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DLHS Hour 2 | Is work from home culture a career killer for women · The D.L. Hughley Show

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  Speaker 1: It is the deal.
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  Speaker 2: You will show your twenty twenty six editions. So emm
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  Speaker 2: a good agreed. Who is the CEO of C of
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  Speaker 2: Skims said this to Kiki.
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  Speaker 3: Part careers require proximity and visibility.
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  Speaker 4: You want to.
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  Speaker 3: Pay rise, you want the next promotion, you want the
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  Speaker 3: big corner office. Guess what you need to be there.
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  Speaker 3: You might not want to hear it because it might
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  Speaker 3: be comfortable in your living room. But the facts are
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  Speaker 3: the facts, and I'm not here to sugarcoat information or
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  Speaker 3: to load women.
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  Speaker 5: You almost also, I don't want to say push us out,
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  Speaker 5: but it's almost slowly away to be like you're not
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  Speaker 5: needed or you don't really it's not there's no urgency
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  Speaker 5: because you're away.
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  Speaker 3: It's eroding the potential for women to be successful.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting do you agree?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's all that controverty because if absent
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  Speaker 2: the workplace being you know, working from home being a thing,
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  Speaker 2: this is not even a controversial thing.
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  Speaker 1: To see say.
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  Speaker 2: Asn't that not being an option? This is not even
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  Speaker 2: a controversial thing to say.
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  Speaker 6: It's funny though you listen to corporations, they'll tell you, oh,
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  Speaker 6: you got to come to work. There was a lot
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  Speaker 6: of people that came to work but did job was
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  Speaker 6: replaced by computers or placed by robots, or every day
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  Speaker 6: they were coming to work every day.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it just depends.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, the one that technology is going to
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  Speaker 2: you know, win every day. The only the only people
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  Speaker 2: who are going to have jobs when AI comes is
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  Speaker 2: the CEOs.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, because I mean yeah, I mean again the way
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  Speaker 7: she responded, because you know, they what questioned her about
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  Speaker 7: the backlash, and because you know, she also said, listen,
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  Speaker 7: I'm with my kids three hours on the weekends.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a weekend mom.
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  Speaker 7: Basically, well that's because she has a husban own the whole, right,
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  Speaker 7: And she said, well, you know, I just think that headline,
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  Speaker 7: that this headline would be different if it were about
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  Speaker 7: a man. And she said, but I wasn't caught off
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  Speaker 7: guard because you know, I think that's what happens to women.
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  Speaker 7: You know, we are held to such an impossible standard,
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  Speaker 7: both as parents but also as business women. And she said,
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  Speaker 7: what I'm trying to do is to be really honest
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  Speaker 7: about what it takes to be you know, all the
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  Speaker 7: things that she.
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  Speaker 2: Does takes clearly one of the sacrifices she's decided was
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  Speaker 2: worth it.
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  Speaker 1: It was spending time with her children. Yeah, that's that's that's.
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  Speaker 6: Her Spanish women have to do that all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I will say this, so I will say this.
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  Speaker 2: It is she is right, it is more of am Now,
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  Speaker 2: I know what it's like, the babysit my kids three hours.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go. You're an expert, I can can I
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  Speaker 1: can relate to her, you feel me?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we're gonna see she's her kids three.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm telling you it's overrated and spending time
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  Speaker 2: with him is overrated. Mister Weekend, I'm telling.
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  Speaker 1: You, bo bo boy. No, I'm just kidding.
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  Speaker 2: The question weren't asking ladies and gentlemen. A young lady
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  Speaker 2: who is the CEO of Skim says, this.
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  Speaker 3: Work from home culture is a career killer for women.
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  Speaker 3: And let me explain to you why, remembering I have
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  Speaker 3: undreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and
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  Speaker 3: hundreds of women that work for me. Now, what is
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  Speaker 3: happening is that we talk about all of this sort
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  Speaker 3: of upside of zoom culture, but none of the rigidity
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  Speaker 3: of it. And no one will really tell you that
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  Speaker 3: careers require proximity and visibility. You want to pay rise,
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  Speaker 3: you want the next promotion, you want the big corner office.
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  Speaker 3: Guess what you need to be there?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that she has a point?
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  Speaker 2: I would say that these are the convergence of two
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  Speaker 2: kind of cultures because before COVID, working from home wasn't
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  Speaker 2: even a real thing, right, Casual Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Was barely catching on.
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  Speaker 6: Thois.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then it became Then it became a thing
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  Speaker 2: where it became a part of your employment package.
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  Speaker 1: You could say you have the opposite of working home.
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  Speaker 2: Now there are people who would leave jobs because if
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't an option, And now I think it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of mediated.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit.
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  Speaker 6: Well, they did studies. They found that people actually working
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  Speaker 6: more hours when they're working at home because you might
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  Speaker 6: be getting up cooking breads, oh I forgot to do this,
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  Speaker 6: and you running the all grabby computer and you're sitting
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  Speaker 6: there watching TV with your computer, and you just you
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  Speaker 6: end up working more than you do it would at
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  Speaker 6: the office.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, and I think it's not a lot of times.
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  Speaker 2: The whole setup for an office, the cubicicles, the way
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  Speaker 2: it's set up.
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  Speaker 1: Is designed to make you an autom of time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but to make you just do your things so I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I will say that there are a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: like New York cities like New York, Los anles, these
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  Speaker 2: down hold downtowns are built on people renting buildings.
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  Speaker 9: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, these real estate people get rich by selling it
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  Speaker 2: by renting buildings. And so if I paid all this
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  Speaker 2: money and a lot of times with these leases a
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  Speaker 2: grandfather in because they don't want to they don't want
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  Speaker 2: to go up on them. So they might buy a
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  Speaker 2: you know, a fifteen ten, fifteen, seven year lease.
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  Speaker 1: If I did that, get your ass in.
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  Speaker 6: It, and them CEOs be flipping money back like the owners. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: they might.
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  Speaker 1: You might not be.
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  Speaker 6: You might be in a company that doesn't own real estate,
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  Speaker 6: but your boy does or your friend does, and Okay,
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna rent this building from you, but you got
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  Speaker 6: this stock for me for here. There's a whole lot
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  Speaker 6: of mess.
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  Speaker 10: You know.
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  Speaker 1: McDonald's was just a real estate. That's all it is.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it was just a real estate.
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  Speaker 11: And there's a lot of things other than just coming
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  Speaker 11: into the offices tied into coming into the office. You know,
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  Speaker 11: the businesses around the business. You know, there's a whole
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  Speaker 11: lot of things that you know, suffered after that COVID.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, parking, parking, all the housekeeping, you know, fleet means.
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  Speaker 1: Were so cheap because we weren't going nowhere.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but still I think all of that is important. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I think all of that is important. But again, I
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  Speaker 7: still will have to lean to the side of the
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  Speaker 7: women who are saying, listen, she's not talking to me.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not part of the demographic that she's looking for
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  Speaker 7: for the book, because she's she's talking about unrealistic type
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  Speaker 7: things for a lot of people. Now, look at this.
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  Speaker 7: She's married, she's got four kids, but she also has
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  Speaker 7: a very rich husband, So of course she's going to
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  Speaker 7: be able to say I can go to the office
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  Speaker 7: and work unbelievable hours and then be a three hour
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  Speaker 7: mom on the weekend because I got two nannies and
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  Speaker 7: I live in a big house.
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  Speaker 12: But that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 7: So what I'm saying the way she.
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  Speaker 1: Said she don't want to be home, she don't like
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  Speaker 1: them people.
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  Speaker 7: Everybody can't afford to do that sort to dole out
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  Speaker 7: that kind of advice.
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  Speaker 1: She don't have to work like that, She don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be home, she don't like them kids. Don't make
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  Speaker 1: my point, but Okay, don't like what was your point?
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  Speaker 1: What was your point?
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  Speaker 6: Oh?
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  Speaker 7: My point is you're you're you're even on your press tour,
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  Speaker 7: your pr tour, bulling, and you're talking to people that
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  Speaker 7: you want to buy your book who cannot live that lifestyle.
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  Speaker 7: You're not You're not talking to the other people who
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  Speaker 7: have rich husbands like you, who are already wealthy. And
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  Speaker 7: this is something that happened to blow up for you
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  Speaker 7: because of a connection with the Kardashiana. Her husband is
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  Speaker 7: the the founder and chairman of Frame, which is a
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  Speaker 7: huge denim company. And it's just she's just literate, and
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  Speaker 7: now she was already rich. So yeah, you don't have
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  Speaker 7: to go home. You could be in the office all day.
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  Speaker 1: They buy aspirational books. How two books? How can I
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  Speaker 1: get the They well, she should write a book how
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  Speaker 1: to marriage man?
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  Speaker 7: Because guess what, uh, Shirley and Memphis can't be at
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  Speaker 7: work all day long and nobody.
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  Speaker 1: Looking after the keys.
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  Speaker 2: The thing she should right is how to get away
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  Speaker 2: with being with your kids for three hours?
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  Speaker 1: Real money?
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  Speaker 10: Right there?
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  Speaker 7: I don't know to write that book.
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  Speaker 1: Book with the sugar Right there? You made this point, Skip,
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  Speaker 1: you said what we're saying I'm.
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  Speaker 6: Just saying there's a lot of people who work. They're
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  Speaker 6: not trying to climb the corporate ladder to be They
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  Speaker 6: want to make a make a good living, solid and
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  Speaker 6: have the flexibility of being able to work at home.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, what they want is to raise it. They don't
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  Speaker 2: want none else. They just want the more money and
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  Speaker 2: less responsibility. That's what everybody, I mean, that's where them
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  Speaker 2: getting there. So good, loough, So we're gonna go there.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that this is what the CEO argues?
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  Speaker 3: You might not want to hear it because it might
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  Speaker 3: be comfortable in your living room, But the facts are
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  Speaker 3: the facts, and I'm not here to sugarcoat information or
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  Speaker 3: to load women.
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  Speaker 5: You almost also, I don't want to say push us out,
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  Speaker 5: but it's almost slowly away to be like you're not
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  Speaker 5: needed or you don't really, it's not there's no urgency
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  Speaker 5: because you're away.
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  Speaker 3: It's eroding the potential for women to be successful.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting. Do you agree we're going right to the phones?
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  Speaker 13: I actually disagree because I'm speaking from experience. I was
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  Speaker 13: out on maternity lead and I received the promotion. I
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  Speaker 13: wasn't even in the building, I wasn't actively working, and
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  Speaker 13: I received the promotion. So I believe it depends on
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  Speaker 13: the individual. So I disagree that you don't have to
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  Speaker 13: be visible to actually receive the promotion, because the way
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  Speaker 13: you work can speak in volumes and it can be
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  Speaker 13: as loud as I don't know what, just as if
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  Speaker 13: you was present remotely or in the building.
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  Speaker 10: I think her she may have a lack of information
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  Speaker 10: because my wife makes she makes over two hundred k,
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  Speaker 10: and she is completely remote. She works from home the
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  Speaker 10: entire time, she has unlimited PTO and she.
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  Speaker 14: Is moving up the ladder. She's never gone into the office.
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  Speaker 14: She doesn't have to go into the office, and.
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  Speaker 10: She is very, very very marketable. So I think you
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  Speaker 10: don't have to be But as far as a woman,
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  Speaker 10: you don't have to be visible.
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  Speaker 14: Basically, I think it just depends on the company that
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  Speaker 14: you work for, and I definitely think that it depends on.
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  Speaker 10: The need for you and the skill that you have.
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  Speaker 15: She's right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean people may not like to hear the truth,
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  Speaker 4: but she's right. If you are trying to put yourself
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  Speaker 4: out there, they want to see. You got to be
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  Speaker 4: in some people's face. So a lot of people are visual,
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  Speaker 4: and especially in certain business arenas you have to be visual,
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  Speaker 4: you have to be accessible. They have to be able
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  Speaker 4: to put a faith with a certain cast I understand.
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  Speaker 4: You know a lot of women may want to work
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  Speaker 4: from home, but yeah, you can work from home, but
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  Speaker 4: if you are trying to get to certain levels which
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  Speaker 4: are higher or more that have more accolade to it,
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  Speaker 4: they're really not going to pay attention to a woman anyway,
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  Speaker 4: and especially women of color, So you really have to
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  Speaker 4: show them I'm here, I'm present. You have to work
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  Speaker 4: ten times as hard anyway, but yeah, you're going to
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  Speaker 4: have to show your face if you want to get
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  Speaker 4: to that next level, if you want to have those
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  Speaker 4: type of accolades.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, the question of my wife she worked from home
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  Speaker 12: and and that I don't. I don't agree with the
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  Speaker 12: lady because my wife were less maintenance on an automobile.
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  Speaker 12: You know, she ain't got to drive, no mouths, I
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  Speaker 12: ain't got to get up early into the traffic. So no,
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  Speaker 12: I don't agree with that working from home. It's a
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  Speaker 12: good thing. You ain't got to be around people you
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  Speaker 12: don't like.
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  Speaker 4: And no, I don't.
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  Speaker 12: I don't agree with that.
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  Speaker 1: So the CEO of UH thank gim to say.
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  Speaker 3: This work from home culture is a career killer for women.
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  Speaker 3: And let me explain to you why, remembering that I
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  Speaker 3: have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
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  Speaker 3: and hundreds of women that work for me. Now, what
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  Speaker 3: is happening is that we talk about all of this
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  Speaker 3: sort of upside of zoom culture, but none of the
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: rigidity of it. And no one will really tell you,
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: But careers require proximity and visibility. You want to pay rise,
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: you want the next promotion, you want the big corner office.
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  Speaker 3: Guess what you need to be there. You might not
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  Speaker 3: want to hear it because it might be comfortable in
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  Speaker 3: your living room, but the facts are the facts. It's
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  Speaker 3: eroding the potential for women to be successful.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, I do you agree? That's the question. We're going
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  Speaker 1: right to the post.
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  Speaker 8: She is absolutely correct. If you're not there, you're not seeing,
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  Speaker 8: you're not recognized. It's like, for instance, an absentee parent,
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  Speaker 8: not necessarily a father. An absent parent only comes once
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  Speaker 8: a year for the holidays.
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  Speaker 15: He's not appreciated.
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  Speaker 8: You're invisible. You have to be present in order to
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  Speaker 8: get the presence. You understand. So if you're not there
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  Speaker 8: at your job and you want promotions. You want to
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  Speaker 8: be recognized, but you're not there physically, you're at home
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  Speaker 8: just doing your thing. Yes, she's absolutely right, and especially
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  Speaker 8: for women of color, you have to be present and
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  Speaker 8: people have to see you in order for you to
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  Speaker 8: be recognized.
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  Speaker 9: I'm a remote black male that works remote, and I
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  Speaker 9: don't think that its career suicide. In fact, actually my
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  Speaker 9: past ten roles have been remote and I've worked my
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  Speaker 9: way up the corporate ladder in the IT field and
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  Speaker 9: actually I'm doing quite well. So I actually think that
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  Speaker 9: depending upon what field you're in, it could go either way.
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  Speaker 15: I really believe that it does not affect your ability
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  Speaker 15: to be promoted in your job. I have been working
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  Speaker 15: from home since twenty nineteen, and I've actually transitioned to
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  Speaker 15: three different departments and all have been and hire positions
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  Speaker 15: with more money, and so it's really always has been
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  Speaker 15: and always will be what you're doing with the position.
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  Speaker 15: How are you showing up and how are you showing
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  Speaker 15: that you're valuing adding value to your organization into the position.
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  Speaker 15: This does not dismiss the things that black women have
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  Speaker 15: to go through on our positions, Like I'm not dismissing
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  Speaker 15: any of that, but just the sheer nature to say
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  Speaker 15: that women in general will be looked over because we
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  Speaker 15: work from home and it's a career killer. I do
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  Speaker 15: not agree with that at all.
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