker 8: My office has been looking over and can't really find one.
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  Speaker 3: Again, it is the SPLC's... You.
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  Speaker 8: Think SPLC could provide us a list of the Islamic-oriented
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  Speaker 8: groups that you have on your hate map?
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  Speaker 5: We would all have to agree that Islamic hate groups exist.
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  Speaker 5: They've chanted death to America for 47 years. 9-11, 93,
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  Speaker 5: the Twin Tower bombings in the basement of that in
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  Speaker 5: the parking garage. That's what they do. But the SPLC,
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  Speaker 5: the Southern Poverty Law Center, they don't have any of
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  Speaker 5: the Islamic hate groups listed. on their list or on
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  Speaker 5: their website. They only have white supremacy groups, according to them,
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  Speaker 5: and these are the white supremacy groups that they are paying.
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  Speaker 5: That's what they've been indicted for.
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  Speaker 7: Mr.
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  Speaker 3: Roy, we don't target any group because of its religion.
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  Speaker 7: Really?
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  Speaker 3: I want to be clear about that.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, that's exactly right. We target no group because of
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  Speaker 9: its religion. We target groups because they... express statements, and
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  Speaker 9: engage in activities that demean and vilify— So.
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  Speaker 8: You brought up LGBTQ groups a second ago.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Roy.
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  Speaker 8: So you brought up LGBT groups a minute ago. So
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  Speaker 8: you think there's a bunch of Islamic groups that are pro-LGBTQ?
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  Speaker 8: Is that the position of the SPLC? I just want
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  Speaker 8: to make sure the record is reflecting that.
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  Speaker 5: Chip Roy from Texas, and he ran for office, statewide office,
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  Speaker 5: and he did not win in Texas. Let's go to
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  Speaker 5: Brandon Gill. Brandon Gill was in that same hearing questioning Mr. Fair.
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  Speaker 5: Here he is.
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  Speaker 3: Your organization.
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  Speaker 10: Said that restricting and banning abortion is a tool that
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  Speaker 10: the far right uses to maintain white supremacy.
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  Speaker 3: Do you believe that pro-lifers are white supremacists?
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  Speaker 9: I believe that reproductive liberty is.
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  Speaker 10: Do you believe that pro-lifers are white supremacists? I will
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  Speaker 10: tell you what I believe if you're asking.
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  Speaker 2: Yes or no?
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  Speaker 3: I can't answer that question. Yes or no? I don't
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  Speaker 3: think that pro-lifers are white supremacists. Do you?
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  Speaker 9: What I think is that reproductive liberty is a right
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  Speaker 9: that every woman should enjoy.
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  Speaker 3: How many babies in the United States that are aborted
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  Speaker 3: are black?
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  Speaker 10: About 40% of abortions nationwide are of black babies. Blacks
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  Speaker 10: represent about 13% of the population. Does that sound like?
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  Speaker 10: something a white supremacist would oppose.
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  Speaker 9: What I would say again is that SPLC supports reproductive liberty.
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  Speaker 10: Calling somebody a white supremacist is a pretty serious charge,
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  Speaker 10: isn't it? I mean, I would think you would be
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  Speaker 10: able to defend that if your organization says that. You
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  Speaker 10: clearly seem unable to.
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  Speaker 1: Mr.
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  Speaker 9: Gill, I'm not sure why you would think I'm unable
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  Speaker 9: to do anything.
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  Speaker 10: Because you're the president of the SPLC, which labels pro-lifers
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  Speaker 10: as racists.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 10: Does your organization just hurl around epithets like that without
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  Speaker 10: any justification?
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  Speaker 7: Mr.
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  Speaker 3: Gill, what we do is... I'm giving you the opportunity to.
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  Speaker 9: You're not giving me the opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: Mr. Chairman, what's he referring to?
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  Speaker 5: And the hearing gets a little bit sideways as Representative
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  Speaker 5: Jamie Raskin from Maryland jumps in there. He is the
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  Speaker 5: minority leader on this committee. And they argue and they
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  Speaker 5: fight for a few minutes. But good questioning there from
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  Speaker 5: Representative Brandon Gill. He's in his first two-year term as
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  Speaker 5: a representative from the state of Texas.
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  Speaker 3: Are pro-lifers white supremacists?
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  Speaker 4: Pro-lifers cannot be white supremacists.
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  Speaker 5: Brandon Gill asked that same question to Dr. Alveda King here.
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  Speaker 5: She gets an answer quickly. You hear her quite a
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  Speaker 5: bit here on the network.
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  Speaker 4: Pro-lifers believe in life from the womb to the tomb
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  Speaker 4: and beyond. Pro-lifers fight for every baby in the womb,
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  Speaker 4: regardless of skin color. We have been aborted as Blacks.
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  Speaker 4: in America disproportionately. And so the white supremacists are Planned
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  Speaker 4: Parenthood who admitted that they do have racist underpinning with
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  Speaker 4: an agenda to reduce the black population by abortion.
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  Speaker 5: And if you read the Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger's mission
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  Speaker 5: from the very beginning, it was to do exactly what Dr.
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  Speaker 5: Alveda King said. And of course, Planned Parenthood has been
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  Speaker 5: heavily financed by your taxpayer money. And again, 40% abortions
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  Speaker 5: are represented in the black community, while they represent about 13%.
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  Speaker 5: I had a friend on Facebook ask this question. Just
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  Speaker 5: the other day, he's a black guy, a friend of
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  Speaker 5: mine all the way back to middle school. And he asked,
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  Speaker 5: why are black families no longer having families of five,
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  Speaker 5: six or seven or eight kids? Maybe that's just part
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  Speaker 5: of the reason why. He was saying we should have
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  Speaker 5: more than 13% of the population at this point after
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  Speaker 5: all of these years if we had continued to have babies. Well,
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  Speaker 5: you didn't continue to grow the base of the black
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  Speaker 5: community because at 40% abortion, that's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 5: I mentioned the other night on the show, you're always
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  Speaker 5: welcome to contact me. You can do that through Twitter.
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  Speaker 5: You can find me at RealBookerScott and send me a DM,
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  Speaker 5: and you can also send me an email at BookerMediaUSA
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  Speaker 5: at Gmail. Either one of those will work fine. I
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  Speaker 5: got one from a show that we did. It was
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  Speaker 5: a town hall last week. And I want to share that.
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  Speaker 5: I want to play this. It's a message. You can
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  Speaker 5: send me a message on Axe or Twitter. And that's
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  Speaker 5: what was done here from Carl. And he is in Maine.
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  Speaker 5: And I think he has some really good points. Let's
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  Speaker 5: just listen to Carl here for a couple of minutes
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  Speaker 5: before we get to the break.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Booker. Carl here. Carl in Maine.
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  Speaker 11: I had a chance to listen to your June 5th show, podcast,
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  Speaker 11: The One Hour on the X Spaces.
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  Speaker 1: When I was driving this morning. I really enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 11: It's interesting how we look at the politics of the
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  Speaker 11: country and where things are going. The older I get,
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  Speaker 11: now at 64, I'll be 65 next February. I find
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  Speaker 11: politics a source of entertainment. Kind of like the line
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  Speaker 11: where in the movie The Last Hurrah, he's telling his
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  Speaker 11: nephew what's the greatest sport?
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  Speaker 3: Politics.
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  Speaker 11: And I know that the history of this country always,
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  Speaker 11: you know, we look back at 20 years or 25,
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  Speaker 11: 30 years past to see what the effect is of
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  Speaker 11: whatever administration was in place. We know that Reagan allergy
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  Speaker 11: is perfect for, as I can recall, going to my
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  Speaker 11: college days.
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  Speaker 1: Reagan taking over, and the.
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  Speaker 11: Brouhaha about budget cutbacks and student money not available, student loans,
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  Speaker 11: and the kids on the campus were all upset about
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  Speaker 11: the money that could be taken away. And I couldn't
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  Speaker 11: have ever possibly explained to them that that wasn't going
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  Speaker 11: to happen. But the siege was set in place that
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  Speaker 11: we know that in the middle part of that decade,
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  Speaker 11: it was really roaring. And of course, Bill Clinton was
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  Speaker 11: a great beneficiary of all the things that came down
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  Speaker 11: the line that was started in the Reagan administration. So
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  Speaker 11: years after the fact, people looking for issues kitchen table
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  Speaker 11: issues right now. Why aren't things happening? Why aren't they
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  Speaker 11: changing now? And the corporate structure is making the money.
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  Speaker 1: Well, when hasn't it been making the money? It's up
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  Speaker 1: to us to go forth and make it happen for ourselves.
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  Speaker 11: The effect of the Trump administration, we already know in
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  Speaker 11: the Supreme Court, the effect of of how his second
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  Speaker 11: administration will be felt directly will.
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  Speaker 1: Come from what happens in November.
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  Speaker 11: And if he can hold on and not have to
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  Speaker 11: put up with the nonsense of impeachments, then we could
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  Speaker 11: certainly see a lot more action happening internationally to slow down.
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  Speaker 1: China's taking on the world and the spread of communism.
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  Speaker 11: It's been around all my life, though, the spread of communism.
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  Speaker 1: That's been the one thing that's been happening.
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  Speaker 11: Nevertheless, my outlook, though, on things is I don't take
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  Speaker 11: it serious because I know what happens today in Washington, D.C.
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  Speaker 1: Will not be felt for 20 years to come. Over
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  Speaker 1: and out, my friend. Keep up the good work. God
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  Speaker 1: bless you.
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  Speaker 5: Again, that is Carl from Maine there, and he had
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  Speaker 5: a big election on Tuesday. We'll wait and see if
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  Speaker 5: Susan Collins can win that. I think Carl had a
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  Speaker 5: lot of great points there. If you would like to
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  Speaker 5: contact me or leave a message like Carl, go to X,
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  Speaker 5: find Real Booker Scott, and go in the direct message there,
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  Speaker 5: and you can leave a message. That's how that works.
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  Speaker 9: Wake up, America, can't you see?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on? Many women and men have.
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  Speaker 1: Died for the freedom.
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  Speaker 5: For you and me.
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  Speaker 1: Wake up, America, can't you see?
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  Speaker 5: We're going to really continue a conversation that we had
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  Speaker 5: the last time that he was on a program because
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  Speaker 5: been working on for at least two years that I
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  Speaker 5: know of is the court system in America. And if
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  Speaker 5: we really want to take back this country, we have
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  Speaker 5: to take back the courts. And a lot of people
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  Speaker 5: don't even realize the courts have been taken away. And
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  Speaker 5: John knows this as well as anyone. He says the
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: greatest threat to America is access to the courts. John,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: welcome back to the program. Great to have you.
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: Hey, thanks so much, Booker. Good to be here. Appreciate
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: the intro. And yeah, the courts are really killing us
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: as a country.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: What does that mean? Because most people think courts are,
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: you know, I've got a speeding ticket, I've got to
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: go to traffic court. You know, we see the court
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: television and we watch these trials, and that's what we
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: think court is. You're talking about something different, though, to
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: settle grievances.
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so just think about the most... controversial subject. in
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: our society today. Pick anyone. Pick the border. If the
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: federal government is breaking constitutional law and without an emergency,
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: what are you going to do about it? So the
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: attorneys general of certain states, they go to court against
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: the federal government. There are citizens going against, uh, state governments.
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: And when you go to court to assert your constitutional
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: rights and the court says, you don't have standing, you
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: get it. We don't want to, we don't want to
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: talk to you. You just go along your way. Um,
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: they're violating your first amendment, right? The last line of
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: the first amendment, your right to petition the government for
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: redress grievances. In addition, they're violating your seventh amendment right to, uh, for, um,
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: suits that law they're violating your 14th amendment due process
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: rights and your equal protection rights and your article 3
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: section 2 cases and controversies access to the courts the
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: reason why the courts were formed is to solve disputes
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: and if you don't have dispute resolution in the courts
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: what are you going to do you know your only
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: choice is to live under terror of the government who's
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: breaking who's violating your rights or or or the other
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: option that we are not supposed to talk about yeah.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: You talk about standing, and that is a word I
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: think many of us learned after the 2020 election. And
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: then I think we also had it in COVID in
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: a lot of cases. Coming through that 2020 election, many
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: regular Americans, just everyday Americans, they tried to sue courts.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: And we kept hearing, there is no standing. Exactly what
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: does that mean? When we were hearing that for the
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: first time, really, I think for a lot of us,
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: what did that mean?
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: Well, there's a requirement. Um, for subject matter jurisdiction, it's
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: what they would say. So it's a rule 12 B one, um,
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: of the rules of federal rules of civil procedure. I
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: guess I should back up and say, where's they get
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: the authority to do that? Um, it's, it's, it's in
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: my research paper. It's in, uh, parts of my book. Um,
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: and I've written articles on this. So, so let's talk
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: about elections first of all, cause that's more salient to the, uh,
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: current time and people will understand it. So, There were
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: about 60 cases that were brought by various individuals and entities,
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: whether corporations or even states or towns and municipalities against
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: various governments. And so let's just look at the biggest one.
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: The biggest one was Texas and Missouri brought a case
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: against Pennsylvania in 2020 for the election. And they said, yeah,
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: Pennsylvania broke its own state law. They violated the state
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: law in the way they conducted their elections. That injured
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: Missouri and Texas because it watered down their boat. So
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: if you had breaking the law and causing a change
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: in the vote in Pennsylvania, that affected the other two states.
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: And so the court, it automatically goes to the Supreme
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: Court because it's two states suing one state. It's called
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: the original jurisdiction. And what happened was the Supreme Court said,
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: You don't have, well, they said there's failure to state
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: a claim and then there's standing. So failure to state
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: a claim upon which relief can be granted is a
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: rule 12B6 and standing. You know, they're just semantics at
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: this point for this audience. They mean the same thing essentially,
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: which is you don't have a right to have your
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: case heard. You haven't stated enough in your complaint or
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: you haven't shown that you have the subject matter to
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: be here in this court. You don't have standing.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: And what they did was they, they said that the
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: Supreme court said, Oh, you don't have standing as to
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: what happens in Pennsylvania. And, um, the other one was, um,
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: they cited Ashcroft versus Iqbal. I'll hit that real fast here.
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: So Ash Ashcroft versus Iqbal was 20, 2009 was 2009.
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: And Iqbal was, was a Pakistani and he was grabbed
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: after nine 11 in New York city and and a
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: green card violation. They thought he might have something to
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: do with it because, well, he was Pakistani, he was Muslim.
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: Maybe he did know one of the hijackers. I don't know.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: But what happened was he was purportedly beaten up pretty
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: badly in, I don't know if it was Brooklyn, or
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: it was one of the federal holding penitentiaries down there.
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: And he was deported back to Pakistan. Well, he sued
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: based on the assault to him and battery. He sued
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: everybody up the chain, from the prison guards all the
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: way up to the Attorney General of the United States,
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: John Ashcroft, under George W.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: Bush.
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: So that's the case, Ashcroft versus Iqbal. But why does
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: Ashcroft come first in that case? Why isn't it Iqbal
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: versus Ashcroft? So the district court in New York said
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: that he had standing, and the state, I mean, the U.S.
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: government appealed it. And it went to the, I think
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: it's the Second Circuit. I'm pretty sure it was the
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: Second Circuit. And they said, yeah, yeah, you have standing.
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: And the U.S. government was like, no, no, we're going
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: to the Supreme Court. So they took it to the
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court said, nah, you don't
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: have any standing. It's not a plausible claim on its face.
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: I got to say, I agree with the decision of
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: the Supreme Court. It was too attenuated to sue Ashcroft.
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: And there are other legal reasons why. to toss that
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: case out or to dismiss it without it being heard.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: So I don't disagree with the decision overall, but the
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: manner in which they did it, they said it wasn't
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: a plausible claim on its face. He didn't state enough facts.
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: And that language from Ashcroft versus Zikbal then pervaded the
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: practice of civil litigation from then on. In fact, there's
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: another case two years earlier called Bell Atlantic versus Twombly
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: and Ashcroft versus Zikbal borrowed from borrowed from the Twombly case,
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: and the two of them, that those two cases in
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: 2007 and 2009 became the most cited cases in the
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: history of the United States in only the last 19 years.
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: We got a country 250 years old, and we got
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: cases 17 and 19 years old that blow away everything.
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: Marbury versus Madison, Roe v. Wade, just blows them away.
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: Miranda versus Arizona. You know these names. You know these cases.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: These.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: I mean the others I mentioned, right? Those are familiar names.
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: The Ashcroft versus Iqbal and Bell and Twombly are 10
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: times more in citations. That means, and they're only used
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: to dismiss cases. So that means cases were dismissed en
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: masse for the last 17 to 19 years. It has
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: become a custom and practice of the courts to get
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: rid of cases conveniently because they don't want to hear them. If,
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: if the judge's, wife doesn't like the subject matter, you're out.
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: If he has a golf outing that day, you're out.
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: They'll do everything not to hear a case and I've
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: proven it and I can get into the numbers either
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: now or later if you want.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's do it now.
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: Go ahead, John. Okay. So I just told you they're
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: the most cited cases in the history of the United States.
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: I did that analysis through using Westlaw and Google Scholar,
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: two sources that tell you the numbers of citations each
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: case has gone through. And by citations, I mean, the
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: number of times the case has been referenced in documented
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: other cases.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: When the judge says you don't have standing, then he
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: cites that case.
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: Generally, yeah. Lujan v. Defenders of Wildlife in 1992 was
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: the seminal case for standing. So that was 1992. And
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: then there's the failure to state a claim, which is
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: Ashcroft v. Ziegbaum and Beltland v. Twombly. those two being
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: the most cited, they're 10 times Lujan, 10 times. And
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: what Lujan did was it, it took, it put a
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: wrapper around various, uh, circuits, um, by circuits. I mean,
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: the circuit courts of appeal because the SCOTUS, uh, Supreme
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: court hadn't dealt with it. And so they need, they
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: felt they needed to put a wrapper around all these disparate, um,
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: views on standing around the circuit courts of appeal around
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: the country. You can't, you go to one region and there's,
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: there's a definition of standing and it's completely different one
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: in another region. So by, by creating Lujan, they created
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: a standard, which in itself, it's okay. I mean, it's
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: still abstract prose that allows judges too much power to
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: dismiss cases, but at least they, they aggregated it under
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: one kind of rule.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: It's injury.
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: In fact, uh, traceability, redressability, I won't get into it, but, um,
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: The then, then came the Ashcroft versus Iqbal and Bell
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: Atlantic versus Twombly. And what I show is they just
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: started dismissing cases like crazy. Now here's the second part
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: of the analysis.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: That I did.
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: I did a management systems analysis of the U S
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: court system. And I, I did it from the viewpoint
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: of I have an MBA. I'm an electrical engineer, BS
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: in electrical engineering. I have an MBA in management. I
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: have 30 years experience in semiconductor research, sales and marketing
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: for a very large company. very large multimillion dollar projects. And, um,
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: we were trained quite a bit in all the stuff
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: I'm talking about. So I did the, um, analysis of
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: the last 30 years of cases brought before any us
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: district court in civil court, not criminal. So I'm only
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: looking at civil cause I'm just interested in lawsuits. And
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: I looked to see how many cases were brought. So
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: from 1995 to 2019 is 25 years. Okay. So we
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: have a quarter of a century and the variation year
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: to year with the increase or decrease of caseload, it went,
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: the greatest increase over an expected value was 5.7%. So
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: they had 5.7% more cases in 1997 than they expected.
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: And that was the highest in that 25 year span
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: up to 2019. there was a minus 6.2 or 6.3%.
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: So it was plus 5.7 to minus 6.2, right? So
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: just think 5.7 was the biggest. In 2020, there was
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: a 62% increase, 62.2 over expected. That's more than 10
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: times the expected caseload. And that in terms of number
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: of cases extra that they didn't count on bringing is
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: There's over 181,000 cases they got hit with in 2020
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: because everybody was violating everybody's rights. You know, the government,
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: all the state governments and all the restaurants and all
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: the hospitals.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: From vaccines to everything that we had going on with COVID.
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, vaccines were the next year, 2021. So this
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: is 2020.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: We're talking about plexiglass. We're talking about plexiglass closing down businesses. Yeah.
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: Masking the masks, you know, all the lawsuits for that
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: saying that tenants, tenants, tenants could not collect rent from,
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: excuse me, landlords could not collect rent from their tenants. Um,
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: that was squashed in like March. They nailed that pretty
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: good because, Hey, there's money involved. The banks need their money. Right.
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: So that, that, that was squashed. But, uh, the point
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: is 181,000 excess cases, uh, 62% increase. So let me
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: ask you Booker, Do you think they hired 62% more
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: people all of a sudden in one year? No, they didn't. No,
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: they didn't. And do you think they worked 14-hour days
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: every day for a year, which is 62% more than
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: an eight-hour day?
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: No, to catch up. No, they wouldn't have done that.
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: No, they didn't do that either. So what do you
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: think they did?
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: They just threw it out.
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: They threw the cases out. They dismissed all the cases.
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: And so there it is. I mean, I have empirical proof.
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: that there's no possible way any management structure could handle that. Electricity, computers,
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: office space, desks, real estate, they did not do that.
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: So they dismissed meritorious cases violating hundreds of thousands of U.S.
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: citizens' rights, their right to petition the government for redress
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: of grievances, right to jury trial pursuits at law and
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: due process and equal protections and dispute resolution for cases
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: and controversies under article three section two all of it
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: was violated en masse like and the lawyers don't seem
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: to have caught on to this all they say is
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: i can't believe i thought i had standing you know
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: and and so i did the analysis and what i
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: i took it further and i said um You know,
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: there's organizational behavior having to do with organizations' cultures. We
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: say corporate culture, but this isn't a corporation. It's still
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: an organization. So the behaviors of dismissal doctrines, one of
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: which is standing, another is failure to state a claim.
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: But don't forget qualified immunity, sovereign immunity, mootness, ripeness, lattes,
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: and the other dismissal doctrines all took off like crazy, especially...
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: the failure to state a claim, and that is why
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: Ashcroft v. Iqbal and Bell Atlantic v. Twombly have become
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: so cited. And every time they're cited, that's a dismissal.
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: But you know what, Booker? You know what I noticed
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: when I did this analysis? I couldn't believe it. I
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: found out what they did in 1986, and nobody seems
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: to know what happened. So in 1986, there was Celotex v.
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: Catrett and Anderson v. Liberty Lobby. Those two cases... in
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: 1986 became the most cited cases in the history of
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: the United States. You just heard me say that about,
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: you know, Twombly and Iqbal.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. I was having deja vu. But you're
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: saying from 86 until that case, it was the most cited.
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: Exactly.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: That's right. That's right. And what is it for? It's
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: only used for one thing. It's dismissal on summary judgment,
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: if you've heard that term before.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: Yes, I have.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: Okay, so that means you don't get your case heard
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: by a jury. You're out. The judge decided there aren't
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: enough facts that rise to a level of, they call
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: it for judicial economy. We're going to dismiss this case.
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: You didn't have enough facts that came out during discovery. Well,
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: that shouldn't be the judge's purview to decide.
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: Well, they're trying the case before they try the case.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: Somebody's making that decision before we have a jury. That's
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: the way it's supposed to be.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: You got it. That's exactly what's happening. And so those
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: becoming the most cited cases in the history of the
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: United States in 1986 shifted the balance of workload where
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: people used to do work. You'd have this case, but
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: now it's like being dismissed. But look, the only way
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: to make the system more efficient, because I look at
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: system efficiency, kind of a systems analyst, management systems analyst,
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: And the only way to make the system more efficient
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: for dismissals, to ensure that you don't hear a case. Now,
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: summary judgment is after discovery. That's a lot of work
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: that gets done by lawyers. The only way to make
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: it more efficient is to back it up to the
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: very beginning of the case. As soon as somebody files
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: a motion to dismiss, what happens is there's an opposition memorandum,
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: a reply brief, and the judge decides whether or not
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: you state enough facts on the face of the complaint
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: for a plausible claim. That's the language they use. And
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: so they made the system more efficient. They did it
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: in summary judgment in 1986, and they started taking away
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: the people's right to be heard. And then they went
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: just bonkers in 2007 and 2009. But when COVID hit
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: is when the behavior really took off. Because if you
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: do the same thing, every day, multiple times a day
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: for a year, chances are in the next year, you're
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: going to continue with that behavior. I have behavior loop model,
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: conservation and resources theory, ecological systems theory. Those are all
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: organizational behavior theories that explain what happened. And they're continuing
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: to do this today. And the judges, they don't even
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: know that they're doing it. They're just doing it because
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: they think that's their job. No, you go back before 1986,
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: Cases were heard on a substantive matter, not procedural. Oh,
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: you didn't dot your I's and cross your T's in procedure.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: Hey, John, we're up against a break. Let's get into
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: maybe what can be done about this. To me, it
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: sounds like that there is an awful lot of work
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: going into things in a summary judgment where you go
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: through discovery and everything else. Attorneys are getting paid. The
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: judges are getting paid. And The attorneys always get paid,
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: but we're going to continue the conversation coming up in
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: just a minute.
• 36:58
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• 38:02
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• 38:05
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• 38:08
  Speaker 5: it is Unleashed, the political news hour. I'm Booker Scott
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: with John Boudouin Sr., He has been here many times.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: I say many, I think four or five is probably
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: the number. Don't you think, John? I think we're up
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: to four or five times you've been a guest here
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: over the last three years. But we are talking about
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: the greatest threat to America, and that's our ability as
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: Americans to go to the court when we have a
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: grievance and have our case heard. Most of these cases
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: are no longer being heard. What do you think the
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: remedy is here, John? Where do we go from here?
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: That's always the most important thing, right? There's complaining, but
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: what are you going to.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Do about it?
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: Everybody complains. What's the solution?
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: So last fall, I forget the date, I had a
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: case in which I had sued the governor, the public
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: health commissioner, the chief medical examiner, and four individual medical
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: examiners for Massive amounts of fraud on death records where
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: they said people died from COVID when they really died
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: from the COVID vaccine, from fentanyl overdose, from blunt force
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: trauma to the head, blunt force trauma to the torso.
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: They lied and they lied and they lied. And it
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: was a matter of custom and practice. Well, I was
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: told that I don't have standing and I failed to
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: state a claim. And my case was dismissed, even though
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: I have plenty of evidence. In fact, Exhibit F in
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: that case is more evidence than you'll find anywhere in
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: the last four or five years of proofs. absolute conclusive
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: proof that the government has been doing this to us,
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: hiding vaccine deaths, killing people. Um, and you know, they're
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: just doing it and you go to court to try
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: to stop it, but they say you don't have standing.
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: So that's how I got into this. And, um, What
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: I learned was I went to the First Circuit on appeal,
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: and I learned that they don't even look at it.
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: They sat on it for a year and a half,
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: and I called them up one week shy of 18 months,
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: and I said, hey, I'm just curious. Do I need
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: to do anything else? I mean, it's been almost a
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: year and a half. They said, no, no, you're all set.
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: We got everything. And because I had reminded them, they
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: sent me a letter within a couple days saying, And
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: it had a tiny little paragraph with only one sentence
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: of substance that said, we reviewed this de novo, you know,
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: from the new, right? And you don't have standing. And
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: they didn't do anything, Booker. They didn't do it. They lied, right?
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: I paid $ 600 for it. I had a contract with
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: them for $ 600 to review my case. They didn't do it.
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: I can't prove it. So, you know, I would love
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: to sue the First Circuit and state court, but they
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: would automatically go to federal court. So, yeah, what federal
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: judge is going to.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: Say, yeah, you're right. I hate to use the word,
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: but it's rigged against the American people. And I think
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: that's the frustration for so many of us right now.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: Government has gotten too big. The judicial system has gotten
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: too big for the everyday person that's trying to settle
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: a grievance with something. There is no remedy because they're
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: not taking the case. And it's frustrating. And I think Americans...
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: are tired of all of it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah. So what did it, my only next step was
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: to go to SCOTUS. So I did a petition for
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: writ of care to your Ari. Um, people say, sir,
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: to your Ari. So with a C, um, you know, I,
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: and it was good. I mean, I, I thought it
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: was good. I'm not a lawyer by the way, for
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: your audience. Uh, let's see. So I did the management
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: discuss management systems analysis of the U S court systems.
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: That's an 18 page economics and law research paper. And
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: I have a lot of data and numbers and math,
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: but I also have the application of the organizational behavior
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: and stuff like that. And I took that as the
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: basis for my petition to the Supreme court. They of
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: course wouldn't hear it, but it's on the docket forever.
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: It's in, it's in the, you know, it's in the
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: annals of history of the Supreme court. And in that
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: I propose two very simple things. Um, One, and they
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: both have to do with injunctive relief. So in order
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: to get an injunction, boy, how do I break this
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: down for the audience? There are courts of law. When
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: you go to court, there's civil litigation. The judge has
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: to follow the law. So if you bring a matter
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: at law, He has to follow the law. And I
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: don't mean statutory law. I mean, statutory law and executive
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: orders and case law, which is made by the courts.
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: So they have to follow those. And if they if
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: there is a matter that doesn't fall within any defined law,
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: then we have something called equity. And that's equity. Don't
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: don't get confused with the equity versus equality and all
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: that's the totally different meaning of equity. In this case,
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: it just means fairness. If there's no law, you've got
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: to make the guy get his car off my lawn.
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: He's killing my lawn, but the guy needs to leave
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: the car there for one more day because, I don't know,
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: the car is going to fall apart. There are reasons
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: that a judge says, you know what, let him have
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: it one more day. I'm not going to ruin a $ 25, 000
• 43:26
  Speaker 7: car just for one day, and you haven't given me
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: any reason for a day. The judge makes a decision
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: in equity to allow that or to order somebody.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: It's a fair decision. The guy's got time to move
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: his car. Your blades of grass are going to be okay.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: Just let the guy move in 24 hours. It's a
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: fair decision. Yeah.
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: And to extrapolate on that, I mean, the judge is
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: trying to make a fairness decision about, you know, whether
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: or not somebody should wear a mask or, you know,
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: have to put plexiglass up or, you know, all the
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: stupid COVID orders and, Um, there's, there's a, there are
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: a lot of things that are inequity and not at law.
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: And so that, that, that becomes a problem, um, in
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: most cases, but in order to decide those, the judge
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: looks at a few things. He looks at the immediate
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: irreparable harm, right? It has to be immediate. If the
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: harm isn't immediate, then, you know, we can figure out
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: a solution, uh, within the next so many days, weeks, whatever.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: We've got time. There's no reason to rush through this yet.
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: But the two major, and there's no adequate remedy at law. Okay,
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: that's actually one of the things in order to get
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: an injunction. The two most important ones, though, well, one is, oh, gosh,
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: likelihood of success on the merits. That's a ridiculous one
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: that judges abuse because it's abstract. But here are the
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: two big ones, Booker, and here's the solution to the
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: problem that will never get implemented. But here it is.
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: They have to weigh... the decision of the judge for
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: one of the parties and what they're asking for, they
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: have to ensure that that doesn't harm the public interest.
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: So whether it's fireworks that somebody's setting off or somebody's
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: dumping oil in their ground and there are people around
• 45:12
  Speaker 7: that have the wells and the town has well water.
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: So you have to look at it from a public
• 45:17
  Speaker 7: interest viewpoint. So the judge is weighing the public interest.
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: The other one is balance of arms. So if I
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: give the plaintiff what he's asking for, in relief.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: Does that, will that kill the defendant? You know, will it,
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: will it deplete him of all his money? Uh, will it, uh,
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: you know, it, it, there's a balance.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: Will it harm?
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah. And it's how much harm versus if he's the
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: one perpetrating the problem, you know, then.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: Maybe he deserves.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah. So the judge has to look at all that.
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: That's balance of harms and public interest. Now take a
• 45:51
  Speaker 7: look at COVID where the, um, the orders and everything
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: were purported to be for the public interest. And so
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: when you sue the government and you're looking at the
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: balance of harms, whether or not to hear the case
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: and the defendant is the government, the state government or municipality,
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: there's kind of a merger of the public interest and
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: the balance of harms because the government purports to represent
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: the public interest. So in that case, now you're only
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: looking at one thing. So In every one of these
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: procedural decisions that judges make, I would propose that they
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: have to look at the balance of harms such that
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: if they don't hear the case and another 200,000 people die,
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: if the plaintiff happens to be right and the vaccines
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: are killing people and he can prove it, but we're
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: not going to let him prove it because we're going
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: to dismiss the case on balance of harms, You know, 200,000
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: people dying, I think on the balance of harms, we're
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: going to have to give him standing. We're going to
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: have to let him plead his case. And as an
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: equitable decision, what I'm saying now is that procedural decisions
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: are generally equitable decisions. They're masquerading as decisions at law.
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: Let's talk about what you just brought up, because there
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: were cases like that that were brought and they were
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: tossed out.
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: And so we have hundreds of thousands of people that
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: are dying, why would a judge come to the conclusion
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: that they would in throwing out that case when so
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: many people are dying? Is it because they perceive that
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: the vaccines were effective for 98% of the people and
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: that was the balance of judgment?
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: Yes. Judges are among the dumbest people in society who
• 47:45
  Speaker 7: believe that the vaccines are Safe and effective. They're safe
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: and effective, Booker. That's it. I don't want to hear it.
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: You will not bring any expert witness in to say otherwise.
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: I'm not going to allow it. They're safe and effective.
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: That's not on the table. We're not. I'm actually quoting
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: a judge in a case that I was listening in
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: a status conference on. He would not allow the plaintiff
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: to bring any expert witnesses that said, and I'm not
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: even talking safe and effective. I'm talking about a piece
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: of the effective argument where transmission. So, The Title VII
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: and ADA claims where people got fired for vaccine mandates
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: and they did a religious exemption and they were denied
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: and they got fired. So they bring a case. The
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: corporations are claiming an undue hardship because the unvaccinated are
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: a threat to the vaccinated and to, say, the patients
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: in a hospital. Well, if transmission isn't retarded at all,
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: isn't stopped, if it isn't I use that word a
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: lot and people laugh, but it has a very, very good,
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: you know, it's got a great definition.
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: I know you and I are both of age where
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: we know that that used to be on applications for
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: government things, the word retarded. It was a part of
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: the vernacular at one point and it was made a
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: bad word along the way, but I get what you're saying.
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah. It doesn't impede transmission at all. It was never tested.
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: There's a vice president at Pfizer saying it was never tested.
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: But yet the federal judges all think that the unvaccinated
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: are a threat. One of them said, you all better
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: not get me sick because I'm going on vacation in
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: two weeks. It's like, what? Do you even know what
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: the hell you're talking about? These people are so uneducated.
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: And I know why, because CNN and MSNBC and Rachel
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: Maddow said the vaccinated or the unvaccinated are a threat
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: to everybody else. And the president of the United States
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: said that we're a threat to other people. And yet.
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: The people who made the vaccine, a vice president of
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: Pfizer testifies before the EU parliament and says, we never
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: tested for that. It's just, and now we know through
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: the Barnstable study down at Barnstable, Massachusetts on Cape Cod,
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: that they knew in, was it June or July of 2021,
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: six months into the vaccine, they knew that the vaccinated
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: carried as much or greater a viral load As the unvaccinated.
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: So there was absolutely no difference because the next thing
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: they say after, oh, it does transmit is, well, it's
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: less of a chance. It's less of a chance. That's
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: a lie, too. You're just making stuff up as you
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: go along. So the answer to your question is judges
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: don't know. They don't know because they've never allowed a
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: case to get into discovery so that they could know.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: They don't want to know, I think.
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: They don't want to know. They just want to follow
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: the cult.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: I think that's the answer. I don't think that the
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: judges actually want to know because if they did, maybe
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: they would allow someone to do some discovery on the
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: vaccines and on COVID, the origins and everything that all
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: of us have talked about for years that we just
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: can't get anywhere with. Even in the Senate and in
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: the Congress, can't get anywhere with it. I think Senator
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: Ron Johnson is one of the few voices there that
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: knows what happened and knows what is going on. And
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: he continues to try to fight for things. But as
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: far as I can tell in Congress, he's it. He's alone.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: He's one of 535. Yeah. And he makes a lot
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: of sense in the things that he says. And, you know,
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: John Baudouin is his name. And, John, please tell everybody
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: where they can get your book, where they can read
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: your work. And what he's talking about is the greatest
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: threat to America ever. And that's access to our courts
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: that we don't have anymore because of things like standing.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: You've just heard him talk about it. And, you know,
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: I talk about Americans being frustrated because it seems like
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: so many things that we're supposed to have access to,
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: we no longer do because government has become bigger than us.
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: What is the answer? Maybe the only answer that we
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: do have is really just to pray, to pray. And
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: people like John out there trying to bring light to
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: things like this and this subject and other people that
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: are doing the same thing that I bring you on
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: this show from time to time. John, tell everybody where
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: they can find your work and talk about your book
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: as we end this segment here.
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: Sure. My book is The Real CDC, and CDC means
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: coquine de chien. It means bad dog in French. It's
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: not the CDC. So it's a lowercase d. So therealcdc.com.
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: is the website to buy the books. I just lowered
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: the price from $ 25 to $ 10. So go.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Get the book.
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: And my sub stack, therealcdc.substack.com. Just throw a sub stack
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: right there in the middle. I have about 150 articles.
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: There's nothing like it. There's nobody else who has 1.6
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: million non-redacted death records. My Twitter handle, X, is JohnBodwinSr, J-O-H-N-B-E-A-U-D-O-I-N-S-R.
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: John Paul Bodwin on Facebook. I have a Rumble podcast
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: called The Last Boomer. You could do T-L-B-C-A-S-T T-L-B-C-A-S-T or
• 53:09
  Speaker 7: look up The Last Boomer podcast. I have probably 10
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: or 15 episodes on there right now. I've got to
• 53:15
  Speaker 7: get back to it and do some work.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: What else?
• 53:18
  Speaker 7: I've been on a bunch of stuff.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: Let me tell people listening, when you hear someone like
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: John or even myself, we talk about a book and
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: I would love to give my book to everybody. I
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: just can't afford it. And I'm sure John's the same way.
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: But when we talk about these things, we would love
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: to have you help promote us. We have a different voice.
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: We have a different perspective, a different opinion than what
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: the mainstream media provides. And that's one thing you can
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: do in this fight for freedom and liberty here in
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: America is put out people like John and myself and
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: other people that you hear on this network and on
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: this program. It means everything. It really does. And that's
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: great support for us. John, thank you so much. Come
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: back sooner. Next time, I'll make sure that I invite
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: you back quicker.
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: Thank you, Booker. Much appreciated.
• 54:04
  Speaker 9: Have a good one.
• 54:05
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• 54:07
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• 54:11
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• 54:21
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