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Are the consequences commensurate with the crimes? · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Helping to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.
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  This is the Constitution Study on the America Out Loud Network with your host, Paul Engel.
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  Scandals are nothing new.
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  Of course, when it involves politics, it tends to get a lot more attention.
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  Sometimes the consequences are actually worthy of the scandal itself.
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  Hello there, everyday Americans, Paul Engel here with the Constitution Study, where we read instead of the Constitution, teacher action generation to be free.
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  Glad you could join me today.
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  You know, very often I find that scandals reporting is more a political gotcha, right?
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  You know, it's like, okay, one political party is in power, they're going after their opponents, and the scandals are more about politics than anything else.
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  So when I heard that the FBI raided uh the office, the district office of a state senator out of Virginia, who happened to be a Democrat, well, my first thought was party politics.
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  Senator Eloise Lucas is a longtime figure in Virginia politics.
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  She's also the Senate president pro-tempore.
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  And uh, so she actually played a rather prominent role in the state's recent congressional redistricting efforts.
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  So when I heard that her office had been raided, I'm like, well, okay, let me check it out.
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  But I kind of had this uh hunch.
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  Then I found out that she also had a nearby cannabis dispensary that she co-owns was rated as well.
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  Of course, there were warrants, okay, there were warrants.
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  That's that's good news.
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  But when what's described as a SWAT-style team with an armored vehicle shows up at a legislative office, that itself could be the scandal.
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  You know, okay, this this the cannabis outlet maybe, but the the legislative offices.
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  Now, as I understand it, the the raid on the cannabis dispensary had to do with allegations that uh several of their products exceeded the legal THC thresholds for the state of Virginia.
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  Okay.
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  Now, apparently there are rumors of corruption in pay-to-pay politics.
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  Pay to play and politics?
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  Inconceivable.
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  But these have long apparently surrounded the Democratic Party infrastructure in Virginia.
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  Uh, by the way, not just Democrats and not just Virginia, but that's what this is one about.
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  And uh, according to a Virginia state delegate, um, who, by the way, was opposed to the redistricting plan.
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  Uh, these rumors are, well, they're being they need to hold people accountable for, well, actual violations, not just just rumors and allegations.
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  Now, this delegate of Ren Williams said everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but it takes a federal judge to issue a search warrant to the FBI.
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  When the chief of police and prosecutor tried to hold Senator Lucas accountable for her actions last time, each were removed from office shortly thereafter.
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  Sunlight is the best cure for corruption.
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  I'm sure the Commonwealth of Virginia will be very interested to see what comes of this investigation.
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  Okay, now we're seeing a little bit of well, maybe what's going on here.
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  In other words, this is not the first investigation into Senator Lucas, but when it was done by local authorities, chief of police is a city official, uh, process.
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  I'm assuming the prosecutor was a city uh prosecutor.
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  Um, okay, they were each removed from office.
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  Now it's being dealt with at the federal.
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  Does that mean, you know, where there's smoke, there's fire?
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  Not necessarily.
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  But now this becomes to me a bit more interesting.
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  Now, I still have to ask, right?
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  She is.
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  She is innocent until proven guilty.
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  These are allegations.
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  And as we've seen throughout the recent years, you can make an allegation against anyone for anything with frequently little if any proof.
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  Just because they had enough probable cause, they they swore they had probable cause to issue a federal search warrant, doesn't really say much to me, right?
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  Because let's face it, um, we see more and more evidence of search warrants being issued on, well, let's just say the flimsiest of probable cause, at least in my point of view.
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  Because let's face it, this the the people that are going yay, yay, yay about this today, were probably the same ones that were not happy with the search warrant that was uh uh executed against Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate.
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  In other words, they look at it from a party politic, which to me is its own form of corruption.
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  If you complain when it's your guy and you you cheer when it's the other guy, that to me is its own form of corruption.
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  Now, she gets her day in court.
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  These are these are searches.
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  I don't think she's been charged with anything yet.
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  Um, so okay, we need, and this is why it's important to have the day and the consequences must match.
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  She has her right to an adversarial situation where she can confront her accuser, she can compel witnesses in our favor.
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  This is necessary so that we make sure that a the scandal is real, and B, that the consequences meet the scandal, which is another problem.
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  You know, there's a lot of reasons why there are a lot of lawyer jokes, and there's a lot of reasons why people don't trust our legal system.
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  Sometimes it's the scandal, right?
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  I I talked previously about uh an ATF raid that to me was really truly botched.
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  Um, they they didn't properly announce themselves.
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  They instigated a firefight, not by shooting first, but by scaring the pants off of the homeowner, right?
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  Because by breaking in without properly announcing themselves.
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  That's that's a whole other issue.
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  I'm working on an article involving a Supreme Court case where uh the attorney general of New Jersey basically demonstrated that the uh this was the previous uh attorney general, um Matthew Plotkin had a vendetta against pro-life organizations issuing subpoenas for investigation without any probable cause.
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  I mean, this is the craziness.
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  But the flip side is you have to have the consequences.
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  Uh for example, remember the the the uh Minnesota fraud we talked about, the the Medicaid fraud cases.
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  Well, a defendant in one of the largest of those individual fraud cases looks like he's getting quite a sweetheart deal from state prosecutors.
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  Getting quite a sweetheart deal from state prosecutors.
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  Uh Saeed Awil Iberham is an immigrant from Somalia.
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  Saeed Awil Ibrahim is an immigrant from Somalia.
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  He pled guilty back on May 1st to nearly 11 million dollar fraud case.
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  He pled guilty back on May 1st to nearly 11 million dollar fraud case.
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  All right.
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  All right, this is prosecuted by the Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison.
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  This is prosecuted by the Minnesota Attorney General, Keith Ellison.
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  Not exactly known for his um fair and unbiased attempts to uh enforce the law.
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  Not exactly known for his um fair and unbiased attempts to uh enforce the law.
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  Now, under the terms of the agreement.
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  Under the terms of the agreement, uh Mr.
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  Eben will receive uh five years supervised probation, and uh his 150 day jail census sense has been stayed.
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  Now, he he all he has to do is basically cooperate with investigators to track down his co-defendant, Abdurasaid Ismail Saeed, um, and uh that that is believed he's believed to have fled to Kenya after missing his court appearance, and he gets to walk free.
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  Now, do you think that is a consequence that is equivalent to the crime he pled guilty to?
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  And this to me is is one of the concerns I see is we end up so focused on the conviction rather than the justice that uh, well, let's face it, prosecutors are willing to come up with an unjust sentence in order to gain the conviction.
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  And to me, that's its own scandal.
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  And not just in the prosecutor's office, but in the of the people of the United States who continue to, in some cases, elect, some cases elect people who appoint and support these prosecutors simply because they got a conviction, whether or not they believe the um the consequences of the crime are just.
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  And that to me is an interesting discussion.
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  It's an interesting question.
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  I mean, let's face it, if you or I uh pled guilty to an 11 million dollar fraud, what are the odds that we would get such a sweetheart deal?
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  I don't know.
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  Kind of depends on your location.
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  I'm not blaming entirely Keith Ellison, although I'm sure he had a hand in this since, well, he was the one actually prosecuting the case, but it's also this uh the this the system we've created where uh again the focus is on convictions, not justice, where the victims often end up victimized twice because while they may or may not have a conviction, very often the consequences of the guilty are not commensurate with the the crime they are alleged to have committed.
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  Now, I don't know the conditions of uh Mr.
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  Abraham's uh uh supervised probation.
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  You know, I'm assuming he has to meet with a probation officer every so often.
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  He may not have to, he may have to wear a tracking device.
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  You know, this is not exactly, I would say probably not exactly enough completely scot-free, but it certainly seems like not a very hefty punishment.
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  I mean, let's face it.
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  If he got 11 million dollars, uh, did he have to return the 11 million dollars?
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  That'd be an interesting question to me.
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  What if he spent a few million of that?
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  What if he only had six or seven million dollars left?
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  There's where's the in other where's the justice in this?
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  He defrauded the the Minnesota and the United States of 11 million dollars.
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  I would think justice would be to repay that, and then maybe um a little extra as a penalty for his crime.
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  That seems to me, but then again, I wasn't in the negotiations.
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  I don't know what evidence Mr.
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  Ellison had, I don't know what the fence Mr.
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  Ibrahim has, I don't know the details.
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  So I'm I don't want to to simply assume I know all these information.
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  But again, it's frustrating from a citizen's point of view.
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  You know, someone uh uh uh rips off a state in the United States for millions of dollars and um gets away again.
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  Did he even have to return the money?
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  See, I used to we used to have a justice system where we looked for just outcomes.
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  I think the justice system is a bit of a myth.
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  We don't have a justice system.
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  What we have is just a system, and sometimes that system stumbles into justice.
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  I mean, let's face it, a blind squirrel finds a nut every so often.
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  But I think far too often justice, the justice they seek is not so much justice as looking okay, of encouraging a political move, uh, of having good numbers that don't mean anything.
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  Now, I don't know about you, but that sounds to me like a problem.
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  Now, I'll admit this doesn't this isn't a violent crime.
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  So I don't know that prison time is the proper punishment, right?
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  Again, I don't know all the details.
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  I'm trying to be fair about this.
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  But um, yeah, I'm I'm not entirely sure that the consequences for the conviction of the scandal are actually just.
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  Well, an unjust punishment, right?
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  We we have to remember innocent until proven guilty.
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  Uh people have their day in court.
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  I'm just not sure that this guy's day in court fulfilled the the needs of justice.
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  Then again, like I said, I don't know all the answers.
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  I don't have all the the answers to that.
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  And I'm sure there are people that'll agree with me.
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  So there are people that will disagree with me.
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  Um, but uh, I I think if we're going to have a justice system, I always say it's not the laws that prevent bad behavior, it's the enforcement of the laws.
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  And if you can commit an 11 million dollar fraud with nothing more than a basic slap on the wrist, well, where's the deterrence for this person or others to not commit similar fraud?
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  If all they're going to do is, oh, okay, you know, you have to spend some time on an ankle monitor, you're not going to do any jail time, you're not going to pay any penalties, you're not going to be forced to return the money, which maybe he does.
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  I don't have access to the uh to the plea agreement.
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  Um, again, why would they not do this again in the future?
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  Now, I've got some other scandals we're going to look at, some of which may not be the scandals that you were thinking of.
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  And you know, sometimes it takes a while for the scandals to come to light, and sometimes even for the consequences to be followed up on.
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  For example, you know, I have been a second amendment advocate pretty much my entire adult life.
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  I've grew up around guns, I've seen them used safely, I've seen them use dangerously.
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  But this idea that the Constitution protects our right to keep their arms is important.
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  And I've seen way too many instances where, well, you know my saying, right?
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  There's three types of lies, lies, darn lies, and statistics.
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  The idea that that you use a statistic not to find the truth, but to promote an agenda.
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  That you use a statistic not to find the truth but to promote an agenda.
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  And one of the things we found over the years is that well not that long ago, we found that uh, well, different police departments have not been reporting their crime stats correctly in order to uh generally to make politicians look good.
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  And one of the things we found over the years is that well not that long ago, we found that uh, well, different police departments have not been reporting their crime stats correctly in order to uh join to make politicians look good.
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  One of those places where that happened was Washington, DC.
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  One of those places where that happened was Washington, DC.
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  Um, they we found that we there was reports that they.
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  Um, they we found that we there was reports that they had uh, well, cooked the books.
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  They weren't alone, but um, they were certainly one of the more notable.
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  Now, of course, Mayor Bowser claimed, oh no, no, this was this manipulation of crime, it was just it was one precinct, it was it was isolated.
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  It you know, don't nothing to see here.
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  There's just a little bit of well, if you know my if you know my stories, dog poop and the and the brownie.
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  Except that's not true.
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  Interim police chief Jeffrey Carroll announced about a week or so ago that 13 offices, officers have been placed on administrative leave in connection with an internal investigation into how the department keeps their crime statistics.
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  A subject, by the way, that's been looked at by both Congress and the U.S.
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  Attorney's Office.
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  Why?
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  Because DC is a federal district, it's a federal city.
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  It comes under the legislative power of the Congress, not of its own uh legislative body.
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  Now, there's another interesting twist to this, because of those 13 that have been put on administrative leave, everyone is ranked captain or higher.
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  Multiple cabs are reportedly among those who were served with termination papers in addition to uh um you know other punishments.
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  Commanders, even an assistant chiefs, two of them, have been included in this.
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  Now, why is that important?
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  Well, yeah, it's a scandal.
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  It's a scandal that police departments have been cooking the books to make their leaders look good.
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  Now, I think a lot of this, not this specific instance, but I remember back in the was it uh in the in the mid-90s, I think it was early to mid-90s, when Rudy Giuliani came to be mayor of New York and he instituted um what he used to call, I think they call stat StratCom.
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  And the whole idea was that different police captains were required to show up with actual data about crime in their precinct and what they were doing to deal with that crime.
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  And we were being driven by numbers.
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  And of course, in order for that to work, you had to drive it by good numbers.
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  But of course, there was always the question would would a captain cook the books to make their numbers look better?
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  Now, I I wouldn't be surprised if that has happened.
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  I'm not aware of any specific examples, but now we have examples in cities across the country where they have been found cooking the books, either to make the politicians look better, to make the the offices and departments look better, either to get more money or not to be called out for their lax enforcement.
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  I don't know.
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  But to see in the in the nation's capital, 13 officers of the rank of captain or higher being put on administrative leave up for this investigation.
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  Now, again, they've been put on leave for an investigation, they haven't been charged with a crime, they haven't been found guilty, but there's quite a scandal to this crime crime manipulation, this manipulation of the stats.
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  Now you may say, well, Paul, you know, I don't live in DC.
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  So what does it really matter to me?
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  Well, those numbers were used to implement policies to regulate people who own guns to push to infringe on their rights.
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  Because, well, you know, the crime problem is not, we don't have crime problems here.
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  It's it's always somewhere else.
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  Um statistics.
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  In this case, it wasn't that the statistics were used, it's that they were abused, that they were made up.
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  They were lies, and those lies impacted more than just the nation's capital.
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  And it was part of a of a movement to deprive people of a right protected by the Constitution of the United States.
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  That to me is an important thing.
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  Now, it's taken some time.
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  Now we have the reports of uh some actions being taken.
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  And of course, there's going to be more investigations and someone's gonna f people filing reports, hopefully not just in DC, but in other places where these these cooked books were found.
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  And the people who committed these actions, well, hopefully they will suffer serious consequences.
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  But that's only going to happen if we the people demand that the people who represent us hold the hold the people accountable that are found to be guilty.
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  Now, again, DC is a federal district.
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  That means it's Congress, it's the U.S.
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  Department of Justice.
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  We have to be making sure that our representatives saying, listen, if they cook the books, we need them appropriately punished.
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  It shouldn't be a vendetta, but there should be appropriate consequences for those types of actions.
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  Now, it doesn't always happen, right?
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  We're gonna wait, we're gonna have to see, but it's gonna be up to we the people to make sure that that others are held accountable.
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  Now, sometimes it's not law enforcement, sometimes it's not the government that holds people accountable.
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  And sometimes we had to be the ones that stand up and do this.
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  Garland uh Texas police department reported that at 3 30 p.m.
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  the previous Sunday, officers responded to a uh a traffic collision involving a car that hit two other vehicles.
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  Now, according to officers, um, a gentleman by the name of, well, not gentlemen, a person, a dude by the name of Jose Ramirez, um, parked their neighbor gas station and was allegedly attempting to take several vehicles by force.
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  He then ran across the road to a convenience store parking lot where he attempted to forcefully take the car of a father with his children in the car.
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  Surveillance video shows Ramirez yanking the father out of the driver's side of the car, and forcefully trying to get inside.
• 27:44
  A small child was seen running from the backseat as the family scrambled to escape.
• 27:50
  Now, Ramirez got in the driver's side car, closed the door, and was sitting there as the father opened fire and shot from the passenger side.
• 28:00
  Your side.
• 28:01
  Now, Ramirez was injured.
• 28:01
  Now, Ramirez was injured.
• 28:02
  He was taken to the hospital where he was pronounced dead, according to authorities.
• 28:02
  He was taken to the hospital where he was pronounced dead, according to authorities.
• 28:07
  No other injuries were reported.
• 28:07
  No other injuries were reported.
• 28:09
  Now, officials say the father stayed with the vehicle, that he was cooperative with investigators, and that no charges were filed against him.
• 28:09
  Now, officials say the father stayed with the vehicle, that he was cooperative with investigators, and that no charges were filed against him.
• 28:18
  Now, here's the things get I want to stop and consider what's going on here.
• 28:18
  Now, here's the things get I want to stop and consider what's going on here.
• 28:22
  So I'm sure somebody out there, maybe not in this program, somebody out there is gonna complain.
• 28:22
  So I'm sure somebody out there, maybe not in this program, somebody out there is going to complain.
• 28:29
  Ramirez.
• 28:29
  Ramirez was unarmed.
• 28:32
  Well, understand the law in all 50 states is that if there is a reasonable threat of imminent death or serious bodily injury, that is the trigger for the use of lethal force.
• 28:44
  It doesn't mean if you've got a gun and he's got a knife, that's not fair.
• 28:48
  This gentleman was using force.
• 28:50
  There was evidence of using force.
• 28:54
  According to uh police lieutenant uh uh Barino, I think is how it's pronounced.
• 29:00
  He said the shooting seemed to be in self-defense, and it all kind of happened really fast.
• 29:06
  But they pointed out Mr.
• 29:08
  Ramirez was using force, violence, and the father had no way of knowing whether or not he had a weapon.
• 29:16
  Now, he issued the consequences to Mr.
• 29:20
  Ramirez's illegal act.
• 29:23
  See, as soon as he started trying to rip off cars, he forfeited some of his rights, right?
• 29:30
  When he used violence, he forfeited his rights.
• 29:36
  That's you know, the the father was a legal con le was with the logical consequence.
• 29:41
  You know, if you're going to throw grab people and toss them out of cars, sooner or later you're going to find someone, especially in Texas, who's armed who's going to fight back.
• 29:51
  And though there's no requirement for this to be a fair fight.
• 29:56
  Mr.
• 29:56
  Dramirez gave up fair when he um when he attacked this family in their car.
• 30:04
  I'm just glad the father was there to protect him his family, and that uh the kids and the family walked away with no injuries.
• 30:14
  But that was the consequence of a decision.
• 30:17
  What's the scandal?
• 30:18
  Now, let me back up because there's one point I didn't mention.
• 30:23
  See, the local Fox station, when they heard about this story, uh, they reached out to guess who?
• 30:30
  The Department of Homeland Security and Immigration and Custom Enforcement.
• 30:35
  They wanted to know Mr.
• 30:36
  Ramirez's immigration history.
• 30:40
  And apparently uh Mr.
• 30:42
  Ramirez was an illegal immigrant.
• 30:45
  Now, does the fact that he's a illegal immigrant mean that's the cause of this crime?
• 30:50
  No.
• 30:50
  This is a man who decided he was going to steal people's cars, that he was going to endanger their family members.
• 30:58
  And he encountered somebody who was prepared to fight back.
• 31:02
  And that's my point.
• 31:04
  Sometimes you can't wait for the government, in the this case, the form of police officers to issue the consequences.
• 31:13
  It's our responsibility to defend ourselves.
• 31:15
  It's our responsibility to defend our families.
• 31:18
  That's my job.
• 31:20
  Yes, government can help.
• 31:21
  All right.
• 31:22
  I'll I can call 911 and ask for help, but the first responsibility to protect my family is me.
• 31:30
  So I'm I am thankful.
• 31:32
  I thank God that no one else was injured.
• 31:35
  And while it's sad that Mr.
• 31:37
  Mariah Ramirez is dead, this seems to be the last in a series of really bad choices he made.
• 31:45
  You could say his own personal scandals that led to this consequence that well, it's pretty much the ultimate consequence.
• 31:54
  And I guess that's part of the thing is as we're looking at this, you know, we've gotten in the habit of expecting government to issue all the consequences.
• 32:03
  Sure, you know, government scandals get a lot of attention, but private scandals, we look to the government to take care of the problem.
• 32:10
  Well, what happens when the government is the one cooking the books about the problem?
• 32:14
  Or as I like to say, when seconds matter, police are minutes away.
• 32:19
  What do we do then?
• 32:22
  Sometimes we have to be the one that issue the consequences.
• 32:26
  I hope never have to do this, but I'm prepared if I have to.
• 32:31
  What about you?
• 32:33
  Let's take the shooting out of this.
• 32:35
  What if this is a fire or someone gets injured?
• 32:40
  You know, several years ago, my wife and I were driving to a doctor's appointment when uh we were rear-ended in traffic, right?
• 32:47
  We were stopped at a light.
• 32:48
  Somebody rear-ended the car behind us, drove that car into us.
• 32:52
  We were not injured.
• 32:53
  The lady driving the car behind us had minor injuries.
• 32:59
  Well, you know, her she hit her face, right?
• 33:02
  Now, I had trained in both first aid and trauma.
• 33:08
  So when I walked up and I saw her bleeding, I'd already prepared.
• 33:13
  Well, okay, I know what to do next.
• 33:14
  I know how to help calm her down, help see if the bleeding is is severe or not.
• 33:19
  Keep it under control, make sure that someone's calling 911.
• 33:23
  We get ambulances, not just police, ambulances.
• 33:26
  It's that proper preparation that helps us make sure the consequences work out for the best.
• 33:32
  Like I said, she wasn't seriously injured.
• 33:34
  I think she lost a tooth or two.
• 33:36
  Um, and that's good.
• 33:39
  But the point is, at least one of us was prepared if the injuries were more severe to deal with them.
• 33:44
  So I recommend people, you're not just take basic first aid training.
• 33:48
  First aid trading is good.
• 33:49
  Uh CPR training is good, but I like trauma training as well, because sometimes you come up in a situation that you are no party of, but people are in trouble.
• 34:00
  And it's it's um it's it's kind of your job to uh or it's I maybe not a job, maybe it's your the opportunity to stand up and do what is right.
• 34:10
  And if you're not prepared, well then you won't be able to stand up, whether it's defending your family against uh uh a carjacker or assisting someone in need in a traffic accident.
• 34:23
  It could be simple as someone injured in your home.
• 34:27
  Sometimes the the consequences of the scandal are not, you know, what we think of.
• 34:32
  It's not, you know, corporate greed or or government abuse.
• 34:37
  Sometimes it's just dealing with everyday life.
• 34:40
  And maybe we should be prepared to uh to provide those consequences while we wait for government backup.
• 34:48
  Now, I've got a couple things to come up because again, not always well, I consider them scandals, situations where people in government take action and never consider the consequences of those.
• 35:00
  Consequences of those.
• 35:01
  But before I go there, I I have to take another break.
• 35:01
  But before I go there, I have to take another break.
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• 35:05
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• 35:11
  They're trying to make sure that this father did not have the means to defend himself and his family.
• 35:11
  They're trying to make sure that this father would not have the means to defend himself and his family.
• 35:17
  That that don't want me to be able to defend my home.
• 35:17
  That don't want me to be able to defend my home.
• 35:21
  And they're getting a lot of funding from well, probably businesses you do business with every day.
• 35:21
  And they're getting a lot of funding from well, probably businesses you do business with every day, corporations that uh you do business with.
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• 39:28
  Today we're going to talk about well, scandal and consequences.
• 39:31
  Sometimes, well, sometimes it's not quite what you were expecting.
• 39:36
  For example, there have been plenty of governments around the world that look at uh the fact that children have access to content they really shouldn't in their mind.
• 39:45
  And well, I guess they don't believe the parents are doing the right job, so they put in laws to infringe on people's rights all in the name of saving the children.
• 39:54
  Of course, one of the latest ones is this age verification requirement.
• 39:58
  Listen, I understand.
• 39:59
  I spent 30 years in IT.
• 40:01
  I know just what trash you can find on the internet.
• 40:04
  And um, that's kind of why I made a point of securing my network before I let my daughter on the internet.
• 40:11
  I know not everybody has the skills that I do, but there are tools where we can do it.
• 40:15
  But government thinks they know better than everybody else.
• 40:18
  And as I've pointed out in attempts in the US to implement such age verification, is that all it takes is a little bit of work to get around it.
• 40:27
  And then this story comes up.
• 40:29
  Now, granted, this came out of the UK, but it's kind of similar to what they've been doing here in the United States.
• 40:35
  So a a new report has come out from an entity called Internet Matters, and it reveals that more than one-third of children in the UK have already figured out how to get around the safeguards in the online safety act.
• 40:51
  In other words, one out of three children have already figured out how to bypass all the security that was used to infringe on people's rights, all in the name of protecting the children.
• 41:02
  Well, sometimes they enter a fake birthday or they borrow a login from somebody else.
• 41:07
  But there's one technique that's been found that, well, I don't know.
• 41:12
  What can you say?
• 41:14
  They found out that by drawing fake mustaches on their face, they can fool the age estimation software that some of these sites are using.
• 41:26
  One parent admitted to catching her son using an eyebrow pencil in order to draw a fake mustache, and the system verified him.
• 41:38
  So this overdependence on technology and again on government taking the place of parents, you know.
• 41:46
  Hey, I just entered a fake birthday.
• 41:47
  I had a few years to my day.
• 41:49
  Hey, they let them in.
• 41:51
  Okay, I'm trying to figure out now.
• 41:53
  Are we gonna have to put uh a control?
• 41:55
  We're gonna have to have mustache control.
• 41:58
  You know, you gotta you gotta you can't just go out and buy a fake mustache anymore because children might use it to get around these uh age estimating software.
• 42:00
  You can't just go out and buy a fake mustache anymore because children might use it to get around these uh age estimating software.
• 42:08
  But I have to wonder sometimes is it really a failure of the system, or is it a scandal looking for a consequence?
• 42:08
  But I have to wonder sometimes, is it really a failure of the system, or is it a scandal looking for a consequence?
• 42:18
  What do I mean?
• 42:18
  What do I mean?
• 42:19
  Well, what if if a child can simply enter the wrong birthday?
• 42:19
  Well, what if if it's if a child can simply enter the wrong birthday, that's not really very secure, right?
• 42:24
  That's not really very secure, right?
• 42:27
  If they can borrow someone's login ID, well, that's
• 42:27
  If they can borrow someone's login ID, well, that's that's called a single factor authentication.
• 42:32
  There are three factors, three types of authentication that can be used.
• 42:37
  There's what you know, right?
• 42:38
  Using and password.
• 42:39
  Uh, there's what you have, that's usually some sort of key fob or something, and there's who you are, your biometrics.
• 42:48
  So just having one, just having a name, well, that's not good enough.
• 42:51
  Well, we'll have to implement biometrics.
• 42:53
  And oh, by the way, in order for that to work, well, the UK is pretty looking at a national digital ID, so that they can put these controls on children because they don't think the parents are doing a good enough job.
• 43:09
  And of course, that's what some people in the United States have been trying to do to implement a national digital ID so that well, the government can protect kids from their parents' lack of uh of uh of action.
• 43:23
  Hmm.
• 43:25
  Because as we've already seen, it's just one itty-bitty step from determining that something is harmful because, well, it's pornographic to something that's harmful because it challenges the government narrative.
• 43:39
  Remember when Biden tried to implement his misinformation uh panel?
• 43:43
  You know, the what got called the uh the Ministry of Truth, where they would uh basically uh get social media to ban content that the government said wasn't true.
• 43:54
  Whether it was actually true or not didn't matter.
• 43:56
  It's what the government said.
• 43:59
  How long how far away do you think that is?
• 44:02
  So the consequence of these toe in the water, is it really just a move?
• 44:07
  And I don't know.
• 44:08
  I maybe that's a conspiracy theory, but I kind of see the logic of well, if we try to run thing that doesn't work, we've got to keep going because well, government thinks it's their responsibility to protect children, even if the parents think what they're doing is okay.
• 44:23
  The uh in loco parentis ad nauseum, so to speak.
• 44:28
  And of course, it doesn't have to be that drastic.
• 44:32
  It doesn't have to be you know government overreach and government spying and government IDs.
• 44:36
  No, no, no.
• 44:37
  Sometimes it's just realizing people don't have to put up with your nonsense.
• 44:41
  I was talking in an interview about uh New York City Mayor Zoran Mondami, and you know, first you had the the free bus fare that well, that didn't work.
• 44:50
  He's still trying to do uh um rent control and and government-owned grocery stores and all these things to uh well basically ruin the city that never sleeps, and of course, that type of behavior has consequences.
• 45:09
  Billionaires, uh Ken Griffin and Mark Rowan have decided they're gonna take thousands of jobs out of New York City, setting their sites elsewhere as a direct consequence of Mayor Mondami's tax the rich policies.
• 45:24
  Uh, for example, uh Mr.
• 45:26
  Mondami did a social media video uh using the head the the uh penthouse of uh Mr.
• 45:34
  Griffin as a backdrop to drum up support for his tax the rich on Lotry Second Homes in the city.
• 45:43
  Um appalled by this, he said, you know what?
• 45:47
  My six billion dollar Park Avenue development that my company my hedge funds funding, yeah, we're gone.
• 45:54
  He literally told CNBC that the creepy video from Mondami said, you know what?
• 46:00
  We're done here, we're gonna go to Florida.
• 46:03
  He said, we will add far more jobs in Miami over the next decade as an immediate and direct consequence of the mayor's poor decisions here with respect to his posting that that video.
• 46:15
  Now, listen, the stick it to the rich playbook has been it's been part and parcel of the Marxist uh leftist democratic party for generations.
• 46:24
  So this is this is nothing new.
• 46:26
  But I think I guess Mr.
• 46:28
  Griffin said, you know what?
• 46:28
  I don't have to put up with your nonsense.
• 46:31
  People with money have a choice, they can leave something, I guess, uh a consequence.
• 46:37
  I guess Mr.
• 46:38
  Mondami didn't fully comprehend when he looked at his uh at his uh proposals.
• 46:45
  Similarly, the the attack on Griffin has hidden concern among executives at the Apollo Global Management, uh 900 billion dollar Wall Street asset manager that uh, well, again, Mondami's going after in his anti-business rhetoric.
• 47:01
  So much so that Apollo's executives, they've decided they're gonna open a new hub, maybe in Florida, maybe in Texas, and move a thousand employees down there.
• 47:12
  Take them out of New York City, take them somewhere where they're free.
• 47:17
  According to the president of Empire Center for Public Policy, he said it's uh uh uh Silva Celinas says it's going to be a lot less money collected.
• 47:25
  One percent of New York's taxpayers bring in half of all the income revenue.
• 47:30
  These finance jobs are why people come to New York.
• 47:34
  All of a sudden, these jobs go away.
• 47:36
  New York is going to lose some of its luster and some of its spirit.
• 47:39
  In fact, he said, without finance jobs, Manhattan is a very expensive mall.
• 47:46
  And again, this isn't well, this won't be the first time that uh Mr.
• 47:50
  Griffin has moved.
• 47:51
  He started in Chicago, and he moved to Chicago, his headquarters from Chicago to uh Miami in 2022, over concerns with the city and state leaders.
• 48:05
  He said, I'm looking at what Mondami just did to me and more broadly doing to New York to the city of New York, is triggering of a trauma that I went through in Chicago.
• 48:13
  Chicago went through a renaissance during my most of my 30 years there, and then under the leadership of JB Pritzker, Lori Lightfoot, and the current mayor, has just devolved into a state that has lost its way.
• 48:24
  So now he's looks and he's gonna take his New York business and move it to Miami as well.
• 48:30
  And again, scandal and consequences.
• 48:32
  I'm wondering when will this exodus of of wealth from New York City become a scandal for Mr.
• 48:38
  Mondami?
• 48:39
  It's fully anticipated.
• 48:40
  I'm not surprised.
• 48:42
  Remember, I was born and raised in New York.
• 48:44
  I was born in New York City.
• 48:46
  I lived in upstate New York most of my life.
• 48:49
  For 50 plus years, I lived in the empire.
• 48:53
  High taxes were normal, and I dealt with it, and the regulations were normal, and I dealt with it.
• 49:00
  Were normal and I dealt with it.
• 49:02
  And then the corruption became normal.
• 49:02
  And then the corruption became normal, and I just got tired of it.
• 49:03
  And I just got tired of it.
• 49:06
  And I moved from New York to Tennessee.
• 49:06
  And I moved from New York to Tennessee.
• 49:09
  Now it cost me money to do so.
• 49:09
  Now it cost me money to do so.
• 49:12
  Blessedly, I was in a position where I could afford it, which means I got my family out of the corruption, out of the high taxes, out of the lousy services, out of the ridiculous regulation.
• 49:12
  Blessedly, I was in a position where I could afford it, which means I got my family out of the corruption, out of the high taxes, out of the lousy services, out of the the uh ridiculous regulation, and I moved them to a place down here.
• 49:24
  And I moved them to a place down here.
• 49:26
  I laughed.
• 49:26
  I laughed, so we just went through a reapport.
• 49:27
  So we just went through a reapportionment.
• 49:31
  The residential value of my farm more than doubled in five years.
• 49:38
  And, you know, granted, I get the my agriculture assessment went up, something like 30%.
• 49:44
  Of course, a lot of people are very upset about this, but I have kind of have a hard time because this is still less than I paid for my five and a half acres up in New York.
• 49:55
  So I really can't be that vocal complainer.
• 49:59
  But it wasn't just the taxes.
• 50:01
  It's the anti-business attitude.
• 50:04
  It's the we're not going to let you succeed.
• 50:06
  We're going to find every way we can to get the government to make a mess of things, to be in charge, to regulate everything.
• 50:15
  And those are the consequences of the scandal of walking away from freedom.
• 50:21
  You know, Mandami's called a lot of things.
• 50:23
  He's called an Islamist, he's called a communist, he's called a socialist, he's called a Democrat.
• 50:29
  They're all true.
• 50:31
  What he really is is a person who doesn't believe in freedom.
• 50:35
  He doesn't believe you have the right to decide for yourself.
• 50:38
  He believes that government is there to decide for you, to take control of your life, to provide everything possible.
• 50:46
  He'll just take steal it from, well, anyone he can get his fingers into.
• 50:51
  Always forgetting that it's the people that have the money that are the ones that are easiest to leave.
• 50:58
  Will this become a scandal?
• 50:59
  I hope it does.
• 51:01
  The sad part is this is exactly what the people of New York City voted for.
• 51:05
  This is not a surprise.
• 51:08
  The scandal is the people of New York City voted in this Marxist dogma.
• 51:16
  And will they they'll they'll suffer the consequences because in order to cash the checks that Mondami is writing, it's going to take even more from the middle class, from the lower class to pay for all this.
• 51:32
  Why?
• 51:33
  Because the rich people can better hide their money, or should say legally defer taxes on them, and they can leave.
• 51:42
  And really, to me, the scandal is not Mandani.
• 51:46
  The scandal is the fact that one of the largest cities in this country said, you know what?
• 51:52
  We want to be Marxists.
• 51:54
  We want, you know, from each according to his ability to each according to his need.
• 51:58
  We want to be Stalinist, Leninist, Marxists.
• 52:01
  And then they're wondering why people run away.
• 52:05
  Maybe if they were smarter, they wouldn't have that problem.
• 52:07
  They'd understand better.
• 52:09
  And that really is a thing.
• 52:11
  Sometimes we talk about scandals and we're talking about people doing bad things, right?
• 52:16
  Like the fraud in Minneapolis and Ohio.
• 52:23
  Or like the scandal in DC and other cities where crime data was manipulated to make people look good.
• 52:33
  Sometimes it's the scandal of, hey, we're going to put this age verification because we know better than the parents.
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  Rather than the helping the parents protect their children, no, no, no, we're going to take the control away and do it for them.
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  And find out that a child can get around your plans, your protections.
• 52:53
  Of course, it just instigates them to push even harder infringements on people's rights.
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  Just like voting for free bus fare and rent control and city-run grocery stores.
• 53:06
  It's all the greed of I want the goodies, but I want someone else to pay for it.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, that truly is the scandal in this country today, at least in my opinion.
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  It doesn't have to be that way.
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  I'm sure there are people that really want to live free.
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  They want to learn how to live free and they want to help others live free.
• 53:25
  It's why I created the Patriots program at the Constitution Study.
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  Just go to Constitution Study.com/slash Patriots, find out more.
• 53:32
  It's got three pillars, right?
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  It's education.
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  This is not for everybody.
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  There's people who really want to get deep into reading and studying the Constitution.
• 53:40
  It's got communication.
• 53:42
  I want to set up communication networks where patriot groups can talk to each other without the worry of censorship.
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  So that we can learn from what other people are doing.
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  If you got a great idea, let's share it.
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  If you've got something going on and you need help, share that need as well.
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  And let's be able to help them, which leads to my third and most important group, my Minutemen.
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  Men and women ready at a moment's notice to come to the aid of others, to speak at a rally, a press conference, at a committee hearing, to be there to offer advice and considerations, to be involved in helping to save this country by helping other patriot groups do what they do best.
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  See, this is not designed to replace those groups.
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  It's meant to give them tools to help them.
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  Tools to communicate, tools to learn, tools to share, tools to get help and to help others.
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  As I said, this is not for everybody.
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  In fact, you need an invitation even to join.
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  Now, if you'd like to try, head to Constitution Study.com slash Patriots, read up about it, and then take the boot camp.
• 54:51
  Right down the boot camp is a one-hour video.
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  If you would like me to do an extended boot camp with your group, reach out, let me know.
• 54:57
  We'll be I'll be happy to see if we can set it up.
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  Once you've passed the boot camp and uh signed the oath, you'll get an invitation to join us at the Patriots program.
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  It's still up to you, but you get an invitation.
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  You'll have a chance to work with people who are true and serious patriots to really make a difference, starting in your in your home, in your neighborhood, and in your hometown.
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  We spread the word by keeping our towns safe and constitutional.
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  Keep our towns the home of the free, the land of the free.
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  But only if you're brave enough to join us.
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  Go to Constitution Study.com slash patriots, take the boot camp, see if it's something that you're ready to join to, to raise your right hand and swear affirm that you'll defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
• 55:50
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