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Abdul El-Sayed on Iran and Israel, the Richneck Video, and Pete Hegseth on Nidal Hasan · KSEV Mornings with Craig and Wayne

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  KSEV Radio.
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  From the, near the top of the Senesta B Cave Hotel in B Cave, Texas.
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  Wow.
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  Alright.
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  Why are you there?
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  That's where I am.
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  Why?
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  Well, how much can you tell us?
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  Well, I can tell you a lot because I'm coming to babysit my grandchildren.
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  Oh, okay.
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  Liam, Juliet, and Arthur James.
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  Gotcha.
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  I thought you were investigating someone and maybe there's gonna be like a sting.
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  You're gonna attack somebody?
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  I investigated the rooftop hotel bar last night.
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  What was your report?
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  Well, you know what?
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  Some things are just, I have a confidential informant I met in the bar.
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  No, I'm just kidding.
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  I have no idea.
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  I was up there, they have a nice rooftop bar here and I was out here, had a couple of,
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  you know, island drink, as you know.
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  No, of course not.
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  I've never heard that.
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  By the way, you seem to be a rooftop bar guy.
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  You seem to like the rooftop bar.
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  Is that true?
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  I like outside.
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  Yeah, me too.
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  I don't really enjoy sitting at a bar next to some Yahoo.
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  I don't know who says, hey, are you wearing a go?
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  I don't want to talk to him.
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  I just don't.
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  So I like to be outside.
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  I could sit by myself.
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  I don't need any friends, company.
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  You could come say hi and then leave.
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  And it'll be great.
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  Do people not walk up to you outside?
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  When you're outside, not inside?
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  Did they not still come up and go, hey, you're Wayne Dolcefino?
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  For some reason, it doesn't bother me when I'm not in a close...
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  I don't think I'm claustrophobic, but I'm not a huge fan of being all crammed into place.
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  I'm really not.
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  And I don't like loud music in places when I'm drinking.
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  Sure.
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  I get it.
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  You asked me if we switched to topics.
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  You did ask me about the Michigan debate, and it sounds like you watched some of it.
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  Did you watch that at the rooftop bar?
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  As a matter of fact, that's awesome. I was I was sitting outside last night
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  And I I was like the only person out there cuz you know, it's a Thursday at you know in BK of Texas
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  Who the hell here and I actually watched the entire
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  Debate Wow and when someone can't tell me
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  whether
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  Iran or Israel is more dangerous
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  that to me that's just the disqualifier for me. Yeah it should be a disqualifier
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  for most of us. Yeah I mean I could I could buy I could buy a lot of things
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  right because I do understand people's perspectives but if you can't if you
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  can't make that connection. Well and you know what I'll say it another way too
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  because I think this is what the left uses to pretend they're telling the
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  when they say this stuff. Is Israel dangerous to someone out there? To the Hamas terrorists? Yeah.
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  Israel is dangerous to the Hamas terrorists. Is Iran dangerous to us? To the United States? Do they
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  want to kill and harm us? So if I were asked a question as a politician on the stage, who is
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  more dangerous? And I think about it in the context of I'm about to be a US politician, it's an easy
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  answer. Israel is not remotely dangerous to the United States, but for the lefties, they don't
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  Change that person into being a victim even if they're not even if they're a terrorist group and then say look danger is the same
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  Yeah, I'm not cuz there's some things that I couldn't say look
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  I don't I think make it for all would be like ridiculously stupid multi-triggered dollar expensive, right?
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  Yeah, although I'm on Medicare as an old official old person of America and I think it's great
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  Right. So part of me could say yeah, if it doesn't cost me anymore, then sure
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  I'm fine with that. Right? I mean, I don't have private health insurance anymore. So no from Wayne just being Wayne in his personal place
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  I think sure I think Medicare is great, right? I
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  Could understand that the Iran is real thing impossible. It's almost like
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  Dude, you're like this is America and look I I can criticize
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  the Netanyahu government for some things that they've done.
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  Okay.
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  Sure.
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  Which I think is called America.
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  But I think.
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  I think it's called America.
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  But at the same time, how you even, how you like sort of say, that's a silly question.
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  That's stupid question.
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  No, it's not.
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  It's a great, it's a perfect question.
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  Because unfortunately, the politics of this election is being framed on that.
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  I hate to say it, but that seems to be a pretty big issue, right?
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  The people that, these DSA people, these what economies, whatever they are, are these freak
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  shows.
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  Now, I've been sending you, and you haven't shared that with the audience, but I've been
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  sending you various stories about various candidates.
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  I mean, the guy, the gay bondage dude who did pictures.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  That's right. And I'm going like what a cast of characters these are. No, right. I mean we've gotten way past the point where
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  well, this guy doesn't seem like he's that fun and
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  To like he is a like transgendered right
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  quadroplegic
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  four-time
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  Olympian something I was like, I don't even know what these people where did these people come from? I don't know and you're absolutely right
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  It's not like they just have differing opinions anymore.
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  They are truly like representative of some crazy, crazy individuals that exist in our
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  society and should never ever be in charge of things.
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  You also love to send me videos of the Talia Yusef lady.
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  Yosef.
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  I love her.
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  Yeah, she's incredible.
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  I love her.
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  And should you tell people who she is or do you want me to?
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  You can.
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  You know.
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  I have no idea where she's even located.
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  I think it's California.
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  because we did potentially hear from her and we might be able to get her on as a guest in the future.
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  Oh, man. That would like make...
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  I know. I know you'd be happy.
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  Can we have her meet me at the rooftop bar?
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  Sure. I don't know if it'll be in Texas. You might have to get back out to California.
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  I will meet her at a rooftop bar.
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  Of course you will.
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  First of all, I think she's kind of cute.
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  Right, of course.
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  But whatever, sorry.
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  Her content is also incredible as she attacks people's defenses of Hamas and terrorists
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  and does it in a really simplistic way. Yeah, she does this split screen thing,
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  where it's her and she... I don't know how she gets these guys, but these either Palestinian
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  Arab guys or something, and she has conversations with them. As soon as they find out she's from
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  They start calling her like a ho. Yeah, right? Yeah saying she's a this or that and she starts calling them like monkeys
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  Don't be crazy. It's just a
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  By the way, I think I know how she gets the guys to do the show. She's an attractive woman
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  I think that that's how she gets them
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  What was it? It was James O'Keeffe's his his organization that did a great job a project Veritas
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  And I know he has his own now too did a great job of undercover investigating with like the secret camera thing
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  It was always an attractive person trying to you know be sent into a room
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  Sometimes it was a dude trying to be into a room and pick up another guy
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  You know what? I think he's a little bit more
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  Evil than I am I think I think could be true. Yeah, I and I also not not you
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  I think he's a little bit too much. I mean look it's one thing to begin to yourself, right?
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  Like, you know, people could say, you know, Wayne, you're a narcissist, whatever.
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  And I go, yeah, sure.
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  But but I don't know.
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  He takes it to a level that he does.
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  I agree with that.
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  It's a little bit outside.
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  But but, you know, unfortunately, I feel bad for these poor guys.
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  He's like nerdy government guys.
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  Like, you know, he works in the Department of Defense Logistics.
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  You know, the guys probably never had a date in his life.
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  Right. And then some hot, hot, hot woman.
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  Right. Yeah.
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  I think we should see these women.
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  I know it would blow their undercover,
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  but I would like to see whether or not they're semi-attractive
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  or just the most beautiful women in the world.
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  I don't know, like you said, most of the guys
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  who get on the camera, you don't assume
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  they're dating a lot of women, so I don't know if they're,
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  but they honeypot them.
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  You're being nice.
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  Really?
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  They're not dating any women.
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  Yeah, they don't look great.
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  They're not the winners out there.
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  And then you honeypot them, and you get that information
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  on a camera somewhere, and you put it out there in the world.
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  I don't do that.
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  Yeah, you asked me about this. I'm not that you asked me about this crazy x-rated Democrats dude like who has weird
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  Porn stuff and other things that have resurfaced right? There's that guy too out there. Yeah. Yeah, that's great
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  It's just crazy the world we live in right now makes absolutely no sense and then he's the bondage guy
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  Yeah, the bondage there you go. We gotta be careful on the radio
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  That's probably as much as we say he's got like a leash around them or something
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  I'm going what a great campaign photo, right?
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  But we I know we got a break coming up in just a little bit and that's okay
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  I know the after the break we can actually dive deeper into the Michigan debate though
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  Because the most interesting thing that happened and maybe we'll try to get Russell to play some of the audio of it
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  Was when the moderator jumped in because it was getting very
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  You know like attack each other kind of yelling and screaming sort of thing and I don't hate seeing that
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  And I don't think I was shocked because of how crazy Abdul Al Sayid is that it could get there.
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  But obviously it's probably not beneficial in the world of a debate.
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  But we can talk about that.
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  We can talk about a few other things when we come back after this break right here on KSEV.
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  700 a.m. with Wayne Dolcefino on location and not even his office this time.
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  Not even my office.
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  I think you got to start bringing the little version of...
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  Don Corleone.
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  Yeah, Don Corleone's got to come with you.
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  Yeah, no, I was going to... I'm going to get a mobile phone.
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  I go quick break a lot more can see radio the voice of text
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  radio in
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  lovely scenic Houston and
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  And, B Cave, Texas, where I am this morning, traveling.
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  This is the first time that I've actually joined you
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  in a place that's not my office.
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  And I could show you my hotel bed,
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  but you know that's another story.
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  That's fine.
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  But I do need to bring some Italian memo-rabilia.
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  You do.
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  Like perhaps some used cannolis in the back,
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  like half-eaten cannolis,
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  sure, I get it.
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  Or something, because this is not an attractive color.
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  No, and it's funny. I will say this about like us and a couple listeners who've asked me if the mob guys is inappropriate
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  As a like a nickname for us, which is silly because we're definitely doing it tongue-in-cheek
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  Neither of us is breaking anybody's legs and we are
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  Alright, he would and we both happen to like mob movies
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  But the reason I bring that up is we were just talking off-air about the video of the six-year-old kid
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  who, it's just surreal to watch the things this child says in front of cops about...
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  Go ahead.
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  He's the guy who shot his teacher.
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  Yes.
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  Remember the kid that shot his teacher?
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  When was that?
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  That was January 6th of 2023, I think.
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  Yeah.
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  And apparently, the video was played in court, but it's never been shown publicly until,
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  I guess it was released yesterday.
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  I don't know if somebody sued over it or why.
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  But I think that video and audio may best demonstrate part of the demise of
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  America. That a six-year-old child, my grandson is six, and I know, I mean, he'll
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  say like pee pee or something and I'm willing to go crazy, right? This kid was cussing more than I do.
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  Yeah, and I do and I cuss a lot of you off the air we do but but I can't
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  The you can't I can't even see no
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  I was gonna ask Russell to play the audio, but that's probably begging for us to get an FCC
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  No, they bleeped it out on NBC
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  Yeah
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  What was it? Okay on Fox 2 because essentially the kid
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  says, you know, I'll quote some of them,
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  if you want a piece of me, come get it, B word.
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  He says the F word multiple times,
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  a six year old child who had used a gun
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  to shoot his teacher that he took from his house
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  is shockingly deplorable as a human being
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  beyond even just the shooting part,
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  like the shooting part horrible,
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  but then the way that it's not like an accident
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  or something, because he's a six year old,
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  it's intentional and the way he speaks
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  is just it's surreal.
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  And so I agree with you wholeheartedly that it seems to be a demonstration of our society
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  crumbling.
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  And I don't know what the catalyst to that is other than the internet.
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  Like I think the internet, okay go ahead.
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  All right.
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  Look, you know me, I don't care what anyone thinks, right?
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  I and I preface this by saying I actually love black folk. I've told you this before.
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  I the best people I've ever interviewed were older black women on a porch in the Third
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  Ward, but they were very deep and very, you know, family oriented.
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  blah, blah, blah.
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  Somewhere since the 60s, men, folk, a lot of them, not all of them, some of them are
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  great dads, right?
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  But some black folk just started, some black guys just started leaving their women.
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  And they had sex and had babies and got the heck out of dodge and didn't pay for them
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  and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  And you raise generations now of kids in neighborhoods who have no father figure.
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  It's the disintegration of the family unit fair that leads to that
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  But it's also learn I mean that little six-year-old kid
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  Didn't learn that from watching Paw Patrol, right? Which is one of those. Yeah, one of those
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  Right, right
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  You didn't get that from there. No, no, you know, it's it's two things actually cuz I agree with you
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  I grew up without a father in my home. Actually, I was raised by a single mom
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  But what I really think is interesting about what you said is there can be anger that comes with that as you're growing up as a kid and you don't have the same experience as other people do.
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  And then beyond the anger component, there can be other issues that we're seeing to the extreme with this child where you said like there's a value system that's also not added.
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  Pop is the one in a family that when a kid acts out is usually the one to tell the kid to behave better and
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  The threat of dad being mad at you is usually the thing that makes you behave better
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  Mom doesn't have the ability to do that as well. You remember the way till dad gets home
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  Yeah, wait till your father gets well, and here's what I'll say because this is important in families that have a dynamic like this my
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  Grandfather filled that void and I've talked about this on radio before other places
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  there are opportunities in families to find that.
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  Unfortunately, what you see in some of the families
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  you just described as those roles don't also
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  jump in the picture enough to do it.
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  But my grandfather was around enough
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  when we were living in Jersey and he was living in Jersey,
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  which was his whole life, and for us a while,
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  where if Craig or my little brother
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  had done something wrong,
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  Grandpa was the one who talked to us and then it stopped.
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  Yeah, no, of course.
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  My dad used to chase us around with a belt.
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  Yeah, so I'm a 50s kid. I grew up in the 50s. Sure. So I
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  I was born in the 50s. I didn't grow up in the 50s
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  Like I was born in the 50s and my dad I I was much younger
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  So I don't remember it, but my brother who I you know
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  Remembers it not a big fan of my dad's but my dad used to chase around with the belt
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  But you know what? Yeah sort of learned not to sass daddy and I'm not recommending no, you know
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  physical punishment. I'm just, there's got, but look, it's, I don't even know the family structure. I'd be honest. I don't.
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  Yeah. And if there is a mother and father in that home, then they must be talking that stuff in front of the kid.
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  Of course, of course. You don't get that.
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  And honestly, the other thing that I'm thinking about as we talk about this is like I see
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  not this, not something as horrific as the six-year-old in the way he's behaving after shooting someone,
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  but a version of like disobedience that I wouldn't have realized in my childhood every day.
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  I go to a grocery store and I watch a little kid like yell at their parent to buy me more candy
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  and the parent just kind of takes it and that even is a transition in our society where
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  and I think it's a good reflection of some other things we see.
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  They're gonna claim that if they do anything to punish the child even like verbally
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  that that's gonna damage them too much so that they'll become a victim
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  like the parent thinks they're a victim and then there's no form of any kind of
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  You know, you don't get what you want all the time, which is creating a lot of people in their 20s
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  Who now want everything for free from the government? Here's where it went wrong. So when I was young we used to play
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  Cowboys versus indigenous peoples
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  I don't even remember that. In the 50s.
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  I don't remember that game.
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  You don't remember that game? Cowboys and Indigenous people.
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  Yeah, you only played it on certain land, land that they owned.
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  We used to play Cowboys and Indians all the time.
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  And I used to have these big soldiers.
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  So the Japanese soldiers were yellow, okay?
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  The German soldiers were gray.
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  And the U.S. soldiers were green, right?
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  And I had hundreds and hundreds of these soldiers.
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  Yep.
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  Could you imagine today when I tried to look online for some yellow Japanese soldiers?
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  You got canceled.
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  All my grandson has now are dark green and lighter green that looks almost the same color
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  green.
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  Yeah, that's not good.
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  And one's supposed to be Japanese and one's supposed to be American.
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  I'm going, you can barely tell the difference
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  because we're afraid of offending somebody out there
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  with, what is it?
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  When did we become so mushy?
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  You know, it's funny, I had a friend of mine
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  married with a kid, moved from New York City to Illinois
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  and kind of close to where I was living in Illinois
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  at the time, so I went to go see her and her family
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  and we hadn't talked in years.
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  Like it had been a while since I'd seen her
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  and I got into her garage and we're like helping her
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  move some stuff because they were still moving in
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  and she had a little toy police car,
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  like one of those little ones
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  that a kid would drive around in,
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  she apologized to me for it.
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  She goes, someone gave it to us as a gift,
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  and I'm like, Ashley, I'm not the kind of guy
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  that cares about this,
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  but she had just come from New York City.
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  So she assumed that people would get mad,
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  and I'm like, I hope he rides that car all the time now.
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  It's crazy.
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  I know.
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  But we see that everywhere.
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  And honestly, I think this is the same thing that causes some people to side with Hamas,
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  a terrorist group, because they think to themselves, well, there's a victim.
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  I think I see the victim.
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  And I'm a victim, of course, every day in my life, whoever I am, whatever I do.
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  So because of that, I need to make sure that, you know, I support these other victims.
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  I will say this.
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  And it's just part of this cultural discussion.
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  He was a big fan of Archie Bunker.
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  All in the family.
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  When we could make fun of ethnicities and this and people just thought it was funny.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  It wasn't like, yeah, I don't like those people.
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  No, it was funny.
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  Right.
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  So when I talk to my staff and I make jokes, it's a joke.
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  They take it so personally, you would think I just...
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  Slap them in the face.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  Yeah.
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  And I go, and they're looking at me like, did you really just say that?
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  I'm going, it was a joke.
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  Yeah.
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  And like, lighten up.
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  What is wrong with everybody?
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  Now the all in the family thing, we need that show to just come back exactly like it was.
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  Some TV station should just put it on as a new form, like new actors.
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  I know we still do reruns, but they should do like a new version of it, all the same
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  scripts, all the same words, and see how many people go insane.
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  Because I think people would be insane all over the country.
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  We call it the DSA channel.
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  And we can play counter programming through DSA.
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  Awesome.
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  Yeah, that sounds great.
• 21:36
  I know we got a video to Russell, but I did tell him to make sure that it's clean.
• 21:39
  So maybe we'll later play, maybe in the second hour we'll play the audio of the kid.
• 21:43
  We're going to trust Russell to take out the effort?
• 21:45
  No.
• 21:46
  I think we sent him one of the TV versions that's clean.
• 21:49
  Although I know he could do it.
• 21:50
  He's got the skills.
• 21:51
  But we'll probably play that in the second hour for anyone who hasn't seen it.
• 21:54
  Why are you always saying he's got the skill?
• 21:56
  He's good!
• 21:57
  Why do you feel like you...
• 21:57
  He's good!
• 21:59
  Why do you do the opposite?
• 22:01
  You know what, actually, hold on.
• 22:03
  Such a big fool you are.
• 22:04
  Such a big fool.
• 22:05
  Oh, there we go.
• 22:06
  There we go.
• 22:07
  Here's the thing.
• 22:08
  I'll tell you this, Wayne, because you brought it up.
• 22:10
  So now we're going to talk about it.
• 22:11
  My mother is a clinical psychologist.
• 22:13
  She listens to the show constantly.
• 22:15
  She asked me recently.
• 22:16
  She's like, why is Wayne so mean to Russell?
• 22:19
  And I'm like, it's a joke, mom.
• 22:20
  It's a joke.
• 22:22
  My god, what is she like, become a spill flake too?
• 22:24
  No, no, she's not.
• 22:25
  She just didn't know if you actually didn't like him.
• 22:27
  And I'm like, no.
• 22:28
  Well, it's possible I don't like him.
• 22:30
  I try to keep those things to myself.
• 22:32
  No, I love Russell.
• 22:32
  I think this is how you show in, Deerman,
• 22:35
  because you crap on me too.
• 22:36
  And that means you like us.
• 22:38
  If I didn't like you, I wouldn't talk to you.
• 22:40
  Exactly.
• 22:41
  All right, quick break, a lot more.
• 22:43
  The talented Russell Sherrill has taken us into this break.
• 22:59
  I love this song. KSEV Radio, this is the voice of Texas. I am Craig Coglianese. He is
• 23:08
  Wayne Dolcefino and we are the Mob Guys. And you were just telling me somebody was texting
• 23:12
  you? So I have a former employee named Mike Carl, who used to have known since Channel
• 23:18
  13 days who moved to Alabama, Mississippi, one of those places. I don't know where it
• 23:23
  is. And you said, do you have a bag on the hotel bed? Looks like something is on it in
• 23:31
  the background. And I said, it's a woman. I told you, you asked me why I was moving my
• 23:39
  camera and I said, because somebody had a way to waking up women. Okay.
• 23:45
  Okay.
• 23:45
  That was a heck of a rooftop bar for you then, huh?
• 23:49
  That went well.
• 23:50
  I do well.
• 23:51
  I do well.
• 23:51
  You don't understand what that's like.
• 23:55
  Partly because I'm married, man.
• 23:56
  That's partly because I'm married.
• 23:57
  But yeah, also I don't.
• 23:58
  I'm just joking.
• 23:59
  And I know.
• 24:00
  All right.
• 24:00
  We have the audio.
• 24:02
  Russell said that he's got it.
• 24:03
  The kid.
• 24:04
  So we can just play it now.
• 24:05
  This is, I think, NBC News' version and the bleep version of the horrible things the kid
• 24:10
  was saying after trying to shoot and kill his teacher.
• 24:12
  of the shocking shooting at Virginia's Rich Neck Elementary School in 2023.
• 24:17
  Where is the weapon? It's on the floor. It's over there.
• 24:20
  This is moments after the six-year-old shooter seen here fired on his teacher, Abigail's Werner,
• 24:27
  hitting her in the hand and chest. The video made public for the first time.
• 24:32
  If you want a piece of me, come get it.
• 24:35
  The first grader swearing at a different teacher who was holding him as police
• 24:40
  police start processing the scene.
• 24:42
  My mom, that's it. Yes, I stole
• 24:46
  that from my mom. He threatens
• 24:48
  the officers. These new disturbing
• 24:52
  images shining a spotlight on his
• 24:55
  state of mind. His I mean,
• 24:58
  he doesn't have the gun
• 24:58
  residue. Looks like we could stop it.
• 25:01
  We probably think we get the idea.
• 25:03
  We get the jet. Yeah, that that is real.
• 25:06
  And they say a first grader.
• 25:07
  He's a six year old kid that's
• 25:09
  saying that to the police after trying to kill his teacher.
• 25:12
  Yeah, I don't even know what to say about that
• 25:16
  because that's clearly learned behavior.
• 25:19
  Right.
• 25:20
  Oh yeah, 100%.
• 25:21
  Like that's a household that teaches that type of thing.
• 25:24
  And that's a house, that's a neighborhood.
• 25:28
  There's just so many things wrong with,
• 25:32
  and that's not like different culture,
• 25:34
  that's just wrong culture.
• 25:36
  And I really think we need,
• 25:39
  and that's why we were talking about Kennedy of the day,
• 25:43
  we really need a reset in this country.
• 25:47
  People need to stop asking for stuff from their government.
• 25:52
  Their government is not their mommy.
• 25:55
  No, and their government's not gonna give them
• 25:57
  the thing they want in the way they want anyway.
• 26:00
  The government also doesn't give you the stuff
• 26:02
  in a beneficial way to you.
• 26:03
  They hurt you in the process of promising you anything.
• 26:07
  It's a shame that so many people believe
• 26:08
  the promise of government.
• 26:10
  You know, I don't understand that.
• 26:12
  I will say this too,
• 26:13
  because I'm thinking it about that learned behavior.
• 26:16
  I've met a lot of people,
• 26:18
  and maybe you have too in your life,
• 26:19
  that at one time were not really good people.
• 26:22
  Like they are, they're not in jail at the moment,
• 26:24
  but they had done some bad things in their life before.
• 26:27
  Wayne's raising his hand like it's him.
• 26:28
  I knew one guy who like was drug trafficking and stuff.
• 26:31
  And then he did an interview on one of the stations
• 26:33
  I was at about being reformed and changing. And I remember asking him off the air what he was taught
• 26:38
  in his life. And he was taught everyone's out to get him. He's not going to succeed. No one is
• 26:43
  going to let him. He's a black guy. No one's going to let him rise to the top of the ladder. And so
• 26:48
  he thought, and he said the thing that you hear a lot, cliche or not, he thought this was his only
• 26:54
  route to any level of success. Do some illegal stuff and get mad at the people who get mad at you
• 26:59
  and blame them for the reason you're doing the illegal stuff in the first place,
• 27:02
  I have long said, and I think a couple Republican black politicians have said too,
• 27:09
  that it harms the black community to tell them that life's unfair.
• 27:13
  Saying that to them, like specifically unfair to you,
• 27:16
  makes people try less hard to succeed.
• 27:20
  And it becomes a part of that, you know, self-fulfilling prophecy that becomes a problem.
• 27:24
  Well, look, I'm not naive in the sense that I understand that the way this country was
• 27:32
  born and the way it progressed, a lot of black folks ... I've had people come to me whose
• 27:39
  land was stolen 100 years ago by some white guy.
• 27:45
  I get some of ... I get the anger, I get the frustration.
• 27:51
  But we've had affirmative action in this country.
• 27:54
  When was affirmative action passed?
• 27:56
  60s, 70s, yeah.
• 27:57
  It was like 50, 60 years.
• 28:00
  At what point can we just-
• 28:04
  61.
• 28:05
  61, it's literally 60, if I could count, 65 years, right?
• 28:13
  The affirmative action is on social security now.
• 28:17
  Right, now I'll say this too,
• 28:19
  because we're saying this out loud,
• 28:20
  and actually a lot of conservative shows wouldn't do this.
• 28:22
  the generational wealth argument that black people make that you know two or three generations before them it was more challenging to
• 28:30
  Build the wealth that can pass down that's gonna get it. Yeah, that's not necessarily wrong
• 28:34
  There there's an aspect of truth there now granite
• 28:36
  They make the assumption that every white family has generational wealth and a lot of us do not
• 28:41
  There's not a bunch of wealth being passed down from generation to generation in every white family
• 28:46
  I've been on the list like that is a valuable argument
• 28:48
  But when I hear someone today tell me that they can't succeed because they're black,
• 28:54
  I sort of laugh at that because in a lot of ways, our society right now seems to kind of
• 29:01
  disproportionately help people that are minorities and claim that it's to make the things fair.
• 29:08
  Like when you looked at, I think this was the best example because I don't want to get in
• 29:10
  trouble for saying this and not back it up, like Harvard acceptance rates, when they looked at the
• 29:15
  Harvard acceptance rates, especially like Asian American kids, uniquely harmed by their
• 29:20
  inability to get into that school and have the best test scores out of everybody because
• 29:24
  they were letting in black students with lesser scores and said that they were doing it to
• 29:28
  be fair.
• 29:30
  And look, I think it is time that we commit ourselves to never mentioning the words again
• 29:37
  except to physically describe someone.
• 29:40
  Sure.
• 29:40
  Like, hey, who was that guy?
• 29:42
  I was that white guy with the blue hat and the flowery blue Hawaiian shirt.
• 29:48
  That guy?
• 29:49
  That guy.
• 29:49
  That's the one.
• 29:50
  All right.
• 29:51
  But other than that, I don't want to hear it.
• 29:54
  I don't care what color you are.
• 29:56
  I don't care.
• 29:58
  What do you think? I don't care about any of this. I just want you to shut up and work and stop whining.
• 30:08
  That's why I always talk about, oh by the way, they had DEI Thursday. You ever watch Jesse Waters?
• 30:15
  Yeah, I do.
• 30:17
  At DEI Thursday? I just love his DEI Thursday.
• 30:20
  They're great. I just noticed we have a phone call.
• 30:23
  Oh, sorry.
• 30:24
  No, that's okay. I'm trying to pull it up. I can't pull it up. Who is it? I don't know. I can't pull it up my computer right now. What's going in?
• 30:29
  That's the part I don't know. Oh, Jimmy. All right. Jimmy's called in. Jimmy. Jimmy X, who we haven't heard from in forever. Is this Jimmy X? Oh.
• 30:37
  It is. I've been on special assignment. Oh, dude. He's back. I was wondering if you started to not listen to the show anymore. What do you got, Jimmy?
• 30:44
  No, no. I've been on special assignment. Okay, good. It happens. No, that was so funny. I know it was a joke because of what I say.
• 30:53
  I know I just regarded it as true, Jimmy X. You're actually caught about the six-year-old,
• 30:58
  right?
• 31:00
  Yeah, I mean, I distinctly remember this incident and it was really odd that oftentimes in cases
• 31:09
  like this, when there were two people of different races, it is always reported about the race,
• 31:18
  except in this case, I've never heard this described as a six-year-old black
• 31:24
  student shooting his 23 or 24 year old white teacher. Yes. And it really seems
• 31:32
  like on the opposite end of that we often hear white police officers
• 31:37
  shooting innocent black man or black woman or whatever, black teenager. But we
• 31:43
  I never ever hear the opposite description
• 31:46
  and that is always positive.
• 31:48
  And I'd like to get your POV on that.
• 31:51
  Yeah.
• 31:52
  Go ahead.
• 31:53
  Go ahead, Greg.
• 31:53
  Well, I did want to say something.
• 31:55
  Even right now, the elementary school
• 31:58
  has not officially released the ethnicity of the child,
• 32:02
  but the video is hard to refute.
• 32:04
  So even now, there's a version of what Jimmy is saying
• 32:07
  that tries to hide aspects of the story.
• 32:11
  His mom, who had done interviews, I think at some point, is a black woman.
• 32:15
  Yeah.
• 32:15
  So like you can figure this out.
• 32:18
  But what's crazy about what Jimmy is saying, and obviously the thing that we didn't even
• 32:22
  probably specifically say, he is a little kid who's black.
• 32:26
  But media and the school are still trying to prevent that from being a part of a narrative
• 32:31
  even now.
• 32:33
  What do you want to say about it, Wayne?
• 32:34
  Well, you remember, and it's sort of the same thing.
• 32:38
  You remember the, I forget the town, there was a parade where some black guy went crazy
• 32:45
  in a car and drove over a bunch of older folks and young folks entering a parade somewhere
• 32:52
  up in the middle of the country.
• 32:54
  I thought that was in New Orleans.
• 32:56
  No, not that one.
• 32:56
  Oh, you're talking about the Wisconsin one.
• 32:59
  Yeah, it was Wisconsin.
• 33:00
  Yes.
• 33:01
  That's right.
• 33:02
  It was the Christmas parade.
• 33:04
  Yeah, it was the Christmas parade in Wisconsin, yes.
• 33:05
  The coverage of that in the media lasted about a day.
• 33:11
  It wasn't like 24 hour balls to the walls, five days of coverage.
• 33:17
  No, it wasn't.
• 33:18
  If that was a right wing white guy who decided to run over a bunch of black folk.
• 33:26
  Or even like a gay pride parade.
• 33:28
  If a white guy drove into a gay pride parade.
• 33:30
  That's even better.
• 33:31
  It would have been talked about for, it's probably still talked about right now if it
• 33:34
  happened a year ago. But because it doesn't fit a narrative, they ignore it.
• 33:39
  Once the media said, Oh crap, that was a black guy. That's not going to work. It
• 33:45
  doesn't work as well. They got out of there so fast. They were out of Wisconsin
• 33:51
  before they had the first funeral. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Go ahead.
• 33:57
  Hey, Craig, let me be clear. This is not an indictment against the black race.
• 34:04
  Of course not.
• 34:04
  It's more about the media and the reporting and the fact that we've created this narrative, and you kind of hit on that both of you, that all white people are bad.
• 34:16
  All white people are evil. All white people have an advantage.
• 34:19
  Right and it's because of cases just like this where we don't report the truth and the fact
• 34:25
  Yeah, and we only selectively describe it. That's how narratives get creative
• 34:30
  What I I told you Jimmy
• 34:32
  I think I've told you when you've called into other shows that I've done here before that like I've been in newsrooms
• 34:36
  Where news directors were making this argument that we can't give this information out with the rest of the story
• 34:43
  Because it'll harm the community that this bad person is a part of and it's surreal to hear someone do that
• 34:49
  Go ahead Wayne. I was gonna say it was I had never even thought about what color the kid was
• 34:56
  I never saw the interview with the mom. I I just said that's a screwed up kid
• 35:00
  I don't I mean, obviously he's a screwed up kid. I don't know what color he was didn't care didn't matter
• 35:06
  Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't part of the story to me, but
• 35:11
  But the if it was a white kid and the teacher had been black
• 35:17
  Oh my God.
• 35:18
  You can guarantee it would have mattered to the media.
• 35:21
  Well, and I hate to say this, but if you injected politics too, like if the family had been
• 35:25
  Trump supporters, the odds of them brainwashing their Trump kid to shoot a black woman would
• 35:30
  have been...
• 35:31
  They would be talking about it on The View today again.
• 35:33
  Like I said, it would be forever.
• 35:34
  And so it is...
• 35:36
  It's the kind of thing...
• 35:37
  I'll say this to both of you, and I'd love both of your reactions to it, that I actually
• 35:40
  think does radicalize some white people that, you know, you never hear about this stuff.
• 35:44
  and it acts like some people are real bad and some people are real good and the hiding
• 35:50
  of these narratives can make some individuals start to think that there is like a truth
• 35:54
  to some of the things we at least talk about that people say that's crazy.
• 35:59
  It's actually the best way to describe it.
• 36:01
  John Stewart when he was talking about Kanye West and all the Nazi stuff Kanye was saying
• 36:06
  and I don't agree with John Stewart on everything said the best way to prevent someone from
• 36:10
  believing something is to talk about it, is to put all of the topics, all of the
• 36:14
  pieces, all of the information into public, you know, record together. When
• 36:20
  you hide stuff is when you radicalize people. And so I think even the hiding
• 36:24
  of this narrative can cause some people that are on fringes to go deeper into
• 36:28
  their fringe. But you guys could both, Jimmy, you can respond first. What do you
• 36:32
  think of that? Yeah, well, I agree with what you're saying. And I'd also like to
• 36:37
  introduce another topic that I think relates to this,
• 36:40
  and that is Secretary of War Pete XS announced
• 36:44
  the announcement yesterday that on December 3rd,
• 36:48
  they're gonna live stream the execution
• 36:51
  of a despicable human being who killed 14 people
• 36:55
  at Fort Hood.
• 36:56
  Yes. Oh yeah.
• 36:57
  Yeah, Nadal Hassan.
• 36:58
  His execution will be live streamed.
• 37:02
  And I think that's great.
• 37:05
  I have no problem. I know that people are up in arms about this. Go ahead, Jimmy.
• 37:11
  No, man. I, look, I served at Fort Hood, okay?
• 37:16
  Wow.
• 37:18
  What that guy did when he walked into an out-processing center and killed fellow service members, a civilian,
• 37:28
  And they always report that it was 13 people killed.
• 37:33
  It was 14 because one of the ladies was pregnant.
• 37:36
  And guess what?
• 37:37
  She had decided to keep her baby.
• 37:39
  So that's a human being.
• 37:41
  So it really should be 14 people that were murdered that day.
• 37:45
  Okay.
• 37:46
  And the fact that it's taken now what, 16, 17 years to finally bring this guy to justice.
• 37:55
  Thank you, President Trump.
• 37:56
  Thank you, President Trump, for finally, okay?
• 38:00
  Because it happened under the Obama administration, and remember, they tried to describe this
• 38:05
  as what?
• 38:07
  Workplace violence.
• 38:08
  Oh, yeah, that's right.
• 38:10
  I remember that.
• 38:10
  Horrible.
• 38:11
  Yeah, we shouldn't even laugh at that.
• 38:12
  It's horrible.
• 38:13
  Well, the-
• 38:14
  But it-
• 38:14
  No, you're mean.
• 38:15
  Yeah, no, I know.
• 38:16
  At the same point, both of us understand the ridiculousness of it.
• 38:19
  Go ahead, Jimmy, what else did you want to say?
• 38:20
  But the way the way that was all reported, you know, as workplace violence is very similar to how we're not describing
• 38:29
  Yeah, the shooter in this case and the victim. Okay. Yeah
• 38:34
  And so, you know when you come from a media background
• 38:40
  I
• 38:40
  Mean it's pretty safe to say
• 38:43
  Journalism is dead. Yeah
• 38:46
  Is Jimmy a reminder propaganda's alive and well
• 38:50
  Yeah, it reminds me of the transgender thing, you know, when there's a, you know, a shooter
• 38:56
  and mass shooter, and they're transgender.
• 39:00
  And you don't, I mean, the media's out of there in about 10 seconds, right?
• 39:05
  Because God forbid we would discuss that people with genetic abnormalities are sometimes
• 39:12
  crazy in other ways, too.
• 39:13
  There was a manifesto that a transgender person wrote that they...
• 39:17
  Yeah, go ahead, Wade.
• 39:18
  Yeah.
• 39:18
  Yeah, he's either media like still talking about the manifesto and crying every day to get it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah desperate to get it
• 39:25
  It's ridiculous
• 39:27
  Are you gonna watch the?
• 39:29
  Firing squad. Yes, not just you Wayne, but I imagine Jimmy X. Are you gonna watch it?
• 39:36
  I'm gonna if I have to pay for it, I'll watch
• 39:41
  And it's for anyone that doesn't know I don't know if we said this it's a firing squad because this is a military execution
• 40:09
  So this is Death by Final Squad.
• 40:10
  Shooting innocent people who out processed in the army.
• 40:40
  You need to hold bad people within your group accountable.
• 40:44
  Not everybody in your group, but the bad people who are supposed to serve the country, who
• 40:48
  do something bad, whenever someone in military outsteps what they're supposed to do within
• 40:53
  that role that they have in society, the people I always hear from first, like Jimmy X, that
• 40:58
  want the punishment to be as severe as possible, are other military ... There's no blue wall
• 41:04
  of protection or that crap that they try to claim sometimes.
• 41:07
  There's definitive this person needs to be punished to whatever extent is appropriate for whatever the crime they committed was and I imagine you
• 41:13
  Agree with that too Jimmy, and that's that's something I really love about getting to know
• 41:18
  Military people is that how easy it is to be like I don't care if it's one of my own if they did something wrong
• 41:23
  Punish full step full extent of the law
• 41:27
  Can can we order to code red I order to code red no
• 41:32
  Or are you gonna say Wayne?
• 41:33
  Wayne, what were you gonna say?
• 41:34
  I was gonna say, can we get like big screens outside like in Discovery Green?
• 41:39
  Yeah, yeah, let's do it.
• 41:41
  Let's do a whole thing.
• 41:42
  Alright, we gotta let you go Jimmy.
• 41:43
  Thank you for the call buddy.
• 41:43
  We gotta take a break because we're way behind.
• 41:45
  Sorry Russell, I got lost in that one.
• 41:47
  We'll take the break.
• 41:48
  We'll come back.
• 41:49
  We'll probably do a very quick segment and then after throw to the news on the voice
• 41:52
  of Texas KSEV Radio live from Houston and also Wayne is on location.
• 41:58
  Where again Wayne?
• 41:58
  Are you on location?
• 41:59
  B Cave Texas.
• 42:01
  B Cave Texas.
• 42:03
  Look at the technology.
• 42:04
  More after this.
• 42:19
  KSEV radio.
• 42:21
  This is The Voice of Texas.
• 42:23
  I am Craig Coglianese.
• 42:25
  Wayne Dolcefino went downstairs to the lobby of the hotel to get an ice coffee.
• 42:29
  Russell and he's like I need my iced coffee and I go now is the best because
• 42:34
  I'm gonna be on for two minutes and then we're gonna have to go to the news
• 42:37
  because we went so long in that last segment Sharon called in off-air to tell
• 42:41
  us even more about how Obama reacted and people might not actually oh I gotta
• 42:46
  mute this so that that doesn't play twice Obama reacted and people might not
• 42:50
  remember this as much as they they should but how he reacted after that
• 42:55
  Fort Hood shooting and it was atrocious. It was horrible and it's because as everyone said as Jimmy said as
• 43:01
  Wayne and I also said the the narrative didn't fit what they want and the other thing that drives me crazy about that stuff
• 43:07
  Just real quick is when something horrible happened somewhere and who's ever in charge whatever president it is
• 43:12
  they don't want to go to the place like there was a Trump supporting community that dealt with a
• 43:19
  Like tragic thing. I will Biden was in office and you don't want to go and like people get asking him
• 43:24
  Are you going to go to that community and and recognize that they just went through something difficult?
• 43:29
  And he's like, no, I'm not going to do anything.
• 43:30
  They say yes. And then they just don't go like that's ridiculous to the need to play politics more than care about people
• 43:37
  is one of the strangest things I think that exists in that world in general when you when you talk about politics and all of it.
• 43:44
  So I just I can't get over how horrible that is.
• 43:47
  But I'll just echo what Sharon was saying off the air that yes, Obama did quite a few awful things
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  after the Fort Hood shooting that luckily is now going to get changed because of Trump
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  and Pete Hegseth and the public, you know, live streamed firing squad death punishment,
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  death penalty punishment.
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  I will come back in a bit.
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  Wayne will be back.
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  He'll have his fancy coffee from the hotel lobby on the voice of Texas 700 a.m.
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  KSEV radio.