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NEW: Major Sponsor Pulls Out of "Bachelorette" as Taylor Frankie Paul Addresses Domestic Violence Investigation · I Do, Part 2

• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, it is Wednesday, March eighteenth, and Robot
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: just told me to save it for the podcast because
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: we had plenty to say. Bachelorette starts on Sunday, but
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  Speaker 1: already some are getting out of the Bachelorette and the
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Frankie Paul business with that. Welcome to this episode
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: of Amy and Tjes. When money starts flying, this becomes
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  Speaker 1: a different conversation. This isn't just social media now talking
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  Speaker 1: about what's going on with her. Now a company has
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  Speaker 1: said we're.
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  Speaker 2: Out, exactly, and you would think that that might prompt Disney,
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  Speaker 2: which owns both ABC and Hulu, to say something, make
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  Speaker 2: some sort of comment, some sort of statement, either in
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  Speaker 2: support of Taylor, Frankie Paul and the Bachelorette or distancing themselves,
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  Speaker 2: but they have reined completely silent even now in the
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  Speaker 2: wake of a collaborator, a partner, a very well known
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  Speaker 2: brand pulling out.
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  Speaker 1: Look, if you get to the point where a company
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  Speaker 1: that sells cinnabons doesn't even want to be in business
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  Speaker 1: with you, we should probably we should probably have some conversation.
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  Speaker 3: Uh yes, because as you point out, money talks.
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  Speaker 2: That is when the pressure is real it's not just
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  Speaker 2: public opinion or controversy, which honestly, in a lot of
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  Speaker 2: ways makes all of your promotion all the better.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna have more eyes. Most likely more people are
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  Speaker 3: going to watch.
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  Speaker 2: Sunday's debut of The Bachelorette because of all of this.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe there will be people who will be so disgusted
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  Speaker 2: by the headlines that they will turn it off, But
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  Speaker 2: I would bet that ratings will be up because of this,
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  Speaker 2: and certainly Disney is betting on that.
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  Speaker 1: And what we're talking about here is Cinnabon has come
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  Speaker 1: out now and said they are stepping back and they
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  Speaker 1: are not going to be a part of advertising. They're
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  Speaker 1: not going to be a part of promoting, They're not
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  Speaker 1: going to be a part of any partnership anymore with
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  Speaker 1: the bachelorreat and in particular Taylor Frankie Paul, after the
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  Speaker 1: current controversy has now exploded to a certain degree in
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  Speaker 1: which Robes the police department out there in Utah has
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  Speaker 1: confirmed that there is a criminal investigation into a domestic
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  Speaker 1: violence incident between her and her ex. I guess someone
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  Speaker 1: you share as a child with.
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  Speaker 3: You could put X in quotes because it's unclear.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, Yeah, Yeah, their relationship is constantly on again, off again.
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  Speaker 3: Dakota Mortenson is his name.
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  Speaker 2: He has been prominently featured and so has their toxic
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  Speaker 2: relationship on the Secret Wives of Mormon Lives or Secret
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  Speaker 2: Lives of Mormon Wives.
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  Speaker 3: That was wonderful. I just nailed that up, so.
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  Speaker 1: I can't even say it again. It was so messed up.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know what I said.
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  Speaker 1: Secret Lives foremon O Warwin Lives. What was that? Wow,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go back and listen to that one.
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  Speaker 1: That was That was very special.
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  Speaker 3: That was that's called.
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  Speaker 2: We went to the nixt game last night and I
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  Speaker 2: didn't sleep much.
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  Speaker 1: Oh please, Well, your.
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  Speaker 3: Brain does crazy things when you don't sleep.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, so they have been Anyone who's a fan
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  Speaker 2: of that show absolutely knows who these two are, and
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  Speaker 2: certainly they have history with this specifically Frankie Taylor.
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  Speaker 3: Frankie Paul has history. She actually has criminal history.
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  Speaker 2: She pleaded guilty to one charge or one count of
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  Speaker 2: aggravated assault. She had several charges against her after she
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  Speaker 2: admitted to throwing a barstool at Dakota and it accidentally
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  Speaker 2: instead hit her daughter.
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  Speaker 1: So what we're talking about here is a controversy has
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  Speaker 1: exploded because you have an investigation going on, and now
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  Speaker 1: the what you just mentioned, Robes is coming up again.
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  Speaker 1: So now, Robes, you have Disney Family Company, right, all
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  Speaker 1: about family, all about that mouse. You are not just featuring,
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  Speaker 1: You are not just allowing on your airwaves. You are
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  Speaker 1: promoting prominently as one of the biggest stars on your
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  Speaker 1: ABC network. Now is a woman who is being investigated
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  Speaker 1: for domestic violence and has a domestic violence conviction on
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  Speaker 1: her record that you knew about, and at a time
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  Speaker 1: that you're now telling twenty five guys come and try
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  Speaker 1: out to be in a relationship with her, Robes. This
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  Speaker 1: is a different This isn't jaywalking, This isn't a car accident,
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  Speaker 1: This isn't a yelling a weird This isn't getting caught
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  Speaker 1: on some viral moment on the street, Robes. Why is
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  Speaker 1: domestic violence not being talked about in the way we
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  Speaker 1: are accustomed to and want it to be. There is
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  Speaker 1: a seriousness, Robes to this story that is missing, I.
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  Speaker 2: Feel absolutely, and it's because the gender roles are reversed.
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  Speaker 3: Period.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, stop right there. If there was a guy who
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  Speaker 1: was a bachelor who has a domestic violence conviction on
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  Speaker 1: his record. He's immediately not even an option? Is that right?
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  Speaker 3: A completely different story one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let's say they've shot The Bachelor and the week
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  Speaker 1: it's coming out that guy is under investigation for a
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  Speaker 1: domestic violence incident. What happens? Do they come out and say,
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  Speaker 1: we'll let the process play out. What do you say?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, Robes, what do we talk about domestic violence?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: And the problem is, now, like you said, the show
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  Speaker 2: that it is, it's a dating show, so that makes
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  Speaker 2: it even worse.
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  Speaker 1: Robes, I don't what are we missing? Are we just
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  Speaker 1: waiting for Maybe they're gonna come to their senses. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure these conversations are happening, But I have to ask
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  Speaker 1: as well, how much space are we Disney ABC supposed
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  Speaker 1: to give for innocent to proven guilty. Let's see how
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  Speaker 1: this plays out. Will listen to her side of the story.
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  Speaker 1: She hasn't been convicted in this case? Do we give
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  Speaker 1: room for that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they haven't said anything. I think that's part of
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  Speaker 2: the problem. But we did hear from Taylor Frankie Paul yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: What did you make of her comments?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't like them. I don't know what you do
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  Speaker 1: expect or supposed to expect in this situation. And there's
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  Speaker 1: a legal process, so there's she's limited. But let everybody
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  Speaker 1: else hear it, and then I'll comment about where I
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  Speaker 1: why I wasn't crazy about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because look here you have Taylor Frankie Paul.
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  Speaker 2: This is the big lead up to the Bachelorette. So
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  Speaker 2: she's on a press tour. She is here in New
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  Speaker 2: York City. She has to walk through the press, speak
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  Speaker 2: to the press, and of course this is all anybody
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  Speaker 2: is talking about. Here is what she said last night. Honestly,
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  Speaker 2: just like my heart hurts to see it, to go
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  Speaker 2: through it, especially at this time. Just the timing is
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  Speaker 2: hard and it's a big deal. I feel like every
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  Speaker 2: premiere that I've experienced I've never enjoyed fully, So this
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  Speaker 2: is another one. It's extremely hard, and it took everything
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  Speaker 2: to get me here today. She goes on and says,
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  Speaker 2: it's just heavy. It's a heavy time, and it's unfortunate.
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  Speaker 2: I'm struggling, for sure, But also at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like if I don't show up, then I'm
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  Speaker 2: just giving these opportunities away and not enjoying what we
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  Speaker 2: worked on in something super exciting that's coming, and I
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  Speaker 2: just feel like it was the right thing to do
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  Speaker 2: show up, even though it's hard.
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  Speaker 3: She played the victim.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, baby, are you sure that's it? Is there?
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  Speaker 3: All the comments that I have, did you see this?
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  Speaker 1: No? No, no, I'm just making sure. I'm saying, is
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  Speaker 1: there anything else that you saw? Because that again robes
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't suggest or it doesn't lend itself to understanding
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  Speaker 1: the seriousness of what we are talking about. And yes,
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  Speaker 1: woe is me. Now if she wants to come out
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  Speaker 1: and we don't know what happened, maybe she is the
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  Speaker 1: victim of the sole victim of domestic violence. That's possible.
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  Speaker 3: It's possible.
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  Speaker 2: But all of the reporting out there, and look, you've
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  Speaker 2: got TMZ, you've got people in magazine, You've got everyone
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  Speaker 2: trying to find out what Dakota Mortenson.
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  Speaker 3: Might be saying.
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  Speaker 2: And there are all sorts of allegations that he has videos,
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  Speaker 2: that he has recordings that he can show when he
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  Speaker 2: showed them to inner circles.
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  Speaker 3: So we don't know, but we do know this.
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  Speaker 2: Police have confirmed that there are allegations of violence from
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  Speaker 2: both parties about the other.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, there was nothing she said that addressed the seriousness
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  Speaker 1: of what we're talking about. It was nothing to say
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  Speaker 1: just hey, this is very difficult and it's a private time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed that it's happened, but the legal process has Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that would have been something that this is all hard
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  Speaker 1: on me.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And she went on to talk so she that
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  Speaker 2: was what she said about about the actual when people
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  Speaker 2: asked her about the allegations and the domestic violence headlines.
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  Speaker 2: But she went on to talk about the Bachelorette, and
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  Speaker 2: she referenced a little.
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  Speaker 3: Bit of.
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  Speaker 2: The problems in her relationships, not just maybe with Dakota,
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  Speaker 2: but even with the other women. So again more victimhood here.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll give you this last quote because you asked
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  Speaker 2: if she said anything else.
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  Speaker 3: She did say this.
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  Speaker 2: She said that going on the Bachelorette allowed her to
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  Speaker 2: get quote out of my toxicity.
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  Speaker 3: Of a life in Utah and bubble. It was like
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  Speaker 3: the best thing I could have done.
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  Speaker 2: There was a lot of reassurance in who I am,
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  Speaker 2: you know, from all these men just being kind and
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  Speaker 2: gentle and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 3: It kind of brought out.
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  Speaker 2: My true side of who I am, and honestly believe
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  Speaker 2: in me value worth. They made me feel reassured in
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  Speaker 2: that and reminded of that. It was a journey of
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  Speaker 2: also that too. So again talking about gentle as in
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  Speaker 2: gentle men, but she specifically used the word gentle. She
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  Speaker 2: talked about toxicity, but again there was no acknowledgment of
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  Speaker 2: any role she played in any of it. It was
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  Speaker 2: all about poor me. This is hard. Why does this
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  Speaker 2: keep happening to me?
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  Speaker 3: Every time? At her premiere but all of the headlines
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  Speaker 3: have been her doing.
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  Speaker 1: Again, I'm trying to roase. I'm trying always to leave space.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know this woman well, spend a little time with her.
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  Speaker 1: We did, but we like her. We think she's authentic.
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  Speaker 1: We think she's a decent woman, right, a decent person.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody has issues, and we encourage everybody to get help
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  Speaker 1: with those issues. And whatever those issues are, we don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's the end of that person, or it should.
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  Speaker 1: They no longer deserve a life of dignity, respect or
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  Speaker 1: able aur ability to go out and make money or
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  Speaker 1: promote them whatever, whatever. That's fine. Romees, I still question.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to raise my hand and ask Disney
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  Speaker 1: ABC a question about whatever that sliding scale might be.
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  Speaker 1: Of morality, of family, of decency, of acceptable public behavior.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to ask that question this. They had
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  Speaker 1: her on the red car. She is a superstar for
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  Speaker 1: them that they're banking on with ratings. So let me
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  Speaker 1: ask you, Robes if if on Sunday this thing premieres
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  Speaker 1: it has record ratings or at least increased ratings, does
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  Speaker 1: Disney not give a damn about any of this other noise.
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  Speaker 1: All that matters is we god numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I think we have learned this and seen this
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  Speaker 2: and experienced this.
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  Speaker 3: They read, ah, they read.
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  Speaker 2: The comments, They read what people are saying, and they
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  Speaker 2: make their decision based on where they think public opinion is.
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  Speaker 1: That's I think maybe a lot of companies do that.
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  Speaker 1: But they are waiting. This is an investment they've put
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  Speaker 1: in there. Okay, maybe that's they are waiting to see
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  Speaker 1: which way the wind blows.
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  Speaker 3: That is what I believe.
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  Speaker 1: Stay here because the wind right now is starting to
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  Speaker 1: blow in a different direction. And one company in particular
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  Speaker 1: we mentioned off the top, Cinnabon does not want to
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  Speaker 1: be in the bachelorette business. And listen to their statement.
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  Speaker 1: We'll read it for you. While they say they do
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  Speaker 1: not want anything to do with Taylor. Frankie Paul continuing
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  Speaker 1: here on this Wednesday morning, I think Robes, you've you
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  Speaker 1: hit on a good point there. Does it matter? Will
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  Speaker 1: it matter to Disney ABC? As long as the ratings
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  Speaker 1: are good on Bachelorette all this controversy, will they care?
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  Speaker 1: You said it? Probably correctly. They are watching very closely
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  Speaker 1: to see who's saying what, and I'm sure they're hearing
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  Speaker 1: from advertisers behind the scenes before any of them say
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  Speaker 1: anything publicly.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, can you imagine what's going on? We can.
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  Speaker 2: We do have a little insight into what's most certainly
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: going on behind the scenes, and they are panicking because
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: they don't know where they end up.
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  Speaker 1: You think it's they're having a conversation about pulling the show.
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  Speaker 2: I think that has been a conversation. They have to,
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  Speaker 2: don't They absolutely, we have to have the conversation. Reports
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  Speaker 2: out there that that has happened. There are reports out
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  Speaker 2: there that that is happening. We don't actually know if
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  Speaker 2: it is, but you'd have to think that they have
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  Speaker 2: had to consider that possibility because this could go from
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  Speaker 2: bad to worst. Who knows what if there are videos,
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  Speaker 2: what if Dakota does release videos what if there become
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  Speaker 2: viral moments of her?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure they are planning for worst case scenario and
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  Speaker 2: hoping for the best.
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  Speaker 1: Well, is there any scenario where you can survive putting
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  Speaker 1: her on as a star of your network and survive
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  Speaker 1: videos of her when you.
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  Speaker 2: Have publicly, in multiple instances, claim that you've made decisions
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  Speaker 2: based on family values.
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  Speaker 3: I find that very hard to stomach.
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  Speaker 1: There's money, though, baby, I don't know. Man, that's money
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  Speaker 1: and money money if those ratings are good on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: But do we even get to Sunday?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: And so to that point, yes, Cinnabon pretty quickly yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: it was pretty.
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  Speaker 3: Swift, came out with this statement.
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  Speaker 2: After the allegations became public, they released this, Cinnabon has
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  Speaker 2: made the decision to terminate its collaboration with The Bachelorette
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  Speaker 2: and the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Recent developments and
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  Speaker 2: allegations surrounding the lead cast member led us to reassess
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  Speaker 2: this collaboration as it no longer aligns with our brand values.
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  Speaker 3: Ouch.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they went and got very specific. They didn't
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: name her name, but clearly they pointed the finger directly
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: at her and this collaboration was this new Sworld soda.
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  Speaker 2: So Mormons typically don't drink caffeine or alcohol or coffee,
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  Speaker 2: so you've got cinnabon coming up with. He saw the
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: girls drinking these worlds soda, so they created one specifically
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  Speaker 2: for that brand. They had the cup, sleeves and the
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  Speaker 2: packaging with the bachelorette and Mormon wives on it. So
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: they think about how much that probably cost to print
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  Speaker 2: all of these cups and these sleeves and just promoting
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: the drink. And now it's all And by the way,
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: this collaboration began last week, Babe, March ninth. They rolled
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  Speaker 2: this all out literally eight days later.
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  Speaker 3: They had to say never mind, Oh that's a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: And you make by describing realized what the collaboration was.
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  Speaker 1: That is the problem with collaborating with Bachelorette is because
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: so much of the things you collaborate on are specific
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: and sweet. They're heartwarming. They have everything to do with
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  Speaker 1: love and companionship and roses and arms.
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  Speaker 3: Fuzzy feelings.
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  Speaker 1: Yes you can. There is nothing you cannot warm and
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  Speaker 1: fuzzy your way around domestic violence, no anything, name anything else.
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  Speaker 1: Babe in the almost This is a criminal act. That
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  Speaker 1: is one of the worst things you can get accused
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  Speaker 1: of in a relationship. I guess the robes.
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  Speaker 3: If you're a man, Wow, there's the caveat.
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  Speaker 1: What's the conversation? Baby? Should we all just say it
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  Speaker 1: out loud? It's not the same and we should not
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  Speaker 1: see it the same. If a woman hits a man,
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  Speaker 1: it's different because generally the man is a bigger, the
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  Speaker 1: stronger guy. She can't have as much to impact. So therefore,
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  Speaker 1: is domestic violence perpetrated by a woman different and should
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  Speaker 1: be treat it differently then a man should it. We
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  Speaker 1: had this conversation yesterday and you had the same look
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  Speaker 1: on your face. We're trying to figure this out.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard because I think we have to acknowledge that
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  Speaker 2: there is a difference in impact. But if it escalates
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  Speaker 2: and it's okay for a woman to hit, push, shove, choke, bite, scratch,
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is, I think she was accused of all
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  Speaker 2: of the above.
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  Speaker 1: You weren't just reeling stuff off. That's specifically what the
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  Speaker 1: accusations are.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you know, if there's a knife near, if there's
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  Speaker 2: a gun in the house, like you just think how
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  Speaker 2: things like you have to consider all of that. That
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  Speaker 2: violence can lead to more violence, and you can't just
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  Speaker 2: brush it away or say it's okay, or oh, it
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  Speaker 2: was just you know, a little girl, you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of like basically flicking a big guy.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that conversation's happening as well in some room,
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  Speaker 1: somebody saying, well, maybe the public won't be as tough
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  Speaker 1: on it because it's a one Absolutely, you think that
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  Speaker 1: conversation Jesus Christ, because.
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  Speaker 3: To your point, if this were reversed, there would be zero.
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  Speaker 1: What are we talking about? Nothing to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: And right now Disney's silence is deafening. I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: says so much that they've said nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they just want to get to Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: Baby, that's what they're hoping.
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  Speaker 1: You're thinking, you're going to watch. This turns me off
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  Speaker 1: from watching. I know you told me that ye had
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  Speaker 1: a level of interest in it because of our time
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  Speaker 1: with her, just out of curiosity, just curiosity. Now this
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  Speaker 1: feels like a you know what, It doesn't feel authentic,
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  Speaker 1: it feels like a mess. It feels like completely up.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: We're being played for the sake of getting people to watch,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter. We're desperate. We don't care what
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: you think of her and what she's done. We just
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: want everybody talking about it and give us some numbers,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: give us the viewership. It seems like that's all that matters.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: This was supposed to save the franchise.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, what is it? They didn't do it last summer? Yes,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: they pushed it b right. Did they change the schedule?
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah's and they've moved it from Monday nights to Sunday nights.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: And look it's only Twesday. Look no, it's Wednesday. It's
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: only Wednesday.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: They still have I mean, if you opened your phone
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: yesterday or opened your computer to any any online.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: News source, it was everywhere and the headlinnch.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: And now that the truth is we know this cycle once,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: especially the tabloids know that this is a highly clickable story,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: which it is. They are going to dig and dig
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: and dig and get these headlines aren't going anywhere.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: They're going to get wilder and they survive.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Can the bach there read survive the next three days
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: of nonstoppen?
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: How many millions have you put into this woman and
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: this show which has been shot? It's done right? Oh yeah,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's in the can.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: There are if you go dig enough I have. Unfortunately
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: you can see who people say she ends up with.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, yes, Coyne.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: He sent her off here. Honey, let's spend one last
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: night together. Now go find love that the show actually rolled,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: has gotten to a point where you believe in love,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: where you believe in possibility. Who are favorites? We love this.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I love that season. That was the first season, and
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: that it was real, it was authentic. And look in
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: this whole world of reality TV, that's what people want
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: and that's the last thing they're getting.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Oh god, Okay, Well, we'll see how this shakes it
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: to TVD. Will be developments on this, no doubt. Right.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Do you know what she has next to her next promotion?
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: She's in New York.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but she's in New York.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Industry was expected to be making all the rounds this
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: week promoting the Bachelorette.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Good luck.
• 20:13
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• 20:15
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• 20:27
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• 20:31
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