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Big Pharma & Mental Health Repair With or Without Medication · Wellness Uncensored

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Speaker 1: Hey, good afternoon and welcome to another riveting episode with me, Dr.
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Speaker 1: Patty G at Wellness Uncensored. We bring you all kinds
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Speaker 1: of information, hopefully timely, hopefully inspiring, hopefully thought provoking. And
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Speaker 1: for those of you that are new to the show today,
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Speaker 1: we are in our fourth season. This show manifested as
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Speaker 1: a result of so much that went on during the pandemic.
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Speaker 1: and really wanting to be a voice so that you
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Speaker 1: can get out there and get information to help yourself,
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Speaker 1: to help make really good decisions. And to know that
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Speaker 1: the information that's out there or the information that's presented, um,
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Speaker 1: you should really take a close look and, uh, question everything, verify,
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Speaker 1: and you get to want to be the person to
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Speaker 1: make the choices for your own health and wellness. And
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Speaker 1: so a couple of things really want to talk with
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Speaker 1: you today, but, um, Just to recap the past couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks, we've had some really good guests come on
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Speaker 1: the show to help host with me. And, you know,
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Speaker 1: we had, I guess it was just about three weeks ago,
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Speaker 1: the opportunity for people to share. They went to the Senate.
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Speaker 1: They shared their stories of things that happened to them,
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Speaker 1: sort of with hopes and beliefs that their loved ones
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Speaker 1: would get better and get out of the hospital. We've
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Speaker 1: discovered and we have lived, many of us, with some
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Speaker 1: of the things that were just not as we had
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Speaker 1: hoped and things that, you know, really weren't all, just
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Speaker 1: weren't all factual and accurate. And in the last couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks, we've talked to several different folks, some nurses
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Speaker 1: and providers. We even had Dr. Tao Braun on and
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Speaker 1: he shared some ways, which we're going to talk a
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Speaker 1: little bit more about today on keeping yourself healthy and well.
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Speaker 1: My focus today I have to share is not just
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Speaker 1: a personal, but really a professional frustration. How many of
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Speaker 1: you have struggled when you go to get a prescription medication,
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Speaker 1: a test, a procedure, even schedule a provider visit, and
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Speaker 1: you're told you have to wait, you're told that, oh,
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Speaker 1: it has to be approved by your insurance. You're told, oh,
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Speaker 1: that's not covered by your insurance. There's always some glossy
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Speaker 1: little fine print identifier that doesn't let you necessarily have
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Speaker 1: things with ease quickly without jumping through hoops. And myself,
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Speaker 1: that's what I was spending part of today. And I'll
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Speaker 1: probably go back and help finish with some patients on
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Speaker 1: is finishing things to help. It becomes, we have to
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Speaker 1: like justify our existence, right? Or we have to justify
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Speaker 1: how much we really need something that we just don't
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Speaker 1: have that ability, that autonomy to, to drive and guide
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Speaker 1: our care quickly. Like when you're not feeling right and
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Speaker 1: you're maybe even just newly discovering that you've got a
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Speaker 1: diagnosis that needs urgent treatment, how many of you have
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Speaker 1: been told, oh, well, sure, we'll get you in. The
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Speaker 1: next available appointment is in four months, right? I've had
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Speaker 1: that happen to patients all too often. Fortunately, in the
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Speaker 1: work that I do and the places that I've provided,
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Speaker 1: My experience, we've been able to accommodate people, but I
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Speaker 1: find that that's rare. I find a lot of people
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Speaker 1: come to our doorsteps and they're shocked that they can
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Speaker 1: get in within a relatively short period of time, maybe
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Speaker 1: same day or maybe within two or three days. And
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Speaker 1: then we go and the next fun fact I love,
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Speaker 1: how many of you have experienced this? You and your
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Speaker 1: provider come up with a really good solution. You've had
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Speaker 1: other medications maybe that haven't worked so well. And then
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Speaker 1: you order the prescription and the first one is, oh,
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Speaker 1: that's denied. Your insurance company won't pay for that. You
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Speaker 1: need a prior authorization, otherwise known as a PA. And
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Speaker 1: then sometimes you get approved and you're like, oh, I'm
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Speaker 1: finally going to get the treatment that's helping or maybe
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Speaker 1: going to help me a little bit better. Maybe I'll
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Speaker 1: have less side effects because it's a newer, maybe it's
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Speaker 1: a better medication. And only to find out, that'll be
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Speaker 1: $ 428 or better still, that'll be $ 1, 100. And that's with insurance. So,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm excited to hear things that come across
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Speaker 1: the news media that there's plans in place to help us.
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Speaker 1: And I think those plans are helpful. And in some cases,
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Speaker 1: maybe some people have gotten some quick fixes. I don't
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Speaker 1: even know how many of you have experienced a benefit
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Speaker 1: with the use of the GLP-1s and 2s. I still
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Speaker 1: have patients coming to tell me that, Yeah, it's not
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Speaker 1: covered or it's covered, but it's still going to be
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Speaker 1: out of pocket $ 300. So, you know, to me, these
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Speaker 1: are all frustrators. And I hadn't expected to get myself to,
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Speaker 1: this is a real, you're catching me live, personally frustrated
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Speaker 1: today because I've had several do-overs myself. And when I
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Speaker 1: do something, my next favorite thing, I haven't talked about
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Speaker 1: this in a long time, but are you the kind
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Speaker 1: of person that hates a do-over? Like if you do it,
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Speaker 1: you want to be done with it. You want to
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Speaker 1: move on. If you file paperwork, you have filed it.
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Speaker 1: I must have had three or four different opportunities in
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Speaker 1: the last 24 hours where I've done something, put it
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Speaker 1: to rest, and I want to move on because I've
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Speaker 1: got a lot of other things to do only to
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Speaker 1: find out, oh, no, I don't have it. I can't
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Speaker 1: find it. Oh, yeah, no, we need more information. Oh,
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Speaker 1: my stars. Do-overs are probably my second best, biggest pet peeve.
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Speaker 1: So my first one is just wasting time. wasting time
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Speaker 1: because it's time you'll never get back. This past year,
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Speaker 1: I had the opportunity of waiting on hold with the IRS,
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Speaker 1: waiting on hold for just different venues of things that
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Speaker 1: you need to get through layers to get something done
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Speaker 1: or processed 20, 30, 40 minutes. The IRS was quite
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Speaker 1: amazing because I was on hold well over an hour
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Speaker 1: only to get transferred. And then I had to get
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Speaker 1: that person to help transfer me because they weren't the
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Speaker 1: right person for another hour Literally three hours of my life,
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Speaker 1: three times this year. That's nine hours on hold. Like,
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Speaker 1: that's a whole day. What could you do with nine
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Speaker 1: hours of free time, right? I mean, we could go
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Speaker 1: to the beach. We could go have lunch. We could
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Speaker 1: do a lot of great things, right? My thing for
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Speaker 1: self-care and health, and let's talk about our mental wellnesses,
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Speaker 1: we've got to move past the barriers that present themselves
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Speaker 1: in our life. And I want to challenge you with
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Speaker 1: a couple of things today and feel free, you know,
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Speaker 1: if you guys want to text in questions or if
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Speaker 1: you have a little anecdotal story you want to share too.
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Speaker 1: Today is the day to vent the day. Today is
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Speaker 1: the day to get some ideas on how do you
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Speaker 1: go forward. Today is the day to learn how to
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Speaker 1: relax and de-stress. And I'm also going to talk a
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Speaker 1: little bit about just ways to, as we go forward
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Speaker 1: into the The fall, I think we're also right up for,
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Speaker 1: I guess, the midterm elections, whatever side of the venture on.
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Speaker 1: Things always seem to be in a flurry this time
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Speaker 1: of year. And, you know, cold and flu seems to
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Speaker 1: be paramount. We hear about new illnesses. There's just a
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Speaker 1: lot of distractions out there today, a lot of distractions.
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Speaker 1: So the one thing that I want to talk to
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Speaker 1: you about is I had a patient because we always
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Speaker 1: get these pushbacks about we'll order a medication. And the
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Speaker 1: insurance company will come back and say, well, you've had
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Speaker 1: to have tried this med or this med or this
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Speaker 1: med and this med before we'll let you have this med.
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Speaker 1: And that's all fine and well. And I know that
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Speaker 1: at some point of the food chain in insurance companies,
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Speaker 1: there are nurses and providers that sometimes do get to
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Speaker 1: look at things when they get to higher levels. But
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Speaker 1: for the average person, the pushback is typically done by
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Speaker 1: a protocol, if you will, of reasons to deny a claim.
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Speaker 1: And maybe that's a little harsh. So not to offend
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Speaker 1: our insurance folks out there. But, you know, when a
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Speaker 1: claim is denied, and it comes back, think about what happens.
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Speaker 1: And this goes for pharmacies, too. I'm going to talk
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Speaker 1: about two of these things. And you tell me if
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Speaker 1: this happens, because I used to just think, well, you know,
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Speaker 1: maybe it's me, or maybe I didn't document enough, or
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Speaker 1: you know, how bad could it be? But the more
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Speaker 1: I continue to talk about this, the more I hear
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Speaker 1: this happens on a regular basis. But they push back
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Speaker 1: and they want you to try other medications. Why does
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Speaker 1: that get to be when we're the one front facing
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Speaker 1: with the patient, we're hearing from the patient, the signs,
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Speaker 1: the symptoms, the adverse effects they're having, or the general
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Speaker 1: overall feeling? And why don't we get to choose from
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Speaker 1: the medications that are out there and available to us?
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Speaker 1: And further, what's even more fascinating, I'm going to share,
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Speaker 1: I hope I'm sharing both sides or all sides of
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Speaker 1: the coin. Maybe there's more than two sides to this one. But,
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Speaker 1: you know, we're also faced with people that come in
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Speaker 1: to share clinical research evidence from the medications, the drug
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Speaker 1: manufacturers of why their medications are so good. And while
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Speaker 1: I often will push back and I, you know, I'm
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Speaker 1: a big proponent of we've got to take care of
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Speaker 1: the foundation of your body first, right? Hydration. nutrition, movement,
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Speaker 1: and sleep. There are good medications out there. And I
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Speaker 1: think those medications, when used appropriately, when everything else has
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Speaker 1: been measured, and when we try to use them for
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Speaker 1: as short a term as possible, and they don't fall
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Speaker 1: into an addictive behavior, you know, because some of the
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Speaker 1: meds that I don't agree with, if they're not used
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Speaker 1: short term, they really have negative effects. But why is
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Speaker 1: it I will get a drug rep in and we'll
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Speaker 1: hear all the wonderful things that it does. And I'll,
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Speaker 1: I'll buy in and say, you know, my patient's been
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Speaker 1: having a lot of trouble. I'm I can't tell you
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Speaker 1: how frustrating that is. And I had a patient a
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Speaker 1: few months back that really partnered with me. And now
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Speaker 1: I've got a few more patients that are partnering with me.
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Speaker 1: And that patient contacted his insurance company and would not
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Speaker 1: take no for an answer. And between him and what
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Speaker 1: we were able to do to do one of those
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Speaker 1: prior authorizations, and then a repeat review of it. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I can't tell you the number of layers that it
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Speaker 1: went through to get this medication prescribed. And it's in
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Speaker 1: the antidepressant category, right? We must have eight or 10,
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Speaker 1: 12 antidepressants. But as you go through all of them,
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Speaker 1: they all have different effects and they have all different benefits.
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Speaker 1: Who wouldn't want to have a medication to lift mood
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Speaker 1: that doesn't dampen their libido and doesn't give them weight gain? Anyone?
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Speaker 1: So he did not want to have to be put
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Speaker 1: back on another med. Now, you know, there's ways to
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Speaker 1: get that, right? I guess we could order it and
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Speaker 1: he could pick it up at the pharmacy and Maybe
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Speaker 1: he could give it an honest Abe effort, but the
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Speaker 1: guy really had been through. The guy had been through
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Speaker 1: the ringer and he really didn't want to have to
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Speaker 1: deal with waiting and waiting. He needed a medication. Well,
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Speaker 1: guess what? After push came to shove, it took over
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Speaker 1: four and a half, maybe five weeks back and forth
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Speaker 1: with the insurance company. And he was able to get
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Speaker 1: the medication. He's been on the medication. He's done some
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Speaker 1: additional treatment and now he's tapering off the medication. And
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Speaker 1: it was such a good experience for him. This is
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Speaker 1: a guy who at the age of 35 had a
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Speaker 1: heart attack. His blood pressure has been elevated. He's someone
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Speaker 1: who from a mental health perspective really held on hard
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Speaker 1: to life and it manifested in his body. It manifested
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Speaker 1: in his behavior. It manifested in his overall day-to-day life.
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Speaker 1: And while we were able to get him on a
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Speaker 1: good med, a better medication that allowed him to live life,
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Speaker 1: not put on weight, because again, there were weight management
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Speaker 1: issues with him in the past from using other meds.
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Speaker 1: It didn't lower the libido. So he was able to
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Speaker 1: have a life, you know, wife, enjoy himself. And then
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Speaker 1: we were able to get approved to do additional treatments,
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Speaker 1: which we often talk about here on this show. And
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Speaker 1: in about 10 weeks, we helped this guy really restabilize.
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Speaker 1: But we had to work so hard. And I'm all
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Speaker 1: for good work. What I'm not about is why does
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Speaker 1: it have to be that way nearly every time? And
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Speaker 1: if I could count on, it's more than two hands.
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Speaker 1: How many times we have to fight for the patient.
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Speaker 1: But when we fight alone, we often get denied. I've
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Speaker 1: given up on a few patients that I keep pushing
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Speaker 1: back why the patient needs the medication. And it's like,
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Speaker 1: all right, I'm just going to have to order you
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Speaker 1: these other ones first. I'm going to order them. Let
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Speaker 1: me know how you feel. And we have to go
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Speaker 1: through all of that. This is just one example, folks.
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Speaker 1: And my solution to this is we were complicit through
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Speaker 1: the pandemic, but we've learned a lot. And I'm all about,
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Speaker 1: you know, you learn something, then let's do something different
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Speaker 1: with it, right? And I think I am pretty fired
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Speaker 1: up because I could just hear it in my voice today.
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Speaker 1: But I want you to be fired up. You pay
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Speaker 1: for your health care. You pay for that insurance. Why
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Speaker 1: do we just allow these insurance companies to tell us
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Speaker 1: what to do and what they won't do? I don't
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Speaker 1: know if you all recall, but part of why I
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Speaker 1: wrote my book, They Call Me Harriet, I think Rebel
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Speaker 1: will put that up for me. I had to fight
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Speaker 1: after I made it out of the hospital to get
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Speaker 1: a test, a scan, to be sure I wasn't throwing
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Speaker 1: any additional clots in both my head and my chest.
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Speaker 1: I'm in this world. I'm in this business. How many
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Speaker 1: patients wouldn't have the ability or the understanding or the
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Speaker 1: wherewithal or even the energy to keep pushing back? And
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Speaker 1: just to get a CT of my head and chest
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Speaker 1: took three additional weeks. I had lab work that indicated
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Speaker 1: that I was still inflamed. I had lab work that
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Speaker 1: showed there's a potential I could have thrown a clot.
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Speaker 1: If I just didn't do anything, how would I have
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Speaker 1: been able to be sure that I could increase my
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Speaker 1: ability to start to move and improve my health while
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Speaker 1: losing precious time waiting, right? So much we've all waited for.
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Speaker 1: And I'm just here to tell you, you guys have
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Speaker 1: to take ownership and take authority over your health and
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Speaker 1: wellness and your healthcare. You have to. I wish we
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Speaker 1: could just wait and let everybody who's trying to work
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Speaker 1: on things, you know, I think there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: good things RFK is attempting to do, but I honestly
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Speaker 1: don't believe they know all of these underpinnings. Let me
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Speaker 1: give you another good example. I know we've got a
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Speaker 1: bunch of questions. This is fantastic. I've had pushback on
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Speaker 1: patients when I put in a prescription and I want
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Speaker 1: to order something to help and I give them a
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Speaker 1: 30 day, 30 day prescription. Sometimes I'll add a refill,
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Speaker 1: but oftentimes it's just a 30 day script. Do you know, literally,
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Speaker 1: I have had a patient, she didn't think to call
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Speaker 1: me and question or tell me until she came in
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Speaker 1: for her next visit. She hasn't started the medication yet.
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Speaker 1: Do you know why? Because she was told by the pharmacist, well,
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Speaker 1: her insurance requires a 90-day fill. Now, what's the problem
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Speaker 1: with that? Number one, if we try the medication and
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Speaker 1: in three or four, five days or a week, because
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Speaker 1: usually you know how you're going to feel if you're
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Speaker 1: going to tolerate it within a week's period of time,
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Speaker 1: it might not be its full potential. But the pharmacist
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Speaker 1: told her, yeah, you need a 90-day refill. Your insurance
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Speaker 1: won't provide it. Two problems that I know of. There
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Speaker 1: could be more, but I only know of two. The
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Speaker 1: first one is if you just Google or ask your
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Speaker 1: friendly AI, and this has changed since July of last
15:51
Speaker 1: year to the July year before, the response back from
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Speaker 1: AI has shifted a little bit. The initial response used
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Speaker 1: to be, yeah, pharmacists are bonused. for changing a 30-day
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Speaker 1: script to a 90-day script for refill. The rationale is, well,
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Speaker 1: let's bonus them and we'll save time and labor from
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Speaker 1: having to refill so many prescriptions every 30 days. The
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Speaker 1: pharmacist will tell you it's the insurance company. And just
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Speaker 1: the other day, the insurance company sent a patient of mine,
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Speaker 1: a different patient, a letter stating, we need you to
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Speaker 1: get your prescriptions every 90 days. Does that bother anyone?
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Speaker 1: It should. Do you know why? Again, I go to
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Speaker 1: the man behind the curtain. I know there are nurses
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Speaker 1: and providers in the insurance companies to some level, but
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Speaker 1: those nurses and insurance providers, you do know what they're doing.
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Speaker 1: They're getting their clinical expertise, their clinical opinion, their clinical
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Speaker 1: impression to help the insurance companies reduce cost and lower
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Speaker 1: what they pay out. I mean, I get it. It's frugal.
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Speaker 1: And for years, I have bought into that because in hospitals,
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Speaker 1: we were always looking at ways of defraying costs so
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Speaker 1: that it would make more economic sense of let's get
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Speaker 1: the best quality to the patient, but let's do it
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Speaker 1: at the best cost. Well, I really feel like the
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Speaker 1: tables have shifted and they're not very well balanced. And
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Speaker 1: so what happens when you get a 90 day refill,
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Speaker 1: you're not really allowing your provider to have good dialogue
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Speaker 1: and good interaction. And what happens? And when I'm just
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Speaker 1: talking about general medications, you know, in psychiatry, but even in,
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Speaker 1: in primary care, You know, if you improve your lifestyle
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Speaker 1: and your blood pressure comes down, wouldn't you want to
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Speaker 1: maybe reduce the dose, right? So when we take that
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Speaker 1: away from the person who's prescribing, and that's a big deal,
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Speaker 1: people that are licensed to prescribe, we don't take that
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Speaker 1: with any, you know, lesser thought than I'm doing my
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Speaker 1: best for this patient. I don't want them to be over-medicated.
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Speaker 1: I want them to have the right combination of medications.
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Speaker 1: Why do I have somebody behind a desk saying, I
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Speaker 1: need a 90 day. It's cheaper. I need a 90 day.
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Speaker 1: Patients have gotten these letters in writing. Pharmacies have pushed back.
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Speaker 1: I've had pharmacies even tell patients, oh, I can't fill
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Speaker 1: that prescription. It's it's not the right dose or it's
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Speaker 1: not this or we can't fill it. It's not in stock.
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Speaker 1: You know, these pharmacies have the ability to cross pull
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Speaker 1: from other places. I can get if you accidentally run out,
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Speaker 1: but you know, there's some things that I don't understand
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Speaker 1: when you push back on the patient and then they
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Speaker 1: don't give them, let me contact your provider and see
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Speaker 1: if we can't get you an alternative till I get
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Speaker 1: it in or tell them to go get it filled
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Speaker 1: somewhere else because they can't get it quickly. But they're
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Speaker 1: not passing this information on to all of the consumers.
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Speaker 1: And every time I tell a patient this, they're shocked.
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Speaker 1: I've even had, this is the fourth big one. I've
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Speaker 1: had pharmacies tell patients, Well, instead of getting the 10
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Speaker 1: milligram prescription, why don't you ask them to give you
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Speaker 1: the 20? Why? They told the patient this. Because 20
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Speaker 1: milligrams is cheaper. Cheaper for who? Okay, that's not okay.
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Speaker 1: And recently, the other part to that is I've had
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Speaker 1: a patient that was on a very high dose of medication.
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Speaker 1: And so in order to taper them effectively, we need
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Speaker 1: to bring it down, you know, by 25%. So it
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Speaker 1: might go from 150 to 100 and 75. then 50,
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Speaker 1: then 25. Do you know I had a pharmacist withhold
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Speaker 1: giving them anything? Because mathematically, they couldn't dispense out seven
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Speaker 1: days worth of a medication. And they said, oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's not covered by your insurance. I could have worked.
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Speaker 1: Think about this. Okay, 150, 100, 75, 50, 25. Let's
19:40
Speaker 1: just give the woman a 25 milligram tablet Add up
19:50
Speaker 1: how many tablets that would take just to get her
19:53
Speaker 1: down by a couple of weeks because I was going
19:55
Speaker 1: to continue to see her. They withheld this for over
19:58
Speaker 1: seven days. And do you know what she ended up doing?
20:00
Speaker 1: She ended up just stopping the medication cold turkey because
20:03
Speaker 1: she ran out. And while we kept trying to negotiate
20:07
Speaker 1: back with the pharmacy, We're titrating down. We need you
20:11
Speaker 1: to take the order we've given you at each prescription.
20:15
Speaker 1: I gave him a script for each level down with
20:19
Speaker 1: enough that she could have had a little bit more,
20:21
Speaker 1: but it was enough that they would have safely been
20:23
Speaker 1: able to taper. I mean, hello. Hello. Do any of
20:27
Speaker 1: you know this is going on behind the scenes? Because
20:30
Speaker 1: like I need you all to start calling your insurance companies,
20:34
Speaker 1: your pharmacist and push back. I want you to have education.
20:39
Speaker 1: I want you to be able to ask questions. Now,
20:42
Speaker 1: I know a bunch of you have questions, so let's
20:44
Speaker 1: jump into some of these. Jessup has asked, is there
20:47
Speaker 1: a way to do things around the permission from others
20:50
Speaker 1: like certain doctors? Why do you need to see another
20:53
Speaker 1: than a primary care to get things you know you need?
20:55
Speaker 1: You know, that's a tough one. Again, this is laden
20:59
Speaker 1: by the insurance companies. If your doctor says you need
21:03
Speaker 1: to get XYZ, it would be nice. But see, this
21:06
Speaker 1: is where we've, We've given up control and we've bought
21:09
Speaker 1: into some of these, you know, the PPOs and the
21:12
Speaker 1: HMOs and the high deductibles. Some people need those authorization
21:18
Speaker 1: forms so they can get a referral. You're absolutely right. Unfortunately,
21:22
Speaker 1: we need to learn a little bit more about what
21:24
Speaker 1: our insurance does and what it covers. And maybe an
21:27
Speaker 1: open enrollment is a good time to learn more about
21:29
Speaker 1: how much spend do you have? Learn what your insurances
21:34
Speaker 1: will do to help you And ask them these questions
21:37
Speaker 1: before you sign up and say, you know, if I
21:40
Speaker 1: have this, how can I quickly get in and get
21:43
Speaker 1: something else done if I need a specialist visit? Because
21:46
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, Jessup, there's delays and barriers. And then
21:51
Speaker 1: that opens up a whole different day's discussion of why
21:54
Speaker 1: is it so hard to get into a cardiologist and
21:56
Speaker 1: an interventional radiologist and a neuropsych and even general psychiatry
22:03
Speaker 1: or internal medicine? I get it. Like a lot of
22:06
Speaker 1: these offices are busy and they're booked and the density
22:09
Speaker 1: of where people are, but you're absolutely right. Like we,
22:12
Speaker 1: we delay care. I don't have a solution for the
22:15
Speaker 1: backup of booking appointments, but I would start with asking
22:18
Speaker 1: your insurance carriers to give you guidance on if I
22:22
Speaker 1: can't get in with somebody, can you help me get
22:24
Speaker 1: the appointment? Because it's important. And I would start making
22:27
Speaker 1: the insurance companies do a little work. Many of the
22:30
Speaker 1: insurance companies have these care providers that, that are supposed
22:34
Speaker 1: to help you navigate along the way, get them busy.
22:37
Speaker 1: What I worry about though, is you get on the
22:39
Speaker 1: phone with these insurance companies. A lot of times it's
22:42
Speaker 1: a wait and a wait and a wait. You might
22:44
Speaker 1: get disconnected, but yeah, we've got to start taking ownership
22:48
Speaker 1: of our care. We need good self-care. We need wellness.
22:52
Speaker 1: And I promise you guys, the medical model that's out
22:55
Speaker 1: there right now, it's really not so wellness driven. It's
22:58
Speaker 1: a business. They're in the business of keeping you sick.
23:02
Speaker 1: And if they delay treatment, Again, the delay can cost
23:06
Speaker 1: you time and it can cost you wellness. Hopefully that's answering.
23:09
Speaker 1: If not, send us a message back. Odessa wanted to
23:13
Speaker 1: know where can we go to get the help we
23:16
Speaker 1: need when the insurance that we pay won't help us?
23:18
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have a solid answer there, but
23:22
Speaker 1: I think you've got to start with the insurance companies.
23:25
Speaker 1: And I think you've got to reach out and ask
23:26
Speaker 1: them these questions. And then if the insurance company is
23:30
Speaker 1: not answering your questions, Odessa, Ask them if they have
23:34
Speaker 1: what they call like a care provider team, a team
23:37
Speaker 1: that has somebody that's supposed to be your advocate. So
23:40
Speaker 1: there's someone there that you can start asking these questions
23:44
Speaker 1: and getting answers from. That's the first place I'd start.
23:48
Speaker 1: There are some newer agencies out there. I say they're newer.
23:52
Speaker 1: I know there's even some nurses out there that are
23:55
Speaker 1: helping people guide them through different ways to find out
23:59
Speaker 1: how to get the help they need. I know one
24:02
Speaker 1: of them is called Remnant Nursing. I don't have the
24:05
Speaker 1: website today. This is a great question, but and maybe
24:09
Speaker 1: I'll even get them on my podcast. But, you know,
24:11
Speaker 1: it's a group of nurses that got together and they
24:14
Speaker 1: are now helping to drive and guide people. So there are,
24:17
Speaker 1: you know, what they call advocates. And if you get
24:20
Speaker 1: an advocate, that advocate can be somebody that can help you.
24:25
Speaker 1: But I think that's one that you might even reach
24:27
Speaker 1: out to. It's called Remnant Nursing. But I'll bring more
24:30
Speaker 1: of that for the next show because I have lots
24:32
Speaker 1: more to tell you folks about on this because it
24:34
Speaker 1: has hit such a pet peeve of mine. It's not
24:37
Speaker 1: even funny. If I have one more patient that doesn't
24:39
Speaker 1: get the care and the medication they need because of
24:43
Speaker 1: a prior authorization. And let me explain the prior authorization.
24:47
Speaker 1: You go in, you write down and you defend why
24:50
Speaker 1: you need what you need and why it needs to
24:52
Speaker 1: go against the grain. They still may make you order
24:55
Speaker 1: these prior meds. They still may make you go through
24:58
Speaker 1: a second party, like a higher review. But the prior authorization,
25:04
Speaker 1: if you're documenting in your note, I just saw Mary.
25:08
Speaker 1: Mary's not having a great response to this kind of medication.
25:11
Speaker 1: I'm putting her on this medication because it's increasing her anxiety.
25:15
Speaker 1: It's increasing her weight gain. She's worried about these type
25:18
Speaker 1: of side effects. This medication has shown to have better
25:22
Speaker 1: efficacy And I think it's a great solution for this patient.
25:26
Speaker 1: Here's her mental status exam. And here's what I'm looking
25:29
Speaker 1: to do. This is for all of you guys. I mean,
25:31
Speaker 1: I do put a little bit more into that. But
25:33
Speaker 1: generally speaking, why is my diagnosis and my request for
25:37
Speaker 1: that medication not enough? It's a medication that's out there.
25:40
Speaker 1: It's approved by the FDA. It's on the formularies. Why
25:43
Speaker 1: can't I give my patient what I want to give?
25:46
Speaker 1: And then the second part, if I give this medication,
25:49
Speaker 1: why are you going to extort the price? Fun fact. Trintillix,
25:55
Speaker 1: it's an antidepressant. It's in the SNRI category. There's SSRI, SNRI, tricyclics.
26:02
Speaker 1: The SNRI has a little bit of a norepinephrine uptake.
26:05
Speaker 1: Helps you. It's more energizing. They are, since the patents end,
26:11
Speaker 1: like all meds, the patents end and then you can
26:13
Speaker 1: get generics. Do you know how hard it's been in
26:16
Speaker 1: the last six months to get this medication ordered without
26:18
Speaker 1: an exorbitant fee? Because it's about to go generic. Everybody
26:23
Speaker 1: wants to make that last almighty dollar. Check it out.
26:26
Speaker 1: Y'all wonder why Trintillix is so difficult to get right now.
26:29
Speaker 1: Could be a number of reasons. I can only tell
26:31
Speaker 1: you from the provider side, but every patient that comes
26:34
Speaker 1: back and says, Oh yeah, it was approved, but it's $ 128.
26:36
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's $ 400. Oh my gosh. You know,
26:41
Speaker 1: there's also coupon codes out there that pretty much every
26:45
Speaker 1: medication you can take, at least from the psychiatric side, Trintillix, Welbutrin, um,
26:54
Speaker 1: all these different ones. If you go onto the site,
26:57
Speaker 1: type in the name of the medication.com or Google your
27:00
Speaker 1: medication and find the pharmaceutical company. They do have programs
27:06
Speaker 1: if you put your information in, especially if you have
27:08
Speaker 1: commercial insurance and all these coupon cards, too many people
27:12
Speaker 1: don't use them. You can get a medication for zero
27:16
Speaker 1: to $ 10 for a couple of months. And then after
27:19
Speaker 1: you're on it for a couple of months, it should
27:20
Speaker 1: be something that your insurance company will pick up That's
27:23
Speaker 1: why they put these insurance cards or these coupon cards
27:26
Speaker 1: out there. I can't tell you every time when I
27:29
Speaker 1: give a patient a coupon card, they didn't know that
27:32
Speaker 1: it existed. And they're out there. They're on the website.
27:34
Speaker 1: People just Google the name of your medication you're on.
27:38
Speaker 1: There's also GoodRx.com. I'm not finding GoodRx is helpful these
27:42
Speaker 1: days to give people discounts, but there's a few out
27:45
Speaker 1: there cheaper than GoodRx. And my favorite fun fact, again,
27:49
Speaker 1: is when you go into the pharmacy and you go
27:51
Speaker 1: to pick up the prescriptions, And the pharmacist can't find
27:54
Speaker 1: the good RX discount. The pharmacist can't seem to help
27:57
Speaker 1: you with getting this med for a lower price. And
27:59
Speaker 1: you're standing there, you're ready to pick up your script.
28:02
Speaker 1: People are behind you and you're like, well, just give
28:04
Speaker 1: me a minute. Let me Google. Let me, let me
28:06
Speaker 1: find it. Cause I saw it. You know, again, we
28:09
Speaker 1: need to be advocates for ourselves and you guys need
28:12
Speaker 1: to start doing your homework. Don't be duped. Don't be
28:16
Speaker 1: told no. educate, learn from what I'm telling you today
28:20
Speaker 1: and find some ways to get better resources to help yourself.
28:25
Speaker 1: So great questions. We've got a few more and it
28:29
Speaker 1: looks like, oh yeah, oh my, Leah, you've got a
28:31
Speaker 1: lot of questions. I lost the other ones, but Leah
28:36
Speaker 1: is asking about why are we forced to have Medicare
28:40
Speaker 1: at a certain age? I have to agree with you
28:42
Speaker 1: on that. They're forcing us to have things that take
28:45
Speaker 1: money and they really don't pay for anything. You are
28:47
Speaker 1: absolutely right. Let's talk about that. And then who is that? Oh,
28:51
Speaker 1: that's Lyle. I'm sorry. But you're absolutely right. You know,
28:55
Speaker 1: I can't tell you with certainty. I think, you know,
28:58
Speaker 1: the way things had been set up in the government
29:00
Speaker 1: a number of years ago, many years ago, it was
29:03
Speaker 1: set up to help people because they got to a
29:05
Speaker 1: ripe age in their 60s. And that was just the
29:08
Speaker 1: standard set. And here's here's a supplement to help you.
29:11
Speaker 1: But that supplement sometimes comes with a lot of limitations.
29:15
Speaker 1: I don't know all the ins and out of it,
29:17
Speaker 1: but I do know that, yeah, I have a person
29:19
Speaker 1: who's on Medicare and they will not pay for brand
29:23
Speaker 1: label Wellbutrin. They'll pay for the generic. It's cheap, $ 15
29:27
Speaker 1: for generic. But for Wellbutrin, the actual brand name, over $ 400.
29:34
Speaker 1: You know, why is that okay? You know, why can't
29:37
Speaker 1: we get the brand name? Why is the brand name
29:39
Speaker 1: so much more... expensive? Do you all know that? Like
29:42
Speaker 1: every time you ask for your med, they give you
29:43
Speaker 1: a generic. It's not just because it's the same. I
29:47
Speaker 1: think you guys heard when we had Dr. Tal Braun on,
29:51
Speaker 1: we talked about those. Well, Buterin has over 10, it's
29:54
Speaker 1: somewhere between 10 and 19, 10 to 19 different generic combinations.
30:00
Speaker 1: So when you get Wellbutrin this month and you get
30:03
Speaker 1: the generic bupropion, next month you may get a different
30:06
Speaker 1: manufactured bupropion. Have you ever noticed the effects of the medications?
30:11
Speaker 1: You may not always feel the same or as good.
30:13
Speaker 1: It's because the generics all have a slight chemical component
30:17
Speaker 1: that's different because that's what happens after the brand, the
30:21
Speaker 1: trademark expires, the patent rather, but all the generics can
30:25
Speaker 1: come in and have just a slightly different ingredient. So
30:28
Speaker 1: all your generics have just slightly different ingredients, generally the same.
30:32
Speaker 1: They've been tested. So they're all good in a way,
30:36
Speaker 1: but if you're not responding, you know, maybe try to
30:40
Speaker 1: get the brand name, but good luck with that because
30:42
Speaker 1: they seem to have those prices all jacked up. Um,
30:45
Speaker 1: Jessup had asked about, is there a way to do
30:47
Speaker 1: things around these permissions from others like certain doctors? Um, Oh,
30:52
Speaker 1: he'd kind of talked about that one. Um, Where can
30:55
Speaker 1: we go to get the help we need when insurance
30:57
Speaker 1: that we pay won't help us? That's really tough, you know,
31:00
Speaker 1: because we do rely on insurance. What I'm trying to
31:04
Speaker 1: foster with many of you is if you take ownership
31:08
Speaker 1: and this doesn't, this doesn't display and take away the
31:12
Speaker 1: fact that there's, there's real medical illnesses, there's real need
31:16
Speaker 1: for treatment and medications. But if you can start with
31:20
Speaker 1: improving the way you put things in your body and
31:23
Speaker 1: My first thing to you, Odessa, really is going to
31:27
Speaker 1: be start leaning into what we call a leaner, cleaner diet.
31:33
Speaker 1: It's very overstated many times here on this show, but
31:36
Speaker 1: when you really scale back and you try to eat
31:39
Speaker 1: things that are more freshly cooked, vegetables, grilled chicken, grilled steak, salmon, hummus,
31:45
Speaker 1: finding products that are not processed, boxed or bagged, when
31:49
Speaker 1: you hydrate and really get up to your half your
31:52
Speaker 1: body weight and ounces of good fluid every day, it's
31:55
Speaker 1: really amazing how you feel. You all may have heard
31:58
Speaker 1: me the last couple, gosh, it's been a couple of months.
32:00
Speaker 1: I did that 75 day hard challenge. In that 75
32:04
Speaker 1: day hard challenge, I still am eating lean and clean
32:07
Speaker 1: and I really eat very well and I hydrate very well.
32:11
Speaker 1: But the amount of clarity and just good elimination, good
32:15
Speaker 1: overall feeling, waking up feeling refreshed, you can do a
32:19
Speaker 1: lot for your wellness. Um, it's probably a good time
32:22
Speaker 1: to throw this into, and I'll talk more about it
32:24
Speaker 1: if we have time at the end, but preventative things,
32:27
Speaker 1: you know, uh, Nana had asked about what helps stop
32:31
Speaker 1: inflammation in the body when we can calm that inflammation down,
32:35
Speaker 1: you know, getting turmeric, uh, cucurbit and turmeric are two
32:39
Speaker 1: really good products. You take the powder, you sprinkle it
32:42
Speaker 1: into your tea, into your foods, across your foods in
32:46
Speaker 1: a salad. Um, Those can really help. There's also anti-inflammatory
32:52
Speaker 1: type things that you can do by adding, you know,
32:55
Speaker 1: branched chain amino acid powder into your water, drinking and
32:58
Speaker 1: utilizing more clean and lean protein. If you don't like
33:02
Speaker 1: the whey protein, you can do plant-based protein. There's also
33:06
Speaker 1: things like NAC. We've talked about this a lot. NAC tablets,
33:11
Speaker 1: NAD tablets, These are all things too you can find
33:14
Speaker 1: on my website if you go under magnoliabwellness.com and it's
33:18
Speaker 1: under the product section. And there's multiple manufacturers in there.
33:22
Speaker 1: So you may take a few notes or re-watch the
33:24
Speaker 1: podcast when it comes out on iHeartRadio. Usually Monday, these
33:32
Speaker 1: shows are put out there if you don't get everything today.
33:35
Speaker 1: But NAD, NAC are very helpful with inflammation, including the glucothione.
33:43
Speaker 1: in your supplement of vitamins can be very helpful. But
33:47
Speaker 1: using the product like Dr. Braun had talked about is
33:50
Speaker 1: a nice way to keep yourself healthy by eliminating the
33:55
Speaker 1: negative influence of some of the environmental bacterias that we're
33:58
Speaker 1: exposed to. It's copperine.com. I think we've got it at
34:02
Speaker 1: the bottom of the screen. There it is. It's copperine, C-O-P-P-E-R-I-N-E.com.
34:09
Speaker 1: And you can use the discount code from hearing it
34:12
Speaker 1: on the show, Magnolia. It's a little mister. I was
34:15
Speaker 1: going to bring it for today's show and I left
34:17
Speaker 1: it in the other room, but you open it up.
34:19
Speaker 1: It sprays a little mist right under your nose. And
34:22
Speaker 1: what that does is it gets into your nasal mucus
34:24
Speaker 1: membranes and it helps go in and fight the nasal
34:28
Speaker 1: exposure that you might get to the common cold viruses
34:30
Speaker 1: and the flu. Those things can help be a preventative
34:34
Speaker 1: to keep you healthy and well. And the whole inflammatory process,
34:38
Speaker 1: you know, if you stick out your tongue and you
34:40
Speaker 1: take a look in the mirror and it's primarily white,
34:44
Speaker 1: a tongue that's primarily white tends to have a higher
34:47
Speaker 1: yeast content and yeast. If any of you, do y'all
34:51
Speaker 1: remember biology and how much fun that was? And you
34:53
Speaker 1: would get these little Petri dishes and they would tell you,
34:57
Speaker 1: take this, you tip and swab it in this jar
35:00
Speaker 1: and then just wipe it gently across the jelly. They'll
35:03
Speaker 1: stab the jelly, just gently rub it across. I think
35:05
Speaker 1: I stabbed the jelly a few times, but yeah, let's
35:08
Speaker 1: come back to our class in two days and let's
35:10
Speaker 1: see what grows on that jelly. Well, that's the Petri
35:14
Speaker 1: dish effect. And so if you find that you're congested,
35:17
Speaker 1: you've got mucus, you're sick a lot, your tongue is white,
35:21
Speaker 1: you are a Petri dish. And so that means that
35:24
Speaker 1: your level of yeast is probably high and yeast is
35:29
Speaker 1: what grows bacteria and makes it a nice place for
35:32
Speaker 1: bacteria to just multiply. So if you want to cut
35:35
Speaker 1: down on the yeast and the bacterium, couple of things
35:38
Speaker 1: you can do. Some providers will provide you like an antifungal,
35:42
Speaker 1: like diflucan to help get rid of that yeast. The
35:45
Speaker 1: other cool thing is if you do get rid of
35:48
Speaker 1: the yeast, you can improve the yeast by cutting out
35:51
Speaker 1: your sugar. You know, it's tough for some people and
35:54
Speaker 1: cutting down on excess of carbohydrates. You know, there's quick
35:58
Speaker 1: carbs that we need for energy, but how many of
36:00
Speaker 1: us love a good bowl of pasta and some homemade bread,
36:04
Speaker 1: some white rice and baked potatoes, you know, that starch
36:09
Speaker 1: carbohydrate converts into yeast, converts into that excess, right? And
36:17
Speaker 1: when those carbs aren't used and it's stored and you
36:20
Speaker 1: grow that yeast, just think about it growing from your
36:23
Speaker 1: mouth all the way down to where you eliminate it.
36:26
Speaker 1: So you've got, and how many feet of intestines do
36:29
Speaker 1: we have over 20 feet? So that's a lot of
36:31
Speaker 1: room for a lot of yeast and a lot of overgrowth.
36:34
Speaker 1: And so think about this too. We've kind of drifted
36:37
Speaker 1: off a little bit, but when you have that kind
36:39
Speaker 1: of bacteria and storage in a nice warm, dark place,
36:44
Speaker 1: a lot of the things that we have that give
36:47
Speaker 1: us different colds and flu and ailments, they don't always
36:50
Speaker 1: die off. You know, you can take an antibiotic for
36:52
Speaker 1: the bacterial stuff, but the viral stuff, you know, you can, um,
36:57
Speaker 1: You can actually have stuff that just sits really comfortably
37:00
Speaker 1: quiet and it's been mostly killed, but not completely killed
37:04
Speaker 1: in your intestine. So doing a cleanse, doing something like
37:07
Speaker 1: a colon cleanse, there's a lot of different cleanses you
37:10
Speaker 1: can do. You can also do, you know, the glucothione
37:15
Speaker 1: to really detox, get some, you know, get some of
37:17
Speaker 1: that going. That's another reason why I recommend a lot
37:20
Speaker 1: of these IVs that you can get at a variety
37:23
Speaker 1: of number of places that have like a glucothione IV
37:25
Speaker 1: or and NACIV, but you can get these as supplements too,
37:29
Speaker 1: and they will help. They will just, they will definitely help.
37:33
Speaker 1: So hopefully that's given you some good information on the
37:35
Speaker 1: inflammation piece. Let me also cover, what's the other question?
37:41
Speaker 1: The right people won't be in law office. Yeah, you're right.
37:44
Speaker 1: I hope not. I really hope the, Jake was saying,
37:48
Speaker 1: you know, the right people may not be in office
37:50
Speaker 1: long enough to see the changes. I think that's where
37:52
Speaker 1: you and I come in folks, you know, I want
37:55
Speaker 1: to believe that if each and every one of us
37:59
Speaker 1: does something, it just starts with you. It starts at
38:02
Speaker 1: your level. And again, I go back to that's why
38:04
Speaker 1: I wrote the book. I wanted to share my experiences
38:07
Speaker 1: to educate others. In the back of my book, I
38:10
Speaker 1: do have a ton of resources on ways to get lenses,
38:15
Speaker 1: different providers that can help you. There's ways to reach
38:19
Speaker 1: me in the back of the book. There's ways to
38:21
Speaker 1: follow up and get some folks that across the country,
38:24
Speaker 1: if you go on to the FLCCC.net website, they have
38:29
Speaker 1: a place of references where you can reach myself and
38:31
Speaker 1: other providers in your state that will help you from
38:34
Speaker 1: more of a, I want to say holistic, but it's
38:36
Speaker 1: not just holistic. If you want to be treated medically
38:40
Speaker 1: in any discipline, these are providers that are going to
38:43
Speaker 1: give you choices. These are providers that are not going
38:46
Speaker 1: to tell you you're bad if you chose not to
38:48
Speaker 1: get shot X, Y, or Z. You know, it's, it's
38:52
Speaker 1: kind of a little hard to hear today from folks
38:54
Speaker 1: that are getting some of the, the, um, the different
38:57
Speaker 1: shots that are out there because we have learned so much.
39:00
Speaker 1: And I've had people that are on this show that
39:03
Speaker 1: are far more expert than I, they can broken down
39:05
Speaker 1: the chemical components of some of the, the different immunizations,
39:10
Speaker 1: the flu shots, um, the COVID shots, all those things.
39:14
Speaker 1: And it gives me, it gives me angst when I
39:17
Speaker 1: hear that somebody is just oh yeah I'm going to
39:19
Speaker 1: get loaded up on my you know xyz if that's
39:22
Speaker 1: your choice okay but do you really have the information
39:24
Speaker 1: you need and if you do you know it might
39:27
Speaker 1: work for you but for me and from what I've learned.
39:30
Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't have done some of the things
39:32
Speaker 1: I do. I don't even know that I would have
39:34
Speaker 1: survived having gone through such a devastating time in the
39:37
Speaker 1: hospital with that COVID, whatever it was, COVID virus. It
39:42
Speaker 1: was debilitating. And so I want to pass on not
39:45
Speaker 1: just my personal experience, but my professional experience too with
39:48
Speaker 1: some of these things And my big thing to all
39:51
Speaker 1: of you is start with your body. Start with taking
39:55
Speaker 1: your diet seriously. You know, I eat very well, but
39:59
Speaker 1: I also don't eat a lot of junk. And funny story,
40:02
Speaker 1: because I'm not perfect. After I finished that 75 day
40:05
Speaker 1: hard challenge, it was Tuesday. Yeah, it was Tuesday. I
40:11
Speaker 1: was starving and I had a great breakfast. I had
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Speaker 1: worked out that morning and I didn't have enough food
40:16
Speaker 1: with me in the office. And I had gone over
40:18
Speaker 1: to the break room And they had provided a breakfast
40:21
Speaker 1: for us from Panera Bread. And I was just hoping
40:23
Speaker 1: to find a little bit more of the healthy stuff.
40:26
Speaker 1: Guess what was in the office? The most beautiful, most
40:30
Speaker 1: amazingly glazed cinnamon bun from Panera Bread. And it was
40:35
Speaker 1: calling my name. There were three of them there. And
40:38
Speaker 1: it didn't look so bad if I only took one.
40:40
Speaker 1: And so I said, you know, I'm really hungry. I've
40:43
Speaker 1: got about four more hours to see patients. I've been
40:46
Speaker 1: so good. It'll fill me up. It'll taste good. It
40:49
Speaker 1: won't bother me. That was at four o'clock. I cut
40:52
Speaker 1: it in half. And when I had the first half,
40:55
Speaker 1: I could just feel the sugar and it went down
40:58
Speaker 1: so smooth. And I already didn't feel quite amazing, but
41:02
Speaker 1: what did I do? I ate the second half and
41:05
Speaker 1: now I'm not feeling so good. And I never really
41:08
Speaker 1: felt a sugar high, but I sure felt a sugar low.
41:11
Speaker 1: And I think because my body is so used to
41:14
Speaker 1: not having sugar that it hit me really hard. It
41:16
Speaker 1: was like the The bad experience none of us would
41:18
Speaker 1: ever have. And I still had patience to see. By
41:21
Speaker 1: the time I was done work, I'm like, what else
41:23
Speaker 1: can I have to counteract the sugar? I'm trying protein.
41:27
Speaker 1: I'm trying hydration. That feeling lingered with me all night.
41:31
Speaker 1: My intestines were just screaming at me. I went out
41:35
Speaker 1: and tried to have a nice evening out. And I
41:38
Speaker 1: went to bed feeling pretty crappy. And then I woke up.
41:41
Speaker 1: And when I woke up the next morning, I was
41:44
Speaker 1: just tired. My head hurt. I got to tell you,
41:48
Speaker 1: sweets and excess carbs are very overrated. So learn from
41:52
Speaker 1: my cinnamon bun experience. It's just not worth the wasted feeling.
41:58
Speaker 1: It's just not. And it takes some practice to get
42:01
Speaker 1: into that. I mean, I'm telling you, I came from
42:04
Speaker 1: in my 30s. I rationalized that a half a gallon
42:07
Speaker 1: of ice cream at night was OK because I had
42:09
Speaker 1: three kids. I worked out all the time. I can't
42:12
Speaker 1: even tell you the last time I had ice cream,
42:14
Speaker 1: you know, and you have to do you. But I'm
42:16
Speaker 1: telling you, if you want to beat all this stuff,
42:18
Speaker 1: if you want to feel better, if you want to
42:20
Speaker 1: not have to answer to yet another ailment, another diagnosis,
42:25
Speaker 1: we've got to lean up and clean up our nutrition.
42:28
Speaker 1: I think it's important to learn how to fuel your body,
42:31
Speaker 1: how to put the right hydration in your body. You
42:34
Speaker 1: may not like to work out. It's okay. Go for
42:36
Speaker 1: a brisk walk. Sit. Do chair yoga. Do some YouTube videos.
42:41
Speaker 1: But we've really got to learn how to take better
42:44
Speaker 1: care of our bodies. It's going to help us physically.
42:47
Speaker 1: It's going to help us physiologically with like our blood
42:51
Speaker 1: pressure and our kidneys. It's also going to help our
42:54
Speaker 1: mental wellness. And that's what's so important, folks, is your
42:58
Speaker 1: brain is your motherboard, right? So if you're feeling bad,
43:02
Speaker 1: there's a very high likelihood why you feel bad. It's
43:05
Speaker 1: driven by hormones. It's driven by nutrition. It's driven by hydration.
43:09
Speaker 1: It's driven by external circumstances, right? And those things we
43:13
Speaker 1: can't necessarily control. But what you can control is yourself.
43:17
Speaker 1: So let's start there. Now, let me make sure if
43:20
Speaker 1: I've answered everybody's questions. You know, the colonics and the enemas,
43:24
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say they're not good for you.
43:26
Speaker 1: I think that has provided a lot of good benefits
43:28
Speaker 1: for people. I think I'm just too chicken to do one.
43:31
Speaker 1: But I have had people who have talked about in
43:34
Speaker 1: healing certain types of medical conditions, some of those colonic enemas,
43:40
Speaker 1: the coffee enemas, I would say go to the experts
43:43
Speaker 1: who do them, talk with them, use them for the
43:46
Speaker 1: benefits that they feel they can provide. I'm also a
43:48
Speaker 1: big fan of muscle testing. I'm not an expert in
43:53
Speaker 1: any way doing it, but I've had it done and
43:56
Speaker 1: I've had other patients had it done. And I will
43:57
Speaker 1: tell you, muscle testing is technically where you take the
44:01
Speaker 1: item that you could have possibly an allergy to or
44:04
Speaker 1: a synergy to. And when you hold onto it or
44:07
Speaker 1: something of its components, it's usually in a glass bottle
44:10
Speaker 1: because of the conduction. And they will press and push
44:13
Speaker 1: and do certain things. And you'll be amazed. Like I
44:16
Speaker 1: first saw it, I thought it was fiction. But there's
44:18
Speaker 1: been a whole lot to it that I've seen. And
44:20
Speaker 1: I've been able to improve my health and my son,
44:22
Speaker 1: my youngest son. I told you I was doing that
44:24
Speaker 1: with him since he was a baby. It's phenomenal how
44:27
Speaker 1: accurate it really is to the human body. So look
44:29
Speaker 1: up muscle testing. Yeah. So I hope I've given you
44:34
Speaker 1: a lot of great stuff to kind of take home
44:36
Speaker 1: and chew on. If you guys have more questions next week,
44:39
Speaker 1: I'm going to continue this discussion in because I think
44:43
Speaker 1: we need to do a better job of learning how
44:45
Speaker 1: we can get what we want from what we pay
44:47
Speaker 1: for with our insurance companies, holding them accountable with our pharmacies,
44:52
Speaker 1: questioning why we're not getting what our providers prescribed and why,
44:57
Speaker 1: and taking ownership of your own mental health, your physical health,
45:01
Speaker 1: really reevaluating how hard is it going to be for
45:04
Speaker 1: you to shift your eating? How hard is it going
45:06
Speaker 1: to be for you to improve your hydration? And how
45:09
Speaker 1: hard is it going to be for you to incorporate
45:11
Speaker 1: some movement into your life? Do you want to feel better?
45:14
Speaker 1: If you want to feel better, then take it from
45:17
Speaker 1: someone who, you know, practices this on a regular basis.
45:21
Speaker 1: And from someone who has sampled things that I probably
45:25
Speaker 1: shouldn't have sampled, I'm talking about the cinnamon bun, you know,
45:30
Speaker 1: do you want to celebrate and have a birthday cake? Yeah,
45:32
Speaker 1: go for it. But you will, your body will, you know,
45:36
Speaker 1: produce what it's going to produce. As far as anti
45:39
Speaker 1: inflammation goes, I will talk more about ways to work
45:43
Speaker 1: with anti inflammatory type things next week. You're welcome to
45:47
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46:01
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46:04
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46:19
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46:21
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46:24
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46:27
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46:29
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46:41
Speaker 1: been a pleasure. I really appreciated all the questions today.
46:45
Speaker 1: Come back next Thursday, 3 PM. We're going to expand
46:48
Speaker 1: from here. Maybe you'll have questions that you're thinking about
46:51
Speaker 1: between now and next week. I look forward to seeing
46:53
Speaker 1: you all again, have a great and wonderful weekend and
46:56
Speaker 1: Be well, stay healthy, make the most of your day,
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Speaker 1: clean up your nutrition. I'll talk to you next week. Bye-bye.