Latest / Reformed Thinking / The Necessity of the Atonement | Jonathan Edwards
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- 0:00Welcome you, the listener to Reformed Thinking.
- 0:03This is where we take a deep dive into doctrines that really
- 0:06shape how we understand God and His ways.
- 0:11Glad to be diving in again. Today we have our expert guide
- 0:14back with us, ready to help unpack A theological challenge.
- 0:17It's one that, well, it's exercised some very sharp minds
- 0:21over the years. Jonathan Edwards, for instance.
- 0:23His thinking still resonates so much today.
- 0:26He called this one of the Gordian knots of theology.
- 0:29That's a great description, a real puzzle.
- 0:31Yeah, and it has perplexed many. So the core question, what we're
- 0:34really facing here is this. How can forgiveness be shown in
- 0:38Scripture as, on one hand, an act of most free and abundant
- 0:42grace? You know, something given
- 0:43freely, no cost to us. Right.
- 0:45Completely unearned. But then at the same time, it's
- 0:48presented as a direct consequence of redemption by the
- 0:51blood of Christ, which sounds like a very specific a very high
- 0:54price was paid. It really does seem
- 0:55contradictory on the surface. Exactly how can something be
- 0:58truly free if there's a clear cost involved?
- 1:01It pulls in what feel like opposite directions.
- 1:04So our mission today is to work through these sources you've
- 1:07brought from Edwards and show how God's perfect justice and
- 1:10his merciful grace actually fit together perfectly, how they
- 1:13display his wisdom and goodness. That's the goal, to see the
- 1:18consistency there. So let's start by looking
- 1:20closely at this, the seeming tension Edwards brings up right
- 1:23away. He points us to Ephesians
- 1:26chapter one, verse 11. Yes, that key verse.
- 1:28It says in whom we have redemption through his blood,
- 1:32the forgiveness of sins according to the riches of his
- 1:34grace. Now that sounds beautiful,
- 1:36complete, right? It does.
- 1:38But Edward sees a real conceptual challenge underneath
- 1:41that phrase. Riches of his grace.
- 1:44It suggests A pardon that's totally unearned, a free gift
- 1:47from God's kindness. Boundless kindness, yeah.
- 1:49But then the verse also says this forgiveness comes through
- 1:52his blood, which implies redemption, a buying back a
- 1:56price paid. How can forgiveness be an act of
- 1:59such generous grace if it's well purchased and the price of it be
- 2:03already paid? Yeah, it feels like you can't
- 2:05have both a totally free gift and a transaction where a price
- 2:08is clearly laid down. That's it exactly.
- 2:10And Edwards calls it a seeming inconsistence.
- 2:13Yeah, in the sources we're looking at, the word forgiveness
- 2:16itself, it kind of carries grace within.
- 2:18It doesn't. It it does, yeah.
- 2:19It suggests clemency, you know, release from penalty you
- 2:22actually deserve. Yeah, and when Scripture adds
- 2:25according to the riches of his grace, it just seems to amplify
- 2:29that it points to something most free and abundant.
- 2:32Like grace overflowing. Precisely.
- 2:34A pardon flowing from God's goodness with absolutely no
- 2:38contribution from us. A generosity beyond anything we
- 2:41could expect or earn. But then you have the other
- 2:44phrase in whom we have redemption through his blood.
- 2:47That introduces a totally different feel, doesn't?
- 2:49It it does, redemption means buying back, paying a ransom.
- 2:53Exactly. It points to a specific cost, a
- 2:56price that was laid down. And if a price was previously
- 2:59paid, then you know from 1 angle it starts to sound like a matter
- 3:03of debt. Like something owed because the
- 3:04condition was met, right? Which is where the puzzle comes
- 3:07in. If the price is paid, is it
- 3:09still genuinely free? How could it be most free and
- 3:12abundant if it was purchased? And Edwards admits this
- 3:16difficulty. It perplexed and embarrassed
- 3:19even really insightful theologians.
- 3:21He founded a tough knot himself, right?
- 3:23And for some people, trying to resolve this has actually LED
- 3:27them to reject the whole idea of the atonement of Christ's
- 3:31substitutionary death. They figure if God is merciful,
- 3:33he should just forgive, no payment needed.
- 3:36Yeah, that's the reasoning why the need for such a costly
- 3:39transaction if Grace is truly free.
- 3:41That really highlights why Edward saw this is such a
- 3:44critical issue. But what I find fascinating is
- 3:46how he tackles it. He doesn't just, you know, wave
- 3:48it away. No, not at all.
- 3:50He's very systematic. He breaks it down into 3 core
- 3:53questions, like a surgeon dissecting a problem, and he
- 3:56uses these questions to untangle that knot.
- 3:58We're going to follow his structure today.
- 4:00Good plan. What's the first question?
- 4:01First, he asks, is forgiveness truly obtainable only through
- 4:05Christ's atoning sacrifice? Not just a way, but the only
- 4:09way. OK, exclusive necessity.
- 4:11Second, what's the underlying reason, the ground for God
- 4:15choosing this specific mode of forgiveness?
- 4:17Why this way? The why behind the what?
- 4:19Exactly. And 3rd, Is this mode of
- 4:22forgiveness, the one requiring payment, actually consistent
- 4:25with grace, or as the verse says, according to the riches of
- 4:29grace? So is it truly gracious even
- 4:32with the price? Right.
- 4:34These three questions will basically guide our whole
- 4:37conversation today, leading us through Edwards thinking.
- 4:40Excellent. Let's start with that first one,
- 4:42then the exclusive necessity. OK, so to really untangle this,
- 4:45Edwards first hits us with that fundamental question, Is
- 4:49Christ's atonement absent? Absolutely the only way to find
- 4:52forgiveness? Not just a good way, the best
- 4:54way, but the exclusive way. And the sources you provided,
- 4:58they just pile up the biblical evidence saying yes,
- 5:01unequivocally yes. They really do.
- 5:03The scriptures are remarkably consistent on this.
- 5:06They very clearly teach, as Edwards puts it, that Christ's
- 5:10atonement is the singular non negotiable path.
- 5:12Where does he start with the evidence?
- 5:14Well, Ephesians 1.11, which we already mentioned is
- 5:16foundational, in whom we have redemption through His blood,
- 5:19the forgiveness of sins. Forgiveness is tied directly to
- 5:22that redemption through blood, no daylight between them.
- 5:25Then you have Romans 3.24 adding that we are justified freely by
- 5:29His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
- 5:33The free grace comes through that specific redemption.
- 5:36It's not grace floating free, detached from Christ's work.
- 5:40So grace isn't bypassing the redemption that flows through
- 5:43it. Exactly.
- 5:44Then Acts 20.28 talks about the church being purchased with his
- 5:47own blood. That's transaction language
- 5:49clear as day. Ownership established through
- 5:51cost. Hebrews 9.12 says Christ by His
- 5:55own blood He entered in once into the holy place, having
- 5:58obtained eternal redemption for us.
- 6:00His blood is the key, the means of our eternal rescue.
- 6:03And first Peter 1 verses 18 and 19 really drives it home.
- 6:07We were not redeemed with corruptible things as silver and
- 6:10gold, but with the precious blood of Christ.
- 6:12It stresses the unique incomparable value in necessity
- 6:16of His sacrifice. Nothing else compares or could
- 6:19substitute. Precious blood.
- 6:20Not just any blood. Right, and Peter continues this
- 6:23in chapter 2, verse 24, saying Christ his own self bear our
- 6:26sins in his own body on the tree by whose stripes you were
- 6:29healed. That substitutional language He
- 6:32took our sins. He bore them.
- 6:34Yes, and think back even further to Isaiah 53, verses 4 to
- 6:386/10/12. That vivid picture of the
- 6:41Suffering Servant bearing our griefs, sorrows, wounded for our
- 6:45transgressions. The Lord hath laid on him the
- 6:48iniquity of us all. He made his soul an offering for
- 6:51sin. It's an incredible prophecy.
- 6:53And all these passages together, they just lock forgiveness and
- 6:56healing directly to Christ's sacrificial death.
- 6:59They don't just hint at it, they declare it as the actual
- 7:01mechanism God uses. It's striking how consistently
- 7:05that link is made. Blood sacrifice, Forgiveness.
- 7:09But Edwards also points out this isn't some brand new idea in the
- 7:11New Testament, right? He sees it foreshadowed in the
- 7:14Old Testament. Well, absolutely.
- 7:15That's a key part of his argument.
- 7:17He says the ancient Israelite sacrifices described in such
- 7:20detail in the law, they all point to Christ.
- 7:22They show the necessity of a vicarious sacrifice, a
- 7:25substitute offering made for someone else.
- 7:27They weren't just rituals for rituals sake.
- 7:29No, they were divine object lessons.
- 7:32Think about the Day of Atonement, the scapegoat.
- 7:34Sins laid on it, sent away another animal sacrifice, blood
- 7:38sprinkled. It painted a picture.
- 7:40Sin requires a life, a substitute.
- 7:42Paul even calls Christ our Passover sacrifice for us in
- 7:46First Corinthians 5.7. The Lamb's blood protected the
- 7:49Israelites. Christ's blood protects us, but
- 7:51eternally or. The Passover connection.
- 7:53And Ephesians 5.2 says Christ given himself for us an offering
- 7:57and a sacrifice to God, using that Old Testament sacrificial
- 8:00language. Hebrews 9.26 says He appeared to
- 8:04put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
- 8:06So the Old Testament system wasn't an alternative, but a
- 8:08picture. Exactly, Edward's point is just
- 8:11like the ancient Israelites only got pardoned through those
- 8:14God-given sacrifices, The typology teaches us that we only
- 8:17get party through Christ's sacrifice.
- 8:19The old system was a shadow pointing to the one ultimate
- 8:22reality in Christ. It prefigured the path.
- 8:25OK, so the Old Testament sets the stage with types and
- 8:28shadows. Then the New Testament comes
- 8:30along, and Edwards shows it moves from hints to just
- 8:33unmistakable declarations about Christ's unique role.
- 8:37It's not subtle anymore, Not at all.
- 8:39The New Testament writers are incredibly direct about the
- 8:42absolute necessity of Christ's suffering and death.
- 8:45Look at Luke 24. The resurrected Christ
- 8:47explaining to the disciples, ought not Christ to have
- 8:49suffered these things and later thus it behooved Christ to
- 8:52suffer. It wasn't just what happened,
- 8:54it's what had to. Happen.
- 8:55It behooved him. It was necessary, yes.
- 8:57Then Romans 3.2526 Paul says God set forth Christ to be a
- 9:02propitiation through faith in his blood, that he might be just
- 9:06and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
- 9:08Propitiation. That's the key term.
- 9:10What exactly does that mean? I go.
- 9:12It means an atoning sacrifice that specifically satisfies
- 9:15divine wrath and justice. It turns away God's righteous
- 9:18anger against sin. And the implication Paul draws
- 9:21is huge. Without Christ as that
- 9:24propitiation, God could not have been just in justifying the
- 9:27believer. Wow, so God's own justice
- 9:29required it for him to be able to justify us?
- 9:32That's what Paul argues. Without Christ's death, God
- 9:35faced an impossible tension between his justice against sin
- 9:38and his desire to show mercy. OK then John 3 uses the image of
- 9:43Moses lifting the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of
- 9:47Man be lifted up. Just as that was the only remedy
- 9:50for the snake bite, Christ lifted up is the only remedy for
- 9:53sin. Hebrews 9.22 gives us that stark
- 9:56line without shedding of blood is no remission, no release from
- 10:00sins penalty without it. Simple and direct.
- 10:03And 1st Corinthians 3.11 other foundation can no man lay, and
- 10:07that is laid which is Jesus Christ.
- 10:09He is the sole basis. And Acts 4.12 is maybe the most
- 10:13sweeping statement. Neither is there salvation in
- 10:16any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among
- 10:19men, whereby we must be saved. No other name.
- 10:21It's exclusive. Absolutely exclusive.
- 10:23These aren't suggestions, they're definitive statements of
- 10:25necessity. So, given all this biblical
- 10:27weight, what's Edwards's final word on the necessity of
- 10:30Christ's death? He makes an interesting argument
- 10:32just from the fact that it happened.
- 10:33He does. It's quite powerful.
- 10:35He basically asks us to consider the logic.
- 10:38If Christ's death wasn't necessary, then he died in vain.
- 10:41Which is. Unthinkable.
- 10:43Completely unthinkable, Edwards argues.
- 10:45Neither Christ in his perfect wisdom and love, nor the Father
- 10:49in his perfect plan, would ever consent to such an agonizing
- 10:52death if it weren't absolutely necessary for some incredibly
- 10:55important and valuable and. Even basic human wisdom wouldn't
- 10:59allow such a sacrifice without necessity.
- 11:01Right. A good person wouldn't consent
- 11:03to their own death or their child's death unless it was
- 11:06unavoidable for a greater good. But then Edwards really drives
- 11:09it home by pointing to Gethsemane, Christ's prayer in
- 11:12Matthew 20.390. My father, if it'd be possible,
- 11:16let this cup pass for me nevertheless.
- 11:19Not as I will, but as thou wilt. Such an agonizing prayer.
- 11:22And we know from John 11.42 that the Father heareth him always.
- 11:26So the fact that this prayer wasn't answered, the cup wasn't
- 11:28removed, Edward says. That's clear evidence that his
- 11:31death was a matter of absolute necessity for God's plan to save
- 11:35sinners. If there had been any other way.
- 11:37The father who always heard his son would have provided it.
- 11:40The father's refusal, despite the son's agony, underlines that
- 11:44absolute necessity. That is.
- 11:45Powerful. And Paul also brings the law
- 11:47into this right in. Galatians he does very
- 11:50forcefully. Galatians 2.21 is a cornerstone
- 11:53here. If righteousness come by the
- 11:54law, then Christ is dead in vain.
- 11:57And Edwards clarifies, this isn't just about the ceremonial
- 11:59law. Correct.
- 12:00He makes it clear Paul means the moral law to God's perfect
- 12:04standard of holiness. He points to Galatians 3.21.
- 12:08If there had been a law given which could have given life,
- 12:11verily righteousness should have been by the law.
- 12:13But no law could give life to sinners.
- 12:15Exactly because no law, not even God's perfect moral law, could
- 12:19impart life to fallen humans who couldn't keep it perfectly.
- 12:23It follows directly that forgiveness in life cannot come
- 12:25by the law. If they could, if we could earn
- 12:28righteousness by law keeping. Then Christ died in vain.
- 12:31Precisely. His death becomes meaningless,
- 12:34unnecessary. So this makes it crystal clear
- 12:37salvation through Christ isn't just an option, it's the only
- 12:40path God established. Because every other path,
- 12:43especially human effort through the law, just falls completely
- 12:46short of God's perfect standard. OK, that firmly establishes the
- 12:50what Atonement is necessary and exclusive.
- 12:53Now let's move to Edward's second inquiry.
- 12:55This goes deeper, doesn't it? The why?
- 12:58What is the reason? The ground for this specific
- 13:01mode of forgiveness? Why Atonement?
- 13:03Yes. Why this particular solution?
- 13:06Edwards argues that the necessity of atonement rests on
- 13:09the very same ground as the necessity of punishment if
- 13:12atonement hadn't been made. So it's tied to the need for
- 13:14punishment. Fundamentally, yes.
- 13:16The primary reason, he says, is to maintain the authority of the
- 13:18divine law. Think about it, if God's law
- 13:21could just fall into contempt, if it could be disregarded
- 13:24without consequence. It would dishonor God Himself,
- 13:27the law. Exactly.
- 13:28It dishonors the legislator himself.
- 13:30God and his government would be weakened.
- 13:32His rule would lose its seriousness.
- 13:34What makes a law a real law And not just, you know, mere advice?
- 13:38Consequences A penalty. Right must have a penalty, and
- 13:42if that penalty is announced but never inflicted, when the law is
- 13:45broken, the law effectively becomes no law.
- 13:49It loses all its teeth, its credibility.
- 13:51And God would appear. Dishonorable and contemptible,
- 13:55Edwards says not carrying out the threat would imply some kind
- 13:58of weakness in God. Maybe he made a mistake in the
- 14:00law. Maybe he had a flawed design.
- 14:03Maybe he lacks the power to enforce it.
- 14:05None of which can be true of God.
- 14:07Absolutely not. His perfection, his consistency,
- 14:10demands his law be upheld. So this isn't just about rules,
- 14:14it's about the structure of God's entire rule over creation,
- 14:17His character. That's precisely it.
- 14:20Edwards argues that wherever you have intelligent creatures,
- 14:23God's wisdom and goodness require a moral government, and
- 14:25the government has to operate through a moral law.
- 14:28OK, so executing the law's threat, either on the center or
- 14:31a substitute, is necessary to preserve the dignity and
- 14:35authority of the law and of the author of it, and to the very
- 14:38existence of the divine moral government.
- 14:40The very existence of it, that's strong.
- 14:43It is without upholding the law. God can't really govern by law,
- 14:47meaning by rewards and punishments.
- 14:50He could govern by sheer force, maybe, but not through a moral
- 14:54framework, by inflicting the penalty or providing the
- 14:57substitute. Like the atonement, God acts
- 14:59consistently in the legislative and executive parts of his
- 15:02government. He makes the law and he enforces
- 15:05the law. And this consistency has a
- 15:07purpose for creation too. Yes, it will most powerfully
- 15:10tend to restrain all intelligent creatures from sin.
- 15:13Seeing the real consequences makes sin look serious, but the
- 15:17penalty is neglected. It will rather encourage and
- 15:20invite to sin like a parent who never follows through on
- 15:22discipline. Exactly that analogy.
- 15:24Children quickly learn there are no real consequences and things
- 15:27fall apart. God's moral governance isn't a
- 15:29suggestion. It's the foundation of cosmic
- 15:32order displaying his perfect righteousness.
- 15:34That really drives home the stakes.
- 15:36It's about the integrity of God's entire rule.
- 15:39But I can hear someone asking, couldn't God, being loving, just
- 15:43choose to pardon? Human governments show mercy
- 15:46sometimes, right? Why does God have to be so
- 15:49strict? Does Edwards address that
- 15:51comparison? He does, and he makes a very
- 15:53sharp distinction between divine and human governments.
- 15:56He acknowledges. Sure, human governments
- 15:59sometimes pardon criminals without getting full
- 16:01satisfaction for the law, maybe for reasons of state like King
- 16:06David pardoning Joab, or to get information, or just practical
- 16:10limitations. OK, so he sees that happens.
- 16:13But he immediately says these instances happen because of some
- 16:17weakness in the particular state of the government, or some
- 16:19imperfection in the laws, or just the general imperfection
- 16:22attending all human affairs. Human systems are flawed.
- 16:24They compromise, they make concessions.
- 16:26But God's government. Not any one of these is
- 16:28supposable in the divine government.
- 16:30God's laws are perfect. His government has no weakness.
- 16:34His wisdom is infinite. There are no reasons of state
- 16:36forcing God to compromise his justice.
- 16:38In fact, every time human laws aren't strictly executed, it
- 16:42actually weakens that human government.
- 16:45And for God, Edwards argues, pardoning sin without a
- 16:48tournament would imply he did not hate sin in every instance,
- 16:52or that he doesn't treat it as infinitely vile, which it is.
- 16:54It would suggest indifference to evil.
- 16:57Exactly. And indifference.
- 16:58That's impossible for a perfectly holy God.
- 17:01Unilateral pardon contradicts his character as the righteous
- 17:04judge. So the conclusion stands,
- 17:06without atonement, punishment was necessary every single time
- 17:10for every sin, which leads right back to the atonement as God's
- 17:14solution. Precisely.
- 17:15The atonement steps in as the substitute for the punishment
- 17:19threatened in the law. It's designed specifically to
- 17:21answer the same ends, upholding the law's authority, the dignity
- 17:25of God's government, and His consistency.
- 17:27So it achieves the same goals as punishment would have.
- 17:30Yes, through the atonement God shows that His law shall be
- 17:33supported, that it shall not be despised or transgressed with
- 17:36impunity, and that it is an evil and a bitter thing to sin
- 17:39against God. The whole idea, the very idea of
- 17:42an atonement or satisfaction for sin, Edward says, is something
- 17:45which, to the purposes of supporting the authority of the
- 17:48divine law, is equivalent to the punishment of the Sinner.
- 17:53It satisfies justice. And that satisfaction is what
- 17:56opens the door for pardon. It prepares the way for the
- 17:59dispensation of pardon. This way God can be just and yet
- 18:04the justifier of the center. He can forgive freely while
- 18:07upholding His absolute righteousness and the demands of
- 18:09His perfect law. It honors both His justice and
- 18:13His mercy. OK, we've established atonement
- 18:15is necessary to uphold God's law.
- 18:17But that brings up another question when people definitely
- 18:20ask Could we make atonement for our own sins?
- 18:23Can't I just fix things myself somehow?
- 18:25A very natural question, and Edwards addresses it directly.
- 18:28Quite forcefully, actually. His answer is a clear no.
- 18:31We could never have atone for our own sins.
- 18:34And he looks at a couple ways people might think they could do
- 18:36that. Right.
- 18:36He considers 2 main possibilities.
- 18:38One, through repentance and reformation changing our ways,
- 18:42and two, through enduring some lesser suffering.
- 18:45Maybe not the full penalty, but something.
- 18:47Let's take repentance first. It feels intuitive, doesn't it?
- 18:50If you're genuinely sorry and you stopped doing wrong,
- 18:53shouldn't that be enough? Lots of religions focus heavily
- 18:56on that. It feels intuitive, yes, but
- 18:59Edwards argues that while repentance and reformation are
- 19:02commanded and necessary, they're merely a mere return to our
- 19:06duty. We're just getting back to doing
- 19:08what we should have been doing all along.
- 19:10It doesn't cancel out the past wrongdoing.
- 19:13Exactly. It doesn't compensate for past
- 19:15transgressions. He uses that analogy of the
- 19:17deserting soldier. The soldier repents, comes back
- 19:20to the army. Does his return without
- 19:22punishment atone for his rebellion?
- 19:24Does it uphold military law? No.
- 19:27Returning to duty is just doing what he should never have
- 19:29stopped doing. OK, that makes sense.
- 19:31So Edward says if God forgave sinners barely on their
- 19:34repentance, it would effectively make the curse of the law
- 19:37repentance. The punishment for sin would be
- 19:40repentance. But repentance is a good thing,
- 19:42a blessing. Precisely.
- 19:44It would make the penalty for sin the greatest blessing
- 19:47someone could get, which Edwards argues would greatly encourage
- 19:52sin because who fears a blessing?
- 19:54As a consequence, it removes the deterrent entirely.
- 19:57Right, it wouldn't deter sin at all.
- 19:59And beyond that, it would fail to vindicate the character of
- 20:01God himself. It wouldn't show him as a friend
- 20:03to Virtue and an enemy device. Instead, God might appear as a
- 20:08friend to sin, advice or indifferent concerning them.
- 20:11Like that week Prince, he mentioned.
- 20:13Exactly like the week Prince pardoning all repentant
- 20:15murderers, he undermines his own law, endangers his people, seems
- 20:19indifferent to justice. God's perfect character requires
- 20:22satisfaction for the broken law, not just a change of heart going
- 20:26forward. OK, so repentance alone is an
- 20:28atonement. What about the other idea,
- 20:31suffering some punishment but maybe not the full penalty?
- 20:33Could we endure something lesser to make amends?
- 20:36Edward says no to that too. Suffering short of full
- 20:39punishment are insufficient. Why?
- 20:42Because the very idea of atonement requires something
- 20:45fully equivalent to the curse of the law, and it's effective
- 20:48upholding the law's authority. Equivalent.
- 20:51Not just similar, but equal in weight.
- 20:53Right. And no, suffering by the Sinner
- 20:55himself, if it's short of the curse of the law, can possibly
- 20:58be equivalent to that full curse.
- 21:01It's just logic. A less number or quantity cannot
- 21:04be equal to a greater. Furthermore, if a lesser
- 21:07punishment on the center was enough to satisfy the law, what
- 21:10would that imply about the law's original threat?
- 21:13That the original threat was too harsh, Unjust.
- 21:16Exactly. It would imply the punishment
- 21:18which is threatened in the law is too great, is unjust, is
- 21:22cruel and oppressive, which Edwards says cannot be as long
- 21:26as God is a just being. God's law is perfect, so it's
- 21:30penalty is perfectly just matching the infinite offense of
- 21:33sin against an infinite God. But Edwards does make a
- 21:36distinction here about Christ's suffering, doesn't he?
- 21:38How his suffering could be equivalent even if different in
- 21:41duration? Yes, this is crucial.
- 21:44He notes that because of Christ's infinite dignity and
- 21:47glory of His Person, His sufferings can be equivalent to
- 21:50the full curse, even if they were different in degree or
- 21:53duration than eternal punishment for all sinners.
- 21:56His unique identity gives His suffering infinite value and
- 21:59weight. How does he illustrate that?
- 22:01He uses an analogy. It would be a far more striking
- 22:04demonstration of a King's displeasure to publicly inflict
- 22:08a painful, humiliating punishment like 40 stripes on
- 22:11his own beloved son. That it would be to execute some
- 22:14obscure subject. The person's suffering makes a
- 22:17demonstration more powerful. So Christ's identity as the Son
- 22:21of God makes his suffering A sufficient infinite declaration
- 22:24of God's justice. Precisely.
- 22:26It perfectly demonstrates God's hatred of sin and satisfies the
- 22:29law's demands in a way no creature suffering ever could.
- 22:32So, bringing the section together, what's the bottom line
- 22:35for us as sinners seeking forgiveness?
- 22:37The bottom line is, it clearly appears that we could never have
- 22:40atone for our own sins. Our repentance, though
- 22:43necessary, doesn't pay the debt. Our suffering, short of God's
- 22:46full wrath, isn't enough. Therefore, if atonement is to be
- 22:50made, it must be made by some other person and given who
- 22:54Christ is appointed by God and the infinite nature of the task.
- 22:58It could be done by no other person of inferior dignity.
- 23:02Exactly. This locks in the necessity of a
- 23:04divine human mediator. Only someone with infinite worth
- 23:08could provide the infinite satisfaction required.
- 23:10OK. Now, Edwards doesn't just build
- 23:12his own case. He also directly engages with
- 23:15views that deny the necessity of atonement altogether.
- 23:18He really challenges their core assumptions, doesn't he?
- 23:20He does. He tackles hit on the idea that
- 23:23maybe Christ's death wasn't truly indispensable, or that God
- 23:26could have saved people some other way.
- 23:28He often addresses the Sossinian view, which emphasized God's
- 23:32mercy and tended to reject substitutionary atonement.
- 23:35How does he start challenging them?
- 23:36Well, he questions their idea that the main necessity of
- 23:39Christ's mission and death was just to give us the strongest
- 23:42motives to repentance, if that's all it was?
- 23:45Edwards asks. Could not God, by any revelation
- 23:48or motives otherwise, have led sitters to repent?
- 23:51And his evidence against that? The Old Testament Saints,
- 23:54Abraham, David, Moses, they repented, they found mercy.
- 23:59And this was before Christ's actual mission and death.
- 24:01So if he his death was only about providing motivation, it
- 24:05wasn't strictly necessary even for that purpose, because God
- 24:08motivated repentance before. That's a good point.
- 24:10What about those verses like other foundation, can no man
- 24:13lay? Right, he pushes back against
- 24:15the idea that versus like First Corinthians 3.11 or Acts 4.12,
- 24:20no other name are true only because God just arbitrarily
- 24:25made this constitution, just decided Christ would be the way.
- 24:28What's wrong with that view, according to Edwards?
- 24:30He argues it reduces Christ's necessity to being no other
- 24:33sense necessary then that a Sparrow should fall or not fall
- 24:37to the ground. It just makes it a matter of
- 24:39God's sovereign choice with no deeper reason given.
- 24:41It empties it of real grounding, yes.
- 24:43It resolves all into the sovereignty of God, Edward says,
- 24:46but then effectively confesses that no reason of Christ's
- 24:49mission and death is assignable beyond God just willing it.
- 24:52For Edwards, the reasons are deeply rooted in God's own
- 24:55character, his justice, his law, not just an arbitrary decree.
- 24:59OK, that's a subtle but key distinction.
- 25:02But the really sharp part, I think, is where Edwards points
- 25:04out a core inconsistency within their own system, especially
- 25:09regarding their principle that God must pardon anyone who
- 25:12repents. Yes, he sees a direct clash
- 25:14there. He highlights the inconsistency
- 25:17with pardon for repentance principle.
- 25:20The cornerstone for these Sicilian views was often that it
- 25:23is not reconcilable with the perfections of God to refuse a
- 25:26pardon to any who repent. God's goodness, they argued,
- 25:30demands he forgive the repentant.
- 25:31OK, but Edward says all right, if bear repentance and
- 25:34reformation be the ground of pardon, than anyone, even
- 25:37someone ever so ignorant of Christ and his death, is
- 25:40automatically entitled to pardon just by repenting.
- 25:43Which would make Christ death. Completely unnecessary.
- 25:46Even as a motivating factor, it directly contradicts their own,
- 25:49albeit weaker, admission that Christ's mission had some
- 25:52necessary purpose. If God's perfections require him
- 25:55to pardon mere repentance, then Christ's death becomes totally
- 25:58redundant. Their own principles undermine
- 26:01each other. Edwards then forces a choice,
- 26:03doesn't he, between law and gospel.
- 26:06He tries to make them define their terms under this
- 26:08alternative view. He does.
- 26:10He asked them straight up. Is this pardon for the penitent
- 26:13according to the divine law or according to the Gospel?
- 26:16If it's according to the law. If it's just a constitution of
- 26:19the law that every gets pardoned, then Edwards asks,
- 26:22what is the gospel? What's so special about it?
- 26:25Where in does the grace of the latter exceed that of the
- 26:28former? If the law itself guarantees
- 26:31pardon upon repentance, it must be a very gracious law, right?
- 26:35Which completely blurs the line between law and gospel.
- 26:38Yeah, it collapses the distinction.
- 26:40And Edwards pushes further. It has been commonly understood
- 26:43that the divine law is the rule of justice.
- 26:47If that rule of justice automatically provides acquittal
- 26:49for repentance, then surely there is no grace at all in the
- 26:53acquitter of the penitent. It's not a gift, it's just what
- 26:56justice demands. It becomes a legal right.
- 26:58No grace involved if it's just law.
- 27:01Right. And if the law guarantees
- 27:02impunity for penitence, then what is the law's curse?
- 27:06Edwards says. It gets reduced to either
- 27:07repentance itself or maybe the discipline which is necessary to
- 27:11lead to repentance. But neither of those is a curse.
- 27:14They are the greatest blessings. So their view ends up redefining
- 27:18and confusing all these core biblical ideas.
- 27:21Law, Gospel, justice, Grace, curse, Blessing.
- 27:24It really unravels things and then he presents that famous
- 27:26dilemma to just corner of the argument.
- 27:28Yes, the Sicinian dilemma. It's a brilliant argumentation.
- 27:32He presents 2 inescapable options.
- 27:33First Horn Eternal justice either requires that every
- 27:37penitent be pardoned in consequence of his repentance
- 27:39merely, or it does not. OK, option one.
- 27:43Justice requires pardon for repentance.
- 27:45What follows? If justice demands it, Edward
- 27:48says, the consequences are absurd and actually contradict
- 27:51their own claims about God's grace.
- 27:52First, pardon is an act of justice and not of grace, no
- 27:56gift involved. Second, repentance itself
- 27:59answers, satisfies, fulfills the divine law, meaning the law has
- 28:02no more claims. Repentance pays the debt.
- 28:05Third, this implies sin is no moral evil because it deserves
- 28:09no punishment beyond just repenting.
- 28:13And 4th, justice and grace, law and gospel become perfectly
- 28:17synonymous terms. They all blend together, losing
- 28:20their distinct biblical meanings.
- 28:22Edwards shows these outcomes are just unacceptable.
- 28:24So that horn of the dilemma seems impossible to hold.
- 28:27What's the other horn? The second horn What if eternal
- 28:30justice does not require that every penitent be pardoned just
- 28:33for repenting? Well, if justice doesn't require
- 28:35automatic pardon, then? Edwards asks.
- 28:38Who knows but that God may see fit to suffer justice in some
- 28:41instances to take place? It can't then be argued that
- 28:44God's perfections are utterly inconsistent with justice, or
- 28:48that God's law cannot be executed consistently with the
- 28:51divine character. Meaning if justice doesn't
- 28:53demand pardon, then God is free to actually execute justice.
- 28:57Exactly. So the only way out for those
- 28:59who deny atonement if they take the second horn, is to renounce
- 29:03the doctrine that the divine perfections required that every
- 29:05penitent be pardoned. Without an atonement.
- 29:08They have to give up their foundational principle.
- 29:10So either way, their view faces insurmountable problems,
- 29:13according to Edwards. That's the force of the dilemma.
- 29:16It presses the logical consequences of their own
- 29:18premises until the view collapses.
- 29:20So we've followed Edwards through the necessity of
- 29:22atonement, the reasons for it, the inadequacy of our efforts,
- 29:26and his critique of other views. Now we circle back finally to
- 29:29the Gordian knot we started with.
- 29:31Right back to Ephesians 1.11. How can forgiveness be both
- 29:35according to the riches of grace and in consequence of a
- 29:38redemption by the blood of Christ?
- 29:40How does Edwards resolve this seeming contradiction?
- 29:43The resolution comes from holding both truths firmly and
- 29:47understanding how they relate. First, we absolutely must
- 29:51reiterate forgiveness is an act of most free and abundant grace.
- 29:55It's freely and abundantly given by God.
- 29:57The word forgiveness implies it, and riches of grace emphasizes
- 30:01its extraordinary, unmerited nature, flowing only from God's
- 30:04goodness. OK, grace is absolutely central,
- 30:06central. But we must also reiterate that
- 30:10redemption through Christ's blood is absolutely necessary,
- 30:13necessary to uphold the authority and dignity of the
- 30:17divine law and government. Without it, God's character, His
- 30:22justice, His rule would be compromised.
- 30:24So the key is seeing how these two necessities work together,
- 30:27not against each other. Precisely.
- 30:29The consistency isn't found by downplaying one or the other,
- 30:33but by seeing how God's plan harmonizes them.
- 30:36And the grace is seen primarily in the provision and application
- 30:39of the atonement. OK.
- 30:40Break that down. Where is the grace specifically
- 30:42located? First, the price of redemption
- 30:45is paid by Christ, not by the Sinner.
- 30:47That's crucial. We the sinners do not personally
- 30:50earn, purchase, or pay anything for our own forgiveness.
- 30:53The debt is settled, yes, but by a substitute of infinite worth
- 30:56provided for us. So the grace is that the payment
- 30:59isn't demanded from us. Exactly.
- 31:01We are freed from a debt we could never possibly pay because
- 31:03another paid it. That itself is immense grace
- 31:06towards us. OK, what's the second aspect of
- 31:08grace? Second, God's provision of the
- 31:10Redeemer, Christ Himself, is an act of supreme grace.
- 31:15Think about it. The infinitely wise and good
- 31:17Father consented of the death of His only begotten and dearly
- 31:21beloved Son, as the sacrifice required.
- 31:23Back to Gethsemanegan. Yes, it wasn't a small thing.
- 31:27Christ's prayer wasn't granted because this sacrifice was
- 31:29absolutely necessary for God's plan.
- 31:31God Himself set forth Christ to be a propitiation.
- 31:35The grace here is breathtaking. God provides the necessary
- 31:38payment Himself through His own Son at infinite cost to Himself.
- 31:42He didn't just demand payment, He provided the payment.
- 31:45That is an incredible thought, God providing the sacrifice
- 31:47himself. It shows his matchless love and
- 31:49grace. And then thirdly, the actual
- 31:51dispensation of pardon to the individual Sinner remains an act
- 31:54of most free and abundant grace. Even though the price is paid.
- 31:58Yes, because once the demands of justice and the law are
- 32:00perfectly satisfied by Christ's atonement, God is now enabled,
- 32:04free, consistent with His own character, to pardon sinners.
- 32:07The Sinner receives this pardon, this forgiveness, as a pure
- 32:10gift. They receive a benefit they
- 32:12absolutely did not earn or pay for personally.
- 32:15So we received the pardon, but we didn't provide the means for
- 32:17it. It's still a gift to us.
- 32:19Absolutely. It's a gift made possible only
- 32:22by God's gracious provision and Christ's costly sacrifice.
- 32:26It comes to us freely, even though it cost Christ
- 32:28everything. So, listener, what really stands
- 32:30out here is that Christ's atonement doesn't eliminate
- 32:33grace. It makes grace possible.
- 32:35It prepares the way for pardon by satisfying justice.
- 32:39It removes the barrier that God's own perfect justice would
- 32:42otherwise place in the way of forgiveness.
- 32:45It opens the door that our sin had slammed shut.
- 32:47It enables God, as Roman says, to be just and yet the justifier
- 32:52of the Sinner. Exactly.
- 32:53The riches of grace are shown not by God ignoring his law or
- 32:57pretending sin doesn't matter. No, they're shown by God Himself
- 33:00providing the perfect means to satisfy His own just law,
- 33:04opening the way for Him to pour out pardon without compromising
- 33:08one bit of His perfect character or His righteous government.
- 33:10It's a harmony, justice and mercy meeting perfectly, a
- 33:13perfect. Harmony, displaying all His
- 33:15attributes, working together beautifully in Christ.
- 33:17Well, we have certainly taken a deep dive today into Jonathan
- 33:21Edwards and his really compelling case for the absolute
- 33:25necessity of Christ's atonement. We've wrestled right alongside
- 33:29him with that tension of grace and justice.
- 33:31And hopefully we've seen how God, in His incredible wisdom
- 33:34and goodness, manages to both uphold His perfect law
- 33:38completely and yet offer free, abundant pardon to us sinners.
- 33:43It really is a magnificent picture of God's character,
- 33:45isn't it? His righteousness is totally
- 33:48upheld, His just dissatisfied. And His grace is just poured out
- 33:52without limit through His son. It's quite something to
- 33:54contemplate. And this deep dive, hopefully it
- 33:57gives you, the listener, a clearview of why Christ's
- 33:59sacrifice isn't just, you know, a helpful thing God did.
- 34:03It's the only righteous basis upon which God can forgive sin
- 34:06while remaining true to Himself. It shows his hatred for Son.
- 34:09Definitely, and his amazing love for sinners all at the same
- 34:12time. It creates the only path for
- 34:14reconciliation that honors every single aspect respect of God's
- 34:17perfect character. So for your consideration as we
- 34:20wrap up, maybe conjure this If the necessity of Christ's death
- 34:24was so absolute, so unavoidable, even for God himself in his
- 34:28plan, what does that truly tell us about the seriousness, the
- 34:33weight, the infinite gravity of sin in God's eyes?
- 34:36And flowing from that, what does it tell us about the
- 34:38immeasurable value, the sheer preciousness of the redemption
- 34:41that's offered to us freely in cries?
- 34:43Something to really think about. Indeed.
- 34:45Thank you for joining us on Reformed Thinking for this deep
- 34:47dive. Until next time, keep seeking,
- 34:50keep growing, and keep learning.