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Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei’s Wife Cami Clark and Her Epstein Correspondence · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. Every time we turn around, we're hearing about
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  Speaker 1: a new person who is connected to Jeffrey Epstein in
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  Speaker 1: one way or another. And these people that we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about are the movers and shakers of our society. They're
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  Speaker 1: making decisions, they're running the biggest companies, and they're the
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  Speaker 1: ones that are in control of all the money. Yet
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  Speaker 1: every time we turn around, Somebody that is quote-unquote respected
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  Speaker 1: by high society is connected to Jeffrey Epstein and is bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: And in today's episode, we're going to be talking about
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  Speaker 1: another person who has been outed as somebody that was
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  Speaker 1: looking to try and get some money from Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: after he was convicted. And that person is Cammie Clark,
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  Speaker 1: who is the wife of Anthropic Chief Executive Dario Amadei.
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  Speaker 1: Today's article is from the International Business Times, and the headline,
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  Speaker 1: Email show Anthropic CEO's wife asked Epstein to invest in
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  Speaker 1: luxury porn company after his conviction. Yeah, let's go to
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  Speaker 1: the convicted sex offender and ask him to invest in
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  Speaker 1: our sex company, our porn company, and then act shocked
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  Speaker 1: when you're called out for it. And keep in mind,
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  Speaker 1: this is the wife of the dude that's running Anthropic.
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  Speaker 1: So just as a quick recap, We have this dude
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  Speaker 1: running Anthropic, and then we have Sam Altman, who's being
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  Speaker 1: accused by his own sister of some pretty vile shit
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  Speaker 1: in charge of OpenAI, ChatGPT. That's real comforting, right? These
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  Speaker 1: are great people. They would never, ever hang out with
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. They would never partake in his disgustingness. This
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  Speaker 1: article was authored by Chelsea Napiza. Cammie Clark, the wife
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  Speaker 1: of Anthropic, chief executive... Dario Amodi, sought investment from Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein for an adult entertainment startup that she was building,
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  Speaker 1: according to emails sent years after the financier, pedophile's conviction,
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  Speaker 1: for soliciting prostitution, including from a minor. From a minor.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they always fall back to. And I know
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  Speaker 1: I say it every episode pretty much, but here it
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  Speaker 1: is again. The only thing they have to stand on
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  Speaker 1: is that ridiculous prosecution that led to the N.P.A., And
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  Speaker 1: once that's done away with, they have no more excuses.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody can come out and say, look, this has been investigated.
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  Speaker 1: The girl was 17. And if you say that, you're
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  Speaker 1: a dumb fuck. And if that offends you, and you
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  Speaker 1: fall into that category, I don't care. How about that?
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  Speaker 1: The correspondence contained in the Epstein files and reported by
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  Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal has drawn attention because of Clark's
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  Speaker 1: behind-the-scenes influence on Amodai and Anthropic, despite holding no formal role,
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  Speaker 1: At the Artificial Intelligence Company. Well, we all know that
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  Speaker 1: somebody's wife is going to have their ear. But the
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  Speaker 1: fact that this lady was trying to get money from
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein for her porn company after the conviction tells
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  Speaker 1: me everything I need to know about her. And is
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  Speaker 1: this the lady you want preaching to you about guardrails?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Anthropic can do this, this, and this, but
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  Speaker 1: not that. Meanwhile, she's out here trying to get Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's bitch ass to invest in her porn company? Take
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  Speaker 1: it easy, female Ron Jeremy. The emails show that Clark
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  Speaker 1: and business partner Michelle Capo Cefalo courting Epstein as a
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  Speaker 1: potential backer for Edis, a woman-focused luxury porn business, as
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  Speaker 1: well as discussing other ventures. What does that even mean?
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  Speaker 1: A luxury porn business? They gonna slap a Mercedes Benz
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  Speaker 1: sign on one of the dildos or something? I don't
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  Speaker 1: understand what that means. Luxury porn. And in this episode,
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  Speaker 1: we have some luxury masturbating. There's no indication in the
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  Speaker 1: emails that Epstein invested. The reporting does not allege that
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  Speaker 1: Clark participated in Epstein's crimes or committed any crime herself. Well,
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  Speaker 1: nobody's saying that. Who's saying that? My point is, this
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  Speaker 1: lady's in charge of Anthropic. She's out here preaching to people.
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  Speaker 1: She's in a position of power. talking about guardrails and
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  Speaker 1: what's safe and what's not, what children should look at. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: she's trying to get money from a convicted sex offender. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if you're okay with that, cool. Me personally, I am not.
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  Speaker 1: The contact began with an introduction. According to the journal's reporting,
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  Speaker 1: literary agent John Brockman, John Brockman, the billionaire's edge dinner,
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  Speaker 1: remember that guy? Connected Clark and Capo Cefalo, with Epstein
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  Speaker 1: in March of 2011, while they were seeking funding for
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  Speaker 1: their venture. Clark subsequently communicated directly with Epstein about the business.
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  Speaker 1: Of course she did. I mean, are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: They wanted the money. It's no different than Bill Gates.
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  Speaker 1: How do you think these rich people get rich? And
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  Speaker 1: how do you think they stay rich? Do you think
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  Speaker 1: they're spending their own money? Do you think they're using
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  Speaker 1: their debit card when they go to the store? They
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  Speaker 1: use credit. Everything's built on credit for these people. And
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  Speaker 1: they just run that checkup, right? And that's how they
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  Speaker 1: live these extravagant luxury lives. It's all a big-ass Ponzi scheme, actually,
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  Speaker 1: if we're being honest. And that shit's run by none
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  Speaker 1: other than the financial sector itself. Clark proposed meeting Epstein
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  Speaker 1: for dinner following the introduction and later followed up enthusiastically
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  Speaker 1: about their meeting. Days later, she sent Epstein material connected
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  Speaker 1: to the company's planned films, warning that the content... was
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  Speaker 1: not safe for work. Well, safe for Epstein's work. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: it's right in his wheelhouse. Exactly what Epstein was looking for.
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  Speaker 1: The following year, in March of 2012, Clark contacted Epstein
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  Speaker 1: again and asked whether he would be interested in investing
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  Speaker 1: in business being developed by her and a colleague. The
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  Speaker 1: available correspondence provides no indication that Epstein ultimately invested. The
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  Speaker 1: timing is central to the story. Clark's outreach came after
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  Speaker 1: Epstein had pleaded guilty in Florida in 2008 to prostitution-related offenses,
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  Speaker 1: including soliciting a minor for prostitution, and had been required
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  Speaker 1: to register as a sex offender. His criminal history therefore
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  Speaker 1: predated her approach for investment. And for me, that's the
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  Speaker 1: biggest deal, right? If you were palling around with this
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  Speaker 1: dude before he was convicted, before he was under the microscope,
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  Speaker 1: you at least have a leg to stand on. I
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  Speaker 1: have no idea what he was doing. Bro wasn't under suspicion. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I might not believe you, but at least you have
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  Speaker 1: a leg to stand on. After 2008? Just save it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. I don't care about
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  Speaker 1: your excuses. Oh, I didn't know the horrible scope of it. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you did. You didn't care. Just tell the truth. I
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  Speaker 1: know the vast majority of you scumbags are allergic to it,
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  Speaker 1: but how about you try it sometime? Who is Cammy Clark?
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  Speaker 1: Clark keeps a relatively low public profile, but submerged as
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  Speaker 1: an influential figure around anthropic, and its chief executive. The
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  Speaker 1: Journal describes her as an important-sounding board and strategic advisor
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  Speaker 1: to Amadé, despite her having no formal position at Anthropic.
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  Speaker 1: She also accompanied him at prominent gatherings and helped connect
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  Speaker 1: him with powerful figures in business and technology. Well, that's
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  Speaker 1: his wife. I get that, right? And when you're in
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  Speaker 1: a position of power like this, your wife is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a key player. She's going to be, you know,
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  Speaker 1: doing her thing. so I don't really have a problem
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  Speaker 1: with her going to parties and shit. The problem is
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  Speaker 1: if she has any pull within the company. And if
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  Speaker 1: I was somebody investing in Anthropic, I'd have some questions.
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  Speaker 1: Clark married Amodei in 2022 after the pair began dating
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  Speaker 1: in 2014. Before her relationship with Amodei, she dated former
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  Speaker 1: Google chief executive Eric Schmidt, whom she later helped connect
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  Speaker 1: with Amodei. Schmidt subsequently became an early anthropic investor. And
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  Speaker 1: there's like this internal circuit where all these people date
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  Speaker 1: each other. It's so weird. You have such a vast
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  Speaker 1: dating pool, especially when you're that rich, and you're out
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  Speaker 1: here dating each other? These women are out here homie-hopping? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. Her entrepreneurial ventures have included Edis, the woman-focused
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  Speaker 1: adult entertainment company at the center of the Epstein correspondents,
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  Speaker 1: and later businesses involving dieting and women's health technology. Probably
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  Speaker 1: the kind of shit you see hawked on these podcasts, right? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: buy my dick pills. Oh, I have some women pills
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  Speaker 1: that's going to fix your estrogen problems. Oh, do you
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  Speaker 1: have hot flashes due to menopause? Take this pill. Clark's
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  Speaker 1: not listed as an anthropic employee or executive. The significance
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  Speaker 1: of the journal's reporting instead lies in the influence it
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  Speaker 1: says she exercises behind the scenes as one of Amadai's
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  Speaker 1: closest advisors. Well, that's definitely a problem. 100%. Now, is
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  Speaker 1: it a gigantic problem where, you know, the FBI should
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  Speaker 1: be kicking in the door? No. But it calls into
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  Speaker 1: question what's going on behind the scenes and who Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Amodai is taking advice from. The disclosure places additional scrutiny
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  Speaker 1: on the people surrounding the leadership of one of the
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  Speaker 1: world's most powerful artificial intelligence companies. Anthropic was founded in
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  Speaker 1: 2021 and by Amadei, his sister Daniela Amadei, and other
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  Speaker 1: former OpenAI employees. The company has made AI safety a
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  Speaker 1: major part of its identity while developing the Claude family
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  Speaker 1: of models. And weren't they the ones preaching to everybody?
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  Speaker 1: I think they were. Meanwhile, your own chief executive, the
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  Speaker 1: boss of your company, is married to one of Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's gal pals? Okay, cool. Keep on preaching from that
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  Speaker 1: ivory tower. The Journal reports that Clark played a meaningful
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  Speaker 1: role in Anthropic's development despite remaining outside its formal organizational structure,
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  Speaker 1: including helping Amadai cultivate relationships with investors and other influential figures.
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  Speaker 1: That makes her previous outreach to Epstein noteworthy, but the
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  Speaker 1: email should not be presented as evidence of wrongdoing by Anthropic, Amadai,
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  Speaker 1: or Clark beyond what the documents themselves established. I love
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  Speaker 1: how they have to qualify it. Who thinks that? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: who really thinks that because there's an email, she's part
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  Speaker 1: of the trafficking ring. She's part of the criminal enterprise.
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  Speaker 1: That's not the point. The point is these people all lied.
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  Speaker 1: They all lied about their attachment to Epstein. They all
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  Speaker 1: lied about their relationship to Epstein. And why didn't Miss
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  Speaker 1: Cammie Clark come out previously and say, look, here's the deal.
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  Speaker 1: Here's my connection to him. How can I help? You
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  Speaker 1: notice there's none of that, right? All these big shots
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  Speaker 1: worried about their reputations. Here's an idea, step up to
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  Speaker 1: the plate, be a man, be a woman, and do
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  Speaker 1: the right thing. But it seems to me that all
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  Speaker 1: these people are allergic to the right thing. Clark is
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  Speaker 1: one of numerous business, technology, and political figures whose interactions
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  Speaker 1: with Epstein have emerged through the release and examination of
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  Speaker 1: records connected with the late financier. You mean pedophile. The
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  Speaker 1: relevant distinction is important. Appearing in Epstein-related correspondence does not
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  Speaker 1: itself establish participation in or knowledge of his criminal conduct.
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  Speaker 1: What the reporting establishes is considerably narrower. Clark approached Epstein
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  Speaker 1: after his 2008 conviction and sought investment for one of
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  Speaker 1: her businesses. There's no indication in the available correspondence that
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  Speaker 1: he ultimately provided the funding. Years later, Clark married Amodei
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  Speaker 1: and became influential but unofficial presence around the leadership of Anthropic.
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  Speaker 1: So the question is, how close was she to Epstein?
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  Speaker 1: What does she know, if anything? And when did she
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  Speaker 1: know it? And these are all questions that would have
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  Speaker 1: been asked if there was a real investigation. But we
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  Speaker 1: all know that never occurred, so these questions were never asked.
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  Speaker 1: And until they do get asked by the authorities and
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  Speaker 1: the right people, me and my big mouth will be
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  Speaker 1: right here, popping off, until we get the answers and
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  Speaker 1: transparency that we deserve. All the information that goes with
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