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ITB: Can Hurts' Rising Interception Total Be An Encouraging Sign For Eagles Offense? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on, everybody? It's
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: Jeff Mosher. It's Adam Kaplan. And we're inching toward the
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  Speaker 1: final preseason game here. It is going to be against
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals. And that's Friday night. So we've got a
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  Speaker 1: practice that the Eagles had Monday and, of course, the
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  Speaker 1: open practice Tuesday that Adam and I were at each. Adam,
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  Speaker 1: you were at the open practice. I was at the
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  Speaker 1: Monday practice. And we're going to really go through where
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  Speaker 1: things stand with the Eagles after these, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: couple of preseason games, a couple more practices, open practice.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, 45,000 at the link for open practice. About,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let's say the Eagles are exaggerating. Let's say
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  Speaker 1: it was 41. Still pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so most of the lower ball was filled. Upstairs,
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  Speaker 2: second level, very sparse, very little.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But being on the field for warm-ups and when James
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  Speaker 2: Spadaro was doing the PA announcing. It was super loud.
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  Speaker 2: They were loud as hell. It's pretty cool. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I would imagine for the players, especially the rookies to
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  Speaker 2: hear it. Yeah, it was, uh, weather turned out to
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  Speaker 2: be good. It was a very odd afternoon where it
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  Speaker 2: was overcast, but didn't rain. Then it got nice and
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  Speaker 2: cool at night and they got a lot of work.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, so today's show, the purpose is where do
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  Speaker 2: things stand throughout training camp, throughout the OTAs? Where do
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  Speaker 2: they stand right now? We'll give that to you. Like
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  Speaker 2: we can. Yep. They learn a lot. It's actually been
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  Speaker 2: because we had our pre-training camp question show, right? A
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  Speaker 2: lot of it's been answered. Mostly good, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: Some are you have to see because you don't know
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  Speaker 2: or because of Lemon's injuries, injury, the re-injury of this hamstring.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: We have some good stuff from the Tuesday night practice
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  Speaker 2: that I noted. And certainly also with Sean Mannion, we
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  Speaker 2: haven't talked about him enough about what we've seen and
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  Speaker 2: what we know, what we've heard. we're going to give
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  Speaker 2: you a little bit more intel on what this thing's
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  Speaker 2: going to look like, or at least should look like
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  Speaker 2: in the regular season.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's start with him and the quarterback position overall. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: there's a big marriage and an importance between the offensive
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  Speaker 1: coordinator and the QB play. On Monday's practice, Adam, it
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  Speaker 1: was very short. It was only an hour because they
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  Speaker 1: weren't going to have a big, heavy practice before the
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  Speaker 1: open practice. They were in shorts and shells, and it
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  Speaker 1: was really choppy for the offense, first-team offense. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think there weren't any interceptions. I know we'll talk about that,
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  Speaker 1: but there just weren't a lot of completions. There was
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  Speaker 1: a ton of motion, though. And Makai Lemon coming back,
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  Speaker 1: it almost felt to me like they were trying to
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  Speaker 1: cram three weeks of him being out into a session
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  Speaker 1: there because there was probably more pre-snap motion than I've
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  Speaker 1: seen in most other practices. So they're clearly trying to
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  Speaker 1: get up to speed. He's going to be that guy
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  Speaker 1: in this offense that you really need, that movable piece.
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  Speaker 1: But the quarterback play, the receiver play, it just didn't
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  Speaker 1: look yet quite in sync because that was the first
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  Speaker 1: time that Devontae Smith and Lemon had practiced since August 3rd.
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  Speaker 1: So since that point, Jalen Hurts has been working with
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  Speaker 1: guys who, backups who have had their moments, but not
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  Speaker 1: the starters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so really overall with Lemon, as I saw on
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  Speaker 2: Tuesday night's practice, this is not a static offense. This
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  Speaker 2: is something, again, we haven't seen since Doug Peterson was fired.
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  Speaker 2: where they would do certain things, try certain things. Remember,
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  Speaker 2: they brought in Rich Scangarello from the Shanahan tree. And unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: all that stuff didn't work. It was Doug, whether he
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  Speaker 2: wanted to do it or not, it was kind of like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: we need to be different and so forth. That was
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  Speaker 2: six years ago, six years ago, 2020, six seasons ago.
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  Speaker 2: And it seems like just like yesterday. But moving forward now,
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  Speaker 2: this is not static. There's a lot of motion. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: with Lemon, who you mentioned, and I agree with your
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  Speaker 2: assessment from what you saw on Monday's practice, They're doing
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  Speaker 2: a ton with him now that he's healthy. And he clearly,
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  Speaker 2: he looks in and out of his breaks. They ran
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  Speaker 2: a reverse orbit motion into a burst. Like he did
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  Speaker 2: the orbit and then he reversed. And then he stopped suddenly,
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  Speaker 2: just like for a split second. And then once it
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  Speaker 2: was right about to snap, he burst to the right.
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  Speaker 2: The ball didn't even go to him. It was just interesting.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of that. We've seen it
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  Speaker 2: throughout training camp, a lot of motion pre-snap. A post-snap,
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  Speaker 2: some interesting stuff. What I'm interested to see, though, is
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  Speaker 2: Goddard's role in terms of what do they do with
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  Speaker 2: him in this offense? Because the passing coordinator came from Tampa,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm interested to see how they combine what Mannion
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  Speaker 2: likes and the passing game coordinator likes. We don't really
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  Speaker 2: know that. We're not going to know until the regular season,
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  Speaker 2: but what we do know on West Coast, tight ends
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  Speaker 2: are very involved. I'm interested to see what Goddard does
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  Speaker 2: that he hasn't done before, if anything.
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  Speaker 1: What did you make of Hurts? I would say through
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  Speaker 1: all the practices we've seen together, I wouldn't say he's
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  Speaker 1: had a great camp. I don't think he's had a
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  Speaker 1: terrible camp. I don't know how to reconcile the interceptions.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not worried about it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it either. This is going to
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  Speaker 1: sound weird. I don't think it's a good thing to
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  Speaker 1: have interceptions, but you know, last year, Sam Donald threw
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  Speaker 1: 14 interceptions, right? Which is, would be like twice as
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  Speaker 1: much as what hurts normally throws, but he also threw
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  Speaker 1: for 4,000 yards, 28 touchdowns. And because he threw interceptions,
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  Speaker 1: he also took risks and drove the ball and really
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  Speaker 1: came into his own. Now he wasn't a top five quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: Sam Donald. He was, and their offense in general, Seattle's was,
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  Speaker 1: if you look at like EPA metrics and, you know, analytics,
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  Speaker 1: it was like 12, 13, 14, but you would take
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  Speaker 1: that from the Eagles. Um, from a passing offense standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: You're hoping the running game really comes back and is
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  Speaker 1: the bell cow. So I guess what I'm saying is, Adam,
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  Speaker 1: you'd have to look at every interception individually and say,
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  Speaker 1: was this the result of at least trying to drive
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  Speaker 1: the ball or do something positive and you'll take a
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  Speaker 1: few more of that? Or were some of them sloppy?
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  Speaker 1: I know in the night there was probably one that
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  Speaker 1: was not a great one because he left it. right there. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he was late. He was late.
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  Speaker 2: Right. And we'll have had a couple of picks, which
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about. But what I want is I want
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  Speaker 2: him to drive the football. If I'm the coaches, don't
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  Speaker 2: worry about it. We can't this risk averse shit. Excuse
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  Speaker 2: my language, but that's gone. Like that's unacceptable. Right. With
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  Speaker 2: a coach than what they allowed him to do. And
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  Speaker 2: not like they, they were so conservative with the game
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  Speaker 2: plan with Hertz. And I understand he wasn't throwing the
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  Speaker 2: ball in time. That's confirmed by tape, nothing else. So
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  Speaker 2: that's the way it was. I saw plenty of him
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  Speaker 2: getting the ball, getting out of his hands on time. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I saw him hold on to it. So did Dalton
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  Speaker 2: and McKay. Andy's not new to West Coast, but he's
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  Speaker 2: new to this specific offense. McKay has come along the
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  Speaker 2: last week a lot. He threw a pass. Now, I
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  Speaker 2: watched it. They had a view of it. At first,
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  Speaker 2: I thought Ringo got his hands on it. Not from
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  Speaker 2: the second view I saw. It was, I believe, a
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  Speaker 2: two-point conversion. McKee, only McKee, like Andy Dalton's not making
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  Speaker 2: this throw. Hurts can do it. Definitely can. I've seen
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  Speaker 2: him do it. And McKee, he just rifled it up
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  Speaker 2: to Hollywood in the back of the end zone. And remember,
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  Speaker 2: McKee and Hollywood hooked up big time.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Against the Patriots in practices. And it was just, you
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  Speaker 2: want to see that decisiveness is what you want from
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  Speaker 2: these quarterbacks to expand what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: For sure.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you want. I'm not worried about the picks.
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  Speaker 2: If he makes the right throw and maybe it's a
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  Speaker 2: shade late, okay, maybe it gets deflected, okay, you can
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  Speaker 2: correct that stuff. But it's holding on to the ball
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  Speaker 2: and then running to the right and running out of
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  Speaker 2: bounds where the fans who don't understand football are blaming
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  Speaker 2: the coaches. It has nothing to do with the coach.
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  Speaker 2: It's on the quarterback. Throw the ball on time. Whoever
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback is in the game, run it like it's
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be done. And if the receiver drops it,
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  Speaker 2: That's on them. If the receiver's late on the route,
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  Speaker 2: if Jalen puts it out there on time and the
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  Speaker 2: guy's late, that's on them. Drake May, last Wednesday, first
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  Speaker 2: practice where he burned specifically Woolen left and right. The
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  Speaker 2: ball was out a quarter into the route. It was unreal.
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  Speaker 2: Poor Woolen. I'm with the guy. What am I supposed
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  Speaker 2: to do? He just got it there and he beat
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  Speaker 2: me to the spot. That's what you want, timing. This
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  Speaker 2: is what this offense is.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed. If you were to, if you were to ask
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  Speaker 1: me what my biggest concern would be based on camp
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  Speaker 1: that I'm not afraid to extrapolate, it would just be,
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  Speaker 1: it would not be the interceptions. It would just be,
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like I've seen him running a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more than I would expect in like seven on
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  Speaker 1: sevens and even in the team drills and still trying
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  Speaker 1: to get that rhythm of balls out, balls out, balls out.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not– I'm like– I'm exactly with you. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: as concerned with the picks. I wouldn't even call it
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  Speaker 1: a concern because I expected this offense to take some time,
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  Speaker 1: but I think early on we are going to see
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of the harmony just not there the
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  Speaker 1: way it's supposed to be as he continues to learn
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  Speaker 1: this offense and how the ball is supposed to come
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  Speaker 1: out with the timing of his step and the route.
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  Speaker 1: So that's it. But that's going to take time.
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  Speaker 2: One more thing before we move on to running backs.
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  Speaker 2: What I've seen a lot, and I saw it last
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  Speaker 2: week and I saw it in Tuesday night's practice, a
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  Speaker 2: ton of shallow crosses to get the ball out of
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  Speaker 2: the hand of the quarterback. That's good coaching. This is
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  Speaker 2: what I call openers.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Play callers. Get the quarterbacks comfortable. Get them in rhythm.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And get them confident. Start off with easy throws. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: They had Wicks on a shallow.
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: No one even remotely close to Wicks. He just crossed.
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  Speaker 2: He crossed the formation. Jalen put it here. Completion. That's
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  Speaker 2: what you want. And I also felt during the preseason
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  Speaker 2: game last Saturday in New England, that Manion did a
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  Speaker 2: really good job of making the quarterbacks comfortable early. I
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  Speaker 2: know that a lot of McKee's passes were dump-offs, screens,
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  Speaker 2: short area, a couple longer, but that's coaching. That's what
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  Speaker 2: you've got to do. It's your job to help the quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed, agreed. The layups, we call them. Take the layups
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  Speaker 1: when they're there. That's just my big curiosity is will
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: Jalen– take the layups that are there that sometimes, even
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  Speaker 1: many times, he has not in the past, and then
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  Speaker 1: you see him kind of floating around and wondering what's going.
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  Speaker 2: Through his head there. Real quick, his predecessor, Wentz, was
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  Speaker 2: the same way. Because Wentz wants to throw the ball downfield,
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: so does Jalen. Right. And sometimes on your point, where the...
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't like dumping the ball off. Wentz was the
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  Speaker 2: same way, okay? He just doesn't like doing it. But
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  Speaker 2: as we've seen as we transition to running back, You
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: see the screens. Now, there was a play to Barkley.
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: I know some people thought it was a wheel. I'm
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: not totally sure it was. But it was a great throw.
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: Only where Barkley can get it. Barkley made a great
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  Speaker 2: adjustment on it. You're looking to expand the passing game
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  Speaker 2: to other positions other than receiver and tight end. And
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: there's a way to do it, the running backs. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Roger Craig in the West Coast made the Hall of
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  Speaker 2: Fame with it. Yeah. I mean, that's what you do.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Banner told me years ago. When he goes president,
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: the best matchup on offense is running backs on linebackers.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: It's absolute money. The linebackers are typically not as fast.
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  Speaker 2: And he doesn't move like the running back. Take advantage
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if there was a little freelance involved there.
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  Speaker 1: I saw the touchdown. Someone posted a video, had a
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  Speaker 1: great view of it. And it did look like it
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  Speaker 1: started off as a wheel, but because... Vaughn was on
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  Speaker 1: the inside shoulder. It looked like he angled toward the corner.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe there was some, which would be great, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, if you give a running back sort of like,
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: just like with the receivers, a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: sight adjustment or a freelance to make a move, which
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  Speaker 1: we haven't really seen a lot from the running backs
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  Speaker 1: in this offense past, that would be great. And I
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: did notice, I think, I forget who I said this to.
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  Speaker 1: It was either our practice or something I was watching
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  Speaker 1: where Saquon ran a Texas route and caught the ball
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: over the middle. You know, the old go back out,
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  Speaker 1: come back in. And I was like, wow, I haven't
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: seen an Eagles running back run a Texas route in
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  Speaker 1: their offense in a while. And that got me excited about,
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: you know, along the lines of what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe there's some additional, not only just screens, which is
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  Speaker 1: great to see, but also some additional. route emphasis for
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  Speaker 1: running backs that might be a part of this offense
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  Speaker 1: that we really just haven't seen in a lot. And,
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: you know, not in the Nick Sirianni.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So the bottom line is there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: to this offense. Eagle fans have to be patient. It
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: could look ugly at times, the first three, four weeks.
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: I remember Bill Pauling telling me, Hall of Fame general manager,
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: the defense is it's four to six weeks. He thinks
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: the start of the season that the defense is usually
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: ahead or way ahead of offenses.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And now when you're installing a brand new scheme, now
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  Speaker 2: Hurts was, believe it or not, on the West Coast
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  Speaker 2: in 2020, but he wasn't the starter. You know, it
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  Speaker 2: was Wentz. So at least he knows what it is,
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  Speaker 2: but this is a work in progress. It's not going
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: to happen overnight, but it has a chance to be beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: If Hurts does throw mostly on time at some point
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  Speaker 2: in the season, you see what it looks like. Brock
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: Purdy's not very talented. Hurts is way more talented. Brock Purdy,
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  Speaker 2: when he's on time, it's beautiful. and you don't have
• 14:00
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• 14:02
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• 17:20
  Speaker 1: the wide receiver situation, here's what's interesting to me. With
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Lemon coming back this week.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Real quick, Shipley, like, I hate to say he looks different,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: but he's never run this physical. That was the biggest
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: knock coming out of Clemson because lower body wasn't built strong.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: But I know people want to know, like, okay, Tank
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Biggs beat backups. Because we keep being asked this question
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: when we do interviews. Okay, is Biggs going to get
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: the ball more than he did last season? I don't
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: know that. I would say three to five carries would
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: be nice. What I'd like to see, could you give
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: him a series? Is it so wrong to give him
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: a series without putting Barkley back in? Because they go,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Tank is killing it, and then they put Barkley in
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: for the second half of the series. That's the one
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: thing I'd like to see.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, we've talked about that quite a bit. Can we
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: see that? Can we see a little more diversity among
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the running backs?
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But Shipley looks good. That's a developing story.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: That's a big story.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's over. I mean, those are your three
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: running backs. Yeah, I mean, there's really nothing.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Shipley was never challenged.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I know there's this push for Carson Steele, and he's
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: playing well. I just don't know how they're going to
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: keep four. I know they want him to pass. Exactly. Exactly.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I know Steele's got, I believe, I don't know in
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: front of me, I believe he signed a three-year deal.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: It's typical of a street undirected free agent, wherever he goes,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: to sign a three-year deal. after he left Kansas City.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: But let's not forget, Bixby's contract's up. Shipley, this is
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: year three of a four-year deal. And yeah, it would
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: be nice to know who would be the long-term backup. Then,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: of course, developing Barkley's successor at some point over the
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: next couple of years. But running back is in really
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: good shape, really good shape. For sure.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: So an interesting thing about Lemon coming back this week,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: combined with the fact that for whatever reason, reason training
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: camp is a week longer, or there's an extra week
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: before the start of the season opener, right? So if
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: you think about it, he, Mekhi Lemon will have this week,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: he will have next week, and the week after to
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: be ready for that Sunday game, the opener against the Commanders.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: It's three weeks. That's like a week less than a
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: normal length of a training camp. So my point is,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy and is practicing as much
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: as he's been practicing this week for the next three weeks,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: it's a good shot that come Week one, you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: against the Commanders, he may not be ready to play
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: a hundred percent of the snaps, but he wasn't going
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: to do that anyway, but he could probably be a
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: pretty big part of their 11 personnel for the first
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: week of the season. So by, but for all that
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: we've not seen out of him and Devante Smith week one,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Devante Smith, Makai Lemon could be your top two easily
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: wide receivers.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, you could play 12 with Lemon. Not
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: just 11. You could play 12. You reduce him as
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: an outside receiver. It's exactly what McVay does. And I
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: know Mike McCarthy was going to play Lemon, from what
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I understand, inside. Because they wanted him. The Steelers, everybody
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: knows the story. The Steelers wanted him. They were going
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: to play him inside and outside. More inside than outside, obviously. Right.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: He's not really an outside receiver, but there's certain things
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: you could do with him. Yeah. But Tay Wicks, moving
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: on to him, Tay Wicks has had quite the... He's been...
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I know Darius Cooper, though, he had another drop in
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: the practice. No, I mean, it's right in his hands.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: He's got to catch it. But Wicks has been the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: most consistent pass catcher in training camp. He's had a
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: great camp. We'll see what happens when regular season starts,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: but he's been really good.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: That's why I mentioned you most likely see 11 and 11.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: He could play in 12, but I feel like Wicks
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: has done enough to prove that he deserves to be
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: out there for a lot of it.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. 11 or 12.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: He's done great.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Um, there's really, I don't know if there's anything much more,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: the big guesswork is, are they going to keep Elijah Moore? Um,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: that would open it. Cause they've already, but by putting
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Johnny Wilson, you know, waved injured, I guess they've opened
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: up the door. If they want to keep five, right.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: They keep Smith.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: They're going to keep five.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Smith, right. Lemon, Wicks, Cooper. Right. And is Hollywood Brown
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: or is Elijah Moore that fit? That's the question right now.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: You would think with Brown.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Brown's a lock. He's making $ 5 million fully guaranteed. He's
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: not going anywhere. They're not walking away.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Then there's really not a pathway unless they keep six
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: for Moore. Unless they do it differently. Cooper's got team's value.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Moore really doesn't.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: That hurts him. Moore, to me, is the discussion with
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: the agent and the player. Because Moore, after a slow
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: first week, has been really good.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Really good.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Said nothing not to be on the team, but that's
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: what you have. the 16 man practice squad where you
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: could have veterans on it. I mean, that, that's, that's,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: that's the discussion because they really, they don't need to
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: have six on the 53. They really don't because we
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: know the Eagles will finish off with offensive line in
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: a minute. The Eagles have so many quality, at least
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: from what we've seen, what we've heard and what we know,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: quality developmental offensive lineman. And that's, you know, that's super
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: important to the way that the football operations operate. Yeah.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: But a couple of, see, a couple of wide receivers,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: this is not like an unknown guy, right? Like you said.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: So we've already seen a couple of wide receivers get
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: hurt in practice. You know, there's teams like the Dolphins
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: who have like no wide receivers. I'd be a little
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: bit reluctant to try to strike a deal. Well, I mean,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: obviously you're right. Howie would talk to the agent before
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the cut down and see if he has an agreement.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: But if I'm his agent, I'm saying, I'm going to
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: find a job for this guy. So if you're on
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: the 53, there's no reason for me to like, you know,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: work something out.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He walks into Miami top three receiver. I mean, that's,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I've not seen this kind of group in probably a
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: decade of, if you thought the Eagles group and 20
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: was bad. Yeah. The Dolphins group is like college. It's
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: basically AAA. It should not be what you're going into
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: the season with. We, the reason why they're partially they're
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: doing is because they made a conscious decision to take
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: massive cap hits and and just go young, and they
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: know they're going to be bad. Malik Washington's an interesting player,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: but overall they're going to be terrible. So you make
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: a good point. Moore could go somewhere like Miami and
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: have a big role and maybe even make more money.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see what happens there. Tight end. Howard
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: has to make a move here. It's set, but it's not.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: It's not complete.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Well, they need Cam Latu to me. I know he
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: has not gotten a lot of reps, but Stowers to
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: me is, he's just not there physically. It's going to
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: take a while. We know he's new. This is his
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: fourth year as a tight end. This is going to be,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: he's a project who's very athletic and there's a lot
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: of upside, but it's going to take time. Yeah. Because
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: it took Zach Ertz time. So to me, Latu is
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: the guy, because he does everything. He does not get
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: enough credit for the talent that he has. The staff
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: last year didn't use him the right way, which we
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: pointed out by tape study. Right. I don't know what
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: this guy has to do. Johnny Monk could play. There's
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: no question Johnny Monk could play. He looks like he–
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: because we weren't sure. Yeah. CJ Uzama was signed to
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: be the backup Y, and he couldn't play anymore.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: So you never know. He just retired, by the way.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: He was released by the Jags. It's not like he
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: was a free agent signing because, you know, the Eagles
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: outbid him. Yeah.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: So, all right, so you got Munt, you got Goddard.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I think the big question I'll have is, and that
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: we will not be able to answer in training camp,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: no matter what you see, because it's not going to
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: play in any preseason games, is Goddard declining a little?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Is the blocking still not there like it wasn't last year?
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: It wasn't great. Is he declining at all in catching?
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: He used to be like the star of training camp
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a lot earlier in his career.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't quite say. He's made some nice catches, but
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: there's not this– there's not this every day of five
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: to six great catches of, I've got it anymore. That's fine.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't blame him for that. It's the structure.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I'm just, it's just natural at this age and what
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: we saw with his blocking last year that he could
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: be a little step, a little rung lower than that.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, but I do know that if
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: he got hurt, they got nobody that can do what
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: he does other than maybe a Camelot who just doesn't
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: get the opportunity to do it. So it's just not
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: a complete picture to me. I think it's, It's an
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: area where Howie would probably make a move if he
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: could and will be looking to. But I just don't
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: love what they've got in the backup tank right now.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Especially if your second round pick isn't going to play,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: you know, early on.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Well, playing and being a factor are two different things.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: He's just not.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Yeah, he's not going to be
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: a factor. He'll probably be inactive.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that. But the bottom line
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: is they've got seven tight ends and they still have questions.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: You know, E.J. Jenkins is still there. I mean, he's
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: still there, but former receiver, stone smart to undersized, who's
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: got some athletic tools. And then Grant Calcaterra, you know,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I talked about it last week. I know people were
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: not happy. I knew I was going to get fried
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: on that one.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, what happened?
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: No, you can't be on this roster. I talked about
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: being on the 69-man roster.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: He could. Absolutely. Oh, yeah.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. He's got 750 grand guaranteed. Yeah, I see
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: him being that guy on the practice squad if he
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: doesn't make the 53. But you have two guys who
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: can block, Goddard and Munt, okay? Stowers is not ready
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: to do that. Latu can, but I don't have him
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: on it. If I had to do my 53 today,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: which is Wednesday, he deserves to be on it because
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: he's got the developmental tools. But I just don't see
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: the love that Greg Cosell has for him from the
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: coaching staff. They just have not given him that run.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know what they don't see. That's what I
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: like to know.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: And the quarterbacks. I mean, he does not get a
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: lot of targets in practice. No, rarely.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Exactly right. He rarely gets a pass run. Get it. Anyway,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: let's move on. All right.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Offensive line. Pretty set. The big question coming out of
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Tuesday night is Lane Johnson. All right. Cause I know
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: he limped off the, sorry, coming out of yeah. Tuesday
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: night is Lane Johnson. Okay. I know he was, he
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: came off the field. Looked like maybe it was limping
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: a little bit, but then later everybody saw him talking
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: with the team and, walking around so hopefully he's all right.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah he watched he watched the entire practice he was
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: he he left came back very quickly and just watched
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: okay so he didn't go in for treatment that's actually
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: a good sign but we'll see what happens so yeah
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: it's pretty set as we go forward here Markel Bell
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: who's got a couple injuries now we have to watch
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: that uh thumb injury specifically right now he's the backup
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: right tackle Fred Johnson's the backup left Johnson could play
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: right or left so they're pretty set a tackle yeah
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: kennel's their top backup guard Now, what I would caution people, yes,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: he's looked good. You really don't know about a guy
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: like Kendall. Yes, he's up to 305, put on 15
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: pounds of muscle. That's great. It certainly helped him. You
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: don't know until they have to play in the regular season.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: It all sounds good. It looks good. You don't know.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: But he is clearly the backup guard. He could play
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: center because he was the center coming into the offseason program.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Willie Lampkin was very good in the game, so they're
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: set there in terms of developmental backups. Mm-hmm. Now, it
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean they won't have a guard on the practice squad.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: This Jake Majors, short-arm Majors, he's done a good job.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: He has.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: He worked with the ones when Juergens needed a breather
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: on Tuesday night. He's seen time at guard and center.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: But the issue with him is when you're giving up
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: three to four inches of arm length, that's a major
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: problem for Jake Majors if he had to play in
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: the regular season. That is a real problem. It is.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: So it sounds like nine are set. It's just how
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: we keep anybody developmental, 10, 11, you know, Ajuku, who
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: came back to practice at the opening, at the open practice.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: That was great, by the way. See, you never really know.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: It was a pectoral spasm, which is, there's a, in
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: the medical field with NFL people, sometimes a guy has
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: a hamstring spasm, not a strain, where he goes, oh,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: and winds up being nothing. Well, for Ojukwu to come
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: back this quickly, I mean, he certainly didn't strain it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but that's– good sign
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: even a grade one you're not back that quickly so
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: that's a great sign for him it doesn't mean he'll
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: be on the roster right not vested it's going to
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: be hard as you said for him to make it
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: but the cool thing is they've got like four like
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: four to six players who are really intriguing for developmentally
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: yep Miles Hinton, he's not moving up, but he's run
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: with the twos a little bit lately. He's a long
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: shot to make it. Cam Williams, a major long shot
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: to make it. So they're in pretty good shape here.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: But again, as we say, if these guys had to
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: play in the regular season, that means they're playing against
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: the opponent's ones, not the twos.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it has not been a great camp for Hinton. So,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: you know, the idea of keeping 11 now doesn't seem realistic.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I don't want to piff Towie. When they kept seven
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: offensive tackles to start the season, then they traded Contavious
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Street to Atlanta. I remember a personnel guy whose job
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: was to study the Eagles because that was one of
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: the teams that he was assigned for pro personnel. He goes,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: what is Howie doing? I go, dude, I don't know.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I think a week later he traded Street. But that
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: was actually really smart because you see a guy who
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: could play in the league, and if somebody loses a player,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: they're going to come call him. And they did, and
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: that's what happened.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: All right. So the Niners, I think that they'll be
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: able to get majors on a practice squad if they want.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't think teams are going
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to knock down the door for them. And the same
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: thing with Ajuku, although he's got some NFL experience, so
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know. And they did cross-train him. He has
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: played a left. That would be the guy that I
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: could see them sneaking onto the 53 just because they
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: wanted to make sure they had more time with him
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and didn't want to lose him.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I look at it this way. The reason why
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: you would cut him, you'd wave him, It's because they're
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: set at both backup tackles. Now, he did get– he
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: has been cross-training a guard.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Is it enough to keep him? Probably not because you've
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: got Michael Jordan, who they always look to put on
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the practice squad.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, shoot. You know, I forgot about him, and I
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: forgot about Micah Morris. He's a rookie. He might– It's
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a tough one, right. He's a good athlete. He moves.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: He's got something there. I would not be surprised at
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: all if they kept 11. Now, obviously, if you keep
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: 11– It's hard to keep six receivers. I don't see it. Quarterback,
• 31:48
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  Speaker 2: or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Up it's tough man it's it's Eagles have a pretty
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  Speaker 2: significant history going back decades of having super depth on
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  Speaker 2: the offensive line and attack on defensive line. Well, this
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  Speaker 2: is the 34 front. And Ty Robinson's played himself onto
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: this team to me. As Vic said, he's off life
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  Speaker 2: support on this roster. It's fascinating, but this is not
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  Speaker 2: going to be easy. We could say, oh, they should
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: be able to sneak them through, but you say that, Remember,
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  Speaker 2: the access that the other clubs have is to your
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: preseason tape. They've got all the news clips. They know
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  Speaker 2: who's doing well because they read everything. They get it.
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  Speaker 2: I know from talking to the clubs, they all get
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  Speaker 2: news clips.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: From what the reporters have. And they typically in the
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  Speaker 2: pro personnel department, they've got interns who monitor social media.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: And they want to know what the reporters are saying. Now,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: are the reporters always right? No, they don't know what
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: the hell they're looking at sometimes. But if they keep
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: saying it day after day after day, they're probably going
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: to be right. And clubs know this. So just keep
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: that in mind. It's like when, who was the guy,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: the why that we were laughing at that the Cardinals claimed?
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  Speaker 2: You guys were pissed off about it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, gosh. Was the really tall guy? No. Who was it?
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember his name. I know who you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: The Colts claimed him. I'm sorry. No, the Colts claimed him.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, the Colts?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. What was the, I forget what Chris Ballard said,
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  Speaker 2: something that, They needed a why, and they knew about
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: him because they might have seen the– I.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Just– Oh, I know. Are you talking about the tight end, Togiai?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: When they came to him? Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Togiai was the guy. Yes, the Colts claimed him. And
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I remember Chris Ballard saying they knew about him based
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: on what they had heard, based on how well he
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: was doing at camp. And I was like, wow.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: And then they went back and looked at their own
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: scouting report. Right, yeah.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: No, but they knew from training camp that he was
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: kicking ass. They read, they'd heard, they'd gather the information
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  Speaker 2: through channels, through news clips that he was doing really well. Now,
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  Speaker 2: he never did a thing for them.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, not much. No, that's funny. I haven't thought
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: about Noah Togiai in a long time.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway. Oh, that's it. I mean, obviously, Michael Morris being
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: a rookie has a shot, so I could see them
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  Speaker 1: keeping that 10th or 11th for developmental purposes, but we'll see.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: It's going to be an interesting decision because defensively, if
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: they're going to keep a couple guys like, projects like
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: we'll ruin Bernard. It makes it tougher to go heavy
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: in other areas. So you want to do defense next time.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Next episode, we'll go through the state of the defense.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Next, next show. We'll do the state of defense
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: All right. Sounds good. That is it. That is the
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: state of the offense for the Eagles as things currently
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: stand here in the middle of this week, this final
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: full week of training camp for the Philadelphia Eagles. Next episode,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: we'll get to the defense. That's going to do it
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