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MediTayshia · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. It's another week of the Almost
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Speaker 1: Famous Podcast. It's crazy to think, actually that like tatious
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Speaker 1: season will be coming to an end very soon, like
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Speaker 1: this was. This has been a monumental season for this podcast,
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Speaker 1: for Batch Nation, and now we're like almost done with it,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sad. I'm sad too. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: I could ever get better. This is such a great season.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I've gotten so invested into these relationships, especially
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Speaker 1: with Zach. We'll talk about that later. Yeah, isn't it
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Speaker 1: crazy though, now that we kind of look back because
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Speaker 1: this is the episode every year, you know, Fantasy Suite
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Speaker 1: things start getting real, like, you know, not start getting real.
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Speaker 1: They've already been real, but they start getting more intimate.
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Speaker 1: I think it's the word I was hoping for their um.
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Speaker 1: We know that they've had some type of physical connection
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Speaker 1: to whatever extent they want to have a physical connection,
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Speaker 1: but least they've had their you know, time to have it.
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Speaker 1: And I was sitting there watching this week and it
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Speaker 1: hit me how long ago it feels like Claire's season was. Now.
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Speaker 1: It's bizarre. It's so weird to look back. It was
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Speaker 1: only like h two months ago. Two months ago. Wait,
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Speaker 1: it's like the longest season ever. Yeah, I started like October,
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Speaker 1: the first week of October or something. Well, there are
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Speaker 1: more episodes than most seasons, understandably so, but it was
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Speaker 1: it does feel like a lifetime away that Claire and
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Speaker 1: Dale got. It's absolutely wild. Well, hey, anyways, we got
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Speaker 1: a big episode to break down today. We're gonna break
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Speaker 1: down this latest episode. It was Fantasy suiteks this week,
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Speaker 1: and then we have some Bachelor headlines to cover. So Ashley,
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Speaker 1: my first comment is, Hey, one of our favorite people
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Speaker 1: in Baschel Nation never can see enough of her fantastic
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Speaker 1: human Jojo is back this week. Has she just lived
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Speaker 1: at Laquita for the last like six months. I'm so
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Speaker 1: mind boggled. They had to have kept her at least
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Speaker 1: another four days just for this conversation, right, four days?
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Speaker 1: Wacky Like, Hey, Jocho is great, no harm, no foul.
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Speaker 1: Would love to see her on our TV. She's she's
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Speaker 1: a good personality. However, for her what she do, it
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Speaker 1: is she just is she just kicking it by the pool,
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Speaker 1: like hanging out in her sweet Like there can't be
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Speaker 1: that much going on at Laquita. It's it's a closed
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Speaker 1: down resort, I know. I mean she had free room
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Speaker 1: obviously at that point. So but like free room really
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Speaker 1: doesn't give you a lot while being there. It gives
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Speaker 1: you pool access. It's not like the spas open. It's
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Speaker 1: not like she could. I don't even know she I
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Speaker 1: don't even know what else there would me to do,
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Speaker 1: just wandering around restaurants in a d and fifteen degree weather.
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Speaker 1: But so that starts to show off, and then we
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Speaker 1: have a date with Ivan. Actually, what's your take on
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Speaker 1: their relationship with Ivan at this point? It's one that
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Speaker 1: started out strong. We've had some big moments in their
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Speaker 1: relationship up to this point, some really good conversations, a
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Speaker 1: great connection. He's been one of the fan favorites since
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Speaker 1: the beginning. And this is really the week for me.
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Speaker 1: I mean last week is a big week, but this
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Speaker 1: is the week for me. We're gonna really, I think,
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Speaker 1: start to understand where their relationship is. And I think
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Speaker 1: their relationship is at the bottom of the told him Pole, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's this relationship is obviously lacking compared to the others,
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Speaker 1: and I'm including Ben in there. I love Ivan, He's
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Speaker 1: so sweet, he has such a nice family. I think
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Speaker 1: he's great on paper. I think they get along well,
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Speaker 1: but I still feel more friendship vibes than anything else,
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Speaker 1: Like for long term friendship vibes, they're like the couple
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Speaker 1: that dates for a bit and then they become friends. Well.
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Speaker 1: Last week, on the episode um or maybe this was
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Speaker 1: the stereo app episode that we did, people started writing
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Speaker 1: some questions to us, and I think it's one question
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Speaker 1: we get around too, but it's you know, who do
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Speaker 1: we think the next Batchel will be? Well? If Ivan
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Speaker 1: is not picked with Tassia, I believe he is a
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Speaker 1: tremendous bachelor choice. Um And I could definitely see that.
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Speaker 1: I would agree with you, I guess in comparison to
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Speaker 1: you know, these other relationships. Now, knowing what we know
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Speaker 1: about Brendan being gone, I would say it's like a
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Speaker 1: zach er beIN race at this point, which is interesting
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Speaker 1: considering Been you know, had left and is coming back.
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Speaker 1: But the cool part about this final three, and we
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Speaker 1: don't always have this in a season, this final three
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Speaker 1: now is all people that we can root for. I
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Speaker 1: think you and I both are kind of on the
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Speaker 1: side of Zack and Ivan. You know, after kind of
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Speaker 1: Ben's mess up with with Tasha uh and and knowing
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Speaker 1: where they stand, Like, we're definitely the Ivan and Zach
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Speaker 1: kind of cheering squad right now, but we know that
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Speaker 1: Ben could still be there at the end. We're not
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Speaker 1: to get city either. Obviously Vagination has a huge affinity
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Speaker 1: for Ben Smith. I'm not against it, but I was
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Speaker 1: pretty open about my feelings last week. I don't think
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Speaker 1: it's going to be the best long term choice for UM,
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Speaker 1: but it's not. But like, obviously there's something very strong there.
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Speaker 1: But but yes, your your initial point. All these guys
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Speaker 1: are very routable. I love Ivan, it just as this
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Speaker 1: their date was great, right, But then you watch the
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Speaker 1: rest of the episode and I'm like, okay, well, Ivan's
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Speaker 1: the ongoing, Like there's just no doubt about it. We'll
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Speaker 1: get we'll talk more about it during the next day.
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Speaker 1: But you know, first we we see that they do
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Speaker 1: the the cold bath. There's a world record thing, and
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Speaker 1: it seems awful. Actually gives me anxiety. That cold well,
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Speaker 1: I was like, thank goodness, the top half of their
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Speaker 1: body isn't like degree pom springs heat and then the
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Speaker 1: lower half of their body is going through that. So
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Speaker 1: there's like a little bit of a balance becauld you
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Speaker 1: imagine doing that in any other climate? Isn't it? Isn't
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Speaker 1: it medical? You've got to ask your dad at some
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Speaker 1: point and let me know. But is it medically if
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Speaker 1: you go from like super hot to really cold, your
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Speaker 1: body like like your body doesn't react well to it,
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Speaker 1: Like it's not healthy for you. I don't Yes and no,
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Speaker 1: Like I think we're growing up. We were always told that.
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Speaker 1: But now, like all those therapies like cryotherapy and like
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Speaker 1: these water experiences that you get its spas where you're
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Speaker 1: supposed to go from cold to hot, and like there's
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Speaker 1: some sort of spark that goes off in your body.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Should also ask Claire about it, because
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Speaker 1: Claire does it all the time. She takes a cold
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Speaker 1: bath like this every other day. I'm very sensitive to cold.
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Speaker 1: I would be like, this is the worst date ever.
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Speaker 1: I can't believe we're doing this. Um My buddy, My
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Speaker 1: buddy gets in a cold bath every day and he
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Speaker 1: loves it. He says he's like smarter afterwards. My problem
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Speaker 1: is this. Actually, there's moments during the show that I watched.
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Speaker 1: I try to put myself in their shoes. I would
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Speaker 1: have been the biggest baby, Like you would have seen
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Speaker 1: me squealing, Like they handled it better than I would like.
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Speaker 1: I would have been like squealing getting into that cold
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Speaker 1: bath and having to sit there long. That would be
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Speaker 1: me to like probably just scream the entire five minutes.
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Speaker 1: But I know I had to kiss whatever. So how
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Speaker 1: many times have I said whatever in the past two minutes? Whatever?
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Speaker 1: But whatever, it's like horrible or whatever. Okay, so then
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Speaker 1: another horrible thing, like poor Ivan. He gets from this
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Speaker 1: this ice cold bath to having to have his fantasy
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Speaker 1: suite and the smallest Winnebago. Like that wasn't cute. That
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Speaker 1: was like it's so weird. It's like everybody else has
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Speaker 1: this beauty. Well, the only other fantasist we saw was Zach,
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Speaker 1: but every other fantasy suit was seen on this series.
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Speaker 1: It's like a nice big room, like you get the
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Speaker 1: bigger room than you have ever had this whole experience,
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Speaker 1: and this time they like cram them into the small
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Speaker 1: room and then like everybody's talking about like, oh, well
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Speaker 1: they have sex. That thing is gonna be rocking. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so awkward. Oh I hate those things, But actually, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm not one to blame production for everything. I've never
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Speaker 1: been that way. I think we have to hold the contestants,
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Speaker 1: have to hold themselves accountable. I don't think production plays
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Speaker 1: like I'm the present god in all things during this show. However,
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Speaker 1: this didn't make me think I want you to and
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Speaker 1: this is not a bash on the show, but remind
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Speaker 1: me of past seasons. Is there things that they do
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Speaker 1: during this crucial week that I know personally how important
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Speaker 1: it is and how much you really just want to
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Speaker 1: get time with these humans away from the cameras to
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Speaker 1: like solidify anything you're feeling thinking wondering. Is anyway that
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Speaker 1: they set this up when there is somebody that maybe
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Speaker 1: they want to be the next bachelor to not be
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Speaker 1: with Tassia. I don't think what they did on the
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Speaker 1: day is going to make or break okay, him becoming
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Speaker 1: the next bachelor, No, no, no, but like I mean
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Speaker 1: make or break their relationship, make or break their relationship
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Speaker 1: and therefore leading him to the Bachelor rather than leading
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Speaker 1: him to Tasha. Now, I don't think the activity is
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Speaker 1: determined that, but I do think that they purposely put
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Speaker 1: um the whole wedding band meet with Neil Lane Sessh
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Speaker 1: with Brendan, so it would freak him out even further
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Speaker 1: and drive him to being like, Okay, no doubt, I
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Speaker 1: gotta leave. Yeah, I'm out. Okay, fair enough. I I
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Speaker 1: just wondered because I watched it this week and that
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Speaker 1: was a very clear I think everybody in Bachelinations would go, hey,
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Speaker 1: cute date write Some people like that more than others,
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Speaker 1: but definitely not like the luxurious, big, expansive room with
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Speaker 1: space that other people have. Like I think, I just wondered, hey,
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Speaker 1: is this on purpose? And if so, what would be
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Speaker 1: the angle? But maybe not. I don't know, not the thoughts,
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Speaker 1: but but now because because of what we see in
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Speaker 1: the next day with Zach, and it's just like night
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Speaker 1: and day. Sorry, I can't really get you with these two.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I like, truly have
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Speaker 1: not felt this type of passion for a budding bachelor
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Speaker 1: couple in a very very very long time. I can't
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Speaker 1: not like get into that upper octave when I speak
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Speaker 1: of them. So does he give you? Does he give
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Speaker 1: you sean booth vibes? Um? Yeah, in the swag sense,
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Speaker 1: the fact that he has like that presence. But I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think he looks most like Nick, and this is
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Speaker 1: really weird. He also looks like a young Robert DeNiro.
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Speaker 1: What I thought that was the weirdest thing. So Jared
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Speaker 1: goes for you know, Jared doesn't watch every week, so
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Speaker 1: he's like, who's Zach the one that looks like Robert DeNiro?
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Speaker 1: And I was like, what in the f And then
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Speaker 1: he was like, I was like this one, and he goes, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he looks like Robert. How are you seeing that? He goes,
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Speaker 1: there's memes everywhere about this, and then I really looked
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Speaker 1: at his face and I was like, oh, damn, I
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Speaker 1: see it. I'm gonna look this up as you're breaking
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Speaker 1: down this week this date was Zack, I'm gonna look
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Speaker 1: up at young Robert de Niro because I've never thought
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Speaker 1: about this, but that would be an incredible, incredible comparison. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so it's it's true. So we know that they like
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Speaker 1: do the whole painting thing. It's very much like what
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Speaker 1: Carly and Evan didn't paradise during, like the date that
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Speaker 1: they fell in love with fell in love on. Uh.
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Speaker 1: It's very sexual. It's like a weird. They're like rolling
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Speaker 1: around mixing, making all these colors together. This kiss, the
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Speaker 1: way that she holds him, the way that he holds her,
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Speaker 1: like everything out their physical chemistry is so much different
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Speaker 1: than what we see on the dates with Brendan and Ivan,
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Speaker 1: like there's just steam nous, so much steaminess. And then
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Speaker 1: fast forward to them sitting down at the table and
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Speaker 1: he's like, I have something to tell you, like I'm
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Speaker 1: going to rip the band aid off. It was kind
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Speaker 1: of cute the way that he approached the conversation and
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Speaker 1: he was like, I'm in love with you. And then
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Speaker 1: she was like, oh my god, I'm in love with you.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, see they are there. That's it, That
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Speaker 1: is it? Why would we ever think she was going
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Speaker 1: to end up with somebody other than Zach, Like she
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Speaker 1: has to end up with Zack after that, immediately I'm
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Speaker 1: jumping to also tell you that I love you moment. Well,
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Speaker 1: here's my question. That eliminated Ivan right there. To me,
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Speaker 1: it did, but it doesn't eliminate Ben, which we'll talk
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Speaker 1: about later. But here's something for everybody to sit on
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Speaker 1: until we get into the Bink conversation being comes to
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Speaker 1: Tassia and if Tassia reciprocates, can she pull the old
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Speaker 1: daunting very not good for anybody too. I love you
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Speaker 1: moment during this season. Still, that's the only thing that
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Speaker 1: is going to create any sort of tension or any
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Speaker 1: sort of like, any sort of feeling that we haven't
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Speaker 1: figured it out yet, and it's all going to happen
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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Like all these twists and turns that could
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Speaker 1: be coming our way comes tomorrow night. This is all
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Speaker 1: crammed in one episode. So we'll break down, Zack. Then
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Speaker 1: you're right, we don't have to wait. You said a
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Speaker 1: few things that really sit out to me. One, this
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Speaker 1: was a very passionate date, and it was a very
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Speaker 1: passionate experience between Zack and Tassia. Tassha is like giddy,
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Speaker 1: you know, she has this like now, I've obviously in
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Speaker 1: a very committed, very happy relationship. You are as well.
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Speaker 1: Many the listening are as well, like those that season
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Speaker 1: of life is amazing, right when you're just so giddy
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Speaker 1: and you're so excited. I'm so excited for them. In fact,
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Speaker 1: Jessica just moved to Denver this week, and so we've
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Speaker 1: been able to see each other for like multiple days
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Speaker 1: in a row, and I like get to wake up
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Speaker 1: in the morning and be like, what are you doing
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Speaker 1: to day. I get to see you. That's exciting for me, right,
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Speaker 1: that's a big deal. It's still I'm still in that
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Speaker 1: giddy phase. Now. I'm not a believious the thing that like, hey,
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Speaker 1: that's gonna always be there at some level, but it
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Speaker 1: might pass. But they have I'm saying all of this
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Speaker 1: to say that they do have something that cannot be dismissed,
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Speaker 1: and that is a giddiness and excitement and attraction. But
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Speaker 1: I don't think the one thing Tastia has done really
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Speaker 1: well this season and shown us now it is actually
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Speaker 1: good looking fella and he does look like a young
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Speaker 1: Robert and neurobum so I looked it up. It's trick.
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Speaker 1: But this isn't just a physical attractive connect, Like there
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Speaker 1: is a depth to this where the giddiness comes from,
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Speaker 1: a like, I want to say, a comfortability between the
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Speaker 1: two of them that like just wants the cameras to leave.
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Speaker 1: Almost so I don't see this. I'll sit here right now,
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Speaker 1: knowing we only have a few minutes before or a
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Speaker 1: few hours before we'll know and say, like, I will
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Speaker 1: be absolutely shocked if it's not Zack. It can't be
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Speaker 1: beat at this point. That's why it'll be the most
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Speaker 1: it'll be here. I'm gonna say it, big statement, it
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Speaker 1: will be the most shocking finale to me if he's
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Speaker 1: had the winner. Yes, I would agree with you, and
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that right now so that everybody out
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Speaker 1: there listening, Actually you're going to claim that as well
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Speaker 1: and say that, and typically we don't. I don't think
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Speaker 1: we are this confident in a winner. Yes, this week,
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Speaker 1: they could be throwing us the craziest twist ever though
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Speaker 1: by her not pegging him, I'll say they'll There has
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Speaker 1: been more dramatic endings as far as like bro Act
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Speaker 1: not choosing anyone, or like whatever happened with Peter and
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Speaker 1: his mom and that finale was insane, But as far
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Speaker 1: as like who is picked in the end, it'll be
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Speaker 1: the most shocking to me if it's not Zack, I
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Speaker 1: would agree with you. I'm I'm putting all my eggs
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Speaker 1: in the Zack basket. That's the one way this thing
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Speaker 1: can turn on us. And you know you're right, you
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Speaker 1: just you just reference it. Like Peter, we had no
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Speaker 1: clue he was going to choose. Like we're like, don't
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Speaker 1: choose anybody because it doesn't feel like its gonna be Maddie.
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Speaker 1: We thought was obviously gonna be Maddie. I guess that
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Speaker 1: was actually at that was pretty wild. That's been wild.
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Speaker 1: They've been wild. Well hey, so then we get into
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Speaker 1: we're all wondering who the final three was going to
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Speaker 1: be or the final two really, I guess going into
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Speaker 1: this week, um Brendan, we really started to see Brendan
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Speaker 1: at a level we haven't seen him yt this season, right,
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Speaker 1: like this is starting to get serious. He's starting to
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Speaker 1: get anxious and nervous. We know that that's kind of looming.
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Speaker 1: This week it really comes to like the whole remember
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Speaker 1: we had the whole lie detector test, like that was
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Speaker 1: coming through then he wasn't really sure if he was
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Speaker 1: ready for the families to meet. Understandable, like he's the
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Speaker 1: one that's been married. He definitely doesn't want to do
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Speaker 1: you know, so that but he doesn't want to get
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Speaker 1: divorced ever again of course or like Russian anything, everything
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Speaker 1: makes sense. But yes, his anxiety has been present now.
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Speaker 1: His anxiety like it was so written all over his
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Speaker 1: face during the beginning of this date during the sit
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Speaker 1: down with Neil Lane picking out rings. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: so funny. He's like there's an ice bath date, and
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Speaker 1: there's a body painting date, and then there's like, let's
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Speaker 1: pick out rings dates. It's like that he was you know,
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Speaker 1: that he was given this one for a reason. His
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Speaker 1: face like the guy is struggling, and she sees it.
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Speaker 1: Now what is just unbelievably mind boggling to me, and
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Speaker 1: is when they sit down, he goes through he goes
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Speaker 1: his entire speel that you know, like he can't do this.
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Speaker 1: It's just too fast. It's not just too fast, but
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Speaker 1: like he has discovered through this process that he himself
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Speaker 1: is not ready and whole enough to be in a relationship.
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Speaker 1: He still has to work on himself. So he's gonna
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Speaker 1: he's gonna drop out, right. But then she says, this
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Speaker 1: is where the mind buggle comes in. I thought it
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Speaker 1: was gonna be Brendan. I thought I was choosing Brendan.
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Speaker 1: What literally, yesterday you so excitedly told Zack that you
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Speaker 1: were in love with him. So where does this Brendan
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Speaker 1: thing come out of come come out, comes out of
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Speaker 1: the blue. You're right, You're you're right. Yeah, that's a
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Speaker 1: huge moment. But the interesting the side of this, though,
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Speaker 1: Ashley is like, maybe she is in love with two people,
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Speaker 1: maybe she's in love with three of these guys, and like,
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Speaker 1: and if you go back, um and and we I
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Speaker 1: think we had an interview with I forget what interview
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Speaker 1: it was in, but you and I were talking about it.
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Speaker 1: That was going to be the danger but also the
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Speaker 1: benefit of tatious season because she allowed these guys to
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Speaker 1: be fully themselves, She asked really hard questions. They connected
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Speaker 1: on a level that we haven't seen often within the
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Speaker 1: Bachelor world. Like this ending isn't surprising to me, where
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Speaker 1: there's multiple people she's like into and that are into
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Speaker 1: her because of the level, in the depth of the
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Speaker 1: relationships that that's happened throughout the season. Totally get it.
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Speaker 1: Totally agree. However, watching the dates, just I just don't
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Speaker 1: learn that there's any comparison between the Brendan chemistry in
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Speaker 1: the Zach chemistry. Was it cut? Like did she say
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Speaker 1: earlier in the season, I thought it was gonna be
19:43
Speaker 1: Brendan and then we just took out the earlier in
19:45
Speaker 1: the season part, Like that is the only possible explanation
19:49
Speaker 1: to me, Or actually, I mean I've been in this,
19:52
Speaker 1: You've been in this like it matters what she's looking
19:55
Speaker 1: for in a partner. Maybe Brendan, like Zach is obviously
19:58
Speaker 1: she's somebody she's in love with, she's into, she's so
20:01
Speaker 1: infatuated by. But when she sits down and she has
20:04
Speaker 1: to ask herself in that moment, who is it that
20:06
Speaker 1: I can see myself marrying? Who is it that I
20:08
Speaker 1: can see myself spending a lifetime with? Who is it
20:11
Speaker 1: that I can see myself being a partner far beyond
20:13
Speaker 1: this show? Maybe Brendan had characteristics and qualities that she
20:18
Speaker 1: really admired and wanted and she couldn't get those out
20:21
Speaker 1: of her head. Now I've been there, right like you're
20:24
Speaker 1: you're confused, you're twisted, and and maybe like the connection
20:28
Speaker 1: with Zach is something, and she's like, I've never felt
20:30
Speaker 1: this way, I've never had like I am so giddy
20:33
Speaker 1: with you. However, the giddiness falls below what I feel
20:38
Speaker 1: for Brendan, which we don't know the details of that,
20:40
Speaker 1: but it sums up with Brendan has to go home
20:42
Speaker 1: and this is a big moment for him, and one
20:46
Speaker 1: that like just shows I mean, I'm a big fan
20:48
Speaker 1: of Brendan, I have I haven't held that in secret him,
20:52
Speaker 1: but like the fact that he can now say, hey,
20:55
Speaker 1: I'm not ready for this. I'm not there like Tasha,
20:58
Speaker 1: You're great. You can tell he thinks she's eight, but like,
21:00
Speaker 1: I'm just not personally in a place where I can
21:02
Speaker 1: make this commitment to you. And he says it, like,
21:06
Speaker 1: especially in this environment, we cannot overlook how hard it
21:09
Speaker 1: is to admit that when everything around you is pressuring love,
21:14
Speaker 1: love is in the air, there's an engagement looming, You've
21:17
Speaker 1: gone through this for weeks, You've been through it with
21:19
Speaker 1: this person, like an admirable moment for Brendan to admit
21:24
Speaker 1: that at this point in time, and I found it
21:28
Speaker 1: something that even made me like him more, even though
21:30
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna be a Tati in the end. Yeah,
21:32
Speaker 1: I know me too. It's good, Potasia. I mean, it's
21:35
Speaker 1: good that she doesn't have to stand You know what
21:37
Speaker 1: if she did choose him, can you imagine that ending
21:40
Speaker 1: she stands there and she asks him and he goes,
21:42
Speaker 1: I'm not ready at the altar like that would be awful,
21:46
Speaker 1: or even they do get engaged or decided to stay
21:49
Speaker 1: together or be together, and then like a month later
21:52
Speaker 1: he realizes that, like you go through that tiger process
21:56
Speaker 1: and the guy you pick. That would be like one
21:59
Speaker 1: of those cases where she probably go back and revisit
22:01
Speaker 1: a relationship with one of the guys that she let go.
22:14
Speaker 1: Let's talk about how awkward it was that they repeated
22:17
Speaker 1: the situation that they did with Peter last year and
22:20
Speaker 1: the guys were like all sharing a room and they
22:22
Speaker 1: saw each other in between overnight days. Yeah, well it's
22:28
Speaker 1: not a good idea. We've seen two season in a row.
22:30
Speaker 1: Like it's a bad idea. It's a bad idea for
22:34
Speaker 1: the guys, but I guess for the audience, it's like
22:37
Speaker 1: really fun to see how awkward. I don't love it.
22:41
Speaker 1: It's not fun for me at this point in time.
22:43
Speaker 1: Like I watched the show to be entertained, to laugh,
22:47
Speaker 1: to laugh with the contestants at some level, make fun
22:50
Speaker 1: of the contestants, and then to like really start to
22:54
Speaker 1: like care about these relationships. I don't love this move
22:58
Speaker 1: because it does get awkward and it's just so unhealthy,
23:01
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing healthy about it. I know it's so awkward.
23:05
Speaker 1: It's kind of good TV, but it is unhealthy. It
23:08
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't feel it just doesn't feel pure. No,
23:13
Speaker 1: I mean it's sad because, like you have guys that
23:16
Speaker 1: are really laying their hearts in the line. They just
23:18
Speaker 1: had an amazing evening with Tasia. They did whatever they
23:20
Speaker 1: did in the fantasy suite. Like I'm really against even
23:24
Speaker 1: wondering like what physical level they went to, but they,
23:28
Speaker 1: no matter what, had a good evening with her. They've
23:31
Speaker 1: invested even more of their hearts into this. Girls and
23:34
Speaker 1: guys we saw with Peter Susan as you said, and
23:36
Speaker 1: then and then they have to watch other guys come
23:40
Speaker 1: back in with a smile on their face or like
23:42
Speaker 1: you know whatever, and it's just crushing, Like can you
23:45
Speaker 1: imagine like that hurts. Yeah, it's bad. Yeah, it's really bad. Okay,
23:51
Speaker 1: Well with that aside, let's go to the part where
23:54
Speaker 1: Ben knocks on our door. Did you know what was
23:58
Speaker 1: gonna be Ben? Like I thought, I thought, this is
24:01
Speaker 1: this has Ben here, it comes, here, it comes. And
24:03
Speaker 1: then right as she's walking to the door, I came
24:05
Speaker 1: up with a whole bunch of other scenarios. I was like,
24:07
Speaker 1: they're gonna totally fake us out and it's gonna be
24:09
Speaker 1: like Joejo again, or um, it's gonna be her ex
24:14
Speaker 1: husband because there was those it's not been going back.
24:18
Speaker 1: It's her ex husband, because she says, uh, like, I
24:22
Speaker 1: couldn't be more surprised. I was, who was there? Right? Like?
24:25
Speaker 1: She was just stunned. I'm like, Ben doesn't stunned with me.
24:28
Speaker 1: Ben seems very obvious, but I guess. Ben hung around
24:31
Speaker 1: the resort, continued to you know, stay in the quarantine bubble,
24:35
Speaker 1: and it came to Tasia and finally said the words
24:38
Speaker 1: that he couldn't say last week. I love you, I'm
24:41
Speaker 1: falling in love with you or I'm falling fallen in
24:44
Speaker 1: love with you or something like that. And now she's
24:47
Speaker 1: very confused at what to do it. See, this is
24:51
Speaker 1: this is this is to me, it's obvious what she's
24:53
Speaker 1: gonna do, and it's probably what I would have done too.
24:57
Speaker 1: But first, Ben, what do you gonna do? Because I
25:00
Speaker 1: feel like I'm going to be so right in this
25:02
Speaker 1: that this is like a spoiler. Yeah, you know, you're right.
25:06
Speaker 1: You said that you you broke it down well, And
25:08
Speaker 1: just to reiterate, I thought it was gonna be her
25:10
Speaker 1: ex husband. I thought for sure that was gonna be
25:13
Speaker 1: a twist here at the end. We've been rumored to
25:15
Speaker 1: it all season. I thought it was going to be
25:17
Speaker 1: incredibly inappropriate, really awkward for everybody that wasn't been I
25:21
Speaker 1: was not thrilled with it. Well, Ben shows up, which
25:24
Speaker 1: been showing up now to me looking back at it
25:27
Speaker 1: is probably one of the least surprising things with this season.
25:29
Speaker 1: It's even less surprising to me than Bennett showing up.
25:32
Speaker 1: Like Ben left in this weird way where it felt
25:36
Speaker 1: like there was so much left unsaid. It felt like
25:39
Speaker 1: it was a very anti climatic exit where it's like, hey,
25:42
Speaker 1: if you really had this song of feelings for him,
25:44
Speaker 1: and if you had that sort of feelings for her,
25:46
Speaker 1: this exit feels like it's falling short, like there's still
25:49
Speaker 1: so much yet to be done here, and so he
25:52
Speaker 1: shows up. I'm not shocked now, unlike you, Ashley, I
25:57
Speaker 1: have no clue what happens next. Obviously I can assume
26:01
Speaker 1: as I could assume he comes back in. It adds
26:05
Speaker 1: a little drama to the season, but he's ultimately like
26:09
Speaker 1: still let go. That's my assumption, and that she still
26:13
Speaker 1: was Zach in the end. That's my thought. Okay, so
26:16
Speaker 1: we're different. I think that with Brendan gone, she thinks, Okay,
26:25
Speaker 1: I got a limited down to two. I know zax
26:28
Speaker 1: Iss Shewing, but I don't think I have it with
26:31
Speaker 1: Ivan because I thought it was going to come down
26:35
Speaker 1: to Brendan and Zach. And now that Brendan's on here
26:38
Speaker 1: to fill in that spot, I'm gonna let Ivan go
26:42
Speaker 1: because it's wrong with me to keep him around when
26:44
Speaker 1: I just know it's not him, And I'm going to
26:47
Speaker 1: bring in Brent and Ben because maybe he's maybe he's
26:51
Speaker 1: not number two in my heart, or maybe there's not
26:54
Speaker 1: um a comparison to Zach, or maybe there is a
26:57
Speaker 1: comparison to Zach. But at least I can explore this
27:00
Speaker 1: a little bit more before making making my final decision.
27:04
Speaker 1: And that way, I know at the end of this,
27:06
Speaker 1: I've exhausted all possible options, and I do think that
27:10
Speaker 1: next well tomorrow, I think tomorrow or today whenever you're
27:14
Speaker 1: listening to this. The guy that Tassia's dad is going
27:19
Speaker 1: to be worried about is going to be a bett
27:23
Speaker 1: because he already left and she already had so many
27:25
Speaker 1: issues with him. That's a good point. Yeah, that's the
27:28
Speaker 1: one that Tastia's dad sits down and says, hey, you're
27:30
Speaker 1: making a really bad decision. Like, this is not okay,
27:34
Speaker 1: this guy isn't. Really that's a good point. I never
27:37
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't. I knew that's a possibility, but
27:39
Speaker 1: you just laid it out there and probably how it's
27:42
Speaker 1: gonna play out, right, It just seems like that at
27:44
Speaker 1: this point. Um. Well, luckily we don't have a lot
27:47
Speaker 1: of days to wait, which I'm glad because I don't
27:49
Speaker 1: want to wait any longer. We only have about twenty
27:51
Speaker 1: four hours uh to wait for this next episode, the
27:55
Speaker 1: dramatic finale we see ben Zack and Ivan. This will
27:59
Speaker 1: be aired on two day, right, So I don't know
28:01
Speaker 1: when you're listening to this, either really late at night
28:04
Speaker 1: or whatever, but the finale will happen. Um now, Actually,
28:10
Speaker 1: to kind of close out this episode, talk about what's
28:11
Speaker 1: up for the future at this point, it has a
28:15
Speaker 1: been announced, but we're assuming there is no after the
28:17
Speaker 1: final rows, right, Like this finale will be in How
28:21
Speaker 1: weird is that? So we have a little inside knowledge here,
28:24
Speaker 1: talk to some of our talk to some of our people, okay,
28:28
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, well, we're definitely have to
28:30
Speaker 1: see an interview with her and whoever she picks, right, Like,
28:32
Speaker 1: even if it's a zoom thing. I don't care if
28:34
Speaker 1: it were zooming from Chris Harrison's house and we're zooming
28:37
Speaker 1: from Tatia's house, Like I gotta see her with this guy.
28:40
Speaker 1: We gotta see them so many months later together on
28:43
Speaker 1: a couch. Apparently we're not getting that, and that makes
28:47
Speaker 1: me have all sorts of questions is she single? Now?
28:51
Speaker 1: That's where I'm wondering, is what does this mean if
28:54
Speaker 1: they're not highlighting this couple, which they do every year
28:57
Speaker 1: in dramatic ways, right like this year, there's obviously not
28:59
Speaker 1: gonna be the big press and media tour like there
29:02
Speaker 1: usually is, where it's like four days of interviews back
29:05
Speaker 1: to back to back in New York and l A. Like,
29:07
Speaker 1: if we don't have that, and if that's not even
29:10
Speaker 1: being planned, what does that mean for where they're at now?
29:14
Speaker 1: That's what's weird to me. Not a good sign. I
29:17
Speaker 1: don't think it's a good sign. And I'm maybe we're
29:19
Speaker 1: reading too far into it. Maybe it isn't that big
29:21
Speaker 1: a deal, but I want to see this couple, Like
29:25
Speaker 1: I watched this to celebrate this couple. But then I guess,
29:28
Speaker 1: like you'd think that they would totally do some sort
29:32
Speaker 1: of zoom after the final rows thing if they were
29:34
Speaker 1: broken up, because that's even more dramatic. Yeah, put them
29:37
Speaker 1: on the same zoom call. Nothing could be I mean,
29:40
Speaker 1: zoom gives me anxiety the way it is we're alone
29:42
Speaker 1: doing it with an X. Well, hey, we we'll be
29:45
Speaker 1: back this week with the breakdown of the finale. We'll
29:47
Speaker 1: talk about all these things once again. Um, Ashley, let's
29:50
Speaker 1: take a break here. When we come back, we have
29:52
Speaker 1: Bachelor headlines to break down. They're gonna be fantastic, they're
29:54
Speaker 1: gonna be great and uh and then hey, I'm gonna
29:57
Speaker 1: be seeing you in just a few hours right back
29:59
Speaker 1: here on our zoom uh for a second episode of
30:03
Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast this week, which is fantastic. But yeah, hey,
30:06
Speaker 1: let's take a break. We come back. We'll break down
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Speaker 1: let's get into these headlines. Uh, there are three that
32:01
Speaker 1: I really want to cover today and we can do
32:03
Speaker 1: some more tomorrow. Let's start with the obvious one. Drum
32:07
Speaker 1: roll ben right. Bachelor's are lindyke Jr. And Lauren Burnham
32:14
Speaker 1: reveals their pregnant with baby number two. Now here's the thing,
32:18
Speaker 1: not just baby number two, baby number two and three. Girl. Yeah,
32:22
Speaker 1: I was gonna say this headline has now changed. It's
32:25
Speaker 1: hot off the press. I mean, this is crazy. They
32:28
Speaker 1: are having twins now, if you remember, right, Uh, just
32:32
Speaker 1: a few short months ago, are in Lauren were public
32:35
Speaker 1: and discussed that they had a miscarriage. And so this
32:38
Speaker 1: is not only something that they're celebrating, but there's something
32:41
Speaker 1: that there's like this added gratefulness for because they're now
32:45
Speaker 1: being blessed with two children. Yep. They we don't know
32:50
Speaker 1: the sex yet, but Lauren has said that she's been
32:54
Speaker 1: crying on and off for the past three months. She's
32:58
Speaker 1: so grateful. There was in the picture that the post
33:02
Speaker 1: on Instagram today of the twins us a sonogram showing
33:06
Speaker 1: the baby number one the baby number two. So we're
33:09
Speaker 1: really really happy for them. I'm going to just make
33:13
Speaker 1: a wager. I think they're twin girls. I think that
33:15
Speaker 1: they're going to have a family with three girls. She
33:18
Speaker 1: seems like a girl dad to me, a girl dad. Well, hey,
33:21
Speaker 1: we'll pump for them, celebrating them. I still remember very
33:25
Speaker 1: first and depth was with Ari and Lauren, and it
33:28
Speaker 1: was at that point in time that afterwards they didn't
33:31
Speaker 1: get to say on the podcast, even though we did
33:33
Speaker 1: a later episode or later recording, but that they were
33:36
Speaker 1: pregnant with their very first So I feel like you
33:39
Speaker 1: and I are just like super involved in their relationship
33:42
Speaker 1: a better long since the beginning. I'm really happy for
33:44
Speaker 1: their for this couple, and congratulations that to with then
33:48
Speaker 1: on being pregnant with twins. Now, actually, this next headline
33:52
Speaker 1: is one that I need your insight into. My God,
33:54
Speaker 1: everybody's been buzzing, buzzing, and and you know she meant
33:58
Speaker 1: to do this, and hey, good for her, Like this
34:00
Speaker 1: is a very like good way to get some buzz.
34:03
Speaker 1: And I think it's fair and it's funny and it's
34:06
Speaker 1: it's keeping me intrigued. But I don't know where this
34:09
Speaker 1: rumor came from, and I need you to tell me. So.
34:11
Speaker 1: Andy Dorfman denies bachelorette Bennett Jordan's is her mystery man
34:16
Speaker 1: while vacationing in Cabo This according to US Weekly, What
34:19
Speaker 1: is this all about? Okay, so last week Andy posted
34:23
Speaker 1: a picture of herself bikini clad and in between the
34:27
Speaker 1: legs of a man. Okay, so it was from the
34:30
Speaker 1: angle of the guy taking the picture and his legs
34:32
Speaker 1: were in there. I'm sure you guys have seen it.
34:35
Speaker 1: Then she deletes the picture and zooms more into herself,
34:39
Speaker 1: so the legs are cropped out. But like of course,
34:42
Speaker 1: there were screenshots. And I don't know if Andy thought
34:46
Speaker 1: she was going to get away with it or is
34:47
Speaker 1: this like a really good way to you know, create
34:51
Speaker 1: a buzz, to use the word again. So when she
34:54
Speaker 1: when she posted the picture again, she she acknowledges that
34:58
Speaker 1: she deleted the other one and that she cropped this
35:00
Speaker 1: because she goes now, I look topless, l O L
35:03
Speaker 1: hashtag out of the office, hashtag cropped all right, all right,
35:10
Speaker 1: So immediately fans start speculating who the mystery man is
35:15
Speaker 1: all the message boards, which I totally creeved on. We're
35:19
Speaker 1: comparing legs and feet two possible lovers. Okay, Bennett was
35:26
Speaker 1: one of the guys that was up there. People were
35:29
Speaker 1: comparing the feet. Nick was up there. Michael Garafola was
35:35
Speaker 1: a big, a big suspect here. But I think all
35:40
Speaker 1: those guys are rolled out in the it seems like
35:43
Speaker 1: the most confirmed suspect. It seems to be an ex
35:47
Speaker 1: boyfriend of hers. Not not a I don't know if
35:50
Speaker 1: he's a famous one. He may be an athlete, but
35:53
Speaker 1: it's not a bachelor lum. But we have to assume.
35:56
Speaker 1: I mean, Andy Dorfman is typically I want to say,
35:59
Speaker 1: private about her relationships. Haus She she wrote some books
36:01
Speaker 1: on this, but she doesn't come out very often about
36:04
Speaker 1: dating or who she's dating and that kind of thing.
36:06
Speaker 1: She is. She is a little bit close to the the
36:08
Speaker 1: chess when it comes to dating. And so for her
36:13
Speaker 1: to post this picture knowing that like stuff was gonna
36:16
Speaker 1: start swirling, does she I would assume she's in a
36:19
Speaker 1: place where she feels this relationship is in a pretty
36:21
Speaker 1: good place, like This isn't like a new fling. I
36:24
Speaker 1: would assume so, because I don't think she's done this
36:28
Speaker 1: since she broke up with Josh Man. Has she been
36:32
Speaker 1: public with anyone since then? I don't. I can't picture.
36:36
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think so. I don't think on
36:38
Speaker 1: her own Instagram. So this is a big deal. Well,
36:40
Speaker 1: we're going to continue to watch the story, update you
36:42
Speaker 1: as we go. Who knows who knows who it is?
36:45
Speaker 1: The next story is one, Actually, I think you're gonna
36:47
Speaker 1: be able to talk about pretty easily because it's about you.
36:50
Speaker 1: The headline reads, Bachelor Paradise is Ashley and Eddie and
36:53
Speaker 1: Jared Hayman rewatch their cringe e first kiss. This according
36:56
Speaker 1: to People magazine. Stop now, this is a headline. That's ridiculous.
37:02
Speaker 1: I can't believe people were an article about that. I
37:04
Speaker 1: had no idea until I'm looking at it right now.
37:07
Speaker 1: What's what's this about? Ashley? That's what we did. Uh.
37:10
Speaker 1: We watched our first kiss. We videotaped it. Thought i'd
37:13
Speaker 1: be some funny Instagram content, and man, that scene gets
37:18
Speaker 1: cringing and cringeer at time. I'm telling you, when I
37:20
Speaker 1: first watched it back, I was like Oh my god,
37:22
Speaker 1: why did I bring up Caitlin? Oh my gosh, why
37:25
Speaker 1: did I say oh okay as he leaned in. But
37:28
Speaker 1: now it's like I can't believe myself. I can't believe
37:32
Speaker 1: no longer and I am at least a kiss, like
37:34
Speaker 1: the physical kiss itself isn't awkward, and that's what I
37:37
Speaker 1: was proud of. That's one of my favorite things about you.
37:40
Speaker 1: I love many things about you, and obviously love Jared,
37:42
Speaker 1: but one of my favorite things about you is that
37:44
Speaker 1: you fully admit your awkwardness. I mean, you've gotten less
37:48
Speaker 1: awkward I feel like over the last like four years
37:51
Speaker 1: or so, but like when you're in there like trying
37:53
Speaker 1: to figure out what in the world your dating life
37:55
Speaker 1: was going to look like, there are a lot of
37:57
Speaker 1: awkward stories, moments, interactions, especially when we got to watch
38:01
Speaker 1: you on these shows, and like that's what just makes
38:04
Speaker 1: people love you even more because you you did bring
38:06
Speaker 1: up an ex girlfriend like during this first kiss, Like
38:09
Speaker 1: that's brutal, Ashley, Like you can't do that, horrifect what
38:13
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like absolutely no filter. Oh I don't know,
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Speaker 1: and like I didn't I thought I was being funny
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Speaker 1: at the time. No, Now watching it back, I can
38:26
Speaker 1: tell how affected Jared was by it because you know,
38:28
Speaker 1: those those feelings were still lingering. What was like thinking, well,
38:32
Speaker 1: and like, if you know Jared at all, Jared is
38:35
Speaker 1: a very loyal man. Uh and he is I mean
38:41
Speaker 1: you can phrases better than I can, but he is
38:43
Speaker 1: a little bit jealous, like he's jealous for you, Like
38:47
Speaker 1: he doesn't love he doesn't love the conversations about his exes.
38:52
Speaker 1: He doesn't love you talking about you know, your ex
38:54
Speaker 1: is like so now you know if this man is
38:57
Speaker 1: sitting there going, hey, I really like this girl and
38:59
Speaker 1: like I want to here, and then you bring up
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Speaker 1: the one thing that he's still sensitive of today, like
39:03
Speaker 1: I'm sure that affected him pretty deeply. Well, you know
39:06
Speaker 1: what's funny is Jared also loves like really like sexy
39:08
Speaker 1: romantic moments. During those those moments of intimacy, he does
39:17
Speaker 1: not like um like jokes are awkwardness because like he
39:23
Speaker 1: gets into like real like movie star mode, and you
39:27
Speaker 1: can tell like he just wants to be like really
39:28
Speaker 1: romantic in the moment. He doesn't really crave any like
39:32
Speaker 1: awkward giggles that can be endearing, but no, no, no,
39:35
Speaker 1: like he's not about those moments being endearing, like they
39:38
Speaker 1: should just be sexy, and I totally wiped out that
39:42
Speaker 1: that's sexy vibe by saying basically everything that I said
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Speaker 1: in that moment afterward. So good, well, hey, it's fun
39:49
Speaker 1: to watch back. I'm glad you guys just did. Next
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Speaker 1: headline is one actually that I want you to break
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Speaker 1: down for us. Rachel Lindsay. This is the headline. It reads,
39:57
Speaker 1: Rachel Lindsay doesn't want Ben Smith to be the next
39:59
Speaker 1: BA and the reason is in this according to Refinery. Okay,
40:05
Speaker 1: so I sort of kind of agree with her. Okay,
40:08
Speaker 1: is that I don't know. I read her quotes and
40:11
Speaker 1: then I may just say did though she goes, Ben
40:15
Speaker 1: did just enough to stay by. He reminds me of
40:18
Speaker 1: Peter Krause. He reminds me of him in the way
40:21
Speaker 1: that he gives you just enough. But if you really
40:24
Speaker 1: break it down to what he's saying, it doesn't match up.
40:27
Speaker 1: So it's like, I don't believe you, like I'm into you,
40:30
Speaker 1: I like you, I feel it, but there's something that
40:32
Speaker 1: I can't explain. It's not adding up here. Okay, Yeah,
40:34
Speaker 1: so I do I agree with her. That's I just
40:36
Speaker 1: felt like something was missing with Ben. There was always
40:39
Speaker 1: something lingering where I was like, I need to find
40:42
Speaker 1: the last piece of the puzzle. But I can't find
40:45
Speaker 1: the last piece of the puzzle. Where is it? Is
40:47
Speaker 1: it under the table, is it in the couch? I
40:51
Speaker 1: don't know. I can't find it. She also continues to
40:54
Speaker 1: say Ben one thousand percent wants to be the Bachelor.
40:58
Speaker 1: I beg producers, lease, don't do it. We've been here
41:02
Speaker 1: before with the person who is so desperate to be
41:05
Speaker 1: the lead. It never works out. I don't know who's
41:08
Speaker 1: you're referring to. There is you're referring to Peter. I
41:11
Speaker 1: still think Peter wil Be a fantastic bachelor, okay. Um.
41:14
Speaker 1: Moving on continuing the quote, she says, when they wanted
41:18
Speaker 1: so badly, when they've been planning it, calculating, making certain
41:21
Speaker 1: moves to get that point, then you give it to
41:25
Speaker 1: them and it always messes up. There are so many
41:27
Speaker 1: great men from Clarentatious season. Don't pick him. I don't
41:31
Speaker 1: want to see it. Okay, So that sounds like she's
41:33
Speaker 1: referring to Coton. Yeah, I was gonna say, because I
41:37
Speaker 1: don't think she's been made it a secret that she
41:39
Speaker 1: thought that, you know, Colton planning, trying doing what he
41:43
Speaker 1: could to become the Bachelor was wrong, and I don't
41:46
Speaker 1: think you and I would disagree with that. I don't
41:47
Speaker 1: think anybody going out to going on this show to
41:50
Speaker 1: pursue being the Bachelor is ever a good decision for
41:52
Speaker 1: anybody involved. She obviously those getting the same vibes about Ben,
41:57
Speaker 1: which has been Bachelination's but his biggest teak of him.
42:00
Speaker 1: You know, they've they've invested themselves into his story. He's
42:05
Speaker 1: been vulnerable about his story, what he's been through, what
42:08
Speaker 1: he's overcome. However, there's also these moments like we saw
42:12
Speaker 1: when he left, where he wants to say the right thing,
42:15
Speaker 1: and he only wants to say the right thing, and
42:17
Speaker 1: then when he can't say it because it's not exactly
42:20
Speaker 1: like where he's at, for example, when he couldn't say
42:23
Speaker 1: I love you, then we see a different side where
42:26
Speaker 1: things don't add up because he can sit there the
42:28
Speaker 1: whole season and talk about how into this he is,
42:31
Speaker 1: how perfect this whole thing is. And then when the
42:33
Speaker 1: when he actually has to start being real, and this
42:36
Speaker 1: actually has long term consequences that are really good. I think,
42:40
Speaker 1: like being in a relationship, then he kind of froze.
42:43
Speaker 1: And so I don't disagree with Rachel Um however, I do.
42:47
Speaker 1: I will say that my opinion of this moment and
42:52
Speaker 1: probably hers as well, could completely change after the finaley,
42:55
Speaker 1: Like if he comes back to say, hey, if he
42:59
Speaker 1: comes back have to say, you know what, I'm in
43:02
Speaker 1: this for you, I love you, I want to be
43:04
Speaker 1: here for you. Well, then like the whole hey he's
43:07
Speaker 1: doing this to be the Bachelor thing, I think would
43:09
Speaker 1: probably be defeated. I think we'd have to look past it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
43:12
Speaker 1: because I think we have to actually have to look
43:15
Speaker 1: past it right now. Okay, you know I because it's
43:18
Speaker 1: too close to the finale. It seems like he wants
43:21
Speaker 1: to be with Tatian more than he wants to be
43:22
Speaker 1: the Bachelor at this point. Yeah. And I and here
43:25
Speaker 1: I agree with when I say that I agree with her,
43:27
Speaker 1: I agree with her like with her senses about Ben.
43:30
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree that he's like he's trying to
43:34
Speaker 1: be the Bachelor. I don't you know with those quotes,
43:37
Speaker 1: I'm like a little there, a little there. Well, and
43:39
Speaker 1: we also have to understand this actually something we haven't
43:42
Speaker 1: brought up, which is the dynamic that it really hasn't
43:44
Speaker 1: ever been done before, Like, these guys are going to
43:47
Speaker 1: be the next Bachelor. Matt James is the next Bachelor.
43:50
Speaker 1: So like, if they're doing this to be the next Bachelor,
43:53
Speaker 1: they went into this knowing that Matt James has already
43:55
Speaker 1: been chosen. Like, yes, they could go back and pull
43:58
Speaker 1: from a past season that's happened. It's not incredibly common,
44:02
Speaker 1: but it's happened. It's not like the typical way that
44:05
Speaker 1: this goes. But we're gonna have a whole new group
44:07
Speaker 1: of men and just you know, a year on a
44:11
Speaker 1: Bachelorette season, and if one of those dudes really stands
44:13
Speaker 1: out to us, he'll be the next Bachelor because right now,
44:16
Speaker 1: Matt James season is already done. Yeah, I think they're
44:19
Speaker 1: great guys in this season, but I probably'll probably choose
44:23
Speaker 1: somebody fresher from whoever the next Bachelorrette is. And it's
44:25
Speaker 1: weird that that Bachelorrette season is going to start filming
44:28
Speaker 1: in March. It is wild so well, um final headline
44:33
Speaker 1: is one that I think Bachelor Nation is just pumped for.
44:36
Speaker 1: And if you don't know this man, he was just
44:38
Speaker 1: before the social media craze, so like he didn't get
44:41
Speaker 1: the following that a lot of people thought he'd deserved. Um,
44:46
Speaker 1: but bachel Nations Marquelle Martin is engaged to carry Kaisner.
44:51
Speaker 1: This is the biggest blessing in my life that, according
44:54
Speaker 1: to Marquelle, like Marquet was a fan favorite, people loved him.
44:57
Speaker 1: He was on Andy Dorfman's season. Um, super happy moment.
45:02
Speaker 1: The pictures are incredible. If you haven't seen the Cookie Man,
45:04
Speaker 1: if you guys remember he loved cookies and he ate
45:07
Speaker 1: cookies with with with Andy a lot. Yeah, it was
45:11
Speaker 1: a big deal. And so here's the thing that we
45:13
Speaker 1: can do right because he was before the Bachelor Nation
45:16
Speaker 1: really had a huge following on social media. If you're
45:19
Speaker 1: out there listening, go to Mark hil Martin's pit page
45:21
Speaker 1: and give him some love, like showing that he's still
45:25
Speaker 1: a part of this. He's a great dude. People love him.
45:27
Speaker 1: They loved him on the show, they love him after
45:29
Speaker 1: the show. So hey, he's engaged. We're celebrating it here
45:31
Speaker 1: at the Almost Famous podcast. Well, Ashley, as we said,
45:35
Speaker 1: we'll be back in just a few short hours talking
45:38
Speaker 1: again about the finale of this season. It's gonna be
45:41
Speaker 1: a finale that I'm super pumped for. I really am excited.
45:44
Speaker 1: I'll be tuning in with my popcorn, probably a glass
45:47
Speaker 1: of bourbon. I do have to hit the road though. Here.
45:50
Speaker 1: Listen to this. UM, I have a charity event tonight.
45:53
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it a charity event because that just
45:54
Speaker 1: makes me feel a little bit better about myself. But
45:56
Speaker 1: here's the truth of it. UM, I am going to
46:00
Speaker 1: play golf in a COVID friendly golf simulator, so it's
46:04
Speaker 1: like a socially distant charity event against Jake Owen, Darius Rucker,
46:09
Speaker 1: and Shane Mooney. Right now. So I've got a cool,
46:13
Speaker 1: so cool, so fun. All right, we'll have a great time.
46:17
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you tomorrow. Can't wait until then. I've
46:20
Speaker 1: been Ashley and I've been Ben. We'll talk to you later.
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