Latest / Investor Exchange / How Versalink Holdings Managed To Stay Cash-Positive Despite A Massive Half-Yearly Loss In 2025
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:08Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today, we're tackling something specific,
- 0:11looking into the half-yearly results for Versalink Holdings Limited, that's a VHL.
- 0:15We're digging into their performance for the six months ending August 31st, 2025.
- 0:20They call it 1HFY2026. Exactly.
- 0:23Our goal today really is to get behind the big, scary headline number.
- 0:26Anyone can read that loss figure.
- 0:28We want to understand the why, what actually drove these results,
- 0:32which parts of the business struggled, what costs blew up, and what does it
- 0:36suggest for VHL going forward.
- 0:37Okay, let's get straight to it then. That headline number. It is pretty startling.
- 0:41The group reported a net loss after tax of roughly RM4.14 million.
- 0:47Malaysian Ringgit, that is? Yeah.
- 0:49RM4.14 million. That's the figure that makes you pause. And you have to compare
- 0:52it, right? Last year, same period, 1HFY 2025, the loss was much smaller,
- 0:57only around $0.68 million.
- 0:59Wow. Okay. So we're talking about a loss that's multiplied several times over,
- 1:03more than 100% increase. Absolutely.
- 1:04And for shareholders, look, the loss per share reflects that directly.
- 1:07It went from just 0.51 cent, half a Malaysian penny, basically up to 3.07 cent, a big jump.
- 1:13That is a huge spike in the loss. But here's the thing that caught my eye.
- 1:17When you look deeper, the actual top line revenue didn't fall off a cliff in the same way.
- 1:22Overall revenue only decreased by about 5.2%. It went from RM 20.61 million
- 1:28down to RM 19.53 million.
- 1:31And that's the crucial disconnect, isn't it? That's the puzzle.
- 1:33A 5% drop in sales normally doesn't lead to such a massive increase in net loss, not by itself. Right.
- 1:40So that tells you immediately this wasn't just about fewer customers buying
- 1:44things. The core problem here, this period, it's internal.
- 1:47It's got to be about costs or margins or maybe both. We need to break it down.
- 1:51Okay, let's do that. Let's unpack the revenue first. Yeah.
- 1:54Where did that 5% drop actually come from? Was it across the board or was one area hit harder?
- 1:59It was definitely localized. And this part's actually quite interesting.
- 2:02If you look at their domestic segment, sales within Malaysia. Yeah.
- 2:05That actually went up. It increased from RM 10.40 million to RM 11.13 million.
- 2:10They say it's because demand for office furniture picked up in Malaysia.
- 2:13Okay, so domestic business is healthy, even growing slightly.
- 2:17That means the export side must have taken a real beating. A real beating is about right.
- 2:22The export segment revenue dropped quite sharply.
- 2:25It went from RM10.21 million down to just RM8.40 million.
- 2:30And do they say where that export pain came from specifically?
- 2:33They do. They pinpoint North America. Sales demand there dropped by about RM2.3 or a million.
- 2:39That's the bulk of the export decline right there. And they're linking that
- 2:42directly to global uncertainty and potentially the tariff situation?
- 2:46Yes, that's the language they use.
- 2:48Global uncertainty, possibly made worse by tariffs. Hmm.
- 2:52It makes you wonder, though, if the Malaysian market is OK for them,
- 2:55is it just global uncertainty hitting North America?
- 2:58Or are there competitiveness issues, too? Maybe the tariffs are just making
- 3:01it really tough to compete there specifically.
- 3:04That's a fair question. It could be a mix. Maybe their product mix isn't quite
- 3:08right for the international market right now or the supply chain costs are hitting them harder there.
- 3:11But they are explicitly calling out those external factors, especially tariffs,
- 3:17as the main drag on their biggest export market.
- 3:19You can't really ignore that statement. True.
- 3:22OK, so export weakness, particularly North America.
- 3:26But that revenue drop alone still doesn't explain the massive loss jump. Let's talk margins.
- 3:31Right, because the gross profit margin also took a significant hit.
- 3:35It fell from 28.0% last year down to 24.5% this half. Ouch.
- 3:41Nearly four percentage points gone. What happened there? The main culprit,
- 3:44according to their report, was a write-off of finished goods.
- 3:47They had to write off about RM0.56 million worth.
- 3:51Half a million ringgit in finished goods written off. What does that typically
- 3:54mean? Stock they couldn't sell.
- 3:56Obsolete. Could be a mix of things, maybe damaged, maybe obsolete,
- 3:59maybe just slow moving stock they realized wasn't going to sell at the expected price.
- 4:04Whatever the reason, taking that RM 0.56 million hit directly reduces your cost
- 4:08of goods sold effectiveness and boom, your gross margin percentage drops.
- 4:12OK, so we've got weaker export sales plus a margin hit from writing off inventory.
- 4:16That explains more of the loss, but.
- 4:19Surely not all of it, that RM4.14 million loss still feels big.
- 4:25It does. And this is where we need to look very closely at the operating expenses,
- 4:29particularly the administrative costs, because there's a real paradox here.
- 4:33Paradox? How so? Well, on one side, they actually showed some really good cost control.
- 4:38Look at marketing and distribution expenses. They managed to cut those by over 20 percent.
- 4:42Saved about RM0.34 million compared to last year.
- 4:46Found savings in sales commissions, logistics, even travel expenses.
- 4:49Seems like good management there. Right. Controlling the controllables. That's positive.
- 4:53But then you flip to administrative expenses and they just exploded.
- 4:57They surged by almost 60 percent.
- 4:58Fifty nine point four percent to be exact. Sixty percent. From what to what?
- 5:02From about RM four point six five million last year up to RM seven point four
- 5:07one million this period.
- 5:09Wow. OK. What on earth causes admin costs to jump by nearly RM three million in six months?
- 5:14That's not extra coffee and paperclips. No, definitely not. And this is the
- 5:17key amplifier we talked about.
- 5:19It's almost entirely down to one very specific, and you could argue, non-operational item.
- 5:24It was a partial refund they had to make, amounting to RM 1.2 million.
- 5:28A refund of RM 1.2 million related to what?
- 5:33It relates back to a sale and lease back deal they did way back in September 2022.
- 5:37They sold some land and buildings to RHB trustees Burhide and then leased them
- 5:42back. Okay, I think I follow.
- 5:43Sell an asset, get cash, but agree to rent it back. Exactly.
- 5:47But apparently there were certain conditions attached to that original 2022
- 5:50agreement, and VHL didn't meet some of those conditions by the deadline,
- 5:54which looks like it was August 2025.
- 5:56Ah, I see. So because they didn't meet the conditions from the Earl deal.
- 5:59They were contractually obligated to refund RM 1.2 million of the proceeds they
- 6:03originally received, and that refund hit their books in this reporting period,
- 6:07showing up under administrative expenses. Man, that is painful.
- 6:11A big hit from a past transaction completely skewing the current operating picture.
- 6:16It makes those marketing savings look tiny in comparison.
- 6:19It does. It completely overshadows the operational improvements they made elsewhere.
- 6:24It's like a big accounting cleanup charge landed right in the middle of their results.
- 6:27Got it. So that explains the huge admin spike. Were there any other significant
- 6:32non-operational things moving the needle, other income or losses?
- 6:36Yeah, a couple of things to note there.
- 6:38Other income was down quite a bit from about RM 0.81 million last year to only
- 6:44RM 0.29 million this period.
- 6:46That was mainly because they didn't have some writebacks this year that they
- 6:49benefited from last year. Things like writing back provisions for slow moving stock or royalties.
- 6:54Those were one offs last year. OK, so less help from other income.
- 6:57But on the flip side, they did better on other losses, specifically foreign exchange.
- 7:02FX losses were lower this period, about RM 0.55 million compared to RM 0.97 million last year.
- 7:09So an improvement of about RM 0.42 million there.
- 7:12And they attribute that mainly to the Malaysian ringgit strengthening against
- 7:15the U.S. dollar and the Singapore dollar during the period.
- 7:18Right. A stronger ringgit means imported costs might be lower,
- 7:21but it also makes exports priced in ringgit more expensive for foreign buyers.
- 7:25But here it helped reduce FX losses on maybe their dollar or Sing dollar liabilities
- 7:30or transactions. Precisely. It's a double-edged sword.
- 7:33But in this specific line item, other losses, it provided a bit of relief compared to last year.
- 7:38Okay, so pulling this together. A nasty RM1.2 million refund hit.
- 7:43A significant inventory write-off, weaker exports.
- 7:47But offset slightly by better FX results and some decent cost control on the marketing side.
- 7:52Now, how did all this turmoil affect their actual cash? Because sometimes the
- 7:56P&L loss doesn't tell the whole story about liquidity.
- 7:59And that's absolutely the case here. This is where the story gets paradoxical
- 8:02again, despite that big RM4.14 million net loss on paper.
- 8:07Their cash flow from operating activities actually swung positive,
- 8:11quite significantly, in fact.
- 8:13Really? How much? They generated about RM1.45 million in cash from operations in these six months.
- 8:19Compare that to the same period last year where they actually used nearly RM1.8
- 8:23million cash for operations. Wow, that's a huge turnaround.
- 8:27Over RM3 million swing from cash burn to cash generation and operations.
- 8:32Where did that come from, especially with the loss?
- 8:35It mainly came from managing working capital really effectively.
- 8:38Networking capital changes actually provided about RM4.77 million in cash inflow
- 8:43during the period. Okay, working capital inflow, what drove that?
- 8:46Selling off inventory, collecting decks faster. Both, essentially.
- 8:50Inventories decreased, contributing about RM1.47 million to cash.
- 8:54That's partly linked to the write-off
- 8:56we discussed, but also likely better inventory management overall.
- 8:59And trade and other receivables also decreased significantly,
- 9:02providing almost RM1.96 million in cash. Collecting money owed to them.
- 9:07Yes, and interestingly, that receivables figure includes the impact of writing
- 9:11off a deposit of RM1.0 million that they had previously paid out.
- 9:15So clearing that off the books also helped the cash flow from operations calculation.
- 9:19So they cleaned up the balance sheet a bit, wrote off bad inventory,
- 9:23wrote off a bad deposit, and collected cash more effectively.
- 9:26That seems to be the story. And the result is a pretty healthy cash balance at the end of the period.
- 9:30They finished with cash and cash equivalents of approximately RM 17.26 million.
- 9:36RM 17 million in cash. Okay, that's a solid cushion.
- 9:39But, hang on, I remember seeing something else in the notes.
- 9:42Didn't the executive director and CEO, Mr. Jay Shimming, personally loan the
- 9:46company money during this period? Ah, yes.
- 9:49Good catch. He did. He extended a loan totaling S-340,000 dollars that Singapore
- 9:54dollars to the company. OK, S-340,000 dollars.
- 9:57Why would the CEO need to personally inject cash even as a loan if the company
- 10:02is sitting on over RM17 million?
- 10:05Seems a bit strange, doesn't it? It does raise a question. On the surface,
- 10:09RM17 million seems ample.
- 10:12But cash isn't always completely fungible. You know, some of that cash might
- 10:16be tie up, perhaps restricted, maybe held overseas and not easily accessible
- 10:20for immediate ringgit working capital needs.
- 10:22Or maybe they needed Singapore dollars specifically for certain payments or transactions.
- 10:28Ah, OK. So the loan might have been for a very specific, perhaps urgent need,
- 10:35maybe in a specific currency, that the main cash pile couldn't easily meet at that moment.
- 10:40That's a plausible explanation. The loan terms were 5% interest over one year,
- 10:45which seems fairly standard for related party lending.
- 10:48It certainly shows the CEO's commitment and willingness to backstop the company.
- 10:52But yes, it does add a little nuance to that headline cash figure.
- 10:55Maybe liquidity isn't quite as straightforward as just looking at the total balance.
- 10:58Interesting point. OK, so let's look ahead. Given this mixed bag,
- 11:01the big one-off hits, the underlying cash generation, the CEO loan,
- 11:04what's VHL saying about the future?
- 11:06What's the outlook for the next, say, 12 months? Well, they're certainly not
- 11:10painting a rosy picture of the external environment.
- 11:13The company statement emphasizes that the global economy is expected to stay
- 11:17uncertain and volatile.
- 11:19Standard corporate language, maybe, but what specifically are they worried about?
- 11:23They call it a few things explicitly.
- 11:25Prolonged geopolitical conflicts. They mention the Middle East and Russia-Ukraine.
- 11:30Changing tariff rates, which we already saw impacted their North America sales.
- 11:34And currency fluctuations. Right, the usual suspects for an export-oriented
- 11:39company. Any very specific near-term risks they highlighted.
- 11:42Yes, two very concrete ones. First, the disruption in the Red Sea.
- 11:46They state that this is causing spikes in ocean freight and logistics costs,
- 11:50which directly impacts their bottom line as a manufacturer shipping goods globally.
- 11:55Yeah, that's hitting a lot of companies right now. What's the second one?
- 11:58The strengthening Malaysian ringgit against the U.S. dollar.
- 12:00While it helped their FX loss line slightly this period, they see it as a headwind
- 12:05going forward because it makes their products more expensive for U.S.
- 12:08Buyers, potentially hurting that already weak North American demand even further.
- 12:12Okay, so significant macro headwinds and specific logistical cost pressures.
- 12:18What's their plan to navigate this? What are the mitigation strategies?
- 12:22It sounds like a multi-pronged approach, focused on internal control and external growth.
- 12:27Internally, they're going to keep focusing on cost control and enhancing production
- 12:32efficiency, trying to squeeze more margin out of what they can control.
- 12:35Makes sense. And externally.
- 12:37This seems key. They state they will be exploring new markets and developing new products.
- 12:43Actively looking for new business opportunities to, and this is crucial,
- 12:47diversify their revenue streams.
- 12:49Diversify away from the heavy reliance on markets like North America that are
- 12:53proving volatile. That appears to be the strategy.
- 12:56Find new customers in new places, maybe with new types of furniture or products,
- 12:59reduce the concentration risk.
- 13:01And finally, they also mentioned they plan to explore fundraising opportunities
- 13:04to strengthen their cash position further, including talks with potential investors.
- 13:09Interesting. So potentially bringing in more capital, maybe equity to support
- 13:13this diversification push or just bolster the balance sheet against uncertainty?
- 13:16Could be either or both. It suggests they recognize the challenges ahead and
- 13:21are looking at all options to ensure they have the resources to weather the
- 13:24storm and execute the strategy.
- 13:26Okay, so let's try and synthesize this. We have a company that took a really
- 13:30big, specific hit from that RM 1.2 million refund and the inventory write-off
- 13:36that completely masked some genuine successes,
- 13:39like cutting marketing costs and improving FX loss management.
- 13:42And perhaps most importantly, turning around their operating cash flow quite dramatically.
- 13:47Exactly. The underlying operational health, particularly on the cash side,
- 13:51looks much better than the headline net loss suggests.
- 13:54But those exceptional items, combined with the very real pressure on their export
- 13:58markets, created a perfect storm for the P&L this half. Which leads us to the outlook.
- 14:03They know the risks, geopolitics, logistics, currency, and the plan is control
- 14:09costs tightly, but more strategically find new markets and products.
- 14:13That diversification piece feels absolutely critical, doesn't it?
- 14:16Given the specific risks they've called out impacting their traditional export routes and markets.
- 14:21It really does. Which brings us to a final thought for you, the listener,
- 14:24to chew on as you digest these results. Yeah, think about this.
- 14:28VHL is facing clear external pressures, especially in exports.
- 14:33They've outlined two main paths forward, tighter internal cost control,
- 14:37and external diversification into new markets products.
- 14:41So the key question for the next year might be, which of these will be more
- 14:45critical for stabilizing the bottom line?
- 14:48Can they cut costs deep enough to offset the external headwinds?
- 14:52Or is successfully finding and penetrating those new revenue streams the only
- 14:56real path back to sustainable profitability?
- 14:59One is about defense, the other about offense. Which one do they need more right now?
- 15:03That's a great question. Finding new markets is hard, but may be essential here.
- 15:07Something to watch closely in their future announcements.
- 15:09Thank you for walking us through that complex set of results.
- 15:12And thank you all for joining us on The Deep Dive. We'll catch you next time.
- 15:18.