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Steve Goodin - Charter Committee Candidate · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: It's seven oh six.
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  Speaker 2: It is Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Stating the obvious, but I like to remind people put
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  Speaker 1: a smile on your face just for the fact that
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  Speaker 1: it's Friday. Another reason to put a smile on your face.
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  Speaker 1: We do have some great options as we fast approach
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  Speaker 1: the November elections. Since I City Council, we have a
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  Speaker 1: multitude of candidates to choose from. Some I think are
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  Speaker 1: worth voting for, and some or others. Some have a
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  Speaker 1: demonstrable record of success and have shown the logic and
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  Speaker 1: reason and maybe some really great ideas for the city,
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  Speaker 1: oftentimes rejected by the overwhelming presence of one hundred percent
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  Speaker 1: Democrats on council. How about going with the charter right?
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  Speaker 1: How about voting for Steve good and from the law
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  Speaker 1: firm of Porter Right. You need a good lawyer, go
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  Speaker 1: great candidate and win the election, go to vote Good
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  Speaker 1: and good I n vote Gooden dot com. Welcome back,
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  Speaker 1: Steve Good And it's always a pleasure talking with you.
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  Speaker 2: Bright. I think you could kind words. Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: It's there. They come from the heart, my friend, and
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  Speaker 1: I just just doubling back on all the times you've
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  Speaker 1: been on the program to talk about some the pending
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  Speaker 1: legal cases that have drawing national attention or even local attention.
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  Speaker 1: You do such a wonderful job boiling it down to
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  Speaker 1: you know, easily understandable principles and facts, but you stay
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  Speaker 1: right on top of it. And I know you do
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  Speaker 1: a great job representing your client. So I just thanks
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  Speaker 1: for all the time you spell with my listeners and me,
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  Speaker 1: helping us unpack these things over the years, and let
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  Speaker 1: us try to unpack what's going on in downtown Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 1: See running for council early verting's open, get in touch
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  Speaker 1: and vote for Steve. So it sounds to me like
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  Speaker 1: Aft Purvol is now admitting we have a problem with
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  Speaker 1: crime in downtown Cincinnati, because forever he was saying no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: you just you don't believe your own eyes. You're just
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  Speaker 1: you have this wrong perception. Crimes actually down, and yet
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  Speaker 1: every morning like today, we wake up another person murdered
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  Speaker 1: in downtown since night two o'clock this morning, and he
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  Speaker 1: has now released some updated crime fightings quote unquote solutions.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing the quote things with my fingers, including accepting
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  Speaker 1: four days of Ohio State Patrol in the City of Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 1: as opposed to an entire month's worth, which is what
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  Speaker 1: the governor offered him, among other things. Andre Ewing's on
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  Speaker 1: yesterday saying, wait a second, why wouldn't you just take
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  Speaker 1: everything the state has to offer, will supplement the depleted ranks,
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  Speaker 1: and let's see if that works. So by even accepting
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  Speaker 1: something from the state, I believe he's acknowledging them as
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  Speaker 1: a crime problem and pivoting over. There was rumors that
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  Speaker 1: he was getting ready to fire police Chief Teresa Thiji.
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  Speaker 1: I guess because of crime. How do you unpackage this part?
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  Speaker 1: Steve Gooden.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, well, the headline here is really simple,
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  Speaker 2: which is the city's you know, four year experiment in
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  Speaker 2: not really enforcing crime, our basic laws downtown is a failure.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, both the mayor and and the
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  Speaker 2: chief have been saying that their focus has been on
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  Speaker 2: compliant and not enforcement. And I didn't know what in
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  Speaker 2: the world that meant, but you know, what it basically
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  Speaker 2: has boiled down to is whether it's open air pot smoking, loitering, fighting,
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  Speaker 2: breaking the curfew which has always been in existence for
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  Speaker 2: our youth, or just other you know, the terrible anti
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  Speaker 2: social behaviors, public urination, and the homeless population that it's
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  Speaker 2: been downtown graffiti, you name it. They're not really arresting anyone.
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  Speaker 2: The directives to the police from the chief, through the
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  Speaker 2: mayor and the city manager and bought into my council
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  Speaker 2: was we're just going to tell people to move on.
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  Speaker 2: We might give them a warning, we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: enforce because we don't want bad crime stats downtown. And
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  Speaker 2: what has happened over four years is there is this
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  Speaker 2: sense of lawlessness which has now attracted real violence. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, some people call this the broken windows theory.
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  Speaker 2: When you let the little things go over time, they
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  Speaker 2: become big things. And that is what has happened right
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  Speaker 2: in the heart of downtown, in and over the Rhine
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  Speaker 2: where through three CDC the city and its partners of
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  Speaker 2: the investment over three billion dollars in rehabbing old properties
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  Speaker 2: and bringing businesses in and have lured all this private
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  Speaker 2: investment in and now it is all in danger because
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  Speaker 2: of this bizarre politically correct in non enforcement quote quote
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  Speaker 2: compliance over enforcement theory where they have a large homeless
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  Speaker 2: population move in. Drugs are back, violence is back. The
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  Speaker 2: downtown reeks and pot smoke during the middle of the
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  Speaker 2: workday and people don't feel safe. My office barn, as
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  Speaker 2: you know, is right off this street, right by Government Square.
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  Speaker 2: Our staff is afraid to walk down the street to
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  Speaker 2: go to the subway or wherever they go for lunch.
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  Speaker 2: They're afraid to go out because there have been two
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  Speaker 2: shootings right by our office during daylight hours within the
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  Speaker 2: last five days. It is a disgraceful situation and it
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  Speaker 2: is only a matter of time before we see more
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  Speaker 2: folks pulling out of down to have someone doesn't do
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  Speaker 2: something and look at I'm all for that. I was
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  Speaker 2: very early on saying that the chief has to go.
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  Speaker 2: I think she's lost the confidence of the rank and file.
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  Speaker 2: I know the FOP and others disagree. They think she's
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  Speaker 2: being made a scapegoat, and I think that's true to
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  Speaker 2: a certain extent. But she went along with this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: She had to know better. I mean, she was an
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  Speaker 2: excellent I knew were back in the day's an excellent
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  Speaker 2: police officer. She was coming up through the ranks. You
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  Speaker 2: cannot have this weird social experiment. This is like you
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  Speaker 2: have in San Francisco or Portland, where you don't enforce
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  Speaker 2: basic laws and not see an uptick over time in
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  Speaker 2: real violent crime. And that's what's happened here. When you
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  Speaker 2: strip everything away, it's very plain they have a public
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  Speaker 2: record of this where they made a decision not to
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  Speaker 2: enforce these smaller things like in a pot, smoking, loitering, graffiti,
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  Speaker 2: public urination, and now you have all. Now you have
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  Speaker 2: murder fights, gun battles, literally, gun battles in front of
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  Speaker 2: the federal courthouse some Monday night. Two guys shooting at
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  Speaker 2: each other at five fifteen in the afternoon. It's insane.
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  Speaker 1: So, Steve Gooden, what I'm hearing is that while the
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  Speaker 1: statistics themselves may suggest crime is down, the nature of
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  Speaker 1: policing under the current administration is to not issue citations
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  Speaker 1: or otherwise arrest people, which would be reflected on the
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  Speaker 1: crime statistics book. So move along, son, you know, put
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  Speaker 1: the knife down or drop the gun and move along.
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  Speaker 1: That's not going to get reported. Is so it gives
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  Speaker 1: the appearance that crime has actually done, at least statistically,
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  Speaker 1: while the reality is everybody sees with their own eyes
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  Speaker 1: that it's not.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right, and actually, and it goes way deeper
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  Speaker 2: than that, Brian, I mean, we know and I know
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  Speaker 2: of two instances for you know, personally where I know
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  Speaker 2: people who were involved or whose property was damaged, where
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  Speaker 2: people have had their windows shot out, like particularly in
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  Speaker 2: the West End, their car windows and in one case
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  Speaker 2: the window to their home shot out, and it was
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  Speaker 2: just listed, you know, as a property crime, you know,
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  Speaker 2: instead of the gun Like you know, you have a
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  Speaker 2: gun fire in your neighborhood, that's very different than the
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  Speaker 2: kid throwing a rock through your window or something or
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  Speaker 2: you know, something that you know from you know, so
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  Speaker 2: that shows up as just like a small property in
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  Speaker 2: fraction because no one is arrested. So we know they've
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  Speaker 2: been playing games in other ways in terms of how
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  Speaker 2: they report. And that's one of the things that I
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  Speaker 2: really do kind of fault the current police command with
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  Speaker 2: is they've gone along with that. They know that it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't reflect the lived reality of what's out there the rank.
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  Speaker 2: And while police officers know that too, I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: know the city has become more violent, particularly in terms
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  Speaker 2: of gun violence, and not just downtown. The gun violence
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  Speaker 2: has popped up in numerous other neighborhoods. We know we
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  Speaker 2: have an uptick, a real strong uptick in property crimes
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  Speaker 2: in carthafs and neighborhoods like Hyde Park and Outlookout that's
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  Speaker 2: not being addressed or mentioned at all, and that's something
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  Speaker 2: that is undeniable by im statistic I know one person
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  Speaker 2: on a in Mount Lookout who actually had this car
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  Speaker 2: stolen out of his garage two weeks ago. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: you know there are professionals his attached garage. It was
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  Speaker 2: a burdenintary the god ed. He gets up and goes
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  Speaker 2: down to work in the morning, four cars have been
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  Speaker 2: broken into in a street and his car has gone
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  Speaker 2: from his own garage. And this stuff just isn't being
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  Speaker 2: talked about because it doesn't fit the narrative. They want
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  Speaker 2: to argue that in theory, crime is down overall in
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  Speaker 2: the city, but depending on where you live, it has
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  Speaker 2: become very, very dangerous. And look, it's not just about downtown.
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  Speaker 2: I think we have been too centric in terms of
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  Speaker 2: putting development dollars downtown and not investing in the neighborhoods
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  Speaker 2: in terms of development. But if we lose what they've
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  Speaker 2: built downtown, it's going to be a multi billion dollar
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  Speaker 2: tragedy and a lot of people, particularly the small business
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  Speaker 2: owners who have been allured into downtown thinking it's a
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  Speaker 2: good place to invest their life savings and open a
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  Speaker 2: restaurant or a small shop or whatever. The ones who
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  Speaker 2: are really really really gonna get hurt here, and it's
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  Speaker 2: already starting to happen. And it's an absolute tragedy, and
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  Speaker 2: it was absolutely avoidable with a little bit of foresight
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  Speaker 2: and common sense.
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  Speaker 1: And a different administration. Time for a change in administration,
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  Speaker 1: Council Steve, vote Gooden dot com. Real quick here, Steve,
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  Speaker 1: before we leave the crime component, I just want to
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  Speaker 1: make sure I'm clear on this at least as I
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  Speaker 1: perceive it. After that, pro Ball and share a long
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  Speaker 1: City Manager are the ones that decided that she would
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  Speaker 1: be chief. They selected her over the objections of the
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  Speaker 1: police department, which wanted somebody else. But that's okay, fine.
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  Speaker 1: They picked her because they're allowed to. After the passage
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  Speaker 1: of Issue five some years ago. They apparently are directing her.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned how good of a police officer police Chiefdiji was,
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  Speaker 1: and she has qualified for the job. So I presume
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  Speaker 1: she has a sound understanding of the laws and arresting
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  Speaker 1: people and what the laws are in the books and
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  Speaker 1: who's subject to arrest, but that it's not happening now,
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  Speaker 1: which means she is following the I'll characterize it as
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  Speaker 1: woke politics of pervol and share long and the current administration.
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  Speaker 1: So she's taking their directive and moving in this low
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  Speaker 1: arrest sort of you know, move along type police patrol environment,
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  Speaker 1: which now they're threatening to fire her because of crime
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  Speaker 1: in downtown Cincinnati, and they're firing her because she followed
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  Speaker 1: what they instructed her to do. That's the way I'm
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  Speaker 1: hearing it.
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  Speaker 2: Am.
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  Speaker 1: I you think I'm close.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're if anything, you're being too charitable to
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  Speaker 2: what happened. I mean, look, I mean what they're doing
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  Speaker 2: isn't just woke. I mean woke is some like goofy
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  Speaker 2: college professor fighting about pronouns. This is extraordinarily woke. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is all This is like woke stuff taken to
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  Speaker 2: a point where it's easier destructive and sort of. Yes, absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean they really have, and I know
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  Speaker 2: this from a personal conversation I had with the chief
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  Speaker 2: about eighteen months ago. Of course, she's very mad at
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  Speaker 2: me now because I've been publicly critical over so we're
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  Speaker 2: not really talking anymore. But I mean, you know, I mean, look,
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  Speaker 2: they made a conscious decision to move away from a
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  Speaker 2: lot of enforcement. I mean, the speed humps that you
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  Speaker 2: see all over the city are designed to slow drivers
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  Speaker 2: down and are blatantly designed to, as they say, lesson
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  Speaker 2: police interactions with citizens. So basically, instead of patrolling the
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  Speaker 2: streets and enforcing speeding you got these speed humps. So,
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  Speaker 2: as I say, every time you drive over one of
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  Speaker 2: these things, and they spent millions on them, I mean
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  Speaker 2: you're seeing like some defunding of the police right in
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  Speaker 2: the speed humps. It is an excuse to keep police
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  Speaker 2: staffing levels low. It is an excuse not to enforce
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  Speaker 2: our speeding laws and actually pull drivers over, which we
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  Speaker 2: know is one of the most powerful ways of getting
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  Speaker 2: guns off the street. From my time as a prosecutor,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was a very common occurrence for someone
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  Speaker 2: to pull over someone for a traffic infraction, you roll
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  Speaker 2: down the window, the person either smells of alcohol or
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  Speaker 2: marijuana or what have you, do, you have grounds to
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  Speaker 2: get them out of the car, and oh, look there's
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  Speaker 2: a gun on the front seat. And then you could
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  Speaker 2: that's one of the ways you get guns that you
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  Speaker 2: use traffic laws to actually get guns off the street.
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  Speaker 2: We don't do that anymore per her direction. And you're right. Look,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I was a prosecutor for many years.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I started that job almost twenty five years
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  Speaker 2: ago this month actually, and you know Fijis. As a
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  Speaker 2: police officer back in the in the States, I really
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  Speaker 2: did have the support of the rank and file. She
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  Speaker 2: comes from a great family of police officers. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: she was out there, you know, on the street making arrests.
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  Speaker 2: She came up through the rank. She was a police
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  Speaker 2: officer for I think thirty one years. Nobody's going to
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  Speaker 2: have anything bad to say about what she did as
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  Speaker 2: a police officer. But as a chief she went along
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  Speaker 2: with this agenda. She had participated in the really blatantly
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  Speaker 2: political vibe that they have in terms of policing there.
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  Speaker 2: She wasn't pushing back publicly. She was an apologist for
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  Speaker 2: this agenda that the mayor has, she provided political cover
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  Speaker 2: for him. And one of the things that really turned
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  Speaker 2: my stomach is she's actually got a piece of mail
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  Speaker 2: just two days ago with one of the I think
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  Speaker 2: one of the most lost city council members, this guy,
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  Speaker 2: Mark Jefferies. He's the most out there I think of
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  Speaker 2: the group because he pretends to be like a business
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  Speaker 2: guy but really is part of this woke mess. And
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  Speaker 2: she's like in the campaign literature with them in uniform,
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  Speaker 2: which is blatantly illegal. I mean, she's been playing this
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  Speaker 2: political game with the folks who are supervising her, and
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  Speaker 2: it's just wrong. And I mean, look, if you're going
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  Speaker 2: to live by the swords, you dive of the sword.
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  Speaker 2: She's become a political actor right now, and she's now
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  Speaker 2: her career is going to meet its demise on the
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  Speaker 2: lines because it's politically expedient to get rid of her.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I'm reminded of George Orwell Animal
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  Speaker 1: Farm and Boxer fought for the cause and died for
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  Speaker 1: the and ended up being, you know, sent off to
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  Speaker 1: the glue factory after serving the cause as one of
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  Speaker 1: the most loyal folks. So here she is serving the
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  Speaker 1: ft have provall woke agenda cause not doing law enforcement
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  Speaker 1: the way she understood it and used to do it.
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  Speaker 1: And then because crime is bad and because people aren't
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  Speaker 1: happy with current status law enforcement, she ends up losing
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  Speaker 1: your job. Maybe because of that. Interesting that, Steve Gooden, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Porto Wright's a place to find
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  Speaker 1: Steve Goodin for laws stuff, Vote Goodin dot com online
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  Speaker 1: to help him out with the campaign and see upright
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  Speaker 1: hand corner. Donate get involved maybe due to some door
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  Speaker 1: knock and get us a yard sign.
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  Speaker 2: Steve.
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  Speaker 1: I wish you all the best. I appreciate you willing
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  Speaker 1: this to come on the show and talk about these issues.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you'd be a welcome, welcome edition for
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  Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati as a council member.
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  Speaker 2: Again, thank you. I think they need a grumpy middle
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  Speaker 2: aged man. That's what I bring.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you very much, Appointed Moniker. Thanks Steve good
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  Speaker 1: and grumpy man. We'll have you back on again soon,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully before the election. Again stick around speaking a folks
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  Speaker 1: runner for Sincey City Council, Gary Favors returns the