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Japan is Overrun By Raccoons Entirely Due to a Single Cartoon · Ridiculous History

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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the show, fellow Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so
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  Speaker 1: much for tuning in Kenichiwa. We might say hello, welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Tanuki Tanuki. I love it, dude, I love a Tanuki.
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  Speaker 1: That's our falls of Steel, that's our super producer, mister
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  Speaker 1: Max Williams.
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  Speaker 2: Is that that's not a me as zaki, but it's
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  Speaker 2: a ghibli. And there is about a family of raccoons
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  Speaker 2: that use their giant testicles as implements of magic.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how else to describe it. It's true,
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  Speaker 1: it's old it's old school Japanese folklore as well. You're
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  Speaker 1: Noel Brown, I'm Ben Bowling, and we are we are
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  Speaker 1: talking to Nuki right now. For this episode, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to be talking raccoons because, as you may know, folks,
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  Speaker 1: Fella Ridiculous Historians, there is a bit of mischaracterization and
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  Speaker 1: assassin character assassination afoot when we come to the humble
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  Speaker 1: and ever cute Tanuki.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about this. Are we talking because they
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  Speaker 2: have creepy human hands? Because they're characterized as being verminous
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  Speaker 2: bandits of some sort? We are we talking here, Ben,
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  Speaker 2: tell me of this malign How dare they malign the
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  Speaker 2: raccoon community.
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  Speaker 1: I love the idea of a singular malaid. Tell me
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  Speaker 1: of your maligny, mal So this is the deal. Think
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  Speaker 1: of it this way, folks. If you had let's say
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  Speaker 1: you ad a twin brother, right, since we're all dudes,
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  Speaker 1: you have a twin brother, and you are an upstanding
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  Speaker 1: citizen in your neck of the woods. But your twin
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  Speaker 1: brother is an absolute menace, and you get in trouble
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of the stuff your twin did even
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  Speaker 1: though you were not your twin. That is the story
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  Speaker 1: of the raccoon and the Tanuki in Japan.
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  Speaker 3: This sounds like a fable of sorts set up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, what are you talking about? Is Thomas Riker versus
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  Speaker 4: William Riker?
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  Speaker 1: Oh nice, nice cut there, man. I like that as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a deeper startark cut. Yeah. Yeah, let's boldly go
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  Speaker 1: into this story. Guys. We're all from the United States,
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  Speaker 1: which is a pretty I'm gonna be diplomatic, a pretty
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  Speaker 1: big deal. Still hasn't had the best time being has
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  Speaker 1: had the best reputation all the while, all the time,
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  Speaker 1: we know that, but no person, no country or perfect,
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  Speaker 1: but no, when you were growing up, a young lad
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  Speaker 1: is a small German by a small German American boy
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  Speaker 1: by this point the.
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  Speaker 3: Way, look at this guy. Yeah, this is my small
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  Speaker 3: German boys missing out a limb. But this is me.
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  Speaker 1: I wish y'all could see this.
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  Speaker 3: It's a little Rosie figurine rosie cheeks a little little
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  Speaker 3: bit arians and he's wearing later hosen and has a
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  Speaker 3: key of some sort.
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  Speaker 2: Of round, isn't I think it was a gift to
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  Speaker 2: me from a trip that my kid took to Portland.
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  Speaker 1: Heart shaped keys. So, okay, you're you're growing up in
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  Speaker 1: you're growing up in the southern part of the US.
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  Speaker 1: Did you guys ever see raccoons?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 2: I had a friend growing up whose name was shell
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  Speaker 2: Is Sheldon. We're still friends. And his parents were real
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  Speaker 2: animal lovers and kind of conservationists. They worked in labs
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  Speaker 2: and they, like you know, work with wildlife, and they
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  Speaker 2: had a pat.
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  Speaker 3: Raccoon at Taine. Was my exposure.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that I really ran across any in
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  Speaker 2: the wild, but as an adult living here in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 2: you certainly see him rummaging your rumblings, rummage around.
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  Speaker 1: I love to see a raccoon run quickly because they
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  Speaker 1: don't look like they're designed to do so. But they
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  Speaker 1: have the goofiest looking parkour and they're just adorable.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you where. It's huge these days, and the
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  Speaker 2: most of my raccoon exposure is from meme pages on
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah, in the internet, on Instagram. They are beloved
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  Speaker 2: and there's so many delightful raccoon goofy raccoon meme pages.
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  Speaker 2: If you're in.
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  Speaker 1: Washing your hands, just getting into all kinds of little
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  Speaker 1: misadventures before you give it, yes Skins, ne'er do wells,
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  Speaker 1: Dennis the Menace types. So before I give a little
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  Speaker 1: anecdote about raccoon experiences in my old life, we've got
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  Speaker 1: We've got none other then mister Max Williams here, who
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  Speaker 1: may have a story to tell.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a few years ago now, but it was
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  Speaker 4: like one night, my cat, Sylvia was sitting by the
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  Speaker 4: glass door, just like looking out, you know cats do,
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  Speaker 4: and a raccoon just like sat right next to her
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  Speaker 4: on the other side. And the raccoon was very well
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  Speaker 4: aware there's a glass between us. The raccoons like whatever
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  Speaker 4: Sylvia was not and Sylvia, you know, she's solid white fur.
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  Speaker 4: So she just I look over and see the giant
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  Speaker 4: cotton ball. I'm like, Sylvie, wait, oh, there's a raccoon
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  Speaker 4: right there. And the raccoons like, I'm a lot bigger
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  Speaker 4: than you.
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  Speaker 1: You want to go? You want to go?
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  Speaker 3: The glass between us?
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  Speaker 1: We can go. They can be chonky boys, for sure,
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  Speaker 1: the raccoons.
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  Speaker 4: This was a quite chonky one too.
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  Speaker 1: I remember growing up in the Southeastern United States. I
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  Speaker 1: spent a lot of time outdoors in my childhood, and
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  Speaker 1: raccoons always, to me seemed so inquisitive and clever. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they washed their food before they eat it. And we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about their little hands off air.
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  Speaker 3: They like to keep those clean too.
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  Speaker 2: They're always rubbing them together, and it does make them
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  Speaker 2: look a little bit mister Burns esque, but they are
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  Speaker 2: doing it out of a need for cleanliness. They've got
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  Speaker 2: in good hygiene. To your point, Ben, unfairly maligned is
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  Speaker 2: like trash creatures.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, But they do eat trash to be cle
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  Speaker 1: that's also true. That's also true. They also do eat
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  Speaker 1: a lot of trash. I love when they rub their
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  Speaker 1: hands together because they look like they're scheming what we're
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  Speaker 1: saying is raccoons are not uncommon sight in many parts
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  Speaker 1: of the United States and across the country. If you
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  Speaker 1: are in the US, you have probably accepted these little
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  Speaker 1: rascals as a fascinating part of the natural world because
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  Speaker 1: they're they've got pinashed, they're just sort of We did
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  Speaker 1: an episode on what makes things cool recently on Stuff
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  Speaker 1: they Don't Want You to Know, And raccoons are kind
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  Speaker 1: of cool, right they are.
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  Speaker 2: They're very cool. They got a lot of personality. They Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's what it is. They I think they're they're so
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  Speaker 2: big on the internet is because of that copious amounts
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  Speaker 2: of personality that the little fellas have.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we anthropomorphize the heck out of them, right,
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  Speaker 1: because of that personality, that sass and that swag. Yet,
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  Speaker 1: it may surprise a lot of us to learn their
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  Speaker 1: relatively positive reputation in the United States doesn't always translate
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  Speaker 1: to other places, including Japan, where right now, as we record,
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  Speaker 1: raccoons are a very divisive life form. They're considered they
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  Speaker 1: are still considered cool by a lot of the public,
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  Speaker 1: but the government doesn't think of them as a nifty
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  Speaker 1: little woodland scamp. They are seriously concerning invasive species. As
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  Speaker 1: we record right now, raccoons are wreaking havoc across the
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  Speaker 1: nation of Japan. And get this, folks, it's all due
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  Speaker 1: to one cartoon.
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  Speaker 3: Oh geez, which one.
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  Speaker 1: It's Rascal. It's a cartoon about a raccoon. Now I
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  Speaker 1: go on a tick. You might be saying, hasn't Japan
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  Speaker 1: always had raccoons? Why were nol and Max and Ben
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  Speaker 1: able to get that kick ass power suit in Super
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  Speaker 1: Mario THREEI Mario Tanuki Mario. There's also the one that
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  Speaker 1: just gives you the ability to kind of float where
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  Speaker 1: you're still Mario, but you.
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  Speaker 3: Have a tail.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 2: It just sort of like beats the air back and forth,
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  Speaker 2: and it allows you to sort of float around.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Mario three tail flip move.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean it's this gets us to our first
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  Speaker 1: common misconception, and this might be surprising to a lot
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  Speaker 1: of us. Japan does have a native mammal that looks
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  Speaker 1: a whole heck of a lot like a raccoon. That's
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  Speaker 1: the tanuki uh commonly known as the Japanese raccoon.
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  Speaker 3: Dog m okay.
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  Speaker 2: They are endemic to Japan, and they, as we mentioned
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  Speaker 2: earlier with the giant, the testicleed cartoon ghibli characters. They're
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  Speaker 2: big in Japanese folklore, similar to how other cultures regard
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  Speaker 2: actual raccoons. The tanuki is seen as the sort of
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  Speaker 2: mischievous king, puckish trickster type figure, a master of disguise,
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  Speaker 2: and a real Bachanalian kind of fellow.
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  Speaker 1: Right yeah, lover of good times. We pulled up in
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  Speaker 1: our research just just for reference for us, a side
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  Speaker 1: by side look at the tanuki and the actual facts
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  Speaker 1: shout out law and vocal bomb raccoon, and they look
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  Speaker 1: so alike Noel, that I would argue if someone made
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  Speaker 1: a police sketch of a raccoon criminal, the cops would
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  Speaker 1: probably end up profiling and arresting an innocent tanuki.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, hence your twin ref earlier. I think it
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  Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense they do.
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  Speaker 2: They both have those dark kind of shaded circles around
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  Speaker 2: their eyes. They both have ears that are approximately the
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  Speaker 2: same distance apart. They've got kind of little puffs tufts
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  Speaker 2: of white hair, the same kind of patterns of color.
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  Speaker 2: I would argue the tanuki is a little more hound like,
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  Speaker 2: with the snout a little more elongated snout and the raccoon.
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  Speaker 2: Raccoon has a little bit more of a squished face,
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  Speaker 2: such a little wider face, a little more distance between
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  Speaker 2: the eyes, but the color patterns very similar if you
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  Speaker 2: ignore the whiskers.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the thing. The Japanese raccoon dog, the
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  Speaker 1: tanuki is not an actual raccoon. The raccoon and the
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  Speaker 1: raccoon dog or actually not that closely related. Japan had
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  Speaker 1: tanuki forever. Japan did not have the raccoon until the
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, and when the raccoon did reach the shores
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  Speaker 1: of that country, things got nuts so quickly. But how,
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  Speaker 1: pray tell no, how on earth did raccoons make it
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  Speaker 1: all the way across the Pacific Ocean from the United
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  Speaker 1: States to the nation of the Rising Sun. Well clearly
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  Speaker 1: they flew with their magical raccoon tale, of course, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and that's our episode of folks. Theakes has always so
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  Speaker 1: much for tuning.
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  Speaker 3: In yep, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: It starts right before the seventies, nineteen seventies, with a
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  Speaker 2: Wisconsin worn author named Sterling North. In nineteen sixty three,
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  Speaker 2: North wrote a young adult novel called Rascals, A Memoir
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  Speaker 2: of a Better Era about his childhood, and in that
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  Speaker 2: book he adopts a baby raccoon for one year. And
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  Speaker 2: the book was a huge smash when it came out.
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  Speaker 2: And admittedly I was not aware of this this work.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, same and Max, had you ever heard of this
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  Speaker 1: as well?
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  Speaker 4: No, I had not heard of this one myself. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: this is all new news.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is strange because for us, we're not of
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  Speaker 1: the generation that would have encountered Rascal the young adult novel.
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  Speaker 1: In the book, as he said, he adopts our protagonist
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  Speaker 1: sterly and adopts a baby raccoon for a year, And
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  Speaker 1: a lot of us might be surprised in the audience,
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  Speaker 1: especially the younger amongst us, to realize that this is
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  Speaker 1: part of the reason people in America still frequently describe
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  Speaker 1: raccoons as rascals. Look, this was such a big hit
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  Speaker 1: that The Tale After was published in nineteen sixty three.
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  Speaker 1: By nineteen sixty nine, it was made into a live
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  Speaker 1: action Disney film. I don't know if the mouse will
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  Speaker 1: let us play the theme song, but it's very nineteen seventies.
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  Speaker 2: We better act in deference to the mouse. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we don't want to get We don't want to get sued.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want to get moused. Yeah, so you can
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  Speaker 1: fast trapped, even mouse trapped. Even better, so you can
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  Speaker 1: find on your YouTube of choice any number of clips
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  Speaker 1: from the live action Disney adaptation. At this time, this
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  Speaker 1: is all great for our author, mister North, and it's
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  Speaker 1: also great for kids growing up, both the readers of
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  Speaker 1: the original book the fans of the film adaptation. Yet
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  Speaker 1: this is just the beginning of the story. If we
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  Speaker 1: like we're starting in America, how about we fast forward
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  Speaker 1: to nineteen seventy seven Japan.
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  Speaker 3: So here we are, fast forward into nineteen seventy We
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  Speaker 3: did it. We made Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The Japan based animation company Nipon Animation creates a cartoon
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  Speaker 2: series called aria Guma Rasukaru.
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  Speaker 3: Which isn't that kind of one.
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  Speaker 2: Of those Japanese sort of americanized words, because the word
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  Speaker 2: is rascal. Rasukara almost sounds like a phonetic kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I like that. I think you're onto something.
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  Speaker 3: Rascal the raccoon is that would be the translation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And unlike the young adult novel, unlike the I'm laughing,
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  Speaker 1: unlike the Disney film, Oh my gosh, it's so it's
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  Speaker 1: so of its era. Please just please check out the
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  Speaker 1: Disney film, even if the mouse won't let us do it.
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  Speaker 1: Unlike those things, this is an epic anime series. It
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  Speaker 1: runs for fifty two episodes. The Disney film tried to
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  Speaker 1: be a little more playful. There are lots of bucolic
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  Speaker 1: fun shots of this boy and his dog playing with
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  Speaker 1: the raccoon, But this adaptation says, no, we're gonna cut
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  Speaker 1: to the quick. We're getting to the dramatic roots of
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  Speaker 1: this young adult novel.
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  Speaker 3: Okay okay.
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  Speaker 2: So kids in Japan, originally this was kind of alien
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  Speaker 2: to them, this creature. They certainly never read the original book.
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  Speaker 2: But something about the kid featured named sterling Uh and
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  Speaker 2: his animal sidekick is familiar. Rascal it It really took
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  Speaker 2: the the nation's children's hearts and minds by storm.
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  Speaker 3: Airing all year round, the show was a huge hit.
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  Speaker 2: Think of it like almost a precedent setting the type
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  Speaker 2: of property for something like Pokemon or other big pop
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  Speaker 2: cultural crazes there in the country.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, people were cuckoo for raccoon puffs. I guess
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  Speaker 1: you could.
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  Speaker 3: Says there were rococo.
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  Speaker 1: So uh. This is where we see a turn in
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  Speaker 1: the story because arguably Ari Russell Power became a little
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  Speaker 1: too successful, And to tell you why it became too successful,
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  Speaker 1: we have to spoil a book from thenineteen sixty three.
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  Speaker 1: So before you get mad at us on the internet,
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  Speaker 1: this is the spoiler warning.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, we'll give you a little ten second countdown
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  Speaker 3: ten ninety seven fourth or two spoiler time time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Like like so many coming of age stories
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  Speaker 1: in young adult novels, from Old Yeller to My Side
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  Speaker 1: of the Mountain.
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  Speaker 3: No, racl didn't get Old Yeller, did he.
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  Speaker 1: He did not get Old Yellow.
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  Speaker 3: Oh thank god.
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  Speaker 1: So at the end of the novel, what happens instead
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  Speaker 1: is our childhood hero Sterling realizes, Hey, I love my raccoon.
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  Speaker 1: I love baby Rascal, but all raccoons are in fact
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  Speaker 1: wild animals, not domestic animals. So as much as I
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  Speaker 1: adore my little buddy, he isn't a pet. And so
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  Speaker 1: with great regrets.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta let those ponies run, you gotta.
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  Speaker 1: Let those ponies ride. Yeah, ye, Sterling ultimately does the
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  Speaker 1: right thing. He releases Rascal into the wild, so it's
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  Speaker 1: definitely not as bleak as Old Yeller, which we're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna spoil because.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's you. You can tet you together, you
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  Speaker 3: probably get there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, and it's still too close to both
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  Speaker 1: of us, it sounds like. But the ending of Rascal
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  Speaker 1: is bittersweet, and it's it's a good way to give
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  Speaker 1: a lesson to kids. It shows our protagonists growing up
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  Speaker 1: in the story. He learns his lesson, He loves his
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  Speaker 1: time with Rascal, and he lets Rascal live his own
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  Speaker 1: life as a wild animal.
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  Speaker 2: And what, however, appear to the children of the pan
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  Speaker 2: did not take the meaning or the message. It's d
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  Speaker 2: art no, it's that led to an explosion in raccoon
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  Speaker 2: importation for pet purposes.
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  Speaker 1: Right, It's kind of like uh if. A film critic
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  Speaker 1: saw the first twenty minutes of Titanic and said, this
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  Speaker 1: is a film about it. A amazing boat.
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  Speaker 3: Real luxury liner.
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  Speaker 1: So requiem for a dreams of feel good buddy comedy.
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  Speaker 1: It's about friends.
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  Speaker 2: It's about the friends we made along the way and
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  Speaker 2: the limbs we lost.
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  Speaker 1: Oh jeez, So all right, you're absolutely right, folks nailed
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  Speaker 1: it here are Raskoru was so very popular in Japan
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  Speaker 1: that the idea of having a real life raccoon pet
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  Speaker 1: became like the hottest Christmas toy would be in the
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  Speaker 1: States like an Elmo of yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this led to fifteen hundred raccoons being imported
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  Speaker 2: from the United States every single month, to the delight
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  Speaker 2: of children and perhaps the chagrin of parents all across Japan.
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  Speaker 2: And just like the real life Rasukaru or Rascal, these
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  Speaker 2: animals were very.
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  Speaker 3: Much not suited for domestic life.
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  Speaker 2: I want to backtrack real quick to my friends parents,
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  Speaker 2: pet raccoon theirs was very much a rescue situation, right,
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  Speaker 2: which could not have made it on its own in
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  Speaker 2: the wild. So that was they were coming at it
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  Speaker 2: from that conservationist perspective.
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  Speaker 1: It was probably acquired as a child, perhaps due to abandonment,
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  Speaker 1: and it was tame and familiar, possibly through the Yeah
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  Speaker 1: their research, Yeah, yeah, exactly, that makes sense, and that
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  Speaker 1: still happens today across the country. As as you were saying, no,
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  Speaker 1: from nineteen seventy seven on, we see so many raccoons
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  Speaker 1: imported directly from the US to families across Japan per month.
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  Speaker 1: These guys are lovable, furry balls of beat me here, Max,
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  Speaker 1: fucking chaos, no cabinet, no drawer left unexamined, pooping everywhere.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Massive, they've got opposable thumbs. They can anything right, right.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: You would have to babyproof. You would have to raccoon
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: proof your house the same way you would babyproof a house.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And there's so much damage to these homes, this property,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: these apartments. True stories, some families did get raccoon pets
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: in their apartments. And also just like the old Vietnamese
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: pot belly pig craze where everybody thought the pig would
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: say small and babyish for a moment, these guys do
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: grow up and they get bigger, and as they become
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: adult raccoons, they could also turn violent towards humans because
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: you know, they're wild animals and they're in a place
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: that is very stressfully different from their natural environment. So, dude,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: just like Sterling North as a child, these kids and
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: their families are learning a hard lesson about wild animals
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: in your home.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not quite as bad as like justin Bier
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: we were abandoning his pet monkey at the border, but
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: it happens.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: In It did happen. It's in the same vein.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: It becomes one of those irresponsible moments in pet ownership
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: where you sign up or bite off more than you
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: can chew and then all of a sudden you maybe
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: have to make the easy, easier decision, which you know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: while it is the plot of the book, and in
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the context of the book, it does make sense all
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: of this happening at once, all of these creatures being
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: released back into the wild at once, creates a real
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: problem with the ecosystem.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. And life imitates art, as
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: they always say, and they say it for a reason.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I forgot to mention, Noel Max, You guys will both
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: love this fact because we're I think all three big
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: fans of Studio Jibli. Was it pomp Poco?
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Is that what it's called?
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Pomp Poco?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Pomp Poco is the Jibli film that we were talking
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: about with the anthropomorphic talking, big bald raccoon. Sorry, I
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: don't know if that's what you're talking about. Record they do,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: you their testicles to fly around. They inflate them like
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: like parachutes or zeppelins or something.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: It's it's odd, to say the least.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: But it's historically accurate for the folklore. What will interest you, guys,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I think, is that a Russell Korro please partner our
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: pronunciation here. We're not native speakers. The anime of Rascal
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: also has a sleeper Easter egg in it. It features
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: very early work by none other than Miyazaki.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So back around, like Pompoko was not a
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Miyazaki directly created film, but it was part of his
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: animation studio.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and High Walt Disney of Japan.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: He's often yes, yeah, and it seems a little bit
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: cooler than The Big Mouse anyway, So maybe there is
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: a sort of artistic or esthetic through line here from
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Arima Russel Caro to Pompuro because Miyazaki was literally working
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: on this anime cartoon anyway. So like you said, they're
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: these well meaning families, right, tried to get their kid
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the coolest present. It didn't work out. It caused pandemonium
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: in the home. They let them out, you know, drive
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: to the edge of the city, just like the old
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: trope of letting a dog go free, or dogs probably
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: would just want to get back in the.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Car, but we don't watch you anymore.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Rocks. All that means, yeah, everybody's crying. So the thing is,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: the raccoon friends here are hardy, resourceful. They're real mcguvers
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: of mammals and most Importantly, they're omnivorous. They don't turn
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: down a free lunch, so they quickly begin to thrive
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: in areas across Japan. And this is where we see, uh,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: something that we will call naturalization in the world of biology.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: They're an invasive species, but they like where they're moving in.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: They like the neighborhoods. So they're going across through the
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventies and the eighties to all different prefectures of Japan,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: even unto the very far northern part of Japan, Hokkaido,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: which is just so everybody knows, it's very far away.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: It's tough to get there. And they did a great job,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: and they became a menace. There's no other way to
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: say it. They're popular. Like, look, you're raccoon. You just
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: did your time in a Japanese home based on the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: fact that this one cartoon compelled the nation. You get
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: out and then you meet a lady raccoon who's been
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: in a similar situation, and you say, oh, hey, babe,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: we had a lot in common. You know, we're not
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: doing raccoon ginder.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, we're.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Not doing raccoon hin. We met naturally. I like your vibe.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: So these raccoons trying to settle down, it's not a
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: raccoon family. Yeah, they start a family of their own.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Their population shoots up so quickly, and they engage in
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: continual acts of crime. These are all all raccoon families
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: in Japan now are considered crime families.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it makes sense, you know, with the whole
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: bandit look of them, you know what, it looks like
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: they're doing crimes, tippy toeing around.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I thought that was a funny bit on Uh what
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: was it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: It was John Oliver recently where I was talking about
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: crime rates, and uh, it's it was something like a
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: It was a it was a publication for crime and
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: it was called Reasons to Tiptoe or something, and it
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: showed like a criminal with a mask and a bag
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: of cash, just like tiptoeing.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, a domino mask. Yeah, we're just exactly which raccoons
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: naturally have. And also I want to say it does
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: folks correct us if we're wrong here? Do you like
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: how I encouraged you guys to be wrong with me?
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Of course, let's all be wrong together.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Let's all be wrong together. A domino mask seems like
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: the most inefficient mask, you know what I mean, Like
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the one that just goes over part of your eyes
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: and the rest.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Of the Superman rules right, Like it's like, come on,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: we know it's you Clark somehow. And the crux of
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: his secret identity.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: That's another question too, and not to derail us too far,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: but riddle me this. If Superman's glasses are his only
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: real disguise, does his optometrist know his real identity?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: You know who I saw pose that very question, Ben,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Who's that? It's a singer. She's her name is Aurora,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: and she's a delight. She's from Iceland and she gets
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: compared to Buick a lot. But okay, she has some
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: really fine hot takes and that may well be a
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: thing that's been floating.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: But she asked that very question. Uh, does his optometrist
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: know his secret identity?
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Does he have to go to the optometrists? Even well?
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Vision argued, are a prop drug.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Store reading glasses or what are they? What do they
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: call it? Readers?
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Another question that she poses in that same vein is
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: why is it that superheroes are always trying to keep
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: things the same and super villains are always trying to
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: change things.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. I have a philosop that's great,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: that's deep. What was the name of that musician, Aurora? Aurora?
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Just one real cutie like metal, Yeah, Aurora.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll check out the music. These guys. The raccoons
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: are reading crops across the nation of Japan. They're doing
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: it as we record right now. They're causing hundreds of
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: thousands of dollars US equivalent every year. The government does
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: eventually ban the importation of raccoons, but it's too little,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: too late. The Invasive Alien Species Act, which they've had
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: for a very long time, now includes raccoons, and in
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: two thousand and five they were called an invasive alien species,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: which means that you can no longer watch a sick
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: anime and buy a raccoon from the US. You also
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: can't transfer it, and if you like, you can't sell
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: it to someone else in Japan, and if you have one,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: you also cannot just throw it out into the woods. Dude.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: That's the thing.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Anytime you see these crazes that involve like living creatures,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: they're almost always ill informed and really rushed without thinking
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: about the aftermath for humans and for the creatures.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Themselves and you really do hate to see it.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, So it doesn't sound like we're casting stones here.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Two of the most famous and sadly continual examples in
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the United States are going to be rabbit sails in
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Easter and black cat sales around Halloween. Those things continually happen,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: and unfortunately it doesn't always work out for the rabbits
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: or for the cats. In addition, however, to the agricultural terrorism,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: all right, it might be exaggerating a bit there. Invasive
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: raccoon crimes also include the following, and maybe we do
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: it like a hit. Listen, all uh, these guys are
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: getting everywhere.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: They are now. They're they're doing crimes, they're taking names.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: They are destroying historic sites, including temples, which of course
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: have you know, incredibly important cultural and historical significance.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: A lot of those are built of wood. The raccoons
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: are also stealing fruit and fish from human vendors, usually
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: because they're getting into storage spaces. After me that they
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: of business. Yeah, but sometimes sometimes it's a land version
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: of a seagull who just swipes something from a tourist
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: eating at the beach, you know what I mean. A
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: raccoon looks at you when you are selling fish or
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: buy fish, and thinks can that person get goat?
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: I think they can. Yeah.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: They're also you know, similar to the issues you might see, well,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: raccoons do this here in the States too, campsites and
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: garbage cans and mountain areas or like kind of more
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: like camping type areas. People put locks on their trash
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: cans and their dumpsters because of bears and other critters.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Raccoons you will see often with like overturned trash cans
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: spilling refuse every wish where. And that's what they were
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: doing there too, messing with garbage cans and dumpsters. And
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: then I think most importantly in terms of the overall
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: ecosystem question of it all, they're pushing out native species
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: with their sheer numbers. Yeah.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And sadly, ironically, paradoxically, one of the native species
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: under the most direct threat is going to be none
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: other than the humble tanuki.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the irony is thick.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Despite them not being super closely related, the tanuki and
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the raccoon are competing for a lot of the same resources,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: which means that these American invasive species raccoons are moving
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: in on the native tanuki's territory.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's a country wide phenomenon. By twenty
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: twenty one, raccoons had provably naturalized in forty four of
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Japan's forty seven prefectures. A prefecture imagined it like a
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: state basically. So these populations are now widespread in relatively
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: relatively more remote areas like Hokkaido, as we mentioned across Honshu,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and the crisis continues today. So this is a p
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: s A and a plea to protect your local tanuki
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: if you are in Japan. Luckily, if we want to
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: end on a positive note, the humble tanuki has some
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: serious balls, and because we are grown people literally figured
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: we haven't. We have alluded to this in a very
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: responsible way through multiple times thus far.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do check out Pompoko.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: It is a children's movie, uh that does depict these
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: magical members doing all kinds of crazy crazy stuff.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Standing scrotum is how you put it here, Ben?
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could learn a lot about
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: this due to the the folklore here. So we mentioned
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: that the tanuki have, similar to the kasuni or the fox,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: have long been treated as an animal of myth with
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: magical symbolic powers in Japanese folklore. And yes, one of
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: the ideas for the one of the like stories you
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: see about tanuki in the wild is that they can
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: stretch their ball sack to the size of eight to
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Tommy Matts, I love.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: How is that the metric, benc I don't think, I know,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: is that like a futan?
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: What is like you remember when you see the traditional
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Japanese rooms and they've got that semi sitting Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: it's it's a measure that maybe native to Japan.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Uh, go go gadget balls is kind of what we're
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: talking about here.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: That's well done. Yeah. So just like in the film
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: we were mentioning earlier, Uh, they're depicted using their scrotums
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: as boat sails, as nets to catch fish or umbrellas.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: It's very go go gadget, go, go gadget godads. Right, Yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: it's really good. It's true.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and this isn't just and it's that's the
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: thing that's so interesting. It's it's i think because of
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: the cultural you know, awareness around this lore, like it
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: would not have been shocking to a Japanese audience, but
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: when I was watching it, like with my kid.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: We were both sort of taken aback because we did not.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Know about this and did not expect there to be
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: expanding Harlem Globetrotter's esque Macgiver balls you.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Know likely Yeah, and this also just for the note here,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: this dates back to the Ede period. In the like
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: in the sixteen hundreds. Oh, people you could find.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Like calligraphic kind of you know, scrolls and things depicting
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: these various parachute sacks.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: And uh and Max our good friend, Max, our brother,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Max's off camera and off mic and I'm having such
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: a great time imagining your facial expression. There, yep, there
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: it is dead.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Go go gadget goads.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. That's good. It's not our best work,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: but we're working live, and so are the Tanuki. So
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: is the government of Japan. So are the raccoons. Despite
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: all the problems caused by the Rascal boom, which is
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the again, how ridiculous is this nineteen seventies a cartoon
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: is the entire reason raccoons are an invasive species in Japan.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Ever since then people have been trying to fight against it,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: trying to save the native animal population. These ancient wooden
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: temples and so on. But if you ask members of
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: the public who are not experts in biology or invasive species,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: they're going to tell you they love Rascal the Raccoon.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: There's a video game that came out in the nineties.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: There have been pop up stores that people have spent
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of money at. It's the merchandising is crazy.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: You can still see plush dolls, cell phones. It's a
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: brand now, Rascal is a brand.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: This would probably be of the same era as like
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: the kind of animes that I grew up watching on
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Nick Junior, like David the Gnome and those fairy tale
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: those Grim's fairy Tale Maybe those are more like early eighties,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: but this is late seventies, so seventy seven, and it's
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: got the same vibe of that era of animember. Remember
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: those ben they were huge, like on Nickelodeon and Nick Junior,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: because I guess they were cheap, they could acquire the rights,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: and they just you know, were dubbed. But I remember
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: some of those Grim fairy Tales ones that are very
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: much in the style of this Rascal cartoon.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Pretty dark stuff.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which I think was appealing to a lot
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: of a lot of kids when you saw a darker cartoon.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like when you go to the Scholastic
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: book Fair, which we're always big fans of, and you
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: saw scary stories to tell in the dark.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Right, So Grim's fairy tale Classics. Oh, yes, I remember that.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I remember that was more or it was a little
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: little later than what I was talking about, But it
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: very much is the same style, and almost wonder.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: It's by animation. Yep, it's like it's a house style.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: There we go, there you go, and here we arrive
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: at the end of our show. We hope you appreciate it.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: There is a parable here. We could argue in that
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: the story of the American raccoon in Japan has a
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: ridiculous origin, but it has real world consequences that continue today.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: So we'd love to hear your thoughts on other ridiculous
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: origin stories of invasive speed or just weird pop culture,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: or let's say, weird fascinating pop culture. In the meantime,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: it's a.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Little bit of a different vibe. But I can't help
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: think of the cobra story.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: The cobra, Oh, the cobra effect, the cobra cobra effect.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just you know, it's just not the same,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: but it's just the knock on consequences remained similar.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. If there's one thing human civilization loves,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: its consequences that they did not foresee, uh we do foresee.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: The close of the show, thank you, as always so
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: much for joining us, fellow ridiculous historians. Thanks to our
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: super producer mister Max Williams, as well as his brother
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Alex Williams, who composed this slap and pop and nope,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: we got to get Alex back on the show. But
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: he's even more nomadic than me. He sure is.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: And speaking of you, Ben, huge thanks to you as always,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: but in this one for your research prowess coming to
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: us from that region of the world. Not to docks
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: you too much, but I know this is close to
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: you and something that is very much on your mind,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: and I was really fun to talk to you about.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Oh Man, same same, big thanks to our favorite invasive
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: species on this show, Jonathan Strickland aka the Quizzer and Nola.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you not to big, not to big
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: up us to ourselves too much, but I think we
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: have on a metal level, we've been doing a great
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: job sliding in one insult for the for the quiztor
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: related to whatever we're talking about per.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Episode, It's sure it's on theme. I do appreciate that.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Ben a huge thanks to Christopherraciotis and needs Jeff Coots here.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: It'spiat Rachel Big Spinach.
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  Speaker 2: her back.
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  Speaker 3: On the show.
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  Speaker 2: She just pinged us again this morning, so I'm super
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  Speaker 2: excited to bring her back and.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about underwater explosions again.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's a true story, folks. We know the world's
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  Speaker 2: Not crediting this person in every episode after having her
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  Speaker 2: on one episode like five years ago, and we just
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  Speaker 2: were that impressed by her.
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  Speaker 3: And it's all coming full circle, y'all.
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