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Conor Garland is a world champion: Cup Final preview, Kraken find their coach and Toews' return. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted now at its finals. This is the what
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  Speaker 1: we Love away for folks. The telecap final has arrived
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  Speaker 1: and if hopefully like a good sequel, maybe this could
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  Speaker 1: be more Godfather too than the original Godfather, because last
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  Speaker 1: year's final was epic going seven games to Oilers arrived
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  Speaker 1: from three to zero down and then they're going to
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  Speaker 1: face off for the second straight year.
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  Speaker 2: Florida course looking to repeat oil.
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  Speaker 1: Listening of the first title since they won five times
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  Speaker 1: in seven seasons between nineteen eighty four and nineteen ninety.
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  Speaker 1: Puck drops Wednesday, Edmonton, So let us break down that matchup,
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  Speaker 1: and of course Jation nvers will be there for NHL
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  Speaker 2: JD is gonna be fire up to going to Northern Alberta.
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  Speaker 3: Turtle Island as they call it, the Island of the
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  Speaker 3: Turtles the Chief Blackfoot tribe im on now Edmonton, Florida.
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  Speaker 3: The rematch, Come on, baby, it's gonna be fun. I
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  Speaker 3: was dreading it, dreading them doing the two connecting flights
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  Speaker 3: every gosh darn time that I have to fly from
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  Speaker 3: Edmonton to Florida. But yeah, listen, they're paying me to
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  Speaker 3: do it. Gotta do it, gotta go. Gonna be boots
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  Speaker 3: on the ground for NHL and scripted. Hopefully we'll be
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  Speaker 3: coming to you fans live, and we should be coming
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  Speaker 3: to live before every game, giving you a little breakdown,
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  Speaker 3: little bonus coverage, fifteen to twenty minutes, quick in and out,
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  Speaker 3: so it won't be your normal formatting of Wednesday and
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  Speaker 3: Sunday that you've grown so accustomed to these playoffs. But
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  Speaker 3: it will then become every day before just a little
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  Speaker 3: little pregame preview and kind of give you everything I'm
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  Speaker 3: feeling seeing and we'll just get to chop it up.
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  Speaker 3: But it's a great matchup. I can't wait. This team Edmonton,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, there's just something about them. I feel
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  Speaker 3: like they're ready. I feel like it's time. I know
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  Speaker 3: they lost Zach Hymon, but you know, for the people
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  Speaker 3: saying Zach Hyman's gone, they were seven and three without
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  Speaker 3: him this year, so they can win without him. So
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  Speaker 3: this is going to be interesting. It's the year of
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  Speaker 3: the Worm. Corey Perry lead miss Edmonton Oilers team in
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  Speaker 3: goal and goal scoring, specifically on the power play and
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  Speaker 3: he's looking to finally get over that hump yet again,
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  Speaker 3: win a Cup that he won so long ago when
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  Speaker 3: he was in Anaheim and now has been to five finals,
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  Speaker 3: so so much to love, so many storylines to break down,
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, I can just keep going all night. You
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  Speaker 3: want me to keep going.
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  Speaker 1: At now, I'm gonna jump in Laurence Golds And of
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  Speaker 1: course our great researcher NHL never put together a great packet.
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  Speaker 2: So this is the players to appear in game seven of.
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  Speaker 1: This stay the Cup final a year ago are no
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  Speaker 1: longer the Oilers slash Panthers. So Philip Robert, Cody Cecy,
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  Speaker 1: Warren Fogel, Dillon Holloway, Roy McLeod, Anthony Stillar's Vibora Tersenko
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  Speaker 1: for Florida, Oel l Eckman, Larson, Ryan Lomberg, Brandon Montro, Coloposo,
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Steley. You mentioned Hymen's injury and Derek Ryan a
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  Speaker 1: scratch through the postseason. I means fourteen players who's ended
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  Speaker 1: up in Game seven last year will not be in
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  Speaker 1: the line for Game one.
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  Speaker 2: That's thirty five percent.
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  Speaker 1: So it is a remac but you're still getting a
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  Speaker 1: fair number players who are not familiar.
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  Speaker 2: With each other. We kick it off first. We'll do
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  Speaker 2: it like.
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  Speaker 1: NFL style, will go offense, defense, special teams, so off that. Yeah, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I know you love sport logic, our buddy, Mike Kelly,
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  Speaker 1: sport logic.
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  Speaker 2: Quench the numbers, Edmondsonday fifty two percent likely to winning.
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  Speaker 2: How about that? It's basically a coin flip and the series.
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  Speaker 3: To go expecting to go. That's nerd numbers right there.
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  Speaker 3: And I love Mike Kelly. Fifty don't even fucking say
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  Speaker 3: it if it's fifty two percent fifty one point, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I hear it ticking.
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  Speaker 1: Someone says fifty fifty, Well, it's one or the other,
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  Speaker 1: like it's either more of one than that.
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  Speaker 2: It's never it's never truly.
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  Speaker 3: Fifty to fifty. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But the reason why that they're liking Edmondson by a
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  Speaker 1: slight two percent is the offense Panthers Achilles heel in
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  Speaker 1: this postseason is turning Bucks over Slash having trouble with
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  Speaker 1: the opposition. For check, if you look at McDavid, Dr Subtle,
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  Speaker 1: Nujian Hopkins, those three guys particularly have been hummon. As
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  Speaker 1: you and I have talked about, Florida has more overall depth, although.
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  Speaker 2: Edmondon's Debtholtely has been strong and one of.
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  Speaker 1: The reasons why they're in situation, but at least in
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  Speaker 1: a cursory look, Florida ten different players in double jeds
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  Speaker 1: of scoring, Edmonton has seven.
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  Speaker 2: Who's got the edge on offense?
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  Speaker 3: You got to always lean on the side of Connor McDavid.
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  Speaker 3: I just feel like Connor hasn't yet had that Connor
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  Speaker 3: McDavid series that we've seen him do so many times,
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  Speaker 3: where he wasn't getting any depth support. He's now getting
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  Speaker 3: that depth support in spades. I just feel like he's
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  Speaker 3: taken on a more defensive role, but I feel like
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  Speaker 3: he has been waiting for this moment in his whole life.
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  Speaker 3: He is ready to rip off their arms and beat
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  Speaker 3: them to death with it with them, He's just on
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  Speaker 3: a different level mentally, and I think Leon as well.
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  Speaker 3: I think these two guys get humming and they can
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  Speaker 3: take over hockey games. I'm gonna be interested to see
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  Speaker 3: the difference from this year to last year. Is the
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  Speaker 3: wholemice advantage on Edmonton other sides. I think that is
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  Speaker 3: huge and critical. If you really look back at that series,
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  Speaker 3: they beat the shit out of Florida, at home in
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  Speaker 3: Edmonton they beat eight to one, six to one. Then
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  Speaker 3: it was a four to three loss. That was the
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  Speaker 3: game that Bob kind of stole. And then those three
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  Speaker 3: games in Edmonton though were the highest scoring games, and
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  Speaker 3: that was large in part because they got the home
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  Speaker 3: ice last change. They got the last change and they
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  Speaker 3: were able to capitalize on it and they really were
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  Speaker 3: able to chase Bob. So this is going to be interesting,
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  Speaker 3: and this is where I think they have the edge
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  Speaker 3: in the series. And if they can get out to
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  Speaker 3: an early one game lead and get that first critical
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  Speaker 3: game because everything shifts if you don't get game one,
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  Speaker 3: I think they're going to be in the driver's seat.
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  Speaker 3: So this is for me, is the offense slightly, ever
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  Speaker 3: so slightly fifty one point two percent on my by
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  Speaker 3: my calculations, goes towards the Edmonton Oilers.
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  Speaker 1: Oilers lead all playoff teams is scoring four to oh six.
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  Speaker 1: Florida are behind three eight to eight. Tower point how
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  Speaker 1: close it is. So I'm with the Edmonton slight edge offense.
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  Speaker 1: So they got the game breakers on defense. Florida's seventh
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  Speaker 1: ranked defense during the regular season and the playoffs long
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  Speaker 1: two point two nine goals per game. They've been the
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  Speaker 1: best had some team so far in the playoffs. Edmonton
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  Speaker 1: more feistter famine two point eight one goals against Stuart
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  Speaker 1: Skinned Those are amazing. Three shutouts, of course, but props,
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  Speaker 1: he's no stranger puting a shutout.
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  Speaker 2: Know what a great goalie he is.
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  Speaker 1: Florida the deeper blue line. But Edmonton getting Mattias at
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  Speaker 1: come back. You're the veteran of seven hundred games. Who's
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  Speaker 1: got the edge on defense.
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  Speaker 3: This one's tough because I actually thought before Mattias et
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  Speaker 3: Com came back, I would have slightly leaned Florida. It's tough, man,
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  Speaker 3: because I watched that games. Troy Stetcher has been the
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  Speaker 3: Darnell Nurse whisperer. They have had some insane chemistry. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think Kulak and Nurse play well together, and they
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  Speaker 3: did not play well together in Game five. I thought
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  Speaker 3: Matis that Com was good, but I don't know. They
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  Speaker 3: got to figure out that second pairing because that's the
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  Speaker 3: pairing that wins or loses you a playoff series. You know,
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  Speaker 3: The Walman Klingberg pairing has been a revelation. I sait
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  Speaker 3: on an NHL network today in NHL tonight. They've been
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  Speaker 3: a revelation back there. They've been incredible. But this Florida
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  Speaker 3: decoor when they have Nico Mikola back, has been very solid.
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  Speaker 3: They've been the highest scoring decore of any decours in
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  Speaker 3: the Stanley Cup playoffs. This is a team that with
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  Speaker 3: that blad with Seth Jones Gustav Forslaying, they play very hard.
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  Speaker 3: They're very physical, they're very mean in your face, and
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  Speaker 3: I think they're more structure based than the Edmonton Oilers.
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  Speaker 3: But the Edmonton Ollis have moved the puck so well
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  Speaker 3: up ice. They're breaking pucks out so clean, and that
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  Speaker 3: is where the game is going to be played in
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  Speaker 3: the grain on the ford check, because Florida loves that
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  Speaker 3: four check, and if they can break the pucks out
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  Speaker 3: the way they've been breaking pucks out clean the Edmonton
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  Speaker 3: others defense, that is they are going to really cause
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  Speaker 3: fits for the Florida Panthers. But no one's been able
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  Speaker 3: to do it. No one's been able to do it.
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  Speaker 3: Edmonton got the closest, but I think with that coming back,
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  Speaker 3: they have that edge as well. So this is me
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  Speaker 3: leaning heavily on the Edmonton other side.
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  Speaker 2: But Goltening edge.
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  Speaker 3: Florida, Yes, Florida goltening edge. But if you look back
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  Speaker 3: at last year, nay not, but a year ago, young lass,
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  Speaker 3: Stuart Skinner outdueled Sergey Bobrovski in that seven game series,
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  Speaker 3: and you can check the numbers. Bob had an under
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  Speaker 3: nine hundred save percentage where Stuart Skinner had an over
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  Speaker 3: nine hundred sad percentage. It was just in the big
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  Speaker 3: moments and we had Pat Maroon with me tonight on
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  Speaker 3: AHL tonight and new analyst, and he was shocked when
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  Speaker 3: I showed him the numbers as well. Be everybody's like
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  Speaker 3: Bob's the edge, Bob's edge and like Stuart beat him
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  Speaker 3: out duell them. Bob got pulled twice in the Stanley
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  Speaker 3: Cup Finals, but when it was critical, when it was
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  Speaker 3: time to make that big save, he made it. And
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  Speaker 3: that was the difference. There was one save that whole
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  Speaker 3: playoff series, the Stanley Cup Finals was one save. Stuart
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  Speaker 3: Skinner made it and Bobrovski, sorry Stuart Skinner did make
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  Speaker 3: it on the Ryan Hart shot. Bobrovski makes it on
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  Speaker 3: the Blockers save. That was the difference. But that is
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  Speaker 3: where the is that Bobrowski has that capability to make
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  Speaker 3: that weird, you know, random Russian dolls save or you're
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  Speaker 3: kind of coming out of you know, anyway, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Just when you think he's down and out. This is
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  Speaker 3: no Bullstoy premium ballot round. Shit.
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  Speaker 2: They go very good. Yeah, teams, I did like that.
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  Speaker 3: When you get me, when you go very good. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're just like this guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Never Special teams Edmonton edge of the power play thirty percent,
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  Speaker 1: Florida's at twenty three point two, but Florida's penalty killed
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  Speaker 1: eighty seven point nine. Special teams always critical Florida here.
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  Speaker 3: I mean they've scored and what how many consecutive games Edmonton.
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  Speaker 3: I think they've figured something out on their power play.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, you're you're getting the best power play
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  Speaker 3: in the playoffs versus the best penalty kill. That is
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  Speaker 3: going to be where it happens on the offensive side,
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  Speaker 3: because if they can shut that down, you know, you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna shut down a lot of Edmonton's offense and you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to rely five on five, which they've been
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  Speaker 3: great in the past two series. So it is razor
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  Speaker 3: thin these margins. But listen, don't sleep on the Florida
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  Speaker 3: Panthers power play with Sam Ryan Hartbeck. They were anemic
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  Speaker 3: without him, and now that he's healthy, they looked very
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  Speaker 3: good in Game five against Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll go the intangibles. This is courtesy of you.
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  Speaker 1: Oilers Panthers series mark in the third final rematch across
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  Speaker 1: the last forty two years Islanders Oilers eighty three, eighty four,
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  Speaker 1: Penguins Red Wings eight nine, and both of those occurrences,
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  Speaker 1: Gretzky and Crosby rebounded from a loss their Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 1: Final debut to get redemption and earn their first championship.
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  Speaker 1: You know the famous start we all know his hockey fans.
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  Speaker 1: The Oilers were leaving and they saw they looked in
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  Speaker 1: the Islanders dressing when all the guys were beating up
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  Speaker 1: and like just moaning and growing like, oh.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it did. Those guys beat us. They won.
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  Speaker 1: I look at the sacrifice natement. That was the lesson
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  Speaker 1: the Oilers needed, and then they beat the Islanders and
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  Speaker 1: they're on their way. McDavid can join Gretzky and Crosby
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  Speaker 1: in another list. After capturing the consp by last year,
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  Speaker 1: McDavid again among the list of contenders for the award.
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  Speaker 1: He's got six goals, twenty assists twenty six points in
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  Speaker 1: six sixteen games. If he wins again, he joined Gretzky
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  Speaker 1: and Krasman a short list of skaters of multiple cons
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  Speaker 1: by wins. How about this list, Patty Waugh, Mario Lemieux,
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Orr and Bernie Parant As a sign used to say,
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  Speaker 1: only the Lord saves more than Bernie Parant. I just
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  Speaker 1: think Connor McDavid right now, Jinny is a highly motivated cat.
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  Speaker 1: We picked Canada win their first s GEPT in three
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  Speaker 1: two years. The intangible, which is McDavid oilers in seven.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I gotta ask both of you guys too,
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  Speaker 3: like as hockey fans as well, does this not give
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  Speaker 3: you chills? Like Crosby did it where he lost and
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  Speaker 3: won the next year, Gretzky did it Like how poetic
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  Speaker 3: is it? And isn't that the beautiful thing about sports?
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  Speaker 3: The passing of the baton. You got Connor McDavid with
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  Speaker 3: the opportunity to do what Wayne Gretzky and Sidney Crosby
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  Speaker 3: did and it's just like the eras shifting. Crosby's kind
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  Speaker 3: of a couple of years away from retiring, then you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have McDavid's gonna take this mantle, and then who's
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  Speaker 3: the next kid that's gonna have this kind of tell
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  Speaker 3: me potentially, we don't know, but like that's the beautiful
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  Speaker 3: thing about sports is this, Like everything else sucks is
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  Speaker 3: so boring, God damn NHL playoffs, but this moment is
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  Speaker 3: what makes it all worth. It is like Connor has
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  Speaker 3: a chance, and I don't know how you feel Canada winning.
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  Speaker 3: Connor gets let's go the Connor gets the con smythe
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  Speaker 3: potentially and the Stanley Cup what he's been chasing. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: how does that make you feel? I get chills just
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  Speaker 3: thinking about it.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, that's why. To me, it just feels like destiny.
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  Speaker 1: This is a different McDavid. You and I both called
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  Speaker 1: the Kings to win Oilers one. We both called Vegas
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  Speaker 1: to win Allers one. We're not picking against Oilers again,
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  Speaker 1: and that stands for the second foul. I'm not doing
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  Speaker 1: it again. Oiler's power play goal each of the last
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  Speaker 1: five games. Tal Gemy, your prediction, j D and I
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  Speaker 1: clearly both going Oilers.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going Oilers in seven. I think there's so
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  Speaker 4: much I mean, I keep thinking about, you're gonna keep
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  Speaker 4: me on the road for two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: That's what you want, you son of a bitch.
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  Speaker 4: I want planes, trains and automobiles for two weeks, absolutely
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  Speaker 4: between Night and Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Wearing the same underwear since Tuesday exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Those aren't pillows anyways. I just keep thinking about Connor
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  Speaker 4: McDavid on Amazon, just absolutely losing it in the locker
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  Speaker 4: room and how just how wild the moment that was
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  Speaker 4: to witness as a fan, and like him scoring the
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  Speaker 4: winner at four Nations, and you know, it's kind of
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  Speaker 4: crazy to talk about legacy a player who's not even
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  Speaker 4: been in the league that long, but like he wins
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  Speaker 4: the Consumite and they win a cup and they bring
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  Speaker 4: the cup back to Canada. Like Connor McDavid for me,
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  Speaker 4: is he's in the Gretzky zone with like Sid and
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  Speaker 4: Ovechkin and these other guys.
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  Speaker 3: If he puts that on his mantle, with.
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  Speaker 4: All the other incredible things he's done, he's officially like
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  Speaker 4: on NHL Mount Rushmore for me. And that's why I'm
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  Speaker 4: so stoked to see how the series goes.
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  Speaker 3: Oh and him and his wife just opened up this
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  Speaker 3: new bar furniture store in downtown Edmonton. I'm gonna check
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  Speaker 3: it out, give you a review. Nice fucking guy just
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  Speaker 3: just pissing excellence right everywhere he turns God. And all
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  Speaker 3: he needed was Jason Mrs. To be there one training
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  Speaker 3: camp to turn it all around. You go to teach
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  Speaker 3: these guys about culture togetherness.
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  Speaker 1: I think said all that Florida on the road is
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  Speaker 1: unbelievable high ouctin on the road.
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  Speaker 2: So I will say this. They've scored five or one
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  Speaker 2: goals in a game on seven occasions.
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  Speaker 1: Bett particular has been great in the playoffs, plus twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven gold differential away from home. So if ever there
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  Speaker 1: was a team that's gonna be undeterred by game one
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  Speaker 1: on the road, watch them just steal Game one and
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  Speaker 1: game two and to go, oh my god, here come
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  Speaker 1: the Panthers.
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  Speaker 3: Oh unflappable. But that's where the whole ice really comes
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  Speaker 3: in effect, is that they can win and stand pat
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  Speaker 3: at home. The Edmonton Oilers. They can beat Florida on
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  Speaker 3: the road. So I think it's one of those If
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  Speaker 3: I'm in that room, I'm like, boys, we get this one.
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  Speaker 3: Like I see the light at the end of the tunnel.
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  Speaker 3: These sons of bitches.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of Canada, eighteen years between Steele
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  Speaker 1: like a final appearances six to twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: Oil, there's the first Canadian team.
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  Speaker 1: To reach the final and back to back here since
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  Speaker 1: they did it back in eighty seven eighty eight they
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  Speaker 1: won two straight Cups over the Flyers and the Bruins.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's do a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: How many years? How many years since Canada hasn't won
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  Speaker 3: a Cup?
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  Speaker 2: Thirty two?
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  Speaker 3: One more time for the fans in the back. How
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  Speaker 3: long say.
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  Speaker 2: It like you mean it with some balls? How long?
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  Speaker 2: Thirty two years? It's gonna end this?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, let's get into a little bit of Dallas,
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  Speaker 1: Carolina quickly before we get to our special guest, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, Connor Garland, because we did not talk with
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  Speaker 1: the Dallas Stars and this is still making rounds.
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  Speaker 2: Jake Cottingrew's specific quote is.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Saying that he was embarrassed after getting pulled by Peter Debauer.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: You have two goals in I mean two shots. Wasn't
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: two shots, but.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: No, it was too shots.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: It was two shots shots.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: And Bower basically said, listen to us, it's a critical game.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: It's a game five. I gotta turn to mymento a round.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not blaming it all on Jake, but I do
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: think he's going to make those plays at urt Is.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: You know, he didn't call it his goalie.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: He don't call his coach because he just said listen,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: I was embarrassed by and I wasn't expecting it. He
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: did not have a great appearance against the Oilers, and
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: this is the second straight year that's happened, despite the
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: fact he's been a good playoff goalie with the exception
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: of the last two Western Conferences against the Oilers. How
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: do you see this team? De bower people, people are
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: called Peter Moore be fired right now.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: In Dallas. It's been crazy.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: It's the petswick Waw scenario. Gets me is the fuck
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: out of here, you know what. It just made it
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: worse that they plopped the backup goalie in the middle
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: of the benches and he's got to listen to Ray
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Ferraro just mumble his way and fumble his way through,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: not like rightfully, so like Ray Ferrars standing there like
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: I don't want to shit talk this kid. But they're like,
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: hey ray On, whoever's the ESPN producer or whatever, Hey
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: ray you gotta talk about this guy getting pulled, and
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: he's like, Jake Andrew's right there, like trying not to cry,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: and he's on camera talking about Jake Andrew getting pulled,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: and Jake Andrews sitting not but two feet from him.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: So I'm just like he was kind of like it's embarrassing,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Like you're on display. You want to crawl into the ice.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: You want to crawl under your under your covers with
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: a with a pint of ice cream and just watch
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Chaco la. I mean, it's just it's sad. And I
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: would be stoff Is if I was him, And you know,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: he he carted that goddamn lifeless corpse of a Dallas
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Stars team all the way to the conference finals when
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: those guys weren't scoring and allowed them to kind of
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: get there. So for him to kind of Pete to Boor,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: And I love Pete de Boor as a coach and
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: what he's done in his tenure there in his career,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: but I just don't think it was a good luck.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: I think you got to die with your best players,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: and whether you're giving them a spark and pulling them,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I think you should put him back in after the
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: second period.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: And for the heart I say about that, I like
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Hurricanes Conference final twice the past few seasons.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Still tucking Hurricanes, well.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Just one thought, just one victory to show for it.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: They respect to bring back the same quarrel though Brent
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Burns is forty needs a new contract, asks his fellow defensive.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: To beat you or Lof. I just want to quickly
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: hit you on the defenseman, Burns Orlof, what do you do?
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: I love Burnsy, It's one of my favorites. If you
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: can get him back at a you know, discount, and
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: he wants to come back and maybe play another year.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know how much longer he wants to play.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: I mean that guy could would play forever if he could.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, you put them on the third pair and
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: bring some new and I think, orl Off, you gotta
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: allowed to leave and walk. And I just think what
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: happened in the conference finals. I mean it hurt me
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: in my career at times. I was playing severely injured
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: before they started doing that pussy thing where they everybody,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: everybody says all their injuries, so you feel bad for him,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: and like, I wish I had that when I was
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: playing because I could have just released all the Yeah,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I got to realise all the concussions and torn laborams
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: and all the all the tortol and drugs I was
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: taken so I could play these games and fractured foots.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: But a lot of those series I got, you know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: abused a little bit, so they you know, and that
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: hurts you in contract talks, And that's exactly what happened
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: to him. He got really really taken advantage of in
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: that series, and you know, I just think that's gonna
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: hurt him. Come contract talks, and I think he's gonna
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: end up going somewhere else.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: And one last lot just to pig get back to
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: like a wound and new you love.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: The stat Panthers was sort a new NHL record for
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: most games played by one team and three year span.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Kurt records three hundred and nine games set by the
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Stars from ninety seven to two thousand the Red Wings
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: from six to nine. Both those teams lost the Cup
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: out the end of those three year runs. Fatigue may
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: be a factor, but I mean first rematch in the
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: last forty two years. Again, it's amazing to think, oh,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: three hundred and nine games.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: What crazy three hundred and nine and the guys that
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: have been there for all three years, and you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some injuries and it's hard to play
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: consecutive I think Phil Kessel's had like three hundred and
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: seven consecutive games and kind of when he was going
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: to the finals with playoffs. But yeah, I just think
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: it's great. It doesn't seem like you'd think fatigue would
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: come into effect. It doesn't look like it. It looks
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: like they're fresh. They looked fresh against Carolina because I think,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: you know, they had some easy not that they had
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: easy walks, but I think this year was easier than
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: the last few for them just to get through Tampa
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: was really the only team that put up any fight. Yeah,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: it's it's impressive, man, It's impressive with that culture and
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: organization has done to turn things around once again. I
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: was there to show them the way. I showed them
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: what culture means. The year after I left, they realized
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: that this is not sustainable as a culture to have
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: people and players like this, So we need to really
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: overhaul everything. And that's what I do. I expose the cracks.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Well, it's an underreported story, Lumber. You're getting here in
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: NHL and scripted how Jason de Murr's helped change.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Hockey A franchises. Yes, if you looked, Have you looked?
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Three of the four teams in the conference finals. I
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: played for Culture, that's true, and they all turned things
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: around when I left Culture.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Additioned by subtraction, he's just kidding, all right?
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Still to come here on NHL unscripted Connor Garland the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Queen's gambit.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: That's right, huge chess guy. Also coming up a World
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: championship forward team in the JD. You're gonna love them.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: World championship goals. Put some respect on his name. Baby next.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Got a world champion in the house.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Our next guest a fifth rout pick one hundred and
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: twenty third overall the twenty fifteen NHL drapt by the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Arizona Coyotes. This past season, he posted fifty points for
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the second time in his four seasons with the Vancouver Canucks.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Most recently, he was a member of the national team,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the bottom gold for America and the double IHF World
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Championships the first time since nineteen thirty three. Welcome Connord Garland.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: NHL descripted how you doing.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: Man, good? Thank you for having me, guys.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Well, first and foremost World championship. Man, what an incredible
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: story for you guys. What was the experience like for you?
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: It was awesome. You know, it's it's a grind of
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: a tournament. It's about twenty six days you go there.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: I think the first of May we met in Germany
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: and then we had a little bit of a training
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: camp and it's slow at the start, but what's the
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: game's kicking? It really goes by fast. Just to finish
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: the way we did was just just so special and
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: such a fun group to be a part of. You know,
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: it felt it felt like we had to win, just
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: with all we went through as a team and how
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: much fun we had it it was it was the
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: right way to finish.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: You've represented US now for a couple of tournaments, say
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: the least. What was different about this team for you?
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: And and and what was just the feeling in that
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: locker room from jump?
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: You know, the two other teams I was on had
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: a lot of success. We went I believe six and one.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: We won about eight games in a row and then
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: lost in the Semis. Uh. The other team we went
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: undefeated to the Semis. So the difference about this team
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: was we kind of got, you know, beat pretty good
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: early on in the tournament by Switzerland, and then we
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: we were up five to one against Norway and we
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: ended up having to win in overtime. They scored five
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: straight the third. So after that game, we kind of
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: we had a lot of changes, We worked on some
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: stuff in our system, made a couple of lineup changes,
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: and as a group, we kind of bought in and
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: it was just nice to have a wake up call
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: and kind of get your teeth kicked in by Switzerland
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: early on. And and we had we had a lot
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: of veterans that proud and and we weren't going to
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: be another US team that lost in the quarters or
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: you know, so we were really proud of how we
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: bounced back after that.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: How about Tage Thompson's overtime winning the celebration after that,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: How sweet was that?
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he gives me goosebumps when you say it, like
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: in my neck. It's the greatest. It's the greatest feeling
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: I've had in the game. Uh, you know, I I
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I've lost a lot in the semi finals or finals
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: in my career in junior and very good league and
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: the NHL last year we lost, so it's to get
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: on the other side of it. Was such a great feeling.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: I was, I was up next, I was changing for him.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: So I was sitting kind of trying to focus, uh,
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: trying to figure out. I thought Fiala was coming out.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: So I was like, Oh, this is gonna be a
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: tough task on the big ice. And uh, someone one
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: of the coaches, I believe it was night Or was
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: right behind me and he just said, you know, f
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: and finish it. And I was like, please finish it.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: So when when when you know, when I heard him
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: yell first it was I couldn't get over the boards
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: fast enough. It was a great, great feeling.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: You guys, DIDs such a classy move at the end,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Uh with the Johnny goodro jersey. Was that something planned?
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: And and you know it was a guy that's smaller
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: in stature but plays a big game. You know, what
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: did Johnny mean to you? And what did that moment
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: mean to you as a whole.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't believe it was planned. I believe Zach
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: went and got it himself. And when he when he
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: brought it out with the captains, we got around, we
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: said let's take a picture with it with the trophy.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: Awesome And we went up there and I remember him
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: telling the guy who was representing the i HF that,
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: you know, we're not we're not taking a normal photo.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: We're gonna have the jersey and uh, you know, it
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: was pretty cool, pretty special to be a part of that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: It's just Johnny was, you know, kind of embodied USA Hockey.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: I think USA Hockey's really trying to change what the
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: World Championships means to a lot of players. It's, you know,
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: used to be kind of a vacation and you go
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: over there and you play and whatever happens happens. Now it's,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: you know, we want a lot of guys, you know,
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: our top end players to go and try to win
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: each year and be a powerhouse and you know in
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: international hockey. So he was one of the guys that
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: would always go when he wasn't in the playoffs. And
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: for me personally, I met him on my tour BC.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: I was fifteen years old and Jerry York brought him
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: out of their locker room to introduce him to me,
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: and it was like seeing you know, my idol. It
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: was it was unbelievable. He's one of the first guys
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: at that size that you know, undersize used to be
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: five nine, five ten and I'm five, you know, seven
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: five eight, and that's what he was. So to see
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: somebody at that statue dominate college hockey and then the NHL,
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: it just gave me so much motivation. And you know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: he was a special, special player and.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: A special one for you guys. Paying tribute to him
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Talk with Connor Garland right now, Connor, let's talk about
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: this year coming up in Vancouver again. Lots of challenges
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: and a new coach now and Adam foot what's been
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: the message so far the footy.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Have you spoken to him?
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: We're speaking tomorrowight. Just actually just we were trying to
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: connect Cauro up. But yeah, we've just been texting and
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: he was one of the people who texted me after
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: kind of every game when I was over there. So's
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: he's awesome. It's obviously different when he's a head coach,
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: the relationship will be different, but as an assistant, you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: he's just one of the you know, one of the
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: guys you'd love to play for and very smart, very tactical. Uh,
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: but yeah, we we have a lot of challenges up front.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, our decor is one of the best
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: in the league. We probably have the best goal in Tanna,
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: But up front, we got to have some guys have
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: some big gears for us, myself included, and uh, you know,
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: I think we can we can meet another playoff team
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: if if we have if we have some guys up front,
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: we really have some good years. Uh.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I want to take it back a little bit to
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: the start. You know, you played for my alma mater,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: monkd and Wildcats. Uh, you know, talk about that organization
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: because you know, being a guy from Situate, mass Like,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: how does that decision come to be? And then you know,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: how was it for you going away from home going
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: to Monkedon and and playing on that team that you
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: know is owned by Robert Irving and they run that
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: like an NHL franchise.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good way to put it. It was. Uh,
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: it was like the mini NHL at sixteen, And that's
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: that was one of the main reasons I went about
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: how they treated their players. And the coach at the
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: time was a guy named Danny Flynn. I don't know
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: if you had them, JD, but.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I'll get through it, and then I need you after
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: you explain it, I need your best flinnrism.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: And at the end of this he was he was
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: awesome for me. He met with me when I was
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: young and explained to me how it was going to be.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: And you know, Ivan Barberschef, it just signed there from
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: Russia and we were both the same age. So the
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: plan was for us to go there and play three
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: years together and then hopefully both turn pro. So it
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: seemed like just such a good fit for me. And
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: you know, I thought, you know, obviously passing up college
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: is tough, but I thought to play in the NHL
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: is what I always wanted to do, and I thought
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: that route gave me the best chance.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: And give me your best flinnerism right now, because coach
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Flynn had the best one liners and never ran out
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: of him. So mine was, you can't help the club
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: if you're out in the pub. Yes, yeh, what was
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: your best flinnerism that you got?
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I have a line. I just
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: I just always remember being young and not understanding why
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: after games he would make us wait an hour. You know,
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: the game would end and you would get your do
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: your routine and get your suit and you're just sit
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: in the room for an hour. And at my age,
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: I just thought I just want to go home play
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: video games. But I never understood he was just keeping
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: the older guys. They're as late as possible, so they
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: had no other option but to go home. So I
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: always found that to be funny after I figure out
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: what was going on.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: You're a talented player and clearly an articulate guy. Which
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: gets is the fact you're really good at pissing other
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: people off. Where does that scale come from?
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: I think a little bit of it is just wanting
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: to win and understanding how I have to help affect
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: the team on a nightly basis. You know, as a
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: smaller guy, you know I'm competitive and I play inside
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: of people, and you know I usually are running my
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: mouth as much as I probably did when I was
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: twenty two twenty three trying to have an impact like that.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: But now it's just I try to play a little
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: physical and be in people's faces quite a bit, but
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: probably more aggravating in practice.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: So, oh are you ever?
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: You can speak to that?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Are you ever? Oh man? Did he have me squirrely bird?
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: A few times? Out there? I was in the I'd
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: be in the D line be like, I'm going to
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: kill this guy because he's so good and he's shop
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: talk with me the whole way.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: True. Yeah, so that's where I like to have my
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: most fun. But yeah, games, it's just I just enjoy winning.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: I I I so that that's really all comes down to.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: But uh, you know, I like to tow the line
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: a little bit.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Did it?
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Was it always something that did it hit you? You
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: know cause you look at and you know, I love
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: just going back to where we started and monked in
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: and you know, you had two years around sixty points
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: and then you explode for one hundred and twenty. Was
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: there something that flipped in your game or was it
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: more just the personnel around you or is it a
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: combination of both along with like you're taking on that
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: more fuck you approach that you've kind of taken with
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: you throughout your career, because it's very much how you
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: play is like you wouldn't expect a guy your size
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: to shit talk that much, and you do, and you
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: do it well, But then you're also going to the
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: net into the hard areas and you're not staying on
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: the perimeter.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I actually got hurt my seventeen year old year
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: halfway through, so I played fifty games. But after about
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: thirty games that year, I really started to produce at
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: a high level. And then I broke my wrist, so
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: I was done for the season. But I knew going
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: into that summer that I had a real good chance
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: of continuing to produce the way I did, and that
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: was when I kind of took off and had those
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: two big seasons. But it just was taking time just
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: to figure out the league. And once I figured out
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: the league, I started to have some success. But I
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: really didn't play that hard. I wasn't very hard to
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: play against. I was more just a point producer. And
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: then when I got to the AA, you know, I
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: just struggled. So I tried to play hard and figure
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: out and then I saw success that way of getting
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: closer than that getting into corners four checking more. So
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: my game evolved is into a little bit of a
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: different player, but I always had the competitiveness, and I
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: just think it comes out a different way. Now.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Is it the analytical approach that you take, because like
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: you said, you're very you know, you're very well spoken,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: you're very smart. Avid Chess player beat me a few
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: times in a hotel room late at night. But what
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: is it just figuring people out? Because for me it
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: was that as well, Like if I could play against
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: you enough times, I knew all your tendencies and then
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I could really kind of enforce the way I want
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: to play. Is that the way you look at the
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: game on a game to game basis like how what
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: tendencies can I exploit?
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think more on a personal level. I
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: think more on just a reflecting on my game, on
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: what works, what doesn't work, why I'm playing bad? And
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: you know, the season is so long, so you're gonna
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: go into ruts and then you're gonna play well and
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: you're gonna be on the plane thinking I'm never gonna
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: play bad again, and then in six games you're contemplating,
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: you know, if you're ever going to get a contract again.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: So it's really hard mentally, it's really hard, uh, you know, physically.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: So how can I find to get back to my
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: game is is kind of what I try to think about.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: And that's you know, I got to stand around the net.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: I gotta shoot more. I can't be just on the
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: outside hoping for pucks. To come to my corner. And
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: I would say that's probably the biggest thing I've evolved in.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: It's just when the game's going awry and it's two
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: or three games, how can I get back to it?
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: And I would say that's the analytical part.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I don't want to typecast all NHL players young athletes,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: but generally I hear about stories about swiping right on
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Tinder or playing PS five. I don't hear a lot
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: of guys playing chess. Connor where did this come from?
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a great asset. Playing chess, sharpens the bond, etcetera.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: As JD says analytical, Where'd that come from?
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: The school I went to growing up? I got there
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: in the fifth grade. Was a private school and they
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: had a chess They started playing chess one day in school.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: I had no idea how to play, and you know,
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: I got beat obviously very bad, and I just said,
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: and I got to get good at this game. So
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: I just started studying it. I started reading about it,
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: watching games online, trying to figure out and you know,
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: by the end of the year, I was probably the
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: top player in our in our grade. I just became
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: obsessed with it. So and then I on the COVID season,
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: I kind of got back to playing it with the
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: guys and it was a lot of fun and JD
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: some good games. Yeah, there's some really good players on
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: our team. Freddy GoChi was really good, Johan Marson, so
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: we had some good players. And now I play against
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: Quinn Hughes a lot, but we usually end up watching
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: his brother's play on TV, so it's kind of a
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: distracted game.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: What what's your favorite open? For all? Because we have
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: a lot of avid chess fans that watch our show
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: with very smart, intellectual show fan base, what is your
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: favorite open?
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: I just go two ponds and then the two nights
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: just basic opens, A basic okay.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I also got to ask you over your shoulder, I
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: see something related to Jaws.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's Jaws. You're perfectly what is
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: that Spielberg fan?
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a I'm obsessed with the movie. My
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: son's name quint After actually have the character. I have
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: a character, correct, I have a massive portrait. I don't
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: know how much I can turn this, but he's really dude,
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: that's sick. He's right over there in the corner. So yeah,
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: I became a huge fan growing up. I have another
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: shark thing over there. So I grew up in Massachusetts,
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: right down the road from Marcus Viney where they filmed it,
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: and I became a huge fan at a young age.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: So it's fiftieth anniversary.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: I got about to says released, you have no idea
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: how hard Adnan is right now. He's the biggest he's
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's this, he does his cin andphile. I mean,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: he could tell you everything about that movie. So that's awesome.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I'll be going down this year, so it'll
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: be very exciting.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Well, one of the great stories you know about the
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: movie is that you know, they had so many challenges
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: with the shark, and so they delayed the appearance of
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the shark, which everyone thought was so brilliant.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: They did it more of the necessity because the shark
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: was such a pain of the ass.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Correct, Yes, yeah, yeah, they couldn't. They couldn't show it.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: So then it became the fear was that you never
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: saw the shark, and then that that's kind of ended
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: up hurting sharks in the long run, because no nobody swims.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: You got that right, I ain't swimming at all talk
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: about h little bit just your time with you know,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: I think you know Rick talk it's been impactful on
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: your career from Arizona to Vancouver and what he's kind
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: of meant because you know he was bigger in size
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: than you, but you guys played a similar game in
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: the sense of going going to the hard areas and
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: making sure that you find ways to score in those tighters.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: But what's kind of one thing talks ty you that's
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: kind of impacted your career in a positive way.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think structure is the number one thing. I
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: think you would know me as a younger player, I
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: kind of just relied on scoring, and you know, I'd
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: play about eleven twelve minutes a night, and you know,
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: if I didn't score, I didn't really impact the game.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: So I think I went back my third season there
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: and we had a little bit of dispute in his
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: office about my role. You know, I had twenty two
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: goals a year before and led the team and I
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: was still on the third line playing twelve thirteen minutes.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: So I just went in and I said, you know
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: what's going on here? And he was very blunt. So
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: you know, he talks about it now I think it's
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: become kind of a big story in Vancouver, but it
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: is true. Said to me, he said, you're not a
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: seventeen minute player. I can't play you that much. And
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: I said, just make me one. Then you know, work
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: with me, show me. And you know, he talks about
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: how as a coach it was the first time he
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: kind of you know, had a player, you know, you know,
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: almost remind you of, Yeah, that's my job. It's not
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: just system. You got to help these guys. And I
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: was young, and that's what he did. He worked with
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: me so much. We watched so much film. Uh kind
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: of after every three or four games, I'd be in
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: there and I remember sometimes he'd be like, go, this
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: is this is it right here? What are we doing?
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: And just you know, okay, okay, you make mental notes
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: of it, and then you know, fifty games later you're
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: improving and then he can trust you. So now you know,
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: twenty eight, twenty nine, and he leaned on me a
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: lot this year. Defensively, I p k now for him,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: so you know, I've come a long way. But he
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: was a massive reason for it.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: A guy who was a great player, great goal scorer.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: You had a lot of jokes about his lack of conditioning.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: The great Phil Castle. They have a great to fill
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the fill story for us.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Uh, you know Phil, Phil, Phil's one of the best
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: teammates ever for me. He was an older guy who
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: you know, I idolized because he was in Boston and
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: you know, he just he could score from anywhere and
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: how well he skated. So I think one of the
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: one of my fair stories I tell a lot of
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: people is, you know, we had a power play play
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: once and it was a spread and someone got kicked
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: out of the face off, so I slid back up
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: top and I didn't go to my spot after that.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: I thought it was over and whatever, and we went
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: in between periods and talk let me have it, and
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: he kind of left the room and then he came
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: back and he gave it to me again, and Phil
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: stepped in and said, hey, Rick, he's got it. He's good.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: And I was so young at the time. My confidence
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: was shot. And I remember walking out for the period
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: and Phil's standing behind me. He's just telling me, man,
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: you are so good, like man one hundred and twenty
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: points in junior. Oh man, you are nasty, Like how
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: many goals do you have this year and we were
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: walking all the way through Geel and He's just pumped
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: me up the whole way. By the end of it,
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: I was like, he's right, yeah, real good. So I
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: just remember thinking about that, like, you know how you're
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: doing that for a twenty two year old kid. It
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: is pretty cool.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. He was always you know, I think people forget
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: that narrative about Phil that like he was a lot
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: more team first than people thought, and wanted to help guys,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: and he just was so mentally in his own head
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: that you know, you'd sometimes lose it because he did buddy,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I'm done, Buddy, I can't play anymore. But like you're like,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: he would always reach out and help guys and be
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: forthcoming with his time.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. It was the sticks that year too. He
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: couldn't find after the Eastern Sticks ended, he couldn't he
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: couldn't find the right stick. So that was that was
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: probably the most laughs Iver had.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Were you there when you shave the boards down at Guila?
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Yes? Yes, he was showing the spin on the boards.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: He couldn't handle it on the.
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: Power play and he had Rick come out and he's
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: trying to get ripped fire and pucks at Rick. You
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: see the spin he had this poor guy from Gila
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: buffering down the boards.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: He's probably right too, oh, I mean, yeah, he's He's
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: never wrong, Phil, that's for sure. He's never never wrong.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: What I mean talk to me just about like, what
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: do you think, you know, lastly before we let you
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: go here, you know what, And it's tough because I
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: don't want to put you in a bad spot. So
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: it's just more like, what do you what are you
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: hoping for from this offseason with Vancouver? What do you
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: think this team needs to kind of take that next step,
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: get back to where you were two years ago, Because
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, you guys weren't far two years ago, even
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: though you were kind of riding a third string goalie
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: and she loves Yeah, yeah.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: We were far. You know, we were far from making
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: this Staey Cup, obviously losing Game seven and you tip
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: your cap to the Oilers, but you know we were
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: in a dogfight that whole time. This year, we weren't
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: far off too. That's the worst part. Obviously we had
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: a lot of drum and a lot of storylines come
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: out of Vancouver, and you know, i'd say the water,
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: you know, on the outside was a lot rockier than
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: it felt like on the inside for us, But you know,
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: we were still in the hunt up until two games
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: left in the season. So yeah, Saint Louis goes on
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: a fourteen game run and that's tough. You got to
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: keep pace with them. But you know, I don't think
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: we're very far off. Obviously we you know, I'm not
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: a GM, I'm not a coach. I'm a player, and
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: I have to worry about, you know, getting back and
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: having a good year. My second half wasn't very good
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: after the four Nations break, and you know, I was
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: our top producer up front night fifty points and that's
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: not good enough for a playoff team. So I have
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: to have a better year. And I hope a lot
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: of guys are saying the same thing, which you know,
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: I know from talking to a lot of guys they are.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: So we're a determined group. We're focused, and you know,
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: we got a lot of special players, and you know,
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: we got one of the best goalies in the league,
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: and I think that's always a recipe for success. But
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: you know, we get off to a good start. I
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: feel pretty good about our chances.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I love it. Accountability that's what every team needs. And lastly, man,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I know you just had a kid. Talk about playing
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: as you know, I knew you as a young, brash,
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: confident skilled young kids you know, no kids know nothing,
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: no family, and now you got that. How's it been
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: that adjustment of playing with the kid versus you know,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: going home and playing chess online.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah. What he wants to say is he knew me
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: when I was a young idiot who showed up at
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: the rink about thirty minutes before our meeting. So it
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: just talk.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Hey, we all grow into it. Hey, we all had
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: our we all had our things. I mean I was
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: still I was still an idiot at thirty exactly. Fantasy football. No,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: what what's it been like? Man, just just playing with
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: a kid and the difference it it is it takes
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: to kind of compete in this league with that.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it's it's it's unbelievable. It's uh, it definitely
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: changes real fast. You know. It's there's no like, hey,
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: can I go out to dinner with the guys on
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: a Friday night anymore? It's your home with your kid.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: But he makes it so worth it and having him
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: at the glass and warm ups and you know, you know,
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: his godfather's you know, Quinn Hughes. So bringing him into
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: the rink and seeing him and guys like the Code
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: of Joshua and Brock Best who I'm really close with,
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: and having them hold them and it's pretty it's pretty awesome.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: It's pretty special. But the off season has been great.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: We're just you know, since I've been home, just spending
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: a lot of time with him, and he's starting to laugh,
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: he's starting to try to get words out and crawl.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: So we've just had a great time together, you know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: and and it's, uh, it's awesome, and I'm just excited
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: for him to keep growing and be able to grow
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: up in a rink.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Last thing, do you want to ask a Cup Finals prediction?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Oilers or Panthers?
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: What do you got? Oh, it's too hard. They're just
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: both such fantastic teams.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: I think, come on, I've already thought about that.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: I would say it sounds weird, but I'd say the look,
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: the look on Connor's face after you know that boy,
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: he looks pretty, he looks pretty locked in. It's that's
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: a tough guy to beat when he's at his best. So, uh,
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: you know, obviously it's gonna be tough, but yeah, I'd
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: probably say I'd like the oilers.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Chances you play. You lived four years in Canada, Come
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: on Canada.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: But but their arrivals and I will get in trouble
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: from Vancouver saying.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: That, oh that that is true politically.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so Ill, he's a smart man, smartman on
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: the ice, spartman offanks. Connor Garland, thanks so much for
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: the insight man again. Best to your son, Quint. What
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: a great name, and enjoy Jaw's fiftieth anniversary. We'll talk
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: to you soon.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: Thanks many, thank you.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: As you hit into the summer season, you're cinephile and sixty.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I think it's a great time to read a good book.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: So I'm going through my list to the Holiday Reporter.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Tals a big fan his buddy' Seth one of the
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: writers there. They did a list of the top one
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: hundred books ever about film and television. Number seven on
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: that list is Julia Phillips's book You'll Never Eat Lunch
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: in This Town Again, Number seven.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: All timeless.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: So I gotta go pick this up. Checked it out
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: from the library, five hundred and sixty one pages. It
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: is a Scabbrous, Look Out of Hollywood and what went Down.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: She was the producer of the Sting with Robert Redford
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Paul Newman. One was the first one ever to win
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: an Academy Word for producing. Later is one of the
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: producers on Taxi Driver, Great Stories about Scorsese, and worked
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: with Steven Spielberg speaking of Connor Garland and Jaws.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Worked with Spielberg on Close Encounters. The Third Kind.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Eventually had a serious drug problem, was free basing cocaine
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: and was out of Hollywood.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Everyone was doing drugs.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but eventually I was able to reclaim her career somewhat.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: But then Hollywood had changed in the eighties. All they
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: cared about was, you know, Top Gun and franchises aren't
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the hell, it's you know what, I write a book.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going to write a book and just blow up everybody.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: And this book is an unbelievable read in terms of
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: candid tell All books. Here's her thoughts on Dom Simpson,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: who was one of that he had producers of Top Gun.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: He feels very free but expressing his preferences. We seem
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: to have revolved mainly around turning women over, and I'm
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: grateful we never get to intercourse, because I don't think
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I'd like it very much his way. We stay tight friends,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: but it is by silent mutual agreement that will be.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: No more sex. So this is on taxi driver. Sir
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: says he's very worried about the editing.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: What's going to be happening, So she says Marty calls him,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: calls her sorry two in the morning and an intense murmur.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: He says to me, there's only one way to deal
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: with Stanley Jaffe. I'm going to go and buy a gun,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: a little gun. I'm a little person, and I'm going
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: to shoot him. I laugh, but Marty doesn't lift back.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: I wish all these guys would stop hanging out with
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: John Millius, all these guys, he's antique guns. So also,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: and all these guys have guns, I said, Marty, what
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: was shooting Stanley Jeaffey accomplished. I sit up in bed
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: and light a cigarette. I puffe it defiantly into the receiver.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Marty wheezes, is bad asthma. You're right, I can't shoot him.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe just threaten him. Is it with a small gun
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: or a large gun? Marty makes a noise. I root
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: for this to be laughter, but of course it is
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: more wheezing. I decide to go for my strong producer performance. Marty,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: you just keep cutting it the way you want to
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: cut it.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Let Michael lead. Deal with the Columbia. We're gonna be
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: release this movie in February. It is December. Don't worry.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: We'll make it work later on. Again, Marty persists, I
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: know we'll make a very short Listen to deal.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I'm a short person here. What cuts can we do?
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Later on?
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: We have to newly color the ending, and Marty cackles.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Look what it does to Marty's brains seems more pronounced
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: That's right. Marty chokes joyously. Isn't that great?
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I cackle too, mostly at bent pleasure. Scarsese is one
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: of the few people I know who, with this statue,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: have so much cloud. And he's also very sick and
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: very funny and entertaining man, and I love him. And lastly,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: from Julia Phillips's.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Book, well More, Okay, we go one more.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: She's trying to reclaimer career of this producer. He arrives
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: as my assistant Karen is about to leave. Some instinct
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: to me asks her to stay. I shoot to throw
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: up the movie, pile a bunch of pillows on my
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: bed for his head. My cat jumps on the bed
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: in front of Freddie's face. He jerk's back. I always
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: want to see your pussy, but I didn't know it
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: would be so soon. Julia Phillips, You'll never eat lunch
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: in this town again. This is a book if you
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: want to read what Hollywood is truly all about, the
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: nasty people that are involved in this, the salacious, lewd
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: and decent allegations. You will love this book and stories
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: with Steven Spielberg on The Close Encounters of the Third Kind,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: she referred to Spielberg as difficult, demanding, arrogant, and she
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: said that prick wouldn't know the first thing about Hollywood.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I taught him to write in a first class limo,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he got me fired with
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: this at a Close Encounters. Unbelievable story telling with Julia Phillips.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what happened to her, essentially, because she
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: wrote this book and just told tales and everybody ripped everyone.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: She never really worked in Hollywood again.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: But we have the evidence of an unbelievable book for
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: all you women out there when I work in Hollywood.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: You'll never eat lunch in this town again. Julia Phillips
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: available at.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Your local library. Let's get back to the hockey. Lane Lambert,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: how it is his salad?
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: How do how do we recover after this?
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Well, one of the best heads of the hair it
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: gets a job as a head coach of Seattle crack
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: and was an assistant to Berry Trotz in Nashville, Washington
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: and the Islanders. Was also the head coach of the
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Islanders for Seeds and Half were replaced by Patrick Waugh Kracking.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: As you and I have discussed, you do, you have
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: very nondescript Bland identity challenge team Lane Lambert. That's your
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: face of charisma, that's gonna bring the that's gonna put
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: asses in the seats, sixty year old Lane Lambert.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean the one thing about Lane is like
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: he's kind of done a little bit of everything in
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: the league. So he's been a pepe coach, he's been
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: a penalty goal coach, he's been a you know, five
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: on five D coach, offensive coach, so he's kind of
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: knows every role. So I think, you know, having another
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: set of eyes and understanding what you need for each
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: of those positions is super important. So anxious to see
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: what he does. I mean, all of Seattle's moves have
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: been a little head scratching, but Lane Lambert's kind of
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: was the sexiest option other than Mitch love. So I
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: think it's interesting as the Seattle cracking, which is like, Okay,
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: let's see what they do and see what happens. And
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: I feel like they're very close to the edge of
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: just everything getting blown up. So they need to figure
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: out because they've got a good fan basic climate pledge,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: and they need to honor that fan base and fucking
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: do something. And the thing that interests me with this
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: higher as well as I forgot to say, is I
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: mean he was part of the Maple Leafs this year,
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: so assistant coach associate coach learn under Craig Berube a
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: little bit. I mean, I think it was a good team.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: He you look at them bringing him here, Mitch Marner,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Seattle cracking, ow fun, Seattle cracking.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: I like, it's well done. That that is connecting some dots.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Well, fuck, I gotta do everything here. I got a
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: social media I gotta do the leads. Come on, help me,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: help you speak of the leads.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Good to see Jillian going to see gle Gery len Ross.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Thank you for I was with her. I saw glengarygan Ross.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: How was it? Speaking of the leads, it was great.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Speaking of the leads, he got the leads from the
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: dog shit leads, three leads that closed them. Patel, Yeah, Patel,
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: and the theater erupted.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Patel rather than Patel pull a bunch.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Of pollocks with their money and their socks.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Bil Burr feels like he's at living half of those
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: racist dietribes.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I feel like Bill Burr's Bill Burr plays Bill Burr.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: I loved I mean Bob Odenkirk, Yeah, because I mean
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: the role that he was in was just amazing and
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: the way embodies it was. He got He got Kulkin
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: too break during the show.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: He did what happened.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: He just was doing that scene when he's talking when
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: he's talking about the sailor just did to the couple,
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: and he's like, and I had the pin and I
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: twisted the knight, you know, I twisted and twisted And
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: he's like pointing at Culkin, and Culkin's like visibly laughing,
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: and he walks away to kind of like do the
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: scene where he pulls the chair and he's almost addressing
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: the audience.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is after loss is big exit build.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Culkin's still giggling in the corner, like holding
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: his mouth. So people were like kind of laughing and
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: oh nice and enjoying it a little bit because he
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: was like visibly breaking because I just thought it was funny. Yeah,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: that was a great It's a very good show. Good concept.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Howt flips and switches at the end. Go see it
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: if you're in New York. Yeah, and tell him that
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Jason Demurs sent you.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: I love the Bilberd.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Michael mckeon'stein that second scene, just the interplay between Moss
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: and Aerono.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well the first two. Yeah, it's one guy talking,
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: one guy making you know, it's just good writing. Quick mammot, Oh,
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: very quick, very fast, get to the point. Fifty minutes show. Yeah,
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: it's staccato, repetitive.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: It's incredible. Last one for it.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Taves has informed his Asian paperson as one hundred
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: percent committed to coming back to the NHL next season.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Thirty seven last played to April twenty three or three.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: It's been two years, so you were on the record.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: You went against Mike Rupp. You said, gabrielanis I was
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: gonna come back and make it impact. What do you
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: expect with Taves potentially coming back?
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: And I was right?
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if I just said I said you were, you
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: would to give Mike ruperts.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: It's hard being right all the time. I don't understand.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: I like being wrong. I enjoy it. I'm not some masochist.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: I enjoy being wrong so much it turns me on
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: when I'm wrong. You'd rather be wrong, but you're rather
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: I tell everybody I'd rather be wrong because me being
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: right all the time. Oh, it's not good. It's not good.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: It means everything's fucked anyway. Uh yeah, Back to Jonathan Taves.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: I think he can impact the team. I mean, John
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: if uh you know, you got to I compare him
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: right now if I haven't seen him skate or play
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: John Tavera's esque and John Tavera's esque with a high
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: hockey IQ is able to impact the game. And the
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: issue now is that a lot of the young kids.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: It's not the issue. But the league has never been
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: more young, never been more exciting, never been more offensively dominated,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: but never been dumber in the hockey IQ and Jonathan
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Taves is very high IQ. And you see the guys
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: that's why you see more players with high IQ in
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: the league having all of a sudden, these better seasons
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: are sticking around longer because then the youth that has
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: come in is not as smart and detail oriented. That's
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: why Corey Perry is still doing what Corey Perry does
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: at forty years old. And I think Jonathan Taves, if
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: he's in shape and healthy, I think he can really
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: help a team a good team. You shouldn't go to
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: a bad team. He should go to a high end team.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: I could see him maybe going to a Colorado.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: So third line center and a great team, second line
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: center and a bad team.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Is that fair? I think third line center all around
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: still effective.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Still guys can get things done. Three stars. Come on,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: tell give us out a league we got.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you were talking about the guys who were not
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: coming back from the pactors from last year's Cup run.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: That was you know, Montour and Eckman, Larson being the
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: main guys. And I just think my selection Aaron Eckblad
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: has just taken it to a whole he Aron, Hey, Aron, exactly.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: But yeah, He's just been.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: There.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: He is there.
• 53:09
  Speaker 7: He is Pinchevski's point eighty five points per game in
• 53:14
  Speaker 7: these playoffs and third in playoffs scoring among d men
• 53:18
  Speaker 7: eleven points in thirteen games.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: I did a little stat digging. Here's what I came
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: up with, and I'm just gonna drop the mic on this.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: Florida ten and three with him in the lineup, one
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: and three without him in the lineup. He missed four
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: games because of suspensions, eight and one in the playoffs.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: When Aaron Ekblad gets a point, Boom, that's my selection.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Wow, Boom goes to Dynamite. That's a great one, all right, Ad,
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: then hit it.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I got Sasha Barkoff. He's won the Selki twice. Favorite
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: take on the trophy again this season. If he does win,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: he'll be the sixth player to win three or more
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Sealky trophies, join a list of Bob Gainey, Patrice Burgromp
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Paboldatzuk you' Latin and Geek carbon Hill. He's captain of
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Squad of three streets still like a file appearances. He's
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: eleventh player in hockey history to do that, just the
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: second to do it in the last forty years. Steven
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: stamp cost did with the Lightning and last year became
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: the first Finish born captain lift the Stanley Cup. You
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: think of all Swedish no finish, but think of the
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: great Finnish born players Yari Curry, Tiamo Salani bark Off
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: on that list, arguably the best two way player in
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: the NHL. He's not gonna turn thirty until September. I
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: want to give some love to him, captain his team
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: back to the Stanley Cup.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: Jitty, are we sticking on Florida all of us?
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: No?
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: I picked to wins. So I want to get Florida
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: some love.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: With three Yeah we we really we Yeah, we really
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: sucked off Edmonton there for a while. Let's give Florida
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: a little love. I'm gonna go with Carter Ver. Swegy
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: nice uh leads all players in game winning goals in
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: the past I mean three years. I mean he is
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: just mister clutch. Got the clutch gene, something that Lebron
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: James does not possess, but he has it in space.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Lebron James's four championships. Swegy just a sideway swipe there. Yeah.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: I like this.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: I like the classic drive by Barry somebody, thanks.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: So much for checking l trip to Conteror, Garland was
• 55:01
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• 55:04
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• 55:06
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• 55:09
  Speaker 1: can get out there for media Day. Bob Bender still
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: working on up in the air. See if we get
• 55:13
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• 55:16
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• 55:18
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• 55:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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