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The Late Debate | 7 October · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late Welcome Lait.
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  Speaker 2: To Bay.
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  Speaker 3: Well, good evening and thanks for joining us on the
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  Speaker 3: Late Debate. James Macpherson with Liz Storra and Caleb Bond
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  Speaker 3: coming up the incredible story of a woman who applied
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  Speaker 3: for a job in nineteen seventy six and received a
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  Speaker 3: reply just this week. We'll talk about that a little later.
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  Speaker 3: Plus when we look at the papers. Legal experts warn
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  Speaker 3: that Labour's Misinformation Bill could result in Australian's being jailed
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  Speaker 3: if they refuse to cooperate in government hearings and elsewhere.
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  Speaker 3: Researchers have been awarded half a million dollars in taxpayer
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  Speaker 3: money to find out whether Australia really is Girt by Sea. Honestly,
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  Speaker 3: you could not make that up. It's in the papers tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to it a bit later.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: We're sport for choice on this show when it comes
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  Speaker 3: to examples of government waste, and this one is an
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  Speaker 3: absolute beauty. The South Australian government spent three hundred and
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  Speaker 3: sixty thousand dollars moving an agency from one department to another,
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  Speaker 3: only to move it right back again just two years later.
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  Speaker 3: Skills South Australia, which facilitates vocational training. Was part of
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  Speaker 3: the Department of Industry, Innovation and Science, but the government
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  Speaker 3: decided to spend two hundred thousand dollars on consultants who
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  Speaker 3: advised that it should be moved to the Department of Education,
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  Speaker 3: and so they spent another one hundred and sixty thousand
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  Speaker 3: dollars making the move, So that's three hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 3: grand all up. But just twenty four months later they
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  Speaker 3: decided doesn't really fit there, and so they moved it
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  Speaker 3: straight back, because after all, it's only your money. The
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  Speaker 3: opposition leader in South Australia, John Gardener, told the media
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  Speaker 3: this story is like something straight out of Utopia, that
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  Speaker 3: ABC show that satirizes government departments. He said it would
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  Speaker 3: be funny if we weren't in the middle of the
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  Speaker 3: cost of living crisis and businesses weren't suffering from skills
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  Speaker 3: shortages right around our state. To have so much money
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  Speaker 3: spent on shuffling departmental debt chairs around only to move
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  Speaker 3: them back a year later is a very costly embarrassment
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  Speaker 3: for the Premiere Lives. It's hard to imagine more ineptitude
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  Speaker 3: than this. What are the bureaucrats thinking?
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  Speaker 5: Seriously?
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  Speaker 6: The guy who writes the show Utopia literally said, it's really.
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  Speaker 5: Not that hard. The comedy rights itself.
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  Speaker 6: You just pay attention to what government's doing and then
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  Speaker 6: we enact it and everyone thinks it's hilariously funny, but
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  Speaker 6: it really is art depicting real life when it comes
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  Speaker 6: to government departments.
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  Speaker 5: And we still don't know what this year's.
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  Speaker 6: Move cost South Australian. So we know about the three
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  Speaker 6: hundred and sixty thousand, what did this year's move cost? Well,
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  Speaker 6: they're not going to let us know anytime soon, are they.
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  Speaker 6: They don't want us to do the addition and find
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  Speaker 6: out what a joke this is. This genuinely reminds me
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  Speaker 6: of season one on Utopia where they had this massive rebrand.
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  Speaker 6: It's going to be an inspiration. This is really important.
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  Speaker 6: They spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on the consul
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  Speaker 6: and sea fees being pitched a new logo and.
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  Speaker 5: Then they're painting it up on the wall.
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  Speaker 6: They're getting all their business cards, their letterheads redone and
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  Speaker 6: the entire time you're watching the episode going that is
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  Speaker 6: the pink Floyd symbol, the beam of light hitting a
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  Speaker 6: prison resulting in a rainbow and by the end of
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  Speaker 6: that episode they've realized that and had to change it
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  Speaker 6: all back. I mean, this is exactly that episode.
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  Speaker 4: This stuff happens all the time, right, This is just
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  Speaker 4: one of the ones we've found out about. Governments do
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  Speaker 4: this stuff all the time, particularly when there's a change
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  Speaker 4: of government. So the Libs disappear and Laby comes in
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  Speaker 4: or vice versa, right, And they move around various parts
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  Speaker 4: of departments. And I'm thinking in South Australia again, when
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  Speaker 4: I was there, they had the Department of Education and
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  Speaker 4: Child Services that then became the Department of Education and
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  Speaker 4: Child Development, so it went from decks to deck because
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  Speaker 4: they move part over ere and another part over there.
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  Speaker 4: That's hundreds of thousands of dollars that they spend making
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  Speaker 4: new logos, they need new letterheads, all that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: They break up the Transport Department from the Environment. But
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  Speaker 4: on and on and on. This happens every time there
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  Speaker 4: is a change of government. Literally millions of dollars get
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  Speaker 4: spends on this stuff, which is just about moving one
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  Speaker 4: set of workers from one office to another so that
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  Speaker 4: one minister has jurisdiction over them instead of another minister.
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  Speaker 4: And they don't care about what it costs to do that, Like,
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  Speaker 4: why can't you just leave it where it is? It
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  Speaker 4: doesn't need to move. The proof here being that two
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  Speaker 4: years later they moved them back from whence they can.
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  Speaker 3: So you waste hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayer money.
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  Speaker 3: And the interesting thing is consultants advised us to do this,
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  Speaker 3: which provides cover so that they can waste hundreds of
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  Speaker 3: thousands of taxpayer dollars and no one is ever held
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  Speaker 3: accountable because consultants.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, in this case, I believe it was PwC. So
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  Speaker 5: the government, the bureaucrats get.
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  Speaker 6: To go, well, you know, we were just allowing the
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  Speaker 6: professional advice that we squandered one hundred thousand dollars on.
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  Speaker 5: So how were we supposed to know.
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  Speaker 6: That this wasn't for a better and more flourishing society.
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  Speaker 6: It is utterly maddening, especially, like you say, Caleb, in
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  Speaker 6: the middle of a cost of living crisis, when this money.
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  Speaker 5: Could be so much better spent.
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  Speaker 6: I can't imagine how South Australians are feeling today waking
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  Speaker 6: up to this news.
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  Speaker 3: We imagine how many young people could be put into
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  Speaker 3: vocational trading exactly, but three hundred and.
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  Speaker 2: Sixty thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 3: We've got a shortage of tradesmen, but they're spending money
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  Speaker 3: moving desks around instead of training people for trade.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's the expense of doing it again. Taking it
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  Speaker 4: back to the older covey where it was reminds me
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  Speaker 4: of Jerome Wymer down in Victoria, who of course had
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  Speaker 4: to be paid out when he left the state government
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  Speaker 4: after being a large part of the COVID response. Then
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  Speaker 4: they employed him as the man to to run the
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  Speaker 4: Commonwealth Games, and then of course they canceled the Commonwealth Games.
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  Speaker 4: They had to pay him out for that. We did
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  Speaker 4: a story a couple of weeks ago about bloke up
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  Speaker 4: in Queensland who was running Queensland Health. He left and
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  Speaker 4: got a massive payout on the way out, and then
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  Speaker 4: went over to the hospital up on the Gold Coast
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  Speaker 4: and got a massive contract there too, all within the
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  Speaker 4: same department. But it ain't you well, ain't their money.
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  Speaker 4: It's your money. But they don't care because they don't
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  Speaker 4: have to come and knock on your door and ask
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  Speaker 4: you to make a donation. They forcefully take this money
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  Speaker 4: from you every single year, and this is how they
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  Speaker 4: spend it. Let's go overseas where we see tinges of
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  Speaker 4: the discussions that we have here in this country. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter where you go, there's a welcome to
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  Speaker 4: country at every event. If it's not a welcome to country,
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  Speaker 4: it's an acknowledgment of country. You get on the sky
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  Speaker 4: bus in Melbourne, they tell you that sovereignty has never
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  Speaker 4: been seeded, which is a great message to sell to
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  Speaker 4: people when they've just landed in Australia and the first
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  Speaker 4: interaction they have with the place is being told that
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  Speaker 4: the land was stolen. Well, it is exactly the same
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  Speaker 4: in Mexico where the new president is about to be inaugurated,
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  Speaker 4: Claudia Shineborm and she will notably not have the King
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  Speaker 4: of Spain visiting for her inauguration. Now generally the King
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  Speaker 4: of Spain comes along has previously for the inauguration of
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  Speaker 4: Mexican presidents. But the Mexican government's been having a bit
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  Speaker 4: of a Mexican standoff, as it were, with the Spanish
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  Speaker 4: government for a few years now about the lack of
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  Speaker 4: an apology for what happened five hundred years ago when
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  Speaker 4: Spain came in and conquered the Aztec. Now this goes
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  Speaker 4: all the way back to twenty nineteen. This started when
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  Speaker 4: the then president Andreas Manuel Lopez Obrador I've got to
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  Speaker 4: get all of that name in there, said he wanted
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  Speaker 4: an apology. He wrote off a letter. Here's what he
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  Speaker 4: said at the.
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  Speaker 7: Time, Viajonta andres Lota a cat alpapa. But he sepia
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  Speaker 7: perdom ah los polos originas for las la Look I
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  Speaker 7: see gnoss.
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  Speaker 4: And shineborm is continuing the beef by refusing to invite
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  Speaker 4: the King of Spain. Now, would you believe it? Spain
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  Speaker 4: declared independence in eighteen twenty one, Yes, eighteen twenty one,
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  Speaker 4: and here they are still complaining we need an apology
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  Speaker 4: from Spain for something that happened five hundred years ago.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, is the UK going to write off and
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  Speaker 4: asked for an apology from the Vikings for what happened? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you could go back, literally, every single country could go
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  Speaker 4: back and map all the way back thousands of years
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  Speaker 4: every time they were invaded, conquered, taken over, raped, pillaged
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  Speaker 4: on it. I mean, we would not stop to talk
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  Speaker 4: about anything else than these apologies that everyone wants. If
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  Speaker 4: this is how we conduct ourselves, I'm just glad to
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  Speaker 4: know it's not just us doing it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's hilarious Mexico.
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  Speaker 3: I've got their first ever female leader, and Liz it's
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  Speaker 3: true that a woman never forgets.
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  Speaker 2: Years later.
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  Speaker 5: I think she wants an apology.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she's even.
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  Speaker 3: Had her government department come up with a ceremony of
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  Speaker 3: atonements that the Spanish decide that they will apologize. The
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  Speaker 3: Mexicans have already worked out how they can do it.
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  Speaker 3: The irony, of course, as Caleb said, was that the
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  Speaker 3: King of Spain has not been invited to her swearing in.
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  Speaker 2: Ceremony, but Vladimir Putin has, and he's responsible for a
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  Speaker 2: much more reason.
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  Speaker 3: I think the difference is you can't get money out
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  Speaker 3: of Vladimir Putin.
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  Speaker 6: There's only certain invaders that they're not oparently, But can
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  Speaker 6: I just say I love this by King Philip the
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  Speaker 6: sixth of Spain. He's not playing into it. Most leaders
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  Speaker 6: in today's environment just go okay, yep, sorry, like ride
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  Speaker 6: up some royal ducuay. Oh, put my magic wax seal
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  Speaker 6: on it. We'll do a song and dance. We'll have
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  Speaker 6: this ceremony of atonement. He's just it's like sot it.
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  Speaker 6: It was twenty generations ago. Me saying anything is not
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  Speaker 6: going to achieve the slightest difference to anybody's quality of
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  Speaker 6: life here in the twenty first century.
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  Speaker 5: I am not playing into this.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's very smart because you know what follows
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  Speaker 6: an apology, reparations in some.
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  Speaker 5: Way, shape or form.
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  Speaker 6: And King Philip has just gone no, I'm not playing
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  Speaker 6: this game. You can exclude me from your little inaugural powwow.
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  Speaker 5: I don't care. We're not coming to the party.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what I don't get right, So the Spanish are
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  Speaker 3: supposed to apologize to the Aztecs where sorry, we conquered.
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  Speaker 3: You do the Aztecs apologize to all the people they sacrificed?
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  Speaker 5: An ate?
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  Speaker 2: Is that going to happen?
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  Speaker 5: That advanced?
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  Speaker 4: But this is the problem, right, you could literally go
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  Speaker 4: back thousands and thousands and thousands of years and find
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  Speaker 4: anyone who has ever wronged you and asked for an apology.
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  Speaker 4: Where does it in, Like, at what point do we
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  Speaker 4: just accept that history is history. Let bygones be bygones.
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  Speaker 4: We'll deal with what is in front of us now.
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  Speaker 4: If there are damaging effects that were caused by invasions
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  Speaker 4: or whatever, at certain points, sure you deal with them
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  Speaker 4: now through health care or welfare or whatever it might be.
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  Speaker 4: But sitting around and quibbling over what happened five hundred
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  Speaker 4: years ago in this case, or what happened, you know,
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  Speaker 4: three four hundred years ago in the case of Australia
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  Speaker 4: doesn't actually move us any further. Always, it's heavy to
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  Speaker 4: talk about these things that are so you know, they're
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  Speaker 4: not in the here and now because you don't actually
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  Speaker 4: have to do anything about them. It doesn't require actual action.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't require you to do anything to help someone
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  Speaker 4: right now, but you can shed the blame for what
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  Speaker 4: is happening now to things that happen five hundred.
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  Speaker 3: Years This is the irony of the progressive movement. Right
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  Speaker 3: Mexico's got a progressive leader who doesn't want to talk
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  Speaker 3: about the future. It only wants to talk about something
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  Speaker 3: that happened twenty generations to go, which is the ultimate.
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  Speaker 2: In emotional manipulation.
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  Speaker 3: When you're trying to convince an entire cut, you need
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  Speaker 3: to apologize for what happened twenty generations ago. And good
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  Speaker 3: on the king, as you said, because to apologize for
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  Speaker 3: something that happened five hundred years ago, would that not
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  Speaker 3: be emotional fraud.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he knows it.
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  Speaker 6: He knows that the invoice would soon follow, and he's
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  Speaker 6: not having a bar of it. To the European Union now,
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  Speaker 6: where they know they're in a spot of trouble after
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  Speaker 6: the election earlier this year in June, where it was
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  Speaker 6: a very different European Union that met afterwards. Why because
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  Speaker 6: the large sways of their twenty seven country states had said,
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  Speaker 6: we're electing right wing members now because we're sick of
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  Speaker 6: the mass immigration flooding into our countries. You will remember
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  Speaker 6: that the backlash in France was so severe that President
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  Speaker 6: Macron went to a snap election saying, well, my lot,
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  Speaker 6: the lefties have clearly lost the will of the people,
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  Speaker 6: so we need to go to a snap election. Since then,
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  Speaker 6: in July, the Netherlands have finally sworn in their right
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  Speaker 6: wing government again ran on anti immigration.
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  Speaker 5: A few months.
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  Speaker 6: Later, Austria elected the Freedom Party again ran on anti immigration.
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  Speaker 6: This just keeps becoming a massive issue for the EU
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  Speaker 6: as they lose more and more control over their own
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  Speaker 6: member states.
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  Speaker 5: So what do they do.
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  Speaker 6: They get the European Council on Foreign Relations to roll
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  Speaker 6: out a report warning that whiteness and europeanness is the
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  Speaker 6: danger going forward. Not citing economic or energy issues, not
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  Speaker 6: citing mass immigration, the rocketing crime, etc.
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  Speaker 4: And so on.
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  Speaker 6: No, No, it's the European neess of Europe that is
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  Speaker 6: posing a massive problem.
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  Speaker 5: Let's read from this report.
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  Speaker 6: It says in most countries, non white and Muslim people
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  Speaker 6: were underrepresented in candidate lists. No more than twenty non
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  Speaker 6: white MPs were elected this year, less than three.
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  Speaker 5: Percent of the total and well below the ten.
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  Speaker 6: Percent share that racial and ethnic minorities are estimated to
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  Speaker 6: account for in the EU.
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  Speaker 5: Where do these people get the goal?
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  Speaker 6: You'll notice it's never African countries that have pressure placed
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  Speaker 6: upon them to have some whites in their parliament.
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  Speaker 5: Never in the Asian countries.
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  Speaker 6: That were like, wait, what about the white representation in
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  Speaker 6: your parliament? And don't even get started on the Arab states. No,
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  Speaker 6: it's always the Europeans. It's always the white countries, Canada,
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  Speaker 6: the US, Australia. We obsess over this. Let's return to
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  Speaker 6: the report. It says far right parties appeared to be
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  Speaker 6: on the rise in almost every member state, usually issuing
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  Speaker 6: promises to stop immigration or even planning as the alternative
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  Speaker 6: for Germany or AfD did to expel large swathes of
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  Speaker 6: the population were still parts of the European political mainstream,
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  Speaker 6: especially among center right and liberal parties, certainly appeared to
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  Speaker 6: embrace elements of a xenophobic view of the world, as
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  Speaker 6: reflected in the EU's new Migration and Asylum Pact adopted
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  Speaker 6: in April, or in political proposals to send refugees to
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  Speaker 6: third countries, both of which raised major human rights questions.
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  Speaker 6: It's almost like they're wagging the finger at Hungary, who
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  Speaker 6: has said you can keep sending illegals here, We're just
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  Speaker 6: going to bust them to brush those and Germany, who
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  Speaker 6: has recently announced much more strict border control after they
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  Speaker 6: copped a belting at the state election and the federal
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  Speaker 6: government there got really worried because their elections coming up
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  Speaker 6: less than a year from now. Why is it that
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  Speaker 6: everyone's allowed to enjoy living amongst white people in nations
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  Speaker 6: founded by.
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  Speaker 5: White people, except for white people.
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  Speaker 6: If we want to keep Hungary for Hungarians, or as
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  Speaker 6: Wilders said at nauseum during the debates in the Netherlands,
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  Speaker 6: we want to keep the Netherlands Dutch.
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  Speaker 5: We are being overrun.
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  Speaker 6: And I promise you I'm going to fix that. Why
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  Speaker 6: is it only white countries who were ever demonized for saying, hey,
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  Speaker 6: we kind of like things the way they are.
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  Speaker 5: We want to keep our country Dutch. We yet builted
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  Speaker 5: for it.
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  Speaker 6: I mean here in Australia that ship has sailed with
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  Speaker 6: one in three not even born in the country. But
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  Speaker 6: these are countries who this is via mass immigration, only
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  Speaker 6: quite a lot of it illegal, and they're trying to
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  Speaker 6: save their country.
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  Speaker 3: It's a strange thing, isn't it. Because you don't have
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  Speaker 3: any politicians in Africa. And I love Africa, have been
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  Speaker 3: the many times, but you don't have any African politicians
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  Speaker 3: saying Africa's too black, We've got to change it.
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  Speaker 2: It's only more Asians exactly.
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  Speaker 3: It's certainly in Europe where Europeans are a danger to Europe.
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  Speaker 2: This report from the.
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  Speaker 3: European Council was called Welcome to barbieland which detailed the
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  Speaker 3: fact that migrants arrive in Europe to find it's not
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  Speaker 3: the utopia they imagined because they feel alienated. Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you could always go back to where you came from
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  Speaker 3: people like you, but no, no, that's not the solution.
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  Speaker 3: They've got to get rid of whiteness. The other thing
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  Speaker 3: about this report that I thought was really interesting is
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  Speaker 3: they said the problem in Europe at the moment is
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  Speaker 3: that too many Europeans are thinking that Europe is an
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  Speaker 3: ethnic group. But it's a sentiment, quote unquote. They've actually
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  Speaker 3: said Europe is a sentiment. And here's the irony, Right,
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  Speaker 3: what is this European sentiment? Well, it consists of three things, secularism, equality,
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  Speaker 3: and universalism. So in order to increase the sentiment of secularism,
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  Speaker 3: they're importing millions of people who are Muslims.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't work.
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  Speaker 3: In order to increase the sentiment of equality, they're importing
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  Speaker 3: millions of people who say that women should be subjugated
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  Speaker 3: or treated differently, that people with a different religion are
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  Speaker 3: second class citizens. And in order to increase the sentiment
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  Speaker 3: of universalism, they're importing millions of people who believe the
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  Speaker 3: Quran is the truth, the only truth. So they're completely
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  Speaker 3: hypocritical and contradictory. It makes no sense at all, and
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  Speaker 3: they're destroying one of the great continents of the world.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: The first point is that nowhere engages in self loathing
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: quite like the West, Right, I mean, we, we're not
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: we you and I love where we live, but the
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: West engages in this terrible self loathing as a consequence
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: of the fact that socialists want to take over the
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: joint And what's the easiest way to do that than
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: to convince people that the countries they live in are
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: terrible and they've committed atrocities, et cetera.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: So once we convince them, why everyone else.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: We've convince them that it's terrible, no culture exists, and
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: then socialism can move in and take over. But the
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: report has completely missed the point. Europeanness is not the
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: reason that the EU is in trouble. It's the fact
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: that people just want control of their own countries. That's
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: got nothing to do with your ethnicity or race. It's
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: a matter of fact that you are a citizen of
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: a country, right, you have a right to vote democratically
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: in that country, and you would prefer that the country
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: of which you are a citizen is not taken over
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: by people who are not citizens. Right. The problem here
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: is that the EU as a group has decided what
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: rules other countries must follow, them member states must follow,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: and the individual countries are starting to push back. It's
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: not a problem of oh, you know, too many white people,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: or you know, we're too European. It's not about the
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: europe thing at all. It's that Italy wants to be Italy,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: and France wants to be France, and Hungary wants to
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: be Hungry. They're not saying no, no, no, we hate the
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: idea of Europe. Europe is a continent. You can't just
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: cast away the continent. They don't like the idea that
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: nation states, individual nation states must be beholden to some
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: sort of larger outfit. That's what the real problem is here.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: If the EU actually governed for the people who are
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: citizens of European countries, there would be no problem. They're
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: not saying we must have only white people in Europe.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: They're just saying, well, those of us who've actually signed up,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: born here or signed up as citizens, we just want
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: our place to be run properly pleased. That's what it's about.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: And the European Union's argument is so weak because they
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: compared the whiteness of the European Parliament to the diversity
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: of melanin at the European Football Championships at the Summer Olympics,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: and they even went so far as to say, look,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: at the Eurovision Song contest. There was way more diversity
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: of color of skin there than in the European Parliament,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: which is apparently a slam dunk argument. That's just because
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Parliament must represent Eurovisions.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Dancing. I mean we all know that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: Come, what do you think it was going to accept that?
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Those SAIDs it all.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Now we're going to talk about the anniversary of October
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: seven a little later when we get to the papers,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: but let's talk about the ABC for a moment, because
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: they have reminded the staff that Hamas and Hezbolla should
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: be routinely referred to as terrorist organizations because they are
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: terroist organizations, which begs the question, why would you need
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: to remind ABC staff that these terroist organizations should be
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: called terrorist organizations. Well, you may remember back in November
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: two hundred, ABC staff called for a meeting with executives
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: to complain about what they saw as unfair coverage of
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: the conflict in the Middle East. Unfair to Palestine, they believed.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: But it goes on, and the ABC have made other changes,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: advising media staff that they should refer to Israel's incursion
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: into Lebanon not as an incursion but as an invasion.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Mark Malley, who's the ABC manager of editorial policies for News, said,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: we're confirming here that we are now describing the current
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: actions of Israel on the Lebanese side of the border
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: as a land invasion. Now people understandably upset about this, Caleb,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: because there's no suggestion Israel.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Trying to take over Lebanon.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: They have had Hesbala firing rockets for eleven months, seventy
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: thousand Israelis or more displaced. Finally, Israel have decided we
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: cannot tolerate this any longer. We're going to go across
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: the border. We're going to take out these missile batteries.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: In doing that, they found tunnels which would have been
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: used for another October seven but from the north. So
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: they've decided, well, we better destroy those, and they're endeavoring
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: to push HESBLA back to the point that was decided
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: in two thousand and six by the United Nations that
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: HESBLA should be though it's never been enforced by the
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: United Nations who made that decision.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: So to say Israel.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Are invading Lebanon, does that not give an entirely false
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: perspective on what is really happening.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: When you get into the semantics of it, it sort
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: of suggests they're going in to take the land.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: It certainly does.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: The objective is not to go in an octupa Lebanon.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: The objective is just to push his Bla far enough
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: fact that they no longer are a threat to the
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: North of Israel. You're not going in there to take
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: the joint over, right. But the fact that the ABC
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: would even need to send out a directive on the
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: language that needs to be used to describe such an event,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: I find extraordinary. The fact that they need to send
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: out a directive to remind people that Hezbala mas terrorist organizations.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: And I suppose it's no great surprise after what we
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: saw last week where an ABC reporter was asking Peter Dutton,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: you know what lads a terror organization? Oh no, maybe
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: it's got something to do with the fact. But not
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: only do they terrorize people in Lebanon, like the Christians
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: in Lebanon don't want his Bla there, they fired thousands
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: of rockets into the North of Israel. Sixty to eighty
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: thousand Israelis have not been able to live in their
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: homes in the North of Israel. As a result of
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: his blaff. No, no, no, they are not terrorists. It's
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: not like they have a plan to type out all
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: the infidels on the face of the earth. No, they're
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: not terrorists. Like how could you not think that they
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: are terrorists? And actually ask that question to the opposition leader?
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: What makes hez Blah terrorists more than anyone else? I mean,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: it is abundantly obvious every Western nation in the world
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: tas that hez Blah is a terror organization. But it
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: tells you who is in charge at the ABC right,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: and it's the animals running the zoo. That you would
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: even need to send down a directive like this to
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: tell them what they can and can't say or how
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: they should report. It is ridiculous, and they've conceded in
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: this email that you know not it. In not every
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: case are we going to be able to say hez
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: bla the designated terror organization. But it must be used
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: on a regular basis in TV, radio and online reporting
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: just to prove the point. It feels to me like
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: they're saying we need to like overcompensate now and every
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: time we talk about hez Blah, just mention the fact
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: that they're a terror a organization, so it doesn't look
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: like that reporter who was talking to Dutton last week
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: spoke on behalf of the ABC. I just find it
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: extraordinary that a media organization would need to do that
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: in Australia.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I think it'd be wonderful if the ABC continued to
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: overcompensate for them.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: He'll be a good, great day.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: And with regards that ABC reporter who asked Peter Dutton
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: why says designated as a terrorist organization? The ABC response
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: to that from management is that's concerned about the welfare
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: of that particular reporter, all right, as they might.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: We're concerned about the intelligence levels of.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: That particular reporter.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: To the US now, where President Trump has returned to
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: the scene of the crime where his life was saved
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: by a bullet because he turned his head to look
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: at an immigration chart. He's back in Butler, Pennsylvania, and
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: he had a very humorous way of picking up where
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: he left up.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: We love Pennsylvania. And as I was saying, oh, I
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: love that I love that chart. I love that graph.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Isn't it a beautiful thing.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: He's famously thanks that chart for saving his life because,
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: as we know, if he had not turned his head
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: the very millisecond that he did in order to talk
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: about that chart, he would not be alive today. Also
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: joining him in Butler, Pennsylvania was Elon Musk himself, who
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: took to the stage to remind people this is a
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: do or die election.
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: There's no true test encourage under fire. We had one
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: president who couldn't climb a flight of stairs and another
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: who was after getting shot. The other side wants to
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: take away your freedom of speech. They want to take
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: away your right to bear arms. That it's we're they
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: want to take away your right to vote.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: Effectively, So here he is in this battleground state. No
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: doubt it was going to result in a lot of
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: people flocking to register to vote. Indeed, that was partly
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: the idea of it. Pennsylvania is famously a very tight state.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: Trump won it back in twenty sixteen.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: By point seventy two percent.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: How's that for a tight margin, And when Biden won
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: it back in twenty twenty was just one point seventeen percent.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: So that's to give you an idea of just how
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: tight it is when we're talking about Pennsylvania. Pretty much
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: nobody ever knows how this state is going to go
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: at a federal election. So it was with great interest
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: that we learned today that the State Department in Pennsylvania
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: decided to announce that this day, the day of Trump's
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: triumphant return to Butler, Pennsylvania, their voter registration polls are
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: going to be down online because they had some site
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: maintenance to do. How's this for dirty cheating tactics. I mean,
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: these guys, it seems every week we touch on another.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: Way in which they are cheating in the broad light
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: of day. Last week we were talking about.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: Arizona being sued by the Department of Justice because they'd
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: wiped off three thy two hundred illegal immigrants off their
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: voter registration polls, and the DOJ Biden's Department of Justice
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: isn't having a bar of it. No, you've got to
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: leave them on. Suddenly, we do want illegals voting in
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: this election every single day if not weak Now in
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: the lead up to this election, there's another story how
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: these guys are just tweaking it in the Blue team's favor.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: So around about twenty third of September, Trump announces I'm
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: going to go back to Butler, and of course voting
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: is not compulsory. So the big reason for these rallies
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: is to mobilize people to register and vote.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, So twenty third of September, we're going to go
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: to Butler, and then on the thirtieth of September or
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: the first of October somewhere in there, the Pennsylvania State
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Department says, we're going to do maintenance on the voter
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: registration website. Trump stands up to speak at five PM.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: The maintenance starts at six pm and goes to midnight.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Just the coincidence, I am sure. Of course, when Lara
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Trump called this out, she heads up the Trump campaign,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: they decided we better do the maintenance from ten pm.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: So they did change it, but only after being.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Caught, and only by a matter of hours.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: I can't believe that this is not illegal at a
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: federal level in the US, because when we talked about
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: that story a couple of weeks ago, where they were
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: going after the fact that illegal voters had been removed
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: from the role, the rule was that you couldn't do
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: that after ninety days, and the decision had come through
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: eighty four days or something. Right, Surely there should be
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: a rule that says at least ninety days out from
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: an election, states should have their voter registration systems up
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: and read it to go like we are dead, sit
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: right in the middle of the eye of the storm
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: in this election campaign, and it is at this point
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: that they're doing maintenance on their systems, Like this is
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: the most basic stuff that should have been done a
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: long time ago. Can you imagine if the Australian Electoral
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Commission barely a month out from a federal election said sorry,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: the websites are going down, we're doing maintenance. There would
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: be a massive outcry. We would not copy it. But
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: for some reason in the US, because it's all left
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: up to individual states. Oh, it's so much more complicated
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: and we couldn't possibly do anything about it. Like, you know,
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: I'm not always in favor of the feeds coming in
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: and taking control of things, but this should be such
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: an obvious one. If you can't log on and register
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: to vote a month out from an election, something is
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: seriously wrong.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: Caleb Caleb Caleb, the sweet naivety of being twenty five,
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: So you genuinely believe that they did have maintenance to
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: do it.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the situation. I
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: don't believe that I'm saying it should be illegal, Like
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: there should be no circumstance in which that can even
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: be put forward as a possibility that you have to
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: do maintenance a month out from an election, Like it
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: just seems like the most basic stuff that should not
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: even be possible. But no wonder they don't want you
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: to go on and register to vote, because if you
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: take a look at Kamala Harris, who is starting to
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: do a few little interviews here and there, she popped
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: up on a podcast called Call Her Daddy. It's one
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: of the most popular podcasts in the world. I can't
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: say that I'm a listener. You're probably not either, but yes,
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: it is one of the most popular podcasts in the world,
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: worth millions of dollars. Will who host it recently signed
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: a deal for upwards of sixty million dollars US. I
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: think it is to host this thing, so it is
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: big deal staff. But she was asked the big question
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: on Call Her Daddy, why is it that you don't
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: do a lot of sit down interviews, you know, traditional
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: format where you're there with a hard hitting journalist who
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: is going to ask you the questions that you need
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: to give a real response to why are you not
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: doing that and why are you talking to me instead?
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: And well, Kamala Harris said nothing, really.
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: I'm curious, like you don't do too many long form interviews.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: What made you want to do Color Daddie today.
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: Well, I think you and your listeners have really got
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: this thing right, which is one of the best ways
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: to communicate with people is to be real, you know,
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: and to talk about the things that people really care about.
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: What I love about what you do is that your
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: voice and your show is really about your listeners.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Show is about the listeners. Yeah, isn't every show. I mean,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: this show is about the viewers. When you go and
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: do a sit down interview, you don't Fox News or
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: see an inn. It's about the view it what does
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: she think the media is. It's just it's real. It's real,
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: by which she means I'm coming here because I know
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: that you're not going to ask me a hard question.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: The other crazy thing she said there is.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: She said, I love this podcast because the listeners are
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: seen and heard. Well, actually it's a podcast and their
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: listeners they're not heard. Brother, just wondering what people would rather,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: would you rather be seen and heard or would you
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: rather have the border crisis sorted.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: And relation come down? What's more important?
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: I mean, obviously she does these because she knows it's
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: going to be a free ride. See you doing any
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: one on ones hard hitting interviews talking about policy on
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: even the friendly networks. She's not popping up on CNN,
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: she's not popping up on CSNBC, even the people who
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: are barracking for her, the networks that are giving the
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: Democrats a tongue bath on the hour every single day
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: in the lead up to polling day, She's not going
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: on there to do any hard hitting questions because everybody
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: knows at this point in time she's not up for it.
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: So why on earth would you want that woman in
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: the White House? Come on, America, restore our faith in you.
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: But turning to CNN now, since we're talking about it,
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: someone who is facing the behemoth is Hillary Clinton? A
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: stranger to none of us, well known among the Dems.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: She's doing her own bit to up the blue vote.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: And here she is.
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: Saying outright what we're normally told in a far more
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: g teel way, which is she just states it directly.
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: If we lose control of what people can say on
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: social media. We lose control entirely.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: Check it out.
• 35:12
  Speaker 10: We should be, in my view, repealing something called Section
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: two thirty, which gave platforms on the Internet to immunity
• 35:21
  Speaker 10: because they were thought to be just passed throughs, that
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: they shouldn't be judged for the.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Content that is posted.
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: But we now know that that was an overly simple
• 35:30
  Speaker 10: view that if the platforms, whether it's Facebook or Twitter
• 35:35
  Speaker 10: x or Instagram or TikTok, whatever they are, if they
• 35:39
  Speaker 10: don't moderate and monitor the content, we lose total control.
• 35:44
  Speaker 10: And it's not just the social and psychological effects.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: It's real harm. God forbid, you lose total control. God forbid.
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: People can exchange information freely and fairly in democratic nations.
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: I mean, I love it when they just say it outright.
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, we know that is their agenda.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Here.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: We've got our mis stairs information. The federal government's combating
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: it the hate speech laws again, just clamping down on
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: free speech.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: But every now and then one.
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: Of the parties wheels out someone, particularly in America, who
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: just says it like it is. That's what we're afraid of.
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: We're going to lose total control. And what she was
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: saying there is entirely disingenuous because we know those platforms,
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: by law, do have to monitor content. Things like child
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: pornography must be taken down. As Elon Musk has stated,
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: if someone poses something that breaks laws in any country,
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: we delete it. We have people working around the clock
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: to achieve that.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Isn't Hillary Clinton the person who paid a huge sum
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: of money for a dossier full of misinformation front I mean,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: but the arrogance of these people. Now, John Carey, we
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: talked about him last week where he came out and
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: said that the First Amendment is a major problem for democracies.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're not even trying to hide their intentions now.
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  Speaker 3: Of course Hillary Clinton, they're talking to Sea and n
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: begs the question when she says we risk losing control?
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Who is the wi and I suspect Hillary Clinton believes
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  Speaker 3: the Wii is me as in.
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  Speaker 2: Herself exactly as a class the elites.
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  Speaker 4: And I have some sympathy for the idea that social
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: media companies should be responsible for what is posted on
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: their platforms in so far as they are a publisher.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: So if you're publishing defamatory content, well you should be
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: held responsible in the same way that Sky newses or
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: that a newspaper is if defamatory content is published. But
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: what she is talking about enforcing them to moderate their
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: content or if they refuse to do it, some other
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: entity doing it. What is that entity that is the
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: big problem. Much like here in Australia the Misinformation Disinformation Bill,
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: we're talking about a government entity deciding what you can
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: and cannot say on social media. And when a government
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: entity is in control, it means that government has a
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: level of control. And then we're looking at dictatorship. Before
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: we go to the break, have a look at this
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: footage out of Melbourne. Now there's a little saying that
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: goes around online which is f around and find out,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: and that's exactly what happened to this bloke. You might
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: have heard about the tobacco wars down in Melbourne, which
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: is gangs that are rivaling each other to get control
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: of the illegal tobacco market. What you're seeing here is
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: the owner of a tobacconist who's just watched a member
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: of one of these gangs running to his shop planning
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: to fire vomit. The owner has in his hands an
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: acts and within a matter of moments you watch the
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: bloke be HEA's just walked into vibe bomb the joint,
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: come back out and he is faced by the owner
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  Speaker 4: with an ACT, who takes him down to the ground
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  Speaker 4: and says, buddy, you have come to the wrong shop.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: I tell you what, I would not want to be
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: that bloke. But you can't blame people in these circumstances.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: We want the cops to be able to intervene, but
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: all too often now we see it doesn't happen, whether
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: it's youth crime, etc. This is what people have got
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: to do.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: Vigilante justice.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: See what that bandit would have needed a smoke with
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: the acts. We're going to go to a break.
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  Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: including researchers being given five hundred thousand dollars of your
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: money to find out if Australia really is good by sea. Okay,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: welcome back. Let's take a look at what's making news
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: tomorrow in the papers. Caleb, you've got the Australian.
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  Speaker 4: Indeed, I do unlike many of the papers tomorrow, it
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: is covering the protests and demonstrations we saw today. Of course,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: October the seventh being the first anniversary of the Hamas
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Terra attacks on Israel, where nearly twelve hundred people were killed.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: It says on the front of the Australian Tomorrow, palpaple
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  Speaker 4: anger at real pole problem. A sheik who celebrated the
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: October seven massacre has told hundreds of people rallying outside
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  Speaker 4: the Lakember Mosque in Sydney that the terror attack was
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: a quote unquote day of courage. One year on, as
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: concerns mount among labor operatives, the ALP's election chances are
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: in serious peril over anger at the plight of Palestinians. Now,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: we should note that only three hundred people turned up
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: to this demonstration, thank god. At least the message might
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: have gone through to some people that rocking up to
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: protest and celebrate October seven might not be a good look.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: And these protests have gained the praise of Hezbollah. So
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: if that doesn't tell you what it meant to demonstrate
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: on October the seventh, I don't know what does. As
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: I said a number of times last week, I will
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: defend your right to protest. Every single day of the week.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: You are allowed to protest against civilian deaths. That is
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: totally legitimate. When you demonstrate protest on October the seventh,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: the anniversary of a terror attack. You are only doing
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: so to signal your support for that terror attack. And
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: look at the comments being said here, Oh, it was
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: a great day, et cetera, et cetera. They could not
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: have made it more obvious what they were saying today.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure how much courage is required to
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: go into a music festival and kidnap young women.
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  Speaker 2: The gentleman who said it.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Was a day of courage, you said there were only
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: three hundred people at this gathering in Lakember, but they
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: were boasting it was being live streamed to Gaza and
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: that was a big deal. So you've literally got people
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: in Australia having a time to celebrate a terrorist attack
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: and then boasting that it's being live streamed to the
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: place where people are still to this day being held
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: hostages and these around neighbors in Western Sydney.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: It's hard to believe this.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: Sheik Ibrahim Dadoune, who addressed the crowd, has described October
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: seven as a day of courage. He called Israel a
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: bastard state of the West, and he said, in what
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: sounds like a rallying cry on what was the worst
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: day for Israel since World War Two, since the Holocaust.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: He said, quote, victim is coming soon. End quote.
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: So the very fact that you're stating that on the
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: anniversary of this horrendous day, it does smack of rallying
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: the troops, a rallying cry, and even a hint of repetition.
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: For you to say victory is coming soon. How else
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: can you interpret what this man has said?
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: And just on that, the other thing he said, which
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: should be a warning to many of our media outlets
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: and to the Labor Party, he also boasted that we
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: are winning the public relations battle, which shame on our
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: institutions and our politicians that those who are clearly supporting
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: terrorists can boast publicly We've got the media and we've
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: got the key institutions on our side.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Yes, Well, next time they stand up and call for
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: a cease fire, just to replay the comments here, you know,
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: victory is nih victory is nigh. Well, you don't have
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: a victory if you have a cease fire, do you.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Another story on the front of the Odds Tomorrow, death
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: of despair and obesity hit out under fifties. The so
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: called deaths of Despair dragon, alcohol related deaths plus suicide
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: and rising obesity rates that rival those in the US
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: have seen life expectancy for Australians under fifty stagnate for
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: the past five decades. This is a new study that's
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: come out said that Australians at older ages, especially men,
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: are living longer, but younger cohorts are falling behind many
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: other non English speaking high income countries because we live
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: terrible lifestyles now, I mean, how can this not be
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: so obvious. We're completely set andry, We're locked onto these
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: things all of the time. Kids now don't go out
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: and play in the street and they're all hold up
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: at home in their bedrooms, playing on their devices, etc.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: We eat worse than we've ever eaten. I mean, we
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: live in this world that is so rich and wealthy,
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: richer and wealthier than we've ever been. But I think
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: in many ways we've lost a lot of our wealth
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: in our health because we've adapted our lifestyles into a
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: way that is not good for the human body.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: It's interesting.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: It's also as well as everything you've mentioned, it's also
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: I think the social disconnection. It's more of a problem
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: amongst men as they get towards fifty, being dislocated from
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: family and other things like that. So you can bind
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: those two things together, then you get what the paper
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: calling deaths of despair, where especially men approaching fifty, start
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: to engage in behaviors to I guess compensate for other
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: losses in their life that then has an adverse effect
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: on their health.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you look at the quality of our food,
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: riddled with pfas, riddled with microplastics. That more and more
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: the science is piling up saying we've got a real
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: problem on our hands here. People's bodies are riddled with
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: this stuff and it's showing up later in life. There's
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: a reason why the US spend two one hundred and
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: fifty billion dollars every single year on what they say
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: is the side effects on people's bodies of constantly consuming
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: this stuff. We know that even the veggies and fruits
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: we buy do not have the nutrients value of the
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: same apple or carrot ten to fifteen years ago. Nothing
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: is being done to address just those everyday things, our
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: drinking water, et cetera, and so on. A lot of
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: people aren't even aware of just how badly they're doing
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: by their health because we're being let down by government
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: and even kids in school these days, they aren't taught about.
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: The importance of exercise.
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: They aren't taught about the fact that these things are
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: a lifelong investment. You don't want to hit forty five
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: and suddenly start caring about your fitness and your health
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: and your cholesterol levels.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: They're just not taught about how.
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: Just irreplaceably important this is and that it will affect
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: you for the rest of your life.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: And of course, once upon a time you had to
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: do a lot more manual labor just to get anything done.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Now you can just do everything at the touch of
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: a button. Before we go, how good is this story?
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: Absurd research gets taxpayer millions. A three year university research
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: project seeking to disprove the protectionist myth that Australia is
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: an island continent girt Bye Sea, has been awarded nearly
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: five hundred thousand dollars in tax bay of funding as
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: part of a grant program that no longer has government vetos.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: I mean what we need research into whether we are
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: a continent island surrounded by sea. He's another contract. I
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: wont give me that five hundred grand I can rather
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: report on that.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: A woman applies for a job in nineteen seventy six
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: gets a reply just this week.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: It's coming up in a moment.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Well, if you've applied for a job recently and you're
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: getting a little bit worried because you haven't heard back,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: take heart.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: It could be a lot lot worse.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Tissy Hodson applied for a job as a motorcycle stunt
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: rider in nineteen seventy six and had her application returned
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: to her just this week, which was a bit of
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: a pity because she was in her early twenties when
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: she applied to be a stunt motorcycle rider. Now she's
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: in her seventies and probably not as able. The post
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: office apologized, saying they found the response down behind a
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: chest of draws tissiods, and said how they found me
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: when I've moved house fifty odd times and even moved
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: countries four or five times is a mystery. It means
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: so much to me to get it back all this
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: time later. I remember very clearly sitting in my flat
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: in London typing the letter every day. I looked for
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: my post but there was nothing there and I was
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: so disappointed because I really really wanted to be a
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: stunt rider on a motorcycle. Well, she didn't let the
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: lack of response.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Get to her.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: She ended up going to Africa, where she became a
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: snake handler and later on became an aerobatic pilot. So
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: it worked out all right. She wasn't a motorcycle rider,
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: you know. Back in nineteen seventy six Live, she said,
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I deliberately didn't put on my application that I was
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: female because I didn't want that to count again.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: And I also put in.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: My application I am happy to break every bone in
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: my body if that's what it takes. I just want
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: this what could have been able only the postal service
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: had got the response back to her in time.
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: Better late than never.
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: But before we leave you tonight, there's a new book
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: out called The Achievements.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: Of Kamala Harris.
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: It's already achieved bestseller status on Amazon and racked up
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: a flurry of five star reviews. There's just one catch.
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: Check out this video that's gone viral showcasing the book.
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: So far, over two million people worldwide have watched this.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: See if you can guess why in my time? You
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: kidding me.
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: Now, that's what I call a brutally honest read.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: I love.
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: I thought that was pretty I've gone to the effort
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: of publishing this.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I thought was impressive. I was actually expecting a lot less.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: That's a very good There were actually chapter titles in there.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: What they were, we don't actually know. It reminds me
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: John Laws apparently has a book in his library at
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: home entitled All My Friends in Radio And when you
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: open it up, all the pages.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Of LA that's it from us. But stick around the
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: coming up just to read a Penney show that's up
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: in a moment.