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An Update on the Queer Community · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.
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  Speaker 2: I'm welcome to stuff I never told you, Production by
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  Speaker 2: Heart Radio, and welcome to Pride Month. It's June second.
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  Speaker 2: As we record this, I'm wearing my ACE shirt, which
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  Speaker 2: is very cool. It is cool. I should get my
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  Speaker 2: pin here just for you.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoy it. I like I get a show every
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  Speaker 1: time of like whatever seasonal thing is happening or topic
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about, come to whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I'm super into it the moment. Yeah, yes, Well, unfortunately
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  Speaker 2: this isn't a happy episode necessarily, but it's just updates
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  Speaker 2: on some things that are happening in in the queer community.
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  Speaker 2: It's not complete by any means, because a lot is happening,
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  Speaker 2: and we've talked about some of those things on this
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  Speaker 2: very show, and I'm sure we'll come back and return
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  Speaker 2: to them as things continue to change. So just content warning,
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  Speaker 2: like we're not going to go to in depth in anything.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're just kind of tired of hearing about
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  Speaker 2: like homophobic politicians and people passing bad laws, then I'm
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  Speaker 2: with you, I understand. But that's we're mostly talking about
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  Speaker 2: that and some of the things within companies that are happening,
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  Speaker 2: and then some of the things that are happening with censorship,
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  Speaker 2: So just to put that out there also because things
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  Speaker 2: are rapidly changing. The date is June second, twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to say that, So it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be about almost a week before you hear this, and
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  Speaker 2: I know things will probably have changed in that time, right, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: but we wanted to start with the wave of anti
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  Speaker 2: drag laws that are happening. So in April twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee became the first state to ban jack shows in
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  Speaker 2: public spaces, although drag was never used in there specifically,
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  Speaker 2: but that's really what they were going for. At least
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  Speaker 2: fourteen other states introduced similar measures from time. Quote, a
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  Speaker 2: language across the numerous bills, is similar to the Tennessee bill,
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  Speaker 2: which prohibits quote adult cabaret performances in public spaces where
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  Speaker 2: miners could watch. In Tennessee's bill, adult cabaret is defined
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  Speaker 2: as adult oriented performances that include quote male or female impersonators.
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  Speaker 2: It redefines drag art as a morbid and shameful interest
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  Speaker 2: in sex, which is an actual legal term that they used. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the day before it was passed, it was blocked for
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  Speaker 2: being quote too broad by a federal judge who is
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  Speaker 2: a Trump appointed judge. Some people are taking that as
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  Speaker 2: like there's some kind of hope here. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's interesting. I know we'll talk about it later. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: several Republican politicians have actually done good things or unexpected
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  Speaker 1: things that I've been very surprised by. So feels like
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  Speaker 1: there's a glimmer in this madness. I'm going to clean
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  Speaker 1: to that glimmer.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So a local drag theater group of friends of George
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  Speaker 1: filed a suit against it from the Guardian, they said
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  Speaker 1: the law prohibits a drag performer wearing a crop top
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  Speaker 1: and mini skirt from dancing where miners might see it,
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  Speaker 1: their complaint notes, but does not prohibit a Tennessee Titans
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  Speaker 1: cheerleader wearing an identical outfit from performing the exact same
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  Speaker 1: dance in front of children, which I was gonna ask, like,
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  Speaker 1: have they done the same kind of thing for any
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  Speaker 1: like cis hetero entertainment?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they brought up wrestling as well. Yeah, this kind
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  Speaker 2: of thing that they're talking about banning happens in wrestling,
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  Speaker 2: So no they have. But the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Volleyball, soccer, uniforms like they don't have crop tops, but
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  Speaker 1: they often short shorts.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: So the ACLU of Tennessee tweeted, we are concerned that
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  Speaker 1: government officials could easily abuse this law to censor people
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  Speaker 1: based on their own subjective viewpoints of what they deem appropriate,
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  Speaker 1: chilling and protect a speech and sending a message to
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  Speaker 1: LGBTQ tityseums that they are not welcomed in our state.
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  Speaker 2: And this also speaks to how these laws could be
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  Speaker 2: used to target trans people for simply existing in the
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  Speaker 2: face of so many other attacks they're already under, including
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  Speaker 2: bands on gender affirming care and trans people's rights in general.
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  Speaker 2: So like the same, I believe the same day this
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  Speaker 2: governor passed a law banning gender affirming care. So some
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  Speaker 2: people think this is sort of like, I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: is very dangerous, absolutely, but some people think it's also
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  Speaker 2: kind of distracting from that too. But yeah, after the
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  Speaker 2: after the bill passed, photo surfaced of Governor Billy who
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  Speaker 2: is the one who signed it, doing drag in high school.
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  Speaker 2: One of his spokespeople said in response, the bill specifically
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  Speaker 2: protects children from obsceeen sexualized entertainment in any attempt to
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  Speaker 2: conflate this serious issue with light hearted school traditions is
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  Speaker 2: dishonest and disrespectful to Tennessee families.
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  Speaker 1: The hypocrisy, this is just for fun, right women most likely? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Are we demeaning women in a way, yes, but this
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  Speaker 1: it's harmless.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not sexist or expecting Tennessee families. And it is
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  Speaker 2: part of like we've talked about this too, the really
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  Speaker 2: gross grooming argument, where that protecting the children line comes
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  Speaker 2: up a lot, including it is used by organizations like
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  Speaker 2: GAYE against groomers, which is an unfortunate thing. I had
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  Speaker 2: to research doing this, which they're posting people in drag
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  Speaker 2: and they said, quote they directly opposes the sexualization and
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  Speaker 2: indoctrination of children. This includes drag Queen's story hours, drag
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  Speaker 2: shows involving children, the transitioning and medicalization of miners, and
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  Speaker 2: gender theory being taught in the classroom.
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  Speaker 1: Gender theory. Yeah, I know we're not supposed to laugh,
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  Speaker 1: and I know this is really bad, but the way
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  Speaker 1: they phrase things is so absurd and people can take
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  Speaker 1: this all different ways. So at this point, talking about
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  Speaker 1: gender and having people talk about heteronormative ideas is gender theory.
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  Speaker 1: So you'd best not be talking about that, right.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people have brought that up too, But
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  Speaker 2: like going back to the hypocrisy of like, well, you
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  Speaker 2: talk about intersection people all the time, and that's not
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  Speaker 2: like outside of gender theory.
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  Speaker 1: You're teaching women to be the why or women's career focus.
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  Speaker 1: That's a gender theory, which is what they want to promote.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, exactly, And it goes hand in hand with what
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  Speaker 2: we've been seeing. We have book banning, which we talked
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  Speaker 2: about in a previous episode and we will discuss a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more towards the end. And some of these
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  Speaker 2: laws that we're seeing specifically call out promoting obscenity, which
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  Speaker 2: is essentially just advertising. So one of the big things
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  Speaker 2: we've seen from this is so much fear and uncertainty
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  Speaker 2: that companies or venues won't host any drag events anymore
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  Speaker 2: because they don't know, right.
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  Speaker 1: I believe Department of Defense typically had a drag show
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  Speaker 1: yearly and they canceled it this year if I remember correctly.
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  Speaker 1: During Pride month.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, there's a lot of concerns that a
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  Speaker 2: lot of Pride events are going to get canceled because
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  Speaker 2: of these laws. And I mean it's serious consequences. Some
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  Speaker 2: of the prison sentences in them are up to ten
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  Speaker 2: years in prison. The person would be registered as sex
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  Speaker 2: offender and finds of up to twenty thousand dollars and
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  Speaker 2: then that's also going along with the venue facing fines
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  Speaker 2: and things like that. There has been some several celebrities
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  Speaker 2: have spoken out about it. I know Lizo was a
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  Speaker 2: really big came out against it. And then I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to include this because it goes along with what we've
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  Speaker 2: been talking about with religion. So Nebraska's has a proposed
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  Speaker 2: anti drag legislation. So here's a quote about it from Time.
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  Speaker 2: The bill was later amended by Senator Meghan Hunt to
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  Speaker 2: prohibit children for participating in Bible studies, church camp, or
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  Speaker 2: other religious programs. Quote. The legislature finds that there is
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  Speaker 2: a well documented history of indoctrination and sexual abuse perpetrated
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  Speaker 2: by religious leaders and clergy people upon children.
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  Speaker 1: It's true. True. Let's talk about the fact that the
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  Speaker 1: Virgin Mary was supposed to be thirteen or twelve, twelve or.
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  Speaker 2: Thirteen, Oh my gosh, that Jesus, yeah wow.
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  Speaker 1: And this is from the Guardian and we've talked about
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  Speaker 1: this before last year, the Southern Baptist Convention released a
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  Speaker 1: list of over seven hundred of their ministers accused of
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  Speaker 1: sexual abuse, with many of the ministers in Tennessee. And
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  Speaker 1: that's just one denomination. There's no record, not a single
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  Speaker 1: documented instance of a child ever being harmed or abused
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  Speaker 1: at a drag show. Statistically speaking, children are far safer
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  Speaker 1: at a drag Queen story hour than at church. Yet
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  Speaker 1: we aren't attempting to legislate whether parents can take children
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  Speaker 1: to church. How is this protecting children? And, like we
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  Speaker 1: talked about it before, a lot of the grooming comes
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  Speaker 1: within the church.
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  Speaker 2: Right right, and this the people they interviewed within this article,
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  Speaker 2: it goes on to bring up gun violence and like
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  Speaker 2: the things we've seen in Timnasee and around mass shootings,
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  Speaker 2: and how despite that this governor, Tennessee governor recently signed
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  Speaker 2: a permitless carry bill. Even though like they also went
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  Speaker 2: into so many of these things we talk about, We
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  Speaker 2: have all of these polls that indicate people are on
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  Speaker 2: the opposite side. So people don't want like the banning
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  Speaker 2: of drag shows. People don't want people being able to
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  Speaker 2: carry guns without a permit, Like this is going against
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  Speaker 2: the will of the people they're supposed to represent.
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  Speaker 1: And the amount of children that have died just from
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  Speaker 1: old folks. And I'm saying old folks being scared that
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  Speaker 1: the people are in their driveway or walking next to
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  Speaker 1: or going near and an amount of good Christian folks
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  Speaker 1: are the ones that's shooting and getting away with it.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I hate I hate it.
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  Speaker 2: It's very frustrating.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the thing. So there is a history of this.
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  Speaker 1: NPR has a good breakdown. As early as eighteen sixty three,
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco had a law abanning someone from being in
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  Speaker 1: public if they're wearing clothing different from what is typically
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  Speaker 1: associated with their legal or assigned gender. These laws were
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  Speaker 1: used as a way of control not only of gender
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  Speaker 1: identity and performance, but if you were arrested, then you
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  Speaker 1: had a criminal record that can make it really difficult
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  Speaker 1: to obtain jobs. And I was gonna say that about
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  Speaker 1: the sex vender registry. This seems like a good idea,
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  Speaker 1: but oftentimes some of it is good and some of
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  Speaker 1: it is just a witch hunt, and some of it
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  Speaker 1: is just going after marginalized communities. And I say this
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  Speaker 1: as a former law enforcement kind of on the outskirts
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  Speaker 1: of law enforcements and seeing what these do, like it's
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  Speaker 1: targeting people. Don't get me wrong, true pedophiles teld molestors
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  Speaker 1: who are mostly from the church. Heteral men need to
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  Speaker 1: be known. But what we see more often than that,
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  Speaker 1: especially if they do this with the anti drag laws,
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  Speaker 1: they are targeting for a reason.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And so much of this is incredibly infuriating too,
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  Speaker 2: because I mean, at one time women couldn't wear pants.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's just this whole idea of like what's typically
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  Speaker 2: associated with their legal or assigned gender. Right, that's like
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  Speaker 2: stuff that changes and that we kind of made up,
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  Speaker 2: like completely made up. Yeah, that's the whole kind of
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  Speaker 2: performance of gender. That's sort of but it's not everyone
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  Speaker 2: agrees on what that is. So that's just it makes
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  Speaker 2: me mad. And as I said, there are a lot
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  Speaker 2: of worries about pride parades getting canceled. I saw a
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  Speaker 2: story about it today in Florida where they don't think
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to do it because they're worried
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  Speaker 2: about this. Yeah, which it's I kind of got torn
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  Speaker 2: in my head about it because it's one of those
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  Speaker 2: things where I'm like, this is not the biggest issue.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of this stuff we're talking about is just
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  Speaker 2: part of a bigger targeting of the queer community and
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  Speaker 2: especially trans people, and so it's like tragic, like a
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  Speaker 2: Pride parade gets canceled, especially because of these things, but
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  Speaker 2: there are It's just I don't want that to be
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  Speaker 2: the only headline we're taking from this.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it comes back to the point that
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  Speaker 1: it took a violent event for Pride parades and things
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  Speaker 1: to come about. So it's not just like it's a
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  Speaker 1: swell thing. It took a violent event for this to
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  Speaker 1: come out. This came it was born from the Stonewall riot,
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  Speaker 1: and we need to have that conversation about like this
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  Speaker 1: is not about showing off, which we have talked about
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  Speaker 1: before that. I had had a discussion with my own parents,
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  Speaker 1: who at one point in time seemed okay with the
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  Speaker 1: queer community and kind of accepting of it, and they're like, okay, cool, cool, cool,
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  Speaker 1: And then this rhetoric came back as of recently, and
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  Speaker 1: I got the why do they have to put it
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  Speaker 1: in our face? Why do they have to have a parade?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you don't even know when it is?
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  Speaker 1: Tell me when when is it, So, how's it in
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  Speaker 1: your face? But literally coming back to this in this
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  Speaker 1: narrative of like they're just trying to show off, Like no,
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  Speaker 1: they're celebrating because they had to fight to get to
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  Speaker 1: this point. It's it's it is dangerous because this is
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  Speaker 1: a silence and this is going against the rights of
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  Speaker 1: individuals in general.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, and I mean it is super important. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to make it because people have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of queer people feel very isolated, and so when you
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  Speaker 2: have a moment like that where you kind of get
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  Speaker 2: to meet other queer people and you get to be proud,
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  Speaker 2: right and have those conversations, that is no small thing.
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  Speaker 1: I will say, it's gotten to corporate, like when you
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  Speaker 1: go to a vibrate everyone is themed like at and
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  Speaker 1: t Like, what the hell does that have to do?
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's one of the big conversations about it
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  Speaker 2: is that it's kind of gotten away from right, which
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  Speaker 2: we are going to talk about in a second. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: and I did read it. I wanted to include one
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  Speaker 2: other thing from The Guardian where they were talking to
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  Speaker 2: an owner of a theater company in Tennessee, Ale because
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  Speaker 2: they were making the point like this impacts non queer
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  Speaker 2: folks too, apart from it being a humans rights thing
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  Speaker 2: that you should care about. But also, here's the quote,
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  Speaker 2: can we still produce Peter Pan with a female Pan?
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Can we do missus doubtfire? Is it okay for us
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  Speaker 2: to put on Shakespeare the way was traditionally performed? But
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  Speaker 2: also I have a feeling is going to be very
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  Speaker 2: specifically targeted when they enforce it and when they don't.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, Yeah, but.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about Let's talk about the corporate aspect
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  Speaker 2: you were discussing, because we have seen a lot of
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  Speaker 2: company backlash, and I've seen several articles that have made
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  Speaker 2: the point because this is also you know, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like a lot of times these take up a lot
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  Speaker 2: of space, and here I am talking about it. But
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  Speaker 2: I think it's interesting in that a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: articles I've read had said this just shows how toxic
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  Speaker 2: and how much backwards were going, because this didn't used
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  Speaker 2: to be kind of such a big flash point for companies.
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  Speaker 2: Companies could usually have something for Pride Month, and they
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  Speaker 2: didn't experience as much backlash as they are now. So
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  Speaker 2: I do want to say, like at the top of this,
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  Speaker 2: it is weird to me companies trying to cash in
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  Speaker 2: on pride, and I don't no. I mean, obviously, I
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  Speaker 2: guess these aren't sponsors. I don't necessarily support them. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: as someone who works for a big company, you and
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  Speaker 2: I talk about this all the time because we get
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  Speaker 2: requests like this all the time, not just for Pride,
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  Speaker 2: like for every like whatever the month is, we get
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  Speaker 2: a request about it, and we're always like, well, what,
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  Speaker 2: like back it up? What are you just saying these things?
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  Speaker 2: Like what give us some kind of because a lot
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  Speaker 2: of times they'll say like, we're donating to this, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, how much are you donating? How often are
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  Speaker 2: you donating? Like and then we never hear back.
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  Speaker 1: You right, and then just looking at the track record
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  Speaker 1: and you realize who they play both sides, y e.
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  Speaker 2: Right. So at the end of the day, these are companies.
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  Speaker 2: They are looking to make money. They are not consistent.
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  Speaker 2: They often donate to all kinds of opposing things, right,
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  Speaker 2: So they're not allies. They're just not. But okay, they
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: could do a lot better. I'll say that. And let's
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: start with bud Light. I know it's old news now
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  Speaker 2: you've all heard about it, that bud Light faced a
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  Speaker 2: huge backlash after sending trans influencer Dylan Ulvany a can
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  Speaker 2: of beer with her face on it, and she showed
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  Speaker 2: it during an Instagram post. It was a very typical Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: An endorsement, like she really wasn't making really much money
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  Speaker 1: other than TikTok money.
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  Speaker 2: No, It's like it was just such a like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there you go. It's a normal video and.
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  Speaker 1: The amount of people throwing out cans of beer, like
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  Speaker 1: you already bought it, dude, do you really think that's
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  Speaker 1: doing something right? Not knowing that Anheuser Busch is a
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  Speaker 1: giant company that most of the beers that you're drinking
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  Speaker 1: so calm us down.
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  Speaker 2: And like a lot of other stuff too. They own
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  Speaker 2: a lot.
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  Speaker 1: And what's so funny is this did not make any
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  Speaker 1: I don't think any of the liberal people going I
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  Speaker 1: have to go buy Budweiser, Like that wasn't a thing
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  Speaker 1: like that didn't We were like, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: No, the whole thing is so ridiculous and it's so
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  Speaker 2: performative and it's so incredibly a waste of time. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there was like all of these videos that were getting
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  Speaker 2: posted of people shooting beer.
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  Speaker 1: Which is a thing by the way, we had a
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  Speaker 1: local brewery that did that because they got complaints about
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  Speaker 1: their beer and so they're mad and they shot up
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  Speaker 1: their beer with Ak's were like, why do this?
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  Speaker 2: Why does it makes sense?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And honestly, though, the biggest thing that we should talk
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  Speaker 1: about with this is the fact that Dylan mulvaney was
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  Speaker 1: braided with so much harassment just because she was thankful
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  Speaker 1: that someone noticed her, like that's the end of the story.
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  Speaker 1: And she has been like, I think she would offer
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  Speaker 1: social media for a while because she had so many
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  Speaker 1: death threats and doxing and going after her, but Budweiser gave.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, they didn't, and that is an unfortunate trend.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: We see a lot and as you said, you can
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: make money on TikTok and so that is like a
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: financial I mean, obviously an emotional harm, but a financial harm,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: and it is a harm that impacts an entire community
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: who was witnessing this. And it was incredibly disheartening too,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: because the company then they released a statement and they
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: said they quote never tended to be part of a
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: discussion that divides people, and released a very but like
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I'll say, like Generic America commercial.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: That was.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: It was like embarrassing how hard they were trying to
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: be like whoa America for everybody? Clearly you're not, you're.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Not if you're ashaming and you're ashamed because you sent
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: a beer.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, well this is the thing too. It's like
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I read a really good thread about how this is.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: This is an example of how clearly like this whole
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: like we never intended to be a part of a
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: discussion that divides people. That they'd never they just want
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: to like get the credit, but didn't stop to think
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: of this is what a queer person faces every day.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: And so then then they get some of this backlash
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: and like oh no, retreat, retreat. And the thing is
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: the company because they both they backtracked. Now they've like
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: pissed off everybody, everybody, everybody. They reported they all up
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: their US marketing budget three times to make up for
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: the loss of revenue caused by this, which again is ridiculous.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. And now let us talk about what
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: is happening with Target. So in May, Target removed or
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: moved items to the back some of their prideline, particularly
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: around trans folks, because they actually had like two hundred
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: items or something in certain Southern stores because of confrontations
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: and threats that they reported were being experienced by their employees,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: like things getting turned over, yelling, all that kind of stuff.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: The statement was very vague. It was issued days after
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: the CEO spoke about inclusivity, and the big target of
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: it of the eyre was something called the tuch Friendly
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: bathing suit, which was supposed to be for trans people,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of Disney information and misinformation around it,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: with conservative pundits claiming it was targeted towards kids. It
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: wasn't that. That was the story that I got told
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: and passed around, and then people got so angry about
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: it and we're focusing about it. And then, of course
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: after this happened, activists expressed their frustration that instead of
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: targeting bad customers, they kind of just gave it and
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: removed the products.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: And a lot of the products were from small businesses,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: which was a big thing that target was trying to
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: say that they are a part of as well at
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: bringing in small businesses, and instead they've everyone over, not
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: just the quick community, but the small businesses that they
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: are so proud about, including.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Right yeah, and it some of the designers reported they
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: were getting so many death threats. They were glad when
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: their stuff got removed, but they should have had support
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: right from Target. Right, it's just it shouldn't be a thing.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: And like I was saying, it's especially it's it's just
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: it's so very corporate to want to cash in on
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: something without taking the time to understand it and just
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: conveniently bowing out right when you can. And it's it's
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: in another example of violent extremists controlling the narrative with
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: things like abortion as well. And it's disheartening too because
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Target does have a history of taking steps to be inclusive.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Right after a lot of the bathroom bands were happening
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, they like went out of their way
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: to make sure like, no, we're going to have these bathrooms,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and the they have been because of that the Target
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: fun I guess I didn't mean to of threats before,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: which isn't right, Like people shouldn't be threatened. I'm not
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: saying like if the work a workspace should be safe
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: at all, but it's just sophelic we're not punishing the
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: right people or we're not taking the right steps to
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: make it so that's not the case for anyone.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Right, I mean when it comes down to when you
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: see content like this, and I would be I would
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: like to see the statistics, especially when it's online trolling,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: how often they are bots or one person doing ten
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: different usernames, because we know the narrative is a majority
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: of people don't care, like even if they are probably
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: biggest or homophobic, they don't get on the computer. Like
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: my parents, who would be what I would call homophobic.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: They don't touch the computer, my sister, my brother, not
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: to target. They complain on Facebook, sure, but they don't
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: go you know what I mean. That takes a long time,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: so I don't I've never met one person in my
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: conservative lifetime that actually went and did this, So I'm
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: really wondering who is the one that are complaining honestly,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: as well as the fact that I understand you want
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: to protect your employees, but like you said, this is
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: an easy way out instead of having knowing that you
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: are a private business so that you can escort these
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: people out real quickly, real quickly.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and once again, as you said, they've up because
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: now that everybody's like that.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Because because the rebservatives are not coming back to say
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I forgive you. That's not a thing they do.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: No, And now queer people are just people who have
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: like queer people in their lives are like, well, now
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like I'm supported here, And it's ridiculous,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I say it again, because other companies who who probably
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: don't have great track records either. We all shop at
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: places where we don't necessarily agree with their politics, right,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: all of us. But now we're going to other places
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: that who knows, but at least their queer stuff is
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: still there. All right?
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think Walmart, Walmart, who I don't up there
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: at all, but.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Exactly that's what I kept seeing. And I'm not saying
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: like that's good or right at all, but it's just.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Right because they're just cashing in as well. But at
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: least they're not backpacking.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I guess it's it's just a mess. It's just such
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: a mess. We're speaking of we Oh my gosh, all right,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: we got to talk about this whole thing that's going
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: on with Disney and DeSantis, which I just saw a
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: headline update today about it. So this is this is
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: wildly changing, and I'm going to condense it because it's
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: like several years in the making. Actually so, after pressure
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: from consumers and employees, and what I gather is just
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: plain annoyance at DeSantis's attempts to control and censor them,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Disney announced that it wasn't cool with the Don't Say
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Gay bill censoring discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: in the classroom, and there has been so much legal
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: back and forth about this. Allegedly, then Disney CEO Bob
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Chapek signed a statement protesting the bill and called DeSantis
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: to express his concerns. A few days later, DeSantis released
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: this statement, woke Disney is now echoing Democrat propaganda and
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: falling for the corporate media's phony hysteria over a Florida
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: bill that sensibly prohibits K through third graders from being
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: inductrinated with transgenderism and r rated lessons about sexuality. In response,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Chapek announced he'd pause all political donations in Florida and
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: released a statement to employees who had long been calling
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: for the company to do more, quote, you needed me
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: to be a stronger ally in the fight for equal rights,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: and I let you down. I am sorry. So this
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: was in part due to a report that found that
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Disney had donated thousands not only to DeSantis, but other
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: anti LGBTQ plus politicians in Florida. So employees, I think
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: we talked about this when it happened, like they were
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: protesting walking out, and yeah, Disney cast members stage walkouts.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Even after that savement due to Chipek's lack of action,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: some employees staged daily walkouts, and creators reported being censored.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I believe we talked about that turning red because they
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: said they had a more explicit queer storyline that they
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: had to take out. A few months later, the Florida
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: legislature voted to end the quote special districts put into
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: place before nineteen sixty eight, including one that gives Walt
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Disney World Resort essentially its own government, during their special session.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Now here, I want to say a note, I do
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: not know if any company should have this, but it
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: was clearly an act of political retribution, all right. In
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, Dessanta's passed a bill changing the name
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: of this district and appointing a five person oversight board
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: of directors to it. However, the current members at the
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: time signed a development deal with the company to give
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: it a max developmental power for thirty years, and they
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: invoked some kind of king Charles.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so they went after it by saying, as
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: to the old monarchy, that King Charles, the current one
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: that just got inducted as the king after his last
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: descendant dies and then thirty years after that. So right
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: now he has grandkids that are infants and toddlers, and
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: probably more kids will be on the way. Let's just
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: do it on us. So they have a because like
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: if when the grand kids get married, he'll have more descendants,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: so essentially never ending.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Of course, if we remember correctly, the board of directors,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the original members were voted in, I believe, and this
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: one was uprooted and he appointed, which is called a
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: dictatorship or fascist.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Anyway, so Dissentis's board is terrifying. This is his cronies,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: his last, all the things. Here's something from CNN. The
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: governor also appointed the CEO of a right wing ministry
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and the founder of the right wing activist groups Moms
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: for Liberty, Horrifying, which the governor has supported to transform
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: local school boards. Board member Ron Perry, CEO of the
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Gathering USA ministry, was captured in a since deleted YouTube
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: video suggesting tapwater has turned Americans gay. This is not
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: to harp on Florida, because I know things are changing.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Good for you, Jacksonville bringing in a Democratic mayor, Good
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: for you, Proud of you. She's still a politician though.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: But all had to say is this kind of like
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: you see the whole Like, yeah, Florida used to be
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: that state that had all the ex cons right, all
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the all the cons at the beginning of what it
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: was like the thirteen member union. That makes sense. I'm
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: gonna yell that by somebody from Florida.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I saw a whole bit about this where somebody yelled
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: at a comedian, not yelled, but was like, why do
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: we always make fun of Florida?
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: And there I think the majority of Floridians are not
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: like this that much like Georgia, they have done really
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: well in butchering the Vote Vot Voting Rights Act and
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: therefore being able to put what they want and try
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: to dictate the results that they want. So I do
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: know that we love you still. I'm sorry.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, well, DeSantis, in this escalating fight, did threaten to
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: put a prison next to Disney World, amongst other things. Also,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: he got married in Disney World, by the way, just
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: to put that out there. So, yes, he put into
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: places very discouncil, very conservative people. After he officially dissolved
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: the Randy Creek District, which was the original district. However, yeah,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Disney had found a way to effectively make them powerless.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: It's still going back and forth though, because DeSantis ordered
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: an investigation. Disney filed a lawsuit against DeSantis in April
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, alleging he was engaging in a quote
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: targeted campaign of government retaliation and was violating their First
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Amendment rights. Then DeSantis's installed boards sued Disney back, saying
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: they quote had no choice but to respond, I.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Know, I'm sorry.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: That is.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: It was basically like, well she hit me first, was like,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I'm rubber, You're glue.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: What bounds off me?
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Stick to you?
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Like, that's essentially what's happened.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Right, Yes, and then Disney canceled plans for a one
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: billion dollar campus in Orlando that I think was going
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: to be used to like for animation for movies. From
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the New York Times quote it would have brought more
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: than two Disney jobs to the region, with one hundred
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: and twenty thousand as the average salary according to an
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: estimate from the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity, though I
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: didn't want to say. Note some of the employees were
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: not happy about the potential of being relocated because a
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: lot of them were going to come from California, I believe,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: and some people quit because they didn't want to be relocated.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: So and this was also they wanted to make this
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: change so the company could benefit from the state's tax credit.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: And then California officials called on Disney to build the
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: campus there, and it was like, the worker's already here.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: It's a bidding war.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I just want to make sure because who's
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: to say if the jobs would have gone to people
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: in Florida. I guess that's what I'm saying. But right then,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: because this has to get even more ridiculous, North Carolina
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: introduced a bill targeting at getting Disney to relocate. It
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: was called the Mickey's Freedom Restoration Act. Still, as of now,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Disney is set to invest seventeen billion dollars in central
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Florida over the next ten years. Disney is also set
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: to host the quote largest LGBT plus conference in the
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: world beginning in September. People have express concerns about vacationing
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: in Florida now because of this, and the NAACP issued
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: a Trapel advisory recently. And I do also want to say, like,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I really don't like Desantas. I want to be a
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: thousand percent clear on that, but I also don't want
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: to paint Disney in like like they don't have the
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: best in history in this right, Like there's still a
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: company that is trying to make money. A lot of
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: what's happening here is because of the consumers and employees pushing.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: So just just to keep that in mind, some people
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: are saying that this is whole thing is kind of
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: trying Disney trying to cover following profits and massive layoffs.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's true. I'm sure that might be
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: part of it.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: That's the conspiracy theory that conservatives is not really because right.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: And it's so frustrating too, because I mean, we could
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: heart all day about the hypocrisy we're saying over and
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: over again, but for a party and a politician who's
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: constantly like, you know, corporate leave corporations alone, privacy, Like
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: if I mean, can you imagine can you imagine he's
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: trying to install his own people to control a company.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Right, like a billion dollar company, better national company, right.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Stunning hypocrisy. All right, Now, I did want to do
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: a quick updates on the Don't Say Gay Bill because
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: it has been updated to extend to twelfth grade. Now
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: in April twenty twenty three, it was extended from ap quote.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: The rule change would ban lessons on sexual orientation and
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: gender identity from grades four through twelve unless required by
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: existing state standards or as part of reproductive health instruction
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: that students can choose not to take. That's the time
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: when students are becoming aware of their sexuality. So really
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: digging in the heels. I do want to say, kind
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: of like what we talked about two with the book
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: banning episode, there has been a lot of instances of
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: young people protesting, staging walkouts, or not being able to
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: fly Pride flags like so that's heartening to see, but
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: it's this is very upsetting and horrifying. There was a
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: story that came out related to that about how ridiculous
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: and confusing all of this is.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and they're still talking about all the aftermath.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: But a Florida teacher was investigated after showing the Disney
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: film Strange Worlds to fifth graders because of his inclusion
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: of a gay character. The teacher claimed she showed it
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: because it was relevant to her curriculum on ecosystems. The
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: investigation was recently closed and the teacher had all the
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: necessary forms aside beforehand. She expressed fear at the uncertainty
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: of the environment and the parent who reported her. Shanon
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Rodriguez reported her to Florida state officials for violating Don't
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Say Gay. A petition for her removal from the local
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: school board garnered sixteen thousand signatures over two weeks. She
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: said at the school board meeting, you showed a movie
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: that wasn't sanctioned at school material, thus stripping the innocence
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: of my ten year old.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Movie.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a Disney movie PG cartoon that had a character
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: not be talking about being gay, necessarily being in a
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: gay relationship, just being gay. That was just there.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I know that the teacher has fired back at this
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: as well. It has been all over social media talking
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: about it and news. I did also see just recently
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: a veteran who was hardcore veteran came against all of
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: the school board talking about how he had fought fascism
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: during his time in the military and now he's having
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: to fight it in the schools and in Florida today,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: which is so good to see that people are standing
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: up for this. And again I think the much like
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Georgia and the Minia, the South Florida is not as
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: heavily in favor of things like this. This is a
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: political stunt. We knew it was the sanest wants to
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: compete against Trump, which is a whole different conversation, but
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: because of this, because they're the loudest, it does seem
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: like this is the majority of Florida, and that's not true.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Right, And that's thing we also discussed in the book
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Banning One and that woman that we mentioned that was
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: appointed to the council. The santisis Council of Moms for Liberty.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Like it's an organized effort done by not that many people,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: but they are very They've been very effective at organizing
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: and getting people in rooms and making these scenes and
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: being like very distracting. And I also the teacher said
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: she didn't realize that the rule had changed, and she
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: also didn't really think about like the gay character being
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: in there, so that's just an example of how confusing
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: all of this is. And a final note before we
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: move on about this, Cat superfan super listener Cat wrote
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: in recently expressing their frustration around a politician doing something
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: similar where they were but kind of on the flip side,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: where they were saying like, we could do this kind
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: of pride event, but we really shouldn't have a pride
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: parade because the you know, the atmosphere or the environment
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: is not correct for it. So kind of being like
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  Speaker 2: I super support you, yeah, not backing it up at all,
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  Speaker 2: and trying to appease with well, what about this, This
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: should be enough, you don't need anything else, and not
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  Speaker 2: listening to all of the complaints from the citizens who
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  Speaker 2: were saying like, no, we want to have a pride parade,
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  Speaker 2: like this is not and then the politician getting angry
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: and saying essentially like you're asking for too much, like
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I'm doing my best. So that's also We've been talking
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  Speaker 2: a lot about companies, but politicians absolutely do do it too.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: And then finally I wanted to end with I would
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  Speaker 2: say this is kind of an up note. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but there's an article came out that a couple of
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  Speaker 2: you listeners have written about this, and I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was really interesting about how during the pandemic you have
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: found your identity or you have like realized like, oh,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I actually identified this way. It turns out you are
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: not alone. So this article was talking about why that
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: might be, and they were saying things like taking time
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: to stop and think, not being distracted by socialization or commutes,
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  Speaker 2: being able to hear quote the quiet voice, to face
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  Speaker 2: things that you've ignored. A lot of people that interviewed said,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: it's not like I was in denial. It's more like
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I just had never taken the time to hear that
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: quiet voice. A lot of things around reflection and introspection.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I had the question I had who are you performing for?
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I had that a lot during the pandemic, of like, well,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: who was this for all along? But also being online
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: more during quarantine and connecting to others like you, which
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: was part of a larger trend. They made sure to say, like,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: there's no actual data on this, this is just a
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: lot of people reporting it, but it was also kind
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: of a trend that was happening. Ever since, we have
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: gotten more online and we have been able to make
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: those connections some people were talking about fear around death
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  Speaker 2: and not wanting to die without being honest about who
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  Speaker 2: you are, without thinking about what do you really want
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: out of life, And then a lot of people reported
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: kind of this internalized ageist understanding that coming out is
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: only for young people and once you reach a certain age,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: like it's too late, especially if they had like a
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: homophobic family or something. So I just thought that was
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: really fascinating, especially because we've gotten several throughout the pandemic.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: A lot of you have written in about that, So yeah,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: just something to think about. Yes, I know this isn't
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: the easiest episode, but we have to talk about this
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: stuff and we do have a lot of fun content
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  Speaker 2: around the queer community coming out. I hope everyone has
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