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Radko Gudas Brought His Beard: Eastern Conference Preview, Mess in Motown and Hellebuyck Hiding. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Special guest in NHL Unscripted, Radko Gutis, former roommate of
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  Speaker 1: Nate Thompson. Jason Demers has stories for days. Cannot wait
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  Speaker 1: to talk to Radko, one of the toughest players in
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  Speaker 1: the league for so many years. And this is honestly
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  Speaker 1: going to be a special episode of NHL Unscripted season previews.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. We're going team by team, in or out,
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  Speaker 1: division by division. It is that time here on NHL Unscripted,
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  Speaker 1: episode number 99. We did it, J.D. The Gretzky episode.
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  Speaker 1: The Gretzky. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't got fired yet.
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  Speaker 1: Almost there, boys.
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  Speaker 2: I'm hanging on.
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  Speaker 1: Except, oh, Nate's crushing it last week. We were great.
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  Speaker 2: We did miss Jason. Another test day for you, Nate.
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  Speaker 3: Just hanging on.
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  Speaker 1: We're just calling Nate's episodes The Audition. It's just Nate
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  Speaker 1: just auditioning, just fighting for his life here.
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  Speaker 2: Kids got alligator blood in them.
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  Speaker 1: We missed J.D. last week. He was busy with San
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  Speaker 1: Jose Sharks Media Day. How was Media Day? What's the
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  Speaker 1: vibe like right now, J.D., for this team?
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  Speaker 3: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I think about the Sharks in general. You were there.
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  Speaker 1: You played it.
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  Speaker 2: You know it.
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  Speaker 1: Made that cup final, model organization, fell in hard times.
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  Speaker 1: Now you've got Macklin Celebrini. How excited are people there
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  Speaker 1: right now?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's the, we're at the, I don't know, I
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  Speaker 2: might've used this last, we're at the yodeler on Price
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  Speaker 2: is Right right now. We're at the top of the,
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  Speaker 2: we're at the top of the staircase and we'll see
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  Speaker 2: if we keep going up or if we go down.
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  Speaker 2: But no, the vibes are high there. It's really the
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  Speaker 2: most exciting I've seen it and heard from there since,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I was there in the 2010s to 16s
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  Speaker 2: when they ended up, you know, going to the finals
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  Speaker 2: and losing ultimately. But, you know, it's just all the
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  Speaker 2: new faces there. You see them all relaxed. Everybody's excited.
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  Speaker 2: Media day is kind of like the best day because
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  Speaker 2: guys are, it's the most calm and loose you'll have
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  Speaker 2: guys all season long because then it ramps up because
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  Speaker 2: the start of training camp happens. So, yeah, so, you know, everybody's,
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  Speaker 2: Understanding these new guys coming in are going to be
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  Speaker 2: huge parts of this franchise. The biggest takeaway from that
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  Speaker 2: was I got to sit down with Mason Marchment. That
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  Speaker 2: was an emotional interview because he was tearing up talking
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  Speaker 2: about coming out of the shark head. His dad passed away,
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  Speaker 2: was a friend of mine, was the first development coach
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  Speaker 2: I had coming to the AHL and was just such
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  Speaker 2: an amazing man. He played for the Sharks, Brian Marchment.
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  Speaker 2: And he wanted to be a Sharks player his whole career.
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  Speaker 2: And he was even talking about, like, he's like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: I used to play, like, mini sticks in the room. Like,
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  Speaker 2: this was, like, years ago. And he's like, I can't
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  Speaker 2: believe I'm back. And he's like, I can't wait to
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  Speaker 2: walk out of the shirt head. He's, like, welling up.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, this is incredible. I can't wait.
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  Speaker 2: Such a fan of his. He's a great kid. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was, like, the highlight for me was Mason Marchman. But, yeah, everybody,
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  Speaker 2: I got to talk to Darnell Nurse. He was like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: this is awesome. He's like, it's just. Guys seeing how
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  Speaker 2: great the San Jose franchise is and all the amenities
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  Speaker 2: they have at the practice rink and everything. So it
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  Speaker 2: was good. It was great. A lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome, man. And Nate, for you, you were watching
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  Speaker 1: a little preseason hockey, watching the Tampa game, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did.
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  Speaker 4: Watching the Lightning, they had their whole lineup in, really.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they only had three rookies in the lineup,
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  Speaker 4: I think, at the time. But seeing John Carlson, Mikheyev,
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  Speaker 4: I thought, looks really good with their team. And for
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  Speaker 4: young guys, there's this kid named Sam O'Reilly. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if you guys heard of him, but he four
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  Speaker 4: Memorial Cup appearances in.
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  Speaker 1: His junior career.
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  Speaker 4: Wins the Memorial Cup last year. But this kid, I
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  Speaker 4: was talking to John Cooper about it just the other day,
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  Speaker 4: just after. They've kind of found their third line player
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  Speaker 4: that they need. He's only 20 years old, but the
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  Speaker 4: way he plays, he's very mature. He was killing penalties
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  Speaker 4: on the power play. Just kind of an all-around player
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  Speaker 4: and one that looks way mature. So I think he's
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  Speaker 4: going to make that team and be kind of an
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  Speaker 4: X factor for that forward lineup because I think they've
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  Speaker 4: been kind of searching for that third line the last
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  Speaker 4: couple of years ever since they won the Cup.
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  Speaker 3: So this Sam O'Reilly kid could be the real deal
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  Speaker 3: for the Tampa Bay Lightning.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a good point though.
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  Speaker 3: O'Reilly!
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  Speaker 1: But it is a good point, Judy. Some of these
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  Speaker 1: young players, you just always get accustomed to thinking, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this guy's a game breaker. He's a scorer. He's a
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  Speaker 1: top six player. Sometimes you need a third-line center. If
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  Speaker 1: you can come in there and go, hey, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to kill penalties. I will be defensively responsible. I will
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  Speaker 1: win face-offs. That has great value for a team like
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  Speaker 1: the Lightning.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to make the NHL as a young guy,
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  Speaker 2: and you are not a first overall pick, and you
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  Speaker 2: are not a guy that just is being brought in
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  Speaker 2: specifically to play the power play, you need to understand
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  Speaker 2: that you need the trust of the coach if you
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  Speaker 2: want to make the NHL. The trust of the coach
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  Speaker 2: is first and foremost important. You know, O'Reilly, just listening
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  Speaker 2: to him reminds me a lot of Colin Graff in
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  Speaker 2: San Jose. He learned to play the penalty kill. It
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  Speaker 2: ended up keeping him in the league, and now he's
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  Speaker 2: a contributing member of that bottom six. He can play
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  Speaker 2: top six. O'Reilly, similar, you find a way to make
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  Speaker 2: the NHL. Again, it's like check your ego out the door.
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  Speaker 2: If you were a PP guy in junior or at
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  Speaker 2: the college level, you ain't going to be a PP
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  Speaker 2: guy in the NHL because there's there's, you know, five,
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  Speaker 2: at least five guys on that team that are better
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  Speaker 2: than you at it initially, unless you're brought in specifically
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  Speaker 2: for that. So I always love hearing stories of guys
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  Speaker 2: coming in and being like, coaches are like, dude, he's
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  Speaker 2: a great PKer. I'm like, I would teach kids that
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  Speaker 2: at any level to learn about the PK, learn how
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  Speaker 2: to be trusted because that's, a coach only puts you
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  Speaker 2: over the boards because he trusts you in certain situations.
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  Speaker 2: He might put you out, if he doesn't trust you,
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  Speaker 2: he's only going to put you out there in the
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  Speaker 2: offensive zone because he's like, I got to protect him
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  Speaker 2: and you're going to get, you know, a shift every
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  Speaker 2: three times and you'll get passed over versus being a
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  Speaker 2: guy that's trusted to go in the D zone, then
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  Speaker 2: you can create offense from there. So it's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of, it's always fun to hear young guys that,
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  Speaker 2: that figure it out early because I'm like, there's no
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  Speaker 2: shortage of, uh, skill guys, but there is an absolute
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  Speaker 2: need for defensive players because cooch shed it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we'll have, we'll Yeah, the league's as stupid as ever.
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  Speaker 2: It was the most honest.
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  Speaker 3: The hockey way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the most honest. But, like, it was just, in Cooch,
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  Speaker 2: in so many words, like, it's true, though. Like, it's
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  Speaker 2: an indie sport. The talent level's never been higher, but
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  Speaker 2: the idiocy or the, you know, the dum-dums, the dum-dums
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  Speaker 2: are through the roof. Like, guys don't know how to
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  Speaker 2: play hockey. They're just so good and so fast. So it's, like,
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  Speaker 2: nice to see guys that can, you know, play the game.
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  Speaker 1: That was a hilarious line by Kucherov. Tal, quick thought
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  Speaker 1: on O'Reilly?
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  Speaker 5: O'Reilly is just the latest example of why the Lightning
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  Speaker 5: are the Lightning. They get him from Edmonton for Isaac Howard,
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  Speaker 5: who did not want to be there. And what does
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  Speaker 5: Sam O'Reilly do last season? He wins OHL MVP, OHL
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  Speaker 5: Playoff MVP, and then Memorial Cup MVP. So he's actually,
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  Speaker 5: I just want to mention, he's a player I'm looking
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  Speaker 5: out for, too, because he had a hell of a
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  Speaker 5: season last season in the O.A. Tal's players to watch.
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  Speaker 3: Tal is ahead of me.
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  Speaker 1: I like it.
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  Speaker 2: Tal's players to watch. He's starting a blog on Substack.
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  Speaker 2: Tal's players to watch. TPW. I like it.
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  Speaker 1: TPW coming soon here at NHL Unstricted. Maybe just on
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  Speaker 1: episode 100 we'll unveil that new segment. In the meantime,
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  Speaker 1: we've got some big-time drama, folks. In Winnipeg, three-time Vesta
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  Speaker 1: winner and the U.S. Olympic legend, Connor Hellebuck, suspended by
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  Speaker 1: the team. Doesn't even report to training camp. This comes
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  Speaker 1: after he publicly requested... a trade last month. And in Detroit,
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  Speaker 1: ex-captain Dylan Larkin out of an upper body injury, not
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  Speaker 1: participating in camp after requesting his own trade. And when
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  Speaker 1: asked about his trade request by the media, he refused
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  Speaker 1: to go into detail. So, Nate, which team has the
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  Speaker 1: bigger mess on their hands? Halibut and the Jets or
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  Speaker 1: Larkin and the Red Wings?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, kind of pick your poison here, but for me,
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  Speaker 4: I kind of went on a rant last week about it.
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  Speaker 3: And for me, it's Detroit just because... you know, on top.
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  Speaker 4: Of the Larkin situation, you also have exactly pulling the
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  Speaker 4: big parachute, but on top of that, you don't have
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  Speaker 4: a GM in place name, you know, it's, it's interim, right?
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  Speaker 4: So if I mean, and I can go into that too,
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  Speaker 4: but why not just name Sean Horkoff, the general manager
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  Speaker 4: or Daniel clear or Chris Draper, these guys are all qualified.
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  Speaker 4: They've been around the organization forever. I think the Larkin
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  Speaker 4: situation is one that jumps out for me just because,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you strip the captaincy. There's that part of
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  Speaker 4: it as well. And it's just how do you make
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  Speaker 4: that work going forward? Like he needs to open up
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  Speaker 4: the team situation so they can move them. And it's
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  Speaker 4: just an awkward, awkward situation for the Detroit Red Wings
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  Speaker 4: moving forward. And they're, in my opinion, the best division
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  Speaker 4: in hockey too. So they're already behind the eight ball
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  Speaker 4: as the season's starting right now.
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  Speaker 1: J.D., how do you see it? I mean, Winnipeg's not
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  Speaker 1: much nicer, easier. I mean, now the stories have come out,
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  Speaker 1: as you said, that Connor Halibut's family was being, you know,
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  Speaker 1: was vandalized over his house because his wife doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to be there, so you get his point. But again,
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  Speaker 1: Sheldon's not going to be forced into a move. This
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  Speaker 1: is messy all around for both these clubs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, dude, it's tough because it's, I just
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  Speaker 2: have considered Detroit like a failed state, you know, the organization. So, like,
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  Speaker 2: I think that, I think, like, Connor's, The Hellebuck situation
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  Speaker 2: is more intriguing to me because you listen to guys
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  Speaker 2: talk in the media, and some of the guys seem
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  Speaker 2: a little irked by it. Yeah, like, need a rider.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, we don't talk about guys that aren't here. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like, it seems like there's a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: because the truth is always somewhere in the middle. Like,
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  Speaker 2: do I think, you know, I was listening to some pundits, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: talk about that a lot of it's believed to be,
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  Speaker 2: Because when US won gold, Canadian fans were not happy
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  Speaker 2: with the fact that these players went to the White
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  Speaker 2: House and saw Trump and this and that. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it pissed off some guys. And probably they're like,
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  Speaker 2: fuck this, I don't need it. I'll just leave. But
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  Speaker 2: to me, I'm like, do you really like... you know, they,
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  Speaker 2: it's crazy that Canadian fans would have allowed themselves to
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  Speaker 2: not understand that these are kids and like, you're, I
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  Speaker 2: get it. And you're supposed to be held accountable. And, and,
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  Speaker 2: but like, you wouldn't be mad at American player. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sorry that Canadian players like American teams wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: mad at a Canadian player, like, you know, going to
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  Speaker 2: see Carney and then, you know, flying on a jet
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  Speaker 2: and then go to parliament and coming back. So it's like,
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  Speaker 2: You got to give these guys a break a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: but at the same point, I'm a proponent of you
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  Speaker 2: sign a contract and you make all these promises to
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  Speaker 2: an organization, and then you're not showing up at camp.
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  Speaker 2: At least be like, listen, go in a shovel day
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  Speaker 2: office room and be like, I fucking can't stand it here.
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  Speaker 2: I hate it. They fucked with my wife. They fucked
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  Speaker 2: with my family. I'm going to play. Find me a
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  Speaker 2: place to be traded. Don't not show up and then
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  Speaker 2: leak it. And same thing with Larkin. You come in,
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  Speaker 2: you get injured. And then the press conference he has
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  Speaker 2: is just awful. Larkin's press conference. It's somewhere in the middle.
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  Speaker 2: I understand you're upset and you want to get out,
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  Speaker 2: and great. But do it... Brady at least kind of
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  Speaker 2: did it the right way, and they found a deal
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  Speaker 2: for him quick. Brady was like, I'm done. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I liked my time, but it's time to move on.
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  Speaker 2: He probably took it the worst of the three of them.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's It could have been handled better
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  Speaker 2: on all sides, and now we're, you know, this is
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  Speaker 2: where we are, and this is what usually happens at
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  Speaker 2: the bad breakup. It just gets worse and worse, and
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  Speaker 2: the divorce lawyers come in, and then you're like, oh, fuck,
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  Speaker 2: I'm broke.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be like Marriage Story on Netflix. Great film.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of politics and hockey, I remember years ago working
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  Speaker 1: with the great, late Barry Melrose and Tim Thomas to
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  Speaker 1: go to the White House to go see Obama, and
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  Speaker 1: I said to Barry, I said, you know, it's Bush League.
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  Speaker 1: The guy doesn't like Obama. He's not going to show up.
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  Speaker 1: I said, who cares if you're a Republican? And Barry
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  Speaker 1: looked at me and he goes, I got news for you.
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  Speaker 1: All these hockey guys are Republicans. But the point being,
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  Speaker 1: who cares who the president is? A lot of these
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  Speaker 1: guys probably don't like Obama, but they're going to go
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  Speaker 1: there anyways. And I said, yeah, it really shouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: that upsetting to people.
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  Speaker 2: Fiscally conservative.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Socially liberal.
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  Speaker 2: Socially liberal.
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  Speaker 3: Fiscally conservative.
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  Speaker 2: That's the great cop-out. It's not black and white. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: In the meantime, the Columbus crash. Speaking of drama, the
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  Speaker 1: Jackets camp already off to a rough start after a
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  Speaker 1: summer full of speculation that Zach Wierenski might want to
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  Speaker 1: go to Columbus, and he walked it back. Kirill Marchenko
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  Speaker 1: was not exactly committed to the Blue Jackets. He spoke
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  Speaker 1: to me the other day. He evaded questions about his
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  Speaker 1: future with the team and then restricted Frazier out of Fantilli,
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  Speaker 1: who had a nice season last year. He's unsigned, absent
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  Speaker 1: from training camp. This after Captain Boone Jenner and key
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  Speaker 1: winger Mason Marchin both left him for agency this summer.
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  Speaker 1: If that wasn't enough, they got one goal their first
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  Speaker 1: two preseason games. J.D., how challenging is the situation for
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  Speaker 1: GM Don Waddell?
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  Speaker 2: Can I revise my picks in Columbus? Especially, you like
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  Speaker 2: Columbus a lot. I like the point of you like Columbus.
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  Speaker 2: I want to pull this absolute tire fire right now.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: What is Bones doing over there? You were believing in Bones. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I thought that rant at the end of the season
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  Speaker 2: might have sparked something, but he pissed off some guys.
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  Speaker 2: And then he came right into camp and was like
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  Speaker 2: telling them they're lucky that they're lucky today that we
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  Speaker 2: didn't have physical testing. Cause he's like, I would have
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  Speaker 2: buried him or something. I saw an article, something that
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  Speaker 2: came out of him, a quote saying some guys didn't
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  Speaker 2: look like they're in shape, but yeah, this is on
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  Speaker 2: the players for sure. Right. You got to come ready,
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  Speaker 2: but I do it. It's like trying to get guys
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  Speaker 2: signed and it's difficult when you wait this long and you,
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  Speaker 2: you don't push it as a GM to get something signed.
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  Speaker 2: And cause now you're at camp and it's just a,
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  Speaker 2: it's a mess on all sides. And, and, It's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit like, you know, the longer you let it fester,
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  Speaker 2: you just got to rip the bandaid off.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like where there's smoke, there's fire usually.
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  Speaker 4: And in Columbus, it just seems like, you know, it
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  Speaker 4: can't be any secret he wants out. I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know how this deal with them in Montreal hasn't
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  Speaker 4: happened yet.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like this has been.
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  Speaker 2: Talked about for a long time. I'll tell you why.
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  Speaker 3: That would be a hell of an addition, though.
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  Speaker 2: Hughes has him by the short and curlies, and he's like,
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  Speaker 2: we'll just wait. He's got his finger up his ass
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  Speaker 2: being like, I'm not going to put two in. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to put two in just yet. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to leave it at one. Can't wait for that moment
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  Speaker 2: once he's just a second digit. Let him know you're there.
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  Speaker 2: And on that note, the awkward but difficult transition to
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  Speaker 2: division previews. Opening night is mere days away. We kick
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  Speaker 2: off our predictions for the season starting with Atlantic Division.
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  Speaker 2: We have to put a timer on this. We don't
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  Speaker 2: want a two-hour NHL unscripted. But Atlantic Division, we're going
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  Speaker 2: in order of how they finished last season.
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  Speaker 1: The Sabres. They lost Bo Byram, Alex Tuck, Jordan Greenway,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Kesselring. They gained Olin Zellweger, Crevier, and Connor Sheery.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Who got knocked out last game. Right.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Nate, Sabres in or out? Go to the playoffs.
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: I'm going to say they're going to be out this year.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to take a step back. I
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: don't think any, if you look at their season last year,
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: they went on an insane run, insane run. And I
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: don't know with the addition of Florida in the conversation,
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: the reboot of Toronto, I just, I don't have them in.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: And I think this is going to.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Be, they're going to be out.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: I don't want to, I don't want to be too
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: long winded.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, JD.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Florida, have we seen Barkov? Yeah. Have we
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: seen Sasha? Your boy. Sasha looks fucking very good. Yeah,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Buffalo's out. I think Buffalo's out. Maybe Ruff gets fired
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: halfway through the year.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Holy shit. You guys are dropping haymakers. Wow.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Unless they get Hellebuck and they make a huge-ass swing,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: which I've heard they were running for it, but they
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: need to make a move. Maybe they bring in Larkin.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: who knows at this point, but yeah, I think they're out.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: I think everybody, yeah, and we'll continue.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: All right, Tampa Bay Lightning. They lost Darren Radish, goes
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: to the Maple Leafs, Nick Paul, Corey Perry, Oliver Bjorkstrand.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: They gained John Carlson, Micaiah, VL, and Dennis Hildeby. JD, Lightning,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs or out? Lightning are going to make it.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: They're back. Vassie, one more ride at it. One more
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: kick at the can. Don't know if they win, but
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I think young guys coming. I think Dominic James has
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: a big year. I like that.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say they're in, too.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Hedman's back.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: Hedman, that's what I was going to say. That's a
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: big addition, getting him back. We talked about that Sam O'Reilly.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: But I agree. I think that this is their kind
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: of last dance a little bit before.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Things are broken up.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Pointer.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: They've had their chances.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Braden Pointer.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Four years out of the first round. It's time to
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: get past that now.
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Where are you at, Pointer? Let's go.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Montreal Canadiens. Favorite team of NHL unscripted, yeah. They lost
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Brendan Gallagher, Patrick Laine, Joe Valeno. They gained Chris Kreider. Tal,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: they're in.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Go do your Habs spiel.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: They're in. I think.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: I gotta say, I've never seen, like, hockey media so.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: hyping up the Canadians like this ever. In my entire life.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: There's just Dan Rosen at NHL.com. Have them at the
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: tip of the top of his list of teams.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: That can win the Cup.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I saw that.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: I like that they didn't make any big changes, although
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: there still could be another change coming, but they want
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: this core to grow together.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I'm excited to see them this season. Should be fun.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if they bring Marchenko in, depending on what the
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: return is, but Man, their top power play, five guys
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: all under $ 10 million, and that power play is absolutely electric.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: David Reinbacher seems to be healthy. He's kind of the
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: X factor on their decor as a young guy. If
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: he can stay healthy, he's been touted to be their
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: kind of second coming. And then Dobesh bouncing back, not
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: bouncing back, but continuing on his year. But they have
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: three good goalies that can all play at any specific
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: time with Fowler, Montembeau, so Yeah, I like him. Montreal's in.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Everything you guys said. Go Habs go.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Jeff Gordon did a great job as far as building
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: that team with a lot of very cap-friendly moves as well.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Locking those guys up at good prices. Boston Bruins. They
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: lost Victor Harvinson, Julius Korpisal, Andrew Peek. They gained JT Paterka,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Will Borgen, Connor Clifton. Boston Bruins, Nate, in the playoffs
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: or out?
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: I'm going to say in. I think that's... With that addition,
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: especially J.J. Paterka, that one really jumps out at me.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: I think that having a guy that can put the
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: puck in the net on top of Pasta, Geeky, those guys,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Fraser Mitten, hopefully takes another step. And then they got
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Jeremy Swayman, who's arguably one of the best goaltenders in
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: the league. So I think the Bruins are in. And
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: with the way Marco Sturm coaches and how he got
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: them to respond last year and kind of overachieve.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Now they've got a better lineup. I think they're in. JD?
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be between the Bruins, Sens, and
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Leafs in the Atlantic. Who kind of can sneak into
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: that last? It'll be a wild card spot. This is
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: my fence. Boston's my fence. Boston's my fence. I want
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: to lean and say, I want to say nay.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Go out, because you're going to go Sens in.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Am I going Sens in?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: You are, you are. Give a little love to the
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Canadian audience.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Redemption? Yeah. I'm going to say Bruins miss.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Attaboy. So that dovetails to the Senators. They lose Brady Kachuk.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I want to tell you, it's hard not to take
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: when you've got Swayman. He's one of the best boys
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: in the league. Fuck Jay. Pussy.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: The Senators lose Brady Kachuk, but they gain Willie Eklund, Burakovsky,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Sam Erickson, Sammy Blah. This is the one, JD. Everyone's
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: going to go, Ottawa, big step back. They lost Kachuk.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: You're going to go, no way. Ottawa's goal of the playoffs, baby.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Wild card team. Let's go.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: This is the equivalent of Major League when they had
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the cut-up of the owner. It's going to be the
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: cut-up of Brady Kachuk. Naked Brady Kachuk. And they're going
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: to keep posting a piece and be like, we want
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: to make We want to see his pee-pee.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Every time we win, we take a piece off. That's fantastic.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Every time we win, we take a piece off. That
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: is a piece. That is a brilliant idea. Yes. Willie Eklund, dude.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: If I'm them, day one of training camp, I'm calling
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: the guys in the room and being like, this fucking
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: guy didn't want to be here. And he's in our division.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: You pound him relentlessly every game we play him. I
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: don't care if we all get beat up by him,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: which we probably will. We fight him. They're in.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Ottawa's in. I love it.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Nate?
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say out.
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: I'm going to say with the resurgence of Toronto, we'll
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: get into that, and the Florida Panthers and everyone else
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: in the division, because I'm going to have five teams
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: from the Atlantic make the playoffs.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: You got five?
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Five. I'm going to say the Ottawa Senators are out.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: No break, Chuck. It's going to be a big Heartbeat
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: missing for them.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: All right. Red Wings lost Patrick Kane, James Van Riemsdyk,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Cam Talbot. Eventually, Dylan Larkin is going to be gone
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: as well. David Perron. They gained Victor Arvidsson. Out. Move on.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Let's save some time.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Florida lost Bobrovsky. Evan Rodriguez. In.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Next. Let's go. Florida's in.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Good point.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: And the Leafs.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Okay. Leafs will be a good one here. Nate just
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: said he's got the Leafs being in. They lost Joe Wohl. Hildeby, Berube.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: They gained Gavin McKenna, Bobrovsky, Radish, Nick Paul, Roslevic. They
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: got John Chyka, new president Matt Sandin. Nate, you got
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the Leafs as a wildcard team.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I think the Leafs sneak in. I think with a
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: healthy Austin Matthews this year, a Bobrovsky, Darren Radish, who
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I think is going to make their power play so
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: much better and so much more dangerous. And I love
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: the bottom six acquisitions, like Sissons and Duhaime, those guys.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I think that they're going to be underrated for them,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: and I think that they're going to sneak in. I
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: think the Leafs are going to be in this year.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Leafs are back, JD. I'm going to say they're in.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I'm sticking with it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Because only if Brandon Tanev, not Brandon Tanev, Chris Tanev
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: can stay healthy. Chris Sandoff stays healthy. They make it.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: If he gets hurt and he's out again, they're in trouble.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I know they lost Domi for indefinitely. He didn't pass
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: the physical. That one's a little worrisome. I hope he's
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: all right. But he's a piece, too. But I think
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: they get in. I think McKenna has a 50-point season,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: and Amatz goes and just pounds the puck into the net,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: scores 50 again, and they make it in. He drags
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: them into the playoffs.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Tal, in Emil Andre, we trust. Do you have the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Leafs going to the playoffs?
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Ooh, it's tough.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Math-wise, look, five teams from the Atlantic made the playoffs
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: last season. At least one of them is going to
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: miss it this year because Florida is going to be
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: back in. So the question is, how many teams that
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: missed last season will be in this season? I do
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: not have the Leafs making it. I think Ottawa will
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: make it.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I got four from Atlantic, and I got four from
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: the Metro making it in.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Five and three for me.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll find out which teams from the Metro
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the guys do believe in, but coming up next, Radko Gudis.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Got stories for days. One of the toughest players in
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the league. He'll join us next on NHL Unscripted. Our
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: next guest was drafted in the third round, 66th overall
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: by the Tampa Bay Lightning in the 2010 NHL draft.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: He enters this season 211 points and 1,124 penalty minutes
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: in 885 career games with the Lightning, Flyers, Capitals, Panthers,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: and the Ducks. The man, the beard, the legend, Radko Gudis. Radko,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: good to see you, man.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. What a nice introduction.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, man. One of our favorites.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: That's all he does.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: What was the highlight of the summer for you, Radko?
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: I mean, getting traded here and signing back here, so
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: the whole family was excited to join the organization that
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: we were at before, so it's hard not to say
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: the move back to Florida.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Goody, talk about Florida and where it's come, even from
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: you kind of saw it get to the almost, you know,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: you made it to the Cup Finals, and then now
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: you come back years later. How does it feel, and
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: What have you noticed the change in the organization since
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: you've been there to now?
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: I mean, I had great years here.
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: We were building the mentality or the group or the
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: feel of the playoffs and getting in the playoffs and
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: understanding what it all takes to win a round. And
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: since I left, they did that those two years. They
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: fully won. They were the team to be. They were
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: the number one team. um, team to look, or they
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: were the juggernauts of the whole, uh, league. So, um,
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: joining them here back, it feels almost unreal. They're all, um, champions.
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: They all hold each other to the highest standard and
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: the work ethic and the, the will of, uh, playing
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: the game the right way and doing the right things
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: on the ice all the time. It's something that's in
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: their DNA right away from the start and it's something
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: that's really hard to teach, but these guys here have
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: it or we have it here and it's awesome to
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: be part of again and seeing the big guys being
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: the drivers and working the hardest on and on the ice.
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: Just seeing them mature, seeing them grow as players and
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: understanding they have to do all this to to win
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: a series and to win it all. So it's nice
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: to come here and see all the men working out
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: and going for the same goal.
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: So that's been really great.
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: I would say one of the biggest changes is the
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: mentality of what it all takes, and I need to
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: be ready for that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Goody, JD and I were joking around before the show
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: and talking about your guys' lineup. You go down the
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: list and Bennett, Matthew Kachuk.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Brady Kachuk.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Uh, you know, Marshawn, now it's you get, you know,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: garnet Hathaway, another one who's gonna, who's gonna lead the charge, uh,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: when it comes to agitating every game and stirring it
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: up because, you know, usually by yourself, but now you
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: have a, you got.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: A fucking pack of hyenas.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: You got a good group to support this.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: I mean, we're all at, uh, that style of hockey,
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: you know, uh, I think we all enjoy that. We all, uh,
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: play a physical game, we all play the rough side
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: and I think everybody's enjoying it.
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: We know that's the way to play, especially in the playoffs.
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: You've got to make sure you're on the right side
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: and you're playing the hard way. Who's going to lead
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: the charge? Hard to say. I always got chirped by Marshy,
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: so I would say he would be the biggest talker.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: I know Chucky has some great chirps as well.
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: It's going to be really interesting again to see who's
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: going to be the biggest, I don't want to say villain,
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: but who's going to be leading the charge. I mean,
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: Brady played two games so far and he was throwing
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: the body around a lot too. So he's a great
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: guy to pick to lead the charge. I think he's
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: going to be the most excited out of all of
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: us joining his brother and playing with Berk.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: It's always something to give more.
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: So I think Brady's going to be a big leader
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: in this part this year.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: No question about it. You had a moment last season, Radko,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: at your collision with Austin Matthews, and then two weeks
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: later you play against Toronto to answer the bell, even
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: though you weren't fully healthy. What can you tell us
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: about that decision to play in that game? What was
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: the response of people around the league?
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: I mean, it was something I felt like I had
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: to do. I always like to make my own mistakes. Myself,
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: I didn't want my teammates to uh, to be targets, uh,
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: during that game. Um, we did everything with, uh, the
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: organization to get me ready to play the game and, uh,
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: to be.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: Able to suit up and, um, answer the bell. So
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: I think I did just that.
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: I think it's a, it's a code in hockey that you, uh,
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: you answer for the actions you do yourself. And, um,
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: I think that was a, that was the right thing
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: to do as a, in the hockey community. Everybody, um, appreciated, uh,
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: me stepping in the game and, uh, playing unhealthy and
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: making sure that, um, I, I answer for, for my
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: mistakes and, uh, I think it just shows the hockey
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: mentality of everybody around. I'm pretty sure a lot of
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: guys in the league would do the same thing and
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: step in and answer the bell.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because we know you personally, me and Nate,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: and anybody that plays with you knows you, and you're
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: just a family man, such a great guy, and such
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: a great teammate. If fans only knew, like on other teams,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: how great of a guy. I don't think they'd be
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: as mad, but towing that line of like, you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: loving that and living in that chaos and be able
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: to switch it off to be just this like very,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: you know, I, i consider you a gentle giant and
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: and dude i played video games with you and like
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: hung out and it's like it's just weird to see
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: the the two sides of you but i think how
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: are you able to detach from that that kind of
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: killer instinct to then right after it's like hey it's
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: it's you're a completely different person off the ice.
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: I mean, I really enjoy both sides of this. You know,
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: I'm having a great time with the family. I don't
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: have to think about hockey as much. There's bigger problems
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: in my home than hockey. So it usually gives me
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: the strength not to be able to think about hockey
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: and then makes my focus more on hockey when I'm
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: around hockey.
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: So I think that kind of.
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: gives me the edge of being able to fully think
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: hockey at this moment.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: And it's a role I'm playing on the team.
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: I think it's an important part of hockey to have
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: guys like that to play physical and not making the
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: opponent's life easy, you know, in front of our net. Obviously,
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: there's two things I would like to take back and
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: learn from my own mistakes. I'm not particularly happy with
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: some of the accidents, but, you know.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: I'm playing the... I'm playing it on the line, so
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: it kind of.
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: Sometimes accidents happen, which I'm not happy about, but it's
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: a fast game out there. But I've got to say,
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: the wife is doing, I think, most of the work
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: with calming me down before I go home. It really
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: allows me to think about hockey much when I get home.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: Like I said, there's always a bigger problem at home
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: and it contains a doll or a broken stick or
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: something going on or a hole in the wall. It's
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: just quigs when they grow up. My daughter is now
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: 11 years old, so those issues are... Those issues are
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: big now, some of them.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: When you were breaking sticks, when you were a kid,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: who was a mentor for you when you played and
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: when you started playing hockey that you watched that kind
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: of maybe got you excited about playing this style of hockey?
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: I mean, my dad, when I grew up, my dad
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: played all over in Europe and we always followed him.
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: I would say since Since a very young age, when
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: I was one year old, we moved to Finland for
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: him to play. Two years there and then Sweden, West Germany.
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: So I grew up at the hockey arenas, different environments.
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: But the one stable thing for me was always my
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: dad playing for the home team. So I watched up
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: growing him or, by the way, grown up watching him.
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: And then I would say once YouTube came in, you know,
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: I started Googling the highlights. And, you know, Dion Phaneuf
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: and Scott Stevens were kind of the two big hitters
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: at that time on the highlights of YouTube, what I
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: can get my hands on. So I would say those
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: two would be the biggest, I don't want to say idols,
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: but guys I would look at with their highlights. It's
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: always fun to see the guy underneath you, you know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: not knowing what just hit him. So it's pretty cool.
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: But that era also has a little bit of different rules.
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: So you have to adjust, you have to learn. Yeah,
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: those were the top three guys I would say as...
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: Those guys I watched growing up. And then, I mean,
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: Czech Republic, you can't say, you cannot say Jagr.
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: You know, Jagr's been everywhere. I mean, still is everywhere.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Still everywhere.
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: Still rocking. Still skating around. I still skated with him
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: this summer, you know. I skated with one of his,
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: with his team. And he's still out there with his
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: ankle weights.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Has he still got the ankle weights and the blades?
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah. Still that.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: To get played in an NHL game with ankle weights
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: on is crazy to me.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah. It is, absolutely. But hey, still rocking it, still
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: doing it, so good for him.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Goody, I always say, man, I say this as
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: a compliment, you are the best hazard on the ice. And,
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: you know, I remember I used to tell you that
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: all the time back in the day. So, you know,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: looking back, you know, on the team you captained with
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: the Ducks and being there and, you know, seeing what
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: happened this summer with Leo Carlson, can you tell us
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: about Leo Carlson from your vantage point and what you
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: saw behind the scenes?
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, Leo is, I would call him a
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: talent that doesn't come around that often.
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: Squig, his vision, his reach, his size.
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: I mean, the first year he was there, he had
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: some hip pain and we found out he's still growing.
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: So he still hasn't reached the peak yet.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Wow, still growing.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: He can carry the play. He can do it all.
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: Some of the things he did at the age of 18, 19,
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: when I was in his age, I had no dreams
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: of being this good in the NHL. He's walking guys
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: in this age. The speed he has, it's incredible to see.
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: First-line center, I think he's going to be big. big
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: man in this league in future years. Once he fully
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: develops into a man, I think he's going to be
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: a scary guy to play against. I think Anaheim did
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: a great job with keeping him because he's a piece
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: that you want to build your team around. I think
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: it was important for them to have him. He has
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: that talent. He has that, I would say, he has
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: that room to grow to be the player everybody paid
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: him to be. I'm really happy for him. Hockey Since that,
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: I feel like the hockey world kind of changed, you know,
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: since this contract. So it's kind of, he's the first
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: guy to do this, make this step and kind of,
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: I would say, open for a lot more of these
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: contracts being handed out lately. So I think he's one
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: of the first guys to do it. I think as
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: a hockey world, we, I don't want to say should
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: tank him, but I know a lot of guys did
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: because it opened up for them to being able to
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: get their contracts. So, yeah, he could be called as
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: one of the first ones to do this.
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: And, yeah, I.
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: I don't want to say he doesn't deserve it, but
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: he's definitely a player that is number one on the team,
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: and he should deserve all the credit.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 18 million a year. He's a rich young man,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. One of our favorite moments from
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: your first time playing the Panthers is you yelling right
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: in Joseph Wool's face, Radko, during the 2023 playoffs. What
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: do you remember about that moment? What was the response
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: when that photo got out?
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: I don't think it was... I don't recall a lot
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: of love from Toronto.
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: LAUGHTER few fingers when we were leaving the arena uh
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: my head spinning right after the l2 because all my
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: blood got out of the out of the head but
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: uh you know just just a great feeling to win
• 36:12
  Speaker 8: an overtime being on the ice and the the gold
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: being poured in overtime i think it's uh it's a
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: great feeling um don't get many of those so um
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: yeah you just lose kind of your emotions that's uh
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: you're pushing for the win you're pushing for everything and
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: it happens you just let the emotions go uh I
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: can say it's my favorite picture out of my hockey pictures,
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: but my daughter does have it on the background of
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: her iPad right now, so.
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: It's pretty fun. That's awesome.
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: I told him sorry right after the game, but the
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: next day the front page in the newspaper was telling
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: the story by.
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: Itself, pretty much.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, that, you know, the beginning of the Rat
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: franchise a little bit with, you know, that was Chucky's
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: first year in I mean, you mentioned how he's got
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: some really good chirps. Do you have any chirps? You
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: could leave out the guy who's chirping, but what's kind
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: of one of the funniest chirps you've heard him say
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: that just everyone on the bench was like, oh, my God.
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: You're putting me on the spot right now. I'm the
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: worst at chirping.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: That's why I know.
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: I can't remember.
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: I'm always laughing, you know, when When I played with
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: Jens here, I spent half of my time on the
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: bench laughing at the stuff he's saying to the other teams.
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: I don't even remember. It's just constant laugh of the
• 37:36
  Speaker 8: stuff that's happening. He's calling guys plugs. It's perfectly set
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: up what he says to them. You can't ask me
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: to repeat it.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: He was my D partner. Dude, you make a good
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: pass and he's yelling, Miami, son! My Amy's son. You're
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: going up the ice and you're like, is this for real?
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I'm in an NHL hockey game. And he's just, it
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: was a lot of fun playing on the back end
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: with him. He's a different character now.
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: We get the hands team. You know, we knock the
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: puck down and make something nice. Hands team.
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: Right now from Jackie, I can't remember anything specific right now.
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: You're putting me on the spot.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I know. Making you blush under that beard.
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: Moving a little bit, yeah.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, go ahead. No, go ahead, Nate.
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: Go ahead.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: No, no, go ahead, Nate.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Nate.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: I got shut down on my question. So I'm out now.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I'm in timeout. I'm in the penalty box.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Goody, I was just in Tampa, you know, not too
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: long ago. And, you know, looking back again, you know,
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: you were on that Norfolk team with John Cooper and,
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: you know, Surprisingly enough, Nikita Kucherov, I played with him
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: on a line when he was called up, and you
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: played with him before that.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: That's a lie.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: I know, look it up, we were on the same line.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: Was he somebody, like, right away you were like, all right,
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: this guy is going to be exactly what he is today.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Did you see it?
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: I can say I saw what all he can do.
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: There was something that's like, okay, this guy is a
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: little different than everybody else, and he sees it a
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: little differently. But to get to this level, obviously there
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: are some bigger minds in the organization that saw it.
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: When he first got called up and he was making plays,
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: he was like, okay, he belongs here. But right away
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: from the get-go, I don't think anybody could guess that
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: he's going to be the franchise leader in points. and
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: being an MVP, putting up 120 points every night or
• 39:39
  Speaker 8: every year. There was always something special about him, but
• 39:43
  Speaker 8: just the way he carried himself to where his work
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: ethic you know you still hear stories about him going
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: on the ice all summer and just working on his
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: passing picking a box off the wall and just spending
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: hours on the ice every day in the summer it's
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: something that doesn't come along it's not gifted he worked
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: on it so you you can see he's or you
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: know he's working on all the little things that maybe
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: look uh like luck, but there's no way those things
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: are luck. He knows exactly where he's putting himself. I
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: think by him understanding what he all can do and
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: by his work ethic, he grew into this player that
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: he is. He always had something, but I think he
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: worked his bag off just to get himself put in
• 40:24
  Speaker 8: the situation where he is right now. Yes, he has
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: a talent, but I also think the hard work there
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: is inevitable. Anybody who who dated with him in the
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: summer or anybody who played with him knows that it's
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: not just talent.
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: It's, it's, it's hard work.
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: It just doesn't, maybe it doesn't show because he plays
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: so casually, you know, but, uh, it's, it's behind him there. So, um,
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: their work ethic has to be there. So I'm, I
• 40:48
  Speaker 8: gotta say, um, I don't think I can be a
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: pretty good hockey scout.
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: After this, eh?
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: It's a pretty good scouting report. No, I wanted to
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: ask you actually following up on that scouting report, which
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: was beautifully done by Kucherov. He's casual, but good. It's,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: That's it. That's all you need. Casual.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: But do you hear his comments the other day? I
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: kind of liked it when he was like, Hey, the leagues,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: you know, never been more talented and fast, but it's
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: a little dumber. And in the way that cooch speaks,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: it's kind of funny. He's just so blunt. Do you
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: kind of agree? Do you kind of agree? Like where
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: the league's gone of not, you know, as eloquently as
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: he put it, but you know, that it is so
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: fast and talented, but maybe the IQs went down a
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: little bit. Do you feel that as a defenseman?
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: Definitely.
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: A lot more of the pucks are getting dumped, I
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: would say. There's maybe less creativity. But on the other hand,
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: everybody's getting... I don't want to say we're getting ready
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: for the playoffs, but the playoff hockey is a lot
• 41:43
  Speaker 8: less creative than it is in the regular season. You
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: get some of the teams wanting to play playoff-style hockey
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: right away. They're putting the campuses on it. That could
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: make it a little less likable for the eye, but it's...
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: It makes more sense in certain situations. We made fun
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: of it here, of his comments, of his Russian accent.
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: How dumb it is.
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: We do have a couple of Russians too, so it's
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: pretty cool to hear them speak on this base. I agree,
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: the hockey league is getting a lot quicker. Guys are younger,
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: guys are faster, they're more skilled. But they don't know
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: how to kick in a soccer ball anymore. maybe a
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: little more one-dimension in the hockey world, but the hockey
• 42:32
  Speaker 8: world's getting better. But then you pass the soccer ball
• 42:34
  Speaker 8: to them, and they can't kick it back to you.
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: So it's an interesting environment right now, the way it's turning.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Last one for you, Radko. You're on the, listen, Mount
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Rushmore of the greatest beards in hockey history. I think
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: of Ray Bork with the avalanche. I think of Joe Thornton, J.D.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: 's former teammate. I want to ask you, when's the
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: last time you were clean-shaven? You remind me of that
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: buddy you have in high school. He's had a beard
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: since he was 16. I can't imagine you clean-shaven. When
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: was the last time?
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: That's been years now. It's been years.
• 43:04
  Speaker 8: When I do trim it down, I usually keep the
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: mustache or something, at least to have something, which is
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: not the favorite at home, but the kids love it
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: when I do something like this. You have to trim
• 43:14
  Speaker 8: it down a little bit, but I can't say I...
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: I can say I own a razor that is for
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: my face, you know?
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I think if you were totally clean-shaven, your kids would
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: be scared of you. They wouldn't be able to recognize that.
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: I do recall, I think I played in Washington since 2019, Christmas.
• 43:35
  Speaker 8: I didn't shave it, but I trimmed it to very small,
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: I would say maybe a quarter of an inch, and
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: I'm walking down the stairs on Christmas Day, and my
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: boy is three and a half years old, and he's like,
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: watching TV, and then he turns towards me, and you
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: can see.
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: The scare in his face, like, ooh, man, walking out of.
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: Mom, mom, like, who is this, you know, start talking,
• 43:59
  Speaker 8: he's like, okay, the initial face.
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: Is like, who is, like, wow, what is this, who
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: is this, like, that was, I.
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: Remember that, but now when I go, like, when I
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: go trim, when I, when we go in the playoffs,
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: and it's big, and I go trim it at home,
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: and I'll make sure the kids are with me or
• 44:15
  Speaker 8: all around me see like how much beard you can
• 44:17
  Speaker 8: take off and you can take off cheeks that it
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: actually somewhere underneath there there's a face but yeah it's
• 44:24
  Speaker 8: been years.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: God I'd love I'd love to see you play for
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Lula Amorello yeah I was thinking.
• 44:29
  Speaker 8: The same thing that's why I didn't get drafted earlier
• 44:33
  Speaker 8: that's why you knew I was shaving it's great so
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: he's like yeah there's no way we're getting this guy.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I could just see the kids being scared that quarter
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: inch dad dad it's a new look dad now watch
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: out be scared Radko, this is great, man. You've been
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: a terrific player for a long time. Certainly one of
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the most entertaining players in the game. A great heavy
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: hitter and a great teammate. Have an awesome season with the.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Panthers, man.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Can't thank you enough.
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: Thanks, guys. Thanks for having me. That was fun.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: All right, we continue right now. We'll get into our
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Metro Division preview. Once again, thanks to Radka Gudis. But
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: a cinephile in 60, Tal had reviewed I Swear on Netflix.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: So I said I'm going to have to watch this.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: And as he said, it's a genuinely heartwarming story about
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: a guy with Tourette's. But as he even points out
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: in the movie, a lot of things that I say
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: are quite funny. He cannot control these compulsions in which
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: to swear and insult people. And how about the fact
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: the scene, the one scene Tal, he's trying to get
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: a job as a janitor essentially. And he makes a
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: cup of tea for the guy. And the guy says,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you, this is the best tea
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I've had. And his response is, I use spunk for milk.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Later on, he's getting a warp. The queen, he says,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: fuck the queen. Later on, he's going to deal drugs
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: for a little bit of extra money on the side.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: And the cops stop him. And the first of the cops,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: you've been taking illegal substances. There's nothing like that. He goes,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I've got drugs up my jumper. I've got Tourette's. I
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: can't help what I say. He goes, is that right?
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Let me see your hands. I've got drugs up my jumper.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Crack cocaine, you cunt. Half-price heroin right here. He goes,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: that's enough. They go, well, fuck off. You're a cunt.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: You're a cunt. You're a cunt. This movie is one
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: of the funnier movies I've seen in a long time. Again,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: and it balances the fact that it's genuinely heartwarming and
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: a terrible condition, but also one that can't make you laugh.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: How about he gets locked in a car with another
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: girl that has Tourette's, and they both scream all these compulsions,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: all this stuff that they just cannot wait to get
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: rid of, and then it's so cathartic for them afterwards.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: A great, great scene.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I feel like we've been playing Tourette's
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: for laughs for a very long time.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: And they do that in this film, definitely.
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: But this is the first time I think this is
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: the first time we see a film try to help
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: us understand what Tourette's is, how it works. And then,
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: like you said, he eventually becomes kind of an advocate
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: for Tourette's and starts helping other people with the condition.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: And it's it's wild. To see a room full of
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: people with Tourette's.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Just going off. Oh, just fucking giving it?
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Just everything they want to say. It's like Larry David,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: just getting everything out.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Do you think people will jump on this now that
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: it's kind of becoming more fashionable and people just pretend
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: to have Tourette's?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: You think that people are just.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Well, Tourette's is having a moment.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: We were talking about that before. Because, I mean, you
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: can say anything you want, and I can say, I
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: have Tourette's. I have Tourette's.
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: And then, like, I can't control what I say. But
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: you have to keep up.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: The facade all the time.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Like, if one thing you do.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I know.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, every.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Dude, DeMers is cursing, and every 30 minutes, he's just
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: ripping people. Nate, you asshole. Burke, you fuck. Like, hey, Jay,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: you don't have to say that. Sorry, I have Tourette's.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Burke, you suck.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Jay, please.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I'd say more than that if I... I'd say more
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: than that about you.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Also, J.D. wasn't here for last week's Emmy Awards. I
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: wanted to say this. Michael J. Fox gets the Career
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Achievement Award. Bob Hope Mediterranean Award was great. Ray Sehorne wins,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: which was awesome. Great to see. Your thoughts on any
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: of the awards shows? I know you're not an awards
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: show guy, and you like to make fun of the
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: awards themselves, but Mariska Hargitay had a moment. Her and
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson, they're together. The big news, Widow's Bay, which
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: is a rare show. I don't know if you and
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Jill have seen it. A horror comedy just dominated the
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Emmy Awards. Did fantastic. Your boy, Matthew Rhys.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I just love because Jill did an episode of Law &
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Order with Mariska Argote.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: And a little subtle name drop there, my wife. No,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I like it. But I love that Mariska Argote is
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: there with all these powerhouse people.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: And a lot of people, probably the normal person if
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: you showed her would be like, who's that? And it's
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: like the richest person in Hollywood. And she's been doing
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Law & Order forever. It's crazy.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Like, 28 seasons of Law & Order. Don't you wake
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: up one day and go, I want to do something
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: else with my life.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Well, she's making, like, $ 10 million a year.
• 48:36
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: It's, like, crazy. Yeah, you just can't walk away. And
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: it's the biggest machine of, like, show up. It's just,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: you know, what's the story today? And it's, like, they
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: just fucking plug and play. Like, they're robots. But, like,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: it just works. People love it.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: I was just going to say, I love that Ice-T,
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: someone who made a record called Cop Killer, has spent
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: the last 30 years.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Playing a cop. That's a great one. Look at you.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: The guy at the mashroom, of course, is Dick Wolf.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: If you think his name is funny, his real name
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: is Richard Penis. Emmy Awards in general. Good stuff from
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Law & Order. Any movies from you, J.D.? Any shows?
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Anything you want to pop up?
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything recently. We've been kind of in it.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: I've been watching... I think I mentioned it four or
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: five episodes ago. I've been watching Lanterns.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's right.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Green Lantern. Really good show. And then we finished, we
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: re-watched Succession, so we finished it.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Tom Wombscan wins.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Tom Wombscan.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Fucking love it. What a turn of events that was.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Underestimating that hick from the Midwest.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: He was fantastic. Hey, you got to break a few.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: What is it? Break a few Greggs to make a Tomlet.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I just knew it.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't be Kendall. I mean, I love Jeremy Strong, but
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Kendall is just way too emotional.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: You know, at the end, you kind of hope for it.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: You're hoping the three of them get together, and you're like, oh,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: they can't get out of their own way. No.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: One of the best lines of the show when he said,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: you are not serious people. That's a great line by
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Logan Roy. That is a good summation of his own children.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: All right, we go back to season previews. The Metropolitan Division,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: how they finished last season. The Hurricanes, they lost Freddie Anderson,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Mike Riley, potentially Nikitian, who is still unsigned. They gained nobody. But, Nate,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: this team is still going to be in the playoffs.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: They won the Stanley Cup a year ago.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: They're in.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: I think if there's a team just like previous years
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: of the Florida Panthers that could repeat, Carolina Hurricanes could
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: do that. I was skeptical for a long time, and
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: they made me a believer after last season.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got to take him to go in as well.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Just got to say, Debussy. Brendan Debussy. I like Debussy.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Hellebuck's kind of in. Hellebuck's been clipping the tires around him.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I know Nikitian wants out, so He's eventually going to
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: get traded, and I think he's a guy that could
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: garner some interest. But I think they make it in.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's as clear-cut as last year, though.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Penguins. They're going to be out. They lost Anthony Mantha,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Ryan Shea, Nolichari. They gained Kuzmenko, Nick Robertson, Trevor Van Riemsdyk. But, J.D.,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: they were a feel-good story a season ago. Big Dick
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Dan Mews as you christened him. Now people are on
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: to them. They haven't improved significantly. They still have an
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: aging roster. They're out.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: I got to think they're out. I know, you know,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: they have that huge shining of Koivunen, who's the big piece.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: But I just think on the back end, they're a
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: little weak. I just, you know, I just think they
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: don't have enough on the back end. You know, they
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: got Trevor Van Riemsdyk, Letang, it's like their top pair.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: And then they got, what did they run? Declan Carlisle.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: They got Gerard, Korczak. I just, I don't know if
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: they have enough and if they're going to be able
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: to run with that goaltender. the whole way. So with, uh,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: she lofts is their starter, right?
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Your boy, former teammate.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: I just don't know. So to me, I think they,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: they miss Nate. I agree.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: I think that last year was a bit of a, uh,
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: outlier for them, uh, with, with how everything went down.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: But I think just the, the depth of the Eastern
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: conference too.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, they might be, who knows on the outside
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: looking in maybe close to making it, but I don't
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: think they squeak in just with, um, just with how
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: competitive Eastern Conference is, I think there's a lot of
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: other teams just better than them.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: That brings us to the Philadelphia Flyers. I know JD
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: has them out. Nate, they lost Garnett Hathaway, Emile Andre,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Samuel Anderson, Rodrigo Abuls, almost gained Leo Carlson, but they
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: didn't have Joe Wohl, Nolan Chari, exactly, fan of the show,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Nolan Chari, Simone Benoit. Flyers, good young core. Porter Martone
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: takes a big step in the playoffs or not?
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: They're out. I'm sorry.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Flyers, but I just think, you know, you
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: look at their center depth and with all due respect
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: and lack thereof. And I love that Danny Breer went
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: out and tried to get Leo Carlson, but I think
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: they're going in the right direction.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: They are.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: And I like some of the additions. But I think
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: in the end, just like I said before, with the
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: rest of the Eastern Conference and some other teams we're
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: going to be talking about, I don't think they get in.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: You said last year, JD, without Dan Vladar, there's not
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: been a playoff team. So if Vladar maybe falls a
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: little bit, there's just not enough to overcome.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got Joseph Wall and Vladar's hurt right now.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: He's got hurt in the preseason game. Uh, so Joseph
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: wools in there, they do have a backup, a better backup,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: I think than last year. Can he stay healthy? I
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: just don't know if they can do it again. I think, um,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: I think the way they played winning in shootout and overtime,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: and they're one of the biggest teams that were, you know,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: overtime or they were shootout merchants. Right. I don't know
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: if they can do that again, so I think they miss.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I think this Eastern Conference got better, and I think
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: they kind of stayed just the same, and I think
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: they're just going to be on the outside. I think
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a battle in the East like
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: it always is, but I think Philly hits a couple snags,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: and they hit a couple bumps in the road. They
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: didn't really have a ton of adversity last year. I
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: think they get some this year, and they miss.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: All right, Capitals are in. They lost Connor McMichael, Trevor
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Van Riemsdijk.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Are they ever?
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: No, they got Kairou, they got Tuck, they got Boone Jenner. Exactly.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: They're going to win the division. How about that, JD?
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, they're winning the division. Yeah, so it's a lock. Nate?
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: They're in.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, all their additions, I mean, you said it.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, those guys, and then on top of, you know,
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: Ovi being Ovi again, I think he still gets 30,
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: and they're in.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: And like JD said, I think this team could win
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: the Cup for sure.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Blue Jackets we discussed earlier, so I don't want to
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: waste time on that. They're out, right?
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: We agree on that? I'm off of them now, for
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: fuck's sakes. Figure it out over there.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: All right, I want to hear your guys' thoughts on
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: the Islanders, J.D. They lost Anders Lee, David Riddick, Susie.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: They gained Michele and Vanacek. Another year of Matthew Schaefer.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Islanders missed the playoffs last season. Are they in or out?
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: Oof.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: This is a tough one. It's between them and the Devils.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: I'm saying that they're going to be out. I think
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: that Romanov... Romanov's going to help. I think, is Sorokin
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: going to have another, you know, Vazna-like year of just
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: posting 14 shutouts? I just don't know if they're there yet.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I think they miss, and I'm going to say that
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: it's by a nose, but I think they miss. Nate?
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: I think they miss, too.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: I agree with JD. With everything he said, I think
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: that they're not quite there yet, but they'll be in
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: the mix, but they're out.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Devils, that means, Nate, I'm going to guess you think
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: they're in. They lost Jacob Marstrom, Simone Nemecz, but they
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: gained Anthony Mantha, Evan Rodriguez, David Reddick, and a new GM,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Sonny Mehta.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: This one was really hard for me, picking between. I
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: think it was all the New York, New Jersey, other
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: New York team, but I'm going to have New Jersey in.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: And I say that because of what Sonny Mehta's done
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: so far.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: And maybe.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: They're.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: Also in the mix for Connor Hellebuck. And if they
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: add that, that really puts them over the hump.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: All right, Devils fans.
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: We're going to do this again. Another fucking year where
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: we're going to say they're going to fucking make the playoffs.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Jack's going to get hurt all year. They're going to
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: fucking miss.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Now's the time. Ken Danico.
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Get him back for fuck's sakes. I know the old,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: you know, Jake Allen, you know, the old dog. but
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: I think him holding the net down, I think it's
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: going to end up being, what is it, Nico Dawes
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: is going to get the most reps. I think they
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: want him to kind of take it. I think it's
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: going to be a goaltending by committee, but I love
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: the Luke Evangelista pickup. I think it's going to really
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: help the depth scoring. It's going to help Heischer and
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Meyer big time, and I just think that I could see,
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: you know, I need a breakout year. And I, you know,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: I say that candidly, like I need an offensively, an
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: offensive breakout year from Nico. He sure. I didn't need
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: to go. He's sure to, to be the, be the
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: guy for large parts. I know you got Jack, but
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: I need him to be just an absolute killer on
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: both sides of the puck and just put some points
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: up and, uh, him and Timo Meyer. So we'll see,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: but that's, I got, I got him in.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I love it. Love the, uh, excitement for the Devils,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: and this means the Rangers are definitely out. They lost
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Vincent Trojic, Jonathan Quick. They gained Dorofeev, Sean Dursey, Bjorkstrand,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: but they've got a ways to go right now, Nate,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: this Rangers team. I agree.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: I think they are out, but I think they're going
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: to be a lot better this season. I do.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to be close. They're going to
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: be in the mix. I like the additions they have. Like,
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: Sean Dursey's really good defenseman. That's a great addition. And
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: then they got an unbelievable elite goaltender. Like, Shesterkin keeps
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: them in most games. And I think with some of
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: their young guys, Gabe Perrault being one of them, I
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: think he's going to be really, really good this year
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: for them.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: I think they're going to be close.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: But they're out. Yeah, I have him pretty tight, actually,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: a lot tighter. The more I look at it, and
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: this Albert Smith's kid is coming up and proving that
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: he's NHL ready. And their decor is going to be
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: a little bit better than I think people think. So,
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I think they might surprise some people, but ultimately, I
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: don't think they make it. All right.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Last couple topics here before we say goodbye on NHL Unscripted.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Blue Steel. Dallas taking care of same steel on a four-year,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: $ 14. 8 million contract extension, AAV of 3.7, a depth piece
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: for their forward unit, set career highs last season, 12 goals,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: including five game winners, second of the team behind Jason Robertson,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: and 33 points. What do you got, J.D., with regards
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: to steel being locked up by Dallas?
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: If you want to make it and play in the
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: NHL and get paid, be responsible. This is a guy
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: that was an offensive guy coming into the league, and
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: he plays a little bit of everything for Dallas and
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: understands that he needs to be trusted. So Sam Steele,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: way to go. Love it. Good news there.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: And some happy trails we want to pass along here
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: to Kevin Hayes. Announces retirement after a short stint in
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: the KHL. He had a nice career. 445 points. The Rangers, Jets, Flyers, Blues,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: and Penguins. Nate had that great Boston accent. Clearly a
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: very well-liked player. You know, the death of his brother.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: He talked about his perseverance. I wish the best to
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Kevin Hayes.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, one of my former teammates when I
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: played with him in Philly. Just a great guy and
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: a funny guy. Great personality. Just one of those guys
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: everyone wants to be around. Everyone loves him. You hear
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: around the league and how much how well he's liked.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: And I think, you know, with everything he's been through too, it's, uh,
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: it's just a guy you root for. And, and a
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: guy that, you know, when I played with him, I
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: didn't realize how good he was offensively, super underrated, great,
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: great hands that could hold onto the puck like a string.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: So, um, had a great career. So congrats, Hazy.
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: His brother, Jimmy Hayes played 334 games. The Blackhawks, Panthers, Bruins,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: and Devils died in 2021. So obviously with a heavy heart,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Kevin Hayes continued, but This is a guy, J.D., who
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: was a first-round pick by the Blackhawks. Again, 805 regular
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: season games, retires at 34, 12 seasons.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Pretty good career. Yeah, great human being. Russia gets us all. A.K.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Barr's Kazan.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: I played for Kazan. I think he probably went there
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: and said, fuck this, but I mean, I loved my
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: time in Kazan, and you know, it's demanding over there, too,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: and I think sometimes it catches guys off guard, but listen,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: I think he had such an amazing career, and Great
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: human being, great player. And for that size, Silky Mitz,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: I think congrats on retirement and enjoy the golf course
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: like the rest of us.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Episode 99 in the books. Tal, I give the final
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: word to you. A final Wayne Gretzky story, anecdote. You're
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: our hockey historian. What do you got? For episode 99
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: of Unscripted, your thoughts on the great one.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Putting me on the spot a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think people underrate how great he is
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  Speaker 5: as a storyteller. I think we know that more now.
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  Speaker 5: on Turner, but the story about the Oilers' first trip
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  Speaker 5: to the finals when they lost, and then they passed
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  Speaker 5: by the Islanders' room, and they were just completely gassed,
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  Speaker 5: and that's when they learned that you just need to
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  Speaker 5: empty the barrel if you want to win a championship.
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  Speaker 5: That's such an incredible story. He started telling that story
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  Speaker 5: decades ago, and we're still telling that story. Big ups
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  Speaker 5: to Waino. Can't wait to see him on Turner again
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  Speaker 5: this season. 99 episodes. We're going triple digits next episode, boys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, our buddy Paul Bisson has said that as well.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, Gretzky's a great storyteller. You get him around
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  Speaker 1: the table, get a few drinks in him as well.
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  Speaker 1: That always helps, a little liquid courage. He'll get the
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  Speaker 1: stories flowing. 50 goals in 39 games to me, amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, 215 points in one season. I know it
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  Speaker 1: was a different era of hockey, JD, but some of
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  Speaker 1: those 80s numbers from Gretzky were just ridiculous. And the
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  Speaker 1: joke was always, he was last in strength and endurance
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but on the ice, he was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, goalies don't go down in butterfly. You can really.
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  Speaker 2: They really take a lot of the net away.
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  Speaker 1: The genesis of kick, save, and appeal.
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  Speaker 2: Those guys wouldn't go.
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  Speaker 1: They're just kicking everything.
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  Speaker 2: His intelligence is what is just ahead of its time
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  Speaker 2: and his playmaking ability. I just think he... Him as
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  Speaker 2: a competitor, I think, goes... We don't talk about it
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  Speaker 2: enough of just how badly he wanted to win and
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  Speaker 2: how bad he just willed his teammates and demanded so
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  Speaker 2: much and was just so fiercely... So fiercely... Just a
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  Speaker 2: top-notch competitor. And listen, he does amazing stuff. He's all
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  Speaker 2: over the hockey world, whether he wants to be or
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  Speaker 2: he's dragged around. But he loves it. He's in the
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  Speaker 2: TNT at Turner. I think he does a great job
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  Speaker 2: telling stories. And I love hearing his analysis on the
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  Speaker 2: game when he talks about certain players. And he's really
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  Speaker 2: interested about certain guys. It always comes out great because,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just incredible to listen to that guy talk.
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  Speaker 1: And Nate, you know in LA, we look at all
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  Speaker 1: the hockey down these Sunbelt cities. A lot of that
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  Speaker 1: goes to Wayne Gretzky. He was a success with the
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  Speaker 1: Kings when no one was talking hockey as they joke around.
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  Speaker 1: Brothers are walking around wearing silver and black 99 jerseys.
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  Speaker 1: Gretzky made hockey cool.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that his influence goes back even for
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  Speaker 4: all of us probably when we were young. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if I'm the hockey player I am now without
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  Speaker 4: being a Wayne Gretzky fan. I mean, my first ever
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  Speaker 4: NHL game live was in Vancouver against the LA Kings
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  Speaker 4: in 1994.
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  Speaker 3: And he had a goal and assist. I was up
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  Speaker 3: in the nosebleed. Papa Buray had a hat trick, but
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  Speaker 3: he had a goal and assist.
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  Speaker 4: And, you know, I had that silver aluminum Gretzky stick
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  Speaker 4: like everybody else. And, um, I think that's what it is,
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  Speaker 4: you know, what he's done for the sport. And you
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  Speaker 4: said it like there is no hockey in Southern California
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  Speaker 4: without Wayne Gretzky and him coming to LA Kings.
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  Speaker 2: So, um, he's a great one for a reason. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, Nate. You going from Ottawa to L.A. is another...
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  Speaker 2: That's another moment in Kings history. It was starting to
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  Speaker 2: fall through.
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  Speaker 3: Dion and I.
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  Speaker 7: Dion.
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  Speaker 3: You and Dion. He would double Dion.
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  Speaker 2: He would double Dion.
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  Speaker 1: Major trades in L.A. Kings history. Don't sleep on Nate
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  Speaker 1: making an impact there with the silver and black. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: so much for checking in. Thanks for Radka Grus being
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  Speaker 1: our special guest in episode 100. Big one coming up
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