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From T‑Shirts to Subzero: The 1940 Hunt That Turned Deadly · DuckFellas Podcast

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Welcome back to the Duckfellas Podcast, episode 24, hosted today by Tyler, Cade, and Zachary.
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Hello, guys. Hello. What's up?
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Back on the road. I heard Minnesota's beautiful this time here Do what?
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I heard Minnesota's beautiful this time here Yeah it only hails Like golf ball sized hail Every day,
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That was terrible. Terrible.
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Well, we'll go ahead and mention the giveaway that we got going on as we do
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every week. Make sure you go and get entered into that giveaway.
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It is on our Instagram and Facebook pages.
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Top of the page, pinned post.
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Just go do the requirements and get entered to win a blind one or two.
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Do it for your family. Jesus. Uh-huh.
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Do it. We're coming for your family. Come back and I'll give you stuff.
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Dear God. Getting rowdy.
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Dude's getting tough already. Monday, baby.
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I feel like we're missing somebody per usual. I feel like we are too.
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It's just fucking... It's worse than part-time, honestly. Is there a fourth guy? Allegedly.
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Could have called me. Boy.
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I don't know. Whatever. Pookie hates us. It's official.
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It happens. I feel like that list is pretty long. I guess I'll be right here.
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The list is long the people he hates or what?
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No, the people that hate us. Oh, well, yeah. It's like never ending now. Yeah. No.
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Not enough paper in the world for that one.
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A lot of paper have to do with it. to write down on the people hey me here comes
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checking it twice oh you can do that on my computer nowadays or a phone technology,
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We can barely figure out how to get this going every day, let alone do that.
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Hey, we had, like, no issues today, though. No. It's going better.
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I should buy some fucking wood to knock on.
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Well, I seen a post this week and did a little looking into it.
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I mean, the drought monitor for, like, the Dakotas and even,
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like, the whole prairie pothole region is looking a lot better than it was in
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the middle of winter or even last year.
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Yeah, that's good news. So I can only imagine with how much rain we've had in
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the past two weeks, three weeks.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm in southwest Minnesota right now, and it rained this morning,
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and now it's raining again this afternoon.
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Just fucking hail him.
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That's thunder, and I might need my thunder buddy.
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Thank God she's laying next to me.
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I love to see it, though, right? I mean, obviously across all states,
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but monitor Iowa, a little closer to any other states, but it's good to have the moisture.
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I mean, rain every day is kind of blue to me, obviously. It's springtime,
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and everyone's looking forward to nice weather, but that was much, much needed.
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And we're making good rains, too, for keeping moisture.
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Yeah, for sure. Not productive for racing, though. we've been getting straight fucked on out.
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You can't spend more money every weekend? No, I still spend it.
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There's something all waked on our shit.
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Check it out. You okay? Are you having a stroke? Yeah, kind of.
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No, I'll do something real quick.
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Anyways, this week is going to be kind of a fun one topic.
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It's kind of crazy what happened, but we're going to talk about the Armistice
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Day blizzard of 1940 and what all transpired and kind of led into that day.
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It's a really crazy story, to be honest, of how that happened and what all happened
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that day. Yeah, that was some wild shit.
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I hadn't known anything about it until you wrote up and started doing a little
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of these, obviously, deep diving into it and some articles and stuff like that.
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And it's not something I could ever imagine being involved in or prepared for.
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No, there's, I mean, well, back then, I mean, this was, this happened November 11th of 1940.
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So there was no technology to tell you, hey, a storm's coming,
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seek shelter immediately.
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There now nowadays unless you don't have service your
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your phone's telling you relatively before a storm comes in and everybody knows
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usually a couple days ahead of time i was gonna say your phone's telling you
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like a day or two at a time like yeah you're gonna get fucked yeah constantly
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muting it turn it off go away leave me alone yeah i know i'm gonna get fucked just let it happen,
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just let it happen just let it happen no
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i mean so on that day it really i know that like looking back at the data on
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that day it was it had been abnormally warm that winter up until that point
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and it i think it started out at 55 or 56 degrees kind of what i from what i'd seen,
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And then all of a sudden, you know, it started, it got real windy and started raining.
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And next thing you know, the rain turned to snow and it just got worse and worse.
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And back then, I mean, these old boys are in skiffs. Yeah.
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Not only skiffs, they're in doubled up bird lap. They don't have the shinka
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and first light and everything else we have now.
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You know, they were putting bread bags on their socks. Yeah.
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Yeah, there was no waiters, and,
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either. I mean, you were wearing whatever you would work out for you,
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but there wasn't such a thing as a neoprene or breathable waiter. None of that shit.
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No, if August China's in, he'll probably talk about the rubber ball waiters or some shit.
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That was back when he first started. So that had to be about that fact.
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I don't know. He was probably in his 30s or 40s at that point in time,
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so he should be able to tell us.
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I'm glad you picked up what I was putting down. Yeah. No, I can't.
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He definitely lived it. I'm sure he was on the river that day,
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stranded for a little bit.
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No. No LP heaters. Yeah, Trent. Fun fact. They didn't have heaters.
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He doesn't have it half the time either. No, we never. Well, it's equipment.
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We're equipped with it. It just does not work.
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I'm unequipping the boat. What? Yeah, dog. It's always like the 40-degree days
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you get on the tank and then when we know it's going to be butt-ass fucking cold and raiding.
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It's not my fault that you fuckers use the heater when it's 40 and 50 degrees
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out because it's chilly.
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Well, it's not that it's chilly and we could stay warm but it's so much nicer
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than having a t-shirt and long downs than to be bottled up like that.
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Yeah, I mean, that'd just be dumb to freeze your fucking hands off for no reason.
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Just crack that little heater on and get you a little A little fire cooking
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up front of me and good to go.
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Oh, yeah. There's that.
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Wah. Get over it. Bring your own propane. Anywho. I've even offered several times.
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Like, hey, dog, we need heat for tomorrow. Nope. Nope, we're good.
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Yeah, no, there's definitely going to need a reserve tank in somebody's vehicle on standby.
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Oh, my God. We'll just go back to the ranch to get it. No, that's fine.
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I'll just have somebody else check it before we put the load in.
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And if it seems like it's less than half, we should have put a new tank in.
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Yeah I expect you guys to have plenty of tanks on hand this next year,
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I told you I'm dumping a whole fucking paycheck on them well Zach said he's
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gonna have a truck bed full of propane every day yep so if we run out somebody
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can just buy a thousand gallon tank just to strap in the bed oh hell yeah we can just fill,
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hell yeah I'll top them off every day yeah that'll work,
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why don't we actually do that? That's fucking genius. Nothing we do is we're
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not we're not the genius type.
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I got to go through the bad stuff and then bitch about it later.
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Fair. Yeah, it's more fun that way.
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Yeah, I missed this day.
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Crazy shit. What they say it was like 50 or 60 degree temp swim within a few hours.
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Yeah, within within three hours, it went down to almost sub zero temperatures.
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And then by the before dark, you know, it It was wind chills as low as 55 below.
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Yeah. Which is... That was fucking wild. Dude.
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I think it was like a four-hour swing, and it was night and day.
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I mean, could you imagine going out in the morning, being in a t-shirt and shorts,
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basically, at 55 degrees, 60 degrees, and then halfway through your hunt,
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you're needing every clothing you've ever owned?
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Yeah, and you always said, didn't bring it? No. No, because the weather,
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there was no forecast of this storm.
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Like, I did read one thing where they had forecasted a potential slight storm,
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like nothing major at all.
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And it blew up into what it did. And they were nowhere close on it.
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Well, everybody's predicting that cold front. I mean, we're going to do,
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they did what we would all do, right? Get excited and go hunt because you got that bush coming down.
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I know me and you talked about it the other night, but I was like,
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oh, why can't you just, I mean, I think I would feel the difference and want
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to leave, but she got, you know, they talked about how many hundreds of ducks
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just coming in over their shoulder, laying in front of them.
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It was like, oh, they're fucking bailing you. It's a very fair point.
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I'm not going to leave yet.
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Well, and that's, that's the next, kind of like the next line here that we have
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wrote down is, it was called the push, you know, and it was,
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as the front arrived, the sky's just filled full of ducks. So,
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there's not many people that are going to just like, eh, we better just go home.
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We'll just leave all these ducks be and not shoot our ducks real quick.
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You know, at that point in time, you're not thinking it's going to get as bad as it was.
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So as these thousands of ducks start flying, these hunters are like,
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oh my God, like, this is awesome.
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One of our best days we've ever seen, kill our ducks and go home.
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Little did they know that it was just, that was just the tip of the iceberg of what was coming.
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Yeah, everything was great in finding Danny until the go home part.
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Like I was reading, there's a couple of, you know, they start trying to make
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their way down the channel or whatever, and you can't see 15 feet in front of
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me because of the snow, so it's still white out.
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Right. And the waves, obviously. I think, what did they say?
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It was like up to 80-mile-an-hour gusts or something like that. I got to root down here.
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So, I mean, little skiffs and dinghies and a combination of not being able to
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see. We're probably not making it very far.
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Right. No. I mean, well, and put it this way, too. So, when that wind picked
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up, because I would imagine it probably picked up very rapidly to where you
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either got to leave stuff behind or by the time you get done picking the gear you have out.
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I mean, back then, they had wooden duck decoys, so they were only throwing out
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probably a dozen or so back then.
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But within no time, the temperatures dropped 50-plus degrees.
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Waves were growing up to 5 foot and more in areas.
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On the Mississippi River where a lot of the guys passed away and died,
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that northwest wind that it was coming from is terrible. It blows right down that river.
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And then, I mean, then you got a snow. They had 27 inches of snow reported in
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areas and drifts that were 20 feet deep.
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So with the equipment they had back then, they were not set up to deal with
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any of the above circumstances.
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No, we'd be lucky today to get through that, honestly, I think.
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Yeah, I mean. We'd have to have your boats, or we'd be fucked.
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I mean, getting back to the boat ramp, we'd be just fine in pretty much any
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situation, unless we're out in the middle of the ocean. Then we're cooked.
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Getting home from there is a different story, though. Yeah. No,
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I mean, if it's snowing that much, where you can't see anything,
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and the roads are drifting over, and you're probably sleeping in the truck at
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the boat ramp at that point.
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So, that leads to my next point. we wouldn't have left we would have stayed
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there and hunted and hopefully brought enough food,
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True. Fair point. Hopefully Cade brought a bunch of Little Debbie snacks because we will need them.
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You already know I say strap, dude. The problem is he ate all the crackers while
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I was calling ducks and he was busy bunching crackers.
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You can eat us all on the protein peanut butter thing, jelly.
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I bet they are, but sometimes we've got lots of peanut butter and cheese crackers
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and you're done snarking them down before we're leaving. That's right.
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Cade, you got any more of those crackers, Cade? No.
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I'm gonna break an egg. Don't tell me, dude. Every time I eat the button crackers,
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we just start wrecking shit.
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I'm telling you this, I'm gonna get cases of those crackers for you next year.
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You can just keep eating them nonstop so we kill out by eight o'clock every day.
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Be fat as fuck, though. God damn.
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Well, the good news is we'll be done hunting early enough. You can go straight to the gym.
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Yeah, right, dude. We'll still have to be there fucking and ass-cracking zero dark 30.
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What do you mean? I'll take a nap. Take a nap all day. So take a nap.
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Yeah, but I'm going to start my nap before I go to the gym. It's just the time to get a whole day nap.
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I know how this works. I've done it once or twice. Like you've gone to the gym
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once or twice or taken a nap once or twice?
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Taken a nap once or twice. Okay. I've never been to the gym. What do you mean?
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I don't even know where one of those things are.
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So like in the next crazy thing, you know, with all that transpired to get this storm going,
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it left hundreds of hunters stranded on the river or wherever they were hunting,
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whether it was a lake or pothole, even, I mean, even the pothole guys probably with the intense snow.
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Cause like guarantee those guys stuck it out all the way till the end.
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Cause they don't got to fight waves back home, but then it starts snowing and it's,
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white-out conditions, can't see nothing. Some of those guys probably struggled even getting home, too.
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Obviously, that was back in the day before you had Onyx, so if you can't see
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where the fuck you're going, good luck walking back to the trail.
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You better hope you know that place like the back of your hand.
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When did four-wheel drive come out?
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Well, that's just... Because I'd be curious if they had four-wheel drive back then.
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I think vehicles were front-wheel drive back then, weren't they?
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Yeah, they should have been.
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I don't know. I wish August was here. You could tell us.
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Mass production on four-wheel drive began in the 1950s.
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So, there might have been some early forms of it then, but if it's mass production
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and it starts until the 50s, it's probably not. You're going to say 50? 50?
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1950? No. 1950. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh, I thought you said 1950.
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But it says between 1950 and 1928 was the first highly produced four-wheel drive
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vehicle, over 10,000 built.
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And then they used it mainly for military vehicles through the 20s and 30s.
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So I'm guessing they still didn't have many four-wheel drive vehicles.
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Yeah, so it was probably pretty uncommon that you had four-wheel drive in the
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40s even still at that point. Yeah.
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Which is wild. I mean, you think about it. I'm like, you better hope you got
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a horse and buggy tied up out there so he'll get you home.
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Now we just push a fucking button in the pickup and we're like,
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all right, we can go almost wherever we want.
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Yeah. Until you're coming on a boxcar boat ramp and trying to make a corner
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and you can't make the corner.
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I'm glad you said it so I didn't have to.
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Oh, that was terrible that day. I didn't know I was going to get out of that.
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I was, I couldn't get even, I forget who hooked to the front of me and pulled
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me out was it who was it I think it was Curtis,
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was it it could have been I think it was I think it was Curtis.
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It probably was Curtis I think I know it took everything we had with his truck
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to get me to even move and at that point the ditch on the right is fairly deep
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I was worried about the boat going into that ditch,
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so we made it out that would have been no good no it would have been terrible,
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getting that big heavy motherfucker back out of there yeah,
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I've been calling you guys to come back so we can have all the vehicles hooked
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to it and try and get it out,
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listen if I hook yours to mine and his to yours and his to his and we all just
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take a running start we can get it out,
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I've been a part of a couple of those but it was but none,
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Yeah. Yeah. So like the hunters.
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Real estate would do that with somebody's rental. I can't. News that was.
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No. I don't know what you're talking about. No. I don't. I don't recall.
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I do recall a very nice clean pickup getting absolutely fucking destroyed that day.
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Yeah, I recall that, but I don't know why he got it muddy. It's weird.
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I tried to tell him that's good how in there.
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I'm sure you did the whole way. It just sounded like so much fun.
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Like, yeah, let's just go bomb this truck out real quick.
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Just left the car wash. Let's go straight to the gravel road where there's no
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gravel left. Yeah, the fucking mud room.
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So, yeah, even the ones that are, I mean, if you're talking to Sarmista State
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Blizzard specifically, even the ones that were lucky enough to get back to the
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boat room, Probably had a hell of a time getting back home from there.
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Yeah. Well, I know, like, there was a lot of people that did attempt to get
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back and didn't make it back for,
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like, and then had some of them slam back, and then the others,
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there were some people that drowned, obviously,
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but some people that did make it ashore still had the next fight of getting
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a fire built to heat them, like, warm themselves up, because they wouldn't have
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made it in their vehicle to where they were going.
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That's like one of the accounts that
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I was reading was when I got to him there was a circle
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running that deep of snow because he just kept running in circles trying to
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keep his body temp up and that's a lot better than a lot of guys who have done
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they would try to you know try to hunker down or whatever you know read a couple
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of where guys were flipping over their boats and trying to use that for shelter
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and that's fine blocks the wind in the snow but doesn't block the cold temps yeah.
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I mean at least it breaks the wind yeah But, I mean, you're still going to be cold either way.
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And then, like I've seen the people that were stranded out there on the islands
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use wooden decoys to build a fire with and burn those underneath their boat
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that they're hiding in for heat.
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So that's wild. Think about now, if you couldn't burn the plastic decoys,
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that wouldn't be any fun. You'd be definitely dead then.
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Yeah, not the cold that kills us.
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Melting lead from the decoy weights and then the plastic decoy, you're just cooked.
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Then you go back and, like, if you think about it, we couldn't burn almost anything we wear either.
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No? Oh, really? Like Zortex, you don't want to burn that shit.
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No. They just sit into nothing versus actually burning.
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So we'd be really relying on that propane heater that has no propane right they
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don't need propane just carry a bunch of big lighters.
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Nobody smokes anymore yeah there's that I do have like four or five lighters
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in the boat though that's and if you know read a couple of them where the guys
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didn't get fire started or didn't have the boat or anything like that I know one of them,
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a while that I would have never thought to do, but he dug himself into a muskrat then.
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He did die. Muskrat wasn't the savior, but... Whatever.
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That's the thing, too. You gotta think about when you're... You know you're gonna fucking die.
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The shit that comes into your head to try to do is insane.
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Your survival instincts are gonna kick in, just like a dog or any kind of animal.
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That survival instinct in a human is going to kick in when you're on the edge. Yeah.
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And you're going to do shit that you didn't know you was possible for you to
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do to try and survive. Yeah.
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But I don't know. I did. So like the total from what I've seen,
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there's not like, there's not a for sure total on hunters that passed away from this freak storm,
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but it's between 50 to 85 hunters that passed away and then the total death
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from the whole storm was around like 155 plus or minus people,
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which is, that's wild. That's, that's just one storm.
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Of just a snowstorm, too, and going from warm to cold. Overnight.
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Yeah. How many people died overnight? Was that many?
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And it's, obviously, we're touching on the duck hunter thing more than anything,
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but, like, was it three large vessels on Lake Michigan?
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So, like, I don't know how many fishermen or crew members died there.
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And then there's, they said multiple other smaller boats that capsized and sank.
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So, it's like, yeah, we said 155, but how many bodies are at the bottom of Lake
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Michigan? ability that you can't account for. Yeah. No.
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And back then, they didn't have a way to, they didn't have a search and rescue
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that has the capabilities with their technology. And they didn't have Life360,
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so I didn't, you couldn't tell if dad was out of the boat that day or not.
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Well, the good news is I don't have Life360, so, I don't know what he said. Didn't come through.
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That's the other thing, too. Like, there was no, like, automated system for
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tracking people at all. Like, even, identities back then.
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If it wasn't for your family saying that you were missing, nobody fucking knew you were out there.
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Well, that one group of kids, like 1914 and 18 or something like that,
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there was an older guy that took his younger cousins out.
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Or an older kid, took his younger cousins out, and nobody knew what was going
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on until the dad came home and realized they were all out hunting.
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They said that the dad got a couple guys and went to try to look for them,
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but even then, I mean, imagine Mary or Maggie going, oh, they're hunting Lake Red Rock.
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You should go find them. Where in the hell are you going to start?
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Yeah. Nah. They wouldn't... They know where we're at, but they don't know where we're at, ever. Yeah.
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They know where the trucks are at. That's about it.
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Yeah maybe they might not be able to find it yeah no shit.
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But like nowadays like they I know they use live scope and all these sonar and
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stuff like that to help find a missing person or a body whenever it turns to that kind of search but,
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they just didn't have anything back then so they're just literally going off of divers,
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and if I'm looking for a body floating on her up against a bank somewhere.
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The number could have been worse. It could be way worse than what they're predicting.
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Did you guys see the deal about the efforts of Max Conrad and John Bob Bean?
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They're pilots that were flying around and doing supply drops to people that
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were stranded to help them out. and also to find people,
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I didn't until you brought it up the other night, and then I kind of did a little
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looking into it today. It was kind of wild.
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I mean, obviously, it's something you don't have to do, right?
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Yeah, I feel like that goes back to the whole survival instinct of it.
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Like, they knew those people were fucked. Yeah.
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I mean, even then, you think that storm rolled through, but I can't imagine
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even the day after the lens subsided that much that it couldn't have been comfortable
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flying around either. No.
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No. Well, I mean, they were flying around in the 50, 60 mile an hour winds,
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and that was back then, or even nowadays, still tiny aircraft that they're flying around in.
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So that ain't, that's no easy task either, what they were doing.
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Yeah, so it was a Piper, right?
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Yeah, Piper aircraft. Yeah, those were not big airplanes. No.
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Again, we are talking about 1940, so I'm not sure how many big airplanes there were.
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I think it was mostly military back then.
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But I know they did get nominated for, I don't even know how to say this medal,
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but they got nominated for a medal for heroism.
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For Carnegie? I don't even know. Something like that.
28:41
But just for their efforts that year, they were flying the Mississippi River
28:45
in the backwaters near Winona and then numerous other places too.
28:48
I know they were all over trying to do what they can to help the people that
28:53
were, I mean, helpless. At that point.
28:57
That's hard to find in this day and age i couldn't imagine back then especially
29:01
like we were saying with not i mean i don't know how many airplanes there were
29:05
back then but it couldn't be very many,
29:08
just to offer up and like yeah we'll go look for people and drop off where we can right,
29:14
definitely a wild time mre crackers and burlap sacks for you know telling like
29:19
today where if they were going to drop anything off it would be medical supplies
29:23
or you know any of this food that's actually like high-density high-well probably was that back then.
29:29
But they're probably those little bricks of nasty shit that they,
29:33
for the 1930s. When you're dying, you don't get a lot of dollars. That's the truth.
29:37
It should have plenty of duck to eat, though. Goddamn. Dude, could you imagine?
29:42
I bet you that migration that day was insane. Yeah.
29:48
I've hunted a few pretty good migration days, and I've been pretty lucky in
29:53
the past on hitting some stuff right to see some massive pushes of ducks.
29:58
But something like that, where you know when it's warm winter,
30:03
so some of the ducks that aren't necessarily pushing because of the schedule
30:11
or the calendar, birds, you know.
30:15
I imagine it was one hell of a waterfowl push that day to where they've seen
30:20
shit that they've never seen before and never will see again probably.
30:24
Yeah, Mother Nature straight up said, fuck you ducks, you are moving.
30:29
If you don't move, you're dead. Yeah, even if you do move, you are dead.
30:35
I think one of the reports or one of the accounts I was reading,
30:40
one of the guys hunting said he was sitting there waiting for ducks to come
30:44
in because all of a sudden it was just by the hundreds, mallards are dropping
30:48
over the shores and just landing right where he's hunting. He's like,
30:51
oh shit, this is awesome.
30:53
And then obviously he had a hell time getting home. But, you know,
30:55
can you imagine it's sitting there and it's like, and those birds had to just
30:58
be so dead tired that the second they found some sort of covered,
31:03
you know, covered water,
31:06
covered water, protected water, get you out of the wind a little bit down in the hole.
31:11
And they just are like, I don't really give a shit. If you're out there swimming, I'm going to land here.
31:18
Yeah i mean obviously on any high wind
31:21
day you always find them birds concentrated
31:25
in slack water areas where there's just no wind or no waves to i mean we see
31:30
it all the time in our lake when when we get a hard west or northwest wind them
31:34
birds are getting kicked off the lake by hundreds at a time and yeah you know
31:39
not a lot of guys go because they know that it's gonna be
31:42
and they don't want to sink a boat or take the chance of drowning.
31:46
So I would say on a Saturday, in one of those days, you're lucky to see 10 boats
31:52
at the ramp at most on even the busiest time of year on those really windy days,
31:57
which is good because even today,
32:00
the boats are pretty good size nowadays compared to what they used to be by far. Yeah.
32:07
They're still not. I mean, mud motors are a little bit less reliable than an outboard.
32:11
So all it really takes is your motor to give out. You're still going to take
32:16
that chance of drowning or flipping, capsizing.
32:20
But there's some days, like, even with your little boat, we're like,
32:24
no, I have to stay at home. We'll throw a decoy at the big boat.
32:29
And I don't think it's, I mean, you know, we're not trying to take away anybody else's drive.
32:33
Like, yeah, we know you want to go out. But when I was 18, I didn't have the
32:36
means for a big boat like that.
32:38
So you get these kids out there that are 18, 20 years old that don't have the
32:41
means for a big boat like we're in.
32:44
It's like, well, you know, we've seen a couple of kids this year on the Highland
32:46
Day. And it's like, oh, man, a 14-footer was a long tail.
32:50
I just don't know if I'd be running that thing around too much today.
32:54
And that goes back to just younger kids always think they're fucking bulletproof.
32:59
And I can't say that I wasn't one of them, but. I still am.
33:04
Yeah i was 30 you really have to think
33:07
about it we'll try to god damn i'm about to blow my hair down about
33:10
we've said it a million times on this podcast too like if
33:13
you're even questioning if you can make it out and back in the same day don't
33:18
go there's no doubt in the world that's worth that shit if you if you have a
33:22
doubt in your mind about like uh should i do that or not like you probably shouldn't
33:27
i mean you can go to like there's been days where even i've gone to the ramp,
33:32
like when I'm, say we're froze out of the slack or the shallow areas,
33:37
and I'll go to the boat ramp and I'm like, eh.
33:40
That's more fun than I want to deal with right now.
33:43
Like, I'm just gonna go home and go hunt a field.
33:46
Because that's always an option too, on those high wind days and those high,
33:49
like the weather days when it's getting cold and pushing birds,
33:52
the fields are almost always, like, you're a better bet anyways. If you can find one.
33:57
Yeah, a lot of people, I mean, I know it sucks when it's a little bit chillier or like freezing up, but.
34:04
Even seen it on like the warmer high wind days like dude just don't hunt a fucking
34:09
walk-in spot it's not gonna kill you i promise you're way safer to walk in and
34:15
get a little sweat going then,
34:18
flipping a fucking 12 or 14 foot boat for well that that'll be what's nice about
34:23
that coal creek area because it's gonna be an area no matter the weather you
34:28
can go and hunt it like yeah it could be 100 mile an hour winds.
34:32
You just gotta worry about trees getting broke over at that point.
34:35
But you're not gonna worry about no waves. You can hunt it if you want any day.
34:39
I will say, not knowing if you're gonna make it back. I've had one of those situations.
34:45
Not due to wind, but the first time I ran over with Tyler, you ripped on that big boat.
34:49
And I came back into Tyler. I was like, we're ripping down the river. How, mock Jesus.
34:56
I can't see anything. I don't know how Tyler can see anything.
34:59
I'm like, is it? I'm going to die on this revert today.
35:03
Grow up. I'll do now. Now I'm excited about it. I'm like, let's go faster. Yeah, dude.
35:08
I'm telling you, right? I've been over with him. I was like,
35:10
I've never built this guy on a boat before in my life. And he's whipping down there.
35:13
That was how mine was, too, the first time I ever hunted with him.
35:15
And he said, hold on. So I kind of loosely grabbed, you know? Yep.
35:20
Same thing. I ended up on my fucking ass in the back of the boat. And I'm like, holy shit.
35:25
I tell you what. But everybody that it's their first time hunting with me,
35:30
I tell them, like, hey, you guys ready? Like, grab onto something.
35:33
Always come rolling to the back of the boat because I don't ever actually grab
35:36
onto something because when I get on it, I'm going from zero throttle to 100% of throttle.
35:41
I don't do zero to 100% really slowly. It's all gas, no brakes.
35:46
I love it because when you say it, I watch what they do with their hands and
35:49
they just do the light thing. I'm like, idiot.
35:53
Alright, that's easy shit.
35:55
Need to get a camera set up in the blind to record those takeoffs some mornings
35:59
when we have new people with us because it never fails. They're rolling through the blind.
36:03
I still think the funniest one
36:05
was That day Daniel showed up late and hung over Ran his truck out of fuel.
36:13
And Daniel had hunted out of the boat before Tyler goes, alright, you guys ready?
36:16
And I watched Daniel's hand just do one of those lip things And I'm like,
36:19
oh fuck, here he comes He was standing right in front of me And he flipped past
36:23
me and rolled back to the back of the boat And I was like, holy fuck,
36:30
Couldn't help with the name for sure dude the entire boat right out there we
36:33
went a ways back there that day too the entire boat right out there he's fucking
36:38
ghost white and I'm like if he pukes in this boat how's it gonna kill him,
36:43
Yeah, he was riding the struggle bus. You can hear waders or you're swimming
36:46
back. He was not in good shape.
36:51
That's better for hanging over in a nice cold boat. I'll tell you that. That is for sure.
36:56
Dude, there was one day in Nebraska a few years ago on a trip.
37:00
We met up with Chris Barr and then me and Corey Swan went and drank with Chris
37:04
till like one o'clock in the morning.
37:07
And we were getting up at like 2.33 to go hunting every day.
37:11
So we were normally going to bed at like seven.
37:13
Well, we decided it'd be a great idea to stay up and drink with those guys that
37:17
are sleeping until 8 and then coming out.
37:20
I woke up and got in the truck, and I'm like, hmm, this probably isn't a good
37:24
idea. We should probably just go back to bed.
37:27
Trevor looked at me, and he's like, how are you feeling? I was like,
37:30
you want to drive for a little bit? He drove to the boat ramp that day.
37:34
Get there, and he got out of the truck and started getting stuff ready because
37:38
they all knew what needed to be done, and I just sat there. Like,
37:42
oh, I'm not looking forward to this.
37:45
Finally, finally got up and got moving, got everything ready,
37:49
put the boat on the water.
37:50
And I was like, all right, here we go. Took off. And as soon as that cold air
37:54
smacked me in the face, I was golden.
37:57
It was like a brand new person all of a sudden. Oh, yeah.
38:00
I mean, it was that year was cold on that trip. So it woke me right up and it
38:05
wiped that hangout hangover out of the system.
38:09
I'll tell you what, even like knowing what you're getting into with that little
38:13
bow, if you have a hangover, by the time you get that fucker in the water and
38:16
you know what you have to do here in a minute, it's gone.
38:19
Yeah, no, you're just ready at that point. You're like, all right, go.
38:23
Like we're about to do some fuck shit. I got to get my shit together.
38:28
It's like your body's like, oh fuck, I'm going to get ready for this shit. We're about to get wet.
38:35
Trent did say something too. He said, you know, there was a day this year where
38:39
he said he wasn't going to go out and he knew six boats that sunk that day alone,
38:45
which is, it's wild that it still happens today, but also people that just want
38:51
to keep going, even though they probably should take a day off or go find a
38:55
different area to hunt. That's not going to be a big body of water.
38:59
That's the wild thing. Like we have so many resources and even a little bit
39:03
of time on a lake a couple of different times.
39:06
You know, like what winds are super shitty for that lake. Yeah.
39:11
Yeah. Like for us, anything that's like West Northwest, you're not going to
39:15
have a good time on the boat ride. No.
39:19
It's going to be absolutely awful every time. Yeah.
39:23
Especially for me. I like those boat rides.
39:26
It's fun. I like it whenever I back a wave head on and it comes tidal waving
39:29
over the front it's a blast yeah it's great yeah it always seems to be like
39:34
30 fucking one degrees that day so I always get soaked and then I'm like no
39:38
I got icicles dripping down my face,
39:41
my beard gain's like five pounds cause I'm like this heist out of here I've
39:46
had days where I've gotten to the spot and I can't unzip my jacket cause it's
39:49
frozen and my everything's frozen I'm like oh now what,
39:54
sit there for a couple trying to chip it off so I can unzip my jacket and take
39:58
it off because if I if I set up decoys with everything that I wore for the boat
40:02
ride I'm gonna be dead I'll be sweating my tits off and it'll be hotter than shit yeah.
40:10
You'd be hot fucking t-shirt 40 below I've got some guys here to whisper when
40:16
chunks and crocs no shit when we gotta put decoys out I'll fucking die seriously
40:21
you gotta get the heater on,
40:24
remember opening day a few years ago when I laid in the back of the boat with
40:27
the dogs because you guys had the heaters ripping and I'm like,
40:29
there ain't no way I'm getting that blind right now.
40:32
It was fucking hilarious. He was in the back of the boat with his waders rolled down to his ankles.
40:37
He was laying on like, I think we have like a piece of burlap or something he was laying on.
40:41
It's a hydro-turst mat. Yeah, just to stay dry.
40:45
And he's back there like, you motherfuckers are nuts. He kept bitching that
40:49
the heat was blowing off the back of the boat over to him. It was. No.
40:54
No. I was sitting back there with Ellie, and Ellie's like, what are you doing
40:57
back here? This is my spot. Get out of here.
41:01
Oh, shoot. Both of them, when we stand up to shoot or look around or just stretch
41:05
legs, they'll stand up and I'm like, ooh, that's cold. Yeah.
41:08
We're back down in the hole.
41:10
I'm going to stretch out a long way, not, oh. No.
41:14
I think we'll go ahead and move into the second half of this where the question
41:19
is, is like, could another one of these Armistice Day blizzards happen again?
41:25
And I, our first initial thought, I truly don't think that anything like this
41:31
could ever necessarily happen to the magnitude that it happened back then, today.
41:38
No, I would agree. I mean, I think there's a lot of several,
41:41
I mean, there's several factors that have changed from then to now.
41:45
I don't mean, don't just mean in technology, I mean in everything,
41:48
right? But I don't say, I just don't see it actually happening.
41:52
Like, I could see, yeah, we get dumped off of snow or yeah, we've got high winds,
41:56
but I just don't see everything piled up once like that.
41:59
Yeah I'm definitely no Ed Wilson so I can't say like what brews up that kind
42:05
of storm but we've seen it in the past fuck you with it the past 10-15 years
42:11
like it at this point it would never happen like that again,
42:15
just the storm itself obviously I mean we've gone fucking tenfold on technology
42:20
and hunting equipment like getting stranded like that wouldn't really I don't
42:27
think that ever happened to that and if it did do you 99% of guys have a meter.
42:32
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, well, so like this whole, this whole blizzard in the Armistice
42:40
Day storm of 1940 led into the whole reform of the entire U.S.
42:46
Weather Bureau for how they predict weather. And I know it.
42:51
Happened, like, back then it was based in Chicago, I believe,
42:55
and now it's got, from then it got moved to Minneapolis because of,
42:59
this day, and they also implemented 24-hour staffing to stay on top of this
43:05
stuff to, you know, if something all of a sudden drastically changes for the
43:09
forecast for tomorrow, they can release that right away and make it public.
43:14
Right. They send the planes out with chemtrails, so that'd work good.
43:18
Here we fucking go. No, my God.
43:24
Geez. I have to say, that's dirt out there. No, yeah. No, I mean,
43:27
it's, yeah. Whatever you got to do, make yourself feel better. That's fine.
43:31
Well, I'm not saying it roots it. I'm just saying it seems to be a hot topic lately.
43:35
Cloud seeding and that stuff has been a hot topic lately.
43:39
In the past couple, well, really the past five to ten years with all these droughts
43:43
and wildfires getting worse and worse.
43:45
Yeah. But, I won't get into that.
43:49
No, no, no. Let's not wrap it up. Please don't. Yeah, that's crazy.
43:54
There's so many radical people on both sides of it. It's just a deep, deep dive.
44:01
We'd have a fucking five-hour podcast if we got into that. Yeah.
44:06
But with everyone having smartphones and then the technology nowadays,
44:11
it's just a lot less likely that that could happen.
44:15
It's never a 0% chance of something like that ever happening again,
44:18
because no matter what you say people say they can't predict the weather for fucking shit,
44:23
every time they call for a 30 mile an hour wind and we're going hunting like
44:26
all excited because we're gonna have a high wind get out there and it's slack
44:29
water not a spit of wind anywhere and it's cloudy and it's cloudy,
44:33
Yeah. The only job I'm aware of is you can be wrong 100% of the time.
44:38
And still have a job. Yeah. They fucking get on him.
44:43
I mean, I'll say they're more... I would say this, is they don't miss big storms
44:49
as often as they do on, say, the storm's worse than what they forecasted.
44:55
It's usually not near as bad as what they forecast.
44:58
They're generally forecasting it to be way worse than it turns out to be on a general consensus.
45:04
Which, honestly, I'll take that.
45:06
Yeah, for sure. I would not try to tell me we're going to have a great fruit-sized
45:09
hail and 120-mile-hour gusts so that way I can put rat straps on my roof and throw them celery.
45:18
Rat straps on your roof. Well, yeah, I'll need a thing. I'll just replace it. I'll need to fly it off.
45:24
It's not my way on the shingles. I know you screw it up. You know what would
45:28
help with them not getting ripped off again? if you actually trim the fucking edge.
45:33
I spit on you.
45:38
Dear God.
45:40
Jesus. That would help that probably that makes sense. Yeah,
45:44
that's the word. It definitely won't hurt.
45:48
It's cold now. I'm good with not doing that. Dear Clown.
45:55
I can't believe you've been calling it how you see it.
45:59
But modern day gear nowadays. So like, look at, I mean, just look at waiters alone.
46:04
Look how far those have came in the past 10 years, let alone,
46:08
what past, I mean, how long ago they came out with the, maybe longer I say,
46:13
because I haven't been researching them, but the zip, like the full zip up waiters.
46:16
I mean, even in the past few years, like how much shit's changed.
46:19
I mean, they've had zip up waiters for, it's getting close to 10 years now, probably.
46:23
Yeah. If not over 10 years. But it's definitely gotten way better from year
46:29
one to year X amount on those.
46:33
And then, Kate doesn't wear Sitka, but the Sitka and the Shins and even Drake,
46:41
Bandit, all these gear companies, every year come out with something better
46:47
than what they had the year before.
46:48
For whether it's staying warm or dry or warm and dry, you know,
46:54
there's clothing for every different situation now compared to,
46:57
I mean, then you just had a jacket.
47:00
Like you didn't have all these other different options. You had a winter jacket or no jacket.
47:07
Yeah. The waterproof technology in general has come so fucking far that it's
47:12
crazy to look back and see how those people hunted back in the day,
47:15
especially with no heat. I mean, they were fucking diehards.
47:20
Their only heat was building a campfire. Yeah.
47:24
I mean, there was no fucking propane. I think they were looking at it in a way
47:29
different way than we do too, right?
47:31
I mean, we don't waste our birds by any means. I eat everything I kill.
47:36
But they were doing it like they had to go kill anything to feed the family.
47:42
100%. Compared to nowadays, I mean, people are... I hope everybody that goes
47:47
hunting in general for waterfowl or deer, turkey, all that stuff are in some
47:52
way, shape or form eating what they're killing.
47:55
Cause otherwise you're defeating the purpose of going. But.
47:59
We waterfowl hunt all year. We kill usually quite a few birds,
48:03
and we just dropped it all off at the meat locker this year instead of doing
48:07
it ourselves to get processed.
48:09
And it gets eaten throughout the whole year, whether we have get-togethers or,
48:13
you know, I ask people, hey, you want some hot sticks, brats,
48:16
or anything like that? Like, here you go, you have a couple packs or whatever.
48:20
Pretty much what we kill gets eaten every year. It takes a whole year, but it gets eaten.
48:26
Yeah, there's hardly shit that goes to waste.
48:29
No, I mean, you could look in the freezer right now. Most of what I have right
48:33
now is breakfast sausage.
48:34
We have a ton of that left, which is perfect because I didn't get any made. Yeah.
48:39
I mean, yeah. It was definitely a bigger thing back then because they relied
48:43
on it for survival for their dinner.
48:46
People nowadays, you can go out and strike out and not kill a duck and just
48:50
swing through McDonald's and get yourself a McDouble on the way home and then
48:56
have the shits afterwards.
48:58
After slowly on the way as you're taking each bite that shit touches your mouth
49:03
that you have to go in and out.
49:09
And then I mean it doesn't just go towards like your clothing so as you guys
49:13
have mentioned and complain about
49:15
all the time fucking heaters most people that hunt nowadays have a Mr.
49:19
Buddy heater that they take with them so and then look at the size of boats
49:24
back then I'd be surprised they had a boat bigger than 12 foot on average.
49:30
I would say the average boat was 10 to 12 foot and probably 36 inches wide.
49:37
Maybe, maybe I'm wrong on that,
49:38
but I doubt it. No, I'd say I don't think you're probably right. Yeah.
49:43
Nowadays, I would say the average size boat is probably about a 17 foot boat.
49:49
I mean, because 16 is considered small nowadays.
49:52
18 is considered to be a little bigger, so I'd say that 17 range would be about the average.
49:58
Yeah. So you can handle water a lot better in a 16-footer.
50:05
As Trent just said, a 4-horsepower motor compared to 4D, which is what most
50:10
mud boaters are nowadays. Yeah.
50:13
Those both probably couldn't get out of their own way. Yeah.
50:16
Did you imagine trying to go up rivers?
50:21
If I had a four-horse motor and I was going upriver, we'd definitely have paddles
50:25
out too and help them paddle going up the river.
50:27
Because I'd be like, this is killing me.
50:30
But we could try it. There's one right behind Zach's head.
50:33
Yeah. I'm good. I like going fast. There's a reason why I got a 200 and,
50:38
well, 300-horse motor and a 115.
50:42
I think we should put the four-and-a-half on your midwif and make it struggle
50:46
for a year. yeah we could mount it on the front for reverse,
50:52
we have to mount it to the side just use it for motion of the decoys,
50:56
if it wasn't so freaking loud that'd be awesome oh it was loud but like I mean
51:02
talk about motors the reliability in the motors they have now yeah with fuel
51:07
injection and just modern day technology,
51:11
you don't got to worry about your motors like if you have a fuel injected motor
51:14
it's going to start in the cold no problem compared to the old carbureted motors back then.
51:20
Yeah, good luck. You can sit in there all day and try and crank that thing over
51:25
or pull start it, not crank it over because I didn't have fucking starters either on those boats.
51:29
Yeah, I was all, build or pull. Yeah.
51:33
I don't know. Imagine doing that with ice cold fingers because you have one
51:37
pair of cotton gloves on wearing them.
51:40
I'm going to put it in my hand. I want you to pull my fingers over so I can hold it.
51:46
Probably my strong hand the one he's got better grip with yeah,
51:54
probably the full finger ones that would be getting handy that would make sense
51:58
but Zach doesn't do a whole lot of things that make sense sometimes no fair
52:05
point so ooh speaking of Zach did that picture with the beaver yesterday you posted crack me up,
52:13
it's one of me holding with a face or stand facing the camera. Yeah.
52:19
That was a cool picture. I was like, little guy smiling.
52:23
I was reading the comments after I commented that and somebody else said,
52:27
looks like you're a long lost cousin or something like that.
52:29
I saw your comment and then Boyd, Bradshaw, and I was like, you fuckers just teaming up on me.
52:39
I think, well, these are kind of big, but I don't think they're Bieber-like.
52:45
I think it was more of the facial features I was talking about. Oh, okay. All right.
52:52
Oh, my gosh. Was that beaver from back there where you were trapping behind
52:58
my new place? Yeah, behind your new place. Yeah.
53:02
Yeah. That's what I figured. I didn't want to run up the creek and drop a tree
53:05
in your house, so really I was looking up for you two.
53:08
What a guy. Yeah. Just saying. What a guy. How many beavers did you catch?
53:13
Three total out of there.
53:15
Yeah, it looks like they were getting kicked out of the, out of the den,
53:19
down there, and they were just coming up looking for somewhere to stay and catch
53:23
them coming in and doing that.
53:24
The one, I don't want to take a picture of because I thought,
53:26
or send a picture of it on Facebook because I think Pete and Mike came after me.
53:31
I ain't kidding. I think I've caught muskrats bigger than that big river.
53:33
It was like this freaking big. Oh, my God.
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It's probably the one that was eating all the bark off all the trees.
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Probably was. I looked at the trap. I'm like, what is that?
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I was like, is that a rat? Like a mustache?
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And so then I walked up to it and pulled her trap out. I was like, oh, my God.
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This thing was born three days ago. It's a little baby peeper.
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It was tender, though. So my goodness. Love eating beaver.
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Do you guys feel like there's anything else we need to touch on?
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No, I don't think so. I mean, it's kind of wild, you know, to look back at our
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rest of this day and kind of what happened to those guys and RIP, right?
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Hopefully we never end up in that kind of situation.
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But I feel like it's a good story for a lot of people to hear or learn about
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just because, I mean, realistically, this could happen at any given point in
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time during hunting season on any day you're out there.
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You know, so it's, you know, people always say about the risk we,
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like, people take and the risk you take.
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I mean, nowadays the risk isn't near as much doing that stuff.
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Obviously, there's always a risk when you're going out in the wintertime on
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water, when it's freezing water.
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But, I mean, it's, there's always that risk of any day something like this happening
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and maybe you're just not prepared for it or you don't know,
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you're new to running a boat. I mean, I don't care what size boat you have.
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When you're running water like that and weather like that, you have to know
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what you're doing because you can sink any boat. Yeah. Yep.
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Yeah, I mean, that's what you're doing. If you're wanting to get a boat,
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get out and do it during the summertime, at least during summer,
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and preferably not on high wind days. You used to run on the damn thing.
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Or go out on the high wind days in summer so you learn how to run in the high wind. Yeah.
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At least if you sink it. You can swim back. All right.
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Wear your life jacket, of course. That's no fun, though.
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No fun. Do anything when it's warm out. Just fucking take a cold shower, take a cold swim.
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I feel like it's a little bit safer slash smarter.
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I could be wrong. Safety's for the birds. Oh my gosh.
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Well, I mean, if anybody that's listening to this podcast has any thing that
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they think we missed or things that we should touch on while we're on this topic
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here, now's the time to come.
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August remembers our missed this day. Let us know what it was like.
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He's probably not even the last fan. He's He's going to claim he's busy.
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Yeah, he's been claiming he's super busy lately, but we all know it's bullshit. I'm depressed.
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Bill's not here, or Bill's not commenting. That's wild. That is wild.
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One thing before we do get closed out here, I wanted to say,
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coming into the summer months here, me and Cade work jobs where our hours vary a lot,
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so we might be having to switch the live stream times back to 8 p.m.,
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and there could be weeks where we don't live stream and we just get together
56:39
and record a podcast when we can because there could be weeks in the summertime here,
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where we skip a couple weeks, which there will be some weeks we take off going
56:48
through the summer just to go do our own thing and take breaks.
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I mean, when it's not hunting season, we don't need to do this every week,
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but it's fun to get on here and chat with everybody.
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So we could be moving to 8 p.m. live stream times. We're going to see kind of
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how it all plays out here as we get more into the busy time of year for all of us with working.
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But yeah, no, that is definitely something that could happen.
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And there could be weeks where, well, there will be weeks.
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We don't podcast or stream in general throughout the summer.
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Yeah. Zach works nine to five, so he could do it every Monday at the same time.
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So if you guys do want us to podcast the same time, just start just shooting
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us messages. Just say, no, we want a Zach Neuendorf podcast Monday when you guys can't be on.
57:37
Do it. I will. I'll sit there. I don't care. He could bring his beavers and hang out with you guys.
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We do a live on how to skin and stuff a beaver.
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We're eating purposes. That still doesn't say that, doesn't it?
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Oh, man. No, I think we touched on quite a bit on this Mr. Stay Blizzard deal.
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So, definitely wild time.
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Definitely crazy that this happened. And it's a very unfortunate event.
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Probably, like I said in the beginning, I think it's one of the most tragic
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days in waterfowling history to date just because of the amount of casualties and people that were,
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didn't just die, but suffered out there because of the lack of forecasting capabilities they had. Yeah.
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Yeah, a lot of young hunters. I mean, a lot of old ones too, I'm sure.
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I'm sure it was definitely a mix but it's just crazy to hear about that and
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it's crazy to imagine something like that is even possible to happen,
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with how we've came up and what we've seen I mean we've always had the TV with
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news that isn't super reliable but it's reliable enough not to miss a complete
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shitstorm blizzard like that right,
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but I think I think that about wraps it up for this week Don't it boys?
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I think so I think so Wish me and little Pookie Love Try to wrap a turkey tag
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around one form This weekend You guys are going this weekend?
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I think that's planned, pending weather He'll cancel on you,
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don't worry You're not going to go, make your own plans.
59:25
That final's killing by myself. Little loser. That wraps it up for this episode
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