Latest / Motivation Mindset Podcast / Feeling Lazy or Stuck? Andrew Huberman’s Wake-Up Call
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- 0:09Speaker 1: How to fall asleep easily, and how to make sure
- 0:12Speaker 1: that the sleep we have is of sufficient duration and quality.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Now, what if you wake up in the middle of
- 0:17Speaker 2: the night.
- 0:18Speaker 1: This is a very common occurrence, and there are two
- 0:21Speaker 1: general themes around waking up in the middle of the
- 0:23Speaker 1: night that one can use tools to counteract. The first
- 0:28Speaker 1: theme is if you're somebody who is tired in the
- 0:31Speaker 1: evenings and you're kind of pushing yourself to stay awake,
- 0:35Speaker 1: so you're going to the party or you're pushing yourself
- 0:37Speaker 1: to study your work, when in fact, you'd like to
- 0:40Speaker 1: get into bed at eight thirty or nine, and then
- 0:42Speaker 1: you're falling asleep round ten thirty eleven and waking up
- 0:44Speaker 1: at two thirty or three in the morning.
- 0:45Speaker 2: You can't fall back asleep.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Chances are that your melatonin pulse was initiated early in
- 0:52Speaker 1: the night, so that a melatonin pulse started probably around
- 0:56Speaker 1: eight thirty or nine, but you're staying up, you're battling
- 0:59Speaker 1: that meloin and then sometime around two thirty or three
- 1:04Speaker 1: in the morning, that melatonin is no longer present at
- 1:07Speaker 1: sufficiently high levels in your bloodstream.
- 1:09Speaker 2: And you're waking up.
- 1:09Speaker 1: You're getting your morning cortisol pulse shifted into those.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Wee hours of the morning.
- 1:16Speaker 1: You may not like this advice, but one of the
- 1:18Speaker 1: things that you can do to offset that is to
- 1:19Speaker 1: simply go to bed earlier. By going to bed earlier,
- 1:23Speaker 1: you're going to get the longer duration of sleep. But
- 1:25Speaker 1: I realize that there are social reasons and work relaid
- 1:27Speaker 1: reasons why going to bed at eight thirty or nine
- 1:30Speaker 1: is not necessarily beneficial to your life.
- 1:33Speaker 2: So in that case, you might.
- 1:36Speaker 1: Be one of the rare individuals for whom getting a
- 1:38Speaker 1: little bit more bright light in the evening could be
- 1:40Speaker 1: a good thing. So this would be around the hours
- 1:42Speaker 1: of seven or eight PM and in that way causing
- 1:47Speaker 1: that pulse in melatonin to be delayed, because again light
- 1:51Speaker 1: inhibits melatonin. Now, the other thing is many people wake
- 1:55Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night because of anxiety
- 1:58Speaker 1: or because they have to use the restroom. It's perfectly
- 2:01Speaker 1: fine to flip on the lights, but keep the lights dim.
- 2:04Speaker 1: But if you flip on those lights, try and flip
- 2:06Speaker 1: them off as soon as possible and try and get
- 2:08Speaker 1: back into bed. And if you have trouble falling asleep
- 2:11Speaker 1: again and you absolutely need to sleep, that's where these NSDR,
- 2:14Speaker 1: these non sleep deep rest protocols can really be beneficial,
- 2:18Speaker 1: even though the ns the non sleep part, might make
- 2:21Speaker 1: you think that they will prevent you from falling asleep.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Rather than trying to fight your mind trying to fight anxiety,
- 2:29Speaker 1: which is always a terrible thing to do. I would
- 2:31Speaker 1: say it's very hard to control the mind. With the mind,
- 2:33Speaker 1: look to the body, and that's what NSDR scripts do.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Things like yoga, nidra, even the sleep hypnosis done in
- 2:40Speaker 1: the middle of the night, if you wake up and
- 2:41Speaker 1: want to fall back asleep, oftentimes will help you fall
- 2:44Speaker 1: back asleep immediately, and if they don't, they will at
- 2:48Speaker 1: least put your brain and body into a state of
- 2:50Speaker 1: deep relaxation that more closely mimics the sleep state that
- 2:54Speaker 1: you ought to be in than the awake, ruminating, stressing
- 2:57Speaker 1: about the fact that you're not sleeping state. So if
- 2:59Speaker 1: you wake up in the middle of the night, really
- 3:01Speaker 1: try and get back to sleep. And if you can't
- 3:03Speaker 1: do that by doing, for instance, long exhale breathing, which
- 3:07Speaker 1: can work, use some other tool of the body to
- 3:10Speaker 1: shift the mind. And the tools that I'm recommending are
- 3:13Speaker 1: of the non sleep deep rest variety. If you happen
- 3:18Speaker 1: to stay up late, it's still best to get up
- 3:21Speaker 1: at your regular wake up time. It's a very simple
- 3:23Speaker 1: solution to a problem that a lot of people have,
- 3:25Speaker 1: which is they stay up till two or three in
- 3:27Speaker 1: the morning, and then they tend to sleep late, and
- 3:29Speaker 1: then it tends to disrupt their rhythm. Try on most
- 3:32Speaker 1: days and most nights to wake up at more or
- 3:35Speaker 1: less the same time, and try to go to sleep
- 3:37Speaker 1: at more or less the same time. If you get
- 3:40Speaker 1: a poor night's sleep, or if you're up late the
- 3:42Speaker 1: previous night for good reasons, many people feel like they
- 3:45Speaker 1: just want to go to bed early the next night,
- 3:47Speaker 1: but it turns out that's not the best thing to
- 3:49Speaker 1: do for your immediate and long term health. Try and
- 3:52Speaker 1: stay up to the point where you would normally stay
- 3:55Speaker 1: up and then get to sleep. If you go to
- 3:56Speaker 1: bed a couple hours earlier, it's probably not going to
- 3:58Speaker 1: kill you. But try to not go to bed, for instance,
- 4:01Speaker 1: at six pm, because you were up the entire night before.
- 4:04Speaker 1: That can really be disruptive. How to fall asleep easily
- 4:08Speaker 1: and how to make sure that the sleep we have
- 4:10Speaker 1: is of sufficient duration and quality. One way to do
- 4:14Speaker 1: that is to leverage the drop in temperature that's necessary
- 4:18Speaker 1: to fall and stay asleep. So I mentioned earlier, in
- 4:22Speaker 1: the early parts of the day after waking, our body
- 4:25Speaker 1: temperature is rising, and that continues throughout the day, and
- 4:28Speaker 1: then sometime late in the afternoon, our temperature peaks and
- 4:31Speaker 1: then it starts to drop. That drop in temperature of
- 4:35Speaker 1: one to three degrees is vitally important for us to
- 4:38Speaker 1: be able to fall asleep easily. One way that we
- 4:41Speaker 1: can decrease our transition time into sleep is to accelerate
- 4:45Speaker 1: that drop in temperature. And one way to accelerate that
- 4:48Speaker 1: drop in temperature, somewhat counterintuitively, is to use hot baths,
- 4:54Speaker 1: hot showers, or if you have access to one, asauna.
- 4:58Speaker 1: If you are to get to a sauna or a
- 5:00Speaker 1: hot shower or a hot bath and then get out, your
- 5:03Speaker 1: body is going to engage particular mechanisms for cooling itself
- 5:07Speaker 1: off that are going to allow you to drop your
- 5:10Speaker 1: temperature more quickly and fall asleep more easily. And this
- 5:13Speaker 1: is why many people find that falling asleep after a
- 5:15Speaker 1: nice hot shower, bath, or sauna is really really easy
- 5:20Speaker 1: and really terrific. It's sort of a natural state that
- 5:23Speaker 1: follows hot baths, saunas, and showers. You will experience a
- 5:28Speaker 1: growth hormone release from sauna, hot bath, and hot shower,
- 5:31Speaker 1: provided they are done for sufficient duration and sufficiently high temperature.
- 5:36Speaker 1: It is absolutely true that keeping the room very dark
- 5:39Speaker 1: is beneficial. Some people, including myself, have thin eyelids and
- 5:43Speaker 1: it doesn't take much light to wake up the brain
- 5:45Speaker 1: and body, so keeping a room very dark is essential.
- 5:49Speaker 1: The other thing is keeping the room cool. You've probably
- 5:51Speaker 1: heard this before keep the room cool, get under warm blankets,
- 5:55Speaker 1: but rarely as it discussed why keeping the room cool
- 5:58Speaker 1: is useful. Reason and keeping the room cool is useful
- 6:02Speaker 1: for getting into and staying asleep is that throughout the
- 6:05Speaker 1: night there are phases of sleep where you are paralyzed,
- 6:09Speaker 1: so called rem sleep. That's a healthy paralysis, so you
- 6:11Speaker 1: can presumably so you can't act out your.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Dreams, but there are portions of the night where you
- 6:15Speaker 2: can move.
- 6:15Speaker 1: And one of the more important movements that you do
- 6:17Speaker 1: in the middle of the night is put your hand
- 6:20Speaker 1: out or your foot out, or you take your face
- 6:23Speaker 1: out from under the covers as a means to cool yourself,
- 6:26Speaker 1: and you.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Do this while you are asleep.
- 6:28Speaker 1: If you are in a cool room, you can put
- 6:31Speaker 1: yourself under the blankets to stay warm, and then if
- 6:34Speaker 1: you want to cool off, you can simply remove a limb,
- 6:37Speaker 1: or you can toss the covers off entirely. However, if
- 6:41Speaker 1: you are in a room that's too warm, it's very
- 6:44Speaker 1: hard to cool off. You would need a bucket of
- 6:47Speaker 1: ice water, or to get up and turn on the
- 6:49Speaker 1: air conditioning or something of that sort, or turn on
- 6:51Speaker 1: the fan. So it's a simple but non trivial way
- 6:54Speaker 1: in which we can improve our entrance to sleep and
- 6:58Speaker 1: staying asleep the room cool or cold, and get under
- 7:02Speaker 1: warm blankets. I do enjoy food very very much, and
- 7:07Speaker 1: so my dinner is carbohydrates and some protein, so maybe
- 7:11Speaker 1: some chicken or fish or something like that, maybe some eggs,
- 7:13Speaker 1: or sometimes just pasta or just rice and vegetables. And
- 7:17Speaker 1: that's because I enjoy those foods, but also because I
- 7:21Speaker 1: want to increase the amount of serotonin in my brain
- 7:24Speaker 1: so that I can actually fall asleep that night. Many
- 7:26Speaker 1: people who are on low carbohydrate diets struggle with falling
- 7:29Speaker 1: and staying asleep, and that's because it's hard to achieve
- 7:32Speaker 1: heightened levels of serotonin, which are necessary to enter sleep.
- 7:37Speaker 1: I should also mention that melatonin and serotonin fall in
- 7:40Speaker 1: the same pathway. They are related hormones and neuromodulators. Who
- 7:45Speaker 1: won't go into their biosynthesis now. But essentially what we're
- 7:48Speaker 1: talking about is a system that's biasing us towards rest
- 7:51Speaker 1: and relaxation as opposed to wakefulness. You might ask, well,
- 7:55Speaker 1: can't I just take serotonin? Can't I just take five
- 7:57Speaker 1: HTP or a precursor to serotonin or tripp to, And
- 8:00Speaker 1: indeed you can. However, many people, including myself, find that
- 8:04Speaker 1: when they supplement with serotonin in the evening or at night,
- 8:08Speaker 1: that can cause problems in the architecture or the structure
- 8:11Speaker 1: of sleep. Can cause a lot of people, including me,
- 8:14Speaker 1: to fall asleep very fast, sleep very deeply for three
- 8:17Speaker 1: or four hours, and then wake up and have a
- 8:19Speaker 1: terrible time falling back asleep. And that effect, at least
- 8:22Speaker 1: for me, can last several days. It's really disruptive. So
- 8:26Speaker 1: I don't like to supplement with anything that is directly
- 8:29Speaker 1: dopamine or a precursor to dopamine at any time, or
- 8:33Speaker 1: directly serotonin or a precursor to serotonin. Rather, there are
- 8:36Speaker 1: other things that can enhance the transition to sleep safely.
- 8:39Speaker 1: But the evening meal consists largely of carbohydrates for that
- 8:43Speaker 1: specific purpose of generating a sense of calm, And of
- 8:47Speaker 1: course carbohydrates are delicious, and because I'm doing some physical
- 8:51Speaker 1: training and presumably you are as well, I hope you are,
- 8:54Speaker 1: because it's so beneficial to one's health. That's also going
- 8:57Speaker 1: to replenish my glycogen stores, which is one of the
- 9:00Speaker 1: primary fuel sources for moving one's muscles and moving around
- 9:04Speaker 1: and doing exercise, as well as for the brain and
- 9:06Speaker 1: for cognitive function. So low carbohydrates throughout the twenty four
- 9:10Speaker 1: hour period are not something that are attractive to me.
- 9:13Speaker 1: I realize that some people will do much better on
- 9:15Speaker 1: a low carbohydrate or even ketogenic diet, but for me,
- 9:19Speaker 1: and I do believe for most people, creating a situation
- 9:23Speaker 1: of maybe fasting and then low carb or no carb
- 9:27Speaker 1: diets for states of alertness and focus.
- 9:30Speaker 2: At one portion of the day and then.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Ingesting starts to carbohydrates for sake of inducing rest and
- 9:36Speaker 1: relaxation is a at least scientifically rationally based protocol. It's
- 9:42Speaker 1: grounded in real neurochemistry, It's grounded in things that we
- 9:47Speaker 1: can point to and say, ah, this food substance, this thing.
- 9:51Speaker 2: Can support my brain.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Not directly because it's some magic substance that's gonna make
- 9:55Speaker 1: all my neurons, you know, extremely robust, but rather it's
- 9:59Speaker 1: going to support sleep, which is perhaps the foundation of
- 10:03Speaker 1: all mental and physical health. In fact, we can point
- 10:05Speaker 1: to sleep as the primary way in which we can
- 10:09Speaker 1: ensure our overall health, including our brain health.