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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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Speaker 1: ignition with the AW fan podcast team. This is Kelson
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Speaker 1: and this is Alex.
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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of news in the past week
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Speaker 2: since since we last had our podcast, and I think
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Speaker 2: we're gonna start with the freshest piece of news, not
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Speaker 2: the most exciting, but the newest news in aew land,
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Speaker 2: which is they just announced the new show. I believe
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Speaker 2: it's starting on Saturday, after Collision, and it's ae w Overdrive.
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Speaker 2: He had t Overdrive And Okay, yeah, weird that they.
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Speaker 1: Named the TNT Overdrive, you know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because it kind of implies that he is
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Speaker 2: trying to like synergize a little bit with AW. Imagine that, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and I mean that. I think there was also a
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Speaker 2: little piece of news or maybe just reporting on the
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Speaker 2: fact that the month of July had passed, but that
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Speaker 2: aw's exclusive negotiating window with with TNT, well Warner Brothers
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Speaker 2: Discovery had passed. This kind of seems like, well, you're
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Speaker 2: announcing new shows, you know, that seems a little bit
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Speaker 2: promising for a continuation of their partnership.
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Speaker 1: But I think Warner Brothers Discovery is doing their quarterly
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Speaker 1: like not their I don't know how to explain it.
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Speaker 1: It's like they're quarterly figures. They're discussing their four quarterly
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Speaker 1: figures out of comfortence. So there is a chance that
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Speaker 1: we may hear news tomorrow. The call is at four
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Speaker 1: point thirty Eastern time. Oh, there is a chance that
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Speaker 1: we may hear some news about a new deal tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: I doubt it, but there is a chance. But back
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Speaker 1: to Overdrive, Yeah, this is this is you know, it
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Speaker 1: seems like from what I've understand, Alex, it's a show
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Speaker 1: that has like adrenaline clips, you know, people doing things
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Speaker 1: out of the ordinary, exciting adrenaline field and AW wrestlers
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Speaker 1: will be commenting on the clips as or after they're shown.
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Speaker 1: So that's where the AW park comes in. Originally, when
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Speaker 1: they announced it, it was kind of ambiguous the way the
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Speaker 1: announced them, you know, and it was like it was
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Speaker 1: gonna be AW wrestlers doing these adrenaline stuff. I'm like
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Speaker 1: Darby Allen basically, you know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not that it's like people send in
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Speaker 2: clips are they gower YouTube for dangerous clips of people
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Speaker 2: almost dying? And it sounds kind of like a Spike
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Speaker 2: TV show from back in the day type of thing.
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Speaker 1: I wonder we'll have some original content made specifically for
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Speaker 1: it too. You know, that could very well happen.
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Speaker 3: That's gonna be weird.
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Speaker 4: Reminds me of an MTV show that with Rob Dearde
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Speaker 4: that he had clips and stuff and they all commented
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Speaker 4: on and stuff like that. That's what it kind of
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Speaker 4: reminds me. I don't know the name of it, but
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Speaker 4: it's Ridiculousness.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.
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Speaker 1: I'd be hi. No, I just thought that because the
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Speaker 1: never mind.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't sound like a show that you're gonna
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Speaker 2: DVR or need to tune in for, but it also
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Speaker 2: sounds like something that you could have in the background
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Speaker 2: that I don't know.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of weird.
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Speaker 1: It may be fun. It may be fun.
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Speaker 5: Hey, I love Ridiculousness. That was one of my favorite
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Speaker 5: shows for the longest time, and so I got rid
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Speaker 5: of my cable and now you can go on YouTube
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Speaker 5: and watch they have a.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes though, you'll find a.
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Speaker 5: Live version on YouTube that's just nothing but streaming Ridiculousness stuff. So,
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Speaker 5: you know, it could be a lot of fun. It's
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Speaker 5: just going to depend on where they get the clips
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Speaker 5: from and how over the top, they.
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Speaker 4: Go, well, yeah, people like Orange Cassidy commenting and stat
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Speaker 4: Land or people like that who are naturally funny commenting
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Speaker 4: on it. I think it'll be a good way for
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Speaker 4: people to get to know AWS was on a different
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Speaker 4: basis and just wrestling.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, m hm, and I guess just from TNT's perspective,
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Speaker 2: this is a good way to keep the AW audience
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Speaker 2: potentially watching another half hour hour of TV.
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Speaker 1: Well, the other more important thing is that these clips
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Speaker 1: individually can show up on YouTube. You know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: because look at shows like America's Got Talent or Canada's
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Speaker 1: Got Talent, you'll see individual auditions being put on YouTube,
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Speaker 1: and you can also put these individual clips on YouTube
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Speaker 1: with the AW wrestler's reaction. What does that do? It
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Speaker 1: gets people invested in AW wrestlers in a different light.
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Speaker 1: And we'll be talking about something later that has another
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Speaker 1: AW wrestler that's going to be doing something that you
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Speaker 1: can see them in a different light. But let's move
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Speaker 1: on because we do have some other stuff that we
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Speaker 1: want to talk about. One of the biggest things that
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Speaker 1: I thought this was pretty interesting is that the news
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Speaker 1: came out from I believe it was Russell purist that
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Speaker 1: broke it that the Luca Brothers, Ray, Phoenix, and Pentam
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Speaker 1: will be leaving a W once there their contracts are
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Speaker 1: up and moving to WWE. Uh. But interestingly, and this
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Speaker 1: is what I found interesting, a W has a thing
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Speaker 1: that they do, and we discussed this a couple three
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Speaker 1: weeks ago, UH called a w timelines where they go
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Speaker 1: through an entire career of a w wrestlers. I note
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Speaker 1: that they've done, for example, Julia Hart and they covered her,
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Speaker 1: covered her from her first match ever in Darker Dark
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Speaker 1: Elevation all the way up until her last match. You know.
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Speaker 1: At the time of the release of the episode, well
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Speaker 1: today at noon Eastern time, they were lea East A
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Speaker 1: premiered live a timeline aw timeline episode of the Lucha Brothers.
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Speaker 1: And the reason why that's interesting is that they have
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Speaker 1: since taken that video down. It's now private.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when it first came out, I was like, you know,
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Speaker 2: I even made a post about it on aw fan Hub.
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Speaker 1: I said, you know, why would they put this on
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Speaker 1: here if they're going to WWE. So frankly, when I
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Speaker 1: saw that episode, and I did watch a little bit
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Speaker 1: of it, you know, it was definitely there and like
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Speaker 1: I said, it's now gone. It's private, but you could
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Speaker 1: definitely watch it at New and Eastern time. I think
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Speaker 1: I started watching it about twelve fifteen. But anyway, why
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Speaker 1: would they put that episode on if they were going
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Speaker 1: to WW And I was thinking, well, that whole report
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Speaker 1: was just full of shit. And I was like, okay,
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Speaker 1: well the Luca brothers are staying because nobody stupid enough
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Speaker 1: to put it on on YouTube this big like a
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Speaker 1: these shows are like two and a half hours long,
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Speaker 1: you know, let's and then they took it down. So
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Speaker 1: I went from older, well they're definitely not going. It
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Speaker 1: was like, well, they took it down, so they're definitely going.
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Speaker 5: Now my question comes in is I've seen the same
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Speaker 5: thing from about fifteen different sources, but not one single
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Speaker 5: source that I would recall.
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Speaker 1: Relaable are the only one that I Brian Alvarez confirmed it.
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Speaker 5: Okay, because at first when I saw that, then I
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Speaker 5: saw that they had done some new trademarks.
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Speaker 3: You know, they went out and did some.
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Speaker 1: New That was last week they did that.
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Speaker 5: But I started thinking, well, are they basing this because
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Speaker 5: these guys went out and got some new names. Is
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Speaker 5: that why they're saying that so, like I said, I
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Speaker 5: didn't seen it, Brian, he was part of the only
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Speaker 5: one I haven't seen because I've seen it everywhere else
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Speaker 5: every time I go on to Reddit if somebody's got
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Speaker 5: something new.
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Speaker 3: Lucire Brothers are going to WWE, but I just I
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Speaker 3: don't know.
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Speaker 5: I just don't see a reason why they would want
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Speaker 5: to do that, because that limits them they can go.
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Speaker 3: Anywhere they want to go.
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Speaker 5: I mean, they won't be able to participate in the
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Speaker 5: in the LOOTA stuff they do now, they won't be
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Speaker 5: able to participate in Triple A or I don't know
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Speaker 5: they still is WW still working with the other group,
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Speaker 5: the other LUTI group from down in Mexico.
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Speaker 2: I look, they could work with Triple A. I don't
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Speaker 2: know if they are.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that they were working with one of
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Speaker 5: them at one point in time. But like that's one
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Speaker 5: of the things that the Lucier Brothers are known for,
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Speaker 5: is going down and doing those other shows. And to me,
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Speaker 5: you know, I get the the fact that they want
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Speaker 5: to move on to something new that might be a
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Speaker 5: bit a step for them. But I from watching the
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Speaker 5: WWE and all the different things that we've seen them
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Speaker 5: and how they handle people. I think someone replied, I
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Speaker 5: don't know if it was you, keilsel or someone replied
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Speaker 5: to one of your posts about how they might have
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Speaker 5: seen how good Cody's doing in WWE and that might
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Speaker 5: want them to go there.
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Speaker 3: Not the same thing. They're Latinos.
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Speaker 5: Latinos in WWE are not well pushed in the first place,
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Speaker 5: So I don't know, this just seems like a really
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Speaker 5: weird thing.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't. Look, here's the thing with in my opinion,
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Speaker 1: it's more about if they're going to WWE, they maybe
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Speaker 1: getting bigger bank you never know. And the other thing
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Speaker 1: is is that maybe they don't want to travel at
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Speaker 1: do these indie shows, and I think they own their
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Speaker 1: own promotion or whatnot. Maybe WWE has made concessions to them.
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Speaker 1: Remember w W he is no longer owned by Vince
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Speaker 1: McMahon and run by John Laurinidis and Nick Kahn and
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Speaker 1: all that happy horseshit, you know. I mean, it's triple
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Speaker 1: H and endeavor, So we don't know how they're handling things.
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, they got Stephanie Veker, they got Julia,
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Speaker 1: so they're obviously doing something to draw people to the company,
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Speaker 1: which I think is fantastic, great, more power to them.
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Speaker 1: It's all about keeping the wrestler. Look, wrestlers are going
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Speaker 1: to wrestle, you know, and they're going to go out
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Speaker 1: and they're going to perform. And now you've got two
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Speaker 1: companies that are viable places for them to you know,
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Speaker 1: to perform, you know, and owner Craft and whatever. So
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Speaker 1: it is what it is. I mean, yeah, I'd.
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Speaker 2: Also say that like Lucer bros. Haven't been treated all
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Speaker 2: that well in the last year or longer in a
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Speaker 2: you know, Penta had that that now the international title
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Speaker 2: win by accident. He was not supposed to win that match.
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Speaker 2: I don't think you know Phoenix Phoenix, Yeah, sorry, that's
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Speaker 2: what I meant. Ray Phoenix. Yeah, he he had that
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Speaker 2: match where John Moxley got concussed and he ended up
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Speaker 2: winning the title. Tenta has pretty much been in the
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Speaker 2: the guy that loses matches on dynamite role for the
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Speaker 2: past year. LUs Phoenix has kind of been doing that
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Speaker 2: while he's not been injured. So if I was them,
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Speaker 2: I would see if I'm getting paid the same amount
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Speaker 2: to go into WWE, it might be like a fresh
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Speaker 2: start for them. I think Penta especially is a guy
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Speaker 2: that they could have done a lot more with in
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Speaker 2: a W in the time that they've had him, you know,
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Speaker 2: when they had that, like Penta oscuro thing and Alex
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Speaker 2: Abrahnt days dressed as the cripkeeper. I think things like
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Speaker 2: that are cool. Like in Luca Underground, he was the
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Speaker 2: guy that broke people's arms and he had he was
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Speaker 2: kind of the main character of that show in a.
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Speaker 3: Lot of ways.
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Speaker 2: And it hasn't really translated to AW as much as
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Speaker 2: I thought it would for him.
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Speaker 1: So I understand now, Alex, do you think that you know,
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Speaker 1: part of it has been Ray Phoenix has been injured
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Speaker 1: quite a bit the last year year.
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Speaker 3: And a half.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that is probably a big part
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Speaker 2: of it. That it's kind of been stop and start
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Speaker 2: for both of them because they want to do death
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Speaker 2: Triangle stuff and they want to do tag team stuff
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Speaker 2: with them and they can't because it's on and off.
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Speaker 2: But you know, Penta's been there for more and more
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Speaker 2: often than not, and it feels like he could have
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Speaker 2: done something in the meantime. You know, sometimes in AW,
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Speaker 2: they they have trouble pivoting when people are injured and
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Speaker 2: they don't spline.
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Speaker 1: I have a question to ask everybody. Do you think
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Speaker 1: that the Luca Brothers potentially leaving has to do somewhat
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Speaker 1: with We've talked about this before, aw's total apathy towards
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Speaker 1: the tag team event. Well, look, who are the tag
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Speaker 1: team champions right now? The Young Bucks. What was the
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Speaker 1: last time you saw the Young Bucks defend the championship?
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Speaker 1: That they have never?
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Speaker 5: They haven't defended it yet, And yeah, you might be right,
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Speaker 5: that could be one of the reasons why they're leaving.
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Speaker 5: Although the tag team division in ww's not all that great,
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Speaker 5: they me would probably be the top tag team aid
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Speaker 5: in WWE immediately.
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Speaker 1: But again I will by saying I just want to
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Speaker 1: back that up by saying, you know that I have
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Speaker 1: the Greatness of Wrestling subreddit, which is more centered on WWE,
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Speaker 1: and there have been many posts just saying is it
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Speaker 1: me or is the w w E tag team division
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Speaker 1: total crap right now? So if you if you put
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Speaker 1: the two tag team divisions together, they've probably had more.
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Speaker 5: Any other kind of match matches in the last year
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Speaker 5: combined than tag team matches, and both of them combined,
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Speaker 5: there's just it's just not happening. But again, the injuries
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Speaker 5: have been a huge portion of this, and I'm not
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Speaker 5: sure you know, we can sit there and go, well,
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Speaker 5: they want to use them for the Trios, T team
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Speaker 5: with the Death Triangle or the tag team division, and
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Speaker 5: Pentom may not have wanted to be a solo guy,
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Speaker 5: but the problem he falls into then is he's just
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Speaker 5: one of how many guys do they have that are
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Speaker 5: that are capable of putting on massive shows or massive
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Speaker 5: matches and people are getting lost in the in the
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Speaker 5: in the shuffle unfortunately.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. I'm gonna say that I
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Speaker 4: think WWE fans will eat them. I think Cody put
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Speaker 4: in a good word for them Triple H, and I
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Speaker 4: think Triple H really looks to Cody's for some guidance
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Speaker 4: on people like that. But they'll do great. I don't
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Speaker 4: think they need to be a tag team. I think
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Speaker 4: Penta by himself is a star. I don't know that
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Speaker 4: Phoenix in in my opinion as much as Penta is.
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Speaker 4: But I think they'll do good. I hope they don't
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Speaker 4: get stuck in the Luke to Vortex that is Speed
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Speaker 4: Championship and stuff like that, but I think they'll do
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Speaker 4: just just buying over there.
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Speaker 1: And I'll throw one other thing out there. Look at Hologram.
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Speaker 1: He comes in and he is so much more over
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Speaker 1: that Ray, Phoenix and Penta are right now, and that
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Speaker 1: has to be you know, stabbed to the ego. The
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Speaker 1: new guy comes in and he's over. I mean it happens.
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Speaker 1: You know, the new toy is always going to be
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Speaker 1: the best toy until you get tired of the new
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Speaker 1: toy and they just become an old toy. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And that's what's kind of great about the fact that
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Speaker 2: we have these two companies because they could leave AW
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Speaker 2: and come back two years later, three years later and
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Speaker 2: they're better than ever. Everyone's super excited to see them again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely saw Alex. Let's move on and what
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Speaker 1: do you want to talk about next?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, you know some of the drama and this
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Speaker 2: has been ongoing for the last week, but britt Baker
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Speaker 2: was suspended after an altercation with MJF backstage. Not a
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Speaker 2: physical fight, but I guess they were arguing and apparently
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Speaker 2: during MJF and will Osprey's hour long match, britt Baker
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Speaker 2: was in the female locker room talking trash about both
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Speaker 2: MJF and will ospray and take this with a grain
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Speaker 2: of salt. This is just you know, wrestling dirt sheet reporting,
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Speaker 2: So it could be completely false, but I think for
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Speaker 2: sure Britt Baker has been suspended. But anyway, so she
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Speaker 2: was talking badly about their match, their hour long match,
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Speaker 2: possibly because they were taking time away from other people
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Speaker 2: in AW. Mjf's girlfriend, Alicia Taut was also in the
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Speaker 2: woman's locker room hearing Britt Baker talk trash about MJF.
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Speaker 2: She ended up telling him afterwards, and then he confronted
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Speaker 2: brit Baker and after confronting her, ended up punching a
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Speaker 2: wall or something, and Britt Baker ended up getting suspended
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Speaker 2: because she was not Not only was she mad with MJF,
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Speaker 2: she was also mad at Alicia Teut I guess for
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Speaker 2: telling MJF.
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Speaker 1: It was mat at will Osbury too, according to reports.
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Speaker 1: But but and I'm going to say this is a
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Speaker 1: big butt. Let me make two points here. Number one,
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Speaker 1: none of us were here, were there, So anything we
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Speaker 1: say about it as far as the opinions of MJF,
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Speaker 1: Britt Baker, will Osprey, Alicia Taut his total bullshit and
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Speaker 1: made up porseshit, honest to god. Second thing is is that,
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Speaker 1: according to the reports, a lot of people are saying, well,
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Speaker 1: why didn't MGF get suspended for punching a wall and
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Speaker 1: going into the women's locker room. The reports are that
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Speaker 1: MJF did punch the wall. No, he made a point
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Speaker 1: of walking down the hall where nobody was around and
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Speaker 1: he punched the wall. Back then at that time, when
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Speaker 1: he went into the women's locker room, he knocked. He
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Speaker 1: was invited in, so he didn't just barge in, you know.
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Speaker 1: So that is something that was in the reports. You know,
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Speaker 1: everything else that, like Alex said, is basically true about
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Speaker 1: what brit Baker allegedly said. Uh. And before we get
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Speaker 1: into everybody else's uh uh bit talking on Britt Baker,
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Speaker 1: which I'm sure it's gonna happen, totally off topic, but
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Speaker 1: uh also off topic breaking news that was just released
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Speaker 1: recently about Britt Baker. She is now part of the
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Speaker 1: cast on the final season of Cobra Tie on Netflix,
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Speaker 1: which is great news because again that gets aw exposure
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Speaker 1: in the mainstream, which is what is really needed. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so what is everybody else's opinion on the Britt Baker MGF.
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Speaker 1: Will Osprey is part of this too at Alice shuts
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Speaker 1: out thing.
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Speaker 3: So so my take on. This is the same as
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Speaker 3: it's always going to be and it didn't change.
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Speaker 5: Okay, here's here, here's here's the reality of the situation.
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Speaker 5: Britt Baker, according to what I've read from everybody that
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Speaker 5: was the things that are going around, was complaining because
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Speaker 5: it's taking time away from her. Okay, she's pissed off
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Speaker 5: because MJF and them got a whole hour of a
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Speaker 5: show and she didn't get to be on TV, Which
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Speaker 5: comes back to what I've said about her from the beginning.
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Speaker 5: She has this attitude that she she believes the hype
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Speaker 5: that she is the women's division. She has no qualms
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Speaker 5: about claiming and believing the claims that she makes. My
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Speaker 5: argument for that is for a year she's been gone
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Speaker 5: and the division got five to ten times better than
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Speaker 5: when she was there.
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Speaker 1: That's fair. But I do want to point out something
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Speaker 1: to you that at no report that I read, she
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Speaker 1: was upset that MJF and will Osprey got an hour,
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Speaker 1: but she never said anything about that's taking a time
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Speaker 1: away from me.
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Speaker 5: Well, she was gonna talk about it, That's what The
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Speaker 5: first the first report that I saw about this when
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Speaker 5: before we it came out last week, was that was
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Speaker 5: what it was about. She was complaining backstage because she's
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Speaker 5: unhappy that she's back and she's not getting any time,
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Speaker 5: which that's that's how she's always been. She thinks that
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Speaker 5: that's about her and that she's there she should be
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Speaker 5: above everybody else.
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Speaker 3: But that's just how she's always been.
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Speaker 5: They had a what was the show they did for
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Speaker 5: a little while after.
22:31
Speaker 3: Dynamite where they were.
22:34
Speaker 1: Years ago?
22:35
Speaker 5: Okay, the that is she made that show about her.
22:42
Speaker 5: If you go back and watch that show, every show
22:45
Speaker 5: was about Britt Baker.
22:48
Speaker 3: And and that was one of the things. It all
22:52
Speaker 3: came down to the same thing.
22:55
Speaker 1: No bearing on what happened. She didn't get she did
22:58
Speaker 1: not get. She did not get uh suspended for she
23:06
Speaker 1: got two years ago.
23:08
Speaker 5: She got suspended because she she got suspended because she
23:12
Speaker 5: went up against the baby face of the of the company.
23:17
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw something out. I'm gonna throw something else
23:19
Speaker 1: at you when I say you, I want to. I
23:22
Speaker 1: want to make this clear that I want everybody to
23:25
Speaker 1: hear this and everybody who have a chance to respond. Saturday,
23:31
Speaker 1: we had a w w E pay per view What
23:35
Speaker 1: are ther Bigger Ones of the year Summer Slam what's
23:39
Speaker 1: the best way to take attention away from SummerSlam? Put
23:42
Speaker 1: it on a w because a w knew that they
23:46
Speaker 1: weren't going to get a whole hell of a lot
23:47
Speaker 1: of exposure on Collision because they had it going on
23:51
Speaker 1: the same day as Summer Slam at a horrible time slot,
23:55
Speaker 1: you know, at five PM, you know, middle of the
23:59
Speaker 1: afternoon on the web. You're not going to get any
24:01
Speaker 1: viewers that way. Matter of fact, when the ratings came out,
24:06
Speaker 1: they had one hundred and eighty nine thousand viewers, but frankly,
24:09
Speaker 1: I was expecting one hundred and fifty thousand. I was
24:11
Speaker 1: kind of shocked that they got more than that. But
24:16
Speaker 1: I will throw it out there that this was not
24:19
Speaker 1: a big deal and that any if AW people are
24:23
Speaker 1: listening to this, you know, they're probably like, well, we
24:27
Speaker 1: did our job, because they're talking about it.
24:29
Speaker 3: Still.
24:30
Speaker 1: I don't even think this even happened. I mean to
24:34
Speaker 1: be honest with I don't think this happened. I think
24:37
Speaker 1: this was something to take a little bit of attention
24:40
Speaker 1: and put it on AW. Would they do they were
24:43
Speaker 1: going to get any attention on SummerSlam weekend because because
24:46
Speaker 1: Rampage did crap collision did crap expected, but people were
24:52
Speaker 1: talking about AW. No. You know, bad press is better
24:57
Speaker 1: than no press at all. I honestly think that this
25:01
Speaker 1: was made a bigger deal than it really was.
25:06
Speaker 2: I can't imagine it was fake because I can't imagine
25:11
Speaker 2: AW want to have more locker room drama because they
25:16
Speaker 2: ever since all the cmpunk stuff, they've been just tied
25:21
Speaker 2: to locker room drama and it they want to get
25:25
Speaker 2: away from that as much as possible. This situation, though,
25:29
Speaker 2: is Yeah, I agree one hundred percent with Kelson, it's
25:32
Speaker 2: not a big deal. It's probably happened a million times
25:35
Speaker 2: in wrestling locker rooms that a talent has complained about
25:39
Speaker 2: another talent getting too much time. It probably happened at
25:44
Speaker 2: the same week multiple times at WWE and so on
25:47
Speaker 2: and so forth. Like that's like as story as old
25:50
Speaker 2: as time. It sounds like it blew up because there's
25:54
Speaker 2: maybe passed between MJF and Britt that's you know, they
25:59
Speaker 2: have the issues, and it is weird that it even
26:02
Speaker 2: got out. But maybe that's because of these wrestling journalists
26:08
Speaker 2: just wanting to cash in on AW drama.
26:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say that too. I agree it happened. I
26:18
Speaker 4: think it was overblown and done with by and it
26:22
Speaker 4: was quickly done with and no one would have known
26:24
Speaker 4: about it if this wasn't leaked by somebody. I don't
26:27
Speaker 4: know who leaked it to this guy, but it's not
26:32
Speaker 4: a big It is a big deal for me and
26:35
Speaker 4: the fact that Britt needs to realize that she's not
26:39
Speaker 4: what she thinks she is and you can't win for
26:42
Speaker 4: los and honestly, because you know you want ratings and
26:46
Speaker 4: you want a good match, and yet MJF and Osprey
26:50
Speaker 4: put on great matches, so why not have them there?
26:52
Speaker 4: What does it matter how how long they get, because
26:56
Speaker 4: the women's division is getting plenty and it's not around
27:00
Speaker 4: Britt Baker anymore, and it couldn't be. But I think
27:05
Speaker 4: maybe this helps him a little bit this weekend getting
27:09
Speaker 4: the news. But I think at some point they need
27:11
Speaker 4: to address Britt. They need to address how things are
27:15
Speaker 4: leaked and why things are leaked at some point because
27:18
Speaker 4: it's tiring of every time I turn around, you heart
27:22
Speaker 4: aw backstraight drama and somebody is leaking it to somebody,
27:26
Speaker 4: And it blows my mind that you don't hear this
27:29
Speaker 4: stuff about WWE, but you all the time hear about
27:33
Speaker 4: aw and I wonder why that is.
27:36
Speaker 1: Well, I will say this to UMK. The person that
27:39
Speaker 1: leaked this is very likely the same person that busted
27:43
Speaker 1: into the conference room at the airport in Narlington, Texas
27:46
Speaker 1: and took that picture of Shane McMahon and Tony Kahn.
27:50
Speaker 1: Because that's what Tony Cohn said. Somebody just busted in
27:53
Speaker 1: the room and took a picture. It was his words,
27:55
Speaker 1: I was diying lapping only to k could say that.
27:59
Speaker 1: I don't know. But anyway, anybody else anything that's say
28:02
Speaker 1: before we move on. So, speaking of Tony, let's talk
28:09
Speaker 1: about this Tony Khan and Shane McMahon meeting, because Tony
28:14
Speaker 1: Khan did speak to ESPN Los Angeles and told them
28:20
Speaker 1: what was said in the meeting. And I'm going to
28:23
Speaker 1: read a very brief I'm not going to reread the
28:25
Speaker 1: whole thing, but I'm gonna read an excerpt from what
28:28
Speaker 1: Tony Khan said. All right, and I'm reading, so this
28:33
Speaker 1: takes a while, so I'm gonna do this. Okay, Ready,
28:35
Speaker 1: here we go.
28:37
Speaker 6: He is a very smart person with about wrestling, and
28:41
Speaker 6: I thought he was a great guy. We have a
28:43
Speaker 6: lot of mutual friends and we both happen to be
28:46
Speaker 6: in Dallas. A mutual friend linked us up who is
28:49
Speaker 6: one of the bigger wrestlers our names in wrestling, and
28:52
Speaker 6: that friend put us on a.
28:54
Speaker 1: Group chat that was my over hyped, over enthusiastic in
28:59
Speaker 1: person of Tony Kahn saying anything.
29:02
Speaker 6: It's like, hey, honey, could you give me some toilet
29:05
Speaker 6: paper in the bathroom?
29:07
Speaker 1: You know kind of thing. You know, it's just party.
29:10
Speaker 1: Conn just drives me insane. The way he talks is
29:13
Speaker 1: I love to death, but he gets more excited about
29:16
Speaker 1: the dumbest shit I've ever seen in my life. But yeah,
29:19
Speaker 1: so anyway, and then he did further on to go
29:22
Speaker 1: go on to say uh and this is the part
29:25
Speaker 1: that got me. You know, clearly there was a lot
29:28
Speaker 1: of interest in it. Somebody in the middle of talking
29:31
Speaker 1: in an airport conference room, somebody just boasted it, busted
29:35
Speaker 1: in and took a photo. And I'm thinking to myself,
29:39
Speaker 1: so he just busted They didn't Can somebody come and
29:43
Speaker 1: take a photo because it was for us? Just whatever?
29:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what you were saying about the brit story
29:52
Speaker 2: getting being leaked on purpose, this story was definitely leaked one.
30:02
Speaker 3: I mean, you you.
30:06
Speaker 1: Know, Shane McMahon also said made a little bit of
30:09
Speaker 1: a statement. I don't have it in front of me,
30:10
Speaker 1: but he basically said the same thing. You know, just
30:13
Speaker 1: two guys talking wrestling, you know, and having fun. You
30:17
Speaker 1: know they had a mutual friend was probably Mercedes Bonett
30:20
Speaker 1: because we know that Mercedes Bonet talked to Shane McMahon
30:23
Speaker 1: at the airport.
30:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't see him coming to AW. I don't
30:28
Speaker 4: think we ao you needs him particularly. He's fun to
30:33
Speaker 4: have around, fun to get some ideas from. But past that,
30:37
Speaker 4: I think it was just they just need to proof
30:40
Speaker 4: because no one believed it. So that photo was what
30:43
Speaker 4: it was. That like, shut up that this happened and
30:48
Speaker 4: we're down with it.
30:49
Speaker 1: Meant, look, Shane's not going to be a wrestler. If
30:52
Speaker 1: he came to AW, would not be a wrestler. He'll
30:55
Speaker 1: probably not being part of creative. If anything, he would
30:58
Speaker 1: just be one of those guys who portray somebody who's
31:02
Speaker 1: part of creative, you know, like a general manager or
31:08
Speaker 1: something like that, even though he has no power whatsoever
31:11
Speaker 1: other than kfabe. But here's the thing, if Shane McMahon
31:16
Speaker 1: came to AW, it would definitely get some views. It
31:23
Speaker 1: would definitely have some legitimate name recognition at the AAW
31:29
Speaker 1: because a McMahon and AAW or any company outside of
31:33
Speaker 1: WWE is a big deal. You know, AW could stand
31:38
Speaker 1: to do something to rile things up. Even if it
31:43
Speaker 1: doesn't you know, pan out over a long term. Even
31:49
Speaker 1: if Shane McMahon signed a three month contract, it would
31:53
Speaker 1: still be something to get people to watch the show
31:57
Speaker 1: and maybe get retained as watching the show. I'll say about.
32:02
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, I think it kind of reminds me a
32:05
Speaker 2: lot of them showing the backstage clip with see Him Punk,
32:10
Speaker 2: and I think that, you know, in the end was
32:14
Speaker 2: a positive for them. It was controversial, but it brought
32:18
Speaker 2: us to the show and they also made it into
32:22
Speaker 2: a great angle and it did great for Jack Perry.
32:27
Speaker 2: Bringing Shane McMahon. Yeah, there's a bad taste in my
32:30
Speaker 2: mouth just because of his father and because you know,
32:35
Speaker 2: there was some rumors of him being kind of egomaniac
32:40
Speaker 2: in some of his later days in WWE. But yeah,
32:44
Speaker 2: I think it could be really good if they handle
32:47
Speaker 2: it well. And I you know, he wouldn't be brought
32:50
Speaker 2: in right away to work backstage as a producer or
32:54
Speaker 2: a writer or something, but he could end up if
32:57
Speaker 2: he's with AW for a while, he could become more
33:00
Speaker 2: and more involved over time. You know, it's a big risk,
33:06
Speaker 2: but I think there could potentially be a lot of
33:09
Speaker 2: positives from it.
33:10
Speaker 1: I'll think it. It's a big risk because as soon
33:12
Speaker 1: as Shane mcmanca when CM punk had his hap, When
33:17
Speaker 1: AW aired the backstage footage of CM punk and Jack
33:21
Speaker 1: Perry and all that that happened with Samoa Joe and
33:24
Speaker 1: County Kahn or whatever, it got the best ratings at
33:29
Speaker 1: the time of any recent shows. But they aired that
33:37
Speaker 1: and WWE fans were coming onto the AW fan I'm
33:41
Speaker 1: saw Breddit saying things like, well, you needed CM punk
33:46
Speaker 1: to come back and to get those ratings, And I'm
33:49
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, so.
33:53
Speaker 7: Seriously, So the biggest thing you have to worry about
33:57
Speaker 7: with Shane is the well, the thing that that they
34:01
Speaker 7: don't have to worry about him is I don't think
34:03
Speaker 7: he is at all tied end to his father's mistakes.
34:08
Speaker 3: That's a good thing because if that was a.
34:11
Speaker 5: Problem, if there was any kind of link there at all,
34:15
Speaker 5: or thought of a link there, that would be a
34:17
Speaker 5: bad thing. The ones I find the funniest there are
34:20
Speaker 5: the plans of the new stable that Seam is going
34:24
Speaker 5: to bring with him. God, yeah, I mean it's I've
34:28
Speaker 5: seen a different one every day.
34:31
Speaker 1: It's going to preposterous.
34:35
Speaker 2: Best ones.
34:37
Speaker 3: What's that?
34:37
Speaker 2: What are the best ones?
34:39
Speaker 1: Just every w w W wrestler and that's the best ones.
34:44
Speaker 5: The best one I saw was that he was bringing
34:46
Speaker 5: Shame Seamus and uh the other guy, the Scottish guy
34:53
Speaker 5: I can't think of his name right now, Maken Tire,
34:57
Speaker 5: and they were going to team up and it was
34:58
Speaker 5: going to be those two and they were gonna have
35:01
Speaker 5: I mean, I've seen every member of the a WWE
35:06
Speaker 5: roster coming to the ae.
35:08
Speaker 1: W Irish Irish No.
35:14
Speaker 3: No, no, no.
35:15
Speaker 1: It's just like there are literally articles written by these
35:21
Speaker 1: click bait. The big thing about.
35:23
Speaker 5: It, yeah one with me with with Drew McIntyre is
35:26
Speaker 5: his contract is actually in dispute right now. They haven't
35:29
Speaker 5: he hasn't been re signed yet, so he's still kind
35:33
Speaker 5: of floating. So there could be a chance he could
35:35
Speaker 5: come anyway. But it's just if you go out and.
35:38
Speaker 3: What if you look it up on look it up
35:40
Speaker 3: on eight.
35:41
Speaker 5: On YouTube, and I swear to god, you'll see a
35:43
Speaker 5: thousand videos and it's abously just google it too.
35:48
Speaker 1: But look, I'm gonna say this, this is since here.
35:52
Speaker 1: If McMahon does come to a W no one from
35:58
Speaker 1: w W E is jumping no one not for shave
36:04
Speaker 1: mc now if somebody's contract expires. But I don't think man,
36:11
Speaker 1: even if Shae McMahon had a long term contract, sure
36:14
Speaker 1: he may say, you know, just look. The one thing
36:17
Speaker 1: I will say about Shaye McMann is, I've never heard
36:20
Speaker 1: anything really bad about Shaye McMahon. His father is a
36:23
Speaker 1: dirt bag, but you can't hold that against his son.
36:26
Speaker 4: No.
36:27
Speaker 5: Well, I've heard some I've heard some things about him
36:30
Speaker 5: from people who have been there, but it's it's like
36:33
Speaker 5: everything else, it's hearsay. You don't know, you don't know
36:35
Speaker 5: what's happening, you don't know what kind of a person
36:37
Speaker 5: he is. Everything I've ever seen from Shane shame seems
36:41
Speaker 5: like he.
36:42
Speaker 3: Knows what he's doing. The biggest thing from me wanting
36:45
Speaker 3: to see him.
36:45
Speaker 5: In a W is he if he came in and
36:49
Speaker 5: was able to help Tony work out some of the
36:51
Speaker 5: issues he has with being able to pivot when there's
36:55
Speaker 5: an injury or change something up when something happens. We
37:00
Speaker 5: all know he doesn't do well if at all, you know,
37:04
Speaker 5: that might be something. I mean, Shane's got a lot
37:06
Speaker 5: of pluses that he could bring to ae W.
37:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think he was that involved in
37:11
Speaker 1: the backstage politics, productioned booking, creative.
37:16
Speaker 2: WW as much as maybe fifteen even twenty years ago.
37:22
Speaker 2: But yeah, recently, definitely not at all.
37:24
Speaker 3: But the thing is, it doesn't matter if it was
37:27
Speaker 3: twenty years ago. It's still experienced that.
37:30
Speaker 5: I love Tony to death, but Tony doesn't have that
37:33
Speaker 5: same experience, you know what I mean. He's been doing
37:35
Speaker 5: this for five years. It's been a lifelong dream of his,
37:39
Speaker 5: but his inexperience at handling a wrestling wrestling company shows
37:45
Speaker 5: at times when you have things happen, like when you
37:50
Speaker 5: have Bigger getting hurt and the title being out there,
37:54
Speaker 5: or when you have you know, stat Lander getting hurt
37:58
Speaker 5: and keep being a title on somebody forever to keep
38:01
Speaker 5: your plan going when you could have done something in
38:03
Speaker 5: between that time.
38:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.
38:06
Speaker 5: And Shane has the experience, so that would be a
38:09
Speaker 5: plus to AW by far if that's what happens. But again,
38:15
Speaker 5: it's like everything else, we have no idea what they've
38:17
Speaker 5: talked about.
38:18
Speaker 1: And then the one of one of the things that
38:21
Speaker 1: I can say honestly is that in the last year,
38:24
Speaker 1: I mean party Conn has brought in Will Washington, He's
38:30
Speaker 1: brought in Jen Pepperman, and things have really, really, really
38:35
Speaker 1: been better since they've been here. So adding somebody like
38:38
Speaker 1: Shane McMahon, who, if nothing else, has been backstage in
38:42
Speaker 1: that wrestling business, and even if he did nothing but listen,
38:45
Speaker 1: he's still learned a lot.
38:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Vince was Although Vince had his issues,
38:52
Speaker 5: wrestling would not be the same today if it wasn't
38:55
Speaker 5: for Vince. I mean, you can, you can hold everything
38:57
Speaker 5: against him you want to hold against him.
38:59
Speaker 3: But he put wrestling where it is now.
39:02
Speaker 7: Even though he was an idiot most of the time,
39:04
Speaker 7: he still did more for wrestling than anybody else has
39:07
Speaker 7: ever done.
39:08
Speaker 3: So you know, if if you take if you.
39:12
Speaker 5: Are your father is the greatest cook in the world,
39:16
Speaker 5: and you are in that kitchen with him all the time,
39:19
Speaker 5: there's a chance you're gonna pick something up, you know
39:21
Speaker 5: what I mean?
39:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's what I just said.
39:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, in like yeah, from a story perspective, Yeah, I
39:32
Speaker 2: don't know if he really needs to even bring anything,
39:34
Speaker 2: but from how to manage backstage personalities stuff like that.
39:39
Speaker 2: That's where I could see his value more. And I
39:42
Speaker 2: don't know if that's something he'd be good at. He
39:45
Speaker 2: might be one of those personalities that needs to be
39:48
Speaker 2: managed if he's backstage and aw, so you know, I
39:52
Speaker 2: don't know.
39:53
Speaker 1: Good point, you don't know. Yeah, that really is a
39:55
Speaker 1: good point.
39:56
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
40:01
Speaker 1: Well, okay, did you have anything you wanted to say
40:04
Speaker 1: about this?
40:06
Speaker 4: No, it's all hearsay.
40:07
Speaker 1: It's yeah, there you go, kind of like the whole
40:11
Speaker 1: Britt Baker and MGF things. It's all here saying brothers
40:15
Speaker 1: talk about a lot of hearsay. So yeah, what's next
40:19
Speaker 1: on the hearsay list?
40:21
Speaker 2: What's on the dirt sheets?
40:22
Speaker 1: Uh?
40:23
Speaker 2: Okay, So we had, uh, there's not much to this,
40:27
Speaker 2: but we had powerhouse. Hobbes tweeted don't call it a
40:31
Speaker 2: comeback and a picture of himself with the Book of Hobbes.
40:35
Speaker 2: So it sounds like he could be returning soon and
40:38
Speaker 2: I hope. So, yeah, I'll say this, I'm pretty excited
40:43
Speaker 2: about him returning for sure. I know we've talked about
40:46
Speaker 2: it recently, like Lance Archer and Brian Cage and how
40:50
Speaker 2: aw hasn't really had a big guy that's in the
40:55
Speaker 2: championship picture or could be the top aw world champion,
41:00
Speaker 2: And he's like the one guy that I would hope
41:03
Speaker 2: they could change that for because he seems like a
41:07
Speaker 2: guy that has all the tools, he has a great personality,
41:11
Speaker 2: and he could be a world champion one day.
41:14
Speaker 3: Yeah.
41:14
Speaker 1: You know one of the things that I've always said
41:16
Speaker 1: about Hobbs, and you could back me up on this, Alex,
41:19
Speaker 1: because I know that you and I have privately said
41:21
Speaker 1: this to each other. Hobbs strikes me as just an
41:24
Speaker 1: all round good dude. You know, you can't help but
41:27
Speaker 1: root for him. Sure, he plays the heel, but you
41:30
Speaker 1: can see behind the facade, you can see that he's
41:34
Speaker 1: probably in my mind, when I see Hobbs, I see
41:38
Speaker 1: a big teddy bear acting like a mean guy. I
41:41
Speaker 1: don't know if that makes much sense, but I just
41:44
Speaker 1: he just seems like he's probably the nicest guy in
41:47
Speaker 1: the locker room, and I can't help but root for Hobbs.
41:51
Speaker 1: Honest to god, I'd love to beat the guy and
41:54
Speaker 1: to spend the hangout with him, just to you know.
42:00
Speaker 5: If you see stories about him, that's what everybody says
42:02
Speaker 5: he's the big teddy bear, like you said, and hopefully
42:05
Speaker 5: if he does when he does come back, he can
42:08
Speaker 5: get run as a solo artist and let him do
42:11
Speaker 5: his thing. Don't put him in with the groups like
42:14
Speaker 5: they've been doing, because he's kind of falling into that
42:16
Speaker 5: a little bit, with the same thing that like other
42:20
Speaker 5: big guys have.
42:21
Speaker 1: Done this, we could never do anything outside of a group.
42:25
Speaker 1: And finally he said enough, And I think you're right
42:28
Speaker 1: to have Hobbs say enough. Get away from the don
42:31
Speaker 1: Kallis family, get away from Chris Jericho, get away from everybody.
42:35
Speaker 1: Just be powerhouse Hobbs.
42:38
Speaker 3: That would be awesome to see.
42:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've joked that AEW needs a super heavyweight division
42:47
Speaker 4: and where they could utilize guys like that, and I
42:49
Speaker 4: think Hobbs would be a great champion for that. They
42:51
Speaker 4: need that they have such big guys, but they don't,
42:55
Speaker 4: but Tony doesn't know how to use him and Hobbes.
42:58
Speaker 4: Cobbs has great but so he's had some good match
43:01
Speaker 4: He worked a good match with Sampunk when he was here,
43:04
Speaker 4: so I really him coming back will be great. So
43:10
Speaker 4: we'll see what happens. I'm not hopeful because I know
43:12
Speaker 4: how Tony Is, but we'll see.
43:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely an opportunity to hit the reset button,
43:21
Speaker 2: present him like a big deal and just let him
43:24
Speaker 2: do his thing.
43:28
Speaker 3: Anyways, we can move on.
43:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's move on. I'm actually really excited about this.
43:36
Speaker 1: As most of us know, Ada Jay is going to
43:40
Speaker 1: start them to compete in their five Star Grand Prix,
43:44
Speaker 1: which is a twenty one day tournament very similar to
43:49
Speaker 1: the Continental Classic in aw and the g One in
43:53
Speaker 1: New Japan, but it's one ty eight women in four
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Speaker 1: different brackets, two wins for two points for a win,
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Speaker 1: one point for the loss. The four top four get
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Speaker 1: into the into the into the semi finals, and the
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Speaker 1: winner of the Five Star Grand Prix gets a shot
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Speaker 1: at any title in stardom, and Anna J is part
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Speaker 1: of that. Now. Anna J pulled one of my favorite
44:26
Speaker 1: wrestlers in stardom SIIH and O Saori know as a
44:33
Speaker 1: first opponent, and that's gonna be taking place on August tenth.
44:37
Speaker 1: It'll be an early morning match. You can go on
44:40
Speaker 1: stardom Hyphenworld dot com and I believe they have a
44:45
Speaker 1: seven day free trial so you can watch at least
44:48
Speaker 1: the first week. Because like Anna J is gonna have
44:50
Speaker 1: like three matches in like at least two matches in
44:54
Speaker 1: that very first week, and there's a ton of matches
44:58
Speaker 1: that they're gonna be also good. But one person, one
45:02
Speaker 1: starter wrestler that announced that she will not be participating
45:09
Speaker 1: in the five Star Grand Prix is Mina Shirakawa. And
45:15
Speaker 1: she further announced and her quote was, Mina Shirakawa is
45:19
Speaker 1: spending her summer in America. Well guess what that means.
45:23
Speaker 1: That means Mina Shirakawa is coming to AEW and she
45:27
Speaker 1: is going to be a player. I would not be
45:29
Speaker 1: surprised to see her at all in She's I wouldn't
45:32
Speaker 1: be surprised to see her tomorrow night on Dynamite and look.
45:35
Speaker 1: But before we go any further, yes, Mina Shirakawa said
45:40
Speaker 1: that Mina Shirakawa is spending her summer in America. Yes,
45:45
Speaker 1: I know it's August and summer is winding down. Okay.
45:50
Speaker 1: I made this post on the aw fan Hub subreddit,
45:54
Speaker 1: and I hate to say this, but it's true. Every
45:56
Speaker 1: fucking idiot in the world made a comment about it
45:59
Speaker 1: being the is almost over. Who gives a ship.
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Speaker 2: Could be different?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 3: Like over.
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Speaker 2: In summer periods.
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Speaker 1: Right. I'm sorry for the language, but I mean, god
46:13
Speaker 1: damn it. I mean, are you guys death hard up
46:17
Speaker 1: for something in your life that you have to make
46:19
Speaker 1: a comment about something like that that who gives a
46:25
Speaker 1: ship go to hell up Jesus. But anyway, yeah, so,
46:34
Speaker 1: you know we were talking, you know, when this whole
46:37
Speaker 1: Mariah May Tony Storm Mina Shrikawa thing was going on
46:40
Speaker 1: and Mina lost the match to Tony Storm at Forbidden Door.
46:46
Speaker 1: We thought at that time that it wasn't over. It's
46:49
Speaker 1: not over, and I'm really excited to see me to
46:52
Speaker 1: share a Kawa And what the hell is she gonna do?
46:56
Speaker 1: Who's she going to side with? Would it be something?
46:59
Speaker 1: Is she sided with Tony Storm?
47:04
Speaker 3: Yeah?
47:04
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of what I've been thinking this
47:06
Speaker 2: whole time, ever since you know, Mina shir Kawa left
47:12
Speaker 2: knowing Mariah May was going to betray her at some point.
47:15
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. I think this this feud
47:23
Speaker 2: has kind of stagnated, in my opinion a little bit
47:28
Speaker 2: since the betrayal. It's been just a little bit lacking
47:34
Speaker 2: for me in terms of Mariah May's character. So I
47:41
Speaker 2: think that having Mina Shiri Kawa could be a huge
47:45
Speaker 2: boost to this, make it a lot more interesting.
47:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean we did see on Collision,
47:55
Speaker 1: the one hundred and eighty nine thousand people that watched
47:57
Speaker 1: it as I as I was one of them, we
48:00
Speaker 1: did see yeah that Toty Tony Storm had a match,
48:04
Speaker 1: a squash match, but Brian May was on commentary and
48:08
Speaker 1: Toty story came out. You were just made it b
48:10
Speaker 1: Lie to Maria bab beat out of her. So it
48:14
Speaker 1: was pretty impressive.
48:16
Speaker 4: Uh so I'm interested. Good, Yeah, sorry, I'm I'm interested
48:24
Speaker 4: in the next turn for what they have planned or
48:27
Speaker 4: uh for this view, it's been good, but they've been
48:31
Speaker 4: kind of for they're nothing at Simmer for a little bit.
48:35
Speaker 4: But now it's time to really turn turn at the
48:38
Speaker 4: Heat and and start getting them actually touching each other.
48:42
Speaker 4: I know that's kind of weird to say, but they
48:44
Speaker 4: haven't really gotten face to face yet that much, so
48:48
Speaker 4: I think that'll be interested in the promo working off
48:50
Speaker 4: of each other. But this this, in my opinion, I've
48:54
Speaker 4: said it for a while, these two should main event.
48:58
Speaker 1: All in, It's definitely more compelling match to be than
49:03
Speaker 1: Brian Danielson and swear Strickland right now.
49:07
Speaker 5: I'm kind of hoping that when she comes in that
49:10
Speaker 5: she does side with Tony, but to further the demise
49:14
Speaker 5: of the Tony Storm character, she turns on her it
49:18
Speaker 5: all In because the history is not there for her
49:22
Speaker 5: and Tony. The history's there with her and Mariah. So
49:27
Speaker 5: you know, this could lead to an even further destruction
49:33
Speaker 5: of the Tony Storm character. That could lead her to
49:35
Speaker 5: a total, complete meltdown. That would be interesting.
49:40
Speaker 1: I'm gonna argue with you and say that she's pretty
49:42
Speaker 1: much completely had a total complete belt out already. Yeah,
49:46
Speaker 1: but what is she gonna do? Start eating grab it
49:49
Speaker 1: in the ring? I mean you can go a lot.
49:52
Speaker 3: Of you can go a lot further with this.
49:54
Speaker 5: I mean there's a lot since it is taking that
49:56
Speaker 5: kind of uh mommy gears, all the different old movies
50:02
Speaker 5: that were like in this thing.
50:04
Speaker 3: There's a lot worse that she can do. A whole
50:06
Speaker 3: lot worse that she can do.
50:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, they also run the risk of making it look
50:10
Speaker 1: like a cartoon character and then losing the the fantasy
50:14
Speaker 1: of it, I guess. But look, all In is only
50:18
Speaker 1: like three weeks away, so it is so these next
50:26
Speaker 1: three weeks of especially the next two weeks of Dynamite,
50:30
Speaker 1: because after these next two Dynamites, the next Dynamite and
50:35
Speaker 1: Collision are going to be in in England. So uh yeah,
50:41
Speaker 1: so we're gonna probably find out who's over these next
50:45
Speaker 1: couple of weeks of Dynamite and Rampage and Collision, we're
50:48
Speaker 1: gonna probably find out who's actually going to be in
50:51
Speaker 1: all In and who's gonna be in Cardiff before at
50:54
Speaker 1: the Dynamite Collision before all In. Because don't get me wrong,
50:58
Speaker 1: these those shows in Cardiff in Cardiff are going to
51:03
Speaker 1: be very important because they're gonna be almost like pay
51:11
Speaker 1: per views before the pay per view kind of thing.
51:14
Speaker 1: That's the way they're gonna be received. They can't just
51:18
Speaker 1: go out there and throw they can't just go out there,
51:20
Speaker 1: and I don't believe they will. They can't go out
51:22
Speaker 1: to Cardiff and throw out you know, fock talk segments
51:27
Speaker 1: and squash matches. There's gonna be some meaningful matches there.
51:32
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see some announcements in the next
51:34
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, like let's do this match in Cardiff
51:37
Speaker 1: at you know it, you know, in two weeks. I
51:41
Speaker 1: think they're gonna make matches for Cardiff very soon, maybe
51:48
Speaker 1: even starting this week.
51:50
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah.
51:51
Speaker 2: It's kind of like them going to Canada for the
51:53
Speaker 2: first time because it's them going doing a dynamite outside
51:58
Speaker 2: of North America for the first time, right.
52:01
Speaker 1: Yeah.
52:02
Speaker 2: And it's also Whale, so I imagine Pac will be
52:05
Speaker 2: a big part of that because he's.
52:07
Speaker 1: Welsh, right.
52:14
Speaker 3: Yeah.
52:14
Speaker 2: I think it'll be a huge show. And I I
52:16
Speaker 2: know we have Kyle Fletcher versus m j F which
52:19
Speaker 2: is a big match only to me tomorrow. But his
52:24
Speaker 2: last name was flesh Light, Yeah, yeah, they changed it.
52:33
Speaker 1: Gotta love MGF with his he's just he's you know
52:37
Speaker 1: what FGF is right now, he's not He's not the
52:41
Speaker 1: scumbag that he used to be. He's literally an Internet troll.
52:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you see his entrance in in Mexico and
52:52
Speaker 2: Arena Mexico was beautiful.
52:55
Speaker 4: The whole thing.
52:57
Speaker 1: It's it's just it. It's just everything he did for
53:02
Speaker 1: Mexico is like his promos sitting in the ice tub,
53:06
Speaker 1: you know, and then his interview before the match was it.
53:13
Speaker 1: And Jeff just knows what he's doing and he's like
53:16
Speaker 1: a cartoon character at this point. But he still knows
53:18
Speaker 1: what he's doing.
53:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love he's He's literally the best thing in
53:25
Speaker 4: wrestling right now. I think I don't think it's Cody Rose.
53:27
Speaker 4: I think he's more maintaining than a lot of people
53:30
Speaker 4: get him credit for.
53:31
Speaker 1: But he's definitely want to hear what he has to say.
53:35
Speaker 4: Yeah. So have you guys heard about the collision Matt
53:41
Speaker 4: with Prazo versus Road and a bull rip a bull
53:45
Speaker 4: rope match. I think it's kind of interesting to see
53:48
Speaker 4: women get these type of matches. I don't think I've
53:51
Speaker 4: seen one of those types of matches before.
53:54
Speaker 1: A w has been really exploring those matches a lot
53:57
Speaker 1: more lately. Look at Layla Hershel Diamante at that before
54:02
Speaker 1: dishonor that was as some war mm yeah.
54:10
Speaker 4: Yeah. The bull rope match, I think.
54:16
Speaker 2: You gotta like touch all four corners and then in
54:18
Speaker 2: the opponent or something like that.
54:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe.
54:21
Speaker 5: So'st the risk by a bull rope by a rope
54:25
Speaker 5: and you have to touch consecutive corners, all four of
54:28
Speaker 5: them to win.
54:30
Speaker 3: That's that's the rules.
54:32
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
54:34
Speaker 4: So hopefully this but it's been a good one, but
54:38
Speaker 4: I think people have kind of it's been up and
54:41
Speaker 4: down because it's not constant, so you don't see it
54:43
Speaker 4: all the time. But it's been a pretty good view
54:45
Speaker 4: with those two.
54:48
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just don't know what the endgame is here,
54:51
Speaker 1: because I believe Prozzo is up three to one in
54:56
Speaker 1: their matches. So even if Russell wins this match, she's
55:00
Speaker 1: still behind. Does that mean we're gonna have a match
55:05
Speaker 1: for the tie it all in or a cardiff. I
55:09
Speaker 1: don't understand what the end The only end game I
55:11
Speaker 1: could think of happening here is that somehow, some way,
55:16
Speaker 1: something happens where Perozzo and Rosa end up as partners,
55:25
Speaker 1: kind of a throwback to the old uh Dusty Rhodes
55:28
Speaker 1: and Ole Anderson becoming unlikely partners for a while, to
55:32
Speaker 1: Goo gets Ivan and uh Nikita cole Off. I believe
55:36
Speaker 1: it was back in the old Georgia Championship Wrestling days.
55:40
Speaker 1: It was it was just so out there, and how
55:45
Speaker 1: are they going to do this? They're gonna make the
55:50
Speaker 1: AW Women's Tag Team Championship belt have a blind draw,
55:55
Speaker 1: and is gonna be Rosa and Frazzo. That's the only
55:58
Speaker 1: way that I can see this happening, and is be
56:01
Speaker 1: eerily reminiscent of the whole energy have an Adam Cole thing,
56:05
Speaker 1: but too polar opposites together and look how good that worked.
56:11
Speaker 1: If it ain't Britt Broke, don't fix it or whatever
56:14
Speaker 1: it is I sent that backwards. Dyslexi is a little thing.
56:18
Speaker 4: M h.
56:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, they could do a little tournament,
56:23
Speaker 2: a blind tag tournament for new women's tag title belts
56:27
Speaker 2: right after all in I think that could be pretty cool.
56:32
Speaker 2: And then of course all the teams will be super obvious,
56:36
Speaker 2: like it'll be Monet and Camille and so on and
56:40
Speaker 2: so forth.
56:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's a fame that sky blew with
56:44
Speaker 1: Julia Harder Hurt and you know, Britt Baker and Jamie Hater.
56:50
Speaker 1: That could be a good one to come back for Raider,
56:53
Speaker 1: you know. So Yeah, I mean it's time. It is
56:58
Speaker 1: time to get the women's tag championship belts in there.
57:05
Speaker 1: It's the.
57:07
Speaker 5: Only problem I have with that is, look what they've
57:09
Speaker 5: done to the men's tag side. I mean literally there's nothing.
57:14
Speaker 5: I mean, they're you're chasing away one of the best
57:16
Speaker 5: tag teams in the world if they leave, because the
57:20
Speaker 5: men's side can't be can't get the tag Team Division going,
57:23
Speaker 5: I'm not sure they're gonna be able to do anything
57:25
Speaker 5: with the women's side.
57:26
Speaker 1: Well, the big, the big difference is is that there's
57:29
Speaker 1: no trios felt to the women's side, and if they
57:32
Speaker 1: do that, I will personally go run. I'll meet Tony
57:37
Speaker 1: Kahn at the Arlington Private Airport and kick him in
57:41
Speaker 1: the nutsack.
57:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know that's the that's the that's the
57:46
Speaker 3: that's the way it goes. You get a tag team trios.
57:52
Speaker 4: I mean, are they putting it on the shelf with
57:54
Speaker 4: the storyline say that the E DPS aren't going to
57:58
Speaker 4: defend this, so they're trying to promote the trio title,
58:01
Speaker 4: which I don't like the trio title anyway, but I
58:06
Speaker 4: kind of put it on the back burner for a reason.
58:10
Speaker 4: To do that. I think it's a waste of time.
58:12
Speaker 4: I think the Tag Team division deserves it more. I
58:14
Speaker 4: don't care about a plane doing it. I know them
58:17
Speaker 4: an str are in it, and I don't know who's
58:20
Speaker 4: face and who's deal in that situation, but we'll see
58:24
Speaker 4: what I don't. I think then if that's the tag
58:27
Speaker 4: division and just get rid of that, well.
58:32
Speaker 1: The whole thing problem, my big thing is I'm sorry.
58:36
Speaker 1: We'll hear about your big problem in a minute, because
58:39
Speaker 1: we know you love your big problems. My whole, my
58:43
Speaker 1: whole thought process is with and that's one of the
58:47
Speaker 1: reasons why the Luca Brothers are probably like, let's keeping
58:51
Speaker 1: us here. The tag team. The Belts have not been
58:55
Speaker 1: defended in what three months or whatever it is, I
58:58
Speaker 1: don't know, it seems like a half a year. And
59:01
Speaker 1: Tony Con is completely infatuated with FTR and be acclaimed
59:08
Speaker 1: and you know, you can even throw maybe the guns
59:12
Speaker 1: in there over how many how many tag teams do
59:15
Speaker 1: you think Tony Con is putting above the Luca Brothers
59:18
Speaker 1: right now? There's too many.
59:23
Speaker 5: The track and the sad part about it is they
59:25
Speaker 5: had the trios titles down to one set and split
59:30
Speaker 5: them again, yea, for no reason.
59:35
Speaker 7: I mean unless you're going to and this is the
59:38
Speaker 7: thing they said, well, we're bringing back.
59:40
Speaker 3: The R O H tag that the oh, the R
59:42
Speaker 3: O H trios tag titles. Separate it.
59:47
Speaker 5: If you're gonna do it, separate them, stop putting them together,
59:51
Speaker 5: because it doesn't make any sense if you count all
59:55
Speaker 5: the titles on the men's.
59:56
Speaker 3: Side, including R O H. Because they're defending r O
1:00:00
Speaker 3: these titles everywhere. You've got trios.
1:00:02
Speaker 5: On both, You've got a world championship on both, you've
1:00:05
Speaker 5: got a tag team on both. Why r O H
1:00:10
Speaker 5: and AW if they're supposed to be separate entities make
1:00:14
Speaker 5: it that way, stop bringing their champions over with them
1:00:19
Speaker 5: on their own show.
1:00:20
Speaker 1: Well, Tony Kahn is talking about rebranding r o H
1:00:23
Speaker 1: to a W r O H. So, unfortunately you're going
1:00:26
Speaker 1: to see a lot more r O H and AW
1:00:29
Speaker 1: together people go with the r O H and defending
1:00:34
Speaker 1: or what.
1:00:36
Speaker 3: I'm thinking that's more or less done so that.
1:00:38
Speaker 5: He can get with w B, with W with Time Warner.
1:00:43
Speaker 5: He wants them to use them, and they're not going
1:00:47
Speaker 5: to do it. They don't want anything to do with
1:00:49
Speaker 5: r o H. So he wants to rebrand it so
1:00:51
Speaker 5: that they can get their show on that.
1:00:56
Speaker 3: Used to be whatever the hell it is.
1:01:00
Speaker 1: Better.
1:01:01
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, they should, they should keep.
1:01:08
Speaker 3: Those I'm old, my brain don't work like that anymore.
1:01:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would keep the trios, keep the trios on
1:01:15
Speaker 2: exclusive to r O AGE, have the tag exclusive to
1:01:20
Speaker 2: a W. You know, maybe get rid of one of
1:01:23
Speaker 2: their other singles titles in a W and and then
1:01:27
Speaker 2: a lot better off. Yeah, one of them, I won't
1:01:30
Speaker 2: I want to.
1:01:31
Speaker 1: But if you didn't want to get rid of the
1:01:32
Speaker 1: ft W Championship because it's so precious to you, honestly,
1:01:36
Speaker 1: you could actually and I've said this before and people
1:01:39
Speaker 1: have agreed with me. What's the difference between the International
1:01:42
Speaker 1: and Continental championship? Yeah, I combine them.
1:01:45
Speaker 2: I think here's my thought. They should take the continental,
1:01:49
Speaker 2: combine it with the world title, and just say the
1:01:52
Speaker 2: Continental tournament is for a world title shot. And I
1:01:55
Speaker 2: feel like they should have done that before. I think
1:01:58
Speaker 2: they just wanted to give Eddie three belts.
1:02:02
Speaker 1: Four belts.
1:02:05
Speaker 5: They could move one of them to the tow r
1:02:07
Speaker 5: o H two. They could take the international title and
1:02:10
Speaker 5: move it over there.
1:02:12
Speaker 1: That's true, to give.
1:02:14
Speaker 3: Them another title because they only have.
1:02:16
Speaker 5: T They've got the world title, they got the television title,
1:02:22
Speaker 5: and they've got the tag team titles.
1:02:24
Speaker 3: That's it.
1:02:26
Speaker 5: Well yeah and the pure Okay, so you got four
1:02:28
Speaker 5: move them another one out there that that makes you
1:02:31
Speaker 5: room for that gives you a whole new class of
1:02:34
Speaker 5: people that the whole new group of people that could
1:02:37
Speaker 5: defend it, a whole new group of people that could
1:02:39
Speaker 5: because you've got to do something to build more so
1:02:43
Speaker 5: to build ro Oh than you do a W because
1:02:45
Speaker 5: with R O H being gone and then coming back,
1:02:49
Speaker 5: it kind of lost some of its luster.
1:02:51
Speaker 3: So you know that.
1:02:53
Speaker 5: Think that's why he wants to rebrand it so he
1:02:55
Speaker 5: can get WBD to to bring it onto television because
1:03:00
Speaker 5: they won't have the excuse saying we don't well it's
1:03:02
Speaker 5: not Oh anymore, it's aw Rhea.
1:03:05
Speaker 1: So library is still on Honor Club.
1:03:11
Speaker 3: But that would be the best thing to do over there.
1:03:16
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, look, we just hit the hour mark, so
1:03:18
Speaker 1: I think this is a good time to, you know,
1:03:21
Speaker 1: end this episode of Ignition. We will be back tomorrow
1:03:25
Speaker 1: night to talk about AW Dynamite on All the Talk.
1:03:31
Speaker 1: I hope you'll listen to that. We'll have that posted
1:03:33
Speaker 1: up on Thursday. I don't know. I just think that
1:03:38
Speaker 1: we're going to have a pretty special couple of weeks,
1:03:41
Speaker 1: especially on Dynamite. You know. So I'm looking for some
1:03:46
Speaker 1: stuff to happen. I really am. I wouldn't be if
1:03:50
Speaker 1: Shaye McMahan is coming to to a W I would
1:03:55
Speaker 1: be surprised if he didn't show up tomorrow night. Seriously,
1:03:59
Speaker 1: it makes sense. It makes sense that's advertising. I mean,
1:04:04
Speaker 1: it's something it'll definitely bring in the views, especially if
1:04:09
Speaker 1: he comes in like a you know, during the ten
1:04:14
Speaker 1: five hour you know, as as it's going off the air.
1:04:18
Speaker 1: If he comes out and just shows up, it'll get
1:04:21
Speaker 1: people talking about next week.
1:04:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be cool.
1:04:26
Speaker 1: That would be cool. So we'll see, the same thing
1:04:30
Speaker 1: can be said for Britt Baker. The same thing can
1:04:33
Speaker 1: be said for someone like Adam Cole even coming back,
1:04:38
Speaker 1: because he's been posting about his move to Pennsylvania individually.
1:04:44
Speaker 1: Does that mean that he and Britt Baker a broken up? Hmmm,
1:04:48
Speaker 1: who cares.
1:04:49
Speaker 2: It's pennsylvani that's like Pittsburgh, right, Yes, yes.
1:04:56
Speaker 5: That was kind of funny that he's moving to Pennsylvania.
1:04:58
Speaker 3: So wait a minute. Okay, well he.
1:05:02
Speaker 1: Lives in Florida, and if he's usually you're dating somebody
1:05:05
Speaker 1: you live in the same town. So I'm thinking they
1:05:07
Speaker 1: probably did, you know, with each other.
1:05:13
Speaker 5: But that's one of those that's one of those stories
1:05:15
Speaker 5: that you know, they have to have something to talk about.
1:05:17
Speaker 3: Oh, look he's moving Pennsylvania. Duh, she's in Pennsylvania.
1:05:22
Speaker 1: I just I'm just throwing at him. Poule out there
1:05:24
Speaker 1: because I think that we may see him. I think
1:05:29
Speaker 1: based on what I've seen, he may be just about cleared.
1:05:32
Speaker 1: So if you that with all in coming up, we're
1:05:37
Speaker 1: gonna see some stuff. I'm telling you, we're gonna see
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Speaker 1: some interesting stuff. Look, we already got Kamille.
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Speaker 2: Adam needs to come out and attack the Undisputed Kingdom.
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Speaker 3: He does.
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Speaker 1: War, come out and save the Undisputed Kingdom.
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Speaker 5: He needs to come out and send and tell them
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Speaker 5: to go back to r O H and grow up.
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Speaker 3: There you go? All right, bet you better?
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Speaker 1: said that you copied me like a robot anyway, because
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Speaker 1: I sounded like a robot anyway, good night, everybody, night, guys,