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Ghost hunting for 8 years: our most IMPACTFUL paranormal experiences that changed the way we investigate (Halloween Special) · Paranormal Lens - A Crossroads Of Curiosities, LLC Production

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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back.
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Welcome back. Do you want some chocolate? Chocolate.
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Chocolate. Chocolate. Chocolate. How dare you?
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After last week's episode was the Patrick Starr
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demon? I was gonna say, most importantly, don't
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give Patrick Starr any chocolate. I always hated
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it. I feel like I'm right back at the gates of
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hell. Oh! Anyways. Do we have a topic? What's
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the topic? I don't know. Patrick Star? It is
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not Patrick Star. Any people... I forgot to ask
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this in the last episode last week. Is there
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any people out there who has any experiences
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or encountered a demon format of Patrick Star?
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I would love to hear about it. Because I have
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always kind of wondered this. And I can never
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find anything online about it. So if anyone has
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any experiences with a demon that looks like
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Patrick Star that they experienced at the threshold
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of hell. Please get in contact with us. And she's
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totally 100 % serious about this. I am serious
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about it. If you haven't listened to last week's
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episode, you have to. You wouldn't know she was
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talking about threshold demons resembling Patrick
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Star from Spongebob based on the title because
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the main topic was owls. And thank God she isn't
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talking anymore about fucking owls at the start
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of this. She's been talking for weeks about,
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let's talk about owls, guys. Let's talk about
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owls. And we just gave her her owl moment. But
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now we have a whole new can of worms, and that
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is. I'm the one on this podcast that will talk
2:04
about anything and everything, no matter how
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far -fetched it is. Like, I talked about sandwiches.
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I feel like I'm the person who just keeps trying
2:16
to reel you guys back in. Especially like, hey,
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come back. We need to finish the topic we're
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talking about now. Is that what you're doing
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with your eyebrows every time they raise when
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we speak? Is that your fishing reel? Hey, hey.
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Is it bending? Because the fish is so heavy.
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We took such a detour down the stream of... Are
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we conscious? What's going on? Where are we?
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What podcast is this? I don't know. You almost
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said our old name. I know, but we can't cut to
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the intro yet because we haven't even announced
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what we're talking about today. We're free reeling.
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Tomorrow is Halloween. Today, we're just going
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to talk about our most poignant and impactful
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paranormal experiences. Let's get spooky. Let's
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get laid back. hitting some heavy hitters lately
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some really serious topics like owls and bikini
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bottom so let's get straight to it what's our
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most poignant powerful intense paranormal experience
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that forever changed and shaped our lives on
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this episode of paranormal lens welcome to our
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podcast where we take deep dives looking at various
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topics through a paranormal lens If there was
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a award for worst podcast intro. I thought that
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was pretty good. What the fuck are you talking
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about? That was amazing. I feel like we're halfway
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into this episode and we just. We just now said
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what the topic was. We've gone through like five
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ad breaks. all the listeners like do i really
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want to listen to one more ad about a sex toy
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before no that's that's a real thing apparently
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angela got an ad about a sex toy on this podcast
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and yeah i did i had to change a bunch of settings
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and like to make sure that never happened again
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no so the first time we had ads and i was like
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i want to see what our podcast is like was ad
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so i turned it on the first ad was of sex toy
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store and it was talking about like an orgasm
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for like a whole 30 seconds straight and I'm
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like this is not what I want as our like type
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of advertisement on our podcast and I told I
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texted Ben I was like hey so this is the ad that
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came up for our podcast are you able to like
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control like what ads we get he was like no but
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then later saying that you you could go in there
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and like take out certain types of yeah the way
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it works for the distributors i don't choose
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which ones get put on i just choose which ones
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don't go on again i can like deselect but i can't
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select so i was able to deselect i feel like
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i um never actually like listened to the like
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ads that pop up in the podcast whenever i listen
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to it i'm like trying to think of any that i've
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listened to that are like huh that was interesting
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i cannot think of a single ad at all no it's
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i can't remember any other ads either except
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for that um the sex toy store one That's just
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wild. We're officially getting demonetized between
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Angela talking about orgasms and sex toys and
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then Brianna saying, I don't even listen or pay
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attention to the ads anyways. They're going to
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be like, so we're going to demonetize you and
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you won't even know a difference. Say goodbye
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to the 60 cents we've made. Bye. Bye. You're
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never going to give us ads again. This stems
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from me saying the worst podcast intro and somehow
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we... Made it even worse. Somehow it's even worse.
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Happy Halloween! It's just getting spooky on
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this episode. Don't let it get too spooky now.
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Gotta keep it PG to a certain extent. Well, who
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wants to go first with their life -changing paranormal
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event? Not me, because I don't really have an
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event. You've done too much talking! No! Brianna,
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I think you really want to go first. You think
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I should go first? Okay. Cool. Awesome. Now I
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feel pressured. Oh, if you don't want to, I can
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go first. I just think we all agree not Angela.
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Real quick, do we want to do a live rock, paper,
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scissors? Yes. Okay. Okay. All right. On shoot?
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Wait, am I part of this? Okay. You can participate.
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Yeah. Even if I won, am I still not going to
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go first? I just really want to be included with
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this. Yeah, sure. I guess. Sure. Sure. Okay.
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Hold on. Let me get comfy. The listeners are
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like, oh my God, am I going to be able to listen
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to 10 minutes of this episode without Angela
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saying something inappropriate? They really,
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they really want to get through the first quarter.
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No more orgasms. No more sex toys. Stop. They
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were about to keep listening. I'm sorry. On shoot
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or on three? One, two, three, and then you go
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on shoot. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. When
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you don't go one, two, three, you go rock, paper,
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scissors. I have a blonde sometimes. It's okay.
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Okay, ready. Are we ready? Yes. Wait, what do
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you get if you win? Because we're playing three
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ways. It's a dual elimination. If you win, I
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guess you go first. But that's not winning. I
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don't want to win. if you lose then you go again
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there's a dual limit no but there's three of
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us playing so it's a dual elimination yeah yeah
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okay all right ready okay all right rock rock
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paper scissors no no no wait hang on what do
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you mean no no no free talk you were not in sync
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okay what only one person counts off okay exactly
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all right rock Paper, scissors, shoot. How did
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we all pick scissors? We all got scissors? Oh,
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gosh. Okay. Okay. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
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We all got scissors again! This is a domus podcast.
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We're turning this in and we're playing rock,
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paper, scissors for... People are driving their
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cars right now, and as soon as Angela finally
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shut up about orgasms, we're playing rock, paper,
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scissors for them, and we keep getting scissors.
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Okay, next one. Scissors isn't allowed. Okay,
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no, we can't do that, because then whoever pulls
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paper automatically wins. I'm saying that knowing
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that someone will do scissors, though. What?
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Go ahead, Bree. We're all sick of this already.
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Rock. Paper, scissors, shoot. Okay. I killed
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Ben, but Ben beat me. Wait, how does this work?
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How does this work? Can you play as three people?
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Because for the listeners, I did scissors, Brianna
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did paper, Angela did rock. Is there, like, a
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PEMDAS situation where you, like, multiply before
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you divide? Okay, what about you two just do
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it because I don't want to go first. Wait, so
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this whole segment was wasted? I don't know.
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Because you realize we're idiots? We need to
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get going. Let's get going on the topic. Okay,
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you two hooligans get going with the topic because
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I don't really have a significant moment. Okay,
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well between the two of us, you beat me so I
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go first. Okay. Fair. There we go. Angela just
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wanted to be included, so it doesn't matter anyways.
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Exactly. Getting back on track, a little birdie
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chirped in my ear and said, chirp, chirp, Stimson
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Hospital, chirp, chirp. I feel like the great
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dove from beyond swooped down to tell me you
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might be talking about Stimson Hospital. Is that
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just a rumor? No, stop it with owls. Put that
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back in your subconscious. Put that back in the
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last episode. We're done with it. That ship has
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sailed. I am actually going to talk about Stimson
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Hospital. It is one of our favorite places to
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investigate. I would say it is probably one of
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the places that we have investigated the most
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out of all places. And we also were... kind of
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privileged to be one of the first teams to ever
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get to investigate there um how many years ago
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was that 20 that was in 2018 so that was 2018
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uh if you can do the math that was about eight
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years ago seven years ago which i was not there
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for that first investigation but i was there
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for the second time yes um is that really 2018
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Yeah, that was 2018 because the new owners bought
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it in 2017 and I saw an article about it. We
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started doing paranormal stuff in 2017 and we
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just went to every local cemetery in Ingham County,
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Michigan until we graduated, so to speak, from
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cemeteries and wanted to find some indoor locations
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nearby that we could easily Uber to because they're
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our only driver at the time. drove an unreliable
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Mustang, especially in the winters. He got stuck
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at various haunted locations, and we had to dig
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his Mustang out from haunted cemeteries and roads
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with coat hangers. And it also only fit three
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people in it, and at the time we had a lot more
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people in our group or people who wanted to come
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with us, so it was a little bit inconvenient.
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I remember we packed four people in the back
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of that Mustang, and that was the most uncomfortable
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car ride ever. Yes, especially knowing the destination
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was... Because at the time, everything was new
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and scary. The destination was a haunted road,
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a haunted cemetery, there's demons, ooh. It's
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not like you're even going somewhere fun. I mean,
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it was fun, but our version of fun. But anyways,
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yeah, we've been back every year since, so that's
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like, we've been there at least a dozen times.
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And, you know, two of our documentaries that
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we've made, our one documentary, one short film,
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have both taken place. at Stimson hospital. So,
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um, but so my second time or my first time ever
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being there, was it my first time or was it my
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second time? I don't remember. No, it was, it
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was your second time. The first time I think
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was the night we did that live stream and you
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got hissed at. Yeah. I got hissed at the first
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time I went there. Cause there was, yeah, I was
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sitting in the live stream with another member
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and or we were chatting with people on the live
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stream they're like oh there we can see something
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behind you and it's like we're watching the pixels
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on the screen we couldn't see anything we're
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looking behind us there's nothing behind us out
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of nowhere just the sudden hiss came from the
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other side of the room we both looked at each
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other we both just inched closer to the computer
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we're like well that happened and um we're just
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gonna continue on like it didn't because what
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else were we going to do? And then you really
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wanted to go back. Yeah, that sold me. It's like,
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yep, we're going to go back in the future. Wait,
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back in the future? In the DeLorean? Would you,
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okay, serious question though. Would you, this
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moment you're about to talk about, this terrifying
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experience that stuck with you since and changed
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the way you investigate. With the eight years
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of experience you have under your belt now, would
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you go back in time to that investigation as
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present day Brianna to observe it and perhaps
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be there knowing what you know now? Yeah. You
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know, I don't know. And that's for reasons that
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I will go into because I don't know if I want
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to feel like that again. that is fair have you
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ever felt like this before we get into it is
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this the only time you've felt what you're about
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to describe yes okay so what did you experience
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so we were up investigating um what it's it's
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called the red room um which we found out later
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or maybe like in that same time frame um used
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to be the surgery suite of the hospital and we
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were doing a fully lights -out investigation.
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We were just sitting there. No spirit box going.
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I don't even know if we had a voice recorder
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going. We were just sitting in the moment. I'm
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so sorry. I'm so sorry. I should put my phone
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away when I do these. Angela sent a picture to
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us of a demonic Patrick Starr engraving. I'm
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so sorry. Where did I send that right now? I
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just saw it and I had to send it. How did you
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have a straight face when you sent it? Okay.
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So anyways, we're in this... Save to camera roll.
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Save to camera roll. I'm so sorry. I'm going
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to post this on our social media so people can
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see it. Anyways, we were in this patient room.
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We were in the surgery room. We were just going
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lights out, just sitting in the room. Just feeling
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the vibe. Like I said. I don't think we were
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recording. I don't think we were running a spirit
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box. Any sort of like. Anything that was like.
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A ghost hunting tool. You know why? We had a
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discussion. I had a discussion earlier in the
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day. Or in a week leading up. And I said I'm
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sick of. We keep filming all these things. uh
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for reasons we weren't making anything out of
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them they were you know nothing was getting done
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um so i said you know what i bet if i don't film
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anything tonight something's gonna happen we're
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gonna have amazing experiences you know um regardless
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so let's just go and not film anything and just
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be in the moment and have all these crazy experiences
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so so we were just sitting In the dark, I don't
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even think we were having a conversation, like
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trying to talk to anything. We were just sitting
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there, like I said, feeling it out, letting our
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energy settle in the room, letting the energy
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there get used to us, what have you. And I'm
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sitting there on the bed, and I'm facing Ben,
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who's on the opposite side of the room. And all
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of a sudden, the right side of my body, starting
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at my hand, And then started going up to my shoulder
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and then down my leg. Just the whole right side
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of my body started going numb and tingly. And
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I couldn't feel it. Felt like I couldn't move.
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And I just got this strong wave of emotion, like
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sadness. Like I wanted to cry. Felt like I wanted
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to vomit. Like I felt so emotional. But I just,
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I couldn't move. And my head was just splitting,
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like worst headache ever out of nowhere in just
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a split second. And I'm like, I'm trying to talk,
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trying to say something because Ben is sitting
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literally three feet away from me. I finally
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can manage to like say it out loud. Like, oh
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my God, I feel so sick. My head hurts. My whole
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body, like my half of my body's numb. And Ben's
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like, I swear to God, don't mean to scare you.
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And that's not the thing you say to someone who's
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already looking terrified and says they don't
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feel good. Says, I don't mean to scare you. I
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am sorry. Yeah, he's like, I don't mean to scare
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you. But literally when you said that, you got
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enveloped by a shadow. You were totally black.
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And yes, we were sitting in the dark. But it's
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the type of thing that's darker than. Yes. And
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I'm like, I swear to God, no, thank you. I immediately
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turned on my flashlight and like, I was emotional.
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Like I had tears coming out of my eyes and I'm
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like, okay, I think that's, that's it for me
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for the night. I'm like, I'm done in this room.
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Um, yeah, I think later, like, I don't know if
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it was at the same time around the same time
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or if it had been prior both you, Ben. and one
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of the other team members had had dreams of like
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being paralyzed or numb on the right side of
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your body and we had later found out that there
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was a person who passed away in that room from
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a stroke and had lost mobility in the right side
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i think it was yes so this had happened after
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the first ever investigation the the way the
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first investigation of stimson played out it
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was really weird it was the last minute i think
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the date got changed last minute um not on our
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um account i think there's like a snowstorm or
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something that made it get rescheduled so like
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no one was able to go i think it was just me
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and one or two other people so after that i had
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this really weird dream and so did everyone else
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present like yeah like i said it's just like
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two or three of us we all had a shared dream
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which is funny we keep talking about these dreams
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that we never thought to mention in our dream
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episode but whatever very soon yeah but we all
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had these dreams of we were back in that room
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like I could place myself to that room and my
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right side of my body got numb I started feeling
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all these weird things I got a headache and I
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started losing feeling and in my body and then
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when we went back to Stimson a week later to
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film some more stuff we brought along an additional
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member so there's like a fourth person with us
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they had no idea about this dream and they started
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feeling in the room numbness on the right side
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of their body and as they were describing feeling
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numb we got our first evp ever saying help me
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so after that moment when this third party so
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to speak experienced the same thing i thought
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okay everyone knew coming to simpson i'm not
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going to tell them about the dream and we never
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put it in a video or anything yeah and then what
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was it like a year later i had that experience
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and i had no idea because i didn't tell i didn't
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it wasn't like keeping it from you it was keeping
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it from everyone just because it was like we
21:37
didn't put weird woo -woo shit in videos back
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then and it was like a long form test of like
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everyone in this room felt this thing either
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in dreams after or in the moment and you you
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were one of the people Yeah. And, like, yes,
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I have since then had occasions where I've gotten,
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like, headaches or emotional, but, like, never
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have I had that feeling, like, all of it at the
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same time and having this one side of my body
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go numb and not feel like I could do anything
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about it. Like, have not had that happen since.
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Don't think I want to have that happen again.
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But, yeah, that was... A very impactful moment
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for me. One of the things that really put Stimson
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on my radar and definitely puts it in my top
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three places for investigating. Well, weird thing
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is, you said you haven't felt it again since,
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but... This past weekend, we were actually back
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at Simpson Hospital for the Blood Moon Parafest
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3, the third annual event. And we helped lead,
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alongside a couple other teams, the public ghost
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hunt in the evening. Yeah. And you felt something.
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Yeah. It wasn't the same thing. We felt we both
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got headaches. We both got headaches. We both
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felt numbness and pain on the right side of our
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body. Randomly. Yeah, not like as intense. I
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felt more affected in the basement this time.
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Oh yeah, you did. Yeah, like definitely there
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was something down there that was more following
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me. Yeah, I got really affected in the basement
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there one time. I just got like a big rage of
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like anger and just wanted to punch you guys
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all. But no, there was that one instance when
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we were in the surgery room again and I was in
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there doing dowsing rods and me and Angela were
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talking to two different entities with the dowsing
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rods. Yeah, that's what it seemed like. And one
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seemed like it was standing over by the doorway
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and wasn't coming in. And all of a sudden, Ben
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just willy -nilly walks in and he comes in. and
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sits down on the bed in front of me and like
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as he came up to me i just got this surge of
24:14
adrenaline energy my hands kind of went numb
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for a second and i'm like oh my god that like
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something followed you in and you were just like
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i swear to god i felt the same thing when i walked
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in the door i felt like it was that followed
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me in and then after that moment it kind of like
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dispersed and went away so it was weird because
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i I had two instances that investigation where
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I had like, I don't want to call it a psychic
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vision, but I saw something third eye wise, which
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like never happens. Like sometimes I get feelings,
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you know, Ooh, feelings. I'm using like air quotes,
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but I literally saw it behind someone. You know,
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cause we were doing a public ghost on. So there's
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a lot of people that I saw behind someone like
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a face. Oh really? Yeah. And then after that,
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I just was like, Okay, because there's like two
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rooms on the second floor that were like kind
25:05
of bouncing in between that like people were
25:07
spread out and kind of camped out in and I was
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kind of just like bouncing between the two. So
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I saw the face and I was just like, once I realized
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it was not actually something there, I was like,
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all right, time to go to the other room. I didn't
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hear about this. Like, where was this? This was
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in the room opposite to the surgical room on
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the second floor. Which one is the surgery room?
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The one with the staircase up to the attic. uh
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yes okay so okay that room yeah we were there
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the room adjacent and i there was another group
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kind of camped out there doing a separate session
25:41
from you guys and i was bouncing between the
25:42
two just you know making sure everything was
25:44
good and um yeah when i saw that face and realized
25:49
it wasn't someone there i was like all right
25:50
this is time for me to go check on brandon angela's
25:52
group and then as i was walking i got this like
25:56
surge of like adrenaline and energy but then
25:59
as soon as i like walked in the room proper and
26:03
cross that threshold into the room I felt like
26:06
really just like everything drained like my legs
26:08
felt like they weighed like 50 pounds and then
26:11
as soon as I felt that right before this right
26:14
before I entered the room and then that I believe
26:18
gave me this adrenaline you know as I started
26:20
getting this pep in my step as I was walking
26:22
to this room and then as soon as I felt all sluggish
26:25
and just drained Brianna's like I feel adrenaline
26:28
I'm like i yeah gave it to you okay yeah that's
26:33
literally what it felt like it was like a transference
26:35
of energy from you to me um as you came in the
26:38
room it was like whoa i've never had that feeling
26:42
before it was definitely weird and it's weird
26:45
that is tied back to i mean perhaps a weaker
26:47
sensation but it's the same sensation that you
26:51
had you know in the initial experience you were
26:54
just talking about which was like probably six
26:57
or seven years ago yeah and That same feeling
27:01
is now after I saw a face or something. I don't
27:05
even know how to describe after that. Then suddenly
27:08
we're transferring this feeling back. We sound
27:12
so woo -woo right now. Happy Halloween, everyone.
27:15
Happy Halloween. We are a very woo -woo people.
27:18
Yeah, I made a post on social media about investigation
27:24
highlights. Yeah, I saw that. This is... One
27:29
of the highlights, I just didn't know how to
27:31
put in a bullet form in a little blurb, so I'm
27:36
glad we're talking about it. Yeah, okay. Well,
27:38
since you're kind of talking about your experiences,
27:42
why don't we transition to what is your most
27:45
pivotal, impactful experience that you've had?
27:49
You know, it's hard, because I was thinking about
27:52
this earlier when we decided to talk about this.
27:56
live on the air no i'm kidding but it's it did
27:58
seem like we came to this topic live on the air
28:00
after that horrendous intro um no but this this
28:04
was planned for a whole hour or two so we had
28:06
time to prepare um i was thinking back because
28:11
in the early days like i kind of alluded to everything
28:14
was like new everything you know our first evp
28:19
wasn't our best evp but it was our first evp
28:23
so it's elevated and it makes you know it's impactful
28:27
and it changed the way we investigate and like
28:30
view the afterlife not because it's a great EVP
28:33
but because it's the first time we notice that
28:35
like you know oh there's weird anomalies on the
28:39
audio this moment you know at Stimson where it
28:43
said help me yeah could have been anything could
28:46
have been shuffling of the shoe you know go back
28:48
and analyze it to death eight years later could
28:51
be anything but but it really did you know impact
28:56
the way we record you know marking the recorder
29:00
you know placing several recorders around not
29:05
holding the recorder because it causes fidgeting
29:07
you know all these things you know even from
29:09
the analytical side changes the way we investigate
29:11
so in in the beginning there's so many examples
29:13
of you know small stuff like that um And you
29:18
probably knew all that stuff though, Brie, because
29:20
you grew up watching like the shows and everything.
29:22
So you probably knew a lot of like the, you know,
29:25
even if you don't, didn't think of it in such
29:29
like step -by -step, you know, analytical fashion,
29:31
you probably knew some things about recorders
29:33
and just by copying the investigators on the
29:36
TV, no? Yeah, probably only as much as you. Okay.
29:40
Okay. You were the lead investigator of the paranormal
29:43
club. You also had that role at some point too.
29:47
Nope. I was, I just jumped to co -president.
29:50
No, no, no, no, no. I was not a lead investigator
29:53
ever. No. Yeah, you were. Because you were lead
29:55
investigator the year that I was, um, the, you
30:00
were, you were lead investigator our sophomore
30:02
year. Was I? I was, yeah. And I was, um, on the,
30:08
uh, oh my gosh, chairman of membership. And then
30:12
the next year you were co -president with. Oh.
30:17
Yeah, and then I... I mean, I was basically just
30:19
president, and then the co -president was slacking.
30:20
Yeah, I was chairman of membership again. You
30:23
guys were so fancy then. Yeah, and then Carl
30:26
was lead investigator that year. Carl, yes. you
30:32
me and carl with three people on that e -board
30:34
that did anything that you paranormal club would
30:37
have collapsed without the the two of you um
30:39
i don't maybe maybe i didn't feel like lead investigator
30:42
because i i don't think i think after me once
30:45
you were an investigator you started like keeping
30:47
the equipment right yeah well i didn't i didn't
30:50
become lead investigator on the team until my
30:53
last year at msu my fifth year because then the
30:56
next year i was co -president And that was during
31:01
COVID. So we literally didn't do anything. And
31:05
someone else was lead investigator, but it didn't
31:08
matter because we didn't do any investigations.
31:11
And then my last year, I'm like, I don't want
31:15
the responsibility of being president or co -president
31:19
or anything. I will take the role of doing lead
31:23
investigator stuff because at this point, I'm
31:27
the only person who has the know -how with. the
31:30
gear yeah and you gotta keep the gear right or
31:34
hold on to it yeah so that's that's probably
31:36
why i didn't feel like i was an investigator
31:38
because we didn't do that system at the time
31:40
where you held on to the gear so i didn't really
31:42
do anything except for show up to investigations
31:44
which i would have anyways and that also because
31:48
i i know you held on to the gears because you
31:51
would always bring to our investigations you
31:54
know that we would do in film you would bring
31:57
that Fucking Boo Bear. You had a Boo Bear? I
32:02
hate that guy. I hate that thing. That guy is
32:06
the worst. Boo Bear was fun. I love Boo Bear.
32:08
No, he's so annoying. Okay, but where was this
32:13
going? Like, you were going to talk about your
32:16
experience. Yeah, you didn't really talk about
32:20
your experience. I didn't talk about anything.
32:22
There was a mutual hatred for Boo Bear. We were
32:24
just reminiscing. I liked Boo Bear. You like
32:29
Boo -Bear? Yeah. Claire's annoying. He asks stupid
32:34
questions. Oh, well, you're not wrong about that.
32:40
Yeah, one time I heard Boo -Bear, actually. We
32:43
were going to have him on the podcast, but as
32:46
soon as I turn him on, I just hear, let's talk
32:48
about owls. And I said, stupid Boo -Bear. well
32:55
that would be a good thing that he could ask
32:58
maybe a little bit more interesting i'm kidding
33:02
okay um i guess my my point was um that i'm going
33:07
to refrain from talking about any early memories
33:09
just because i don't think they hold up in terms
33:11
of like they were impactful in the moment but
33:14
looking back how impactful were they you know
33:17
um so let's talk about recent impactful experiences
33:23
because At this point, we've done, like, a 180.
33:28
And I don't know about you guys, but it takes
33:31
a lot to, like, surprise me. Yeah. Like, in the
33:34
early days, there was, like, a lot of hyperbole
33:36
and, like, scariest cemetery we've ever been.
33:38
Scariest place we've ever been. Back in the days
33:41
for you guys, it'd be, like, the most normal
33:44
paranormal thing. That would be, like, very impactful
33:49
for you. But now it has to be, like, a life -or
33:52
-death situation for it to be a very big, impactful
33:55
thing. I wouldn't say that, but, like... It's
34:00
gotta be... I've had a couple more impactful
34:02
moments recently, but, like... Yeah. Yeah. I'm
34:08
gonna talk about... I think we've probably mentioned
34:11
this. Maybe. So if we have talked about this,
34:15
my apologies, but you're going to hear it again.
34:18
But we recently went to Madison Seminary this
34:24
past May. And Madison Seminary is one of, I can
34:31
count on one hand, I'll say, the amount of places
34:33
where I'm confident enough to say that anytime
34:38
we go there, we will have an impactful experience.
34:40
Simpson Hospital is one of them. Anytime we go
34:43
to Simpson, we're going to have something happen
34:45
that will be memorable. Might be for good reasons,
34:49
might be for bad reasons. Madison is another
34:51
one of those places. We've been investigated
34:53
three times. Each time, something has happened
34:57
that I didn't think would ever happen. And the
35:00
second time, we were there, and it was in the
35:04
morning. It was around 9 or 10 in the morning.
35:09
It was a freezing cold night. So we're all bunkered
35:11
up. Adam Kimmel, the owner, the greatest guy
35:14
in the world. He had a portable heater for us
35:17
that he set up in this, like the main entrance
35:21
room. And we just, yeah, go ahead. But I was
35:25
going to say, but it was a propane heater. You
35:27
couldn't keep on all the time. So you had to
35:29
turn it off once everything heated up for the
35:31
night. It was starting to smell in there. You
35:33
had to turn it off. and i don't i don't i don't
35:36
sleep during investigations these guys do so
35:38
i was kind of like just turning it on and off
35:39
all throughout like the few hours they were trying
35:42
to nap but you're you were squeezed on that little
35:45
um mattress thing i had on the floor with me
35:47
for a good like two hours yeah i was just staring
35:51
at the ceiling getting kind of antsy and then
35:52
i just got up and got you were sleeping sleeping
35:55
for a little bit i i blinked and i woke up and
35:58
i was like oh good 45 minutes passed 45 minutes
36:02
that's good um yeah but anyways but anyways yeah
36:05
after i was restless and just getting b -roll
36:09
everyone eventually woke up and this room was
36:11
just like the front entrance and we had our mattresses
36:14
we had this propane heater we had all of our
36:16
shit and our pizza boxes sprawled throughout
36:19
we weren't filming in this room this room wasn't
36:22
one of the haunted hot spots this was i mean
36:25
it very well could be no one really investigates
36:27
in there probably is probably is um and you know
36:33
we had all of our equipment charging up in there
36:35
so this was just where we would crash between
36:38
it was a safe space yeah between shoots we would
36:41
go out shoot on the second floor come back down
36:43
hang out while equipment charged and we were
36:46
literally hanging out here because we had just
36:48
woken up and uh our friend lizzie what being
36:53
lizzie the badass that she is she goes We just
36:57
woke up, but I want to do one last solo investigation
37:00
up in the attic. So we're like, okay, go do your
37:02
thing. So she went up and did a solo in the attic.
37:05
Did we play Jenga and that's how that was decided?
37:08
I think we did. But she wanted to go anyways.
37:10
Yeah, she wanted to go anyways. We do this thing
37:12
for the listeners where we play Jenga and it's
37:16
like color Jenga and each color is assigned to
37:19
a different room in the location and the loser
37:22
of the Jenga game has to do a solo in that spot.
37:27
Of the last block they tried to pull. Yeah, so
37:30
if you lose with a blue Jenga piece, whatever
37:34
the location is assigned and associated with
37:38
blue, you have to do a solo there. I somehow
37:41
lose every time. Except for this time. Except
37:45
for this time. Which I think she lost on purpose
37:47
because she really wanted to do a solo. Yeah,
37:49
she wanted to do a solo. She said, I want to
37:51
do a solo, and we're like, gotta play Jenga!
37:55
uh but anyway she did a solo and she comes down
37:58
and you know she's just like oh the camera died
38:02
um you know this camera died where do i plug
38:06
it in and then she's like i also don't know how
38:08
to turn this one off can you turn this one off
38:11
for me to then charge it you know too because
38:13
it's getting low battery so i'm like yeah here
38:15
let me show you how to turn it off right after
38:18
i turn the camera off Right after I tore the
38:23
fucking camera off for her to plug it in, she
38:27
starts walking away to plug both cameras into
38:31
the chargers. We hear the loudest woman talking.
38:37
It sounded like it was coming from an intercom.
38:41
Yeah, it sounded like an intercom. Yeah, so that's
38:44
a weird thing. It sounded like amplified. Didn't
38:50
sound like it was coming through a speaker, but
38:51
it sounded like electronic. But not like really
38:54
electronic. It just sounded a little electronic.
38:56
Like it was just amplified or something. It sounded
38:59
electronic -y, but wasn't coming from electronic.
39:04
Exactly. What was the voice? What did it say?
39:07
Yeah, so. It was like. Further into the tone,
39:11
we needed to establish this. It sounded like
39:13
an EVP. Yeah. You know, this is weird, but we.
39:19
comprehend EVPs differently than normal human
39:21
speech. So, like, on a recorder, if you hear
39:23
me say, what is your name? We hear that, and
39:26
we hear it as, what is your name? Then when we
39:29
hear a ghost talking, a spirit voice, we all
39:31
say, what did it say? Did it say this? Did it
39:33
say that? When this voice came through, sounded
39:36
like it was amplified through an intercom or
39:38
something, electronic, without being electronic,
39:41
we all looked at each other, what did that say?
39:43
We didn't hear it like normal speech, you know
39:45
what I mean? But... It sounded like it said,
39:51
Claire say, I'm here, and then something we couldn't
39:56
make out. I thought it said, she's coming. No,
39:59
no, it said, I'm here, and then I swear it said
40:02
after that, in the prism, it said, I'm here,
40:06
and then something we couldn't make out. Oh,
40:07
yes. You're debating what the second part said,
40:11
because we couldn't hear it well, because, I
40:13
mean, we heard planes can be, but it... We couldn't
40:16
comprehend it because it was like an EVP, electronic
40:19
without being electronic, amplified, and out
40:23
of nowhere. And we had nothing recording to be
40:25
able to re -listen to it. And then all of a sudden,
40:28
also, all of the cat balls on the table started
40:31
going off. Which were off. Which were not on.
40:34
They were off, yeah. And the EMF meters started
40:36
going nuts. They turned on by itself. Yeah. Yeah,
40:39
so the cat balls turned on and started going
40:42
off. EMF meters started going berserk. Every
40:44
device. we turned on spirit box and sort of tried
40:47
to record a session everything was going off
40:49
it was it was like a surge and it's the weirdest
40:54
i still can hear this voice in my head it didn't
40:58
make sense yeah and literally like within i think
41:03
it was even within two within a minute like one
41:05
in a minute yeah becca pulled up the driveway
41:08
so we ran out we're just like there is there
41:10
an intercom in this building like yeah Were you,
41:14
like, telling us that you're here or something?
41:16
Yeah, like, is there an intercom? That's kind
41:17
of what it seemed like. No. Yeah. Because that's
41:22
what we were thinking. We're like, oh, she just
41:24
rolled up. There must be an intercom. Maybe she
41:26
said, I'm here. Maybe we heard her in some way.
41:29
Maybe her car speaker connected to a Bluetooth
41:33
speaker in here somewhere. We were thinking of
41:35
everything. There isn't anything like that in
41:38
there. And I had Adam check the security camera
41:42
in there. was off completely off not doing anything
41:47
and doesn't even have a speaker option none of
41:50
the security cameras in the building have speaker
41:52
options none of the um point of sales uh you
41:56
know kind of tablets they had or anything because
41:59
they have everything in there in storage we looked
42:00
at the radio we opened every cabinet we could
42:04
find there was no electronics on Or anything
42:08
that could make that sound anyways. But it was
42:11
literally filled the room. Yeah. It sounded like
42:16
the loudest disembodied voice. Like a natural
42:18
person in the room. I'm here in the prism. Or
42:24
something like that. I'm here for sure, but whatever
42:29
was afterwards was a little questionable. In
42:31
the prism. That's what I got in the moment and
42:33
that's what makes sense in my head. we can't
42:36
replay this, but it sounded like we were replaying
42:38
an EVP over a big speaker or something. This
42:41
doesn't make sense. And I've heard disembodied
42:46
voices sometimes, a few times, but each time
42:50
I've heard a disembodied voice, it's been in
42:53
an open area. Like we'll be in a cemetery and
42:55
I'm like, wait, did you guys hear someone talking
42:58
on the other side of the cemetery? And like,
43:01
maybe we'll play back the audio and hear someone
43:03
talking. faintly on the other side of the cemetery
43:06
it's always on the video listen closely we recommend
43:10
putting in your headphones we hear what appears
43:13
to be someone talking could this be someone else
43:17
in the cemetery with us or did we just hear the
43:19
woman in white you know it's always like that
43:22
right that's how it always goes you know it's
43:26
always something on the other side of the cemetery
43:29
or we'll be in the woods wait guys i just heard
43:32
someone talking Turn off your flashlights. Wait,
43:35
there's no one here. That was weird. Never in
43:39
a building like this, in an enclosed room, in
43:43
broad daylight, there was the loudest voice.
43:46
And you could feel, I don't know how to describe
43:49
it, but you could feel, kind of like what Angela
43:51
was saying, it was electronic without being electronic.
43:54
It sounded amplified. I could feel it passing
43:57
through the airwaves. You could tell it was in
43:59
the room. Yeah, it was in the room. I don't know
44:01
how to describe it. I could tell the sound waves
44:04
were bouncing off the room. Something in the
44:06
room with us created that voice, except nothing
44:11
was in there to create that voice. Even if...
44:13
It didn't even sound like any of us. No. Even
44:17
if one of our phones in our hand played that
44:21
over speaker, we didn't even have a Bluetooth
44:22
speaker. We were not connected to any Bluetooth,
44:26
so it would have to come from our phones. Even
44:28
if our phones played that voice, it would sound...
44:30
way different in in terms of tone and also way
44:34
quieter how could a voice like that literally
44:36
fill a room sound amplified sound electronic
44:41
without being electronic not be easily comprehensible
44:45
put everyone in shock and confusion yeah i mean
44:50
that's how most evps are it's like you know you
44:53
listen yeah but the first part wasn't yeah i
44:55
know but the full the full voice was incomprehensible
44:59
like an evp like mostly yeah yeah yeah tend to
45:01
be it's like you know there's no new ep did it
45:04
say i want to kill wait what did the rest say
45:07
i want to kill who i want to kill what you know
45:10
you debate the rest of it forever and that's
45:12
exactly how this was so how does that happen
45:15
how does it fill a room how are we in the middle
45:17
of this happening you could feel the sound waves
45:19
bouncing How does this noise even get created,
45:22
even if it was a physical device creating it,
45:25
right? Even if it's just like, oh, I had that
45:26
queued up on my phone. You can't, how does it
45:28
even amplify and travel like that? Everything
45:31
about this was so confusing, confusing, didn't
45:33
make any sense. And honestly, it was the most
45:37
jarring paranormal moment. None of us were ready
45:42
for it. It was literally in the morning, in broad
45:45
daylight, as Becca, as Brie said, was coming
45:48
back just to be like, hey. How did the investigation
45:50
go? So it was at the very end. We were charging
45:53
our stuff if we wanted to do one last final thing.
45:56
And it was honestly, I think, I can say this
46:03
with confidence, I think, in eight years doing
46:07
this, this was the most unexplainable moment.
46:14
It was pretty unexplainable. Yeah, I would 100
46:17
% agree with that. yeah and that's especially
46:20
bold of a statement and i just made considering
46:25
that i didn't want to choose any impactful moments
46:28
in the first five years of ghost hunting because
46:30
everything was impactful back then but i can
46:32
say i can say with comment this was unexplainable
46:35
just because everything we've ever caught or
46:38
experienced there's the other side of the argument
46:42
right you can you can make a case for anything
46:44
i can't i can't even list one way This was either
46:49
a practical joke or it was a ghost. Like, there's
46:53
no in -between and that makes it impactful. Yeah,
47:00
such a crazy moment. I love Madison. I really
47:03
hope we get to go back there again sometime in
47:05
the future. Yeah, same. MadCon was weird. I mean,
47:10
we already talked about this, but we filmed something
47:12
at MadCon that's... Yeah. I say on camera, you'll
47:19
hear me say, been a long time since I've been
47:23
scared, but I was scared. Yeah. We were literally
47:27
there for the event at MadCon, and you went and
47:31
did your experiment and had some things happen,
47:36
and then we went up to get some footage. We were
47:40
upstairs for literally, what was it, five minutes,
47:42
and I had... a crazy experience there. Like,
47:47
that place is just so full of energy and just,
47:52
I love Madison. Can't wait to go back. Actually,
47:56
that was another experience you had where you
47:57
were engulfed in shadow. Yeah, you were engulfed
48:01
in the shadow there. Even I could say that. I
48:05
saw it as plain as day. It got so dark around
48:08
you. It was so weird. You couldn't see the outline
48:12
of the red exit sign or anything. It totally
48:16
just turned black. You were stranded right in
48:19
the threshold of that hallway that turned into
48:22
an asylum area. Yeah, that was weird. Is this
48:26
an indicator? Should I say something about this
48:30
experience now or say it for a different day?
48:32
Yeah, you can talk about this experience here.
48:34
Okay. Well, so we went upstairs to get some B
48:38
-roll footage, whatever. Like we said, it was
48:41
only for five seconds. The event was done. Like
48:44
the VIP thing was starting, which we were not
48:46
a part of. So we're just like, we're going to
48:48
do this real quick while nobody's up here and
48:50
then leave. So we had a camera set up in a different
48:54
room. We went and checked out the hallway. in
48:57
the attic which always has some sort of vibe
49:00
to it i've talked to other investigators and
49:02
they're like yeah there's always something hanging
49:04
out in that hallway well you go down you turn
49:07
to the left and there's a longer part of the
49:09
hallway i started walking down it and i'm like
49:11
okay i'm learning to trust my instincts and feel
49:17
my surroundings more i'm like okay it feels weird
49:19
down here keep walking feeling starts getting
49:22
stronger and i go farther and then that feeling
49:26
disappears i'm like okay so there's something
49:27
in between the end of the hall and the beginning
49:30
of the hall so i'm like checking the rooms and
49:32
then i get to this one i think it was room 186
49:35
and i walk in and i'm like oh there's something
49:40
in this room like it just felt thick it felt
49:43
icky like it was just it felt stagnant and and
49:50
was it was it cold and dark as well it was not
49:53
cold and dark It was actually bright and sunny.
49:57
Yeah, except when that shadow came over you.
49:59
So anyways, I'm getting there. And I said to
50:03
you guys, I'm like, oh, hey, come check out this
50:05
room. It feels weird in here. And both of you
50:07
were like, yeah, it feels a little off. Anyways,
50:11
and we moved on. I walked out of the room. It
50:14
felt like a tingling on my elbow. So I pulled
50:17
down my sleeve, took out my phone flashlight,
50:19
checking my elbow. Nothing there. Turn off my
50:23
phone stuck in my pocket and Ben had noticed
50:25
me doing that. I'm like, I don't know. I felt
50:28
like my elbow was tingling. Went to go pull out
50:31
my phone flashlight to show him again because
50:32
maybe I missed something because it's my elbow.
50:34
I can't see my elbow. And all of a sudden I felt
50:37
a tingling on my leg. And I reached down to grab
50:41
and pull at my pant leg and try to shine my phone
50:44
flashlight on it. Phone does not turn on. I literally
50:48
just had it on. It was at like 50%. will not
50:52
turn on finally turns on suddenly can turn on
50:57
the flashlight and there's two lines on my leg
50:59
did i cause them myself potentially i don't know
51:04
but i'm like okay that's weird i think i'm let's
51:08
we're done recording the other place let's go
51:11
ahead and leave and i'm standing there in the
51:14
threshold of like the hallway to the full attic
51:17
and i'm like explaining to the camera like what
51:19
just happened And all of a sudden, I can see
51:22
the outline of the door turn dark. Like, it just
51:28
suddenly got enveloped in darkness. Like, something
51:31
walked up behind me. And I'm like, okay, we need
51:36
to leave. Because something is pushing us out.
51:40
We are not supposed to be here anymore. It is
51:42
past the time we're supposed to be here. We need
51:44
to go. And that was it. I'm like, okay, we're
51:47
done. Goodbye. Thank you for showing your presence.
51:50
we out i will i remember that specifically because
51:53
that whole hallway area behind you turned like
51:56
really really dark and it kind of like swallowed
51:59
you because you were like the same color you
52:01
weren't darker at all it's the area around it
52:03
was the area around me yeah turned dark and i
52:06
think i could really see that yeah at first i
52:09
was like oh clouds going over that's why it's
52:12
getting darker but i looked around at the open
52:14
attic area and it was just as bright as it was
52:17
it was sunny nothing it was just that area around
52:22
you in the hallway and i'm like oh that's really
52:24
weird especially with that feeling we just had
52:27
it's funny i literally told this experience to
52:31
someone at stimson a couple days ago when we
52:33
had the um parafest and i was telling them about
52:37
that experience and they're like oh room 186
52:39
and i'm like wait i'm like yeah No, because I
52:44
was right next to you when you were talking about
52:47
it. Really? Yeah, it was really funny. Who was
52:54
this at the ParaFest? Amanda. That makes sense.
52:59
Hi, Amanda! If you're listening, hi. That makes
53:04
a lot of sense. It was definitely an interesting
53:07
experience and one of the reasons why Madison
53:10
is also on the top of my list. right there along
53:13
Stimson. What would be your number three if you
53:16
were to round out your top three? Top three?
53:22
Yeah, that's really hard what number three would
53:26
be. I feel like just because we've done so much
53:30
there and I have had a lot of experiences there,
53:34
I would say Oak Hill, Cemetery, Rosevere combined
53:38
because they technically are one. Like, you can't
53:41
talk about one without talking about the other.
53:43
That's fair, yeah. So we have the same top three.
53:47
Okay. I feel like our four and five would...
53:50
Wait, what's your third? Madison? Oh, Madison,
53:52
Stimson, and... Rosevere Park, Oakville Cemetery.
53:57
I feel like Parashini's probably number four.
54:02
I wouldn't even know what mine are. I didn't
54:05
do as many as you guys because I haven't known
54:07
you guys. As long as you guys have known each
54:10
other. But I would definitely say Madison. And
54:15
I would... I don't know. Honestly, for me, I
54:20
would say Piercini. Yeah. Well, what's an impactful
54:25
moment for you, Angela? I don't know. You don't
54:30
have any? I know I have some. I just can't think
54:33
of anything really off the top of my head. You're
54:36
allowed to share now. You just couldn't go first.
54:39
An impactful moment. I could talk about different
54:50
experiences all day. I can't really go into it
54:54
because it'd be really long, but the whole thing
54:56
around when Dweller was happening, it was a very
55:00
impactful... paranormal moment things that I
55:04
mean that played out throughout like a whole
55:06
year but like yeah maybe that's very specific
55:11
thing Maybe that's best saved then for if we
55:16
ever loop back around to Dweller, maybe on the
55:18
anniversary of the Midwest Weird Fest, we'll
55:22
do a deep dive into it. Because we need to talk
55:24
about at some point all the madness that occurred
55:27
at the Midwest Weird Fest, the car crash, all
55:29
that stuff in more detail. And everything around
55:32
that time frame. Yeah, so maybe we'll save that
55:34
one. Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to really go
55:36
in depth about it, but it's just... all those
55:39
like weird synchronicities oh another thing too
55:43
it's like again we can't really i mean it kind
55:45
of ties in with the whole dweller thing too in
55:48
a way but i mean we're probably never going to
55:51
go into depth about this but the whole synchronicities
55:54
that would that happen at madison too that one
55:57
time how it tied in with things that happened
56:01
like two years ago and i for you guys and it's
56:04
just I'm like, holy shit, that's crazy to me.
56:07
That's another impactful moment. But again, we
56:11
can't talk about it. We can't go into it now
56:13
because that details so many transcripts that
56:16
I'd need to pull up and stuff. So it will take
56:19
so long to go through the transcripts. But soon
56:23
we should put that on the docket too. I feel
56:24
like we've been talking so much about Madison
56:26
now though. Maybe we can have this be the new
56:29
possession tape. Sometime soon we'll release
56:32
the Madison transcripts. Or something. I don't
56:35
know. We don't have anything new to release.
56:38
Yeah. This will be something we're holding over
56:41
your heads, ladies and gentlemen. We have all
56:44
these incredible transcripts that have some eerie
56:46
synchronicities and connections that span two
56:49
years. It's a lot of words and a lot of stuff
56:52
to condense and put into a doc. But if I'm motivated
56:56
enough, maybe one day. You're motivated enough.
57:00
If I'm motivated. The last thing I want to do
57:03
when I clock out of work is like, oh, let's dig
57:06
through two years worth of transcripts. Yeah.
57:08
I'm just, I'm just saying all that low. It's,
57:11
it's like, oh, that can't be no coincidence.
57:15
Like that played into a bigger meaning into this
57:19
world. And I don't know how to describe it. But
57:24
it. really kind of changed my life in a way if
57:28
as how I view the paranormal and that like getting
57:32
into things that you shouldn't be getting into
57:35
and how that can impact your life in the daily
57:39
I will say one of the recurring symbols or motifs
57:43
if you will throughout these sessions that I
57:45
can remember without referencing these transcripts
57:47
I haven't looked at this since like April or
57:50
May of you know this past year but even still
57:55
The recurring theme of two crows. Two crows kept
57:59
coming through. So if there's any listeners out
58:02
there that might know what the two crows might
58:05
symbolize or represent. Two crows specifically.
58:08
It can be another topic we talk about. Crows?
58:12
Specifically two crows. Maybe put some padding
58:15
between owls and crows. Like I said, this isn't
58:19
a zoo. But animals have such a big thing with,
58:24
like, paranormal. I know, I know. I did also
58:26
send you, did you guys appreciate that Facebook
58:28
video I sent you yesterday about... What was
58:32
it? Okay, it went like this, speaking of the
58:34
crows. It went, head, shoulders, knees, and crows.
58:38
Knees and crows. Head, shoulders, knees, and
58:42
crows. Knees and crows! I did not see this. Wait,
58:46
let me play it really quick. No, please don't.
58:49
We're going to get flagged for copyright. Please
58:51
don't play the song. You can't play music on
58:53
this. That sucks. I did a really good impersonation.
58:58
It goes head, shoulders, knees, and crows. Your
59:01
crows could sound more like a crow. How so? Head,
59:08
shoulders, knees, and crows. Knees and crows.
59:14
Oh my gosh. Alright, we're gonna wrap this up
59:16
because I think I need to perform an exorcism
59:18
on, uh, a late night exorcism on Angela here.
59:22
She's been taken over by the crows and the owls.
59:25
You know she's got crow's disease. I'm taken
59:26
over by birds. What? You got the crow's disease.
59:30
The crow's disease. That's funny. Crows! Crows!
59:37
Oh no, it's contagious. Guys, I think we need
59:42
a quarantine. I told Ben how it really sounded,
59:46
and now he's obsessed with actually making the
59:48
right sound. Head, shoulders, knees, and claws!
59:52
Exactly. Claws! Maybe I should leave before I
59:56
catch it, too. It's already headed up that way.
1:00:00
Oh, no. A whole town body got wiped out from
1:00:02
diphtheria, and you're already feeling stale
1:00:04
and stagnant shadows in Madison, Ohio. You might
1:00:07
have a case of the claws! Claws! Happy Halloween,
1:00:13
everybody. Happy Halloween. Stay spooky. Gross!
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